Augusta Golf Show/Ron Green Jr. & Johnson Wagner

This weekend, Ron Green Jr. previews the upcoming PGA Championship
Johnson Wagner explains his latest projext, replicating some of Tiger Woods' greatest shots

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Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, good morning, Ken, Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show.
I'm John Patrick. Ron Green Junior covers the game for
Global Golf post next week's PGA Championship at Quail Hollow
and Charlotte. It's going to be a home game for Ron.
Pleasure to welcome Ron Green Junior back to the Augusta
Golf Show. How are you, Ron, I'm good.

Speaker 13 (07:20):
I hope you are.

Speaker 14 (07:21):
John I'm good.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm good. Let's start with this. Golf fans have been
seeing big events at Quayle Hollow for years, but a
lot might not know about the creation of the club.
Talk a little bit about Johnny Harris and the club.

Speaker 13 (07:38):
Yeah, it's obviously his profile, not just nashally but kind
of internationally now has grown dramatically over the past decade
or so. But from the start back in the early sixties,
Johnny Harris's father, Jimmy Harris, was a member at Charlotte
Country Club of Big tim Place in Charlotte, also at
Augusta National and he wanted to build a club in Charlotte,

(08:02):
and he enlisted the help of his good friend Arnold Palmer,
and one night in nearly late I think nineteen fifty
nine actually, he invited about twenty five gentlemen over and
told him about the plans to this club and off
the win. It took a little while, but the enlisted
Arnold because they wanted to eventually have professional golf in Charlotte.

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And the great story that Johnny tells about his dad
is one of the potential new members said, do you
think the golf course we're going to be we're going
to build it is going to be good enough to
host professional golf? Arnold said, if you put up enough money,
they'll play down Independence Boulevard, which was the main thoroughfare

(08:47):
in Charlotte at the time, and they didn't have to
quite do that. But they've been playing golf. I think
this is the forty third golf tournament. They're going to
have it Quail professional event. They're going to have it Quail.
So you know, it's grown, the golf courses matured. It's
different than it was when it was originally developed. George
Cobb built it, and then in the eighties Palmer, who

(09:09):
was a member and had a house on the golf course,
did some changes, and then the late nineties Tom Fazio
did the most substantial changes and has continued through the
years to work on it, tweak it, and it's beautiful
it's theatrical, it's got great staging around certain places. It's
got wonderful infrastructure. They've invested a lot of money, and

(09:31):
here we are with the second PGA Championship.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
How is it thought of in the Charlotte area.

Speaker 13 (09:39):
Well, I think it's I mean, it's reached the point where,
not just in Charlotte, I think in golf throughout it's
become sort of a one name club. Just say Quail
and people know what you're talking about. I think it is,
you know, as a limited membership. They ask you, you
don't ask them. I think.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
So.

Speaker 13 (09:59):
I'm I'm still waiting. I sent him my number if
they ever wanted to ask, But I'm still waiting for
that one. But I think it's got a lot of
the sort of captains of industry in Charlotte, the businessman,
the bank executives, people like that. You know, there's some
tour players there, Johnson, Wagner, Mackenzie Hughes, Harold Varner, some

(10:21):
other guys there. Jimmy Johnson, the great race car drivers
a member there. Mister David tep Ruins the Carolina Panthers
as a member there. So it's it's a great place.
I think it is probably a little more relaxed than
people would think. I think it's got a really good
vibe to it. At the times I've been able to

(10:41):
go out there and be guests of people, and I'm
just finishing a second book on the place. I've always
been struck by the hospitality out there, that there's a
nice comfort to it. I mean, it's it's elegant, but
it's not overly fancy, if you know what I'm saying.
There are other places you could go that you might
feel a little might feel a little stuffier. There's not

(11:02):
a lot of stuffy to quail how they just they
know how to do it right. They make you feel comfortable,
and it's I think that's part of its secret sauce.
It's just when you go there, whether you're just going
to watch a golf tournam or whether you're a guest
is somebody, whether you're at an event, you feel comfortable
there and that's a good way to be.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
We're talking with Ron Green Junior here on the Augusta
Golf Show. Well, Rory has won there often. He's coming
off his Master's win. What are you expecting out of Rory?

Speaker 13 (11:35):
Yeah, he's won four tournaments there and lost in playoff
to Ricky Foller in a fifth one. So he's been
that good. I mean, I think you can go back
to earlyer this year. Somebody asked, worry about major championships.
Is there one you're looking forward to? Because I know
where the PGA Championship is. It's at Quail Hole. It's
one of my favorite places in the world. I can't wait,

(11:56):
So I think it starts with him. But I think
it starts with him as Scotti Scheffer sort of shouldered
a shoulder. Somebody asked me the other day, who's the favorite,
Rory or Scottie, and given what Scotty did at the
Texas Open, and I think they're even. But you know,
if you're going to give anybody the edge, it's going
to be Rory. I think because of his success. They're

(12:17):
his record there. He's a member there, not that he's
there much other than tournament week, but Scotty hadn't played
there as much. But I think for all those supposed
questions about what's wrong with Scotty Scheffer's game, I think
he gave us the emphatic there's nothing wrong with my
game at Texas, And I mean setting up could hardly

(12:38):
have a better setup. But those two guys in the form,
they are justin Thomas having just won he won his
twenty seventeen PG Championship, and Charlotte and Jordan Speith going
for the career Grand Slam. I mean that's a familiar
theme this year, and Jordan's coming in. I think three
straat top twenties, played great in Texas, got sixty two
on Sunday. I'm feeling really good about where he is.

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So I think all the thematic threads are there for
something special.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
You mentioned Jordan. Are you giving him a puncher's chance
to do this?

Speaker 14 (13:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (13:09):
I think so. A couple ofs had really nice long
conversation with him at Hilton had a couple of weeks ago,
and I think he's in a really good place. I
think he understands. I mean what he went through with
this wrisk. It was not a short rim thing. I
mean it started developing several years ago and led to
some swing changes, grip changes that were not necessarily what

(13:31):
he wanted, but they were compensating. And we all know
about golf. You start compensating making changes, it's hard to
get back out of those. But he really seems like
a guy who's very enthusiastic and seems like he understands
the great run he head at the start of his career,
and I think he sees another eight to ten years
out there in front of him and he wants to
do something he likes his chances of Quail played really

(13:53):
good at Kail Houl in the President's Cup, so I
think he brings some of that with him. I'm not
going to put him ahead of Rory or Scottie Scheffler,
but I think it's not one where you just you're
going to be just He's going to show up and
hope he finds something. I think he's coming in with
some pretty good vibes about it.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know, Ron, I could be wrong about this, but
I don't really remember so much talk about Tiger completing
the career Grand Slam when he did. I'm sure there
was talk about that, but not like not like Rory
here and not like Jordan there. That just seems social media,
whatever it might be, it all just seems ramped up.

Speaker 13 (14:34):
Yeah, I think you're right about that, and I think
with Tiger it was not and if it was, the
inevitables win and he sort of did it? I think
I maybe right, did Tiger do it? Just went off?
I guess he'd won two Masters, but I think he
did it, and he got four and five wins or something.
But you know, I think the Rory thing, given what
happened whatever twenty eleven, I should remember all those dates

(14:57):
after just having you know, but from that one and
him having everything else. It was, as Speech said, when
I ask him about the Players Championship, do you look
at what Rory's facing compared to what you're facing? Goes no,
because the Masters. Everything is blown up around the Masters,
partly because of what it is, where it is, when

(15:19):
it is, you have nine months build up to it,
and you know, Rory is just this magnetic figure. Jordan's
has gone a little more under the radar. I think
this will be the ninth time he's tried to complete
the career of Grand Slam, and I just don't think
the PGA attracts quite the attention, and you know, and
I think Jordan's been a little bit off the radar

(15:41):
some these last few years. So I think if he
were to go shoot two really good rounds Sercy on
Friday and being in on the weekend, suddenly that's where
the focus will turn again.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Hang on Ron taking a break right here. I'm talking
to Ron Green Junior from Global Golf. Post will continue
with Ron talking about next week's PGA Championship, But while
I have you, take a look at a couple of
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courses and facilities. PGA of America has been criticized for
the price of the all inclusive tickets of this year's
matches Friday, Saturday Sunday seven hundred and fifty dollars. Well,
Billy Horschel's Ryder Cup hopes have probably been dashed as

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he announced he's going to be undergoing hip surgery. Surgery
on his right hip's going to take place early next
week in Colorado. Billy's going to be sidelined for months,
perhaps for the rest of the FedEx Cup season. When
asked about the Ryder Cup, he said, quoting I would
love to be part of that zoo in New York.
It'll be the craziest Ryder Cup ever. Hey, don't forget

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Speaker 2 (21:22):
Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm John Patrick.
Let's continue the conversation with Ron Green Junior from Global
Golf Post. We're kind of previewing next week's PGA Championship. Ron,
you mentioned Scottie Scheffler. What's his record at Quail.

Speaker 13 (21:40):
You know he's played some, he hasn't played much. I
can but will now be the truest championship was the
Wills Fargo because he is in much the same way
Jordan Stieve hadn't played as much as some other guys because, uh,
that tournament always sort of falls right around the Texas swing,
and they're so devoted to the Texas tournaments that they
they've sometimes taken the week of Charlotte off and so

(22:03):
I mean they've been okay, but nothing. You know, Jordan
Wouold's best would have been at the like I said,
at the President's Coup. And you know, I don't know
that Scott he has played there that much. I act
you have to look that one up.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
All right, Let's see we mentioned Rory Scotty, Jordan you
talked about j T. Give me some other names. I'm
not going to ask you to pick a winner. I
just think that's foolhardy, But give me some other names
of players that you think will will contend well.

Speaker 13 (22:30):
I'll be interested to see how Andrew Schaffley does. He's
sort of quietly played his way back toward for him.
I mean, he was close to the top of the
world at the end of last year with the season
he had, and obviously some time off because the injury
has been a slower start than he may have wanted.
But I mean he's getting close to being Xander Shaffley.

(22:51):
I think he sounds like he feels good about where
he is, and it's kind of easy to forget that
each of the last two Wells Fargo Championships and Schoffley
was in the final pairing both times. I think Rory went.
Xander may have been leading by two shots midway through
the first nine on the final round last year, and

(23:12):
I think Rory didn't played the next ten holes eight
under par, and you know, Xander just tried to stay
out of the way then. And so he's Wynham Clark
got in the year before, but he's been there, so
obviously he can play the golf course. I think, you know,
he's it's been easy to sort of not ignore him
but not focus on him because where he's been trying

(23:34):
to get back. I mean, he's the guy. I think
it's always going to be interesting when Bryson D. Schambeau
shows up anywhere. He shows up just because of who
he is and how he plays, and now he just
want to live event here recently, so you know, he's
always going to be part of the story just because

(23:55):
of you know, all that comes with the Bryson D.
Chambeau experience.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You are in Philadelphia for the truest this weekend, a
signature event before a major championship. Does the tour need
to rethink that whole strategy of signature events before and
immediately following majors.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
I think from what you hear, I think everything is
open for discussion. Obviously, given where the game was maybe
three years ago when they created the signature events and
just sort of combat what liv Golf was doing in
the money that was come pouring at players that way,
I think they succeeded in stabilizing the tour and finding

(24:37):
a way to do this. I think, you know, you
could make the argument, would it be better like to
play Augusta put Zurich the next week, so guys can play.
If they want to not play, then go to Hilton
Head though I would personally not like that because I
do love going straight from Augusta to he'llmit. I think
they're trying to build clusters of events. You know, I

(25:00):
didn't like having the memorial right before the US Open,
But I mean, I think it works fine. I think
there are ways you could tweak it and maybe make
it better. Just travelers want to be right after the
US Open, it might work for them. I don't know.
I think maybe more interesting will be what happens is

(25:20):
things sort of play out, especially if there's not an
agreement between the two sides anytime soon. Would we see
the tour sort of evolve into sort of a major
signature series tour with maybe eighteen events all together in there,
and then there's been some time. Would they take the
rest of the tour events and the Gordon Ferry Tour

(25:40):
and create sort of that's the rest of the PGA Tour,
play those events ways to play up and down in
the tournaments. I don't know. I think there's a lot
of discussion, a lot of change going on to PGA tour,
and I think I don't know that the future is
sort of written in stone yet.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Is what you just said viable?

Speaker 13 (26:03):
I don't know. I mean, you know, you hear all
the talk about playing opportunities and limiting playing opportunity. I mean,
you suddenly have to be in the top one hundred
this year's to get full status next year, it you know,
I do. I think theoretically that forces some players who
may not want to play so called smaller events, they're

(26:23):
going to need to play some of those to slilidify
their standing. H Yeah. I think as this has gone
on the last couple of years, it's very much become
sort of a stratified, stratified tour with uh these big
events that draw pretty much everybody. I mean, Scotti Scheffler
took the truest championship off this week. But by and large,

(26:44):
you get all the top players at the signature events,
and then you get those other events where you know
you can you can learn a lot about it, a
lot of players you didn't know much about it. Seems like,
I don't know. I think my sense is there's not
going to be any kind of deal or reconciliation will
live anytime soon. So, uh, you know, I think it.

(27:08):
I don't my answers. I don't fully know what's going
to happen, but I think I think they're going to
try to enhance whatever the upper echelon is. And because
they're asking for enormous amounts of money from these sponsors
and I think they want some as much as they
can get guarantees for who they're getting and what they're getting,
they want to.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Keep that these non majors, these non signature events, are
they in jeopardy. I mean, you people may not have
thought about this with what Scotty did last weekend, but
if Scotty won't there, well you know Eric van Royan,
but that would have been that would have been a
tough leader board.

Speaker 13 (27:47):
Yeah. I mean there's some of those where you get
you know a lot of more unfamiliar names. I mean,
you're going to get me get them when you go
to three and when you go to Rocket in the
summer with you know, the tour sort of shift. I
think it's Headliners over to the UK for Scottish Open,
for the Open Championship and then the travel involved, so

(28:07):
you get those little sort of not all softer weeks
that you know. I think it's just the way the
landscape is right now. I don't know if they're going
to be able to adjust. I think you're, you know,
the top guys only want to play so many times,

(28:27):
and where there's sort of the rub. I mean, if
you've got whatever, seventy two players in the signature event
and you just show up and play decently well in
those signature events and a couple of majors year, and
it's really hard to fall out of the top one hundred,
which makes it harder for the other players to play
their way in. I know, the tours run all sorts

(28:47):
of modeling and holgarithms and all stuff to talk about churn,
and I think they see by a I may be wrong,
but it's like a thirty thirty turnover in who qualifies
for gets the full status every year. So I think
in that they could point event say, look, the system
is working the way we wanted to. But it's really
hard for players who don't have who might have a

(29:09):
full tour card but don't have access to all the events.
I mean, they don't get very many starts. The starts
they're getting are not in the biggest events and they
really really have to play well or you know, suddenly
twelve shots at it may not be enough to get
you where you want to go the next year.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm really going to ask you to speculate here.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Ron.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You've talked about, you know, what we might see moving
forward with the PGA tour, and you've talked about the
fact that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot
going on between the tour and Live. Let me take
the other side. What if there is some sort of
an agreement, would you do would you see the tour
moving forward the way they're moving if there was an agreement.

Speaker 13 (29:51):
That's the whatever one point five million dollar question or whatever,
you know. I think, unless I'm really reading it wrong
and people really been misleading about it is, I don't
think Live is going to go anywhere even if there
is an agreement, And I think that's part of the
sticking point. I think the tour basically wanted to Live
to sort of cease. Maybe they could incorporate a little

(30:14):
bit of Live things into their tour, but they're pretty
resolute that they're going to keep going. I mean, they've
got a new office in New York, the fancy office,
they're hiring people, they've got new sponsorship deals. I don't
know that they have the I know they don't have
the traction here in the United States that they were
hoping to get, but they're trying to get World Golf
ranking points, and I guess Trevor Mulman's open to talking

(30:35):
to Scott O'Neill, the new CEO, about what it will
take to do that. Yeah, I don't know what a
if the deal gets consummated, I don't know what it's
going to look like. I think there's been talk about
global events, you know, with they add signature events, maybe

(30:58):
in Asia somewhere, maybe back in make So, maybe in
Saudi Arabia or something like that. I think there'd be
a lot of business aspects to it. The investment, what
we saw the Strategic Sports Group doing, how their impact
is pact is being felt at tour offices and in
some changes already. Yeah, I think that's part of the

(31:21):
whole mystery of this whole thing. What would it look
like because nobody's been able to offer a really clear answer.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
All right, I'll let you go with this. Whether or
not there's an agreement with Live you alluded to this earlier.
Do you think the schedule or the makeup of the
schedule next year looks different.

Speaker 13 (31:41):
You know, they kept talking about twenty four and twenty
five being bridge years to something bigger. You know, I
don't know. I mean, I know, like Truis just signed
on this the first of a seven year deal. They
signed on as a signature event, and I think they
want to keep their place on the schedule. Obviously, the

(32:02):
majors aren't going to move around up. You know, it's
fun to sit around and reimagine, Hey, what if we
did the West Coast Swing when the weather's a little better.
Maybe we do it in May and we go to
Florida early. And as I don't anticipate huge dramatic changes,
I think we'll finally maybe this year, but not even
next year, we'll get some other change in format for

(32:23):
the Tour Championship. I don't think they're likely to leave Atlanta.
I think because the two companies that sponsor that tournament
or base right there, and they like having their clients
out there. Even though August In Atlanta and the different
the fedegs cut playoffs two of the three spots. August
In Atlanta and Memphis in Atlanta, that's it's pretty sweaty

(32:45):
those places that time of year. But I don't expect
giant changes. I think we could see a tournament or
two move around. Maybe I'm not sure. I think Mexico
may actually be ending after this year, but I could
be mistaken about that. You know, be interesting to see.
I think they're playing the opposite feal to have been

(33:05):
at Myrtle Beach this week, which I think was surprisingly
successful last year, And you know, it would be interesting
to see what would happen to a place like that
if they could continue to evolve that golf tournament. I
don't know if you want to place in the fall
or not. I don't know if all events are going to,
you know, be minimized even more. I wish I had

(33:30):
a greater depth of foresight to take exactly what it's
going to look like. But right now I'm lacking in
that department.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
He doesn't lack in many departments. He's Ron Green Junior
from Global Golf Posts. Thank you for taking the time
to do this, Ron, I appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (33:44):
Always enjoy it. John.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
There you go, that's Ron Green Junior again. You can
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Speaker 2 (39:10):
Welcome back to the Augusta Golf Show. I'm john Patrick.
Johnson Wagner covers the game for a golf channel, and
this weekend, Johnson is replicating some of Tiger's most famous
shots from his historic two thousand season. It's a pleasure
to welcome Johnson Wagner back to the Augusta Golf Show.

(39:32):
How are you, Johnson?

Speaker 14 (39:34):
John? I am doing so good. I am just living
my best life, talking about golf playing occasionally.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
All right, talking about your best life. Before we talk
about what you're doing right now, let's go back for
a second to how all of this started. Did it
start at the players with you throwing that golf ball
into the rough?

Speaker 14 (39:54):
It absolutely did. The producers at Golf Channel back in
the beginning of twenty twenty four or said, they had
this great idea for me to go out on the
course at major championships, in the Players Championship and recreate
the best shots of the day. And that was the
first one. That was Thursday. Now I was able to
go out on the course and do stuff Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday night, but it was the first recreation. And I

(40:17):
remember walking in and Jeff Stabians, the Live from Late
producer who's on site, and we were like, what are
you thinking. He's like, you know, Rory's taking two bad
drops today. He's like, I want not bad drops, but
questionable drops on eighteen and then he made the turn
and on seven it was like Jordan Speets was, you know,
questioning and make sure they were in the right spot.

(40:38):
And he's like, go out there and tell me what
you can do. And so I went out there, looked
at it and I was like, hey, I think Rory
took a fine drop. You could see the ball bounce.
I was like, let let's get some balls. I'll chuck
him into the ground and I'll hit him on the
bank in different locations and we'll be able to replicate
how his ball bounced uff And the first two went perfect,
and then the third one I threw was trying to

(40:59):
hit inside the penali aeria and kick into the water.
And I was driving home that night and I called
my main boss, Matt Haggerty, and I'm like, I'm messed up.
The ball bounced in a different direction, and I feel
like I just proved Rory took a bad drop. And
he was laughing at me. He's like, have you looked
at social media yet? And I said, no, I haven't.
He said, when you get back to the hotel, take
a look and then call me back. And like the

(41:21):
amount of people that were just loving the content and
the fact it was just it was incredible and it's
kind of taken off from there, and I'm just so
lucky and fortunate to be able to get to do
those kind of things on the course at these venues.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Well, okay, let me ask you this, and I think
I'm looking for a serious answer. I know there have
been times there have been shots that have not gone
as planned. Has any of this really been difficult for you?
Or was it fine right from the start.

Speaker 14 (41:52):
The only thing that's difficult is, you know, trying to
hit a shot when you haven't hit a golf ball
all day long and you just out there kind of
cracking your back waiting to go on air for thirty
forty five minutes an hour even, and to try to
pull off like a hero shot. It's a very difficult
thing to pull off. And I'm just to the point
now where I'm going out there trying to execute the

(42:14):
shot as best as I can, and if I mess up,
people seem to seem to like it. If I hit
good shots, they like that. It's just I feel like
the beauty of it is that we're taking the viewer
down on the ground at these venues and really digging
into some of the shots of the day. And it No,
I've gotten so comfortable, I've gotten so comfortable with it

(42:36):
and setting up the shot that the outcome of the
golf shot is almost doesn't matter compared to the setup
and where we are and where we're taking the viewer.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Has it changed the way you've watched a golf tournament,
Oh that's the shot I'm going, Oh, I'm going to
hit that shot.

Speaker 14 (42:52):
It has because I've done a lot of studio stuff
and I like to chart all the shots and be
prepared with a breakdown of somebody's short game or somebod
these iron game and to at the end of last year,
I think I did get one dimensional when thinking about it,
and so my goal for this year, especially at the Players,
because it was my first opportunity, was to see a trend,

(43:12):
if there was a shot on a certain hole that
people had over and over again that we could sort
of not just be one shot, but hey, guys have
been missing the right side of the thirteenth green. This
is a brutal shot. We've got three shots to choose from.
We're going to go play this one. So I've definitely,
in this second year of doing it, started thinking a
little broader and deeper and not just one dimensional. Oh

(43:34):
that's the shot I'm gonna go hit.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
We're talking with Johnson Wagner here on the Augusta Golf
Show before we get to what you're doing right now?
Will it ever? Can it ever get better than Pinehurst
last June?

Speaker 14 (43:51):
I think well, at the end of the Players this year,
on Monday, Rory McElroy came out after winning and helped
me hit the shot on seventeen. I did hit it
in the water. But had I hit a hole in one,
had I made a hole in one on that shot,
that could have possibly been better. But until unless I
hole out a shot with the champion of the event

(44:13):
sitting next to me, No, it's not going to get
better than what happened with Bryce. And that was just
the perfect storm and really showed a softer side to
him that he's been working on hard the last couple
of years to sort of bring in the audience to
his side. And I think he's done a great job
of it. And I mean no, when I walked through
the airport by the way, I mean it's just constant

(44:34):
people are like, you're the guy that hit that shot
with Bryson now the bunker at Pinehurst, and it was
probably the best thing that's happened to me.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Okay, let's get to what you're doing right now. Okay,
well this should be easy. Let's just go replicate the
shots that Tiger hit in two thousand, maybe the greatest
year of golfer's ever had. So tell me a little
bit about this little project.

Speaker 14 (45:00):
Well, so, Matt Haggerty my main studio, Bosston, the Golf Channel,
he's been the executive producer for many years. He's the
one that spearheaded all these recreation things. And he came
to me back in December and said, hey, you know,
next year is the twenty fifth anniversary of Tiger's incredible
year of two thousand. What do you think if we
pick a few shots and we send you out on

(45:22):
the road and you get to go travel around the
country slash world and recreate these shots over the course
of four days or a week. And immediately my mind
started going crazy, like, oh my gosh, two thousand, the
playoff at Coppolua, with Ernie El's obviously completing the Grand
Slam at Saint Andrew's, Pebble Beach, Valhalla, Firestone, Glenn Abbey.

(45:43):
I mean, the list goes on and on of the
possibilities that we had to choose from, and within our
budgetary restrictions, I think we've come up with a good
game plan.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
All right, you're still you're also showing it this weekend,
so tell me a little bit about the ones you're hitting.
What got decided upon.

Speaker 14 (46:03):
Yeah, So Thursday we did two shots from Pebble Beach,
which the first one we taped because Pebble's been amazing,
but obviously they're packed and a lot of people coming
in and out of there. So we taped Tiger's shot
from the at and t Pebble Beach pro am on
fifteen when he holed out, he was down seven to
start the day to Matt Gogel and he holds out

(46:24):
to a back right flag on fifteen. He said it
was a fifty six degree shot, but since the greens
were so soft, he just chipped a little pitching wedge.
So that one was a fun, fun one to go
hit at early in the morning. And then later that
afternoon we went out to six and hit the famous
shot he hit out of the right rough, which isn't
there anymore because post the twenty ten US Open, Pebble

(46:44):
Beach moved that fairway over towards the cliff's edge, so
that made that shot a lot easier. And then we
headed to took the Red Eye to Toronto, California. I
call it, excuse me, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Wow, it hit
the famous Canadian Open shot for Glenn Abbey out of
the right bunker two to six feet. So, needless to say,
these these shots have have been extremely high skill level

(47:08):
to this so far, and just you know, we're just
honored that Golf Channel UH is putting me in this
position to go hit these shots, and the clubs have
been just fantastic letting us come out.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
When you when you were putting together the list, By
the way, is the shot on six still a fair fight?

Speaker 14 (47:27):
It's not even It's not even remotely the same shot.
I mean, I've hit it out of the right first
cut and the tree that he hit it over wasn't there,
So no, I was I was relieved that that's the
one we chose because I could just pick it right
off the first cut. But still it's a it's a
brutal shot up and over the cliff to have to
elevate the ball that quickly.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
So you didn't you didn't bring you didn't bring Roger
back to to call it.

Speaker 14 (47:48):
I wish. I don't think that was in our budget.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Was there?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
One?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Was there as you guys compiled the list? Was there
one you really wanted to attempt and one you were like,
I don't know that I want to do that.

Speaker 14 (48:01):
Well, I think it's the same one. I think it's
the Fairway bunker shot from glenn Abbey. Yeah, open in
two thousand.

Speaker 17 (48:06):
I mean that.

Speaker 14 (48:07):
Shot is iconic. And when I think about all the
greatest tiger wood shots I've ever seen in my life,
well other than maybe the chip shot from sixteen and
the five Masters, I think that the shot that he
hit that Farry bunker at glen Abbey. And I played
the Canadian Open probably eight times at glenn Abbey, and
so every time I walk down that hole, I look

(48:27):
at that bunker and I look at the green, I'm like,
how did this guy do this? But then at the
same time, I didn't really want to hit it either,
because I don't have the links to hit a sticks
iron the way he did.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
You know, you've answered my question. When we play Mere
Mortals and we're two twenty from a green and we
stand there and think, you know, there's going to be
some pro hit the five iron from this distance, I
would think. I would think the bunker shot at glenn Abbey,
I don't care your level, your skill level, that's got

(48:59):
to be a little scary and impressive.

Speaker 14 (49:02):
It's crazy scary. And you know why we watched that
shot a lot. He was going toe to toe with
Grant Waight, who was one back at the time, and
Grant Weight had already hit the middle of the green,
had thirty feet free eagle, and so Tiger knew that
he needed to put it on the green to make
a birdie to at least at a bare minimum, force
a playoff. As it turned out, Grant would tuput so

(49:24):
would Tiger. But I mean under that pressure. And now, look,
he had already I think he had already won at
Saint Andrews and Glenn Abbey was the week after, two
weeks after, so he had already completed the career Grand Slam.
He's playing with house money, and when you're in that
situation in near Tiger Woods, you are afforded the ability
to take it a little extra risk. But had he
not pulled that shot off, Grant Weight would have been

(49:45):
the two thousand Canadian Open champion. And now it's just
one of these shots in the lure of Tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
You know, I want to end with that, The lure
of Tiger Woods. We talk about that on the show
a lot. You know, when he gets out there, now
if and when he gets out there, everybody kind of
crosses their and hopes is it those shots? Is it
those memories that keep us thinking that way?

Speaker 14 (50:09):
It absolutely is, And I mean twenty nineteen when he
came back to Augusta National and the Masters and one.
I don't think any of us wanted it to be
his swan song. I don't think any of us wanted
it to be his Jack Nicholas nineteen eighty six moment.
But now that we can sit back and reflect and
all the injuries he's been through since then, not only

(50:30):
before then, I think now as as I at least reflect,
it's like, okay, twenty nineteen, the Masters tournament, that was
the moment, the twenty eighteen Tour Championship, I mean all
of it leading up, Like I wish I could have gone,
I could go back and have that reflective memory, like, hey,
this is the last time we're going to do this.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
He is Johnson Wagner covers the game for it Golf Channel.
He is one of the He is one of the
great guys in the game and obviously one of the
great sports in the game. Johnson, thank you for saying
yes to this. I know you're in a crazy schedule.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (51:04):
It is a pleasure talking with you anytime. Don't ever
hesitate to reach out to me. Love you, guys, and
love everything you do there in Augusta.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Here you go, it's Johnson Wagner from Golf Channel. Don't
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Well, you know, golf has been a part of my
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(55:30):
For me. You know, some of my greatest friends that
I've been lifelong friends I've formed on the golf course.
So you know, I love the sport. I love everything
the sport stands for, but mostly it's the relationships I
think that I enjoy the most. I just love being outdoors.

Speaker 13 (55:46):
You know.

Speaker 17 (55:46):
One of the drawbacks a lot of people say about
golf is it takes so long. But at the same time,
you know, it's as difficult as the game is. It
really does help you to escape and think of nothing else,
but you know, in the present moment and enjoying the
people that you're with. I think that's the thing I
love about the most.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Well, there you go. That's our buddy Bethann Nichols from Golfweek,
golf week dot com, and Golf Channel and why she
still loves the game of golf. Don't forget if you
would like to comment about anything you heard on the show,
good or bad, I would love to hear from you.
I love the feedback. Let me know what you think.
Send me an email. John at Augustagolfshow dot com. Okay,

(56:34):
John at Augustagolfshow dot com. All right, that's the show
for this week. I do want to thank my guests,
Ron Green Junior, Johnson Wagner, thank you for listening. Please
make sure the other members of your foursome know about
this program and tell them when it's on so they
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(56:55):
iHeartRadio app. It's on the Odyssey app, It's on iTunes,
Apple Podcast however you stream at home. Wallace AND's son
Lonengarden show is coming up next See and See Automotive Show.
After that, Mary, Liz, ab Jenna and I will be
back Monday morning at five point thirty. Have a great weekend.
Thank you for listening to The Augusta Golf Show with

(57:17):
John Patrick. Please stay well, please stay safe, and I'll
see you next time. So long, bye bye.

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