Sharon Carne – The Secrets to Managing Energetic Boundaries - The AutoImmune Hour

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I have signs in my body that tell me if
I've taken on energy that doesn't belong to me, and
that is usually all of a sudden, I'm in a
really good mood during the day, and all of a sudden,
I feel completely drained. Suddenly comes on a complete change
of mood or change of feeling. Mostly is feeling drained.

(00:26):
Then I know.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Welcome everyone to the Autoimmune Hour. I'm Sharon Sailor from
Sharonsaalor dot com and of course from Understanding Autoimmune dot com.
And as always, it's my honor and privilege to be
with you here today on another brand new episode. And
I'm so excited to have Sharon Karan from the Sound
Wellness Institute back with us because she's got an exciting
new class at When I heard about it, I was like,

(01:42):
Oh my goodness, where were you decades ago? So I'm
really excited to have her. But let me read her bio.
And yes, guys, I have given in to the idea
that I have to get closer to the screen to
read bio, So apologies for coming in real close here,
but I'm going to read her bio so I get
it right because he's amazing and it's Sharon Carran. She's
a best selling author, international speaker, musician, recording artists, master,

(02:06):
sound healer, mother, grandmother, an evolving elder. I love that
she founded Sound Wellness in two thousand and eight after
participating as a facilitator in a study on stress through
the Integrative Health Institute of Mount Royal University, and in
two tenty seventeen the Sound Wellness Institute was born, and
she is absolutely recognized internationally for her professional training for

(02:30):
holistic practitioners who receive high levels of competency and understanding
how sound helps you heal. One of the things that
I wanted to talk about today, though, was this wonderful
post that she recently put out about energetic boundaries. Now,
we've talked on the show about boundaries before, which is

(02:51):
like the ability to say no when you want to
say no, patient advocacy boundaries, how to help boundaries and
talk to your healthcare providers. We've done a lot of that.
We've also talked about highly sensitive people, and so today
we're going to combine both of those and understand highly
sensitive people and energetic boundaries. And I have to say

(03:13):
that I don't know there's probably a study out on it,
but I know in the ten years plus of doing
the show, I have noticed that a large number of
our courage conversation people who come, they're the thrivers, the
survivor to thriver stories that we sometimes have on the show.
I'd say the majority of them are highly sensitive people. So,

(03:33):
like I said, this is a science of Sharon, but
I think people that are more sensitive oftentimes end up
with some sort of condition. I don't know if that's
holding it in or what, but that's the science of Sharon.
And now we'll get into the other Sharon. Welcome, Sharon.
Thanks for being on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much, Sharon. This is
a big topic and I love that you've asked me
to return and talk about this. It's just I'm so
excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, and I'm thrilled because I couldn't think of anybody better.
I know that you are highly sensitive yourself, and I
put myself in that class too. Sometimes you hear a community,
you might hear HSP. I prefer the whole word instead
of the acronym. I don't know why, but I do.
And anyway, Sharon described to us what a highly sensitive

(04:24):
person is, because I have found a lot of people
who end up with some sort of medical condition fall
somewhere on that spectrum.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh gosh. Yeah. I can maybe start with a story, Sharon,
if that's okay, because we were talking about this a
moment ago. And I think I've always known have been sensitive,
but never really acknowledged it until I was probably in
my forties, and I had a very busy studio of
teaching through the conservatory. I taught classical guitar for many years,

(04:56):
and there was a period of time where I had
so many students come in and every once in a
while a child would come in with a headache or
stomach ache, and I double check with the parents that
they didn't need any medical attention or regular attention to
end the lesson, and we go on with a lesson.
They would leave feeling great, and I would have the

(05:17):
stomach ache or the headache. Well, that happened way too
many times to have me finally realize this isn't a coincidence.
It's not a coincidence. What is it that about? What
is it that makes me take on their symptoms? I've
probably always been doing this, but now it was becoming

(05:39):
more conscious. And at the same time, probably the week
or the week two weeks after I started making this
realization myself, Sharon, there was an article in the Calgary
Herald that said are you an EmPATH? Boy? That changed
my life? Are you an EmPATH? That's another word for

(06:00):
highly sensitive person? And it's like I read that there
are lists that are available online in a lot of
different areas empathic qualities and sensitivities, and so I went
down the list and it's like yep, oh okay, Now
I got to learn what it impath is and then
how to manage and say no to somebody else's headache?

(06:22):
How do I do? That was our learning. That took
a while. So going back to the qualities, I have
a list of thirty of them. Do you want me
to go through some of them?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Sure, let's hit some of the highlights.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, So you just know sometimes your things are going
on and you just know an answer. It's an inner knowing.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I was talking to my acupunctures about this recently because
I can tell them where the points are. Sometimes they're
poking around with their finger trying to find the point.
I'm out right there. Because you're the only person I
know who can do that. I thought everybody could do that.
I was born that way. And when you say you
just know, maybe like you had that moment where you

(07:04):
had an Aha moment. I had an AHA moment about
thirty years ago, and I just that was the AHA moment.
But the Aha moment was not so much. The just
knowing came later. It was you mean, not everybody does this,
Oh I just know.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes, here are some of the other characteristics too, being
overwhelmed in public places. How do you feel when you're
in a crowded mall or at a football game, or
when you're in a crowd of people, how does it feel?
It feels overwhelming? And so many those who are highly
sensitive really have difficult time with large crowds.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
What's unfair about that, Sharon is I'm thinking about Western
medicine and the two words came up for me, Oh,
you're just an introvert, get over it, or oh, you
have anxiety. Here's a pill.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh yeah, huh, and not really good solutions for those
who exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
But this is where I think it's hard to define
highly sensitive people in a way other than as we
go through this list, you're just gonna know, and I'm
hoping it's a relief to you to understand there's nothing
wrong with you. There's a lot of us out there.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Absolutely. Another quality is feeling other people's You feel everything,
You feel other people's emotions, and part of that is
that high sensitivity also makes you a very good listener.
How many times have you been sitting in a restaurant
or on a park bench and the stranger has sat
beside you and started to tell you their life story.

(08:39):
I've had that happen more times than I can count.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I don't know if I have something on my forehead
that has talked to me, it's And the other thing
that happens is going to networking events. In a way,
this is good because it's always a good impression. You
ask one question besides what's your name kind of thing,
and then you're listening and it's just gone and on,
and then all of a sudden, five ten minutes go
by and they walk off the well and they'll say, well,

(09:04):
this has been a fantastic conversation, and you're like, I
didn't say much. It's good for networking because they think
you're awesome. But you're like, okay, so that was a
one more conversation.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Oh my gosh, yeah totally. And another aspect of this
is so there's so much to part of that. For
those who are highly sensitive are often drawn to alternative
methods of healing or not. Alternative is an alternate to medicine.
Complimentary might be the better word. Complimentary methods of healing
that compliment what you're doing. Holistic therapies and things like

(09:44):
essential oils and that can be so supportive. And sound
is one of the things I love, of course, and
tapping is another thing. There's so many holistic modalities that
really support us, and that is one of the qualities.
Those who are highly sensitive usually end up in those fields. Also,
love of nature and finding that when you're feeling overwhelmed,

(10:09):
is that nature really replenishes you at a very deep level.
I think just about every human being is replenished when
they go into nature. However, those who are highly sensitive,
really if they're feeling overwhelmed, then nature can really help
support shifting to feeling more fulfilled with life force energy.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Oh absolutely, my family knows. Take me to the beach. Yeah,
if I'm drained, I would go like a puppy, go
walk around the sand. Yes, let her breathe that ocean
wave air and all of that.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. For me, even it just going
back and putting my back against one of our apple
trees in the backyard or sitting on the grass. Something
that connects you to the earth is just so helpful.
And then as part of that too, it's needing solitude,
needing to just be by yourself to process to decompress

(11:06):
a busy day. That alone time for me has always
been a cent If I don't get it, I go
start going into more of the mental health challenges or
overwhelm or more stress anxiety kinds of feelings which I
don't like, And so then it's okay, Sharon, When was
the last time you sat and just read a book

(11:27):
or did some meditation, or sat on the grass and
watched the clouds go by. When was the last time
you had alone time? It's something that for me is
a boundary in a way that needs to be an
important part of my day, is time to be by myself,
even if I'm up earlier or stay up later.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh absolutely, My family knows that about me, and luckily
I have a family that also has their own energetic boundaries.
Not all of them. My family members are empathic, but
it's about respect in my mind about Okay, that's just
the way they are. Recharge and come back out, pop
up a whole new person again.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Know, yep, that's me.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
That battery is drained. You're gonna plug it into the
wall like your cell phone's drained. Go let them plug
themselves into a tree and come on back.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I wish that made me picture a chord much
like that show.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, you know it's funny. I have a lot of
oak trees on my property, and I know this sounds weird.
I love to just stand there and water them, especially
if I don't do it in the winter obviously, but
in the summer it's so calming for me just to
be watering my garden and my trees. And so I
guess that's where the cord came because I got this
hose right. But I love the connection that they get.

(12:42):
But any thing for me where we're talking about energetic
boundaries is having people in your world that respect like, oh,
that's just Sharon. Let her go, doesn't mean anything. They're
not avoiding you, doesn't mean anything. You didn't do nothing.
Just let them go and they'll come.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Back, absolutely absolutely. And one other thing that can sometimes
be part of a mindfulness routine to know whether or
not you've taken any energy on. For me, as a
physical EmPATH, I have signs in my body that tell
me if I've taken on energy that doesn't belong to me,

(13:20):
and that is usually all of a sudden, I'm in
a really good mood during the day and all of
a sudden, I feel completely drained. Suddenly comes on a
complete change of mood or change of feeling mostly is
feeling drained. Then I know I start asking the question, Okay,
what has come into my body and feel that isn't me?

(13:44):
And how do I let go of that? And it
is when you're working in the public or doing teaching
and things like that, often there are connections made that
can be really feel draining. As human beings, we often
connect to each other. In the holistic field, it's called
creating a cord of connection, and that cord of connection

(14:07):
is like it's like a vacuum cleaner hose. Energy can
be sucked one way or another, and sometimes if one
of these cords of energy is attached, it can be
draining your energy. And this is something that is important
for holistic healers those in holistic field is to make
sure their energy is very clear and to have a

(14:30):
lot of ways to keep your energy clear and strong
so that you notice if there's a drain in your energy.
If that makes sense, it's a little bit out there
as far as having scientific but if you're suddenly being drained,
then there's a reason for it.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Right And if you're still on the fence about whether
this is real or not. Just take a moment to
be open to the idea. And next time you're wandering
around and you get some sort of feeling or something
like that seems foreign to you, just be open to
the idea. Is it possible that I just picked up
something that's not mine, that's not me? I think that's

(15:08):
the important thing. Is this being open to going? Well,
isn't that interesting? This seems foreigner? I don't know why,
all of a sudden, I'm overwhelmed with this feeling here
very much.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's that feeling of being completely drained that has been
a big signal for me. And then there's the question,
one of the most important questions you were alluding to, Sharon,
is this mine? Is a question I use all the
time when I notice of one of those triggers in
my energy, something has affected my energy. Is this mine?
I noticed in the last few years, as I've been

(15:42):
growing myself and understanding myself more. Even driving along the
roads in Calgary, I can sense the energy of where
a car accident might have happened, because there is to me,
it's like a cloud of trauma and fear and all
of those things, those high emotions that happen when there's

(16:04):
a car accident, huge difficult situation, and so that energy
can stay in that area where a car accident was
and so I can sometimes feel that as I'm driving
through if I'm driving along the road, especially at intersections
where a lot of these happen, and then all of

(16:25):
a sudden, I just feel this huge surge of fear
in my heart. Then I asked the question, is is
this an accident that just happened here? Your heart will
always give you an answer. I always ask my heart,
not my brain. I ask my heart for an answer.
If my heart says this isn't yours, this was a

(16:46):
trauma that happened in this intersection, then I just send
a prayer to those people who were involved in that accident.
And if it feels like a very heavy cloud at
that intersection. Sometimes there can be a lot of accidents
at certain intersections that I'll add on to each other,
and so I just ask for a prayer to help

(17:08):
release that energy from the space. And that has been
one thing that I found for me has been very
helpful to just release the energy from me and it's
not mine, Okay, I just let it go, let it
drain out through my feed.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I just want to add on We've had Sarah Payton
and others on. We had doctor Tipenki on the other
day about this and a few other guests where the
other question I always ask when I get that feeling,
I ask, is this mine? But I also remind my
autonomic nervous system in that moment, like I'm just driving
and all of a sudden I get that feeling, Okay,

(17:49):
is this mine?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Then I work to tell my autonomic nervous system we're
safe here, because I noticed that it goes into hyper
alert with oh, what's this odd feeling I'm picking up?
Am I safe? And so to me, it's a two
step process. The first is the acknowledgment, and then well,
I guess it's a three step pros acknowledgment, and then

(18:14):
checking in and telling my autonomic nervous system breathe deep,
you're fine, you don't have to hold your breath here,
You're okay. You talk my autonomic nervous system off the
ledge and then release it. But I feel like for me,
I have to tell my nervous system because it doesn't
know time and it doesn't know place or energy. It

(18:35):
just knows it felt something scary and it's overreacting. And
so for me, it's like a three step process of acknowledgment,
kind words to myself about appreciating that I picked it up,
but also that it's not mine to hold, and then
breathing and letting it go.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, I love that, and especially just calming down the
autonomic nervous system and giving it this said thank you,
that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well that's many years of having trauma experts on the
shihow Oh taught me to do that, especially that question
of telling my autonomic nervous system, am I safe? And honestly,
there have been times where I haven't felt safe, like
my spidy senses up instead of just knowing it's not
we're going through this place where there's been a trauma,

(19:23):
but my spidy sense is up. But I'm like, then
you're telling your autonomics nervous system, thank you very much.
Let's just stay like at mild alert. We don't need
to be calling the fire trucks, but let's just be
on mild alert. But that's a whole combination of being
able to talk to ourselves and let ourselves know when
we're safe, because oftentimes it's a gut response like okay,

(19:46):
last time, this happened twenty two years ago, because it's
an unconscious brain doesn't know time, and you're like, okay,
I'm not the same person I was twenty two years ago.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I'm okay now, yeah, yeah, I love that part. That part.
There's a funny story with letting it go, because it's
an energy, it's non local, it's nebulous. How do we
let energy go? And sometimes it helps to have some
sort of a trigger to help the body remember or

(20:15):
an image to help the body let an energy go.
And I had a funny experience with my hairdresser many
years ago. She is such an EmPATH, natural healer. She's
now a raking master and is an amazing hairdresser. As
I came in to get my hair done and she

(20:36):
looked so heavy, her energy felt so heavy, and I said,
what's going on. Something's going on, and that's my knowing.
She just looked and felt so heavy, and she said, well,
I have been sitting in the hospital with two of
my friends. One of them has just had a hip replacement.

(20:58):
The other one is very seriously ill with cancer. She
was sitting by the bed side, consciously taking their pain
into her body, and I said, I'm not sure that's appropriate. However,
bless your heart, it's not appropriate. And I said, have

(21:20):
you got away to let that go? And she said,
I don't know how. And so she had been putting
goop on my hair at that point, and so I
got up and put her in the chair and I said, well,
I'm going to put my hands on your shoulders and
start a raiki flow to help allow your body to
let that energy go. And as soon as I did that,

(21:43):
in about ten seconds, we both started howling with laughter. Sharon,
we both got the same image at the same time.
It was a toilet flush.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
There's a lever at the ear, and the images of vortex.
When you watch water go down the drain when you
finished washing the dishes, it's always goes down in a
vortex in a spiral, and a spiral is a huge
clearing image. So we both got an image of this
drain pipe in the center of the body and there

(22:16):
was a a big vortex going down the center that
just immediately drained everything. So after we finished laughing, she
just stood up and said, it's gone now you go in.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
The chair, that's the thing. It's gone now. It's a
totally different. Oftentimes people say something is here with me
type of thing, and I like to I love the
toilet image because my image has always been if you
do that. There's a lot of permission involved in that
as well. But if you do that, it's more than

(22:49):
being a conduit instead of a vessel. The idea that
of a conduit, something flows through the pipe and out
the other end, then the vessel that ends up storing
it all because that's a not healthy and be not
your job.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yes, that's another example of an energetic boundary for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
So what are some others? This is fascinating. People could
just keep going check check check. Oh my.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think we've covered some of the main characteristics of
empaths just in our conversation. And I wanted to share
a book that I have though, Sharon, I've brought it
off the bookshelf because I found this one so helpful.
And this one is called The empass Survival Guide by
doctor Judith Orlof. She's a psychiatrist, and she goes through

(23:41):
characteristics of an empast types of empaths. Some who connect
with animals, nature, the planet. Many people feel earthquakes in
their bodies, for example, that is a nature EmPATH as
far as how she qualifies them. It's a wonderful book
to give a lot. It gives a lot of tools
on how to manage you manage boundaries in everyday life too.

(24:06):
In addition to what how do I just start to
understand how this energy is flowing in and out of
my body and what to do with it.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
So if we've checked off all the boxes and maybe
we're a little more advanced, and yet we're still bumping
into these energetic boundaries, what are some of the tips
that you give in your class for people to understand
A first, acknowledge it's an energetic boundary, and then be
is the word protect That doesn't sound like the right
word to me, but to protect yourself from being enveloped

(24:39):
with these energies.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
There are a lot of people who do and I
was taught how to do this also in some of
the modalities I've learned over the years. In creating what's
called a shield, I imagine it as a golden bubble
that in a way, it's like a bubble, are our
own biofield is like a bubble of energy around us

(25:04):
that interacts constantly with the larger field, and that bubble
can be worked with consciously that biofield energy and just
imagining it as a golden bubble. Gold is a color
that has a very high vibration. Some people will give
different colors. It's almost the outside skin of our own

(25:26):
biofield in order to help keep some of this energy
from coming in and out. But our biofield is a
communication structure. It's not really a structure, but it's a
communication entity. Heart Meth has discovered the brain and the
nervous system is a receiver in transmitter and it sends
out signals and it receives in signals and a lot

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of that comes in and out through the biofield and
our biofield. This energy that comes from our atoms and
electrons and physical processes and energy jetic processes in the body,
it creates that biofield, and it's intimately connected not only
with the body, but also with the larger zero point field.

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And how do we create a boundary between that we
created with our imagination. But it's a constant flow of
energy from everything to hear it and then out in
a way a challenging thing when we imagine how deeply
connected we are to everything and the information available in everything.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
To me, challenging is an interesting word. To me. It
was a surprising or startling for me. I didn't particularly
see it as a challenge other than to be consistent
with it when I was first learning about this idea,
and it did resonate with me immediately. When someone told
me about they envisioned like a golden eggshell around me,

(26:55):
but I like yours because the bubbles usually transparent. Whatever
for you, But I was hesitant. I was like open
to the idea because I love ideas and I love
abstract ideas, but part of me was still like, huh,
say what I like to think of this idea of

(27:16):
just playing with it, and whether you want to be
doctor Strange and put your hands out, shields up or
whatever that is, or the Harry Potter with the invisible cloak,
go for it. Just play with it and see what happens.
To me, it's one of the fantastic things about healing
and especially understanding our energies, is just playing with it

(27:38):
instead of getting so wrapped up and so particular about it.
Because everybody is different. That's the one thing I found.
You ask someone to describe how they protect themselves or
do they have an energy field, and they'll describe it
very differently from what your idea, what my concept of
it is. And so that's always fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Oh, I find that too, very fine, fascinating. There's another
aspect of this that I could share that for me
is more of a mindfulness practice, and it has to
do with resonance. I have my box here and a
tuning fork. I can explain a little bit about resonance
with the box and the tuning fork.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
That could be the title of a book. Let's go
for it. The tuning fork.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, a box, that would be fascinating. Yeah, I love that.
So this is just an empty wooden box. I took
everything out that was in here, and I have a
couple of tuning forks here. I have one longer one
and one slightly shorter one that has a higher sound. Now,

(28:45):
everything in existence, everything is moving, and everything that's moving
has a vibe. It's vibrating. It's moving, so it has
a resonance. It has a sound in a way, even
if that vibration is within our hearing range or not
within our hearing range. That movement is a measurement of
its activity. There through the electromagnetic spectrum. There are a

(29:09):
lot of measurements of the activity of different kinds of
energies and light and materials. So this box has a
resonance that sounds like this. That's its natural sound. It's
natural resonance. This is the sound of the wood when
I knocked my knuckles on the wood.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Now you know what it's fascinating to me, was my
autonomic nervous system wanted to go answer the door. I'm sorry,
of course, I got totally distracted the time you heard it,
and then you said a few things, and then I
heard it again, and my autonomics nervous system had left
the room. It was like that, I'm back. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay. So we have a knock on the door, and
then we have the natural sound of the tuning for
so let me tap it and bring it over to
the microphone here so you can hear that sound. Okay,
that is two hundred and fifty six herts. It has

(30:15):
a specific measurement. Now, resonance is the influence of one
sound or one thing on another thing. So here we
have the box, and here we have the tuning fork. No,
let me try it with the other one. That was

(30:36):
a very light sound the box. When I placed a
tuning fork on the box, the whole box was resonating.
Instead of to that, it was resonating to two hundred
and fifty six herts, which means every molecule in this
box was moving at the rate of two hundred and
fifty six herts, or that vibration. Now, if I placed

(30:58):
three eighty four on here.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
It's very faint, but you can hear its dollar. No,
it's a not dollar. It's definitely a different sound.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
So every molecule of this box is now resonating to
three hundred and eighty four herds, So the molecules are
moving faster. And the same thing happens if I place
that tuning fork on me. That means every atom of
my body is now resonating to three hundred and eighty
four hertz. So everything has shifted from its natural vibration

(31:44):
to this vibration. It can be the same kind of
reaction with feelings and the same kind of response and nature,
for example, or a crowded place. If we're in a
crowded mall, there is one feeling of resonance which affects
our nervous system very specifically, and then if we go

(32:08):
into the forest, there's another kind of resonance of the
energy of the forest that shifts our resonance to more
match the energy of the forest. If we are in
the presence of a person who has a habit of complaining,
I know it's this is where a boundary for me

(32:30):
has been really important. My energy shifts into that negative
mindset very easily, and then I find myself going into
that same pattern of thinking. If I'm around someone who
has a very positive mindset, then my whole being goes
into that pattern of thinking. With the positive mindset. That

(32:54):
human beings are natural resonators and we will resonate to
the influences around does or match that. Thoughts are very similar,
especially really emotional thoughts, like worry, which is magnified by fear.
So a worry energy is an energy of fear, and

(33:16):
fear has a resonance that affects our nervous system. Compassion
has another resonance that affects our nervous system. It's like
our nervous system is a tuning fork, and many of
these other things will tune our nervous system, or our
body or our molecules to that frequency or that thought field,

(33:37):
or that that energy of the forest. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Oh? Absolutely, And what's fascinating to me is like a virus,
you can pick it up easier than you think.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Now sometimes I'm in a crowded mall, I can. When
I was first starting protect myself for a little bit,
I can maintain for a little bit. But I with
a particular person, this was years ago, a friend, and
then I didn't realize their energy was always about the negative,
like the waitress was bad, the food was bad, whatever,

(34:12):
everything was always there was something wrong with everything, and
all being the jolly myself trying to be a supportive
friend and talk them out of it. But I realized
after well, I won't say I realized. Another friend pointed
it out that it was about three months into that
was gee, you used to be always so upbeat, and

(34:33):
now you're everything's negative. And that was interesting to me
how over time the negative became me. At the time,
I was so thankful for my other friend who pointed
it out, and I had to limit my time with
that other person because it was just for whatever reasons,

(34:53):
my boundary was to limit my time with them. I
know some people might say, well, that's not fair, you
should have just learned to shield yourself better. But at
the time in my evolution of understanding, it was like,
I can only have my shields up so long, and
so my solution was to still be friends, but limit
my time with them, and also had the conscious realization

(35:13):
that their negativity is not the way I want to
be in the world.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Powerful mindfulness and powerful boundary, absolutely, and I agree with
you that the shields take a lot of energy, that
the boundary is more important the mindfulness to understand what's
going on with me when I'm resonating with an energy
that I'm not noticing. Thank Heavens for the friends also
for me that that will tell me, Hey, Sharon, what's

(35:39):
going on exactly?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Sometimes it's not that nice, but it's still taking as information.
I was unaware that I had become as negative as
the other person, and luckily it wasn't ingrained or embedded.
It was when my other friend pointed it out. It
was a moment of Oh, I know exactly where that go.
I'll put in their quotes because I didn't get to stick.
But that virus, that mind virus came from.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And I love how you describe it as a mind
virus because it's not the person. It's a habit or
a pattern that they have resonated with that they may
not be aware with. The resonance is such a powerful
way to use as a tool in their mindfulness. So
I'm my being. It's not who you are, it's something

(36:26):
you're resonating with.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Absolutely, And one of the things I'm resonating with is
that we're up against the clock for a quick commercial break,
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Check in with yourself, see how you're feeling, where your
boundaries are.

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Speaker 5 (38:00):
If I could be you could be me just one hour,
if we could find a way to get inside each
other is mine. Welcome mile in my shoes. Welcome and
my shoes. Well before you abused, criticize and accused, Welcome

(38:27):
Mile and shoes.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Welcome back everyone to the Autoimmune Hour. I am so
happy to be here with my dear friend Sharon carn.
She is the founder and key facilitator of Sound Wellness Institute,
as well as the amazing teacher of Energetic Boundaries. It's
a course for people, mostly highly sensitive people, but anyone
can join. You might be surprised how sensitive you really are.

(38:55):
I've met people who hang around with me a while
lofter and they go, well, it't used to be like this,
but thanks a lot now I feel at all. Oh
my goodness, Sharon, I take it as a compliment. I
used to be able to walk through the world and
not think about the energy of the city or the

(39:16):
space or whatever. Thanks a lot for pointing out it exists. Sorry,
So what if someone's new to this and we've talked
a little bit about boundaries, what are some other things
you have for people to understand and to learn to
That sounds so rude, I'll say, learn to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Learn to deal with it is also really important. It
starts with knowing yourself. It starts with knowing the flow
of information and chatter that goes on in the mind.
And sometimes we can learn about how we're being affected
by what's going on in the chatter, the ego chatter

(39:58):
that goes on, especially which is the fearful chatter. Sometimes
that takes more precedence in the mind, or we give
it more territory in mind than it actually deserves.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Well, it's a big bully. It just comes roaring in
and sits down and wants to stay around what are
you going to do?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Absolutely, it's understanding the bully for what it is. It's
a part of the personality connected to the sympathetic nervous
system that's trying to keep you safe. That's okay. It'll
warn you about this or that and then you say
thank you and then move away from it. It also
will trigger emotional responses, and so knowing those patterns, also

(40:44):
learning to understand your own patterns, being mindful of those
things when you start feeling really drained and asking the
questions how often do I feel drained? And then of
course that most important questions is mine is absolutely a
huge question to ask.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
And besides the how, no, I want to ask, I
want to also throw in the win because sometimes, as
we've been alluding to, may not be your stuff. So
every time you go through that one intersection, meet that
one friend for dinner, whatever it is, besides the how,
throw in the wind.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh gosh, the wind is stronger energy. It's being new,
it's growing and evolving and understanding yourself at a level
that brings you back into that divine human essence that's
at the heart of every single one of us. Every
single one of us is an amazing divine being, and

(41:44):
we forget that when we come down here this planet
and we learn all our lessons, we have all these
challenges that bring us ways of growing and learning, and
it's so easy to forget that we are we have
a divine sense within our being that is at the
core of our being that nothing can ever change or

(42:06):
nothing can ever affect it. And when you allow or
when you identify with that divine essence and some people
call it soul or spirit or higher self or the source,
that divine essence, when you identify it more than with
the ego, chatter and the bully, then things start shifting

(42:27):
in your perceptual field into a more understanding of how
when we're perceiving something or seeing something, we are actually
interpreting that. That wisdom and understanding the patterns of interpretation
that we are perceiving or seeing our world with brings

(42:50):
huge ways to returning to more yourself, that divine essence
of who you are. As you just discover a pattern, Oh,
I've been seeing this as this with this negative resonance,
and I can choose to see this as this with
a more compassionate way of seeing things. That we always

(43:14):
have a choice in how we perceive our world. For me,
that's the biggest win is that connection with that inner divine.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Essence, absolutely giving yourself permission to go there. I don't
know about you, but I was raised in an ultra
religious family, and even this idea of inner self whatever
had a totally different definition than what I have now
of how my world works, and understanding that other people

(43:44):
have a definition of how their world works. And I
think it's important to know yourself and honor yourself and
give your per self permission to be yourself. But that
doesn't mean too often people say that and then all
of a sudden you have to be just like them.
And I was like, yeah, no, that's not how this
game works.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Absolutely giving yourself permission to be you, but that also
reflects it in this world. In my world, that also
reflects that you have permission to be you over there.
If I give myself permission here, I also have to
give permission over there. That's how this reciprocity thing works.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I can share one example of a practical way that
I found to use that in that divine essence or
your own beingness that you connect with when you know
your energy is strong. I'm me. I'm sitting in my
energy that feels strong, that feels me, that doesn't feel
like there's any interference, and that is a remembrance. That

(44:48):
is an energy that you can use. For example, there
was years ago, there was one time at the grocery store.
I'm at the cashier, my groceries are going through when
a person comes up behind me who must have had
a huge fight with his wife or kids. The energy
in his biofield was vibrant with anger, and I could

(45:12):
feel it starting to move through my biofield and into
the back of my heart. I could feel it start
to move into my body, and I thought that is
not appropriate. So I went into that remembrance. I went
into my heart. I went into that remembrance of me
while she's running all my groceries through, and allowed it

(45:33):
to expand this is me, this is my energy. There's
an interference coming in. He's allowed to be angry. We
all have those situations in our lives that we work with.
So as I expanded my own energy and my own
remembrance of my energy when it's strong, I imagined it
pushing his energy out of the back of my heart

(45:54):
and out of my field. I made my field fairly small,
and we can expand and contract biofield. That's within our
imaginative skills. And so I imagined the energy staying strong on
the back of my body, giving him permission to be
angry and giving me permission to be in my energy

(46:15):
without us doing this and interweaving through my body. So
that is how I used that memory of my energy
in a practical situation when I felt an intrusion. And
this is normal everyday experience. Often there are people go
through emotional states. We're emotional beings and that energy is

(46:36):
in our field, and so that energy in the field
can affect other people. That doesn't mean that person can
be allowed to go through that of course, However, it
doesn't have to go through me. So I just strengthened
my own energy and pushed it out.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
And it goes somewhere else. That's the thing to remember. Also,
I like to thank my system for noticing it right away.
I think, to me, that's very powerful to as that
part of we've talked about letting your body know okay, yeah,
something just oh wow, that feels angry in your case,
that story was about somebody being angry My first thoughts

(47:15):
are to thank my body for noticing it. Oh, okay,
this isn't me. Thank you for bringing that to my attention,
because I want that part of me, my spidy sense,
just to know that I appreciate it, because you don't
know if you'd been in an alley, it could have
been a totally different story. So I like to think
my body when I get these senses, these sensations, like, oh,

(47:39):
thank you for bringing that to my attention. I'm in
the grocery line, I've looked around. Everything's pretty safe. Yeah,
that he's probably going through his thing over there, but
it's not a danger to me. And then my body's
able to move it out, move it on. I always
like to have some gratitude because I want that spidey
sense to stay strong. I wanted to think like, oh,

(48:01):
you have told me, you've pushed these energies out and
not acknowledged, so I want that spidey sense to stay
strong within me.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I love that, Thank you, Sharon. I love that.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
We've got about oh four minutes left. Time is just
flying by. What are some final tips you want to share?
And then I know that the class has already started,
but it's a twenty one day challenge so people can
join at any time.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
The connection we have to the universal field is so porous,
and I think we've already mentioned so many of the tips,
and I love what you're saying about the acknowledgment of
the nervous system. Well, I guess one important part of
this too is to know your energy when it's strong,
whenever you've had a massage, or whenever you've had an

(48:49):
holistic therapy treatment where you're feeling strong, or whenever you've
been sitting watching the waves come in at the seashore,
whenever you've been in the four for a while and
you feel balanced and strong, remember that that is a
benchmark for you. And then as energy flows in through

(49:11):
and around you, having that benchmark helps you give you
the information that something isn't quite feeling right here, and
then asking the questions about it.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I love that, and let's just quickly go over the
questions again so people can begin to integrate this.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And we need to add in yours. So the first
thing is something doesn't feel right? Is this mine?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Is this mine to me? Is really the important question.
The second part of that would be to honor it,
whether it's mine or not.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
And then thank the nervous system for recognizing and also
acknowledging that you're safe.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I think that's really important because that allows the nervous
system to feel more deeply and more completely. It's not worried.
It's not when whenever my nervous system feels unsafe, it's
a contraction. The thing about feeling in my energetic boundaries,
it's more of an expansion or a placement of something,
but it's certainly not a contraction.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yes, and then is there a tool I can use
in order to help me go back to my strong resonance,
whether that's going into the memory of it in the
heart and expanding that. You can use other practical things
like smudge crystals, oils. There's Mantra is one of my
favorites because that shifts the mind as mantra is a

(50:41):
tuning for that shifts your resonance to a very sacred
energy and if something is intruding in that feels it
has an intrusion. There have been a few times when
I've had to challenge but request also that shifting the
energy to that high vibration using any of those tools,

(51:02):
the smudge crystals, oils, there's so many of them. Tapping
mantra one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
That's very acceptable and you can do without anybody noticing.
I know this sounds weird. That brings me back to
my center every time. Is a big swig of really
cold water.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Oh that's fabulous and so practical.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Exactly, so socially acceptable. So there's something about a big
swig of really cold water that all of a sudden,
your whole body just focuses on that, and then you
can recenter yourself. But it's this little moment of recentering

(51:44):
by focusing only on the all of a sudden, my
whole body just got invaded by this cold thing. What's happening?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, so practical. You can certainly do that in a
restaurant with a friend.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Oh absolutely, almost anyway. And it's a find one I
use with my clients too. As you know, I help
people understand public speaking, and one of the things is, well,
I'm always afraid when I'm public speaking. I said, take
a plastic water bottle, one that you can feel that
kind of sweats and everything, make sure it's ice cold.
Take it on the stage with you, and if you're

(52:19):
getting those moments where you need more oxygen to the brain,
or getting a little nervous, whatever, Either put the water
bottle on your wrist or just stop and take a
big drink of cold water and it will refocus your
public speaking as well. Oh, that's a great way to
recenter yourself really quick and as you said, so healthy too. Yes,
so tell us we in that just the last two

(52:41):
or three minutes. Tell us more about understanding energetic boundaries.
This twenty one day challenge that you have.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's an opportunity to do some investigation with these questions
we've talked about, to do some journaling. There are three
classes on three Sundays, the eighth, the fifteenth, and the
twentieth second, which are live zoom classes where we talk
about different aspects related to energetic boundaries. And then in

(53:09):
between there's a Facebook group where there's a different journaling
question every single day. There is also a journal online
in the Facebook group you can download in order to
write down your responses or write them in your own journal,
or write them on the post in the Facebook group.
As we share, we learn so much from each other

(53:32):
and it's an opportunity to grow your awareness with energy
and how it affects you.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Thank you so much for sharing that, Sharon. We'll have
the link to how they can find it in the
description here. If you're watching it on YouTube, just check
below and the description will have the link. Or if
you're listening to this on any of the audio formats,
just go over to Understanding Autoimmune dot com and it
will be right there under the episodes with Sharon. So
it's a fairly long link, guys, so just check it out.

(53:59):
And it's fantastic. And I know I'm a little late
to the game. I found out about it afterwards, but
I wanted to share this with you everyone because I
know Sharon repeats it periodically and it's really important for
you that if you have questions about yourself and understanding,
like maybe you've always felt slightly different, or people tell

(54:20):
you're too sensitive, whatever, maybe you are and that's not
a bad thing. So join the crowd over here with
other HSPs and know that if you are wondering about it, that,
like I said, this is a science of Sharon. When
I opened This is a Science of Sharon, I have
noticed that a large part of our audience do identify
self identify as somewhere on the spectrum of either being

(54:43):
impath or highly sensitive person. So, Sharon, thank you so
much for sharing with us all about what is an
energy field? And I want to confirm with you. I
think a lot of people think, oh, that can't be real.
I thought that decades ago, and the more I explored,
the more I realize it's very real. We're all attuned

(55:05):
to nature, We're all attuned to this world, the whole thing.
It's all interconnected, even if though we can't see it.
Thank you Sharon for joining us. That's Sharon Karn from
Sound Wellness Institute and Sharon, what's the url for the
Sound Wellness Institute.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Sound Wellnessinstitute dot com.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Well, there you go. That's pretty simple. I thought it
was that, but I just wanted to make sure. So
check out all of the Sharon's other opportunities and classes
and her amazing work. But she's been on the show
before where she's taught us all about sound bath as
well as the wonderful Tibetan singing bowls that she has,

(55:42):
So check out those over at Understanding Autoimmune dot com
as well. Have a great week, whatever your adventures, and
join us next week for another brand new episode.

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