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May 27, 2025 38 mins
Joe Pardavila welcomes Dr. Marschall Runge, Dean of the University of Michigan Medical School and author of The Great Healthcare Disruption: Big Tech, Bold Policy, and the Future of American Medicine. Dr. Runge shares his bold vision for transforming the U.S. healthcare system, tackling pressing issues like physician burnout, AI-driven innovations, and the challenges of accessibility and affordability.

From the potential of AI to streamline administrative tasks and improve patient care to the controversial role of government in healthcare, Dr. Runge doesn’t shy away from hard truths. 

He discusses the obesity epidemic, the promise (and pitfalls) of drugs like Ozempic, and why a blended healthcare system—combining baseline government-provided care with optional private upgrades—could be the key to a healthier America.

Whether you’re frustrated with long wait times, high costs, or the complexities of modern medicine, this conversation offers fresh perspectives and provocative solutions. Tune in to hear why Dr. Runge believes disruption is exactly what healthcare needs—and how big tech and bold policy could reshape the future of American medicine.


Dr. MARSCHALL RUNGE serves as Executive Vice President for Medical Affairs at the University of Michigan, dean of the Medical School, and CEO of Michigan Medicine. With advanced degrees from Vanderbilt and Johns Hopkins, and specialized training at Harvard's Massachusetts General Hospital, he has spent his career driving healthcare innovation and transforming medical education. His insights draw from decades of experience as both a practicing cardiologist and healthcare executive.
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