Augusta Golf Show/Angela Stanford, Curtis Strange & Dan Hicks

This weekend, Angela Stanford on being named the 2026 US Solhiem Cup Captain

Curtis Strange & Dan Hicks preview the 2025 MASTERS

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three great guests. We're packed. We'll start with an old friend,

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Angelas Stanford won seven times on the LPGA Tour, including
a major championship. She played on six Solheim Cup teams.
Last week, she was named the captain of the twenty
twenty six US Solheim Cup team. I could not be
happier for my friend. She's here this morning. We will

(02:50):
talk to her in just a couple of minutes. Then
we're gonna get started with our Master's previews. Curtis Strange
is a two time major champion. He's going to be
part of ESPN's Master's coverage in a couple of weeks.
Curtis will be here to give us his thoughts on
what he is expecting at the tournament, and then finally

(03:12):
this morning. He has been busy for the last few weeks.
Dan Hicks has been anchoring NBC's golf coverage over the
last month, players included. He will join us to talk
about what has taken place and what he is expecting
at the Masters. So it's a busy show this morning.
Angela Stanford, Curtis Strange, and Dan Hicks. As always, I'll

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let you know where to find the golf on TV
this weekend. And if we have time this morning and
our Why I Love the Game segment, NBC's Gary Koch
will tell us why he loves the game of golf. Okay,
coming up Dan Hicks from NBC World Golf Hall of
Famer Curtis Strange. But first the twenty twenty six US

(03:56):
Solheim Cup captain Angela Stanford. Stay right there. Thanks for
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Speaker 2 (07:53):
Good morning, and welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show.
I'm John Patrick, our buddy Angelas Stanford one seven time
times out on the LPGA Tour, including a major championship,
the twenty eighteen Evion Championship played on six Solheim Cup
teams and now and now she's going to captain the
twenty twenty six US Solheim Cup team. It is a

(08:16):
pleasure to say this and to welcome Captain Stanford back
to the Augustic Golf Show. And how are you?

Speaker 11 (08:24):
I'm great that I like the way that sounds Captain Stanford.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Congratulations, Thank you. When this sort of thing happens, how
far in advance do you know before the announcement? Did
you have to sit on this news for any time?

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Actually?

Speaker 11 (08:42):
I did. I found out I got the phone call Friday,
January seventeenth, and we announced it March twentieth, So yeah,
I had to sit on it for a couple months.
And yeah it was tough at times, but I think
it actually also helped because it gave me some time

(09:04):
to tell my family and friends and you know, just
get get prepared for the big announcement.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Was it something that you, you know, always wanted to do.

Speaker 11 (09:15):
You know, that's an interesting question. I think most people
would be yes, and obviously yes, this is something you
always want to do. But I think the other thing
you have to learn along the way is are you
willing to you know, put in the time it's a
huge responsibility. Do you want to say yes to that?
I mean, everybody wants to say yes to being a captain,

(09:38):
but do you want to say yes to all the
details and all the all the things that you need
to do to get to get your team prepared? And
you know, so I think it's a big responsibility. And
I really didn't know until I left Spain in twenty
twenty three that I was ready and I wanted to
do it.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
A little bit about that, and you've been an assistant captain?
How important is doing something like that when it comes
to assuming this role.

Speaker 11 (10:08):
Being an assistant captain is extremely important if you want
to be a captain. You know, there were so many
things that and I would say, you know, for me,
I'm so glad I had three times. You know, I'm
so glad I was an assistant three times. Some people
just need one go around, you know. But I there
were so many things that I learned in twenty one

(10:31):
that you know, there was still more. There were still
the way I looked at being an assistant in twenty
three and then twenty four because I already knew kind
of what was coming now. I say, when you're a player,
you're worried about yourself. When you're an assistant or a captain,
you're worried about twelve plus everybody else. So there's so
much to take in. There's so much organizing in that.

(10:53):
So I'm glad I did it three times. I'm you know,
so I needed to learn all that and really fortunate
that that I could do that. Then assistant three times.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well and doing it three times a little different. You
you you got to see how two different captains worked, right,
I did.

Speaker 11 (11:13):
And you know, with Pat, she was coming off of COVID.
There were so many things that Pat didn't get to control,
and I it was it was tough. And and again
that was seeing you know, a Solheim that we hopefully
never see something like that again, so, you know, and
then Spain felt a little more normal, and then twenty

(11:33):
four in Virginia felt like, Okay, this is this is
what normal looked like for a Solheim Cup. So to
get to watch Pat, you know, take on, you know,
making decisions and then having to just kind of deal
with things the way they are, and then you know
Spacey and her personality. So I feel like I got
to see the whole spectrum of captains with Pat and Spacey.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Be it Solheim Cup, Righter Cup, President's Cup, Curtis Cup,
Walker Cup. What is it about this team play? What
is it that once you make a team, you never
not want to make a.

Speaker 11 (12:09):
Team, you know, I say it changed the way I
played on LPGA Tour. I think you play an individual
sport weekend and week out. It's the one time that
you get to be a part of a team in
a golf setting where it's usually an individual sport. And
I played team sports growing up. I love being on

(12:30):
the team. When I missed the Solheim Cup in two
thousand and five, I changed, you know, my instructor, I
changed my trainer, I changed the way I went about
my job. I never wanted to miss another Solheim Cup. So,
you know, for me, it I feel like it made
me a better LPGA Tour player.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We're talking with Angela Stanford here on the Augusta Golf Show. Okay,
you said you knew in January announcement in March is
there did your mind wander where you're starting to do
captainy things?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
You know?

Speaker 11 (13:03):
I didn't let myself go there, you know, and I
had friends ask me, you know, what would you do
if you did, you know where you are? You are
you thinking about the Netherlands. And I'm like, look, I'm
not going to allow myself to think any of that
until I get a phone call, because it's gonna crush
me anyways if I don't, you know, if they don't

(13:25):
give me that phone call. So no, I did not
let myself go down that road. I just kind of
waited and I got pretty anxious, anxious that week in January.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
But yeah, as you mentioned, it's in the Netherlands, it's
next year. Have you spoken to Anna?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I have.

Speaker 11 (13:46):
We had the opportunity to be out in Phoenix this
last week doing some some media stuff, and look, I
have a tremendous amount of respect for Anna as a
human being first off, and then as a player. Everybody knows,
you know, how great she is. So yeah, we got
to spend a little bit of time together, and you know,
I think we're on the same page when it comes

(14:08):
to what can we do to elevate this event? What
can we do to elevate women's golf, like that is
our ultimate goal and whatever we can do to get
there is our main priority.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know, we in the media speculate a lot about
what it's like to be the away team in these
sort of things. What is the biggest challenge about being
the away team and these sorts of things.

Speaker 11 (14:31):
I think it's you're always a little uncomfortable, you know.
You you don't have all the fans on your side,
You're not staying in a hotel it's familiar. The food's
not familiar. The time, you know, the where you are
in the world is not familiar, you know. So I
think everything about it is a little uncomfortable, and you know,

(14:56):
I love it. I wanted to be a captain overseas.
I am really excited about the challenge to try to
get our team to a spot where they can be
comfortable enough to go out and play their best.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
The Netherlands not not, I would guess not. A whole
lot of players who are going to play on this
team have played in the Netherlands. Is that something a
little bit different?

Speaker 11 (15:21):
Yeah, you know, And I remember I got to spend
some time with John Soheim this last week and I said,
you know, John, this is like really cool. You're going
to a new country. You know, we've been to Sweden obviously,
been to Spain, Ireland, but you know, to go into
a new country like this and take the Solheim Cup

(15:43):
to on a world stage, to a new country in
Europe is a big deal and I think that's important
for the Sohim family and you know, just to continue
to grow the game. So, yeah, it is a new
country that we're going to play in, and I'm not
sure you're right. Not many of these players have ever
played there. I hope to go, you know, a week out,
so let's say September of twenty twenty five. I hope

(16:08):
to make the trip over and get to see the
golf course.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
So yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Can you anticipate? Do you think there's a chance of
getting the players there? And it's can you? Can you
play there before? I mean, can you see a way
that everybody gathers.

Speaker 11 (16:27):
I think this this day and age, I just I
don't would I love that, Yes, I would love for
all of our players to see it before, But I've
learned quite a bit over the last you know, five
so years, and I just think sometimes some people don't
find any advantage in that. You know, I think with

(16:48):
I always wanted to see it. I was the kind
of player that the more I can see it, the better.
It's kind of like preparing for US opens. You know,
some players will say, well, the conditions won't be the same,
So it on what your priority is and how you
prepare for a golf course. But I'm I'm ready for
our players to say, you know, I just I don't

(17:08):
think I can get there until week of and so
for me, that means I need to go play it.
That means I need to try to communicate everything I
can to our players. You know, what type of shots
they're going to need to hit, what does it look like,
you know, just what's the weather like. So yeah, I'm
prepared to go over there and play it to help

(17:30):
them out if they can't see it before. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That being said, with the matches next year, what does
twenty twenty five hold for you? What are your duties
in the next nine months.

Speaker 11 (17:42):
Well, we have to get our assistance named and announced.
That's that's the big next step because I need them to,
you know, start doing all these behind the scenes thing,
behind the scenes things. So this year is going to
be a lot of you know, let's order the bags,
let's order to close, Let's get everything ordered that we
need so that way, you know, next year we can

(18:04):
solely really start focusing in on golf and stuff like that.
But you know, we have the luxury of having a
year or here where we can take a deep breath.
And you know, I've already told some of the players.
You know, they're just going to kind of give you
a breather. They've had a lot going on the last
four or five years. They've played three Solheims in four years.
That is unheard of. It's never happened in history. So

(18:27):
you know, I'm I'm going to do my best kind
of take a step back from them and you know,
let them have as normal of an LPGA year as
they can have, and I'm going to try to be
getting things done behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Ken, Can I reach out to you during the year
and you come back on the show.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 (18:44):
We're we're we're forever friends here.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes, we are on It's been a long time. She
is Angelas Stanford and she is the twenty twenty six
US Solheim Cup team captain. I'm proud of you and
thanks for doing this, Thank you for saying yes.

Speaker 11 (19:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (19:01):
Anytime, you just let me know and I'll be more
than happy to come back.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
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Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm John Patrick.
Curtis Strange is a two time major champion with back
to back US Open championships. He is a member of
the World Golf Hall of Fame. Gonna be on the
call for ESPN at this year's Masters. It's a pleasure
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(24:28):
how are you?

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I'm good? Thanks? How y'all doing everybody there in Augusta?

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Speaker 4 (24:56):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up. It's it's you know,
we I do know know exactly what's going on in
a small town, you know, reasonably small town like that,
because I live up in North Carolina and western North Carolina,
which is part of the same storm. What was that
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for a long time as well as recovery takes a
long time, but it takes help from everyone. And I
do know Augusta Nationalists been a good neighbor, big brother,
and helped out tremendously as well as taking care of
their own business. Because the only thing I heard, John
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(25:40):
probably not noticeable to anybody other than the membership. And
you know, maybe I heard something about the sixteenth Green
a tree or two on it, but you know, you
know they'll fix that, you know, promptly. But I do
want to get there and find out all the details.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But it'll be just fine, I do know from what
I've heard from someone who I do know that if
you stand on the sixth t where you can see
down to sixteen and the cross to say the vista
is very different.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Really yeah, yeah, well this is Visus. Didn't catch my
ass playing the golf of course, the the the everything.

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Speaker 4 (26:20):
I didn't hit it in the vistas. But it was
the greens and the undulation and the golf course that
got my ass.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
All right, okay, let me let let me let me
go here with with with I'll do this carefully. You
and I are about the same age. You and I
grew up in You and I grew up in the
same city. I was well aware of you growing up.
You did not make it through Q school the first time. Uh,
kind of surprisingly to all of us, but you now

(26:47):
major champion, World Golf Hall of Fame member. Do you
remember where your head was, Curtis when you didn't make
it that first.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Time, like it was yesterday? It was It was probably,
you know, the one or two most devastating times in
my life, and sarahed my life. You know, you went
down there and you know the big, the big you know,
wall to book pushed through was the qualifying school. We

(27:16):
were in Brownsville, Texas. I'll never forget it. Six rounds
of terrible weather and I missed by a shot. I
bowe the last three holes, and I think that was
was that was as bad as anything finishing so poorly,
And you know, I thought I was incapable of playing
professional golf for there for a while. And what am
I going to do for a living? Because everything I'd

(27:36):
ever done in my life was was was energy, was
was four playing golf my whole life. Uh and uh,
but you regroup and you get your mess together and
put your boots back on and go get it. But
it was a tough dark time for us. We didn't Uh,
it wasn't It wasn't a good time because I just
played so poorly and and was expected to do well

(27:58):
and didn't.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Here's the reason I brought that up. First of all,
I apologize. Secondly, no, Secondly, what does Rory need to
do to conquer those demons? Is this? Is this more
in his game and the golf course, or is this
in his head?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
You know, if we knew that, we could solve a
lot of the world's problems. I don't know. You know,
we talk about this every year. Has been fourteen years?
How long has it been He's been trying to go
for the Slam now A long time more than And
you know, interviews like this getting me thinking about Augusta

(28:37):
like I haven't been. But it gets me back on
track and I'll get all the details in the next
three weeks. But you know, I I do sympathize with him.
I think this year is a little different because he's
playing so well. But and I'm not going to say
a word about his game being critical at all. He

(28:57):
has as tremendous talent as we all know. He won
so much so young by such a large margin. You know,
there was there was no limits to this guy. And
you know they're talking tiger s stuff. Well, it just
shows you how good Tiger was to continue to do
what he was doing. But you know, I think somehow

(29:20):
he has to get on that first tee and play
Rory McElroy golf, and that is all he has to do. Now,
you know, we have the only thing I'm gonna say,
we've seen some hiccups with his putting, and everybody goes
up and down with their putting. I don't care who
you are, but what I saw at the end of
the US Open last year, missing a couple of three

(29:42):
or four footers coming down the stretch to lose it.
It didn't sit right with me because great players don't
do that, and he is a great player, and I'm wondering,
why is it mental? The stroke looks wonderful, but maybe
there's something there that instinctively that and he's not afraid

(30:07):
at all. My gosh, it's just do you get a negative?
Do you lose a little confidence coming down the stretch?
And what do you have to do? What Augusta nationalll
do well? You have to hit second shots, precisely because
the greens demand that, and he has such an advantage
with his second shots because he hits so far and
he drops us so well. Most of the time. He

(30:29):
has an advantage coming into these greens on the first
he and then you have to make some putts. I
don't care who you are, you know, nobody's ever won
a golf tournament in their life by just striking the
golf ball. If you win a golf tournament or play well,
you have to make some putts. And obviously he makes
enough putts because he's always there every week. But I
just expect him and I and maybe this is unfair

(30:52):
for me to say this, but I expect him to
win more often because I think that much of his game,
but maybe we hold him to two highest because we're
all human, so we'll dissect it and dissect it. But
there's nobody roots harder for him than I do, because
I think it'll be an unbelievable story to win this
last absolutely, and he's such a good guy, and he's
such a good guy, and to do it at Augustin

(31:12):
National would be unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
We're talking with Curtis Strange here on the Augusta Golf Show.
How does a professional get through that scar tissue? Do
you always remember that putt?

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Curtis, Well, I think it's good to remember those things absolutely,
so you don't get a little bit too big for
your bridges. There is another side of this golf game,
and we see enough of these good players fall by
the wayside when they lose their confidence and they go
south in a hurry, and sure and shortly they're gone.

(31:44):
Those stories keep you sober, and I it's not easy,
especially if there is some kind of little thing there.
I don't think there's anything there. I just think he's
been a little bit unlucky and he just he just
as he puts his boots on and say go get him.
Sometimes you've got to be a little tougher than the

(32:04):
next guy.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
How hard is it? Okay, I'm going to get it.
I'm gonna get grief. How hard is it to win
a major compared to other tour events.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
It's just a different stage and a different golf course,
and golf courses are tougher. I just think it's a
stage that you have to be comfortable on, you know,
I wasn't. You know, even if you win, you're never
comfortable on it, because you know what it is. And
I think Augusta, and you know, I'm I'm a USGA

(32:36):
US Open guy, And I don't say that because I
played well. My dad played in numerous US Opens. It
was a big deal in my house when he came
home and brought me the hat and the bag tag
and everything like that. But but Augusta, his dream was
to play well enough in the US Open to get
in the Masters, and so that was that was a
goal out there. Uh. And so when I first went

(32:59):
to the man it was different than anything obviously I
was at Wake Forest. My gosh, it was different than
anything I'd ever imagined and been a part of, and
it still is to this day. As much of a
US Open, you know, and other majors. I'm a fan
of the Masters is different because why you play the
same golf course every year. There has such history and

(33:22):
tradition there and you know it. And I think that's
part of the the aura of Augusta National for players
that you know what's happened here. You know what's happened
on the backside over the years. You know what Jack
did at forty six years old. You know Arnold won
four of them. You know when Tiger won was six
of them. I mean, you know what's happened. You know

(33:43):
Jeens Sarasn made the double eagle, So that weighs a
little bit coming down the stretch. Now you have to
just play your game. But back there it's you know it.
And then there's the green jacket and all the special
things that happened during the week of the Masters. And
it's never disappoints. When I drove through the gates here

(34:05):
in a couple of weeks, it's just the same as
the first time. It's unbelievable because because I know those
things and I have a history there and it's a
good history. I didn't win there, but you know, you
got to take the good with the bad, and that's
part of your career. And I had a chance. I
actually had two chances, and I didn't win. But that's okay,
it's okay. You know, I get to go back. I'm

(34:27):
seventy years old. I to go back again and be
a part of it, and I love that.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Do you think of your dad when you're on the campus.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I used to if something brings it up, but you
know it's it was. My grandfather went to the Masters
almost every year as a patron, and Dad was good
enough if he'd have taken it more seriously. He's a
club professional, yeah, and he's a teacher and a player
within the state, and so to play well enough in
the US Open was it was a big ass. But

(34:58):
certainly I think that those who knew him knew he
had the talent to do it. But then you have
to go out and perform, so you know I did.
I did when I lost in eighty five, for sure,
and that was part of the hurt. But you know,
it all happens, and you know it's like I said,
it's all part of your career.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
He's Curtis Strange. He'll be on the call with ESPN
for the Masters in just a couple of weeks. I
hope we get to see each other. Curtis, thank you
for taking the time to do this. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, it's going to be a great week as always.
You know, we've got Scott a playing you know, going
to be playing well again of course, and you got
Rory and Scheffler and all the others, so as we
always know, there'd be a couple of guys we've never
seen before. But it'll be a good week and exciting week,
and especially Sunday afternoon. So thanks for having me, John.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thanks Curtis. That's Curtis Strange. She'll be on the call
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Speaker 2 (40:46):
Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show on John Patrick Well.
For the last month, Dan Hicks has been anchoring NBC's
coverage the PGA Tour, including Rory's overtime win at the Players.
Dan is in Houston this weekend for the turn pleasure
to welcome Dan Hicks back to the Augusta Golf Show. Dan,
how are you.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I'm good, John. Long time no speak it.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Has been it has been a while. Thank you for
saying yes to this. You know, I don't think I've
ever asked you this golf. How and why did you
take up the game of golf? Who introduced it to you?

Speaker 9 (41:18):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
From a playing perspective, I did not grow up playing golf.
I played all the other sports football, basketball, baseball pretty
much took out my time off in my hometown of Twocent,
Arizona growing up. So when I hurt my knee, I
used to love to play basketball, and I played in
a bunch of pickup leagues and this and that, and
I hurt my knee for the second time at ACL

(41:41):
surgery on and I just I kind of needed something
I'd always kind of dabbled a little bit golf, So
I started kind of playing more out of college, and
just absolutely the more I played, the more in love
I fell in love with the game. And I just
needed something competitive to take the place of sports, which
I'd played my whole life, and that became my competitive

(42:03):
thing golf, and I just absolutely went wild over it.
And when I got into broadcasting, I just I just
wanted to be involved with it from that aspect. So
the rest is kind of his story from there.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Are you as you've gotten older, are you as competitive
in golf now? Or or has it become the socialization
of the game.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I try to enjoy it a little bit more, John,
rather than just looking at the scorecard, because if I
did that, that would be you know, I mean, but
I'm like it. I'm like any other golfer. I want
to go out there and I want to win the
you know, the twenty dollars clothes out or whatever little
bet we've got going with the guys. I want to
win that. And that's that's a big deal, and that
that kind of keeps everything, keeps your juices flowing. But

(42:47):
at the same time, the older I've gotten it really
it's really the great thing about the game is just
spending time with your pals and spending time outdoors and
on a beautiful golf course. And you know, I concentrate
more and more on that as as the years go
on and That's that's what makes golf different from any

(43:07):
of the sport that you play, even at eat them
at a leisure level.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Neatest place you've played.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Wow, neatest, coolest man. There's been a lot of them.
I'll say a favorite. I'll say a favorite golf course.
That'd be Shinnacock. I think that place just has the
factor in every way form as far as probably the
coolest neatest crescendo of golf that I've ever played is
Cyprus Point. I think that place is like magical religious experiment,

(43:39):
religious experience. I just think that place has the greatest
crescendo of golf holes that I've ever seen. So those
two are special. But my home club of wing Put
two is one of those things where I never get
I never get tired of driving through the gates, and
I pinch myself every time I go through the gates
of wing Put. How lucky am I to be there

(44:00):
and the membership that we have and the golf courses
that are there as well, And they're hosting another US
Open in twenty twenty eight, so hopefully we'll get to
do that.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Have you have you played Shinnecock's neighbor.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I have National is fantastic and those that's the that's
the uh, you know, the the love hate relationship, right
the happy golf places National and the kick your butt
place is Shinnecock. But you love them for both of
those reasons.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You you were on the call for a lot of Tiger.
What is it about Scotty? What what do you see
in Scotty that is just making us think more and
more about what Tiger was able to accomplish.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You know, I think you start to really end with
the consistency of golf. I think the sustained consistency that
Scotty Scheffler has shown us for the past couple of
years is Tiger like and the numbers bear that out.
Other than that, it's very different, John, the way that
Scotty kind of goes about his business and the way

(45:05):
that Tiger went about his business. It's it's very different.
Yet at the same time, the results, you know, speak
for themselves. Tiger was electric, Tiger was spectacular, Tiger was demonstrative.
Tiger had more highlights and has more highlights than anybody

(45:26):
in the history of sport as far as big time
like you know, scintillating, tingling moments, Scotty doesn't. Scotty's collection
so far doesn't rival that, but the results do. And
I think that's what you have to remember. There's a
lot of different ways of going about this game, a
lot of different ways of registering with the fans, and

(45:49):
Scotty is registering with the fans with an unbelievable streak
of relentless, high, high level golf that even when he
doesn't win, he's a lot like Tiger. He's around the
top of the leaderboard. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
We are talking with Dan Hicks here on the Augusta
Golf Show. I know there's no cheering in the press box,
but as a lover of sport, would you love to
see Rory win this Masters?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Absolutely? I think that is the biggest story book result
that that you could think of from this year's Masters,
And I think I think I speak for a lot
of people. This has been you know, across to Bear
whatever you want to call it, for so many years now, right,

(46:39):
and it's not And it's also compounded by the fact
that he hasn't won a major since twenty fourteen, right,
So we're coming up on eleven years here, and that's
the only one he hasn't won, and there's been some
excruciating misses, too numerous to even get into of the
other majors, one being the latest that we did last
year at Pinehurst. So all that stacked upon one another,

(47:01):
all that Rory mclroy's given back to the game with
his time, his accessibility, his likability factor is off the charts.
I think that's the single best result as far as
if you're you're working at CBS, or you're just a fan,
that is the number one thing that can happen right now.

(47:22):
That would just I think thrill you know, just the
vast majority of people out there.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You know, let me skip ahead a couple of major championships,
if you'll let me. I'm embarrassed to tell you. As
I was preparing for our conversation, I went on YouTube
just to make sure you were on the call at
Oakmont in two thousand and seven. It was it was
a higher pitched Dan Hicks.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
But that is true.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I feel like we all, I feel like broadcasters John
that have been around as long as we have, I
think we all we all feel like we sound like
we're on we're on helium. Crazy thing of of time,
right that goes on and it's just not me. I mean,
if you listen to Joe Buck back in the day,
it's the same thing. Even nance if you listen to

(48:11):
that nineteen eighty six Masters asking Tom Whiscoff will be
going through your mind. I mean, it's the same kind
of things. So yeah, we're all on helium.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
At a young age.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Oakmont's one of my all time favorite spots. For someone
who's never been, tell them, tell them about Oakmont, oh Man.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
First of all, Oakmont is the single hardest golf course
I've ever played in my life.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
But I loved it.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I loved every second of it. It's It's again. It's
got the it's factor. And if you have him into Oakmont,
if you went to Oakmont back in the early days
and you saw it kind of I don't want to
say overgrown, but with a lot of trees and a
lot of you know, a lot of clutter around this
beautiful golf course, and then you went back after they
cleared it out, you would you would barely recognize it.

(48:56):
But I love what they did to Oakmont. I love
how they exposed all the all the sight lines, and
the agronomy obviously has gotten better when you take a
lot of trees out and you take a lot of growth,
but both Mot's just tough, so good though. It's just
got this ruggedness to it that has stood the test
of time. And there's and there's no reason why it

(49:16):
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venue because it delivers each and every time. And it's
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they do something different to it just because of US

(49:37):
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they operate. So it's just an incredible, wonderful place that
I'm looking forward to getting back to.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I know we got to go. Last time, you talked
to Johnny. How's Johnny? What's he doing?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah? I talked to Johnny. I try to give him
a call every few weeks or so. He just had
knee replacement surgery. He's had, you know, his knees have
been bothering him for a long time, but he's doing great.
He got twenty three grandchildren that he loves and he
spends time with. And there's one grandchild in particular. Johnny's
never really bragged about any of his kids. I mean,

(50:20):
two of his boys had PGA Tour card, really good
accomplished golfers. But he's got a grandson. I think he's
now twelve years old, and he sent me a video
of him, and he's like the spitting image of Johnny
as a young, a young Johnny Miller and the swing roller,
mind you of Johnny, and the kid is winning. Like
every tournament he plays.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
In Utah is.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yes, yes, it's this, Yeah, how about that? And his
name is Nicholas Well, just like Jack. Yeah, you're familiar
with him.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yep, yep, he is dan player. Johnny's proud of him,
Good for him, Good for him. I'm just happy he's happy.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, so am I. Man, He's he's one of my
all time great friends. And we just had a magical
run together. And when I look back at my career
and look about look look back at the career we've
all had at NBC Golf, I'll think of Johnny because
he was the guy that really put NBC Golf on
the map.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Back of the day, he's Dan Hicks putting NBC Golf
on the map now with his calls, Dan, I appreciate
you taking the time to do this. I know you're busy.
I know you got a lot going on. Thank you,
Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Always a pleasure, John, Always a pleasure to hear your
voice and have a chance to chat.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
There you go, Dan Hicks from NBC Sports, Thank you.

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I think that the biggest thing that attracted me to
the game and still does to this day, is the challenge.
The challenge of trying to hit that one shot just
the way you envision it, just the way you feel it,
and you make that swing and you look up and
that ball is doing exactly what you had envisioned it doing,

(55:51):
and it felt exactly the way it should feel. And
to me, there's very few things in life that give
you much more satisfied than executing a shot exactly the
way you intended to. And as I get older, that
happens less and less, but it still gives me great joy.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
When I do it.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Here you go, Gary Koch and why he loves the
game of golf. Hey, don't forget. If you would like
to comment about anything you heard on the show this morning,
good or bad, I would love to hear from you.
Send me an email, let me know what you think.
I love the feedback, I really do. I really want
to know what you think. John at Augustagolfshow dot com. Okay,

(56:36):
that's the show for this morning. I do want to
thank my guests Angela Stanford, Curtis Strange, Dan Hicks. Thank
you for taking the time to listen. Please make sure
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(56:58):
AND's Son Lawn and Garden Show is coming up next
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to The Augusta Golf Show with John Patrick. Stay well,
stay safe, See you next time. So long, bye boy.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
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