June 5, 2025 • 28 mins
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Your hosts, Jim Riley and Rod Kuntz, are seasoned entrepreneurs and mentors who’ve walked the walk in coaching, employee retention, retail, wholesale, fundraising, and creating thriving workplace cultures. Jim and Rod bring a refreshingly authentic style to every conversation, using their own successes and failures to teach strategies that work. This podcast is your go-to resource for growth, leadership, and real-world insights. They’ll show you how to optimize operations, embrace failure, and disrupt your industry, all while keeping success grounded in humility and paying it forward. Looking for strategies, connection, and a little inspiration? You’ve found your home. Let’s dream big, act boldly, and thrive together.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Answers Yes Podcast, where we interview some
of the most interesting people that have said yes to
opportunities in their life. We hope that through these stories
you can learn to create your own destiny by saying yes.
Along the way, join us as we explored the new series,
governing topics such as passion, integrity, and art work. I'm
your host, Jim Riley, and I hope you enjoyed these
(00:32):
interviews as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I believe that everyone has an important message work here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello and welcome to the Young Entrepreneur Syndicate podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Do you Riley here? With Rode Coons.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hey buddy, Hey, nice to see you. Jim.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's been a minute, it has.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It's funny when you miss just a week, you know,
it's like, wow, it seems like there was a long
stretch in there. Seems longer than a week, seems like
a month.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, So all apologize to anybody that missed last week.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sorry. Hey, I got a few things going on.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm selling a house, buying a house, little vacation, making
some big moves. We talk about making big moves, so
I need to lead by example is what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Absolutely, absolutely yeah, and it's like our other partner, Rachel says.
She said, you know, entrepreneurs need to be the early adopters.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Not only lead by example, but we need to be
the ones out there on the cutting edge, you know,
blazing the trail.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, what's cool is, you know, my real estate life
has opened up all kinds of new doors for me.
And as you know we talked offline, I purchased a
it would be considered a luxury town home down in
Saint George in a place called Desert Color where they've
got like a lagoon and all this stuff. But there's
(01:48):
a some complexes like the one that we bought is
designed not only for you to have, you know, as
a home part time, but also as a VRBO or
you know, single night's day resident. And so we're looking
at it as a place to get away in the
winter and enjoy some different weather. Montana gets cold, as
we've talked about it does, but also as an investment,
(02:12):
you know, taking the equity that we built out of
our property and putting it into two separate properties, this
being one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And so it was super cool.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I got a call from the management company today that
helps run all the overnight state properties down there in
their companies called red.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Rock, and they just want you to succeed.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like literally, hey, if I make money, they make money, right,
utilizing an asset that we're buying. And it's just really
exciting for us because not only will we have a
great Snowbird location, but we're going to be making money
and that just speaks to my soul as an entrepreneur,
you know, and especially as a new adventure for my kids.
(02:55):
So I'm really excited about what's happening.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, and the symbiotic relationship that these capitalistic partnerships create,
you know, you help them, they help you. It's just
we work together as a community, a business community. Then
you develop personal relationships within those communities and it just
goes on from there. So it's not to you know,
we've always said business is personal.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, talk about being symbiotics, right, So for those that
don't really know, I'm so, I'm selling my primary residence
that I live in today, I've amassed some equity here
worth investing into other properties. So we're buying a property
down in Saint George, and then we'll be buying some
land here in Montana and building something much smaller, more palatable,
(03:41):
that we can come and go frequently from and go
on trips.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Right, rud, what is so cool?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
As we're packing up our personal residents, you know, and
when I say we, I mean my wife and I
bet our kids, my nine year old and my eleven
year old daughters, right, And they're understanding exactly what we're
doing from a business perspective, you know what they're doing,
which is so cool because they're homescorers, they get it.
They are putting aside boxes of games and items that
(04:10):
they feel an overnight renter, a VRBO guest would enjoy playing.
And so they're going, hey, let's bring these games down
instead of throwing away or giving them way, let's take
these down to the town home. Because if we have guests,
they're gonna want to play with these games or use
these you know.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Pool toys or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
They're already in the business mindset of customer service and
providing something for the guests.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That is awesome, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So cool, so cool?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Are you going to VRBO your property in Kalispell too?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I primarily ideally that is kind of the notion. And
then what you do is and there's a there's a
business model to this. My good friend Brett Kelly taught
me a lot about this and he's he's doing it.
I'm not sure if we're going to go all in,
but yes, you would buy a property in Kellispell that
is user friendly that you'd VRBO and then you do.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Third, you know, find a third maybe Florida beach house. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I'm taking it one step at a time, letting
the dust settle on a deal and then moving on
to the next bottom lines were excited, and there's a
business component to that that you know, I'll share along
the way. And it's just cool to watch my kids.
So anyway, I got some funny life story to tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
This is let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah it's not really a story, but this is for
the pet owners, all right. I get this podcast loaded up,
you know, and the screens up, and I said, gotta
go open a door.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, I'm embarrassed to say, and I'm sure you have
these moments because you have a pet and all you
pet owners, we know who's in charge.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Of the house.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's the pets.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's not the adults, it's not the kids, it's the pets.
And so I know I need some quiet in my
office here. I have a cat, and I'm not a
cat person, but we've had this cat for six years
and I love this cat. Since amazing cat. He's very,
very vocal. And so I get this all loaded up
and I hear him downstairs meowing at the top of
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his lungs.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, damn it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I got to get off this podcast, take a break
from you, and go find him and let him out.
He wants to go outside now, granted he's already been
in and out probably three times this morning, and let
us know. And to make matters worse, he also only
drinks fresh water from the faucet, so he will tell
you when he wants to go to the faucet that
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you must turn on and allow him to drink fresh water.
And then when he's done, he'll just leave in the
faucets running forever till you remember. That's the life that
I live with animals. Okay, well, please please.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Tell me how your animal runs your life. Right.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Well, first, I will say, my gosh, that's a great story.
And I want to think there's probably an opera business
opportunity here for a cat trainer to break your cat
of that habit. Or find a different solution than you know,
teach that cat how to turn the water on animal.
I don't know so anyway, So being a pet owner,
(07:15):
I go back to my ranching days, right, working on ranches,
and the animals are the priority, not you, Right, you
want to do something, you want to take the morning off. No,
the animals get fed before the people get fed. You
take care of your livestock. And the thing with pets
(07:36):
is they are part of the family. Number one, Like
you said that cat and my guess, Jim, is because
you're not a cat person. My guess is that cat
favors you over everyone else in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He does.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's that's how it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So there's there's a reason we have pets because they
teach us things. You know that they're not just decoration.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know, they become part of the family, but they're there.
They're teachers, they're some of the best teachers. But they're
dependent on us. And so there's where our first lesson
is someone else is dependent on you. So that means
you have to be the responsible one. You have to
be the boss, because if you fail to break the
(08:22):
ice in the winter time for your cows. They could die. Yeah, literally,
and so there goes your livelihood. But you're you're it
costs a life. And we just put Speaking of pets,
we had, uh, our our pound dog are one we've
had now think for eight or nine years. We do
a lot of used used animals, right, and this this
(08:46):
dog we had at DNA test and it's got fourteen
different breeds in it. I mean we're not just talking
the mutt. We're talking this dog's parents were Hussies and grandparents.
I mean they they were out there and all over
the globe when you look at them where these animals
came from. So here we've got this mutt and all
of a sudden she stops eating and then she starts
(09:10):
having bloody stools, and it's like, okay, something's wrong, and
you give it a couple of days, try different foods,
all that kind of thing. Well ends up going to
the vet and the dog has pancreatitis and they have
to treat right and bringing her back to the vet
three days in a row because they don't have overnight stays,
(09:31):
et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, our little dog that is
just part of the family. A mut was an eight
hundred dollars Vet Bill, and you don't bat an eye,
just like you wouldn't with your kid if you took
your kid to go repair a broken bone or something.
You know, it's like, holy smokes.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And then I tell the dog I'm smiling at her
and rough in her fur and saying, hey, see, we
love you this much. You know, you're just a mutt,
but you're worth every penny. You know, You're a valuable
You're a valuable asset to this family. And so pets
are our family, and they're dependent, and they're teachers and
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probably some of the best.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Even cats.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I love cats, but most most of my family members
are allergic, so you can't have them.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I watch a lot of cat videos.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It come, is it mine? Anytime?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, it's fun to look at our lives and reflect
on our influences throughout the day. And by the way,
that is an everyday occurrence with my cat, so it's
not just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's not just today.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Anyways, I want to talk about here's our topic for
the day. It's a common theme with us, we talk
about it often. But I want to talk about this
subject in a different light, and that is the importance
of leadership, the importance of leadership. And so we're heading
off next week into Montana Camp. If you're not familiar,
(11:02):
go to Montanacamp dot org. And it's a three day conference.
Originally it started as a real estate conference years ago,
and it says converted into are morphed into more of
an entrepreneur conference, and I love the leadership behind it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Justin Metcha.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, he talks about agents are actually entrepreneurs, you know,
because most of them are running their own businesses, and
so it's more important for him to put together conference
for entrepreneurs instead of just agents. Right, And so now
we've got this morphine of a wonderful event next week.
Come out tickets are I guess what happened, right, I
don't know if you knew this or not. One of
(11:40):
the sponsors donated several I don't know thousand dollars to
bring down the ticket price to cover the overage from
fifty nine dollars to what it was.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So anyways, that's awesome because I bought my ticket when it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Was more right three times more? Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So anyways, that's next week, and you know, the topics
are faith, family, fitness, and finance but all that converges
into different discussions on leadership, and in my talk that
I'll be giving, we'll be on leadership as well as
covering all four of those topics in brief. But we
(12:22):
have a meeting this week at our office in my
real estate world and the topic was leadership. And although
we've covered that many times there as well, just like
we do here, I think it's nice to remind people.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That we're all leaders.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
If you're putting one foot in front of the other,
you are a leader. And I know I clearly said
this on another show. Is any one of us can
look over our shoulder and see somebody that is following
our lead, whether that's your kids, your spouse, your business colleagues,
your partners, the football team, whatever, your dog, your cat.
(13:03):
You know, we all play a leadership role at one
time or another. And so what I want to emphasize
about this is not only.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Are you a leader. If you are listening, you are
a leader.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you don't believe that, please look over your
shoulder and look around and see the people that you've
led at some point in your life, any point in
your life, and show yourself that you are a lead
a leader and capable of leading, and once you identify that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You're able to do so much more.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But the reason why I want to talk about this today,
Rod is this is a play on some of the
subject matter we covered on Tuesday at or office meeting.
We had a tragedy here in Flathead Valley on Mother's
Day and it was a It was a murder suicide.
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Not an easy subject matter, right, It's even hard to
say that on an educational business pide. But I think
we have to live in realities too, and the realities
are bad things happen around us.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And the question that I want.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
To pose to everybody, if we're leaders, and I've just
identified and proved that we're all leaders.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
If we're leaders, what.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Can we do as leaders to change the dynamics in
our surrounding you know, communities. What can we do to
make our communities, our neighborhoods, our homes, our schools or
places of business better so that we can move beyond,
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you know, some of the tragedies that we see in
the news, so that we can be encouragers for people
that there is hope out there, that there that there's
a better alternative to murder suicide, Right, and so I
really want to challenge people to look around them and
get out of their comfort zone and maybe just a
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little bit beyond business to say, how can I lead
with my whole heart and make my community better?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right? And I just I know that we can do
better as a society.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And you know, so I'm hyper focused on my community
right now, and right I'm sure you're the same.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We've got a community that you've lived in for a
very long time, and we're both very passionate about it,
and we both play volunteer roles, you know, in different
government positions, you know, previously and current, and so you know,
what I'm asking people to do is look around their
immediate area and where they can lead and make a difference.
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And I want to, you know, maybe touch on that
for a minute, Rod, but I want to give an
example on how you can lead, which is simple and
you may not even know the role that you're playing
as a leader. So if you want to comment briefly
on that, I'll expand a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, I'll jump in. And the tragedy is tragic, There's
no question it's and I believe what makes it tragic
is that I think it was avoidable. I don't know
these people personally, but I'm going to talk about leadership
real quick, because leadership ultimately is about relationship.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, if you're going to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Lead people, you need to understand them and be able
to empathize with them.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And I believe that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You know, I don't know these people that this murder suicide,
you know, the father. I looked it up online. I
looked at his social media posts because I wanted to
understand what could cause somebody, anybody, to do such a
horrid thing. And there are a couple of things that
jumped out at me. Number one, he was a businessman, right,
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He had his own business with a partner, it looks like,
and so what was going on with the business? You know,
and there's never an excuse for bad behavior, But was
there a trigger there that other people might have known about?
You know, we know that the economy is difficult for
younger families, I think in this area, So what resources
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could have been available to that person. The second thing
I noticed in that post was there was a comment
in one of his posts about he understood back pain.
He had some sort of an injury, and he said,
now I get it. Now I understand how people can
be in such chronic pain, and that leads down a hole.
And again, I don't know the facts of the case,
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but I do know in general in our society that
a lot of people go to pain medication or even
over the counter cannabis medication to self medicate, which is
mind altering. And people who do things like kill their
own families and then themselves are not in the right mind.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They're not. So I believe there's a spiritual component to this.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And I won't even go into what I believe is
really going on there on this show, but I will
say that if you're in business with someone, or you
relate to those people, or they are servicing you as
a client, you need to develop relationship. It can't just
be transactional. We can't just be trading dollars for services.
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You need to build relationship relationships so people feel safe
enough to share with you. Man, I'm in pain today,
I can't get this under control, or I've got a
problem in my life, or I'm feeling desperate. I don't
feel like I have any hope or options. People need
to feel safe enough and comfortable enough, and so leadership
is ultimately I think first about relationship. If you can't
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empathize with people, you're never going to be able to
lead them, at least lead them properly.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
And so there's a whole lot going on with all that.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Believe me, it's been a topic of conversation at my
dinner table and it's been hard, and it is leadership
and I think are as communities we can do better.
And boy, don't even get me started on that, because
I wrote a whole report for the mayor at one
point in time and took a lot of heat because
I called people out on not doing what they should
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be doing, and that includes the churches, and that message
is even more important.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Today as this tragedy has exposed.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So, yeah, we all have a part to play, but
corporate organizations as a body also have a part to play,
and that includes government. So I don't know that that's
kind of off on a tangent, but definitely related.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, and I you know, again, it's a tough subject
matter to have on an entrepreneur show, but I think
to your point, as leaders, we need to look around
and fill a role when it's needed because circumstances can
be of if we're willing and able to lead and
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help others. And at the end of the day, that's
really what it's all about, right, don't don't We aren't
we in business to provide for our families and for
ourselves and to live a happier, better life which also
involves happy community. And you know that is it's required
of us to reach beyond our selfishness and help others.
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And so as a leader, if you can help identify
and and do things that will make a difference.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's what this call is about.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's that that's what this discussion is about, is that
we're called to do more. So I don't think he'll mind,
And so I'm going to give a little bit of
a live example as I was with Justin last night,
who hosted that meeting on Tuesday, and he stepped up
to talk about leadership in our company meeting, and you know,
it was it was a good discussion on proof of
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how we're all leaders and that we're called to lead, right,
and he was very emotional about the events. Okay, Justin
has young kids. He did not know the people involved,
He has young kids, so the story resonated with him
and in his mind it was very tragic. Of course,
in all of our minds. It was very tragic.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Utilizing that as an as an understanding to emphasize the
importance of leadership and business. But in discussion with Justin
last night, he says, I just don't know what I
can do. And I said, I gotta, I gotta stop
you right there. Why, I said, because you're already doing
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And so this is part two of my requests is
that sometimes there's more that we can do, and that
and I really would like people to look around and
and evaluate what they are doing. Sometimes we are doing
something and it's become either second nature or it's a
natural activity to your personality and the way that you
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do things that you don't really the impact that you're making.
And this was the case with Justin, is that he
was willing to host a company meeting and shift the
entire topics of discussion backwards and forwards to emphasize the
importance of leadership and encourage people to be stronger while
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expressing emotion almost in a tearful.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Way, right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So it had a lot of impact on several occasions
during the one hour meeting. He was willing to do
that in a corporate setting. This meeting have about thirty people.
And when he wrapped up, the first thing I did,
Rod is I walked out the door and I called
my pastor and I said, Hey, there's more people hurting
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in this valley. We called Flahadd County, by the way,
the valley if you're not from this area. I said,
there's more people hurting in this valley. We need to
do something. Can we add a church service Monday night?
The next Monday Night, which is in a few days,
can we add a church service and provide something for
the community. And he says absolutely, Jim, let me start
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making some calls, right. So the point of saying that
is that Justin did not realize that his act of
leadership in his corporate meeting had already grown beyond those
four walls. The second somebody me walked out the door, right,
and I had to remind him of that. I said, Justin,
you are doing exactly what a leader would do. You're emotional,
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you're passionate. You're willing to turn your meeting upside down
to make an important point at an important time in
our community without fail. Okay, And so when you think
about that example in your own business life and in
your own entrepreneurial journey. How can you do that exact
thing within your own business? And God help us if
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you if you have to wait for something like that
to happen, to have you shift gears, because I hope
nothing like that ever happens. Again, we know it probably will.
But but can you look at your business and lead
with an example like Justin has in his business and
know that you will be making a difference the second
somebody walks out of your meeting, are your office or
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when they get off the zoom call, are the cell
call in the car, whatever it looks like. No, that
you're leading can make a tangible difference. And when I
said to Justin, I said, you only know my example
because we're together tonight, post meeting and post making the call.
I said, there was twenty nine other people in that room.
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You want to tell me that nobody else did anything
when they walked out, I said, I highly doubt it.
So keep doing exactly what you're doing, stand tall and
being the leader that you are, and continue to lead
people based on what's important and what's happening in the
community around you for the betterment knowledge of the community.
I'll see your business and the people that work for
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you and all the other stuff that flows from that.
And I just thought, what a beautiful example of how
community looks and feels.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So Justin, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know how often you listen to the show,
and I hope you didn't mind that I kind of
reiterated what happened this week in my life. But what
a beautiful example of how to be a leader.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well what I like about that, too, Jim, is it
illustrates Justin's example. Illustrates that we have to be willing
as leaders to be vulnerable. You know, being authentic means
that we show our whole selves and our whole selves.
I don't know anybody out there who doesn't feel vulnerable
at some point in time about something. You know, But
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and and with Justin, I get it because my vulnerability
is my family. You want to hurt me, That's that's
how you get to me, right, So the devil knows
that too, So that make no mistake. But vulnerability and
then just being authentic and being willing to communicate that,
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and that's where action comes from. That's that drop in
the water that you know. You don't even know where
those ripples go out, how far they go out can
cause a lot of erosion at the end of the day.
So absolutely, it's it's a good thing. It's a great example,
a great example. So taking tragedy and learning from it
and making making something good happen.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, well, creating action.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So listen, I want to wrap up on that, right,
I don't I don't want to go too far into
other topics because I want this to resonate. We have
a little fun with the animal discussion in the beginning there,
but I think the important thing is is as entrepreneurs
are entrepreneurs when we look at soft skills, leadership is
definitely one of those soft skills that you learn and
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that you have to practice. And then when you can
take an opportunity like what we're talking about today and
turn that into good for your community and your business
and the people around you, that's that's what makes the
difference between top leaders and people are just running a business.
And I know you and me, we're not here just
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to help people run a business. We want people to
be the top of their game, run their ship the
best of their ability, utilizing every soft skill that we
can teach them. And so I'm gonna let it resonate
on that. Do you have any last thoughts?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Just a reminder that business is hard and you do
it by yourself, but you can't do it alone, and
that's why you need to tap into podcasts like this.
You need to go to events like Montana Camp because
it is hard. We know it's hard, and you need
help and you need tools, and you need camaraderie, you
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need community. So don't go it alone because you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
We all, Hey, I have two coaches. I have a
business coach. I have a fitness coach. I've been in
the coaching business for eight years now and I've been
a leader for forty years. So we cannot go it alone.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And Rod, I have you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We lean on each other and so we have put
systems in place, and I'd encourage anybody that's listening to
put a system in place. By the way, we'd love
to have you at the Young Entrepreneur Syndicate. Go online.
It's ninety nine dollars a month. We meet every every week,
usually Tuesdays, at six pm Montana time, for an hour.
We cover soft skills and open discussion for anybody in
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the group. So we'd love to have you. Rod good
to see you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Good to see you again too, Jim.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I will see you at Montana Camp.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I am so looking forward to it. It's going to
be great, right on, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Thanks for listening to show the show
Welcome to the Answers Yes Podcast, where we interview some
of the most interesting people that have said yes to
opportunities in their life. We hope that through these stories
you can learn to create your own destiny by saying yes.
Along the way, join us as we explored the new series,
governing topics such as passion, integrity, and art work. I'm
your host, Jim Riley, and I hope you enjoyed these
(00:32):
interviews as much as I do.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I believe that everyone has an important message work here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello and welcome to the Young Entrepreneur Syndicate podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Do you Riley here? With Rode Coons.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hey buddy, Hey, nice to see you. Jim.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's been a minute, it has.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It's funny when you miss just a week, you know,
it's like, wow, it seems like there was a long
stretch in there. Seems longer than a week, seems like
a month.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, So all apologize to anybody that missed last week.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sorry. Hey, I got a few things going on.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm selling a house, buying a house, little vacation, making
some big moves. We talk about making big moves, so
I need to lead by example is what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Absolutely, absolutely yeah, and it's like our other partner, Rachel says.
She said, you know, entrepreneurs need to be the early adopters.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Not only lead by example, but we need to be
the ones out there on the cutting edge, you know,
blazing the trail.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, what's cool is, you know, my real estate life
has opened up all kinds of new doors for me.
And as you know we talked offline, I purchased a
it would be considered a luxury town home down in
Saint George in a place called Desert Color where they've
got like a lagoon and all this stuff. But there's
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a some complexes like the one that we bought is
designed not only for you to have, you know, as
a home part time, but also as a VRBO or
you know, single night's day resident. And so we're looking
at it as a place to get away in the
winter and enjoy some different weather. Montana gets cold, as
we've talked about it does, but also as an investment,
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you know, taking the equity that we built out of
our property and putting it into two separate properties, this
being one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And so it was super cool.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I got a call from the management company today that
helps run all the overnight state properties down there in
their companies called red.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Rock, and they just want you to succeed.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like literally, hey, if I make money, they make money, right,
utilizing an asset that we're buying. And it's just really
exciting for us because not only will we have a
great Snowbird location, but we're going to be making money
and that just speaks to my soul as an entrepreneur,
you know, and especially as a new adventure for my kids.
(02:55):
So I'm really excited about what's happening.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, and the symbiotic relationship that these capitalistic partnerships create,
you know, you help them, they help you. It's just
we work together as a community, a business community. Then
you develop personal relationships within those communities and it just
goes on from there. So it's not to you know,
we've always said business is personal.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, talk about being symbiotics, right, So for those that
don't really know, I'm so, I'm selling my primary residence
that I live in today, I've amassed some equity here
worth investing into other properties. So we're buying a property
down in Saint George, and then we'll be buying some
land here in Montana and building something much smaller, more palatable,
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that we can come and go frequently from and go
on trips.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Right, rud, what is so cool?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
As we're packing up our personal residents, you know, and
when I say we, I mean my wife and I
bet our kids, my nine year old and my eleven
year old daughters, right, And they're understanding exactly what we're
doing from a business perspective, you know what they're doing,
which is so cool because they're homescorers, they get it.
They are putting aside boxes of games and items that
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they feel an overnight renter, a VRBO guest would enjoy playing.
And so they're going, hey, let's bring these games down
instead of throwing away or giving them way, let's take
these down to the town home. Because if we have guests,
they're gonna want to play with these games or use
these you know.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Pool toys or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
They're already in the business mindset of customer service and
providing something for the guests.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
That is awesome, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So cool, so cool?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Are you going to VRBO your property in Kalispell too?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I primarily ideally that is kind of the notion. And
then what you do is and there's a there's a
business model to this. My good friend Brett Kelly taught
me a lot about this and he's he's doing it.
I'm not sure if we're going to go all in,
but yes, you would buy a property in Kellispell that
is user friendly that you'd VRBO and then you do.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Third, you know, find a third maybe Florida beach house. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I'm taking it one step at a time, letting
the dust settle on a deal and then moving on
to the next bottom lines were excited, and there's a
business component to that that you know, I'll share along
the way. And it's just cool to watch my kids.
So anyway, I got some funny life story to tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
This is let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah it's not really a story, but this is for
the pet owners, all right. I get this podcast loaded up,
you know, and the screens up, and I said, gotta
go open a door.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, I'm embarrassed to say, and I'm sure you have
these moments because you have a pet and all you
pet owners, we know who's in charge.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Of the house.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's the pets.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's not the adults, it's not the kids, it's the pets.
And so I know I need some quiet in my
office here. I have a cat, and I'm not a
cat person, but we've had this cat for six years
and I love this cat. Since amazing cat. He's very,
very vocal. And so I get this all loaded up
and I hear him downstairs meowing at the top of
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his lungs.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, damn it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I got to get off this podcast, take a break
from you, and go find him and let him out.
He wants to go outside now, granted he's already been
in and out probably three times this morning, and let
us know. And to make matters worse, he also only
drinks fresh water from the faucet, so he will tell
you when he wants to go to the faucet that
(06:35):
you must turn on and allow him to drink fresh water.
And then when he's done, he'll just leave in the
faucets running forever till you remember. That's the life that
I live with animals. Okay, well, please please.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Tell me how your animal runs your life. Right.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Well, first, I will say, my gosh, that's a great story.
And I want to think there's probably an opera business
opportunity here for a cat trainer to break your cat
of that habit. Or find a different solution than you know,
teach that cat how to turn the water on animal.
I don't know so anyway, So being a pet owner,
(07:15):
I go back to my ranching days, right, working on ranches,
and the animals are the priority, not you, Right, you
want to do something, you want to take the morning off. No,
the animals get fed before the people get fed. You
take care of your livestock. And the thing with pets
(07:36):
is they are part of the family. Number one, Like
you said that cat and my guess, Jim, is because
you're not a cat person. My guess is that cat
favors you over everyone else in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He does.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's that's how it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So there's there's a reason we have pets because they
teach us things. You know that they're not just decoration.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know, they become part of the family, but they're there.
They're teachers, they're some of the best teachers. But they're
dependent on us. And so there's where our first lesson
is someone else is dependent on you. So that means
you have to be the responsible one. You have to
be the boss, because if you fail to break the
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ice in the winter time for your cows. They could die. Yeah, literally,
and so there goes your livelihood. But you're you're it
costs a life. And we just put Speaking of pets,
we had, uh, our our pound dog are one we've
had now think for eight or nine years. We do
a lot of used used animals, right, and this this
(08:46):
dog we had at DNA test and it's got fourteen
different breeds in it. I mean we're not just talking
the mutt. We're talking this dog's parents were Hussies and grandparents.
I mean they they were out there and all over
the globe when you look at them where these animals
came from. So here we've got this mutt and all
of a sudden she stops eating and then she starts
(09:10):
having bloody stools, and it's like, okay, something's wrong, and
you give it a couple of days, try different foods,
all that kind of thing. Well ends up going to
the vet and the dog has pancreatitis and they have
to treat right and bringing her back to the vet
three days in a row because they don't have overnight stays,
(09:31):
et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, our little dog that is
just part of the family. A mut was an eight
hundred dollars Vet Bill, and you don't bat an eye,
just like you wouldn't with your kid if you took
your kid to go repair a broken bone or something.
You know, it's like, holy smokes.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And then I tell the dog I'm smiling at her
and rough in her fur and saying, hey, see, we
love you this much. You know, you're just a mutt,
but you're worth every penny. You know, You're a valuable
You're a valuable asset to this family. And so pets
are our family, and they're dependent, and they're teachers and
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probably some of the best.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Even cats.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I love cats, but most most of my family members
are allergic, so you can't have them.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I watch a lot of cat videos.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It come, is it mine? Anytime?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, it's fun to look at our lives and reflect
on our influences throughout the day. And by the way,
that is an everyday occurrence with my cat, so it's
not just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's not just today.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Anyways, I want to talk about here's our topic for
the day. It's a common theme with us, we talk
about it often. But I want to talk about this
subject in a different light, and that is the importance
of leadership, the importance of leadership. And so we're heading
off next week into Montana Camp. If you're not familiar,
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go to Montanacamp dot org. And it's a three day conference.
Originally it started as a real estate conference years ago,
and it says converted into are morphed into more of
an entrepreneur conference, and I love the leadership behind it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Justin Metcha.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, he talks about agents are actually entrepreneurs, you know,
because most of them are running their own businesses, and
so it's more important for him to put together conference
for entrepreneurs instead of just agents. Right, And so now
we've got this morphine of a wonderful event next week.
Come out tickets are I guess what happened, right, I
don't know if you knew this or not. One of
(11:40):
the sponsors donated several I don't know thousand dollars to
bring down the ticket price to cover the overage from
fifty nine dollars to what it was.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So anyways, that's awesome because I bought my ticket when it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Was more right three times more? Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So anyways, that's next week, and you know, the topics
are faith, family, fitness, and finance but all that converges
into different discussions on leadership, and in my talk that
I'll be giving, we'll be on leadership as well as
covering all four of those topics in brief. But we
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have a meeting this week at our office in my
real estate world and the topic was leadership. And although
we've covered that many times there as well, just like
we do here, I think it's nice to remind people.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That we're all leaders.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
If you're putting one foot in front of the other,
you are a leader. And I know I clearly said
this on another show. Is any one of us can
look over our shoulder and see somebody that is following
our lead, whether that's your kids, your spouse, your business colleagues,
your partners, the football team, whatever, your dog, your cat.
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You know, we all play a leadership role at one
time or another. And so what I want to emphasize
about this is not only.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Are you a leader. If you are listening, you are
a leader.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you don't believe that, please look over your
shoulder and look around and see the people that you've
led at some point in your life, any point in
your life, and show yourself that you are a lead
a leader and capable of leading, and once you identify that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You're able to do so much more.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But the reason why I want to talk about this today,
Rod is this is a play on some of the
subject matter we covered on Tuesday at or office meeting.
We had a tragedy here in Flathead Valley on Mother's
Day and it was a It was a murder suicide.
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Not an easy subject matter, right, It's even hard to
say that on an educational business pide. But I think
we have to live in realities too, and the realities
are bad things happen around us.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And the question that I want.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
To pose to everybody, if we're leaders, and I've just
identified and proved that we're all leaders.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
If we're leaders, what.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Can we do as leaders to change the dynamics in
our surrounding you know, communities. What can we do to
make our communities, our neighborhoods, our homes, our schools or
places of business better so that we can move beyond,
(14:43):
you know, some of the tragedies that we see in
the news, so that we can be encouragers for people
that there is hope out there, that there that there's
a better alternative to murder suicide, Right, and so I
really want to challenge people to look around them and
get out of their comfort zone and maybe just a
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little bit beyond business to say, how can I lead
with my whole heart and make my community better?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right? And I just I know that we can do
better as a society.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And you know, so I'm hyper focused on my community
right now, and right I'm sure you're the same.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We've got a community that you've lived in for a
very long time, and we're both very passionate about it,
and we both play volunteer roles, you know, in different
government positions, you know, previously and current, and so you know,
what I'm asking people to do is look around their
immediate area and where they can lead and make a difference.
(15:47):
And I want to, you know, maybe touch on that
for a minute, Rod, but I want to give an
example on how you can lead, which is simple and
you may not even know the role that you're playing
as a leader. So if you want to comment briefly
on that, I'll expand a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, I'll jump in. And the tragedy is tragic, There's
no question it's and I believe what makes it tragic
is that I think it was avoidable. I don't know
these people personally, but I'm going to talk about leadership
real quick, because leadership ultimately is about relationship.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, if you're going to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Lead people, you need to understand them and be able
to empathize with them.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And I believe that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You know, I don't know these people that this murder suicide,
you know, the father. I looked it up online. I
looked at his social media posts because I wanted to
understand what could cause somebody, anybody, to do such a
horrid thing. And there are a couple of things that
jumped out at me. Number one, he was a businessman, right,
(16:57):
He had his own business with a partner, it looks like,
and so what was going on with the business? You know,
and there's never an excuse for bad behavior, But was
there a trigger there that other people might have known about?
You know, we know that the economy is difficult for
younger families, I think in this area, So what resources
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could have been available to that person. The second thing
I noticed in that post was there was a comment
in one of his posts about he understood back pain.
He had some sort of an injury, and he said,
now I get it. Now I understand how people can
be in such chronic pain, and that leads down a hole.
And again, I don't know the facts of the case,
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but I do know in general in our society that
a lot of people go to pain medication or even
over the counter cannabis medication to self medicate, which is
mind altering. And people who do things like kill their
own families and then themselves are not in the right mind.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They're not. So I believe there's a spiritual component to this.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And I won't even go into what I believe is
really going on there on this show, but I will
say that if you're in business with someone, or you
relate to those people, or they are servicing you as
a client, you need to develop relationship. It can't just
be transactional. We can't just be trading dollars for services.
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You need to build relationship relationships so people feel safe
enough to share with you. Man, I'm in pain today,
I can't get this under control, or I've got a
problem in my life, or I'm feeling desperate. I don't
feel like I have any hope or options. People need
to feel safe enough and comfortable enough, and so leadership
is ultimately I think first about relationship. If you can't
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empathize with people, you're never going to be able to
lead them, at least lead them properly.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
And so there's a whole lot going on with all that.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Believe me, it's been a topic of conversation at my
dinner table and it's been hard, and it is leadership
and I think are as communities we can do better.
And boy, don't even get me started on that, because
I wrote a whole report for the mayor at one
point in time and took a lot of heat because
I called people out on not doing what they should
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be doing, and that includes the churches, and that message
is even more important.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Today as this tragedy has exposed.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So, yeah, we all have a part to play, but
corporate organizations as a body also have a part to play,
and that includes government. So I don't know that that's
kind of off on a tangent, but definitely related.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, and I you know, again, it's a tough subject
matter to have on an entrepreneur show, but I think
to your point, as leaders, we need to look around
and fill a role when it's needed because circumstances can
be of if we're willing and able to lead and
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help others. And at the end of the day, that's
really what it's all about, right, don't don't We aren't
we in business to provide for our families and for
ourselves and to live a happier, better life which also
involves happy community. And you know that is it's required
of us to reach beyond our selfishness and help others.
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And so as a leader, if you can help identify
and and do things that will make a difference.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's what this call is about.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's that that's what this discussion is about, is that
we're called to do more. So I don't think he'll mind,
And so I'm going to give a little bit of
a live example as I was with Justin last night,
who hosted that meeting on Tuesday, and he stepped up
to talk about leadership in our company meeting, and you know,
it was it was a good discussion on proof of
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how we're all leaders and that we're called to lead, right,
and he was very emotional about the events. Okay, Justin
has young kids. He did not know the people involved,
He has young kids, so the story resonated with him
and in his mind it was very tragic. Of course,
in all of our minds. It was very tragic.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But he was.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Utilizing that as an as an understanding to emphasize the
importance of leadership and business. But in discussion with Justin
last night, he says, I just don't know what I
can do. And I said, I gotta, I gotta stop
you right there. Why, I said, because you're already doing
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And so this is part two of my requests is
that sometimes there's more that we can do, and that
and I really would like people to look around and
and evaluate what they are doing. Sometimes we are doing
something and it's become either second nature or it's a
natural activity to your personality and the way that you
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do things that you don't really the impact that you're making.
And this was the case with Justin, is that he
was willing to host a company meeting and shift the
entire topics of discussion backwards and forwards to emphasize the
importance of leadership and encourage people to be stronger while
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expressing emotion almost in a tearful.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Way, right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So it had a lot of impact on several occasions
during the one hour meeting. He was willing to do
that in a corporate setting. This meeting have about thirty people.
And when he wrapped up, the first thing I did,
Rod is I walked out the door and I called
my pastor and I said, Hey, there's more people hurting
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in this valley. We called Flahadd County, by the way,
the valley if you're not from this area. I said,
there's more people hurting in this valley. We need to
do something. Can we add a church service Monday night?
The next Monday Night, which is in a few days,
can we add a church service and provide something for
the community. And he says absolutely, Jim, let me start
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making some calls, right. So the point of saying that
is that Justin did not realize that his act of
leadership in his corporate meeting had already grown beyond those
four walls. The second somebody me walked out the door, right,
and I had to remind him of that. I said, Justin,
you are doing exactly what a leader would do. You're emotional,
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you're passionate. You're willing to turn your meeting upside down
to make an important point at an important time in
our community without fail. Okay, And so when you think
about that example in your own business life and in
your own entrepreneurial journey. How can you do that exact
thing within your own business? And God help us if
(23:57):
you if you have to wait for something like that
to happen, to have you shift gears, because I hope
nothing like that ever happens. Again, we know it probably will.
But but can you look at your business and lead
with an example like Justin has in his business and
know that you will be making a difference the second
somebody walks out of your meeting, are your office or
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when they get off the zoom call, are the cell
call in the car, whatever it looks like. No, that
you're leading can make a tangible difference. And when I
said to Justin, I said, you only know my example
because we're together tonight, post meeting and post making the call.
I said, there was twenty nine other people in that room.
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You want to tell me that nobody else did anything
when they walked out, I said, I highly doubt it.
So keep doing exactly what you're doing, stand tall and
being the leader that you are, and continue to lead
people based on what's important and what's happening in the
community around you for the betterment knowledge of the community.
I'll see your business and the people that work for
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you and all the other stuff that flows from that.
And I just thought, what a beautiful example of how
community looks and feels.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So Justin, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know how often you listen to the show,
and I hope you didn't mind that I kind of
reiterated what happened this week in my life. But what
a beautiful example of how to be a leader.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well what I like about that, too, Jim, is it
illustrates Justin's example. Illustrates that we have to be willing
as leaders to be vulnerable. You know, being authentic means
that we show our whole selves and our whole selves.
I don't know anybody out there who doesn't feel vulnerable
at some point in time about something. You know, But
(25:47):
and and with Justin, I get it because my vulnerability
is my family. You want to hurt me, That's that's
how you get to me, right, So the devil knows
that too, So that make no mistake. But vulnerability and
then just being authentic and being willing to communicate that,
(26:09):
and that's where action comes from. That's that drop in
the water that you know. You don't even know where
those ripples go out, how far they go out can
cause a lot of erosion at the end of the day.
So absolutely, it's it's a good thing. It's a great example,
a great example. So taking tragedy and learning from it
and making making something good happen.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, well, creating action.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So listen, I want to wrap up on that, right,
I don't I don't want to go too far into
other topics because I want this to resonate. We have
a little fun with the animal discussion in the beginning there,
but I think the important thing is is as entrepreneurs
are entrepreneurs when we look at soft skills, leadership is
definitely one of those soft skills that you learn and
(26:52):
that you have to practice. And then when you can
take an opportunity like what we're talking about today and
turn that into good for your community and your business
and the people around you, that's that's what makes the
difference between top leaders and people are just running a business.
And I know you and me, we're not here just
(27:13):
to help people run a business. We want people to
be the top of their game, run their ship the
best of their ability, utilizing every soft skill that we
can teach them. And so I'm gonna let it resonate
on that. Do you have any last thoughts?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Just a reminder that business is hard and you do
it by yourself, but you can't do it alone, and
that's why you need to tap into podcasts like this.
You need to go to events like Montana Camp because
it is hard. We know it's hard, and you need
help and you need tools, and you need camaraderie, you
(27:54):
need community. So don't go it alone because you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
We all, Hey, I have two coaches. I have a
business coach. I have a fitness coach. I've been in
the coaching business for eight years now and I've been
a leader for forty years. So we cannot go it alone.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And Rod, I have you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We lean on each other and so we have put
systems in place, and I'd encourage anybody that's listening to
put a system in place. By the way, we'd love
to have you at the Young Entrepreneur Syndicate. Go online.
It's ninety nine dollars a month. We meet every every week,
usually Tuesdays, at six pm Montana time, for an hour.
We cover soft skills and open discussion for anybody in
(28:35):
the group. So we'd love to have you. Rod good
to see you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Good to see you again too, Jim.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I will see you at Montana Camp.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I am so looking forward to it. It's going to
be great, right on, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Thanks for listening to show the show
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