Bev Martin - Decoding The Intersection of Intuition, Dreams, and Healing

Air Date - 20 July 2024

Ever wondered if your dreams are trying to tell you something? Or is that your inner voice trying to tell you something? Join Sharon Sayler on the Autoimmune Hour as she welcomes back intuitive expert Bev Martin. Explore how our intuition communicates, the power of dreams, and remarkable stories of intuition and symbolic dreaming. This episode delves into practical ways to understand and trust your inner voice. Don't miss Sharon and Bev's fascinating conversation about listening to intuition and interpreting dreams for guidance and healing including:

• Understanding Intuition and Its Signals
• The Power of Dreams in Intuition
• Personal Stories of Intuitive Dreams
• The Science Behind Intuition and Dreams
• Recognizing Patterns in Dreams
And much more…

More About Our Guest: Bev Martin is a natural and trained intuitive, a certified Professional Coach (PCC) Member of ICF International Coaches, a Master Practitioner of NLP (MNLP) and NLP and Health (HNLP), a Certified Facilitator of Clean Language and Symbolic Modeling, Certified Hypnotherapist. Learn more about Bev and her fantastic work at http://www.bevmartin.com/

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Episode Transcript

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That feeling of relief. That's somethingI often use with intuition, even when
if someone is considering something going,when you consider that this course rather than
that one, how do you feeland when people say relieve. Yes,
that's one of the ways our intuitionis saying, who this feels good?
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(01:21):
I'm Sharonsaylor from Sharonsailor dot com andit's my honor and pleasure to be with
you here on another brand new episode. And I'm really excited about this episode
because I reached out to our dearfriend and returning guest, she's one of
our superstar guests, Bev Martin,because I'll tell you what, I've had
a couple of crazy dreams lately andI felt like my intuition was trying to

(01:42):
talk to me in those and theyturned out to be pretty close, pretty
spot on. I'll tell Bevin youabout those in a little bit. But
I reached out to Bev because Ithought, how does our intuition talk to
us? That was my question.Is this just a crazy weird dream bat
b movie dream whatever, or wasit really trying to say something to me?

(02:05):
And let me introduce Bab if youdon't know her yet, and you
can always find out all her otherepisodes over at Understanding Autoimmune dot com.
And I'm going to read her biobecause I want to get it right for
you guys, beb Martin. Sheis a natural and trained intuitive, a
certified professional coach, a member ofICF International Coaches, a Master Practitioner of
NLP and help and a certified facilitatorof Clean language and sabotic modeling and a

(02:29):
certified hypnotherapist. And she is amazing. She is so awesome about understanding the
unspoken, the unseen and what doesit all mean? So be thanks for
being on the show. You're welcome. Thank you, Sharon. It's always
fun. I learn a lot inour conversations, So thank you. Oh
so do I. And as Imentioned to you, when I coerced you,

(02:52):
I didn't have to coerce our lives. She's always up for some fun.
I wanted to know, from yourour point of view, Bob,
how does our intuition talk to usin so many ways? In our intuition
is running all the time, andwhen we stop and listen, which I
advocate for actually just stopping and listeningand saying what is it that I know?

(03:16):
Then intuition. We have a relationshipwith intuition, and it works well.
Sometimes when we're busy having a busylife and we forget to do that,
intuition has to get louder. It'sregrettable when that happens, because intuition
getting louder sometimes is things happening tostop us to get our attention to make
us slow down, or it's finally, oh, something like really attention getting

(03:38):
instead of listening to it at awhisper. Now it has to become a
shout. And intuition is there allthe time. We know what we know,
it's just it's a thread running throughand we just stop listen in what
is it that I know or payingattention to it. What's happening when I

(03:59):
think about the my gut got tight? What's that about? Intuition is working
all the time, and it's asmart idea to listen. So it can
be something besides that small voice inyour head saying something that you're like,
what yes, oh yes, andcan be synchronicities and at night so often
a dream can also be a wayof our intuition reaching us because we're in

(04:23):
the best position that chatterbox logical mindthat thinks it's the boss of everything.
It's sleeping, so the intuition says, Okay, finally, here's something I
think you could know. Oh mygosh. Yeah, I've had some wild
dreams lately that were pretty intense thathad me wondering, Now I'm going to

(04:45):
share. When I think Bob knowsthis story. It was a while ago.
I had a dream and it wasvery vivid, and I've never had
this happen before. It was likeboth of my eyes were arguing with each
other, and I was the observerof my my eyeball's arguing. It was
very strange. I tell you,guys, community it was. It drilled
down to this concept of the ride. I was mad at the left eye

(05:10):
and it kept saying you should haveseen it coming, you should have seen
it coming. I woke up witha start, one of those times where
you're like, wake up with astart and you're like, wow, that
was interesting. I felt relieved afterwardsfor some reason. It was just like,
okay, I guess that needed tobe said. Whatever. That was
wow, amazing, And I thinkthat feeling of relief that's something I often

(05:31):
use with intuition, even when ifsomeone is considering something going, When you
consider that this course rather than thatone, how do you feel? And
when people say relieved, Yes,that's one of the ways our intuition is
saying, whoo, this feels good. That's remarkable. What's strange. My
eye doctor confirmed there had been achange to my eyesight afterwards, which thought

(05:57):
was rather strange, And I didtell the eye doctor the story. She
says, that's one of the weirderthings I've heard. But I can't say
that it didn't hint your eyes,because here's the proof. I love it.
Amazing. Dreams are remarkable as away of getting our attention. We
can solve a problem in a dream. Apparently the person who invented the sewing

(06:17):
machine was trying to figure out thateverything else figured out this was whenever in
history, long time ago, andwas trying to figure out how the needle
worked because most needles, the partthat you thread was at the top and
the point he end was at thebottom. And this was a real challenge
to how to automate a needle likethat. And apparently, if I think

(06:39):
hard, I'll remember the name ofthe inventor. Had a dream in which
he was surrounded by villagers who weregoing to spear him, and he noticed
that the spears that they had thehole was at the bottom. It solved
the problem of inventing a sewing machine. So often, when our conscious mind

(07:00):
is like noodling on something in thepeacefulness of the dream state, when we're
not thinking too hard, we're actuallyin a different state. These ideas come.
My husband had a dream solve aproblem that he didn't even know he
had. So quite some years agowe were living in this house. He
gets up in the morning and hesays, I've just got to go and
look in the garbage. I'm like, okay. He goes and digs in

(07:27):
the garbage. Bitch, let usleeves banana peals. Not a fun little
dig. This is his wallet.He had a dream that said, you
threw away your wallet. It's inthe garbage. He didn't even know it
was missing, and the dream said, go get it. Like, how
does that work? I don't know. Is that intuition telling us that you
threw away your wallet? I thinkit's the unconscious mind. Sure, so

(07:50):
what I love about the fact thathe wasn't thinking where did I put it?
He was not involved at all,that deeper sense of intuition and the
unconscious mind that must have been therewhen he accidentally tossed it in. We're
just like replaying that to him,fortunately before the big truck came and took
the garbage away. I just havea quick question, though. I know

(08:11):
I've had NLB training too, soI just want your insights on this.
I remember vaguely they were talking abouthow our eyes see it all and our
brain gathers all that data. ButI'm butchering this, but basically we only
filter out what we could what we'reusing right then and there. So if
you needed to remember all the licenseplates in front of you while you're driving

(08:35):
or something, I guess that datais there. But it's a matter of
data recall too much information, yes, and yet it's there. So in
hypnosis, I think the same thinghappens where say we've seen in the crime
dramas when you do need to recallthe name of the license plate. Apparently
it is possible for someone in deephypnosis to go through those steps and recall

(08:56):
the bits that the logical mind isfiltered out. As I necessary. We're
remarkable human beings, We really areremarkable, and so I think the dream
state is a friendly place in whichthe unconscious mind can give us a nudge,
can give us insight about something,or heads up about something, or
even a dress rehearsal. There's beenstories about people when they come to an

(09:20):
event in the real life. Oh, I remember this, This is what
I did in my dream. Butit turned out well. So it's fascinating.
That's beyond fascinating too, because Iguess how do we filter out I
know we're talking about intuition too,but I love this dream. Maybe they're
all useful, but the scary,yuckie dreams versus the playful whatever dreams versus

(09:43):
the ones that are useful, notsay the wallet one was pretty intense practical.
I've had practical dreams too. I'mcurious do we have to sit there
and mall over the ones were low. I don't know if I that was
one of a scary roller coaster ride. Maybe I don't want to relive that
one or something. Probably not,because sometimes my understanding is and I'm not

(10:09):
an expert in how the mechanics ofthe brain, but sometimes it's a way
to discharge energy that was built upduring the day. And I think dreams
use metaphor, and I love metaphor. A dream can discharge energy. Say,
we really did want to punch someonein the face, right, We
don't have to actually do it ifin our dream we get to do it,

(10:30):
or we get to see it beingdone and have I'm happy to have
had that happen, even though noone got harmed. In the course of
this thing. So I think it'sjust it's energy that wants to go in
a certain direction. It uses metaphorto get our attention. We could be
curious about the metaphor. I wonderwhat that means? What else could it
mean? And I'm careful not tosay it has a meaning as if it

(10:52):
were to portend anything. Even thougha dream can often give us a hint
of a future event, we don'twant to be like, what does the
dream mean? But really, whatdoes it mean to me? With There
are people who do specialize in helpingsomeone unpack a dream, and they're very
careful also not to say your dreammeans, but to say, if it
were my dream, I would wonderabout that fox or so it's almost like

(11:16):
using symbolic modeling meta for work tounpack a dream. I find this fascinating
because I've told the story numerous timeson the show about I kept going mulling
over should I fire this doctor ornot? Shoul I fire this doctor or
not? And it was just alittle that I just find this fascinating that

(11:37):
listening to ourselves, trusting ourselves,being safe within ourselves has been critically important
to my healing, and my understandingall sorts of things is that even like
intuitions poking us, I believe sobecause it's a way. It's a way
that it's getting our attention in someway it's a friendly place because it's just

(11:58):
a dream. But we're paying attentionto something in a way that maybe we
couldn't attend to in our regular workingday. Something is becoming conscious that was
so deeply unconscious we couldn't see it. So it's remarkable. And so paying
attention to dreams in the same wayas we would to any kind of intuitive

(12:20):
events is to get curious, tosay, what if I've had six dreams
in a row in the last severalnights, was there a theme? Or
how come every dream is talking about? You get curious about if your dreams
were wanting to get your attention,what is it they'd like me to know?
And you can't ask them. Andthe same way, even if the
dreams are unclear to you, butyou feel like something's trying to get through

(12:41):
to you, you can interview yourintuition or you're unconscious by asking what is
it that you'd like to have me? Now? Of course by them,
I would ask spirit guides and teachers. But it's the same idea. I
believe there's a message for me somewhere, and I'm battling to get it.
What is it that something greater thanme would like to have me? Know?
What would I like to have myself? Now, many years ago,

(13:03):
there was a time when my ownbrain was in a great fear. I
was in lack consciousness and very concerned, and I was really looking for a
rescue, and my rescuer was ontheir way. And the night before the
rescue, my dream showed me whatin South Africa we would call a ladder

(13:24):
in your stocking, but here wecall it a run. And it showed
me a run, and I itjust in the dream. I knew run
from this is not a rescue.Run. In the dream, I was
trying to mail letters and all sortsof shenanigans was happening with that. But
that whole thing was run. Soeven though here came the rescue, I

(13:50):
knew to say no, and thankgod I did. So that was just
from a run. And my senseis there must be a part of us
that already has that knowing intuitively thatthe dream comes and confirms. I think
it's seldom that something completely out ofthe blue would come in a dream unless

(14:11):
some part of us was open toit or had considered it as an option.
Sometimes my dreams, though, areI'm not clear what they're talking about
all the times, and I likethe idea that you said interview, the
dream now come in such a metaphor, like thinking about the idea of run
now. You and I are obviously, I know you're younger than me,

(14:33):
but the same age where there werea thing such as stockings that younger people
don't know if my granddaughter even knowwhat they were, nor the word run
yees. So it will be subjectivein the same way I feel like your
intuition talks to you in your language. It would be that way for you,
or an image and a dream thatwould have a certain meaning from an

(14:54):
experience. At pervotal times in mylife, I noticed a theme in the
dreams. And these dreams might havebeen five seven years apart, but I
thought, huh, so do wehave time? Shall I go into it?
Yeah? So I noticed that wheneveranything big was happening in my life,

(15:15):
I dreamed of big animals. WhenI was changing my life considerably,
making a huge change my dream wasof trying to get a baby elephant across
a busy main street and I wasbattling with this eli he was having a
ball, and so like significant dream, and then all went well, but

(15:37):
I was aware of, Okay,this is the enormity of the change you're
making. It helped a lot tohave the dream. And then years later,
almost forgetting about the elephant dream,when I moved to the United States
and I wasn't allowed to work untilI got my green card, I dreamed
of beached whales. However, theywere colorful, smiling like they'd been painted

(16:00):
by a child, and so forme it was like, okay, so
this feeling of being beached, butit's okay, right, the whales are
happy, They're like lying on thebeach, go and this is fine.
So it was like interesting to me. And then not that long after,
I dreamed of an orca and Ihad met my now husband, but he

(16:21):
was my boyfriend at the time.I dreamed of an orca jumping out of
the waves and spinning and splashing down, and in the dream, my family
and Jim's family were watching this amazingspectacle and just enjoying it. And I
woke up I thought, oh,we're getting we're gonna hang away one.
It's a wedding and he's the oneand both of our families. So another

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big animal. So I watch outfor any sizeable animals in my dream and
I pay extra attention. So youcan look for a theme. You can
look for the feeling you have whenyou wake up. Now, sometimes a
yucky dream, you wake up witha yucky feel. Yeah, I've had
those before. What the heck that? Did? I have a cheeseburger before

(17:06):
I went to bed? And someof those factors could come into play.
But I would say, if youare left feeling uncomfortable or unsettled, sit
with your intuition and interview it.Say is there something I could know?
Is something I could take away fromthat? Or was that just a bad
night? Wow? That's fascinating tome. How we're supposed to just know

(17:30):
and they can come in so manydifferent ways. I love that you saw
the pattern of the big animals beingseems to be tied to big change or
big events or big decisions in yourlife. Wow, that's fascinating. I
just have fascinated about all of this. We need to take a quick commercial
break and when we come back.We're going to talk to boub some more,
just about how do we know ourintuition is trying to talk to us?

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Today is really about can our intuitiontalk to us? Was my main topic,
and I wanted to know also aboutcan our intuition come through dreams?
Because I've had some pretty crazy dreamslately and I was just fascinated by all

(20:14):
of this. So let me reintroducebab really quickly. Bev Martin. She's
a natural and trained intuitive, acertified professional coach, a member of the
ICF Coaching Professionals as well as aMaster Practitioner of NLP, and a certified
facilitator of clean language and symbolic modelingand a certified hypnotherapist and bev this has
just been awesome and fascinating about dreamsand intuition. I've been working a lot

(20:40):
lately on my autonomic nervous system,and we've had Sarah Paton on and other
experts, and some of those thingsare all about our autonomic nervous system.
And I have found how much thatplays in wellness and well being, and
if that is dysregulated for any reason, things might not be going according to
plan. And one of the thingsthat I've been working on, and I'll

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say the external world here, thevivid world, whatever you want to call
it, is letting my intuition know, letting myself know, letting my autonomic
nervous system know that it's safe.Where I'm now is safe where I used
to be perhaps wasn't or at leastmy autonomic nervous system didn't feel safe there,

(21:21):
and really encouraging my autonomic nervous systemto find ways to make it sure
that it feels safe to then knowthat it's safe for me right now.
I'm working on this feeling. Somy autonomic nervous system knows it's safe that
I'm not there anymore. I'm here. One of the things about the intuition
that I wanted to bring up waslittle ways that it talks to me.

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And yes, we'll get back todreams too, where I know we're wandering
all over, but I love Bev. She runs down rabbit holes with me.
I was driving down a road andthis road has four lanes, but
the outside two lanes are super narrow, at least for me. I feel
like I'm going to wipe out somebody'sbeside mirror when I drive this road.
I kept hearing my intuition said,get the other lane, get the other

(22:07):
lane, and I kept arguing,going, I don't want to be I
hate that lane. I don't wantto be in that line. And bam,
somebody for the fifth car behind justpiled into all of us and shoved
us up into each other. AndI think that was so pronounced, so
hello, and yet I argued withit. It's lesson learned. I don't
argue when I hear that voice anymore. But obviously my intuition was talking to

(22:30):
me there. But I still findthat fascinating. How I guess I don't
know the mechanics of it. Overtime, when you've had a few experiences
like that, you'll get to knowhow your intuition lay's sort of calmly getting
the other lane, and over timeto practice knowing the difference between hearing that

(22:51):
and worrying, because our own braincan go, oh, I wonder if
I get in the other lay,oh, I don't like this hill.
But we start to see, okay, there's a difference between me me ruminating
and that calm, clear voice sayingget in the other lane. And I
also believe that we shouldn't just obeyevery voice our intuition says. We still
get to say whatever, but resultsmay vary. It's a relationship rather than

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the boss of you. But Iknow of a client who told me that
she had been somewhere in the UnitedStates in a big post office, standing
in a line, and her intuitionsaid, go to the bathroom. She
said, I don't need to gogo to the bathroom, but I lose
my She went to the bathroom andshots rang out. Everyone was actually okay,

(23:40):
and all was all right. Butthat then she was like, oh,
thank you, that's why I wassafely in the bathroom. So I
think the more you listen to,the more you know. When it's like
a mother and a child. Okay, that voice means business, let's not
debate, let's just do It's whendo you say that? Because that saying
get in the other lane. Istill recognize that voice when I ask it

(24:03):
yes, And up until that time, I probably would have not paid attention
to it. But after the accidentand now when I've heard that voice again,
it's like your mom's saying your fullname, like your middle name.
You come here right now. Ohokay, that's that voice. Yeah,
yes, okay, that makes senseto me. One way to think about

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it too, it's like it's arelationship between you, your higher self,
your whole purpose for being. Yourintuition is like your GPS guiding your life.
It's not it doesn't know where youwant to go. You say where
you want to go, and itsays, oh, I'll help you get
there. Let's go here, let'sgo there. Who don't marry that man?
Come over here. So it worksthat way, and so in the

(24:48):
relationship with your intuition, have conversationsand ask questions, but don't ask your
intuition to do your work for you. In other words, don't ask for
answers like a serial Google. Hey, intuition, how about so you have
converse with your intuition and you askfor insight, help me understand more about

(25:12):
such? What can I know aboutthis? That could be helpful as long
as you know that the buck stopswith you as decision maker. So I
don't want to hear from anyone,certainly anyone I have taught how to use
the intuition. I don't want toever hear anyone say my intuition said.
No, you have a relationship.You listen to your intuition, and then

(25:33):
you decide what to do with it. Right, that's discernment. So we
ask for insight. We say thankyou for what it tells us we might
need. When I think of aquest. When we're on a quest,
we want to go somewhere like ourGPS we put in the GPS. I
want to go here. Please helpme along the way. Sometimes people will

(25:57):
say to me, I don't hearanything from my intuition. What are you
working on? What are you learningor where are you growing? And they're
like, I'm waiting for my intuitionto tell me. So that's like saying
to the GPS, I'm just goingto park, you tell me where we're
going. Doesn't work like that.So this is what I would call power

(26:18):
keeping in the relationship with your intuition. And the more that you keep your
own power and engage in the relationship, your intuition will often be much more
willing to communicate with you. Ifwe just said whatever you tell me I'm
going to do, it's not safe. We wouldn't do that with a person.

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I often tell this sort of sillystory when I teach intuition about discernment,
which is about a woman who waswanting to eat healthily and be well,
and she'd done really very well.She was only eating like really good,
lively fruits and vegetables. And whatshe did in discipline was she went
down a different street than the bakerythat she used to go to for donuts.

(27:02):
And this was part of her maintainingher health and while being doing these
different habits. But then one dayshe accidentally found herself on that street,
right near that bakery, and shesaid, God must want me to have
some donuts. And she said,God, if you want me to have
some donuts, open a parking placeright nearby. And what do you know,

(27:27):
the thirty third time she went aroundthe block there was a parking place.
So I'm being very rude, Butthat's discernment, is like the difference
between oh, something that must bemeant to be compared to my intuition is
guiding me in this direction, butI still have the steering wheel. Yeah.

(27:51):
I love that because our last chatwas about good enough thinking where people,
especially in the terms of wellness.I had lots of very interesting conversations
with people in different stages of healingfrom autoimmune and sometimes I get to this
plateau where they don't have their alltheir health back or whatever. They're dealing

(28:11):
with numerous things like juggling many typesof things. Now it's that I can
go WHOA could be better Earth.There's all sorts of interventions possibly, but
they're stuck in this good enough thinking. And that reminded me of the GPS
kind of going GPS, tell mewhere we're going today, kind of where
you can get to this place inyour mind. But it's certainly not like

(28:32):
it was my health, my healing, my whatever. You know, this
is good enough. I'll hang outhere. But I always like to ask
myself the question this isn't my intuition? I ask myself, maybe I don't
know. Are they different? Idon't know anyway, I asked myself seriously,
at this place, and you're healing, you're still giving up an awful

(28:55):
lot, and you haven't even tryingto see if you can get there be
willing to ask for more. Oftentimeswe were afraid of being disappointed, but
that sense of where would I reallylike to go? And then pay attention
to the signs along the way?Does my car naturally slow down? Here
is something telling me to change lanes? We pay attention in that way.

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What's fascinating to me that I'm wonderingabout though? When we get to that
place of that good enough, thisis good enough thinking. I've had people
say I just want my old lifeback, and I've always wondered, what
is it? It's sometimes trying totell us maybe your old life. I
don't understand that concept of my oldlife. I really think of all the

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things I've done since the diagnosis thatwould not have happened, and they were
all good things. Yeah, thediagnosis sucks. Okay, I'm not gonna
sugarcoat that part, but yeah,it was it was a direct turn,
quit going one way and took avery decisive turn. But when somebody says

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you want your old life back,I'm like, no, not really,
I wouldn't have met all the amazingpeople I've met. I wouldn't be doing
the show. This is amazing tome. And when I encourage people to
not get stuck in that good enoughthinking. And that's what your comment about
the GPS and okay, GPS takeme somewhere got me thinking about. Right.

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So I love to connect questions withquest because you can interview your intuition.
You can ask questions for insight.As we've said, not necessarily answers
because you're the boss of you,but you can ask questions like, okay,
so this situation, what can Ilearn from this? Does this help
me to be more of who Iam? Or how can I be sure

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I am myself given this situation whichwould tempt me to perhaps be feel something
differently. So we get to continueto engage with the intuition, and so
think of it as intuition a teacherinside of us. It's our own inner
teacher, and so we can askquestions to say, what can I know
about this? Or I'm considering thisis a response. Do I feel like

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hush relief? Yep, that's right. Doesn't mean it's easy, but it
feels right. So our bodies arecontinually letting us know when we're in alignment
with intuition. And I make myliving from working with intuition. I've made
my life's work. Do I alwaysget it right? No? No,
And there I would say, eitherasking the wrong question or being fixed on

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the answer or the inside we thinkwe ought to have. So joke's on
me. So here here, Iam a person who's very intuitive. I
speak with people who are on theother side. My sensitivity is part of
my work. I didn't know Iwas pregnant. Interestingly, I did not

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you. But when I my firstpregnancy, I knew within about twenty four
to forty eight hours. Like someI didn't know it was pregnant, though
I knew something was different, somethingwas up right, something changed. And
see how your sensitivity. You paidattention. You're like, what is this?
Yeah, but I was so young, in naive, I didn't realize
what that meant. One thing wasgoing on. Oh yeah, I know

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something was going on, And ofcourse, in the course of a few
weeks, oh that's what that meant. Yes, And that often is the
case with intuition, is you'll havea certain feeling. If your logical mind
tries to get in there and makeit logic, often that makes a mess
of it. But afterwards we'll belike, oh, that's what that was
about, or so we can haverear view more accuracy in hindsight. But

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that's also useful. So then thenext time you have that sort of feeling,
you hang on a minute, what'sgoing on here? You ask a
question of it. So like forme in that instance, I kept justifying
we'd flown to South Africa. Ikept thinking, Man, I feel terrible.
I've never had jetlag like this before. Had I asked, is this

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jet lag? No? I keptgoing, I kept justifying it. And
then it was time to take malariatablets to go into an area to go
to look for wildlife, and wehave the tablets on the table, and
my body was like, Nope,you're not taking that. And finally I
said, oh, am I pregnant. Duh. Just a reassurance to everyone

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who's using your intuition. It's notcompletely bullproof, especially if the logical mind
wants to be smart. But yeah, so even that could happen. But
a question helps us on a quest, a question like is this for my
highest good? Does this help mebe more of who I am? Is
there anything else I can understand?In this dynamic, very open questions that

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help you to gain insight. Yourintuition is only too happy to assist.
Now I want to tell this fullcircle and go back to dreams for a
second. So can you ask thequestion like right before bad? Yes,
and maybe I don't know, Maybeyou won't dream about it then maybe it's
a week later, or maybe neverdream about But and you ask a question

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before bad when things are like quiet, you can really focus. Yep,
you can say, in my rest, help me to gain insight about such
and such, help me understand dD. Give me some awareness that will
for the highest good. You absolutelycan. It's like an intention. And
then have fun with and be opento all the ways that your dream can

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meet you were your intention? Yes, Oh wow, that's fascinating. Yeah,
yeah it is. We're amazing humanbeings and this engagement, this connection,
asking a question in order to understandmore fully or to be enlightened or
to be informed. If we thinkof life as a school, and we'll

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ask questions in order to learn.There's all the kind of support for that.
And speaking of school, one thingI wish I had done because,
as I'd mentioned to you, andI recently had three very vivid dreams,
and one of them I remember asif it was like in process now.
The other one there's some vague referencesin the third, while when I woke

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up, I was like, wow, I'll never forget that. I promptly
did. So is there benefit towriting some of these down where you're like,
wow, that was really more vividthan my usual dream, or that
was really more that was different thanmy usual dream. Make notes, and
ideally make notes before you get up, so that you're still mostly in that

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state. Some people who study dreamssay that once you get up, the
dream falls out of your feet.You change your state. So even have
either a voice recorder, will youjust tell it into there or quickly jot
down some things, or if youhave someone who's a good listener, in
other words, they just listen,tell your whole dream, because you'll hear

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your self tell it, and you'llhear yourself say, oh, this detail
or that detail. But writing isexcellent because you can always go back to
it. So funny you say that, about four months before my first grandchild
was born, I had a veryvivid dream, very vivid. It was
like a whole children's book in myhead, and so much so that at

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about two am, I popped outof bed and beb I kidne not.
I went and looked up the urlbecause the name of the book was in
my head, just Pinky Chanel andthe Rainbow Hunters. And it's become a
thing. We're writing a second booknow, and it's so funny. What
happened, guys, is I wrotedown the story in my head. I
wrote it all down after the dotcom was available. I don't know that's

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things that I'm thinking twenty years ago, thirty years ago, we wouldn't have
done that. But anyway, Iguess I wanted to look it up because
I'm thinking, oh, that wasa really a great story, thinking that
I had unconsciously seen it somewhere orsomething. What was fascinating to me was
the whole story was in my head. But then actually putting it into play

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was not as easy as it soundedin my head, as it took four
years for the book to come tolife and I'm thinking about that is in
our own dreams and we come upwith these things. Like I said,
Pinky Chaniel in my head and whatI wrote down was a great story,
but it was not a great children'sbook. And so that's fascinating to me.

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How like the idea was good,the base was good, but it
needed all this extra fluff and work, yes, and bringing it into the
world into a certain way. Butthere are people, like a lot of
musicians will say they'll wake up withthe tune and get up and write it
down or put capture it in someway. So I love that, Ernie,

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did you capture your Pinky Shanil?Here she is in the world.
Came to you in a dream?Absolutely? Absolutely. What was interesting is
I didn't even know that I washaving a granddaughter. And in the story
there was a little sidekick, alittle girl's sidekick to the story, and
that was so fascinating to me.But like I said, the dream was

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all there, It was very clear, at least I thought it was.
But actually to bring it into realitywas a whole different ride that I hadn't
expected. A lot of things,a lot of prison turns that weren't really
clear. Amazing yeah, you stillget to navigate it, but I love
how to arrive to you. I'mthinking of how thinking of this idea of

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what if a dream could we missits meaning? And I was noodling on
that and then thinking about firstly howspecific a dream is to our own lexicon,
which is the same way spirit guidestalk to us. Give us a
symbol that has meaning to us thatsomebody else might not, it'll be in
your own language typically, But evenif a dream metaphor is not clearly spelling

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out the thing, if you're ina state of openness to say, boy,
that was a weird dream, isthere anything more I can understand or
know from that? Is it somethingI'm missing? Your intuition will help you
fill in the blanks. And thereason I'm thinking of that is years ago
when I was teaching intuition in reallife in a hotel space as we used

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to do before Zoom, I usedto have a pile of photographs and we
would play this game mostly just toloosen up what people thought about metaphor,
and the whole idea was just tohave some fun. And someone would take
a photograph and say, ooh,the message of this card and maybe it
was see an Enemies and the personwould just make up a meaning for the

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card and we'd all go ooh.It was fun, part of loosening up
our creativity, imagination and intuition.And one of the classes there was a
woman and the picture on the cardwas almost nothing at all, was out
of focus, you couldn't really tell, and she went, oh, okay,
I know I'm supposed to give upsmoking. And I remember looking she

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got that from that, but no, her intuition it was. That was
how she finally decided, Okay,I will hear what my intuition is telling
me. The picture had nothing todo with anything. That's my reassurance that
even if we can't understand the dream, if we're open to whatever we're supposed
to know, it's going to comeone way or another. I had a

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little hit on that what was fascinating. So it was all fuzzy and all
of that. I grew up inan air with smoking in the car,
smoking in the elevator, smoking inthe doctor's office. I'm thinking of how
as a little child, how fuzzythe air was down there. It wasn't
always crystal clearest sideline aside in acar when you've got two parents and spoke,

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I don't know that was where mymind when you said it was all
fuzzy, I'm like, a goodpoint. It just tickled me that somewhere
her unconscious mind and her intuition waslying in wait for any opportunity to have
it. Her conscious mind go Okay, I got it. So I take
that as reassurance said, if wemiss it, your intuition is not going

(41:23):
to let you misunderstand something and notget your message. The more that you
can pay attention, the more thatyou can quiet the mind and listen,
you're going to get it. Youwill hear it or see it or feel
it. So we've talked about thevoices and the feelings and dreams, and

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I wanted to throw something out becausethe other day it happened to me and
I wasn't really clear, and honestlyI regretted I didn't act on it.
But what is deja vou? Ihave this weird feeling like I've been here
before but I hadn't been yes,or I know just what they're going to
say. Yeah, I honestly can'treally explain it, like in science y
terms, but I think most everyone of us has had that experience,

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and it's so odd, and Ithink quantum physicists can say there's no such
thing as time on a line,like everything is happening simultaneously, and it's
almost like a little tear in thespace time continuum that we jump ahead and
we're like, oh, I knowexactly what's going to happen here. I'd
love to know more, but Ican't shed any more light on it than

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that, because I was fascinated byso much so that I made a phone
call because it was like it wasone of those moments where I went,
wait a minute, I was expectingbad news. I don't know why,
so I made a phone call andluckily there was no bad news. So
it was just a weird moment.But honestly, even though I'm happy it

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didn't pan out, I felt relieved. And maybe that's part of that autonomic
nervous system part just wanted to feela safety thing. I don't know,
just just check in, make sureeverything's good, and wherever you can breeze.
I think that's one of the body'sgreatest indicator of all is really well.
I have time to breathe deeply andfully. Everything likes that, our

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bodies like it, our intuition likesit, like it's quieting. Yeah,
oh wow, now we're down toabout seven minutes. I see the lucky
seven to eleven minutes on and Iwanted to just open it up for we've
just gone a whole wide range.I know it wasn't what I'd lay the

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groundwork a little bit for BEV,and as usual, we just went down
numerous rabbit holes. But what wouldyou like to share with the audience about
trusting their intuition knowing it's intuition andwe can even talk about dreams. I
would say, have a fun andproductive relationship with your intuition. It's almost
like a relationship with a good friend. That how you have a shorthand with

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a good friend, when you talkoften and you're up to date with each
other's lives. You could phone andjust go, hey, you don't need
a whole preamble. We wouldn't ignorea friend for fifteen years and then call
up and say, hey, whatdo you think about such and such?
What can you give me? Theanswer to be just incredibly rude and not
very productive. So to have arelationship with your intuition is to take time

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to consider how am I feeling aboutthis? What do I know if I
knew, if I knew what itfelt to as I walk in this house?
What is it that I know whenI sit with a friend listen as
people often want to be able tohear their intuition as beef up your hearing,
your listening skills with a person rightin front of you, so that

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you're not expecting yourself to listen inbetween the lines and a deeper plane when
just basic listening. So crank upyour capacity to listen you hear between the
lines. Have a friendly relationship withyour intuition in which you're tuition absolutely wants
the best for you. She's you'rein a teacher. So you treat your

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intuition and your perceptions with respect.It doesn't always matter about like sometimes people
are concerned about always being right?Is my intuition right? I would say,
when you're developing your relationship with yourintuition, a more useful question is
it helpful? Is it helpful?Because accuracy is a different thing, and

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it puts us in the realm ofwrong, good, bad, mistake insight
helpfulness softens it in such a wayand then when we remember that we're the
boss of us. We're inquiring fromour intuition, we're asking it to support
us, but the buck stops herewith our discernment what we decide to do.

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Your intuition can be more freely speakingwith you knowing that you're responsible for
what you do with it. Soit's a relationship, and it's a wonder
relationship that helps you to get toknow yourself more fully because spoiler alert,
that's our one job to be ourselves. There isn't a dummies book on how

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to be you. Particularly, thereisn't a YouTube on how to be you
Like you are discovering the unss ofyou, and your intuition is in service
of that. So when you becomemore of you by listening to your intuition,
everybody happy. One quick final question. Is it a weird habit that

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I always say thank you to myintuition? Not at all? Okay,
that's a friendly relationship and actually sayit out loud. I'll go thank you,
thank you. Yes, it's afriendly relationship exactly. I've been caught
saying it out loud and people arelike, no, it's part of that
respect that includes you and respecting yourperceptions that sometimes there will be something you'll

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think. I'm not sure that anyoneelse could agree with this, but it's
true for me. And so thatwas in a respect is there time to
talk about a story of someone recentlyyou had a dream that saved their life?
Sure, yeah, I go forit. Yeah, And under the
guise of respecting your perceptions. Thiswas a person that's an actor called Mark
Ruffalo, who we all know inlove and I don't suppose he'd call himself

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particularly intuitive, but apparently while justbefore giving birth to their child, he
had a dream that and in thedream, a quiet, calm voice just
said to him, you have abrain tumor. And he was like,
that is and actually he was thatas weird. So he spoke to someone

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that he trusted and said, Ithink I'm going crazy. I had this
dream. And the person advised,and will go and get it checked out,
and then you'll know you're crazy.And it was just a dream or
and you had checked out by aneurologist, and he did, in fact
have a brain tumor, and theywere able to to get to it early
and take care of things. SoI say this in that if he kept

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saying I had a crazy dream instead, he said, hmm, what can
I know about that? Even thoughhe may not ever have been considered himself
someone who talks to intuition, I'mso glad he acted on that. And
the reason I mentioned that his wifewas due, he didn't want to worry
her until the baby was born andeverything, so he quite privately took care

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of business. And then of coursehe had had the surgery a little bit
later, but quite a calm,clear dream just giving him the information that
he needed. Wow, that's amazing. So to be able to sort out
all of the different voices in ourheads and hear those that come in calm,

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clear voices. It's interesting you saythat, because the ones I've had
are often that calm, clear voice. So to me, it's when I
hear that very calm, non argumentativeon the jord of just that calm,
clear voice giving a fact somehow I'vebeen trained, as we mentioned, it's

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like coming to that mom voice sparkingmy attention to it. Oh my goodness,
we're just about out of time.BEV with you. I know we
wander everywhere community, and I lovethat you come on these wandering journeys.
With us and just explore. Putin the comments here if you would,
some of your insights and moments ofintuition. I'd love to read your stories

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that you have had moments where youheard that calm, clear voice and you
went aha and acted on it.So beb share how everyone could get a
hold of you, your website,things like that. Thanks Sharon, thanks
so much for these. I'm alwaysinspired by you. My website is www.
Bevmartin dot com and that's the easiestplace to find me, and you

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can when you're there sign up formy daily words of wisdom if you like,
or a handout I have which isa way to ask yourself some questions
of your intuition, so when you'rewrestling with something, some guidelines about how
to listen carefully to your intuition.Your intuition is working perfectly and can be

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