Did Lisa Warner Unlock the Power of Self-Healing?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Making things easier to deal with, especially when it comes
to our physical health, is to change the way we
perceive things. We have simply been taught that our bodies
are being attacked by diseases. Go in further and we
start to actually look at what's happening. Our bodies are

(00:24):
literally responding to our emotional input.

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Speaker 4 (01:22):
Welcome everyone to the Autoimmune Hour. I'm Sharon Sailor from
sharonsailor dot com and from Understanding Autoimmune dot com, where
you can find over Now, I think we're four hundred
and ninety. Oh my gosh, we're closing in on five
hundred episodes of the show. And if you have any inkling,
go check it out. We've got a really interesting topic
and I've met a fantastic person. And don't you just

(01:43):
love it when your friends and past guests call you
and say, hey, I've got a guest for you. I
do because I think that's fantastic. It's our community that
knows some of the most amazing people, and maybe you're
one of those amazing people too. I won't say maybe.
I know my audiences. I know our community here is amazing.
So thank you for joining us. Let me quickly read

(02:04):
her bio for you. I want to read it till
I make sure it's correct. And apologies if my face
gets too close to the camera. Our guest today is
Lisa Warner and she is an award winning international best
selling author, speaker, and featured teacher in the seven time
award winning documentary The Inside Effects How the Body Heals Itself.

(02:26):
Love that title, and it's a great documentary and it's
one seven Awards Amazing And Lisa's book is called The
Simplicity of Self Healing, now in its tenth anniversary edition.
Her book has helped readers around the world to see
both disease and healing as a different perspective and to
recognize the incredible self healing abilities our bodies have. And

(02:49):
I am so on board with that. I'm curious about
and we've chatted a little bit, but I'm curious to
go deeper into her modalities and her understanding of self healing.
But I knew that when I got my diagnosis a
decade ago, if I'd followed the exact protocol I had
been given, I probably wouldn't be as spry as I

(03:10):
am today because I've tried to adopt a lot of
possibilities and a lot of what I don't know, what if.
And so that's where we're going to go today. We're
going to find out some ways of self healing and
understanding ourselves at a deeper level. I'm always a believer
of understanding ourselves and others at a deeper level is
always a good thing. So Lisa's core message is that

(03:33):
we all have the power to heal ourselves and that
healing the body is literally an inside job. So welcome Lisa,
thanks for being on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Thank you so much, Sharon for having me. It's a
pleasure to be here.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Oh my goodness, it's fantastic. I know we've chatted a
little bit. You have the most amazing survivor to Thriver's story.
We just love these stories because it shows us possibilities
and these what ifs, and these opportunities for us to
go with one. I'll say, even sometimes one simple little change,
the whole world changes. Tell us a little bit about

(04:07):
yourself and your story.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I grew up as a healthy, fit athlete. I had
a body that just did anything that I asked of it.
I was a highly skilled figure skater, and so I
could jump through the air and spin like a top
and do all kinds of cool things with this incredible body.
But at the same time, when it came to trying
to adult and get a job and earn a living,

(04:32):
I wasn't nearly as adept at doing all of that
as I was at figure skating. And even though I
taught figure skating and taught some did some amazing things
in the figure skating world when it came to money
and relationships and just being in this incredibly crazy world
that we live in, like, I was not functioning nearly

(04:55):
as well as I would have enjoyed functioning. And so
I've really found myself struggling. Mostly. I was really struggling
with money, and I was really trying. I was really
struggling trying to fit in because my view of the
world was very different than pretty much everybody else around me.

(05:15):
I had started out as a very little girl. When
I would go to sleep at night, I would just
find myself in the space of light and unconditional love,
and it was just this incredibly beautiful space of being.
And I knew that space is God. This is where

(05:40):
all life comes from, and it is just so beautiful.
And if you listen to people's stories of who have
near death experiences, they described the same basic thing. There's
just so much light and so much love. And from
that space, I knew that space is forever an eternal,
and I knew that space is where we come and

(06:02):
go from. And I knew that I could turn around,
so to speak, from that space, and I could look
at the Earth and I could see all of the
wars all of the fighting of the whose God is
better than whose? And I could see that humanity was
not really remembering this space. I could actually see the amnesia.

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So I felt very safe, unsafe from a very early
age because I knew that people who spoke about this
space a lot of times they'd met with a very
unsavory ending.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
And as a little person, I'm just thinking, what a
huge concept I guess, I would say, as a little person,
and getting people to believe you, or or unfortunately maybe
them trying to educate you. I want to stress inducing environment.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Absolutely, because even though I lived in a lovely small
town lots of nature, it was a lovely environment. There
was a lot of great things. I grew up in
Lake Placid, New York, with the Olympics and that Olympic spirit,
and there was a lot of From the outside, my
life looked phenomenal. However, on the inside, like I knew

(07:25):
that nobody around me knew what I knew, and I
knew that it really wasn't safe for me to know
what I knew, and I wasn't going to be able
to really connect to other people through that lens. So
as a very little girl, I decided that I was
going to have to give up my inner knowing just

(07:45):
in order to fit in and to survive. So that
was the setup for my lifetime. When I found myself
really not surviving very well in the world and just
really struggling, and then finding myself facing cancer, I thought,
I can't do this. I can't continue down this path

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because one of the things that I saw as a
little girl, I could see all of the old people
in the nursing homes, in bodies that were not functioning,
and so I could see that they were just these
deathwatch facilities, and I knew, beyond the shadow of a doubt,
I was not where we were supposed to be. That

(08:31):
was not the pardon me, the divine design, and I
knew that our bodies were supposed to live a very
long time. But when I looked around the world, was like, wow,
nobody's really doing that. So I just figured I must
be wrong, I must be crazy. I'm just gonna go

(08:51):
along with the program and just do what everybody else does.
You know what, I can't do what everybody else does,
and already heal. I have to remember what I knew
at two years old.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Gosh, first, that's so sad, and yet I've heard stories
similar to that where people said I gave up a
part of me to fit in over here or over there.
And I've often wondered if part of that stress of
giving up part of yourself to me, it makes sense
that it would lead to some sort of disease within

(09:24):
the body structure of the flow of the natural flow
of things.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Absolutely, Oh my gosh, there was a great deal of
shame that I had for giving up my inner knowing
that was one of the burdens that I was carrying,
was shame and guilt for not being able to be
who I truly am now.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Was that self applied or was that coming from somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
It was also reflected in the world around me with
a family member who was very critical and judgmental of
me all the time, and because I didn't see the
same way that they saw, I was always wrong. So
that just served to early dig in that shame, and

(10:13):
you know, thinking that I was supposed to be some
incredible version of myself that I couldn't possibly ever live
up to.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
That's interesting to me because a lot of times I
hear from other people with these wonderful survivor to thrivers'
stories is similar things like other people were telling me
how it was supposed to be, or other people were
telling me what was I'll put in their quotes the truth,
and yet it never rang true for that person. It's
interesting to use shame, that's a fascinating one to me,

(10:44):
but the incredible amount of stress that it put on
them and trying to fit into a world they didn't
fit into. I'm going to go tangentle on just really quickly,
because there was a couple of lines in your book
that I wrote down here and I think it fits
in here really well. And that was a part of
your book where we're talking about the dimensions of that
cause pain and that there are two sides to every

(11:07):
coin and you have to take the bad with the good,
And that was not your quote. It was You're just
talking about this old saying out there that there were
two sides to every coin, and I resonated with that.
I've heard that since childhood, that idea. Talk to us
about why that isn't true.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
The coin is the coin, the body is the body
will bring it around to health and healing. Like our
body is our body, and what our bodies do is
what our bodies do under the given circumstances. In any moment,
your body is doing something, and when you're looking at
the body doing that something as a bad something, then

(11:53):
we perceive the whole thing that our body is doing
as something bad. But when we can flip it over
and see, but we can also look at that as
the body is actually healing, the body is doing something good.
If the body is creating a tumor, for example, the
body is creating that for a reason, and we can

(12:14):
look at that reason as something negative, that we're being
attacked by some disease, and then that becomes our experience.
But when we can flip it around and we go, oh,
my body's doing exactly what it's designed to do under
the circumstances I'm providing. Let me provide a different set
of circumstances, then we start to understand that there's nothing

(12:38):
to fight in our bodies. The symptom is exactly the same,
but we can look at it as disease or we
can look at it as healing.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I've always looked at symptoms like messages or hello, pay
attention here. Oftentimes people say it came out of the blue.
And then as we begin to go backwards and dissect it.
There were many choice points. We'll use the word tumor,
before the tumor that there were many opportunities a body

(13:09):
might have been knocking and going hello before. But it's
only in the listening that we can and knowing how
to listen, that we can actually begin change before it
becomes mission critical where I think this goes. What about you?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, the symptoms and signs show up as being feeling uncomfortable.
It shows up as feelings I eat, emotions, energies, emotion, anxiety, fear, doubt, guilt, shame, blame, anger, rage, resentment.

(13:47):
All of these negative or highly charged emotions are signs
and symptoms. And there are signs and symptoms that we're
thinking something that is out of alignment with our soul.
Because who we are as grand beings of light is
pure love and light, peace, ease, harmony, joy, like all

(14:10):
those things that feel really good because they're in alignment
with who we are. They're in harmony with who we
are as a soul. But the anger, blame, shame, guilt, rage, resentment,
all of those things, it don't really feel good in
our bodies, but we're taught to just ignore that, and

(14:30):
those things are always the things that precede a physical
change in our bodies because we're not meant to carry
that baggage around because we have learned to stuff our emotions,
say in our backpack it's oh my gosh, I'm feeling
so much shame. But I don't know what to do
with that. I don't know how to get rid of it.

(14:51):
So I'm just going to put it back here in
my backpack, and I'm just going to pretend that it's
not there, because if I pretend that it's not there,
maybe it'll go away. Unfortunately, that's really not how it works.
But what as we have more and more kind of
these rocks in our backpack, the body eventually goes, hey,
you got a bunch of rocks back here. And in

(15:14):
order for me to carry these rocks, I have to
change because if we have a really heavy backpack, our
posture changes. Right, So it's not a literal backpack, but
it's all of these heavy emotions, and our bodies change
with all of these emotions. So if we have a

(15:36):
fear of death, for example, we have something like really
active as oh my gosh, I wonder if I'm going
to die or I wonder if my spouse or my
parents is going to die, and we have a lot
of charged energy in that our lungs respond to that
particular fright. When we're worried about that, about breathing the

(15:59):
breath of life or not breathing the breath of life,
the lungs start to build extra cells so that we
have better chance of continuing to breathe the breath of life,
whether it's us or somebody else. The body doesn't discern
our thoughts. Our thoughts are our thoughts. Our bodies respond
to our thought patterns. So this is one of the

(16:21):
reasons why lung cancers. I think it's the second most
common cancer. It's because you get a first diagnosis and
you go, oh my gosh, am I gonna die? And
then the lungs start creating these extra cells.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh, I can see where that you're holding your breath
basically impactly. And I know from my trainings in the
unconscious too. Just to bring it around to is that
since the unconscious doesn't have a sense of time, it
really doesn't matter when those stressors started. Will continue to

(16:55):
act as if it's still happening, unless we work to
real least that energy. Now, I find this interesting that
the idea of the symptoms, whether they are ours or
some loved ones or someone else with in our world,
how those would affect our unconscious and our body responses

(17:15):
is also fascinating that we could have a physical experience
based on a loved one having a diagnosis that was
less than positive.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Because it's our emotional input that our body is responding to.
So no matter where the input is coming from, it's
still being thought in our thinkers, right right, So it's
still our stuff. When we're allowing ourselves to get pulled
off balance and go into feared out shame, blame, worry,

(17:48):
that's on us. Like we don't have to take on
other people's things. We can still hold space for them.
We can still be in a space of balance, even
if they're going through a heart time.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
It's a little more difficult A excuse me, it's a
little more difficult A if it's a loved one, or
be if it's yourself. Two. And to hold those positive thoughts.
Do you have any tips for people to be able
to hold those thoughts? Oftentimes? I have found the road

(18:23):
to catastrophic thinking was much quicker and faster and easier
than any other for out of positive thinking.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Absolutely, because we're programs with that. There's catastrophic thinking everywhere
being broadcast all the time and reinforced. Absolutely. Yes, So yeah,
I have two answers to that. My first answer is
to realize that that we are souls, eternal beings, first

(18:50):
and foremost. We can't be not our soul. The soul
is non physical, it is eternal, and being human is
just an experience that we, as the soul, are having,
so ultimately there really is no death even if the
body stops. We are not these bodies. We are the
souls animating the bodies. So no matter what experience we

(19:14):
have here in the physical realm, we keep on going.
Even when we finish this one experience, we go on
to another one. Sometimes people can wrap their mind around that,
and sometimes they can't. This is all part of becoming
healthy again is to recognize who we actually are here

(19:35):
on this planet. And the other way of making things
easier to deal with, especially when it comes to our
physical health, is to change the way we perceive things.
Because we have simply been taught that our bodies are
being attacked by diseases. But when we go in further

(19:58):
and we start to actually look at what's happening. Our
bodies are literally responding to our emotional input. So our
bodies are literally on our side, and our bodies are
morphing and changing based on our thought patterns, our morphogenic field.

(20:19):
So whatever is happening in our morphogenic field, our aura,
our non physical parts, the non physical is impacting the physical.
The physical is responding to the non physical input. So
everything the body does is bio logical. Our bodies are

(20:43):
bio logical. Everything they do is logical. But if we
have been taught that, oh, your body's doing some things
being attacked by a disease, we bypass the logic and
we go straight into the program. Now we just live
out that story that we have been told, even though

(21:05):
the story is not true.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
There are so many questions I have, Lisa, but we
need to take a quick commercial break, and during that
break I will put my question into some sort of
logical place. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 (22:58):
Welcome all well before you have used.

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Speaker 4 (23:06):
Welcome out she Welcome back everyone to the Autoimmune Hour.
I'm Sharon Sailor from Sharonsailor dot com and of course
Understanding Autoimmune dot com. And I'm here with Lisa Warner
and she is an award winning international best selling author, speaker,
and featured teacher in the seven time award winning documentary

(23:28):
The Inside Effects How the Body Heals itself. And Lisa
not that I disagree at all in my ten years
of healing or my whole lifetime of healing, because in hindsight,
I realized my first autoimmune was when I was sixteen
years old, but it was not labeled that way. In hindsight,
I'm glad, but who knows where my unconscious, conscious mind

(23:50):
and everything else at that young age would have ended
up differently. However, I just have so many questions about
I think the first one is, I think your sense
of knowing is quite unique. What tips do you have
for people that they can get to that actual place
of knowing?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
There has to be a desire to discover your knowing.
So for me, when I knew a lot of stuff
when I was two years old, I was still directly
connected to source, which is amazing. Babies that are born
are connected to source. But because we believe that life

(24:31):
begins when we pop out of the womb, and that
the babies are just a completely blank slate and don't
know anything. We just assume that babies don't know anything,
We assume that they need to be taught. But if
our consciousness was actually allowed to develop naturally, we would

(24:53):
retain our natural connection to source. So when I found
myself well facing this cancer, I knew that the medical
root was not for me to me is.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
It incredibly brave? I want to go to gentle for quick.
I know I'm not coming from your perspective completely. I'm
on board, and I believe it because I've lived it
for the last ten years. However, I think that's really
a brave thing to do.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Of well, I don't know if it was brave or
whether I was just scared to death of the whole idea,
But by that time I had really started to understand
that we are creator beings. We create our own reality.
Like I didn't know how I had created that, but
I knew that I did not want to live that

(25:47):
story of cancer. I didn't want anything to do with
that as my life story. So I knew just instinctually
that if I went medical route, meaning you go to
the doctor, you do the chemo you do, the radiation,
those are all part of cancer, and cancer and health

(26:11):
are two totally different things. I didn't want anything to
do with that reality. I didn't want to have anything
to do with generating that as my reality. So I
knew that I couldn't go that route, that I had
to take a different route. I needed health and I
needed to know how to be the master of my

(26:33):
own molecules. And I knew that nobody else was going
to teach me how to be the master of my
own molecules. I was going to have to get that
directly from my higher self, from God, source, universe, soul,
whatever word you want to put on it. I needed
my higher intelligence to drop in and show me how

(26:55):
to be a masterful human. So I decided to start
medicating every day, and I asked the question, what do
I need to know about this in order for it
to change? And I sat in that question every single
day until the answer actually just dropped right in and

(27:19):
it was clear as a bell that and the answer was, Hey, Lisa,
your body is not being attacked by some killer disease.
Your body is functioning exactly the way it is designed
to function. It is responding to your emotional input. You've

(27:43):
got shame, blame, fear, doubt. I'm struggling. I don't know
what to do. You have all of this in your
energy field, and that is in forming your body. Your
body is forming itself to match those inputs. And in
that moment, I knew, beyond the shadow of doubt that

(28:04):
was true. I knew instantly that there was nothing wrong
with my body. What was wrong was the input that
was coming in that I had to change the way
I thought. I needed to change my consciousness and become
a more masterful creator.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Which is fascinating to me. A couple of weeks ago,
we had Marcus bird on. I talked about meditation and
the power of meditation and how transformative it is. I
liked your definition of the word inform. I had never
thought of it that way, that in you're creating things
in form. I love that definition. Thank you for sharing that.

(28:45):
I love these moments. The audience knows I'm a word nerd,
so I love these moments. A wow. So in form like, yeah,
but you're also creating it in form and is that
really what you want to be doing?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Exactly? And look at all the information that is being
broadcast on a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Absolutely, whether it's through your friends going I heard, or
of course social media going the latest, greatest, and then
of course we can always go back to the good,
trusted white Cote authority.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So when we look at all the information that we
absorb on a daily basis, that is, oh my gosh,
oh no, what's going to happen? Oh my god. If
we are absorbing that, we are literally in forming ourselves
and our lives with that's coming at us. We're allowing

(29:45):
the external world to shape our reality for us. And
it's come time right now. From my perspective, this is
the great awakening. This is the time of the great
shift from the you go to the age of darkness
back into the age of light. It is the inn

(30:06):
lightening ourselves, turning our own light back on, noticing our
higher intelligence and starting to allow peace and ease to
come back in. And that's up to us is to
be able to draw in and draw forth the peace,

(30:29):
the ease, the joy that is already inside.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
My inner word nerd is jumping out here too. I
love the how you describe the enlightening turning on the
inner light as you said, the word in enlightning. Though
before you mentioned the inner light, my brain went to
that topic of lightning, like lightning, the load, loosening, giving up,
not as heavy lightning.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yes, joy, ease, peace, happiness, curiosity, excitement, and enthusiasm. Those
all feel really great. They're uplifting, they're lightening us because
we are literally beings of light. We're literally made of light.
If you put any part of the body under an
electron microscope and get all the way down to the

(31:17):
cellular structure, it's all light. We're literally not as solid
as we appear to be. So, as beings of light,
it is up to us to in inside lighten ourselves,
to become the light that we truly.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Are amazing now to do that, and I understand that
topic of meditation was that it. I mean that in
a way, that's amazing, But I'm like, it seems so simple.
I'm overthinking this, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's called the simplicity of self healing. Okay, really not difficult,
But it was really a shift of perspective. I stopped
looking at the physical stuff and I started looking at
the energy. I started noticing my emotions, emotion, energy, emotion, emotion.

(32:10):
I started looking at the emotions. I started looking at
am I afraid? Do I have fear in my energy field?
Because I noticed that the energy field, our morphogenic field,
our aura, whatever you want to call it. So I
call it the globe. My logo. Here is a person
meditating inside a snow globe. That snow globe represents our

(32:33):
energy field. Nice and anything that's inside our energy field
gets reflected back to us in the external world. So
we are literally informing the molecules around us as to
what we expect to see, but we're allowing the external

(32:53):
world to inform us. So what I started to do
is I started to look, do I have fear? Do
I have fear in my energy field? Okay, there's some fear.
Let me gather the fear up from my energy field.
I started visualizing it like a little black cloud in
my energy field, and I would start gathering it up

(33:16):
in one space and I would clear it out and
I would I'd started clearing my energy field just using
some just very simple techniques. You just visualize it. It's
really all it comes down to. So I started clearing
my energy field. I was having anxiety attacks. I was
having these panic attacks, and I was like, oh my gosh,

(33:38):
and it would It would literally devastate me for a
few days, like I would just go and hide in
my house for days and not come out. So I
was having these like horrific panic attacks. And so pretty
soon I started to understand, wait a second, this is
a frequency that my body is feeling, because I started
to notice that every time there was a soul flare

(34:00):
it was like at the height of the solar flares
years ago, and I was like, every time there was
a solar flare, I would start to feel anxious. And
I was like, wait a second, my body is feeling frequency.
So this anxiety is a frequency. I don't need to
let that override me. So I started breathing through it, and
I started breathing it out. I started just clearing it
out of my energy field, and pretty soon I never

(34:23):
had another anxiety attack ever in my life because it
was no longer in my energy field. So I stopped
looking at the physical stuff and I started looking at
the non physical stuff. What are the thoughts, what are
the emotions? What is the energy? And once I had
sufficiently cleared my energy field, my thought processes became far
more clear, and I started to be able to see more.

(34:46):
I started to be able to see a bigger picture.
I started to raise up in my consciousness, like raising
up in a hot air balloon. It's like when you're
on the ground, you see what's on the ground. But
once you start raising up, Oh wow, look at what
way over there? And look it way over there, you
start to see a broader picture. So as we raise
our consciousness, it's similar to that, we start seeing a

(35:09):
different story. So where I was looking at, oh my gosh,
I'm being attacked by some killer disease. My body's doing
this thing. I started to expand my perspective and I
started to see, wait a second, my body is responding
to my emotions. And at the time I knew for

(35:30):
sure that I was correct, Like I knew that was
true because it was just you get to a point
where you just see truth. And at the same time,
I thought, who's gonna listen to me? Who's gonna believe me?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
That came through my head, like, Okay, how do I
explain this to my family that I'm taking a different
tactic or taking a different route or I could see
a lot of outside pressure to do. I'll put air
quotes the norm.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, absolutely, so after I healed myself, I just I
was like, all right, I was still struggling with money
in my life and write livelihood, and I thought what
am I supposed to do now? And I just kept
getting right, So I didn't even know what to write.
So I thought, I'll just journal. I just write down
all the stuff that I realized when I was on
my healing journey, so I don't forget it. And about

(36:23):
twenty five or thirty pages in, I was like, oh,
I'm writing a book, right.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
I'm a big fan of journaling though, even if you're
not writing a book, Oh for sure, I love that
it became a book. But I am a huge fan
of journaling. Even I was taught years ago this by
a mentor, and I've shared it on the show. I
haven't shared it, wow is My mentor said to always
in your journal, always write on the right hand side lead,
the left side blank. And then he was very prescriptive

(36:51):
and he would do it monthly. Me not so much.
And it works either way. So he would go back
and reread some of the highlights or some of the
things just wherever spirit led him to open to a
page and he would read what he'd written on the
right and write what had changed on the left.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Oh nice.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I like that, and I find that really helpful in
showing how much you've healed, how much has changed in
your life, maybe what worked and you've forgotten and you
slipped a little bit. I've been known to do that,
so I'm a big fan. But I digress, Lisa that
so you're as you were journaling, you realized you were

(37:31):
actually getting information that was important not just to your
own healing, but to a much larger audience.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, even after I wrote my book, I really didn't
advertise it or anything. I was just because I just
I really just thought, who's going to believe me? They're
just going no offense.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
But that did go through my head a little bit ago.
When I got your book, I was like, I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Went through my head first for Sun. But it was
about two years after I had written my book that
of a friend of mine had read the book and
she was all excited about the book and she ended
up introducing me to another friend of hers and this
other friend of hers said, oh, you're the one that
knows German new medicine. I was like, wait, who what?

(38:15):
And she said, your book. It's the basis of German
new medicine, and instantly I knew that somebody had done
the research. It turns out that this man named doctor
Hammer in Germany had in the late seventies, he had
a teenage son who had been shot and wounded and
three months the son struggled for three months and then

(38:36):
passed away. And three months later doctor Hammer and his
wife both came down with cancer. He came down with
testicular cancer and she came down with breast cancer. And
I'm a healthy, fit guy, I work in oncology for
goodness sakes, like I understand cancer. I don't know why

(38:57):
this happened. The only thing I can think of is
this horrible struggle that we just went through affected my body.
So he went to the men in his practice who
had been diagnosed with testicular cancer, and he asked them,
what had happened in your life just prior to the diagnosis.
Every single one of them had struggled with the death

(39:20):
of a child, and he was like, that can't be
a coincidence. So then he asked if he could do
a cat scan of the brain and just see what
was going on in there, and they agreed, and he
found every single person had wherever it is on the brain,
they had a spot on the brain. It was the
same for everyone. So he realized, all right, this part

(39:43):
of the brain is controlling the testicles. And then he
went to the women with breast cancer, he went to
the people with pancreatic cancer, and he did the same
thing over and over and every time he asked what
had happened in your life just prior to the diagnose,
and every single person had suffered a similar type of trauma.

(40:06):
So he ended up discovering the five biological laws. These
are universal laws, just like the law of attraction or
the law of reciprocity, or any of the ways the
universe works. He discovered the ways our biology works, and
our biology is responding to our psychology. He discovered that

(40:29):
every single disase started with getting knocked off balance. Something
upsets you in your life and you don't have a
way of regaining your balance instantly, so it's something that
catches you off guard. So he discovered all of the

(40:51):
different ways that we get caught off guard. And if
we get caught off guard in this way, then this
other part, this part of your body will reapet if
you get caught off guard. That way, this other part
of your body will respond. And he realized that our
bodies are literally trying to help us through the crisis.

(41:13):
So everything the body does is biological. So for him
with the testicular cancer, if you lose an offspring, survival
of the species says you replace the offspring. So during
that time that he was going, oh my gosh, am
I going to lose my son, but his body was

(41:33):
responding to that biologically, meaning create more cells in the
testicles so that if you need to replace the offspring,
you have a better chance of doing that.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
But why damage cells or cells that cause damage?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
That damage is an assumption.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Okay, so sorry about that, but that's where my brain went.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
That's the program, that's what we're taught. So the cells
are literally not damaged. They're not cells. Yeah, the cells
are biological. They're doing exactly what they're designed to do.
So a damage cell like for example, So once the
go back to the old the thing we used at

(42:20):
the beginning about the lungs, if the lungs have been
creating extra cells, if once we get over the hump
and oh phew, okay, we're good. We're not gonna die.
Everything is good. We find resolution. Now the body doesn't
need those extra cells anymore. So now the body needs
to get rid of those cells. So the body has

(42:43):
a built in little surgical team that called bacteria and
fungi and all of that, and those things go in
and they start getting rid of those extra cells. As
the body is getting rid of the cells it no
longer needs, we have pain, we have fever, we have swelling,
we have coughing, we have congestion, we have you know,

(43:04):
all of those things that we call sickness is actually
the body healing itself. So this goes back to the
two sides of the coin because we haven't been looking
at Oh, dear, I had a death right and my
lungs were building up extra cells. Now everything is okay,

(43:27):
I've found resolution. My body no longer needs these cells.
We haven't seen any of that part. As soon as
the body starts getting rid of those cells and we
have pain, fever, coughing, congestion, we go, uh, oh, there's
something wrong with me. And then we go to the
doctor and we ask what's wrong with me? Reinforcing the

(43:51):
question right, So we assume there's something wrong. So that's
what happens, that's what we create. Back to your question, like,
how do we become more peaceful with our bodies and
accepting of what's happening with our bodies? And my other response,
besides realizing that we are eternal beings, is understanding how

(44:14):
our bodies actually function and understanding that our bodies are
doing exactly what they're designed to do and they're literally
designed to live for hundreds of years. Our bodies are
literally trying to keep us alive. But when we believe
that they're being attacked by diseases and then we battle

(44:38):
the disease, our body simply becomes the battle ground and
we know what happens on a battleground.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Wow. Okay, so what would be the next step because
part of me is going I could see a lot
of external forces trying to change my mind. Like I've
known people where family members are offering solution after solution,
whether that's helpful or not. We've done some meditation, We've

(45:10):
come to some realizations about who we are, what's going
on within our body, what are bodies attempting to do,
what is the root source, and what is the root
question that the body's asking or wanting resolved. I'm so curious,
how does it? I'm still curious, like, how did you know?

(45:33):
Did the tumor just disappear? Or I don't know if
this is out of my realm of understanding here that
I am.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
The body brings itself back to balance. When I brought
myself back into balance, when I found peace and harmony inside,
rather than oh my gosh, what's wrong with me? Feared
out guilt, shame, blame. When I brought myself back into balance,
then my body rebalanced itself automatic. The body is reflecting us.

(46:05):
So when I believed I'm not okay, the body has
to reflect that. Because the body is the suit that
we're wearing, it is to be the direct reflection of
who we are being. We are grand beings of light.
There's nothing wrong with us ever. But when we come

(46:26):
into the earth plane, you're not old enough, you're not
young enough, Why did you do that? There's something wrong
with you? And then we start to believe that there's
something wrong with us, that we're not okay, that we're
not okay as we are, that we're in the wrong body,
that we've done something wrong, that whatever we believe, we

(46:46):
start to create to reverse engineer and realize that we
are these grand souls, eternal beings made of love and
light when we come into these bodies. If we can
retain that, if we can remember who we truly are,
then we can help the next generations. The young ones

(47:09):
coming up who still remember, we can encourage them to
keep remembering, and we can start to change the course
of our future as humanity. But we each, as the adults,
now that we've suffered all of this programming and we
have the amnesian we don't remember where we were prior

(47:29):
to this incarnation. We don't have access to our soul's memories.
At this point, it's up to us to really reconnect
to that soul and start clearing away all of the amnesia,
start clearing away the fog, start remembering how to be
a creator, start to notice what is it that I

(47:52):
am actually creating? What am I focused on? Because what
I'm focused on is what I am creating. So if
I'm focused on, oh my gosh, those people are wrong
and these people are right, and this has to be
this in the economy and the war, if I'm focused
on all of that, I am not focused on inner peace.

(48:14):
I am not focused on who I truly am. But
when we start to turn it around and we start
to choose to remember who we are, we start to
feel that inner peace and we can start to separate
ourselves and become the observer of the external world. There

(48:35):
was a great teacher once who said, be in the world,
but not of the world. And that's what that means,
is to be able to be in your own self,
being peaceful, calm, happy, unto yourself without allowing the external

(48:56):
world to knock you off balance. When we're able to
maintain our own balance, the body just simply maintains balance.
We get brand new cells every day all the time,
but our bodies can only regenerate to the level of
our consciousness when we expect to age, when we expect disease,

(49:20):
when we expect death and degradation. That's what we create.
But we don't have to It can be different, but
we have to be willing to look in a different direction.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Oh I love all of that. This is so fascinating.
So I have to have your back because I know
I've just scratched the surface here. Well, they have about
four minutes left, and I want the audience to know
more about your book and more about you and whatever
your final thoughts you'd like to share.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh, the book is available on Amazon. It really just
it's a good primer. It's just a really good way
to just start to shift your consciousness and shift the
way you're looking at yourself and at your body, and
to be able to start noticing energy, because we have
all just been taught that if it's not physical, it's

(50:14):
not real. Unfortunately, it's the non physical stuff that generates
the physical stuff. So we need to start becoming aware.
We have to start seeing the unseen.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
And I want to throw in that this is an
absolute compliment. It's a very easy read. Sometimes people like, oh,
I don't want to slog through some book. It's awful
statistics on how many people really read books in adulthood.
It's a very easy read. I breathe through it and
really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Oh, thank you so much. And the other you were
asking earlier about the movie the inside effects, how the
body heals itself, and that's another great place to start.
There are about thirty different experts in the field, some
well known, some not so well known, who we're all
asked the same questions by brilliant director Keith leon Us

(51:06):
who this is his first foray into filmmaking and he's
won seven awards for it already. He's making a really
good first step into that world. But if you go
to the Inside Effects dot com, you can sign up
and you can find a link to check out that
movie online. That's also a really great way to just

(51:28):
start to notice what do people think about this? What
else is possible here? And the more we ask, the
more we ask good quality questions. What else is possible?
What else? What can I know about this? Or what
do I need to know about this? And we get
quiet and we allow the answers to come. The answer

(51:52):
always comes. It's just we're so programmed to think and
think and think and think that the answer doesn't have
any room to come in. So we have to be
able to start breathing and getting quiet and tuning in
and just asking some good quality questions, not the questions
of what's wrong with me? Or why me?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
The most commonly known question.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Exactly, ask a better quality question. What's it going to
take for me to heal myself? What's it going to
take for me to fully rejuvenate my body? It doesn't
happen overnight, but it does happen.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I love that we have bab Martina on the show
a few weeks ago. And I'm paraphrasing it. I feel
like I'm paraphrasing it. But it was a really fascinating
question of asking what do I need to know?

Speaker 1 (52:43):
M h.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
I liked that one too. That was a nice, simple
question I could easily remember as well. Now I wanted
everybody to know the title of Lisa's book is called
The Simplicity of Self Healing, and yes it's available online.
But I also want to show your website and that's
connecting you to you dot com. Correct. Correct, awesome, awesome,

(53:07):
Thank you so much Lisa for being on the show.
We'll have to have you back. I am going to
I like to play with these. My mind loves the wordplay.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yes, that's what we're supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Doing here exactly. If it sounds like work, I'm afraid
part of the brain will go, oh, that sounds like work.
So everybody, let's play with these concept. We'll have Lisa
back soon to we'll dig into this a lot deeper
because I know, even though her book is called The
Simplicity of Self Healing, I think there's some old programming

(53:41):
that I need to work through, so we all do.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
We've all of them programmed in so many ways.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Absolutely so, community, thank you for being here. I so
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(54:30):
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