October 31, 2025 • 35 mins
For decades, their sound has been a cornerstone of Southern Rock, influencing countless artists and captivating millions. Yet, the full story of 38 Special’s true impact often goes untold. Prepare to dive deep into the distinct contributions and enduring influence of a band that didn’t just play Southern Rock, they helped define it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys and gals, this is recording artist Don Barnes
with thirty eight Special and you're listening to a grand
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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on that very website. Please welcome in. I always say
when you get to one like this, you just bow
your head, tip your cap and do the things that
you normally do out there. Don Barnes, The new album
is Milestone from the Great Hall of Fame band thirty
eight Special.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
How you doing man, Great Brandon, Thanks for having me on.
Nice to be hanging out with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Looking forward to it for these next few minutes to
talk some music. Well, tell us about this. You're no
stranger to music. You've been doing this a long time.
You guys have to be very excited. We're gonna play
a couple of cuts off this record today. Milestone. It
pretty much says it all right there from this LP.
You guys have put out there fifty years man, just
rock veterans doing your things, putting out some fresh new music.
(01:25):
Tell us all about it, man, fifty years. It is
a milestone. I couldn't think of any other other thing
to call it than that. But yeah, it's been a
great journey.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm just kind of like, don't blink, you know, because
all those decades will go by, you know, but we've
we've always had a good, strong bond together and we
put these music office music together through the years. You
know a lot of out of out of you know,
desperation at some points, you know, because you're contractedly obligated.
But you know that's the game you play, and you
knew the job was dangerous when you took it, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When you look back and you mentioned the years that passed.
Is it the songs of the fans, a little bit
of mix of everything, the stages you guys played. Give
me a reflection on kind of what goes through your
mind when you look back on that amount of time
and the accomplishments you guys have had in the business.
What goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, we you know, we started out as you know,
neighborhood guys. You know, we made all our mistakes in public,
and you know, had suffered all those years. We have
actually had three albums that didn't do so well. So
it took a while to finally get gain some footing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So a band is like a marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, you have a kind of support group, you know,
and you got you got to pick up, pick the
other guy up. If he's feeling down and feels like,
you know, he's got to you got to leave and
get a day job or something. You know, it's like
young man, hold out man, because it's right around the corner.
We came this far. We can't turn back now, you know.
So over the years we felt like we started looking inside,
just putting more truth into songs. I think that's what's
(02:50):
the longevity, that's the key to it is. It has
every one of those songs hold on loosely, relationship oriented,
you know, don't smother the other person, you know, caught
up in you as a new love. And it was
that kind of thing, you know. So we started seeing that,
you know, we were more fans of British Invasion, you know,
Searchers and Beatles and just you know, those kind of
(03:12):
groups more so than just Southern rock. Southern rock is
more like a linear thing. It's more about you know,
blues and blues based and whiskey and you know, gators
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
We were, we were more.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I was kind of an attentive student through when I
was young years of well written songs, good choruses that
lift up out of the song and lift people up.
And you know, we started in Jacksonville, Florida's home base
of everybody Leonard Skinner and Mallie Hatchett and all this groups.
And it was a navy town, so we all as
young kids, we played sailors clubs.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Ronnie Vans at, Dwayne Almond, Greg Almond, everybody played sailors clubs.
So we were, you know, exposed to the structures of
songwriting fifteen years old. You know, you start seeing where
the payoff is. You start seeing the craft of it,
you know, and a lot of people will come forward
and they've never done it before. They go, how do
you write a song? Well, that was it was showing
(04:10):
you kind of a template of all those cover songs
we learned back in the day. It was Young Rascals
and Three Dog Night and it just everything. We practiced,
you know, in a living room and then went and
played at the Savors Club and watched them drink and fight.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know. We were under age, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But yeah, so you start learning those fundamentals a real
young age. You don't realize you're absorbing all that, you know.
So after a while, you after doing that for a
few years, you get a little cocky and think, well,
I can write my own songs now, and that's when
you go starve for the next ten years. So that's
not something I highly recommend, you know. But it started
out as with good faith. All the guys we were
(04:47):
like a family and it was all you know, well,
you all suffered together, and we know it builds a
lot of character when you're suffering together and you and
you a strong bond.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So, yeah, you mentioned a good point. It's all in
the songs, and we're gonna play a couple off the record
today too. But you mentioned those tunes hold On Loosely
and Caught Up in You and songs like that when
you guys were kind of back in the studio working
on those, and you get the feel whether you guys
had a handwriting it or you didn't, or they were
pitched to you, it's always about the song. It's about
great music and connection with fans. Did you guys feel
like there was something special in those two tunes specifically?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was just in a line of songs, And when
you go in a studio, you have, you know, your
ten or whatever songs in a row, so you just
kind of have to make a list of all the
overdubs you need to.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Do in the basic tracks and just everything.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So, uh, it's such a looking at the mountain all
at once. You can't really move the mountain at once,
so you're looking at just the tedious work of putting
all the right sounds and if it's in tune, and
just all those things. So you're it's a kind of
a tedious job, like you said, So you're you're it's
among a lot of other songs. Yeah, some of those
(05:51):
songs we felt like there was a little chance for them,
you know. But when no one's heard them yet and
you just made it up anyway, it's good. It's pretty
daunt experience to make up things from nothing, you know.
We have to always have to do that. You have
to little germ of an idea, but you know, no
one's heard it yet, so you don't have any promotion,
you don't have anybody, you know, cheering you on. You're
just putting your what the best you can do, taking
(06:13):
your best swing at it, you know. So hold on
loosely with a pretty linear song. The choruses what the
same uh? I mean the yah? The chorus is the
same chords as the verse are, so it's pretty linear.
It just starts off with the verse and the same
chords and course. But you know, sometimes the beauty is
in the simplicity of something, you know, just broad strokes, you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Know, it's what it feels like to you have broad
stroke or strokes, and you guys get out there too
and just have a lot of fun with your music too,
and really have it resonated with the crowd. Here Again
Don Barnes thirty eight special Here the new album Milestone
across all the DSPs out there, so.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Much, so right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Let's tell you what I'd love to say that line
every day in life to be thankfu for what you
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Speaker 6 (08:00):
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Speaker 8 (08:04):
In the sheet of the.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Nice Give me so much. She is so nice, girl.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
I want to feel your heat down.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
To the corner. Kisses on other sheet. Make your bag
for more, girl, go your she go minute well love,
you want to walk clean.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
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hold and charge my everywhere.
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Do you love?
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Speaker 16 (14:33):
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Speaker 2 (14:40):
Morell Becker Don Barnes on the Backstage Past thirty eight special,
The Brandy Record Milestone across all the DSPs out there.
Make sure you guys go download or check out the
music on those big platforms out there wherever you downloader
stream music. So let's talk about this one. Don love
it so much so right leadoff track for this record.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Love this song.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, it was just you know, we explore all different avenues, relationships,
you know, and that was just pretty much the moment
of passion, the heat of the moment, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But it has a double meeting.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's kind of like, you know, you finally meet the
right person, you got it right, So she does so
much so right for your life and personally.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it really does. And it sets a tone for
the record too. I love that you collaborations are becoming
more of the norm in the industry today too. You
guys actually a collaborating with a great, great group of
train who's been out there for a long time. Slightly controversial.
Let's get a little backstory on this one.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, that was Pat Monahani. He had he and Joe
Bonamassa a great guitar. So they had done an in
version of hold On loosely and I was in the
middle of recording the you know, the Milestone album and
it had they had released it the YouTube and it
got like two one hundred million, I got a million
hits or something, and I reached out, thought, I'm gonna
reach out to his manager and see if he'd like
(15:55):
to do a sing something with me on the new album.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
And he came back and said he said, he absolutely
love to do it. He's been a fan all of
his life.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Saw us in Erie, Pennsylvania, you know, so he came
in crushed it. You know, we had a great time.
So I made a new friend and I told him that,
you know, between the two of us, we could probably
scare up a pretty good song if you want to
do some writing in the future.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He said absolutely. So all that worked out great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So we're a the bottom of that record. Windows of
Memories this really kind of put the life in kind
of that that state of mind looking back at it too,
because you're right, it's full of memories too, and I
love that you can look at it through a different
kind of that pain glass window or just any kind
of windows out there.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's a really good song. That one was It was
kind of inspired. First of all.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was just that morning I was going to the
studio and I had little had little bits and pieces
of it, but it had been inspired from being in
New York. I saw's Macy's have these windows all the
way around the store. You know, I have dioramas of
different eras from the forties, fifties, sixties, and he shows
the people in the living room, the fire burning and
just all these So it it kind of brought me
(17:02):
to a point where I have so many windows in
my life of things that you know, I do remember
that sometimes they were great times, sometimes they were not
so great. But uh, you know, I just felt compelled
to put something together that talks about a little bit about,
you know, through your past and as we get older,
you start looking back, and so those windows and memories
(17:24):
were just basically from the back of your back of
your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know, another one there too. You're right about this,
the life slips slips away from us because we're so
busy this you know, nine to five and of course, uh,
just the busy lives that we have raising kids and
everything out there else out there for parents. But making
up for lost time, that's really one that hits home
right there to it's core, no doubt, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That is it is that was one of those My
wife is a bit of an inspiration through the whole album,
and so some of those songs. You know, when you
have a purpose, like a fiftieth anniversary, you have to
have a bet. You're driven to create, and so you
start looking around, well what do I create from my muse?
And so my wife came along and in my life
(18:04):
from fourteen years ago, and you know, everything was good,
and that song was just about it, basically, you know,
making up for that lost time because you're spending your
life with someone else that's not right. And so you
move on and you gain strength from moving on and
you try to, you know, just look forward.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Anyway, that one just came out.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was a good title and it was a good
premise to write about.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, when you think back, of course, I was
born very I say, it's still young now in nineteen eighty,
but I listened to educational got a really crash course
on you guys, and I mean Reo Speedwagon and so
many great bands you know doing their thing for classic
rock back there in your mind? What made that era
just so great with so many great bands delivering their
message out.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There a lot of things and for of course, it
was the eighties and that was you know, all the
good feelings and that people were kind of a new awakening,
you know, after the seventies had been kind of a
drag with the fuel lines and all everything was going on.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
So it turned around.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But the advent of MTV came along, and you know,
it was in everyone's living room if they had cable TV.
We were the thirteenth video of MTV the first day,
and we weren't quite ready for prime time. We had
three feet of hair and looked like bridge trolls, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It worked out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You know, there's all the other people on there. They
were ready, they had all the hair, hairstyles and all that.
We were just against the norm, I guess, and it
kind of singled us out. But uh, you know, it
was just basically that feel good time. That's why the
ages are so so popular still. People look back and
it was a great time to be growing up and
at high school and all that. You know, so a
(19:44):
lot of people, you know, at the time, the memories
they collect become the fabric of their life. We didn't
realize that. You know, I don't think any real Kevin
I've talked to Kevin cronin the same thing. You're just
creating songs personally, you don't realize that they're going to
take come and put them in their heart and it
lives there all the time, saying songs kind of belong
(20:04):
to those people. Now, you know, if you're kind of
just the conduit, I guess, you know. We we try
to play them perfectly for people in crowds, and we
do one hundred cities a year, so we see all
the instant reactions, sometimes tears in their eyes. You know,
So those songs they really mean it's a pretty emotional thing.
But we didn't realize we were doing it back then.
We were just trying to get on the radio. You know,
(20:25):
it's a highly competitive, highly competitive field. You know, Like
I said before, that's something I really recommends. Tell these
young guys, it said, you know, you know they want
to get a record deal. I said, you know, you
get a record deal, people think you made it. You
actually just get a chance to play in the big leagues.
If you can't deliver, you're going right back to the
(20:46):
dirty clubs. And you know, and I tell them, just
just play on the weekend with your buddies, have a
couple of beers.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Have some fun and everything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But when you try to eat from it and try to,
you know, support and pay your bills. That's when it
gets really tough because you're sacrificing you. You gotta be
five steps ahead of yourself. So I don't know if that
answered the question, but anyway, through those years, that was
a good.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Good time.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, great advice for new artists out there too well.
Time to play bable off the record milestone again. Thirty
eight Special dot com could be coming to a city
near you two, or at least getting ready for twenty
twenty six to promote this album out there too. Love
this song, love all these songs and there listen to
it cover to cover all I haven't said here. It
is Don Barnes and thirty eight Special, the backstage Pass,
coming right back after a quick time out, Stay tuned
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more to come.
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Now.
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You may come back tomorrow it's been too hard. It's
July because you more moments left.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Tomorrow to see am employments today.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
There are times that you call even putting my mind
with some weird and even though I know you need me,
I'll built these walls who bound my.
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To out the edges. I still not find new words
Conte sign my.
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Head, I would like them for CAUs donsky, I'm talk
and don't I have a saved.
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Walking down the streets of the city, thinking about how things.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Might have been.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Funny, how the words still escape me. But I'm picking
up the pieces again, keep id in the.
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To U the ages.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I fear not budors coming sun.
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Everybody didn't recause.
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Was going at dog.
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You cann haven't seved, cannot I haven't saved all.
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Chance to serve this story around.
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Ways to blas and say the love.
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The bele.
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Gill as true up.
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The words gone, so.
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I do all, So let's go up. Don't kill you all?
Have it said?
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Capponed through uta still words doming son, I do.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
And no ha, I have it so.
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Speaker 2 (28:10):
And back here the backstage past. Don Barnes kind of
enough to join us talk about everything thirty eight Special
and of course the new record Milestone across all the
DSPs out there too, and of course coming to a
city near you to promote this record too. And I
can't wait to see him live one day. I've not
had the chance yet, but it's coming up hopefully. Oh yeah,
if you guys come back to Lake Charles in that
place called the Golden Nugget down there, which I know
y'all played a few times, I'd love to come to you, guess.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
It's always a great time come see us, Come be
my guest. Love to have you bun.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You got it, man, Hey, let's talk about this one
all I haven't said you were talking about this pre show.
This was already again on the roll now, a single
that's gaining a lot of momentum, right.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, there's over a million streams. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know, we're honor it's up for consideration for
a Grammy. We've never had anything like that happen, so,
you know. And the album came out, it was the
top ten and number five was the top ten rockout
Alms in the country, number twenty five overall in the country.
So after fifty years, it's really nice to see after all,
(29:07):
you know, that people are still out there, that fan
base and they still like the sound of it. All
I Haven't said was I had mentioned about my wife
being an inspiration. She actually co wrote this song with
me because I was just a nutshell story here. I
was scrumming some major seventh Corps, just noodling around, and
she was in the kitchen and she's got a little
musical head, and she said, is that something you're working on?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Said, nah, just you know, noodling around. She said.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
She came around the corner and said that sounds like
that should be called All I Haven't said, right out
of the clear blues, Like, what say that again? So
it was a perfect title. So we just wrote it.
You know, you kind of write to a destination, you know.
So she sat down and helped me write some lyrics,
and so she's got songwriting credit on it. You know,
it's pretty cute to see her sign up for Asscap
and her royalties and everything.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
You know, she took on that too. Dell like Tya.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Sometimes they're the biggest achievers. Overachievers are significant others, and
I tell you, sometimes they up to the ideas that
are better than us. Sometimes say that again, I've had
to say that a few times in my time as well. Yeah,
looking back at it, loved it back to the seventies,
early eighties, right there, rocking into the night, and I'm
sure that one just never gets old to play too, right.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Oh, that's always a fun one.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We actually opened the show with that, because that's what
we're going to be doing. We're going to be rocking
our shows and we take that party. You know, it's
always one hundred and ten percent. People know they come
to a show, it's going to be an experience, and
we just take them for a ride.
Speaker 18 (30:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We'd start off explosive like that and keep climbing, and
somewhere around the middle we give them a little break
with Second Chance, which was a big hit song, more mellow,
and then we just throw all the big hits at
them all the way through. We have so many, very
fortunate to have a lot of top forty, top twenty songs.
We we put little medleys together, many medleys, and you know,
(30:51):
two and a half minutes of the bang it up
against another song, it's another hit song or song from movies, Teacher, Teacher,
Back to Paradise from Revenge of the Nerds movie. We
put everything into the show, so you know, so, like
I said, we take them for a ride and it
is out in one hundred and two minutes. They saved
my production guys, my sound guys, and sometimes I have
(31:11):
to turn the audience. I turn you up because the
audience is singing louder than you are. So it's always
a good time.
Speaker 18 (31:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
When you look back at that Wild Eyed Southern Boys
record too, what kind of comes to mind on that
one too? So much fun on there and again just
more songs that really spill out and talk to fans too.
They had to be fun to put that one together, right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
All of course, being in a band, you know, they're
all brothers, you know, we all have a lot of
laughs and roll down the road, trade insults with each
other and that kind of thing, just like any guys do,
you know. But in the studio, yeah, it was it
was business, but it was you know the element of
a little bit of desperation was there because we hadn't
been seeing a lot of success up to that point,
(31:51):
and so This was kind of a do or die thing,
so we knew we had to put the nose to
the grindstone and get it out there and put all
these different, diverse songs together and make it make it
a ride. We always try to make an album kind
of a ride for the listeners, so everything doesn't sound
the same.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You know, when you get a little bit of downtime,
I guess you mentioned coming off the road or getting
a chance to kind of come home and kind of
do your thing, or be with family, what have you.
What's kind of your go to, maybe a hobby or
an escape when you're not doing music.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We play golf, where none of us are any good.
We're not gonna make the tour anytime soon, but when
we go out there. You know, I had a boat
for years and hardly ever saw it, so I finally
had to sell that.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
But I used to like to do the boating. But
you know, it's a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Times, and we do have one hundred cities a year,
so that's two hundred days. You know, we travel and
all that, so it is nice to get home in
the fall and the holidays and everything. My wife and
I don't we don't buy any gifts for each other anymore.
We take trips. We went to Edinburgh, Scotland one year,
Beautiful there at Christmas time. They liked that whole city.
(32:54):
Look on YouTube Edinburgh at Christmas time. Beautiful went to Dublin, Ireland,
went all over Ireland one year anyway. So you know,
that's those kind of things we like to do.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Always fun to do that too. As far as food
and things like that, I guess being at home, do
you guys like to h to cook? And I guess
when you do, what kind of food do you likesand.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Like it all?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's like the typhood. My wife and I love the typhoon.
We've got a favorite restaurant around here. And you know,
of course I like Indian food too. It's a little
rich for her, but you know I have to get
my Indian fixed.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Too, you know. But we get it out on the road.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
All these guys are connoisseurs and I've got Buried done away.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
He's a top shift. This guy can he can cook typhood.
He has all the ingredients at home and everything. He
he had a I think it was.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
A housekeeper something to taught him all that stuff. But
all those guys are you know, big food foodies.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, if as far as the band goes a
sports teams out there, anybody addicted to college football or
NFL or baseball anything.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Like that, Uh well, you know we of course I
live in Atlanta, so I got to be a Braves fan,
you know. We following these got heartbreak kids, you know,
every time they get to the big dance. But everybody's
I've got Jerry Riggs is a big Tennessee fan, and
he say, just they just beat Arkansas the other last week,
(34:12):
and so anyway, you had a lot of college ball.
These guys are all big fans. We're back in the
dressing room. People think that, you know, they must be
partying back there. Man, we're glued to a TV with
the game pled.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's congratulations on the years and definitely, I mean half
a century, no doubt about that too. Looking back on it,
it definitely is a milestone. Of course, all these songs
available for download and stream out there too, and still
kicking ass and taking names is thirty eight Special. Thirty
eight Special dot com. Check out the merch Tour schedule
and give them a like on social media, the great
Don Barnes out there thirty eight Special. Donald appreciate the
(34:45):
time and looking forward to many more milestones and.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Appreciate you having me on and come see us sometime
and I'd love to say thank you in person.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
They'd love to have you. You got it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
The one of the only. Don Barnes are thirty eight
Special back with more great shows KYBN ninety eight point one,
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Backstage Past. We're great artists coming up here. Take care,
God bless We will see you soon.
Speaker 18 (35:12):
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Hey, guys and gals, this is recording artist Don Barnes
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on that very website. Please welcome in. I always say
when you get to one like this, you just bow
your head, tip your cap and do the things that
you normally do out there. Don Barnes, The new album
is Milestone from the Great Hall of Fame band thirty
eight Special.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
How you doing man, Great Brandon, Thanks for having me on.
Nice to be hanging out with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Looking forward to it for these next few minutes to
talk some music. Well, tell us about this. You're no
stranger to music. You've been doing this a long time.
You guys have to be very excited. We're gonna play
a couple of cuts off this record today. Milestone. It
pretty much says it all right there from this LP.
You guys have put out there fifty years man, just
rock veterans doing your things, putting out some fresh new music.
(01:25):
Tell us all about it, man, fifty years. It is
a milestone. I couldn't think of any other other thing
to call it than that. But yeah, it's been a
great journey.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm just kind of like, don't blink, you know, because
all those decades will go by, you know, but we've
we've always had a good, strong bond together and we
put these music office music together through the years. You
know a lot of out of out of you know,
desperation at some points, you know, because you're contractedly obligated.
But you know that's the game you play, and you
knew the job was dangerous when you took it, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When you look back and you mentioned the years that passed.
Is it the songs of the fans, a little bit
of mix of everything, the stages you guys played. Give
me a reflection on kind of what goes through your
mind when you look back on that amount of time
and the accomplishments you guys have had in the business.
What goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, we you know, we started out as you know,
neighborhood guys. You know, we made all our mistakes in public,
and you know, had suffered all those years. We have
actually had three albums that didn't do so well. So
it took a while to finally get gain some footing.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So a band is like a marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, you have a kind of support group, you know,
and you got you got to pick up, pick the
other guy up. If he's feeling down and feels like,
you know, he's got to you got to leave and
get a day job or something. You know, it's like
young man, hold out man, because it's right around the corner.
We came this far. We can't turn back now, you know.
So over the years we felt like we started looking inside,
just putting more truth into songs. I think that's what's
(02:50):
the longevity, that's the key to it is. It has
every one of those songs hold on loosely, relationship oriented,
you know, don't smother the other person, you know, caught
up in you as a new love. And it was
that kind of thing, you know. So we started seeing that,
you know, we were more fans of British Invasion, you know,
Searchers and Beatles and just you know, those kind of
(03:12):
groups more so than just Southern rock. Southern rock is
more like a linear thing. It's more about you know,
blues and blues based and whiskey and you know, gators
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
We were, we were more.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I was kind of an attentive student through when I
was young years of well written songs, good choruses that
lift up out of the song and lift people up.
And you know, we started in Jacksonville, Florida's home base
of everybody Leonard Skinner and Mallie Hatchett and all this groups.
And it was a navy town, so we all as
young kids, we played sailors clubs.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Ronnie Vans at, Dwayne Almond, Greg Almond, everybody played sailors clubs.
So we were, you know, exposed to the structures of
songwriting fifteen years old. You know, you start seeing where
the payoff is. You start seeing the craft of it,
you know, and a lot of people will come forward
and they've never done it before. They go, how do
you write a song? Well, that was it was showing
(04:10):
you kind of a template of all those cover songs
we learned back in the day. It was Young Rascals
and Three Dog Night and it just everything. We practiced,
you know, in a living room and then went and
played at the Savors Club and watched them drink and fight.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know. We were under age, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But yeah, so you start learning those fundamentals a real
young age. You don't realize you're absorbing all that, you know.
So after a while, you after doing that for a
few years, you get a little cocky and think, well,
I can write my own songs now, and that's when
you go starve for the next ten years. So that's
not something I highly recommend, you know. But it started
out as with good faith. All the guys we were
(04:47):
like a family and it was all you know, well,
you all suffered together, and we know it builds a
lot of character when you're suffering together and you and
you a strong bond.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So, yeah, you mentioned a good point. It's all in
the songs, and we're gonna play a couple off the record
today too. But you mentioned those tunes hold On Loosely
and Caught Up in You and songs like that when
you guys were kind of back in the studio working
on those, and you get the feel whether you guys
had a handwriting it or you didn't, or they were
pitched to you, it's always about the song. It's about
great music and connection with fans. Did you guys feel
like there was something special in those two tunes specifically?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was just in a line of songs, And when
you go in a studio, you have, you know, your
ten or whatever songs in a row, so you just
kind of have to make a list of all the
overdubs you need to.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Do in the basic tracks and just everything.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So, uh, it's such a looking at the mountain all
at once. You can't really move the mountain at once,
so you're looking at just the tedious work of putting
all the right sounds and if it's in tune, and
just all those things. So you're it's a kind of
a tedious job, like you said, So you're you're it's
among a lot of other songs. Yeah, some of those
(05:51):
songs we felt like there was a little chance for them,
you know. But when no one's heard them yet and
you just made it up anyway, it's good. It's pretty
daunt experience to make up things from nothing, you know.
We have to always have to do that. You have
to little germ of an idea, but you know, no
one's heard it yet, so you don't have any promotion,
you don't have anybody, you know, cheering you on. You're
just putting your what the best you can do, taking
(06:13):
your best swing at it, you know. So hold on
loosely with a pretty linear song. The choruses what the
same uh? I mean the yah? The chorus is the
same chords as the verse are, so it's pretty linear.
It just starts off with the verse and the same
chords and course. But you know, sometimes the beauty is
in the simplicity of something, you know, just broad strokes, you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Know, it's what it feels like to you have broad
stroke or strokes, and you guys get out there too
and just have a lot of fun with your music too,
and really have it resonated with the crowd. Here Again
Don Barnes thirty eight special Here the new album Milestone
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Speaker 4 (06:48):
Much, so right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
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Morell Becker Don Barnes on the Backstage Past thirty eight special,
The Brandy Record Milestone across all the DSPs out there.
Make sure you guys go download or check out the
music on those big platforms out there wherever you downloader
stream music. So let's talk about this one. Don love
it so much so right leadoff track for this record.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Love this song.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, it was just you know, we explore all different avenues, relationships,
you know, and that was just pretty much the moment
of passion, the heat of the moment, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But it has a double meeting.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's kind of like, you know, you finally meet the
right person, you got it right, So she does so
much so right for your life and personally.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it really does. And it sets a tone for
the record too. I love that you collaborations are becoming
more of the norm in the industry today too. You
guys actually a collaborating with a great, great group of
train who's been out there for a long time. Slightly controversial.
Let's get a little backstory on this one.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, that was Pat Monahani. He had he and Joe
Bonamassa a great guitar. So they had done an in
version of hold On loosely and I was in the
middle of recording the you know, the Milestone album and
it had they had released it the YouTube and it
got like two one hundred million, I got a million
hits or something, and I reached out, thought, I'm gonna
reach out to his manager and see if he'd like
(15:55):
to do a sing something with me on the new album.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
And he came back and said he said, he absolutely
love to do it. He's been a fan all of
his life.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Saw us in Erie, Pennsylvania, you know, so he came
in crushed it. You know, we had a great time.
So I made a new friend and I told him that,
you know, between the two of us, we could probably
scare up a pretty good song if you want to
do some writing in the future.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He said absolutely. So all that worked out great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So we're a the bottom of that record. Windows of
Memories this really kind of put the life in kind
of that that state of mind looking back at it too,
because you're right, it's full of memories too, and I
love that you can look at it through a different
kind of that pain glass window or just any kind
of windows out there.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's a really good song. That one was It was
kind of inspired. First of all.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was just that morning I was going to the
studio and I had little had little bits and pieces
of it, but it had been inspired from being in
New York. I saw's Macy's have these windows all the
way around the store. You know, I have dioramas of
different eras from the forties, fifties, sixties, and he shows
the people in the living room, the fire burning and
just all these So it it kind of brought me
(17:02):
to a point where I have so many windows in
my life of things that you know, I do remember
that sometimes they were great times, sometimes they were not
so great. But uh, you know, I just felt compelled
to put something together that talks about a little bit about,
you know, through your past and as we get older,
you start looking back, and so those windows and memories
(17:24):
were just basically from the back of your back of
your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know, another one there too. You're right about this,
the life slips slips away from us because we're so
busy this you know, nine to five and of course, uh,
just the busy lives that we have raising kids and
everything out there else out there for parents. But making
up for lost time, that's really one that hits home
right there to it's core, no doubt, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That is it is that was one of those My
wife is a bit of an inspiration through the whole album,
and so some of those songs. You know, when you
have a purpose, like a fiftieth anniversary, you have to
have a bet. You're driven to create, and so you
start looking around, well what do I create from my muse?
And so my wife came along and in my life
(18:04):
from fourteen years ago, and you know, everything was good,
and that song was just about it, basically, you know,
making up for that lost time because you're spending your
life with someone else that's not right. And so you
move on and you gain strength from moving on and
you try to, you know, just look forward.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Anyway, that one just came out.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was a good title and it was a good
premise to write about.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, when you think back, of course, I was
born very I say, it's still young now in nineteen eighty,
but I listened to educational got a really crash course
on you guys, and I mean Reo Speedwagon and so
many great bands you know doing their thing for classic
rock back there in your mind? What made that era
just so great with so many great bands delivering their
message out.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There a lot of things and for of course, it
was the eighties and that was you know, all the
good feelings and that people were kind of a new awakening,
you know, after the seventies had been kind of a
drag with the fuel lines and all everything was going on.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
So it turned around.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But the advent of MTV came along, and you know,
it was in everyone's living room if they had cable TV.
We were the thirteenth video of MTV the first day,
and we weren't quite ready for prime time. We had
three feet of hair and looked like bridge trolls, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It worked out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You know, there's all the other people on there. They
were ready, they had all the hair, hairstyles and all that.
We were just against the norm, I guess, and it
kind of singled us out. But uh, you know, it
was just basically that feel good time. That's why the
ages are so so popular still. People look back and
it was a great time to be growing up and
at high school and all that. You know, so a
(19:44):
lot of people, you know, at the time, the memories
they collect become the fabric of their life. We didn't
realize that. You know, I don't think any real Kevin
I've talked to Kevin cronin the same thing. You're just
creating songs personally, you don't realize that they're going to
take come and put them in their heart and it
lives there all the time, saying songs kind of belong
(20:04):
to those people. Now, you know, if you're kind of
just the conduit, I guess, you know. We we try
to play them perfectly for people in crowds, and we
do one hundred cities a year, so we see all
the instant reactions, sometimes tears in their eyes. You know,
So those songs they really mean it's a pretty emotional thing.
But we didn't realize we were doing it back then.
We were just trying to get on the radio. You know,
(20:25):
it's a highly competitive, highly competitive field. You know, Like
I said before, that's something I really recommends. Tell these
young guys, it said, you know, you know they want
to get a record deal. I said, you know, you
get a record deal, people think you made it. You
actually just get a chance to play in the big leagues.
If you can't deliver, you're going right back to the
(20:46):
dirty clubs. And you know, and I tell them, just
just play on the weekend with your buddies, have a
couple of beers.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Have some fun and everything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But when you try to eat from it and try to,
you know, support and pay your bills. That's when it
gets really tough because you're sacrificing you. You gotta be
five steps ahead of yourself. So I don't know if that
answered the question, but anyway, through those years, that was
a good.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Good time.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, great advice for new artists out there too well.
Time to play bable off the record milestone again. Thirty
eight Special dot com could be coming to a city
near you two, or at least getting ready for twenty
twenty six to promote this album out there too. Love
this song, love all these songs and there listen to
it cover to cover all I haven't said here. It
is Don Barnes and thirty eight Special, the backstage Pass,
coming right back after a quick time out, Stay tuned
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more to come.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
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Conte sign my.
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Head, I would like them for CAUs donsky, I'm talk
and don't I have a saved.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Walking down the streets of the city, thinking about how things.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Might have been.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Funny, how the words still escape me. But I'm picking
up the pieces again, keep id in the.
Speaker 17 (23:00):
To U the ages.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I fear not budors coming sun.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Everybody didn't recause.
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Was going at dog.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You cann haven't seved, cannot I haven't saved all.
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Chance to serve this story around.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Ways to blas and say the love.
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The bele.
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Gill as true up.
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I do all, So let's go up. Don't kill you all?
Have it said?
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Capponed through uta still words doming son, I do.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
And no ha, I have it so.
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Speaker 16 (27:57):
Welcome to another edition of Backstaya Pass, powered by the
Sports Guys Podcast with your host Brandon Morell.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And back here the backstage past. Don Barnes kind of
enough to join us talk about everything thirty eight Special
and of course the new record Milestone across all the
DSPs out there too, and of course coming to a
city near you to promote this record too. And I
can't wait to see him live one day. I've not
had the chance yet, but it's coming up hopefully. Oh yeah,
if you guys come back to Lake Charles in that
place called the Golden Nugget down there, which I know
y'all played a few times, I'd love to come to you, guess.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
It's always a great time come see us, Come be
my guest. Love to have you bun.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You got it, man, Hey, let's talk about this one
all I haven't said you were talking about this pre show.
This was already again on the roll now, a single
that's gaining a lot of momentum, right.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, there's over a million streams. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know, we're honor it's up for consideration for
a Grammy. We've never had anything like that happen, so,
you know. And the album came out, it was the
top ten and number five was the top ten rockout
Alms in the country, number twenty five overall in the country.
So after fifty years, it's really nice to see after all,
(29:07):
you know, that people are still out there, that fan
base and they still like the sound of it. All
I Haven't said was I had mentioned about my wife
being an inspiration. She actually co wrote this song with
me because I was just a nutshell story here. I
was scrumming some major seventh Corps, just noodling around, and
she was in the kitchen and she's got a little
musical head, and she said, is that something you're working on?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Said, nah, just you know, noodling around. She said.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
She came around the corner and said that sounds like
that should be called All I Haven't said, right out
of the clear blues, Like, what say that again? So
it was a perfect title. So we just wrote it.
You know, you kind of write to a destination, you know.
So she sat down and helped me write some lyrics,
and so she's got songwriting credit on it. You know,
it's pretty cute to see her sign up for Asscap
and her royalties and everything.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
You know, she took on that too. Dell like Tya.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Sometimes they're the biggest achievers. Overachievers are significant others, and
I tell you, sometimes they up to the ideas that
are better than us. Sometimes say that again, I've had
to say that a few times in my time as well. Yeah,
looking back at it, loved it back to the seventies,
early eighties, right there, rocking into the night, and I'm
sure that one just never gets old to play too, right.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Oh, that's always a fun one.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We actually opened the show with that, because that's what
we're going to be doing. We're going to be rocking
our shows and we take that party. You know, it's
always one hundred and ten percent. People know they come
to a show, it's going to be an experience, and
we just take them for a ride.
Speaker 18 (30:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We'd start off explosive like that and keep climbing, and
somewhere around the middle we give them a little break
with Second Chance, which was a big hit song, more mellow,
and then we just throw all the big hits at
them all the way through. We have so many, very
fortunate to have a lot of top forty, top twenty songs.
We we put little medleys together, many medleys, and you know,
(30:51):
two and a half minutes of the bang it up
against another song, it's another hit song or song from movies, Teacher, Teacher,
Back to Paradise from Revenge of the Nerds movie. We
put everything into the show, so you know, so, like
I said, we take them for a ride and it
is out in one hundred and two minutes. They saved
my production guys, my sound guys, and sometimes I have
(31:11):
to turn the audience. I turn you up because the
audience is singing louder than you are. So it's always
a good time.
Speaker 18 (31:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
When you look back at that Wild Eyed Southern Boys
record too, what kind of comes to mind on that
one too? So much fun on there and again just
more songs that really spill out and talk to fans too.
They had to be fun to put that one together, right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
All of course, being in a band, you know, they're
all brothers, you know, we all have a lot of
laughs and roll down the road, trade insults with each
other and that kind of thing, just like any guys do,
you know. But in the studio, yeah, it was it
was business, but it was you know the element of
a little bit of desperation was there because we hadn't
been seeing a lot of success up to that point,
(31:51):
and so This was kind of a do or die thing,
so we knew we had to put the nose to
the grindstone and get it out there and put all
these different, diverse songs together and make it make it
a ride. We always try to make an album kind
of a ride for the listeners, so everything doesn't sound
the same.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You know, when you get a little bit of downtime,
I guess you mentioned coming off the road or getting
a chance to kind of come home and kind of
do your thing, or be with family, what have you.
What's kind of your go to, maybe a hobby or
an escape when you're not doing music.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We play golf, where none of us are any good.
We're not gonna make the tour anytime soon, but when
we go out there. You know, I had a boat
for years and hardly ever saw it, so I finally
had to sell that.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
But I used to like to do the boating. But
you know, it's a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Times, and we do have one hundred cities a year,
so that's two hundred days. You know, we travel and
all that, so it is nice to get home in
the fall and the holidays and everything. My wife and
I don't we don't buy any gifts for each other anymore.
We take trips. We went to Edinburgh, Scotland one year,
Beautiful there at Christmas time. They liked that whole city.
(32:54):
Look on YouTube Edinburgh at Christmas time. Beautiful went to Dublin, Ireland,
went all over Ireland one year anyway. So you know,
that's those kind of things we like to do.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Always fun to do that too. As far as food
and things like that, I guess being at home, do
you guys like to h to cook? And I guess
when you do, what kind of food do you likesand.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Like it all?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's like the typhood. My wife and I love the typhoon.
We've got a favorite restaurant around here. And you know,
of course I like Indian food too. It's a little
rich for her, but you know I have to get
my Indian fixed.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Too, you know. But we get it out on the road.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
All these guys are connoisseurs and I've got Buried done away.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
He's a top shift. This guy can he can cook typhood.
He has all the ingredients at home and everything. He
he had a I think it was.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
A housekeeper something to taught him all that stuff. But
all those guys are you know, big food foodies.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, if as far as the band goes a
sports teams out there, anybody addicted to college football or
NFL or baseball anything.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Like that, Uh well, you know we of course I
live in Atlanta, so I got to be a Braves fan,
you know. We following these got heartbreak kids, you know,
every time they get to the big dance. But everybody's
I've got Jerry Riggs is a big Tennessee fan, and
he say, just they just beat Arkansas the other last week,
(34:12):
and so anyway, you had a lot of college ball.
These guys are all big fans. We're back in the
dressing room. People think that, you know, they must be
partying back there. Man, we're glued to a TV with
the game pled.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's congratulations on the years and definitely, I mean half
a century, no doubt about that too. Looking back on it,
it definitely is a milestone. Of course, all these songs
available for download and stream out there too, and still
kicking ass and taking names is thirty eight Special. Thirty
eight Special dot com. Check out the merch Tour schedule
and give them a like on social media, the great
Don Barnes out there thirty eight Special. Donald appreciate the
(34:45):
time and looking forward to many more milestones and.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Appreciate you having me on and come see us sometime
and I'd love to say thank you in person.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
They'd love to have you. You got it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
The one of the only. Don Barnes are thirty eight
Special back with more great shows KYBN ninety eight point one,
your Bay Area broadcasting networking friends at the Sports Guys
podcast dot com and of course out there THCHWN dot
org and our friends iHeartRadio Podcasts anytime out there the
Backstage Past. We're great artists coming up here. Take care,
God bless We will see you soon.
Speaker 18 (35:12):
Hey guys, this is recording artist Presley Tennant and you're
listening to a grand Slam of music, sports and entertainment.
It's the award nominated Backstage Past Podcast with Brandon Morele
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Speaker 4 (35:32):
Dot com, and at THWN dot org
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