Augusta Golf Show with John Patrick/Ron Green Jr. & Joe Buck

This weekend, Ron Green Jr. from Global Golf Post on what the future might look like for the PGA Tour
ESPN's Joe Buck on his love of the game

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Golf Show. I'm John Patrick. Back from a couple of
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show this morning. With the regular season coming to an
end last week and Tommy Fleetwood's very popular win at
the Tour Championship, we are turning our attention to the future. Yes,
there's a Ryder Cup in a few weeks and a
schedule of fall events, but a lot of attention is
being paid to further down the road the next few years.

(02:58):
The new CEO Tour Enterprises, Brian Rolap, addressed the media
last week with an eye toured what's coming down the road.
Ron Green Junior from Global Golf Post was in the room.
He's written a piece in this week's post about what
could be coming. Ron will be here in a few
minutes for an extended conversation on the change that looks

(03:19):
like it's in the offing. Then after Ron, it's our
annual visit with our buddy Joe Buck from Monday Night
Football in ESPN. Now, Joe loves golf, plays golf a lot,
and for the last nine years or so has been
great about hopping on the phone and having a conversation
before his workload really ramps up on Monday nights. So

(03:42):
that's the show for this morning, some insight as to
what may be down the road for the PGA Tour,
and just a guy who loves playing the game of golf.
As always, I will let you know where to find
the golf on TV this weekend. It is starting to
slack off a little bit in the fall. In addition,
if there's time this morning and our Why I Love

(04:04):
the Game segment, the unbelievable Bernhard Langer, who turns sixty
eight years old earlier this week, will tell us why
he loves the game of golf. Okay, coming up ESPN's
Joe Buck. But first Ron Green Junior on what changes
might be in store for the PGA Tour. Stay right there,

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Speaker 2 (08:11):
Good morning, and welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show.
I'm John Patrick. Ron Green Junior has been covering the
professional game for more than thirty years, just like his
dad before him. Now that includes nearly ninety major championships.
Ron's a past president of the Golf Writers' Association of
America and he currently covers the game for Global Golf Post.

(08:33):
He is gracious this morning joining us while he's on
his vacation. It's a pleasure to welcome Ron Green Junior
back to the Augusta Golf Show. Or are you Ron?

Speaker 11 (08:45):
I'm happy to be joining You've been joining a little
time at the beach here before, between the Tour Championship
and the Ryder Cup and football season and everything, so
good to take a few minutes to chat.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, thank you for doing this. We'll cover most of that.
Let's go back to the Tour Championship. Heard from Brian
roll app for maybe the first time in detail last week.
Give me some takeaways. What did you think of what
he had to say?

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Well, first of.

Speaker 11 (09:12):
All, I thought he was impressive his first time. I've
been around him, and you heard all the you know,
a lot of good things as he sort of settled
into this role. I think, you know, it was impressive
because he's only been in the job or as of
last week, barely three weeks or whatever, and quite the
you know, he's got a lot to sort of download

(09:34):
here quickly, and the sort of the onboarding process. But
to hear him talk about how many players he talked
to and the way he's going about trying to get
get a full understanding of it, I think you know,
he's aggressive in that way. I think everybody you talked
to who's talked to him has come away similarly impressed.

(09:56):
I think you know, when he got asked questions in
the press conference, if he couldn't answer him, he wasn't
afraid to tell you, hey, I don't know him, I'm
new to this. Give me time. I'll answered later when
I know more about it. I also when he knew things,
I mean, he would take you to a point, but
you know he didn't just sort of laughs into corporate
speak and all that. He's sort of efficient that way.

(10:17):
I think he gets to the point and you can
tell he.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Has a lot of.

Speaker 11 (10:23):
A lot of ideas about what to change, And I
think change is an interesting word. I think he wants
to refine what the PGA Tour is and what it
can be. And I think there are others on board
with him. You know, my sense is it's going to
look significantly different in a couple of years from what
it does now. But if you ask me specifically what

(10:46):
those things are, I can't tell you. But I think
changes in the air.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, Okay, I know you can't be specific, but I
also know when something like last week happens, we all
sit around and talk about what might happen. Do you
get some sort of sense of what might change?

Speaker 11 (11:05):
Well, I think, first of all, I mean he's made
no secret. I think he wants to condense the schedule.
I think he would like to know what the NFL
and I'm just paraphrasing him, but what the NFL's done
brilliantly is make every game matter, even if the games
are not. You know, the Chiefs against the Bills. I
mean they've made them events. And I think there's a

(11:27):
feeling there may be too many pg Tour events. I mean,
they're there for charity, there's a lot, you know, it
matters in each community they go to. But I think
trying to take it and squeeze it and make sure
everything means a little more than maybe it has right now.
I think he wants to do that. I mean, I've
heard suggestions that maybe they won't start the season till

(11:48):
the last week of January. Again, I think things are
just being thrown out there. Maybe they do that and
still try. I like that they end before Labor Day,
they get out of the way of football. I think
they would be open to maybe if they start in
January playing during the week instead of on weekends, because
we all know how giant football is and what it means.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think.

Speaker 11 (12:12):
I think I heard somebody with the tour tell me
that he's used the term owned the summer. I think
they want to take more advantage of sort of the
window they have in June, maybe in July when other
sports are not at their peak interest and the golf
could take over there. Would he change his schedule, would
he shake it up and put the Florida events first

(12:35):
and say let's go back to California or later and
do all that. I think, as other people said, everything
is on the table.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, then let me follow up on that with some
of the news we heard from from the RNA and
Augusta National, and one of the things kind of hidden
in the press release was the National won't be inviting
players from the from the Fall events. Do you think
the Fall events are in jeopardy?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I do.

Speaker 11 (13:02):
I'll be here, should see where it goes. I think
they have you know, they're sort of this probably sounds wrong,
but like a subcategory now anyway, because everything leads through
the tour Championship and then you know, you don't see
the Scottie sists. This year is going to be different
because of pro Corps in because the Ryder Cup and
wanted to get those guys out there. They're going to
go to NAPA. But most years, you know, the Jordan'spach,

(13:23):
Justin Thomas and Rory, Scottie Scheffern, they're not playing after
Labor Day. If they are, they're playing somewhere overseas at
Wentworth or whatever. So I think they sort of operated
on that. I'm not surprised to Gusta decided not to
give those tournament winners automatic spots. I think I like
what they did with these National opens, that they're gonna
under the winners there I think I think it would

(13:47):
be room for events in the fall, but they may
be structured differently. I'm not sure that it's gonna how
they would fall under a PGA Tour umbrella. I think
it could be we're going to play it right up
to the Tour Championship and that's the end. If you've
made your points, fine, If you haven't, well, here are
ways you can go qualify for Cornfiirry or whatever. But

(14:10):
you know, I think there's a lot of things that,
you know, remain to be sorted out. But with that
future Competitions Committee and being headed by somebody like Tiger
and then can't lay there. I think these are guys
who are very much on the side of you need
to play well, you need to earn it, and they
and Brian roll up he's talking about meritocracy and golf
the ultimate meritocracy. Will you know the old argument is,

(14:34):
well we should let one hundred and fifty players into
each field. Well, if they cut the field, you know
the argument as well, just play better to get in.
I do think they're going to cut players side field sizes.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to maybe
one hundred and twenty five for most tournaments.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
We're talking with Ron Green here on the Augusta Golf Show.
I'm asking you run not necessarily from the overarching aspect.
Do you think the tour would benefit by going away
after you know, spending four months off and like having
an off season.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
Well, as I sit here days before kickoff to college
football season and counting down the days the NFL season,
you think about how much you miss it. And now again,
the NFL in particular is a different creature. But I've
always said I want golf to go away long enough
for me to miss it and want it back. That said,

(15:26):
I mean a personal marge. I have grown accustomed almost
every weekend being able to turn the television. I want
to watch golf on Saturday and Sunday if I want to,
or now Thursday and Friday. But I do think there's
going to be, you know, to use Brian Rolabs words scarcity.
I think he wants to create that. He wants to
fuel the demand by taking some away, and we all

(15:50):
know how that works. I mean, people will come back
to it quicker. I don't think the fans you're trying
to gather you're not getting in the fall anyway. But
I think when you enhance what you have in the
media of your season, that's where the focus will be.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You mentioned Tiger and the competition committee. What do you
think and you mentioned field sizes. Are those the kinds
of things you think the Competition Committee will deal with?

Speaker 11 (16:19):
I think so. I think they will look at field sizes.
I think they will look at uh, they will look
at the schedule. What's beneficial. You know, Uh, there's been
a lot of talk about the schedule next year. You're
gonna have a six week period where you're gonna have
three signature events and two major championships. You know, Dessert Classical.
New Orleans is in a really, really tough spot now

(16:42):
because you know you're gonna play August, You're gonna play Hilpinhead,
You're gonna take a week on. I mean, you're gonna
have New Orleans, then you're gonna have Miami, which I'm
still shocked is on the schedule. Then you're gonna have
Truist and Charlotte. Then you're gonna have the VGA Championship.
That's a lot of golf for guys to play. I mean,
you know, it's never going to be like NASCAR where
everybody shows up every week, but these are weeks that
it's hard to take off that We've seen Rory and

(17:04):
Scottie Scheffer and some guys take some signature events off.
But I think Brian roll Up wants to push to
the point to try to have those guys more not less.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Do you think do you think Ron they'll fiddle and
they always do fiddle with the playoff format?

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I do.

Speaker 11 (17:27):
I think that's under I thought the way it worked
last week with the Tour Championship was really good. Just
all right, here we are thirty of you go chase
and see who wins. I mean, you know, there's any
number of examples people keep citing that does just because
you have a playoff doesn't mean the best player of
that season or the best team has to win. I mean,
you can look at the people are citing the Texas

(17:48):
Rangers two years ago, you know, the New York Giants
getting in as a wild card, beating the unbeaten Patriots,
things like that. I mean, the Virginia Cavaliers are the
number one seed in the n CAA Tournament a few
years ago and didn't get out of the first So
I like that part of it. I like, if they
want to cut, you can almost make it a four
week thing, win them becoming sort of the de facto

(18:08):
fourth playoff event, trying to get into the top seventy
there and then you know, you go to Memphis and
if you're not in the top fifty, it doesn't matter.
If you're first, second, thirteen points, you're out, and same
cutting down to thirty. I think that would be worth
a try because I wrote something last week that the
part of the struggle of the Tour Championship has had

(18:30):
is every time we go there, the conversation is about
the format or the points or something other than who
might win. It's about how might they change it? What's
you know, should they move it away from East Lake.
You know, they got great ratings this week because they
had the right winner, and I think golfs in a
nice little television role.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
But I think.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (18:52):
They're not going to change it next year, but I
would not be surprised if there's a substantial reworking of
the playoff structure. I think there's been enough conversation about
rotating the Torch Championship away from Atlanta instead of every year. Granted,
they've you got Southern Company and Coca Cola. They have
obviously huge roots there in Atlanta, but I mean they
sell Coca Cola on the West coast too. And I

(19:15):
think if you could put the finale at Harding Park
or or Wild Dreams, put it at Bandon Dunes and
have it on a prime time the last week of August, uh,
I think that could be really cool. So I think
they will look a look at that like they're looking
at everything else and the other aspect of it. I

(19:37):
think you've got theo Epstein on the committee, and you know,
look what he did to you know, with baseball. He
got baseball to buy into changing some things. I mean
it was not they still play nine innings, but you know,
they changed the tenth thing rule, they changed the pitch
clock and all that stuff, and it made baseball better.
I mean, I was at a baseball game at the

(19:58):
Tour Championship. Took two hours one minute. Now, I know
that's still faster than normal, but they help baseball, I think,
and I think golf is open to those things. I
don't really want to see a shot clock out there,
but I think, you know, pushing pacer play and things
like that they're all going to be there.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
I mean, so I.

Speaker 11 (20:20):
Really am interested to see what it looks like twelve
eighteen months from now.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, you know what, great time right here to take
a break. We're going to continue with Ron in a
few minutes and Joe Buck coming up a little bit
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The National was in the news this week with the
announcement that they were, in their words, aligning aspects of
the qualification criteria for the Masters and the Open Championship
with the RNA, with both tournaments immediately awarding invitations to
winners and top finishers of select national opens. Starting now,

(21:08):
the winners of the Scottish Open, the Spanish Open, the
Japan Open, the Hong Kong Open, the Australian Open and
the South African Open will receive invitations to both tournaments.
One of the byproducts of this announcement is that the
winners of the fall events on the PGA Tour will
no longer receive automatic invitations to the Masters. Oh, there's

(21:31):
some tough news coming out of Hawaii that might affect
the century. In January, we're learning that the Plantation Course
at Kappolua is closing temporarily because it's been deemed unplayable
at the elite level. Severe water restrictions in West Maui
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Beginning next week, the Plantation and Bay Courses will be
closed for two months in an attempt to get the
courses back in shape. Timetable is going to be tough,
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Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm John Patrick.
I want to continue my conversation with Ron Green Junior
from Global Golf Posts. Still a couple of things I
want to cover. Ron, picking up on something you were
talking about before we took our break. It sounds like
to me, you're pretty sure Eastlake won't continue to be
the only venue for the Tour Championship. Am I am?

(26:26):
I reading You're right.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
I just have the sense that there's been enough talk
about it that they might rotate it. Maybe you go
there every two years, every three years or something. But
you know, again, sponsors have a big say in it,
and it came off really well this time. I think,
you know, with Blee would and you look, I think
I saw the biggest viewership numbers outside of major championship

(26:49):
this year, So maybe that's one of those things. Well,
it doesn't appear to be that broken, so maybe you
leave it there. You know, I think Eastlake is it's
a wonderful golf, and I like the changes they made.
I don't know if it has a lot of the
risk reward you might want coming down the stretch. I mean,
nothing's quite going to be like what to get around
Amen corner or what you get into the Players Championship

(27:12):
things like that. But so, but I think it's on
the table, and in fact, I know it's on the table.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
You mentioned this earlier. Do you get a sense again
from being there? Twenty six is kind of set, but
twenty seven do you think that's soon? We may see
major changes?

Speaker 11 (27:29):
I would think so. I think he I mean Rollae
alluded to him more than wants that. He wants to
be proactive and be aggressive. I don't think he wants
to just sit around and wait. I think you know
they've got this billion and a half to invest from SSG,
and that I think that will be invested in different ways.
I think they want to take over the operation of

(27:49):
as many tournaments as they can and run them from
the tour, will own the tour, not you know, if
Phoenix owns its event or somebody else operates theres I think,
you know, I've seen it in Charlotte with Truest now
being a part of championship management. I think that's one
of the things they're looking to do.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think.

Speaker 11 (28:09):
It's, you know, I think the model is thing said
they the charity thing is not going away. But I
think rather than being a nonprofit first date are now
make no secrets, we're a for profit enterprise and I
think a lot of decisions will be driven through that.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Lens a couple of other things before I let you
go the news made earlier this week, Kegan made his
choices for the Ryder Cup. JT. Morikawa, Ben Griffin, Young,
Patrick Cantley, Sam Burns. First of all, did anything surprise you?

Speaker 11 (28:43):
Well, I don't know if surprise. I was not going
to be surprised either way, had Keegan Bradley picked himself
or as he ultimately chose not to. I think I
kept saying I thought he was going to play because
I thought if you asked me the twelve best players, he's.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
One of them.

Speaker 11 (28:59):
Granted, we're in the unique situation of him being where
he was, and I totally agree as I listened to
him talk about it. His decision was made easier when
Sam Burns and Cam Young in particular started playing well
late in the year. You know, we just talk about
trying to find the hot hands and those sorts of things.
Those guys helped make his decision for him. He said,

(29:23):
you know, he had not really thought about being there
playing a playing captain until he won Travelers, and you know,
he was sort of in it for a while. But
I think he understood maybe the best course of action
would be for him to just maintain his.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Role as captain.

Speaker 11 (29:40):
I would have had no problem with him as a
playing captain. I just think what he brings, he's still
going to bring that. But I think, you know, I mean,
if they lose now and he will be second guess like, oh,
you should have put yourself on the team instead of
somebody who ends up not playing well, that will come.
But if he had played and they lost, then he

(30:01):
was going to get the double whammy. But you know,
I mean, if they lose, he didn't care, he's going
to feel miserble about.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
One way or the other.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
It was.

Speaker 11 (30:09):
It was a fascinating scenario. You know, I just felt like, again,
I would have picked him, but I understand why he
didn't pick himself.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Do you think do you think we fueled that fire
more than he was thinking about doing it.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Well.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
I think, as he said, he didn't really count himself
among the players who were going to be a player,
because he just didn't put himself there.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
But I think.

Speaker 11 (30:41):
As he played better, I mean, he had a really
good season he said was one of the best seasons
of his career, and so something he's thrust into it.
I meant, one point he was seventh or eighth in
the points. It's like, you know, we're going to take
the best players. We're staring one in the face. Now
he played better and he's like, I think it tailed
off a little bit and the set toward the latter
part of the season. But I got to believe all

(31:03):
this was starting to weigh on him, and you know,
he's do I don't know what should that do. And
I think he took the counsel of you know, Kevin
Kisner and Jim Furick and Webb and Woodland and all
those guys who are his vice captains, and you know,
I think they would have supported him either way.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
I think.

Speaker 11 (31:22):
Not that he chose this, but it is the path
of least resistance. It's the it was the task he
was given and now he gets to fulfill that and
I think he will do it with a clearhead and
clear conscious.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
I would just.

Speaker 11 (31:34):
Say, you know, now that it's done, don't look back.
You know this is you do your best at the time,
You make the decision you think is best, and you
roll with it. And he's got a formidable challenge ahead
of him because that European team is really really good.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Do you think Luke Donald and the European team were
kind of quietly secretly going to play play keygn come
on and play well.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
I found it interesting that when Rory made his comments
that you can't do both, and Keegan said, well, how
would he know, No, he's not done it.

Speaker 17 (32:05):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
You know, I think, at.

Speaker 11 (32:07):
Least from my British colleagues in the media, they all
thought it was a terrible idea for Keith and Bradley
to possibly be playing captain.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
You know, I've never been in that role.

Speaker 11 (32:17):
I've never done it, but I don't know. I mean,
I think you could do both. I mean I talked
to Paul Azinger said I almost picked. I thought about
picking myself in two thousand and eight. Uh, he said,
you can do both.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
But uh, they're there.

Speaker 11 (32:31):
I'm amazed by how much they put into every little decision,
although I would bet your money is sitting right here
right now, they already know who's going to be playing
what Friday morning, Friday at Bethpage.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Random question set set the twenty twenty six Masters. Aside,
has Tiger played in his last PGA Tour event.

Speaker 11 (32:59):
I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to play Genesis again.
I think that one, you know, means a lot to
him because of his involvement. Yeah, I think he's going
to play majors when he can, but I don't know
that we're going to see him in a regular tour
event outside of maybe Genesis. I think now if we

(33:23):
throw in champions events where he might be able to
ride a car with his buddies once or twice a year,
we might see some of those. But it's you know,
I mean, he's gotten so involved in doing other things
and now in this role with the tour, you almost
have forgotten about him as a player, just because he
hasn't been able to play for so long or you know,

(33:43):
play regularly that I mean, it would be lovely to
think we're going to see him a few more times,
but it's not going to be many times.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
I don't think.

Speaker 11 (33:51):
I just don't know that he's going to be.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
Able to do it. I would love to be proven
wrong about that, but.

Speaker 11 (33:57):
I'm hopeful, but I don't know how optimistic.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I know you mentioned, you know, riding a card playing
with his buddies. But do you think he'd be enticed
by a Senior Open.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (34:08):
I think that would be the one. I think to
become the first guy to win the Junior the Am,
the US Open and a Senior Am. I think that
would be something out there on the horizon that he
would like to chase.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
He is Ron Green. He covers the game for Global
Golf Post, and he's a great guy because he's on
his vacation right now. Ron, thank you so very much
for doing this. I deeply appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
Thank you, happy to do it.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Always enjoy catching up with you, John.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Thank you. Ron. There you go, Ron Green Junior. You
can read Ron's work at Global Golf Post, available at
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Speaker 2 (39:34):
Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm John Patrick.
Joe Buck began calling Saint Louis Cardinals baseball games thirty
four years ago. He started calling NFL games for Fox
thirty one years ago. He and Troy Aikman are about
to begin their fourth season calling Monday Night Football for ESPN.

(39:56):
You know, you never know where Joe is going to
show up. Month or so ago, he co hosted Good
Morning America. It's a pleasure to welcome Joe Buck back
to the Augusta Golf Show.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
How are you, Joe, I'm great. It's good to hear
your voice again.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Have you been I've been okay, I've been good. You've
been good.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
I think so. I'm ready to go back to work.
I mean, we're knocking on the door of another NFL season,
and gosh, I can't wait to I can't wait to
get out of the house. Basically is what I'm saying.
Whether it was to go do football or you know whatever,

(40:35):
do a mail route, I'm ready to I'm ready to
go back to.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Work, all right with that is how the GMA thing happened.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
Kind of a freak thing. We went there try and
I went there in May on a schedule release thing,
and I went on with Robin Roberts in the morning
and we were promoting a game that we're having in November,
which is kind of crazy Philadelphia Green Bay game. And
as we got up and we were leaving, Robin Roberts said, hey,

(41:05):
you know love having you on. You know, said it
to both of us, and I said, kind of, you know,
as on a whim, I said, hey, if you if
you ever need a fill in host, I'll be your guy.
And by the end of the day they had reached
out and it just kind of came to pass. It's

(41:25):
a great feeling to do something on TV or really,
I guess anywhere in life where you're doing a different
job but you have no design or desire to do
that job full time, so you can just kind of
go in there and have fun. I didn't feel like
it was an audition. I didn't feel like, you know, boy,

(41:47):
I got to show him something here. It was kind
of like a one off. I may go back a
couple of times during the season just to you know,
now that they know me and I know them, to
kind of help promote money. That's football. But it was
just kind of a something to do, and I'm glad
I did it. They were great and very welcoming. But again,

(42:08):
I mean getting up at four thirty in the morning
is not anything I have a desire to do on
a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I do it every morning at four.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
Yeah. Man, well, I don't know how anybody. I have
friends that, even if they don't go to work, get
up and work out at you know, before the kids
get up and all that. I just I think my
whole body clock got wired, maybe permanently, by doing night
to night baseball. And when you get to work at

(42:37):
you know, call it four pm, and you get out
of work in kind of a high stress or high
energy thing at whatever, ten thirty eleven, get home at midnight.
It's sometimes it's hard to go to bed. You do
a world series and you're back in the hotel wherever
you are at you know, twelve thirty one o'clock in

(42:59):
the morning. Then it's like, okay, I got to kind
of come down from all that, get a little bit
of work done, and now I'm going to bed at
two o'clock, and I'm going The last thing you want
to do is get up at four o'clock and start
you know, pumping iron. So I'm I'm I think I'm
a night owl as I've gotten older.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
You know, I mentioned you and Troy working as long
as you have, and I'm also thinking about all of
the other analysts with whom you've worked. How does the
analyst make you better at what you do?

Speaker 7 (43:28):
I think when you know that they're prepared, which Troy
is beyond, there's a comfort factor in knowing that no
matter what I throw at them, they're going to have
something to say. And some of that comes with, you know,
conversations you have when you get on site. Some of

(43:50):
it comes with working the relationship and kind of knowing
their view of the world, whether it's the NFL or
the world around them or whatever. Some of it is
having a relationship where if you say something that's kind
of poking at them a little bit, they know it's
good natured and you're not trying to embarrass them. You're

(44:12):
trying to make the broadcast more interesting. And then when
you have somebody that you stand next to that knows
what it's like to take a snap in a Super
Bowl as a quarterback, that's a great luxury and you know,
I got to do it in Baseball with Tim for
eighteen years, Tim McCarver with John Smoltz for six years.

(44:35):
Being able to get real feel and information from somebody
who's done it at the highest stage, are on the
biggest stage at the highest level is a gift, and
I don't take it for granted. And they've got a
perspective I can never have. And so if you know that,

(44:55):
then you kind of go in knowing kids, they're the expert.
I made no name and numbers and stats and storylines
and whatever. But if they're the expert, treat it that way,
and you know, get out of that expert what you know.
Hopefully the audience wants to hear for a given situation
or on a player. And I know that that he's

(45:17):
so prepared and have has watched all the film that
he needs to watch that I know where to go
and where not to go with him. And you know,
when it works that way and you have somebody that
you trust and they trust you, there's just nothing better
in the business that we're in.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
We're talking with Joe Buck here on the Augusta Golf Show.
You mentioned high level of excellence, So let me take
that to golf. Tell me what you think when you
watch Scotti Scheffler play golf, I see.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
A methodical approach. I see a guy who is really
Every once in a while you see the temper come out,
but not much. I was just I was just working
with a buddy on my golf swing and we were
talking about Scotty and he said, every ball he hits
on the range or on the practice tee, if you

(46:10):
want to go to Usga lingo, it takes him fourteen
point six seconds to hit the ball because he has
the club in front of his face, he gets his grip,
he goes in, he takes his time, he does his
waggle or his pre shot, and wham, the ball's gone.
And whether he's standing on a practice tee or he's

(46:31):
on the eighteenth hole at the Open, it's the same.
And so there is a there is a methodical approach
that makes him great. And I think, no matter what
the sport is, you know, the great free throw shooters
are the same way. They they have a routine and
they stick to it to the point where somebody like me,

(46:52):
you're always looking to change it up, or you lose
interest or you lose focus or whatever it is. There
is another level of concentration in folks that makes that
game different, not just obviously for everybody on that tour,
but I think even to some degree for him compared
to everybody else on that tour. So, I you know,

(47:12):
I don't think golf makes his world go around. I
think he's genuine when he talks about the importance of
family and he puts things in perspective. But there is
just a consistent hum of awesomeness that he puts into
his game of golf that you know makes him number
one and the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Can you explain to me, Joe, why there was even
any blowback about what he said about family and priorities.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
I can't. You know that that's kind of what I
want to see in my heroes perspective. I want to
see that in my friends. I want to see that
in my spouse. I want to see that in my parents.
I want to see that. You know, hopefully my kids
see that in me. I think, you know, having a

(48:06):
healthy perspective. While some people take that, well, it's got
to be all golf, you know, you can do both
at the same time. You can prioritize both at the
same time. I think it helps him play better golf.
I think his world doesn't revolve around a maid or
missed six footer, and when it doesn't, I think it
becomes easier to make the six footer. That's a crazy

(48:31):
way to make a living, crazy way to it's it's
it's something I can't even imagine. And so to have
things in perspective like that, I think it's, you know,
in a roundabout way, it makes him great, not just
as a as a guy, not just I would imagine
as a husband or a father, but as a golfer.

(48:52):
So I think it. I think a lot of people
miss the point of that whole thing, and that's too
bad because I think, you know, say what you want
about Rory too. These guys are genuine and they say
how they feel, and sometimes how somebody feels doesn't line
up with the common group think or groups speak, and

(49:16):
when they say something that others don't or won't, everybody goes, WHOA,
I can't can you believe? And then somebody, even well
respected writers, will say and Twitter reacted, well, who cares.
Twitter reacts on everything, so of course Twitter reacted. It happened,
if it happened, Twitter reacted, and some people are going

(49:39):
to like it, and some people are going to not
like it. Some people are going to be nice and
some people are going to be mean. And how that
makes its way into any legitimate writer's article, I think
is complete laziness. So I tip my cap to the
ones who are willing to say stuff that others aren't
because it it just makes things a more interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
With your schedule and with Saint Louis weather, is your
golf done for the year?

Speaker 7 (50:08):
No, no, oh, no, golf is going to ramp back up.
The boys My seven year old start school on Tuesday,
and I will do the drop off, then try to
work out, and then go stand on a range and
get my peace of mind and my kind of moments

(50:30):
of zen on a driving range. I don't play a
ton of golf, but I hit a billion golf balls
and it's as much for therapy and meditation as it
is for anything else. So no, this is a good
time now. September is good. October is good. I mean,
the heat index of one hundred and ten is not

(50:52):
exactly fun to play golf in, but I will. But
it's about to get a lot better around here.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Thirteen and a half seconds between each shot.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
No, it depends on you know what I have to
drink in the cart. How tired I am walking to
my ball. No, I would guarantee you I've never hit
two shots back to back with the same amount of
time between shots.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's Joe Buck Monday Night Football ramping up. I always
appreciate you taking the time to do this. Joe, Thank you,
thank you, thanks so much.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Great to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Here you go. That is Joe Buck. Monday Night Football
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Speaker 2 (55:06):
Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm John Patrick.
It's time for our Why I Love the Game segment
portion of the show where somebody tells us why the
game of golf is so important and so meaningful in
their life. This morning, he is just unbelievable. Two time
Masters winner, the winningest player in the history of the
PGA Tour, Champions Tour. He turned sixty eight years old

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earlier this week. One and only Bernhard Longer tells us
why he still loves the game of golf.

Speaker 18 (55:40):
Oh, it's always a challenge, it's always fascinating. It is
never the same. You're playing a different golf course, a
different pole, with different wins, and it's really a challenge
against yourself because you're playing against yourself and the course,
not so much against the field. And it's just you know,

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every day you swing slightly different year, have a different
lie and face different shuts and it just never gets going.
It's fascinating to me and conways to get up there.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
The one and only Bernhard Longer and why he still
loves the game of golf. Well, that's the show for
this morning. I do want to thank my guests, Ron
Green Junior and Joe Buck. Thank you for taking the
time to listen. Please make sure the other members of
your foursome know about the program. Tell them when it's
on the radio, but remind them these days. Show is

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Show after that this morning, Mary, Liz, ab Avery and
I will be back Tuesday morning at five point thirty.

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Have a great weekend, enjoy the holiday. Thank you for
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stay well and please stay safe, and I will see
you next time. So long, bye bye.

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