August 2, 2025 • 33 mins
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Your hosts, Jim Riley and Rod Kuntz, are not just seasoned entrepreneurs; they’re expert storytellers with real-world experience in coaching, consulting, start-ups, fundraising, and crafting vibrant workplace cultures. Jim and Rod keep it real, sharing lessons learned from the trenches with humility, humor, and a focus on paying success forward. Every episode is packed with relatable stories, actionable advice, and a good dose of fun that’ll make you feel like you’re right there in the room. Whether you’re scaling your business, optimizing for profitability, or navigating failure, Jim and Rod have your back. So, if you’re ready to learn, laugh, and level up, you’ve found your tribe. Welcome to Young Entrepreneur Syndicate with Jim Riley and Rod Kuntz—where you’re not just listening, you’re part of the conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Answers Yes Podcast, where we interview some
of the most interesting people that have said yes to
opportunities in their life. We hope that through these stories
you can learn to create your own destiny by saying
yes along the way. Join us as we explore the
news series covering topics such as passion, integrity, and hard work.
I'm your host, Jim Riley, and I hope you enjoy
(00:32):
these interviews as much as I do. I believe that
everyone has an important message worth hearing. Hello and welcome
to Yes Entrepreneurs. Rod kon how you doing to Dabud.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm doing great, Jim. It is so good to be alive.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh my gosh, isn't it? It is? Every day there's
a lot going on. I'm watching people flourish in their lives.
I'm watching exciting things happen right now. And to mention,
the weather's awesome. It's summertime, full swing here in Montana.
So yeah, great time to be.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Alive, absolutely, great time to get things done, great time
to be grateful and be appreciative of other people in
your life too. I know you're in a spot right
now where you know you appreciate people when they're gone,
don't you sure do? Sure do?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Speaking to people I want to talk about the first
portion of our podcast today is if you haven't caught it,
on my last two intros, I said, welcome to the
Yes Entrepreneurs podcast, And what I did is I dropped
the young Entrepreneur syndicate. I know it's similar, and Rod,
(01:43):
do you know what's going on here? What we're doing
listen up, is we're broadening our reach through Yes. And
what that means is that our emphasis is moving beyond
just young but to everybody. And through that, and Rob,
We've got a lot of conversations about that. Through that,
we're looking to build community. Community. And I'm not saying
(02:09):
that lightly. I mean that in the whole sense of
the word. And right, we were just talking about, you know,
a business deal where we went and we leaned into
community first, right, and then maybe tension later. But community
is so important, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You can't do this. I've said it before, Jim, and
I'm actually going to make a video today talking about
this subject right here, so I'll let the cat out
of the bag for those who don't follow me on
social media. And we've said it before, I've preached it
on our calls in the past that when you're in
business you do it alone. Well, you do it alone,
(02:49):
but you can't do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, And that's what the community is. You can't do
this by yourself. No matter what business is, I don't
care what it is, sale, retail, sales, whatever it is,
you can't do it alone. You do it by yourself.
It's your business, it's your baby, your vision, your dream,
your work. But you can't do it alone. And as
(03:13):
soon as you realize that, you realize how important other
people are to your success and your business's success, so
and your growth, your personal growth as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Really is amazing to see the value that other people
can bring, you know, to your business through community. And
I didn't realize it until recently, the level of importance
at that plays, especially for entrepreneurs. And you know, I think, well,
(03:46):
let me just step back for a second. You know,
I've talked a lot about this, this real estate journey
I've been on, which has been awesome. And one of
the cool things about being in real estate is that
you know, they're big companies with employees and I haven't
you know, being an entrepreneur, I haven't walked into an
office in years until eight months ago, and so I
always look forward to Tuesdays at eleven. I went into
(04:07):
the office brick and mortar and sat there through the
team meetings from eleven to twelve, and then we all left,
and I realized, for me, I have community that I've
built the last seven years online you know, you and
I online a lot, but also in person. And I
have all this connectivity around this country with business colleagues
(04:28):
of being in business the last forty two years. But
what I see every Tuesday at noon is when people
walk out of that office, that's their whole community. They
just walked out of their community and they're going back
to their independent lives with no connectivity outside of that.
And so then I see them show up at the
next meeting and the next meeting, and then I hear that, oh,
I showed up at the at the Wednesday meeting, and
(04:49):
then the Thursday night you know meeting, and then the
Friday morning meeting. But yet they're never conducting business or
moving forward because there's such a desire for that community,
and they're hoping that that community is going to, you know,
help pay their bills. Maybe the knowledge that they're they're
getting there will help, but it's not generating the action
(05:09):
that's needed. And I believe that that happens through community
because as you get involved, right, you start transacting in
public and in that community as well as when you
can reach beyond your four walls, which would be that
meeting and get out and get to know people in
other arenas. And that is what is so exciting to
(05:32):
me about And I'll just I'll say it here so
we're super clear. Every Tuesday, the intention is every Tuesday
at twelve thirty Montana's standard time, we're going to host
a free call on Zoom that is centered around community
and you know the values behind that. Actually, our friend
(05:54):
Rachel said community connection, resurrection. Everyone is longing for what
is gone. You know, before the Internet, before the phones,
before we had our faces stuffed into Instagram, you know,
we used to connect and so I want to be
able to bring that back and have these Tuesday calls
(06:16):
centered around faith, family, and business. And so we just
did a call. Was awesome. Thank you for being there
Rod and giving your awesome input. We had some heavy
hitters in the in the room that day.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We did, and and every one of them and It's
interesting you mentioned that, Jim, there were heavy hitters. There
were people who have their own success and successful communities,
but they still need more. Yeah, they all recognize it.
They still want more community or the communities they built.
I think one of the the most interesting things was
(06:53):
they said they started off with community and they ended
up in marketing. Yeah, and we're the opposite here, we're
in community and staying in community.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, and to further that point, they ended up in
marketing and now they're going back to community, right, realizing like, hey,
we start in community, we left that and now we're
back and you know it. And I don't mean to
emphasize the fact that we had heavy hitters, but what
I like about that the most is at the highest
level they recognize, like, hey, there is value in creating
(07:27):
and generating community with everyday people, even at the level
that I'm at, to come back to its core roots,
which is the example you just gave, like how do
we generate more community? And so what I'm hoping to
see is that we get a list professionals, not just
in real estate because I've been talking a lot about that,
but just in the business community to achieve you know,
(07:48):
kind of this common goal of helping one another out.
What I don't want to do is have people get
off the phone and go, Okay, now, what how do
I pay my bills?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because at the end of the day, sometimes that's really
what it is. Right, these people are showing up every
week to these meetings to sell more real estate to
pay their bills.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I want people to show up to our community calls,
connect with other people, get off the call and go,
you know what, I need to text that person I
just met and ask them about this or help them
with this, or offer this service because they said they
needed it, and from there the community can grow. Right
(08:29):
like So, just as a quick example for everybody that's listening,
Rob Bailey was on the call. He's the founder of
Flag nor Fail. It's a worldwide brand. He and his
wife have millions of followers and they're here locally. And
I've done some work with Rob and Rob host Cars
and Coffee. It's a new community event that he's been
(08:50):
doing and it's every month, once a month on a
Saturday or whatever. He goes, Yeah, we're trying to find
you know, somebody's going to provide barbecue and you know
it'd be nice to have some more cars over there
and all this stuff. Right, Well, I said Rob Ben
who's on the call, not only does he have a
cool car that he can bring, but he has a
barbecue like catering company. You guys need to connect, right.
(09:15):
And then somebody else that did something that related to Rob,
I'm like, you should connect with Rob because your interest, right,
And so all of a sudden on the phone, you know,
on the call, we're connecting the dots for people to
see how that works, and that is the goal. There
wasn't a single person on that call that couldn't benefit
from another person on the call that I recognized, knowing
(09:35):
what I know about everybody there, right, Absolutely, that's community.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, and I'm going to go a step beyond that,
because community fails when there's no relationships involved. And so
what real community is is how you build a community
is by building relationships. And that means you need to
understand and empathize with other people and their problems with
(10:02):
their businesses. You know, we can't help people if we
don't know what their problems are, and we can't understand
how to solve those problems if we don't even know
what it is they do and how they do it
and why they do it. So we have to have
those discussions. And I think about, I've got a wide
and YouTube, Jim, We've got a wide range of work experience,
(10:24):
and every little job I had, even as a teenager,
I learned something significant from about people or about work
or about processes, I've learned something significant. And how many
people didn't have all the experiences I had and I
had a lot. I just you know, I was blessed
(10:45):
with the ability to do lots of different things. And
with that kind of knowledge, I can only imagine how
hard it is for some people to walk in. That's
why I see these big corporate consultants and stuff, and
they might understand corporations, but they don't understand small businesses.
They don't understand startup businesses necessarily, you know, the big
(11:06):
consulting gurus and that sort of thing. And yeah, some
of the problems might be similar, but your approach to
them has to be different. It has to be matched
with a certain level of not only knowledge, but where
is the accountability? And I think that's what was lacking
in the community that you just mentioned. There's a meeting
(11:29):
and that everyone's just floundering. If you don't have a relationship,
you're not going to have any accountability.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Who's holding you accountable to use the tools that you
just got at that meeting?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Somebody needs to be there in a personal relationship to say, Okay,
how do you implement this now? Where do you need
a coach to say? Okay, this is what you learned
at that meeting, how are you going to use it
in your business? How are you going to use it today? Right?
You have to be held accountable to the knowledge that
you're getting and the tools that you're receiving from people.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent. It's just like the second that
that call was over, I sent rob Ben's contact information, like, hey,
rob this guy has a cool car that can come
to your place as well as a barbecue company. You
guys should connect, right, That is creating action the second
the call was over. And by the way, if you remember,
during the call, I said, hey, everybody, use the chat
(12:21):
feature on Zoom. Put in your website, your needs, your wants,
your Instagram handle, whatever that looks like. Put it in
the chat and start communicating with one another so that
these doors start to open. Now, This thing's going to
evolve where we'll have We'll have some guest speakers, We'll
go through everybody's needs, wants and offer to helps whatever
(12:45):
that looks like, right, how we'll serve others. You know,
we're going to go through all that in the future.
This is going to evolve and these calls again, and
the reason why I emphasize free is Rod and I
have had a coaching group and it was a fee
based group. It is still around, it will continue to
be around, and it will be an extension of what
(13:07):
these calls are. But not everybody needs that. Some people
can just come onto these calls, have community, build relationships,
use the tools that are in these calls, and if
you want to take that a step further, whether that's
with us in our coaching at Yes Entrepreneurs, We're gonna
have Alex Hermosi's school platform to kind of collect everybody
(13:30):
and you know, you can collaborate there and we're going
to throw all of our tools onto that platform and
it's gonna be a low barrier entry. What are we
going to do like ten bucks a month to do that?
And then it gives you access to all these things
in real time on a platform. But the point is
that you can just jump on these calls and collaborate
with people.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Rob Bailey does have a coaching group, you know, so
I live in abundance. I know you do. Rod, Hey,
if you want to go with Rob, here's his coaching group.
He's on the call. Brad Dunn fitness trainer. He also
has a coaching group. Train with Brad if you want right,
I don't care where you go. I want to put
the tools in front of you. I want to put
(14:13):
the connections in front of you. Between Rod, myself and
our two partners, Rachel and Rachel. We have connectivity around
this country tenfold. If you need something, join the calls,
get connected, ask for help, generate the action after the calls,
and let's make a difference, all working towards the same thing.
(14:35):
I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I am too, Jim. And one of the things I
mentioned when we first started going down this road, and
I think I have actually posted online too. What excites
me the most is we're doing this for other people.
We're not doing this for us. We're not doing this
for ourselves, and that was never our goal when we
started The Young Entrepreneur syndicate. So moving to yes entrepreneurs,
(15:02):
the heart of it is the same. We want to
help and however we can best accomplish that. We're going
to keep moving in that direction. If that means we
have to shift and move as the market moves, is
the society as the culture moves, We're going to do that.
As the technology moves, like to school the school platform,
We're going to move. And that's part of it. We
(15:25):
practice what we preach, and I think that's important, you know,
because people get stuck and you know, it's not just
religion where people get stuck in dogma. They get stuck
in business dogma too. Well, why do you do it
that way? We've always done it that way. I went
to a seminar in nineteen seventy and this is what
they taught. So I went to college in nineteen eighty
(15:47):
and this is what they taught. So we're going to
keep doing you know, no things change. We need to
be aware and we need to be watchful and expectant.
You know, if you go to a meeting, that's the
other thing, go to a meeting expecting to get something
from it. Don't go with the drudgery of oh Man
I just want to jump on. I need to be here.
(16:08):
I want to get my name out there. No go
in expecting that you're going to gain something from that meeting.
If it's a zoom call, if it's a physical meeting,
you know, if it's church, go expecting you're going to
get something useful that you can put to use well.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And that's my hope and desire that people do show
up to these calls prepared, ready to write something down,
ready to connect, ready to generate some action afterwards. But
I want to just emphasize what you said for a minute, Rod,
and that is we're doing this because you know, there's
no greater joy than helping somebody out, you know, and
being the best version of ourselves and doing the best
(16:46):
job we possibly can. You know, does business come our way? Absolutely?
Is it expected? No, it just happens that way. So
if you know my story, I created a tequila company
back in two thousand and seve and my point in
my partnership with the people down in Mexico was to
treat them like family and be family with them, and
(17:09):
you know, give first fruits back to them. We donated
to the schools down there and anything else that we could,
and I built that brand and I left it in
twenty seventeen in the hands of other people. I got
a message from the son of one of the managers
at the distillery. I recognize his name, and I remember
there's a lot of little kids around, so we're talking.
(17:32):
This is a number of years, so's ten, I don't know,
eighteen years ago. I get this message the other day
on Instagram, and I'm going to just use his language. Hello,
my bro, how are you. I'm Fernando Rivera's son. I
remember you like a fucking chill and fine bro. Happy
to say hi from Tequila Meteviya Azuna. You know his
(17:55):
memory of me, you know, in his words, he's probably
a kid still is chill and fine? Right, happiness, fine, happiness,
say hi to me. Obviously, my mission of you know,
putting family first was accomplished, and this kid sees it
eighteen years later and wanted to say hi. I've never
(18:16):
heard from him.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Before, right, It's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And I and I responded. I said, Hey, good to
hear from you. Some of my best memories in my
life were down there. Please say hi to all your families,
wishing you success and happiness, right, say hello to everyone.
For me, that's what I want in ten years from now.
I want to get a message, hey, bro, you're you're
(18:39):
finding chill. Thanks for the community you built with young
you know, with the Entrepreneur's Call, right yeah, that to me,
that is worth more than any dollar amount I could
have ever made, is that we were able to make
an impression on somebody's life. And that's and I think
for both you and I, Rod and the Rachels, I
think that that's what we're after with these calls.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Absolutely absolutely, And I just want to say again I'm
going to emphasize this. Those of you listening, you play
a part in in this. You play the most part
in your success. So when we're throwing this stuff out there,
you know you have to be picking up what we're
putting down. That's good, right, put it in your basket,
(19:18):
but you got to put it to use. And if
you don't know how to put it to use, man
ask somebody, Ask somebody, because you know, tools are just tools.
Sayings are just sayings. You know why. Sayings are are whys,
but they do no practical good unless you're walking it out.
So that's right, We're here to help you walk it
out too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's right, here's the topic for the day, and we'll
go brief so this thing doesn't drag on forever. But
by the way, those calls again happening on Tuesdays twelve
thirty pm Montana Standard time. For now, show up. We've
had We had all kinds of great people on the call.
Some I was surprised that they were there because they
(19:58):
lead very, very busy lives, and some I was surprised
that they weren't there because they said they would be there.
So don't miss out, and if you do, it's every Tuesday.
This podcast supports what we talk about there in terms
of the soft skills in business, as well as another
place to connect with Rod and I and if you
want to get in our coaching group dm us, email
(20:19):
us whatever. Jump on for now, Young Entrepreneurs Syndicate dot com,
which will be converted to Yes entrepreneurs. We're easy to find.
We're all of it, you know, Instagram, whatever. Okay, topic
for the day, Take the vacation, Take the vacation. I
(20:40):
just got off the phone. I called a dear friend
who I love and adore him and his family and
you know, just hey, we were talking about church and
stuff like that, and how's work going, how's life. He's like,
I'm busy, busy, busy, you know, and families giving me pressure.
I'm spending too much time at work and this and that.
I'm like, well, what's on your two do list? He's like, well,
(21:01):
I really need to take a vacation. I said, oh,
you have some vacation time. He goes, yeah, I got
a lot. I said, uh oh, what's a lot. Now
he's in corporate life, high pressure position, very very important
role in his company, with lots of counterparts that rely
on him. Okay, so think top level person, I have
(21:23):
eight weeks of vacation, Jim, I like almost came through
the phone at him. Eight weeks of vacation okay, and
I didn't ask, But let's make some presumptions. He gets
probably two or three a year granted to him, maybe
four okay, maybe four weeks a year in that kind
of position. That means if he's got eight weeks and
(21:45):
he gets four weeks a year vacation time, which is unlikely,
but that is two years of not taking vacation. That's
two years of putting your company first before probably your
god and your family. And your own health and your
own sanity for what right these big companies And I've
(22:11):
worked at one. I know you've worked at some big companies, Rod,
I've worked at one. They're gonna be there no matter what,
whether with or without you. And if you were to
die tomorrow, you will be replaced within a short period
of time. I'm sure I'm not talking to that individual specifically.
I'm just talking about in general. Right, This is it's
(22:34):
kind of like that. You know, we had a podcast
we talked about the face mask on the airplane.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, right, you have.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
To put that on first before you can help your kids.
Vacation is like the face mask on the airplane. You
need to detach, reconnect with yourself, with your family, with
your faith, right, get some fresh air, get your face
off the computer or whatever it is you do for work,
and use that vacation time. You know, the thing is,
(23:01):
companies know you need vacation time.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's why they give it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's why they give it. They may not want to
give it, but they give it because they know we
need it to recharge our batteries. So if you're not
using it, you're doing not only yourself, a disservice but
you're giving your company disservice. And I said to him,
I said, well, I'm not even going to really ask you,
but if you haven't taken your vacation time, is my
(23:27):
guess is that you're not working out, giving yourself any
type of physical fitness. And I'm also guessing that you're
probably not paying attention to good healthy living through your nutrition.
You know, a good diet, and your family's probably suffering
because of it. And what does that leave your company with.
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That's not the best version of yourself. If you want
to be the best version of yourself, put systems in
place so that you can recharge your batteries, so that
you can take some vacation time, so that you can
be with your family, so that you can set new routines,
you know, working out, eating right, loving your family, and
then coming back to work with enthusiasm and gusto for
(24:13):
the job instead of showing up tired, exhausted, worn out
brain fog every single day, day after day. It doesn't
work that way. You will burn out, you will lose
that job. Eventually they will replace you. And what will
you have an eight week paycheck while you go look
(24:36):
for another job? What are your thoughts. I know you,
I know what your thoughts are, but I would hear
them live.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Wow, I'm churning. I'm churning. First part of this is cultural.
You know, work hard, work harder, work harder, and you
have to grind it. And and sadly we hear a
lot of this from the entrepreneurial community. Also, you got
to put it in. You got go, go, go go. Oh,
you know, I haven't taken a vacation in so long. Well,
(25:02):
that's you know what, that's something that just because somebody
else is doing that and then they've got a level
of success, doesn't mean they've got their life in order. Yeah, right,
In fact, it's probably in disorder. Areas of their life
are probably in disorder. So a couple of things. First,
in my book the Warpath Alliance, the W stands for
work ethic, right, But the flip side of that that
(25:27):
is not sloth or laziness. The flip side of that is,
ironically enough workaholic. Workaholic will ruin you. If you have
a good work ethic, it means you have good balance,
you know when to work, you know when to shut
it off. Yeah, you need to take the vacation. So
a couple of things about that. Number One, some of
your best ideas are going to come while you're on vacation,
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when your mind's clear and you're not thinking about work.
That's where you get inspiration. You also may be somewhere,
go somewhere where you make a connection with someone else
or you see how someone else is doing something better.
So again, be expectant. You know, when you take that
time off, expect to be recharged, to be remotivated, to
be reinspired. So that might make it a little easier
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for you to do that, but it takes effort. And
the next thing I want to say is this. If
you're a small business even and you've got employees and
they're or a manager or something like that, and you say, well,
I can't take a vacation, you're doing something wrong. If
you are not training people to replace your time, efforts, talents,
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whatever while you're gone, you are making a mistake. If
you're holding your cards that close to the vest where
you don't trust someone else with this project or that project,
or even the books or the deposits or whatever, you
are making a mistake. You're hiring the wrong people, or
you're training they're wrong. You need to be hiring your replacement.
You need to be training your replacement so you can
(26:55):
take the time off. So if you're a small business,
start working on that. And if you work or someone else,
make sure that when you come back, it's not twice
the work to clean up. You should be training your
underlinks to handle things while you're gone. Give them the
responsibility and the freedom to try to do your job
and to fail if they have to. But you shouldn't
(27:17):
have to come back from a vacation and work twice
as hard for a week or two or a month
to get back in line. And if your employer is
not helping with that, you know, spreading the responsibility out
and stuff, that's on them too. But you've got to
speak up, you know, you have to do your part
in this. That being said, I'll tell a quick story too.
(27:38):
We'll we'll, I'll wrap this up. Mules in the minds
of Bee. I read a book on they used to
work mules. They would they would blindfold them and sling
them down into the minds and they work them for
eight years. You'll work for eight years, but it worked
eight hours a day, and at the end of that
eight hours. That mule didn't need a dinner bell or
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a union buzzer or anything else, you know, the whistle.
The mules stopped working if they had a load of
ore and it was they were pulling it and it
was halfway there. If it was eight hours, they stopped.
They knew, they knew. And if they put if the
people who were loading those carts and I can't remember
how many pounds it was, they put so many pounds
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on a sled and these mules would have to drag it.
If they put an extra ten pounds, the mules knew
it and refused to work. They refused to be abused.
They were work animals, they were trained. They sent them
down into the mines and they would not be abused.
They didn't need a union. They do these animals. We
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can learn from the Animal Kingdom. And the book was
inspiring to me because after eight years they retired the mules.
They brought them back up into the daylight, and they
never worked again. And they were so you're better than people.
They were treated better than the miners. They ate well,
they got regular stuff. But again they did not tolerate
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over work, both in time and with effort.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So even a mule knows not to work over.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Eight hours, Yes, yes, and yes, So I don't know. Yeah,
I'm sure I could find the book. I loaned it
to a friend of mine who owned mules because I
thought I found it was so fascinating. But if you
ever run into that book and it's something with the
mules in Anaconda and Butte, phenomenal, But lessons can be
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learned from the animal Kingdom. So I I.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Just saw a post the other day celebrating a life
of one of those famous mules. Really but yeah, it
said in service this time, this time, and it gave
a little description about how important they were. Didn't talk
about the hours of the wait and all that stuff.
But it's like, how cool is that they're celebrating an
animal that helped these miners. So you know, what a
wonderful point to leave that on. Let's be smarter than
(30:02):
the mule and know when the right time is to stop, okay,
because you know what your workday is going to be
there tomorrow guaranteed there'll be more to do tomorrow, and
the day after and the day after. The work's never
going to end, especially in these big companies. This is
what I'm going to end on and I'm so excited.
I have a call with the client. She works for
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a fortune five hundred company, senior executive, senior senior executive,
and over a year and a half ago she was
going to leave her job. She's like, I just don't
have time for the things that I want to be doing,
and you know, so we did the value proposition, like
what are your values? What's important? What are the goals
within those values? Right? And so after six short months
(30:47):
she realized like, hey, maybe I do like my job,
but I just need to reorganize it. So then we
worked on reorganizing it, and then we eventually worked on
setting our own non negotiables within our company. And even
at that level, you know, reporting up only to a CEO,
you can still say, hey, these are my non negotiables.
(31:09):
This is my life too. I will continue to perform
for you even better than I have in the past,
but these are my non negotiables now that I understand
what they are. And in her case, it was God
and family, you know. And so this entire twenty twenty
five years so far she has been working under non negotiables.
I haven't spoken to her for over a month. And
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it's because of her non negotiables, enjoying time with their
family and eliminating business for a period of time. And
so I'm so excited to hear what she's been up
to as we wrap up the year soon, you know.
And I guess the point of that story is that
I don't care who you work for, at what level,
there still needs to be non negotiables and you still
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need to take the vacation.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm going to end on this gym not only take
a vacation if you need help with that. And I'm
sure that people listen. There are probably a ton of
workaholics out there that are are driven right, and driven
is good, but you can't be abused. Don't abuse yourself.
Take a day off a week, Take the Sabbath. Take
the Sabbath is just a rest. Take a day off.
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Do that. Start Start with a day off a week
and see where that leads. Maybe you'll be able to
take a vacation. After a couple of months of taking
a day off and realizing that, hey, life goes on
and I feel better, I'm energized, I'm rested, I'm ready
to go and get back to us. Let Jim and
I know what inspiration you got from taking time off.
(32:42):
Tell us what good thing you found that helped launch
your business into that next level. Let us know, because
it's out there and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Or just how your health and your relationships have improved.
Absolutely love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
To me.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'd rather hear about that than anything else. How has
your health and your relationships improved after taking a day off?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Let alone the vacation, so everything else will come after that.
That's right, Rod, Good to see you, Love you my friend. Hey,
don't forget Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Join our free community calls, build some relationships with people.
As I already suggested, there are some incredible people that
have already shown up to the call and Rod, the
messages came pouring in directly afterwards. Thank you, thank you,
thank you. I'll be there next week. Can I bring
a friend? You know, what's the deal?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So? Anyways, Hey, can you put that zoom link in
the notes? I can't for you for anyone listening right now?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Good idea? Okay, thank you, I'm like I was lost
for a second. Yes, I will put it in the
show notes the zoom link to join the Yes community
call next week or every tuesdays after, same link, same
link every time, right on. Good to see you
Speaker 2 (33:53):
All right, Good to see you, my friend,
Welcome to the Answers Yes Podcast, where we interview some
of the most interesting people that have said yes to
opportunities in their life. We hope that through these stories
you can learn to create your own destiny by saying
yes along the way. Join us as we explore the
news series covering topics such as passion, integrity, and hard work.
I'm your host, Jim Riley, and I hope you enjoy
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these interviews as much as I do. I believe that
everyone has an important message worth hearing. Hello and welcome
to Yes Entrepreneurs. Rod kon how you doing to Dabud.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm doing great, Jim. It is so good to be alive.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh my gosh, isn't it? It is? Every day there's
a lot going on. I'm watching people flourish in their lives.
I'm watching exciting things happen right now. And to mention,
the weather's awesome. It's summertime, full swing here in Montana.
So yeah, great time to be.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Alive, absolutely, great time to get things done, great time
to be grateful and be appreciative of other people in
your life too. I know you're in a spot right
now where you know you appreciate people when they're gone,
don't you sure do? Sure do?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Speaking to people I want to talk about the first
portion of our podcast today is if you haven't caught it,
on my last two intros, I said, welcome to the
Yes Entrepreneurs podcast, And what I did is I dropped
the young Entrepreneur syndicate. I know it's similar, and Rod,
(01:43):
do you know what's going on here? What we're doing
listen up, is we're broadening our reach through Yes. And
what that means is that our emphasis is moving beyond
just young but to everybody. And through that, and Rob,
We've got a lot of conversations about that. Through that,
we're looking to build community. Community. And I'm not saying
(02:09):
that lightly. I mean that in the whole sense of
the word. And right, we were just talking about, you know,
a business deal where we went and we leaned into
community first, right, and then maybe tension later. But community
is so important, right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You can't do this. I've said it before, Jim, and
I'm actually going to make a video today talking about
this subject right here, so I'll let the cat out
of the bag for those who don't follow me on
social media. And we've said it before, I've preached it
on our calls in the past that when you're in
business you do it alone. Well, you do it alone,
(02:49):
but you can't do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, And that's what the community is. You can't do
this by yourself. No matter what business is, I don't
care what it is, sale, retail, sales, whatever it is,
you can't do it alone. You do it by yourself.
It's your business, it's your baby, your vision, your dream,
your work. But you can't do it alone. And as
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soon as you realize that, you realize how important other
people are to your success and your business's success, so
and your growth, your personal growth as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Really is amazing to see the value that other people
can bring, you know, to your business through community. And
I didn't realize it until recently, the level of importance
at that plays, especially for entrepreneurs. And you know, I think, well,
(03:46):
let me just step back for a second. You know,
I've talked a lot about this, this real estate journey
I've been on, which has been awesome. And one of
the cool things about being in real estate is that
you know, they're big companies with employees and I haven't
you know, being an entrepreneur, I haven't walked into an
office in years until eight months ago, and so I
always look forward to Tuesdays at eleven. I went into
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the office brick and mortar and sat there through the
team meetings from eleven to twelve, and then we all left,
and I realized, for me, I have community that I've
built the last seven years online you know, you and
I online a lot, but also in person. And I
have all this connectivity around this country with business colleagues
(04:28):
of being in business the last forty two years. But
what I see every Tuesday at noon is when people
walk out of that office, that's their whole community. They
just walked out of their community and they're going back
to their independent lives with no connectivity outside of that.
And so then I see them show up at the
next meeting and the next meeting, and then I hear that, oh,
I showed up at the at the Wednesday meeting, and
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then the Thursday night you know meeting, and then the
Friday morning meeting. But yet they're never conducting business or
moving forward because there's such a desire for that community,
and they're hoping that that community is going to, you know,
help pay their bills. Maybe the knowledge that they're they're
getting there will help, but it's not generating the action
(05:09):
that's needed. And I believe that that happens through community
because as you get involved, right, you start transacting in
public and in that community as well as when you
can reach beyond your four walls, which would be that
meeting and get out and get to know people in
other arenas. And that is what is so exciting to
(05:32):
me about And I'll just I'll say it here so
we're super clear. Every Tuesday, the intention is every Tuesday
at twelve thirty Montana's standard time, we're going to host
a free call on Zoom that is centered around community
and you know the values behind that. Actually, our friend
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Rachel said community connection, resurrection. Everyone is longing for what
is gone. You know, before the Internet, before the phones,
before we had our faces stuffed into Instagram, you know,
we used to connect and so I want to be
able to bring that back and have these Tuesday calls
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centered around faith, family, and business. And so we just
did a call. Was awesome. Thank you for being there
Rod and giving your awesome input. We had some heavy
hitters in the in the room that day.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We did, and and every one of them and It's
interesting you mentioned that, Jim, there were heavy hitters. There
were people who have their own success and successful communities,
but they still need more. Yeah, they all recognize it.
They still want more community or the communities they built.
I think one of the the most interesting things was
(06:53):
they said they started off with community and they ended
up in marketing. Yeah, and we're the opposite here, we're
in community and staying in community.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, and to further that point, they ended up in
marketing and now they're going back to community, right, realizing like, hey,
we start in community, we left that and now we're
back and you know it. And I don't mean to
emphasize the fact that we had heavy hitters, but what
I like about that the most is at the highest
level they recognize, like, hey, there is value in creating
(07:27):
and generating community with everyday people, even at the level
that I'm at, to come back to its core roots,
which is the example you just gave, like how do
we generate more community? And so what I'm hoping to
see is that we get a list professionals, not just
in real estate because I've been talking a lot about that,
but just in the business community to achieve you know,
(07:48):
kind of this common goal of helping one another out.
What I don't want to do is have people get
off the phone and go, Okay, now, what how do
I pay my bills?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because at the end of the day, sometimes that's really
what it is. Right, these people are showing up every
week to these meetings to sell more real estate to
pay their bills.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I want people to show up to our community calls,
connect with other people, get off the call and go,
you know what, I need to text that person I
just met and ask them about this or help them
with this, or offer this service because they said they
needed it, and from there the community can grow. Right
(08:29):
like So, just as a quick example for everybody that's listening,
Rob Bailey was on the call. He's the founder of
Flag nor Fail. It's a worldwide brand. He and his
wife have millions of followers and they're here locally. And
I've done some work with Rob and Rob host Cars
and Coffee. It's a new community event that he's been
(08:50):
doing and it's every month, once a month on a
Saturday or whatever. He goes, Yeah, we're trying to find
you know, somebody's going to provide barbecue and you know
it'd be nice to have some more cars over there
and all this stuff. Right, Well, I said Rob Ben
who's on the call, not only does he have a
cool car that he can bring, but he has a
barbecue like catering company. You guys need to connect, right.
(09:15):
And then somebody else that did something that related to Rob,
I'm like, you should connect with Rob because your interest, right,
And so all of a sudden on the phone, you know,
on the call, we're connecting the dots for people to
see how that works, and that is the goal. There
wasn't a single person on that call that couldn't benefit
from another person on the call that I recognized, knowing
(09:35):
what I know about everybody there, right, Absolutely, that's community.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, and I'm going to go a step beyond that,
because community fails when there's no relationships involved. And so
what real community is is how you build a community
is by building relationships. And that means you need to
understand and empathize with other people and their problems with
(10:02):
their businesses. You know, we can't help people if we
don't know what their problems are, and we can't understand
how to solve those problems if we don't even know
what it is they do and how they do it
and why they do it. So we have to have
those discussions. And I think about, I've got a wide
and YouTube, Jim, We've got a wide range of work experience,
(10:24):
and every little job I had, even as a teenager,
I learned something significant from about people or about work
or about processes, I've learned something significant. And how many
people didn't have all the experiences I had and I
had a lot. I just you know, I was blessed
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with the ability to do lots of different things. And
with that kind of knowledge, I can only imagine how
hard it is for some people to walk in. That's
why I see these big corporate consultants and stuff, and
they might understand corporations, but they don't understand small businesses.
They don't understand startup businesses necessarily, you know, the big
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consulting gurus and that sort of thing. And yeah, some
of the problems might be similar, but your approach to
them has to be different. It has to be matched
with a certain level of not only knowledge, but where
is the accountability? And I think that's what was lacking
in the community that you just mentioned. There's a meeting
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and that everyone's just floundering. If you don't have a relationship,
you're not going to have any accountability.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Who's holding you accountable to use the tools that you
just got at that meeting?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Somebody needs to be there in a personal relationship to say, Okay,
how do you implement this now? Where do you need
a coach to say? Okay, this is what you learned
at that meeting, how are you going to use it
in your business? How are you going to use it today? Right?
You have to be held accountable to the knowledge that
you're getting and the tools that you're receiving from people.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent. It's just like the second that
that call was over, I sent rob Ben's contact information, like, hey,
rob this guy has a cool car that can come
to your place as well as a barbecue company. You
guys should connect, right, That is creating action the second
the call was over. And by the way, if you remember,
during the call, I said, hey, everybody, use the chat
(12:21):
feature on Zoom. Put in your website, your needs, your wants,
your Instagram handle, whatever that looks like. Put it in
the chat and start communicating with one another so that
these doors start to open. Now, This thing's going to
evolve where we'll have We'll have some guest speakers, We'll
go through everybody's needs, wants and offer to helps whatever
(12:45):
that looks like, right, how we'll serve others. You know,
we're going to go through all that in the future.
This is going to evolve and these calls again, and
the reason why I emphasize free is Rod and I
have had a coaching group and it was a fee
based group. It is still around, it will continue to
be around, and it will be an extension of what
(13:07):
these calls are. But not everybody needs that. Some people
can just come onto these calls, have community, build relationships,
use the tools that are in these calls, and if
you want to take that a step further, whether that's
with us in our coaching at Yes Entrepreneurs, We're gonna
have Alex Hermosi's school platform to kind of collect everybody
(13:30):
and you know, you can collaborate there and we're going
to throw all of our tools onto that platform and
it's gonna be a low barrier entry. What are we
going to do like ten bucks a month to do that?
And then it gives you access to all these things
in real time on a platform. But the point is
that you can just jump on these calls and collaborate
with people.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Rob Bailey does have a coaching group, you know, so
I live in abundance. I know you do. Rod, Hey,
if you want to go with Rob, here's his coaching group.
He's on the call. Brad Dunn fitness trainer. He also
has a coaching group. Train with Brad if you want right,
I don't care where you go. I want to put
the tools in front of you. I want to put
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the connections in front of you. Between Rod, myself and
our two partners, Rachel and Rachel. We have connectivity around
this country tenfold. If you need something, join the calls,
get connected, ask for help, generate the action after the calls,
and let's make a difference, all working towards the same thing.
(14:35):
I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I am too, Jim. And one of the things I
mentioned when we first started going down this road, and
I think I have actually posted online too. What excites
me the most is we're doing this for other people.
We're not doing this for us. We're not doing this
for ourselves, and that was never our goal when we
started The Young Entrepreneur syndicate. So moving to yes entrepreneurs,
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the heart of it is the same. We want to
help and however we can best accomplish that. We're going
to keep moving in that direction. If that means we
have to shift and move as the market moves, is
the society as the culture moves, We're going to do that.
As the technology moves, like to school the school platform,
We're going to move. And that's part of it. We
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practice what we preach, and I think that's important, you know,
because people get stuck and you know, it's not just
religion where people get stuck in dogma. They get stuck
in business dogma too. Well, why do you do it
that way? We've always done it that way. I went
to a seminar in nineteen seventy and this is what
they taught. So I went to college in nineteen eighty
(15:47):
and this is what they taught. So we're going to
keep doing you know, no things change. We need to
be aware and we need to be watchful and expectant.
You know, if you go to a meeting, that's the
other thing, go to a meeting expecting to get something
from it. Don't go with the drudgery of oh Man
I just want to jump on. I need to be here.
(16:08):
I want to get my name out there. No go
in expecting that you're going to gain something from that meeting.
If it's a zoom call, if it's a physical meeting,
you know, if it's church, go expecting you're going to
get something useful that you can put to use well.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And that's my hope and desire that people do show
up to these calls prepared, ready to write something down,
ready to connect, ready to generate some action afterwards. But
I want to just emphasize what you said for a minute, Rod,
and that is we're doing this because you know, there's
no greater joy than helping somebody out, you know, and
being the best version of ourselves and doing the best
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job we possibly can. You know, does business come our way? Absolutely?
Is it expected? No, it just happens that way. So
if you know my story, I created a tequila company
back in two thousand and seve and my point in
my partnership with the people down in Mexico was to
treat them like family and be family with them, and
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you know, give first fruits back to them. We donated
to the schools down there and anything else that we could,
and I built that brand and I left it in
twenty seventeen in the hands of other people. I got
a message from the son of one of the managers
at the distillery. I recognize his name, and I remember
there's a lot of little kids around, so we're talking.
(17:32):
This is a number of years, so's ten, I don't know,
eighteen years ago. I get this message the other day
on Instagram, and I'm going to just use his language. Hello,
my bro, how are you. I'm Fernando Rivera's son. I
remember you like a fucking chill and fine bro. Happy
to say hi from Tequila Meteviya Azuna. You know his
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memory of me, you know, in his words, he's probably
a kid still is chill and fine? Right, happiness, fine, happiness,
say hi to me. Obviously, my mission of you know,
putting family first was accomplished, and this kid sees it
eighteen years later and wanted to say hi. I've never
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heard from him.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Before, right, It's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And I and I responded. I said, Hey, good to
hear from you. Some of my best memories in my
life were down there. Please say hi to all your families,
wishing you success and happiness, right, say hello to everyone.
For me, that's what I want in ten years from now.
I want to get a message, hey, bro, you're you're
(18:39):
finding chill. Thanks for the community you built with young
you know, with the Entrepreneur's Call, right yeah, that to me,
that is worth more than any dollar amount I could
have ever made, is that we were able to make
an impression on somebody's life. And that's and I think
for both you and I, Rod and the Rachels, I
think that that's what we're after with these calls.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Absolutely absolutely, And I just want to say again I'm
going to emphasize this. Those of you listening, you play
a part in in this. You play the most part
in your success. So when we're throwing this stuff out there,
you know you have to be picking up what we're
putting down. That's good, right, put it in your basket,
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but you got to put it to use. And if
you don't know how to put it to use, man
ask somebody, Ask somebody, because you know, tools are just tools.
Sayings are just sayings. You know why. Sayings are are whys,
but they do no practical good unless you're walking it out.
So that's right, We're here to help you walk it
out too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's right, here's the topic for the day, and we'll
go brief so this thing doesn't drag on forever. But
by the way, those calls again happening on Tuesdays twelve
thirty pm Montana Standard time. For now, show up. We've
had We had all kinds of great people on the call.
Some I was surprised that they were there because they
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lead very, very busy lives, and some I was surprised
that they weren't there because they said they would be there.
So don't miss out, and if you do, it's every Tuesday.
This podcast supports what we talk about there in terms
of the soft skills in business, as well as another
place to connect with Rod and I and if you
want to get in our coaching group dm us, email
(20:19):
us whatever. Jump on for now, Young Entrepreneurs Syndicate dot com,
which will be converted to Yes entrepreneurs. We're easy to find.
We're all of it, you know, Instagram, whatever. Okay, topic
for the day, Take the vacation, Take the vacation. I
(20:40):
just got off the phone. I called a dear friend
who I love and adore him and his family and
you know, just hey, we were talking about church and
stuff like that, and how's work going, how's life. He's like,
I'm busy, busy, busy, you know, and families giving me pressure.
I'm spending too much time at work and this and that.
I'm like, well, what's on your two do list? He's like, well,
(21:01):
I really need to take a vacation. I said, oh,
you have some vacation time. He goes, yeah, I got
a lot. I said, uh oh, what's a lot. Now
he's in corporate life, high pressure position, very very important
role in his company, with lots of counterparts that rely
on him. Okay, so think top level person, I have
(21:23):
eight weeks of vacation, Jim, I like almost came through
the phone at him. Eight weeks of vacation okay, and
I didn't ask, But let's make some presumptions. He gets
probably two or three a year granted to him, maybe
four okay, maybe four weeks a year in that kind
of position. That means if he's got eight weeks and
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he gets four weeks a year vacation time, which is unlikely,
but that is two years of not taking vacation. That's
two years of putting your company first before probably your
god and your family. And your own health and your
own sanity for what right these big companies And I've
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worked at one. I know you've worked at some big companies, Rod,
I've worked at one. They're gonna be there no matter what,
whether with or without you. And if you were to
die tomorrow, you will be replaced within a short period
of time. I'm sure I'm not talking to that individual specifically.
I'm just talking about in general. Right, This is it's
(22:34):
kind of like that. You know, we had a podcast
we talked about the face mask on the airplane.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, right, you have.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
To put that on first before you can help your kids.
Vacation is like the face mask on the airplane. You
need to detach, reconnect with yourself, with your family, with
your faith, right, get some fresh air, get your face
off the computer or whatever it is you do for work,
and use that vacation time. You know, the thing is,
(23:01):
companies know you need vacation time.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's why they give it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's why they give it. They may not want to
give it, but they give it because they know we
need it to recharge our batteries. So if you're not
using it, you're doing not only yourself, a disservice but
you're giving your company disservice. And I said to him,
I said, well, I'm not even going to really ask you,
but if you haven't taken your vacation time, is my
(23:27):
guess is that you're not working out, giving yourself any
type of physical fitness. And I'm also guessing that you're
probably not paying attention to good healthy living through your nutrition.
You know, a good diet, and your family's probably suffering
because of it. And what does that leave your company with.
(23:49):
That's not the best version of yourself. If you want
to be the best version of yourself, put systems in
place so that you can recharge your batteries, so that
you can take some vacation time, so that you can
be with your family, so that you can set new routines,
you know, working out, eating right, loving your family, and
then coming back to work with enthusiasm and gusto for
(24:13):
the job instead of showing up tired, exhausted, worn out
brain fog every single day, day after day. It doesn't
work that way. You will burn out, you will lose
that job. Eventually they will replace you. And what will
you have an eight week paycheck while you go look
(24:36):
for another job? What are your thoughts. I know you,
I know what your thoughts are, but I would hear
them live.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Wow, I'm churning. I'm churning. First part of this is cultural.
You know, work hard, work harder, work harder, and you
have to grind it. And and sadly we hear a
lot of this from the entrepreneurial community. Also, you got
to put it in. You got go, go, go go. Oh,
you know, I haven't taken a vacation in so long. Well,
(25:02):
that's you know what, that's something that just because somebody
else is doing that and then they've got a level
of success, doesn't mean they've got their life in order. Yeah, right,
In fact, it's probably in disorder. Areas of their life
are probably in disorder. So a couple of things. First,
in my book the Warpath Alliance, the W stands for
work ethic, right, But the flip side of that that
(25:27):
is not sloth or laziness. The flip side of that is,
ironically enough workaholic. Workaholic will ruin you. If you have
a good work ethic, it means you have good balance,
you know when to work, you know when to shut
it off. Yeah, you need to take the vacation. So
a couple of things about that. Number One, some of
your best ideas are going to come while you're on vacation,
(25:50):
when your mind's clear and you're not thinking about work.
That's where you get inspiration. You also may be somewhere,
go somewhere where you make a connection with someone else
or you see how someone else is doing something better.
So again, be expectant. You know, when you take that
time off, expect to be recharged, to be remotivated, to
be reinspired. So that might make it a little easier
(26:11):
for you to do that, but it takes effort. And
the next thing I want to say is this. If
you're a small business even and you've got employees and
they're or a manager or something like that, and you say, well,
I can't take a vacation, you're doing something wrong. If
you are not training people to replace your time, efforts, talents,
(26:33):
whatever while you're gone, you are making a mistake. If
you're holding your cards that close to the vest where
you don't trust someone else with this project or that project,
or even the books or the deposits or whatever, you
are making a mistake. You're hiring the wrong people, or
you're training they're wrong. You need to be hiring your replacement.
You need to be training your replacement so you can
(26:55):
take the time off. So if you're a small business,
start working on that. And if you work or someone else,
make sure that when you come back, it's not twice
the work to clean up. You should be training your
underlinks to handle things while you're gone. Give them the
responsibility and the freedom to try to do your job
and to fail if they have to. But you shouldn't
(27:17):
have to come back from a vacation and work twice
as hard for a week or two or a month
to get back in line. And if your employer is
not helping with that, you know, spreading the responsibility out
and stuff, that's on them too. But you've got to
speak up, you know, you have to do your part
in this. That being said, I'll tell a quick story too.
(27:38):
We'll we'll, I'll wrap this up. Mules in the minds
of Bee. I read a book on they used to
work mules. They would they would blindfold them and sling
them down into the minds and they work them for
eight years. You'll work for eight years, but it worked
eight hours a day, and at the end of that
eight hours. That mule didn't need a dinner bell or
(28:02):
a union buzzer or anything else, you know, the whistle.
The mules stopped working if they had a load of
ore and it was they were pulling it and it
was halfway there. If it was eight hours, they stopped.
They knew, they knew. And if they put if the
people who were loading those carts and I can't remember
how many pounds it was, they put so many pounds
(28:24):
on a sled and these mules would have to drag it.
If they put an extra ten pounds, the mules knew
it and refused to work. They refused to be abused.
They were work animals, they were trained. They sent them
down into the mines and they would not be abused.
They didn't need a union. They do these animals. We
(28:47):
can learn from the Animal Kingdom. And the book was
inspiring to me because after eight years they retired the mules.
They brought them back up into the daylight, and they
never worked again. And they were so you're better than people.
They were treated better than the miners. They ate well,
they got regular stuff. But again they did not tolerate
(29:08):
over work, both in time and with effort.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So even a mule knows not to work over.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Eight hours, Yes, yes, and yes, So I don't know. Yeah,
I'm sure I could find the book. I loaned it
to a friend of mine who owned mules because I
thought I found it was so fascinating. But if you
ever run into that book and it's something with the
mules in Anaconda and Butte, phenomenal, But lessons can be
(29:37):
learned from the animal Kingdom. So I I.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Just saw a post the other day celebrating a life
of one of those famous mules. Really but yeah, it
said in service this time, this time, and it gave
a little description about how important they were. Didn't talk
about the hours of the wait and all that stuff.
But it's like, how cool is that they're celebrating an
animal that helped these miners. So you know, what a
wonderful point to leave that on. Let's be smarter than
(30:02):
the mule and know when the right time is to stop, okay,
because you know what your workday is going to be
there tomorrow guaranteed there'll be more to do tomorrow, and
the day after and the day after. The work's never
going to end, especially in these big companies. This is
what I'm going to end on and I'm so excited.
I have a call with the client. She works for
(30:25):
a fortune five hundred company, senior executive, senior senior executive,
and over a year and a half ago she was
going to leave her job. She's like, I just don't
have time for the things that I want to be doing,
and you know, so we did the value proposition, like
what are your values? What's important? What are the goals
within those values? Right? And so after six short months
(30:47):
she realized like, hey, maybe I do like my job,
but I just need to reorganize it. So then we
worked on reorganizing it, and then we eventually worked on
setting our own non negotiables within our company. And even
at that level, you know, reporting up only to a CEO,
you can still say, hey, these are my non negotiables.
(31:09):
This is my life too. I will continue to perform
for you even better than I have in the past,
but these are my non negotiables now that I understand
what they are. And in her case, it was God
and family, you know. And so this entire twenty twenty
five years so far she has been working under non negotiables.
I haven't spoken to her for over a month. And
(31:29):
it's because of her non negotiables, enjoying time with their
family and eliminating business for a period of time. And
so I'm so excited to hear what she's been up
to as we wrap up the year soon, you know.
And I guess the point of that story is that
I don't care who you work for, at what level,
there still needs to be non negotiables and you still
(31:52):
need to take the vacation.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm going to end on this gym not only take
a vacation if you need help with that. And I'm
sure that people listen. There are probably a ton of
workaholics out there that are are driven right, and driven
is good, but you can't be abused. Don't abuse yourself.
Take a day off a week, Take the Sabbath. Take
the Sabbath is just a rest. Take a day off.
(32:19):
Do that. Start Start with a day off a week
and see where that leads. Maybe you'll be able to
take a vacation. After a couple of months of taking
a day off and realizing that, hey, life goes on
and I feel better, I'm energized, I'm rested, I'm ready
to go and get back to us. Let Jim and
I know what inspiration you got from taking time off.
(32:42):
Tell us what good thing you found that helped launch
your business into that next level. Let us know, because
it's out there and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Or just how your health and your relationships have improved.
Absolutely love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
To me.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'd rather hear about that than anything else. How has
your health and your relationships improved after taking a day off?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Let alone the vacation, so everything else will come after that.
That's right, Rod, Good to see you, Love you my friend. Hey,
don't forget Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Join our free community calls, build some relationships with people.
As I already suggested, there are some incredible people that
have already shown up to the call and Rod, the
messages came pouring in directly afterwards. Thank you, thank you,
thank you. I'll be there next week. Can I bring
a friend? You know, what's the deal?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So? Anyways, Hey, can you put that zoom link in
the notes? I can't for you for anyone listening right now?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Good idea? Okay, thank you, I'm like I was lost
for a second. Yes, I will put it in the
show notes the zoom link to join the Yes community
call next week or every tuesdays after, same link, same
link every time, right on. Good to see you
Speaker 2 (33:53):
All right, Good to see you, my friend,
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