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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey all, this is Nashville recording artist Tyler Rich and
you're listening to the Backstage Pass Brandon exclusively on KKTC
True Country ninety nine point nine in Tallas, New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And welcome inside the Backstage Pass fresh off the national trip. Well,
I'm worn out too as well, but you know what,
we keep on blowing and going. That's just the way
the entertainment business works. Here in radio two KKTC True
Country ninety nine point nine, and of course out there
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(00:32):
interviews in a matter of three days in that Tennessee
for Country Radio seminar, and please welcome in. You know,
you guys know I love the artists as much as
I do the producers and the songwriters here on the show.
I got a good one today.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
This guy's working with Madonna and so many people out
there in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And Danny on the show, Danny, what's up man? How
are you bro? It's doing good man.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We just got through with a lot of interviews there
in Nashville, Tennessee at fifty six.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's crazy, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, I know how that goes. Back in the day,
we used to have to do those like press or
things where you just do them back to back to
back to back, and by the fifth or seventh one
you're just making shut up.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Before we get into the project with Man just talking
about in access and how much Michael Hutchett's you know,
meant to the business man for so many years out there.
I've been gone almost three decades now to love the
group in excess. I've had Andrew Ferriss here on my
joke to talk about so many of the great projects
and all that great music they put back out in
the eighties too. Let's talk about your background, Man, I
mentioned you working with Madonna and so many great people
(01:32):
out there. What kind of drew you Danny to the
music business and kind of early on in your career,
what was kind of thriving out there? What what did
that music bug like, I want to take this from
a hobby to a career.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Wow, well, you know, and I'm already old as it is.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It was gonna make me sound even older. But he
had been dead for ten years by the time I
got to him. But I saw I saw poster Jimmy.
I was about eleven, and I didn't kind of understand
what it meant. I just saw that image and the
white strat not my I want that. And I was
really into sports as a kid, but when it became
a parent, by like twelve or thirteen that I wasn't
(02:10):
going to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
There's not a ten inch Jews in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I kind of went throughout and Hendricks was really the
first sort of person that connected me to it and
like kind of lit the fire. But as a kid
uses where you're so esusually when you're first getting into
music and you're young, you're super opinionated, and this guy's
the best, that guy's the best. There's only but yeah,
(02:36):
it was really that was what set me off. But
what was really the kind of I think the thing,
the pivotal moment in my life or thing in my life.
And again somehow I just knew to do. This was
at about fifteen. I got a guitar at thirteen, and
by fifteen I had got my hands on like you know,
I had a little mini portas studio and a drum
machine and a synth, and I was starting to put
(03:00):
together and as it became available, I could get my
hands on more gear where by the time I think
I was about seventeen when I got my first sampler
and I was one of the first people in LA
to have one, and most musicians but he done with
a sampler. Those things are stupid d d d da
da da da dada. But just something and drew me
to it because I always more had a knack for
putting things together, you know than being the world's greatest
(03:23):
guitar player per saved and though that's what I wanted
to be, but in same with the sports, I realized
there was guys around me that were better players. But
I had a knack for knowing what to play, you
know what I mean, And that I don't think is
emphasized as much. That's what's going to take you somewhere.
There's especially these days you see these kids on YouTube. Man,
they're unbelievable, these nine year old kids playing like you
(03:44):
know yyz or Eddie Va Hill for now. You know,
stick a blank track in front of them, see if
they come up with Now.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That was always my.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Thing, so you know that sort of was it, you know,
getting into sampling and getting turned down the public enemy,
but then still being super into rock and just kind
of having access to all these different styles of music
out of time when everything was you know, separated, and
then going to the UK and meeting the you know,
(04:12):
black rape guys and coming to find out, wow, they
like me, you know, because if you tried to put
a drum loop on a rock record in the eighties,
the band would get you out of the studio with
a machete.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's like, we're not putting that shit on our stuff,
you know.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And it was with a hip hop side of things,
where if you wanted to play live instruments and stuff,
that wasn't really happening either. But then it started to
sort of there was just this you know sort of
some people that were kind of see where everything was going.
And I was really lucky because everyone was very open mind.
And when I came to realize, you know, the charts
(04:50):
there are crazy. You could have one hundred different styles
of music in the top ten. So people just loved music.
They weren't really caught up and was it RMB, was
it hip hop?
Speaker 7 (05:00):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Which?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Where are you here? Everything's very metalized. So yeah, that
was sort of it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We talk about this project here with in Excess of
Michael Hutchins, and I've seen the documentary for Inexcess. You
mentioned having Andrew Ferris here on the show. But I
love it, Danny, because this is a cool project talk
about you know, when he was living and this guy
was the big time rock star. This guy was like
living his dream. He did so much. He was revered
for all his great hits back in the day, like
(05:27):
the first time day. Oh, like what vibe went through you?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Because the funny thing with Michael is, you know, and
you got to put this all in the proper context
now it's he's he's look onst ceesess of in Excess
because at one point they were like quote unquote the
biggest man in the world, like they had that you know,
it would get the torch would get passed, and I
think you too, ca him up right behind it took it.
(05:51):
Never really ever let it go, because I don't know
if we have that anymore. But by the time the
way I got to Michael is Michael was very very
you know, he was just on this mission as an artist,
like he was constantly trying to push.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
The boundaries of whatever it is he was doing.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So he was a huge fan of that poster behind me,
that black Rape record, and that was my first hit record,
and he had heard it and he just fell in
love with the production and he reached out to Sean
right Or, the singer. So I love the sound of
this record because he had been working on stuff outside
of in Excess and that was really really important to
(06:29):
him because I think he felt like within the band.
I mean again, not knocking the band, but you know,
he had this other sort of itch he needed to scratch,
and that's sort of where I came in, and he
sent me some music to hear. He had been developing
some stuff with a guy named Andy Go from Gang
of Four, and I was immediate. I was like, wow,
(06:51):
this stuff's really really cool. And we got on the
phone and like you're saying, it's funny because to be honest,
I wasn't the biggest Inexcess fan, like going into it.
If you're of my age is I think I had
over the years at least two or three girlfriends that
were in love with him. So you know, it took
all of about fifteen seconds to fall in love with
the guy on the phone, and Michael was very he
(07:13):
was very direct. It's like what you saw was what
you got, and there was no games. And if he
was happy, he lets you know. He was unhappy, he
lets you know. And he was a real, real just
it was I was very lucky because it was again
it was I was sort of I had just had
a number one record and I was just sort of
like coming into the world and I kind of had
(07:34):
him as like a big brother, just sort of, you know,
show me the ropes a bit, so to speak. And
he was dealing with a ton of you know, stress
and drama because we were in London and the tabloid
press was just relentless because of his relationship with Paula,
So he had a lot of stuff going on outside
of the music. And I think the music we were
making was like one of the It was like a
(07:55):
bit of an oasis in that desert for him, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And let's talk about this project too, because these were
like songs he left behind too. This is like cool
vibe here, man. These are like reallyposthumous singles that are
there two new ones one way and of course saved
my life, which we're gonna play a little bit to
work on this, Like how all this came about? And
like in his catalog of songs to like leave behind Too,
How did you get involved with this project to produce
(08:23):
these two songs?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, yeah, I mean it goes back to when he
was alive.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
So we had been working on a record and.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We had about twelve So we had twelve songs finished
before he died, and they were basically done. I mean
we had even done some mixes and you know, we
had started. What had happened was him and Andy had
a really you know, sort of solid foundation because he
had been working with different people trying to find that
right person that he could work on his solo stuff with.
And he he went through a few different things and
(08:52):
he was trying to and they kind of got traction
and they had about six or seven songs, and then
I got brought into the picture really initially to focus
more on the sound. He still felt like something was missing,
but he liked what was there. It was obvious that
they were on something really cool. And then we sort
of our relationship kind of took on a life of
its own, and then we started writing together. We were just.
(09:14):
I mean, he was literally here. We were writing songs
up until a few days before he died, and then
he went back and I think if he had a
live we would have continued. We probably would have tried
to get a couple more in the can and looked
at what we had and at some point, you know,
figured out, Okay, what do you want to do with
this record, and maybe go out and promote it and
do all that stuff. But it didn't go down that way,
so he passed away, and in ninety nine the record
(09:36):
was licensed to V two. Because what's important to understand,
and they'll give you some insight into how and much
this meant to Michael.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
He self financed everything he did all and there's reasons
for that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
You know, but the bottom line is that's what's put
me in the position I'm in today to be able
to put it out. Because he self financed it, he
was in control of everything. He wanted to get the
music right. Then he could figure out what to do
with it, so to speak, which in those days he
could have got a you know, six figure record deal
without blanket, you know. But so to do it that
(10:09):
way then, I mean, now it does sound like a
big deal. It's what everybodchu you have to do. But
in those days where somebody of his stature, he could
have got a you know, he could have had an
advance and you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
So that's that's really what it was about for him.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
It was about getting it right creatively and finding this
sounding was chanting. And we put the record out on
V two in ninety nine, and you know, and in
fairness to the label, I think it was their second release,
but they had the Moby Records, so they knew how
to put a record out because that record was that
one came out right before us, I think, but outside
(10:43):
of Australia and the Light a Day. And then cut
to about ten years later, I got a phone call
from from a guy who was running the estate and
the day to day stuff for his trust, and it
turned out there were all these songs. There was just
tape and a tape locker didn't know what was on them.
So I'm like, you know, all right, well let's see
if there's even anything there, because we've got to kind
(11:05):
of listen to the stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
And it was like most of it was just on
two inch tapes.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So it had to get transferred and just I had
to open these sessions up and like kind of go
through this shit. But we figured it out really quickly
that there was material there, There was some stuff of value.
There were about thirty ideas, and I think I ultimately
got about seven things the public can year out of them.
So this is the result of that. And then the
other kind of piece to it was that, well, hey,
(11:30):
you know, there's no point in just putting another record
out without some way to market it, because we just
did that ten years ago and it didn't do much.
Let's let's preating get a documentary made that could like
sort of centerund the discovery of the songs and you know,
finishing them, and then we can weave in some of
Michael's story because nothing had been done at this point.
(11:51):
We're talking in two thousand and eight cut you know,
going through a bunch of different directors. It took about
eight years, and we finally in twenty seventeen got channels
in Australia to do The Last Rock Star and it
only aired in Australia and New Zealand, and was you know,
recut the film for an international release and then we
(12:11):
would release.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
These music shi anise of the film.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
For a bunch of reasons, it didn't shake out that
way and cut to like a late twenty three early funny, like,
you know, the fans knew about this music because there
were little bits and.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Pass of it in the Last Rock Star. Let's get
it out there. Let's start to get it out there
and build some momentum, you know, the hopeful release. And
that's why we did the final because I didn't stick
it on Spotify and do a digital release and I
didn't have the resources to promote that. And it's worked
out fantastic. You know, I think the I'm really proud
(12:45):
of everything we've done. I mean, the quality of the product,
and you know, I've have a long relationship with the
fan base, and I know the fan base is very
very you know, high on what we've done. And you know,
it's all sold out. As I said, we got something
new coming down the pike though we can talk about
a minute, but all the vinyls gone.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
You know, it's all been sold. And I know Michael
would dig that. I know he did.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
The fact I'm I'm talking on a podcast and you know,
it's really the d music world.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And the independent alternative media that's really champion this. I
haven't really got any mainstream support from anybody, and you
would think Michael Hutchinson excess, but it's you guys that
have really allowed this thing to kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Live in the ether. So I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It, man, We appreciate it as much, like I said,
as much as a fan as I am a media
host too. At the same time, Dude, this guy, like
I said, gone nearly three decades, gone too soon. But
I'll tell you, man, anytime you watch the documentary, and
like I said, I've had Andrew Ferriss here on the
show to talk everything in access to Man, it's it's
it's it's cool to to just chat with somebody who's
passionate about their work and passionate about what we do. Hey, Danny,
(13:52):
which one should I play first? And we'll give you
the choice, Saved My Life or one way?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
What are we gonna do.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Let's play saved my Life? Uh, you know, because one
way's gotten most of the focus. And then we'll talk
about what's coming down the pipe. There's a there's a
there's a CD that's coming out that's in about a
month a month and a half or so and uh
yes go we go with play Saved my Life.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Daddy said Danny Saber.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
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Speaker 9 (14:29):
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Speaker 10 (15:00):
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Speaker 11 (15:19):
Sami Life.
Speaker 12 (15:22):
Again, Say Sami Life again?
Speaker 6 (15:36):
To tell me you never see why, tell me you
can give it to me.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
To me, to me.
Speaker 11 (16:01):
Fall okay ba.
Speaker 13 (16:13):
Again, Semi okay, say.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
Semi again.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
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nine in Taus, New Mexico. So you mentioned that catalog
of songs Danny he left behind there. I love the
fact that saved my life. Can really this is gonna
be one of those songs that really rejuvenates somebody.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Wow, that's cool. I appreciate.
Speaker 11 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I mean because remember too, like I was sort of
finishing these you know, these have been an on and
off again sort of ongoing process. But saved my life
in particular was really you know, I hadn't the bat
on my mind. We were we I was working on
it while we were making the film, or at least
finishing it. So it's very cinematic, you know, in the
way if the last rocks are I'm sure a lot
of the fans have seen it and it lives online
(20:10):
and stuff. It really is effective. I mean it's really emotional,
and you know, I want to mention Bernard Feller and
he's saying on you know, like Herbie Cancock, he's one
of the most amazing vocalists of all time. He's doing
all the choral arrangements on there. So he came in
and helped me just like sort of beef it up
a bit. But it's all obviously Michael singing all the
lead vocals, and yeah, I appreciate that, man. I mean
(20:32):
it was just again just trying. You know, Michael left
me with a pretty good you know, he left me
with a good sense of like what would have flown
because we had done a lot of stuff together and
and our only sort of thing was, you know, we're
we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna let the music take it,
take us wherever it wants to take us. We're not
(20:54):
gonna rule anything out, you know, and you know, when
it's working, and you know what it is and and
you know, so he left me with a really strong
sense like you know what would have sort of own
creatively between the two of us because it was easy
for us.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
We just sort of connected and that was it.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
When we're off and running. But you know, I appreciate
that a lot's gone on.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's a lot, a lot of years, a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
A lot of you know, nipping and tucking and so
to speak. And so yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Man, oh dude, it's awesome too. You mentioned y'all were
sold out, but I love that too, because you were talking.
We were just kind of chit chatting for the show
that standard black and the White and it would be
a Boss Sonics and of course out there there was
also another version of it and read via the Deco Entertainment.
So you guys had sold out because this was like
April ninth of last year, when that stuff's been gone.
(21:51):
To give us an up there, there's going to be
more out there since fantas Plan.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Well, well yeah, I mean like the idea too, you know,
I mean, we didn't do massive numbers, but we did
respectable I mean, let's let's remember it's a ten inch
picture disc. Double side says, it's like very but I
wanted to make something there was I wanted it to
be collectable. I wanted to get even if you don't
have a record player, you can still you know, buy
(22:18):
this thing as a fan. And it's a really cool
thing just to have. And you know that be Pirate
Press that did the actual it exceeded my even remotest expectations,
just as far as the quality of the product and
Deco did. We established it with the black and white
and just did that direct on the bossonics dot com site,
(22:39):
and then Deco picked it, picked it up for like
you know distribution, I mean Amazon where everywhere, Walmart and
and all those were shipped out and then we did
it was funny because we did it. We did the
run of Red, and before all the red were even gone,
they were asking for more. So then we decided to
do a little bit of another run of blue. So
there's Red Blew and the two things, you know, along
(23:02):
with you know, keeping the quality up and just making
sure anything we do lives up to the standard like
Michael set with and without his band. I mean they
set a very high standard, so you can't do anything
to take away from that because ultimately the whole point
here is to remind the world of his greatness and hopefully,
you know, ship the narrative people thinking about how great
(23:25):
of a performer he was and a front man, and
because he was like you were saying earlier, he's really
super respected, you know, especially by other frontmen, and all
the press has been super positive and just everything around
it has been positive. So you know, we also got
a lot of you know, communicating with the fan base
(23:45):
because there's a really strong community, especially face book. You know.
Speaker 14 (23:49):
The thing is.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The people that admin the fan pages got I've.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Got along with a bunch of them, so a lot
of them.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Asking for a CD, which in twenty twenty four I
was like, wow, people still want CDs. We're gonna do
a Maxi single and it's got a It's pretty cool
because it's gonna have One Way and saved my life
on it. I've got a remix with uh these remixers
(24:18):
called Mason Boss who do like sort of these really
sort of like high energy, you know, electronica remixes. So
there's one of those in One Way.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Then there's an alternative version of One Way that Nick McKay,
the original guitar player from the Verb and I were.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Pretty friendly, and while I was sort of finished tracks,
I hooked up with Nick and I sent him one
way because I was there was something specific I asked
him to do and he did it. So we did
a Nick mckab at it where it's all Nick's guitar parts,
kind of the Verb.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
You're gonna dig that, and then you know, I did
another version.
Speaker 14 (24:53):
Just a sort of tightened up version of my table,
so it's got you know, it's it's there's a lot
on there and it's coming out a main man through MVD,
so it's going to be just like the similar to
the deck or release.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
It'll be everywhere. Everyone will be able to find it,
and it's The street date is April twenty fifth. But
one of the things I'm veryl to do or is
talk about a anything until it's like one hundred percent,
because that's been a long road and there's been a
couple of false starts back in the day, and now
that I'm sort of.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
At the helm, I've tried to make sure everything I do.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I say I'm gonna do as far as things coming
out happens. So you know, this is one hundred percent.
It's it's it's the it's in the works and it's
coming out through main Man m v D April twenty fifth.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I look forward to man, look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Maybe before I played one Way on Your Danny, I'll
tell you man, you know, we talked about this. Over
fifty million records worldwide, biggest selling Australian act ever out
there too, and man, just you know again, I still
play those like a playlist. We make those because the
music hit so many people in so many different ways.
You're talking about this, not just these songs were playing
(26:05):
here on the show today in your mind because you
know him very well, and I mean you talked to Michael,
you knew his passion, Like you said, he self funded this,
this whole thing, you know, in his career and things
like that. What made in Excess, you know, that band
that you could just turn on back in the eighties
and it was like great music to listen to. How
did they why did they jail so well?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
In your opinion, it's funny because in the process of
making Getting the Last Rockstar made, one of the things
that happened was that we the first director we got
traction with was Julian Temple and he did the Fuilt
and the Fury and he did a Joe Strummer uh,
you know, the Future is Unwritten. That's where I met
him because I.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Was in that.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I was really tight with Joe Strummer as well.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And he didn't end up directing the film board of
you know, pre before everything was on YouTube. So we
brought a researcher and we literally ended up with you know,
a hundred of DVDs. I can't even guess how many
hours of everything of in excess that's ever been anywhere,
you know, MTV Asia, just every sort of piece of
(27:11):
media you can imagine. So my job was to go
back through and really more to get rid of the
stuff that wasn't relevant. And I went back through and
it took like a month probably to watch everything. So
as I was doing that, it really really hit me
a bunch of things. To answer your question. One, how
good they.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Were, I mean just as a band, you know, like and.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It all starts with the songs, dude, I mean this,
you know, And I think what it's sort of a
double edged sword because they were the first and maybe
the best to really take dance beats and dance energy
but I mean they were as funky as hell, but
then they had that they were a rock band, right,
but everything was wrapped in dance music. So Michael's lyrics
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where he's singing about it, inter racial relationships, and his lyrics
were never just like throwaway sort of disposable garbage. He
was always singing about pretty heavy shit, but it never
really gets recognized because of the package it was wrapped
in sort of, so to speak. You know, So I
think what those are the keys a the songs him
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and Andrew were unbelievable songwriters, you know, those couple of things.
It just makes them They have their own sort of
like piece of musical real estate, so to.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Speak, and nobody's done it better since you know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
O man, that never tears apart and I mean need
you tonight, what you need, don't change, Suicide, Blonde, Devil Inside,
I mean disappear. These were all songs that really just
I mean world wide, like you said, fifty mini copies
sold and of course one of the greatest Australian acts,
if not the greatest ever. And I know there's a
lot of talent out there too, man, But to separate
themselves based on the body of working. Like you said,
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the catalog of songs, it is definitely inseparable out there.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
All right, we'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We got to play a little one way here, Danny,
So go ahead and take it away and introduce this
one for the crowd.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Cool. Yeah, we're gonna do the Are we playing the
original version of the or the Mason Boss Remix?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I think I got the Boss Remix?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
This is the Mason Boss Remix. So you guys can
get a little taste of what's coming on the CD
and uh, you know, put it on and do some spinning.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
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knows we get ready to close the show.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Man. I gotta say, dude, you're one of.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The best guests I've ever had, knowledgeable on music to
work with all these greats, not just Michael, but you
know you two and Madonna and all these great things. Man,
you know, it's crazy how the music business has changed
over the last you know, thirty forty years, and you know,
one of the reasons we go out there and take
the show on the road is to go to those
seminars to learn and educate in advance our career, you know,
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at radio, and of course get the latest happenings in
media out there too, and have all these conversations with
people about how the industry has changed too. Man, for you, you've
been doing this a long time as a producer. I
wanted to get your thoughts on just how much good
or bad streaming has changed the industry in your mind.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Wow, Well yeah, I mean for me, you know, personally.
And look, you never want to come off like the
old get them curmudgeon guy, but you know, I mean, hey,
it demonetized recordings, man. I mean, it's it's completely you know,
and it's interesting because we're in the process of developing
(33:59):
a new documentary around this stuff, and hopefully we'll get
it to across the line and get it made. But
big part of what I want to hopefully focus on
is parallels and because when Michael was you know, sort
of the things he was getting like crucified in the
nineties celebrity for artists or whatever you may want to
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call it, We're your worst nightmare. Empires are built off
of that now. And I think the whole what's held
up as the standard, and it's not just in music,
I mean in politics and everything has changed so much,
you know, and for good, bad or indifferent. You know.
I think it's like anything, you can see good in
it and you can see bad in it. But you know,
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as far as like just the music business itself, it
just seems it really feels like the the you know,
the pie. There's just a few big pieces of the
pie for a handful of people, and it's just.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Like squeezed a lot of people out of.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
The quote unquote mainstream, and it's really really a fight
just you know, survive. And then the problem for me is,
you know, and that's what I'm hoping, Michael. You know,
whatever attention we get helps to remind the world of
like what greatness really looks like. You know, not to
knock anybody else, but you know, there there, that's the
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whole standard what's held up.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I think a lot of that has to do with
the fact that you know, American idol came along and
Allen Shell paradigm is what kids have seen for the
last two generations. That's what's held up as what you'd
be striving for, which is completely different to you know,
the Rolling Stones and James Brown and Stevie Wonder and
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you know you two and even cold Play. I mean
with you like you keep mentioning Madonna. What's interesting is
my that's sort of my first break was Madonna launched
Maverick and I was in the first band that got
signed to Maverick, which was a big deal. Like our
signing was announced on MTV news and she was on
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our city Hall talking about I signed this band. And
you couldn't escape a Madonna or a Prince in those days,
whether you wanted to or not. There was sort of
this collective consciousness that everyone was tuned into. And now
we live in all these parallel universes and it's that.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Are massive that you may never have even heard.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Of, you know, because they've got their own sort of
little worlds that they all live in.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
And I think that's sort of the other thing that's
changed so much.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So it's hard to say. I mean, you know, I
think the bottom line is I was very close with
Jim Brown, the football player, and he you know, when
you're young and you see things from the rest, it's
like you're not able to really appreciate and gage like
it's ancient history. But he always used to say, greatness
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transcends eras, and it doesn't matter if and there's greatness
in this era, you know, if there's as much of it,
but it's there. But if you go back to the
past and look at all the all time greats, they
just they transcend time, you know. And I think that's
ultimately what matters. And that's that's what Michael does. You know,
he try it doesn't matter. You could look it out.
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He looked, he doesn't look dated. He's just like to
drop him right in right, he'd still be amazing, you know,
and he'd still rule the world. So I think that's
ultimately what matters. He's just trying to live up to
that and put some good music out and hopefully, yeah,
you know what it'll be, what it'll be, Man's.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
That's what a lot of it is.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Put that music out there and hopefully you're touching somebody
in the very positive way out there too. It's going
to reach somebody out there too and hopefully turn turn
their life around for all the crap they're going through
to out there on the everyday blue collar workers out
there too, and every day life. Let me ask you
about this. We'll finish with this one. It's a fantastic project.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think you guys hit the nail on the head
when he came down to it. I can't wait for
get a copy of this. Man, you'll have to send
me one too. If you don't want to love to
get a copy of this, I'm gonna I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Just sniffing around. I think there's gonna be a there's
a few might be able to do one more, a
little push and you know, up a few blues and
a few reds and do one more, sort of like
we got all the pieces in place, and because I
know there's still a lot of people out there that
want to get their hands on them.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
And again, I wanted to make sure too for the collectors.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I'm not gonna like pull the rug under that, because
the other great thing about this project was just the
people that are still passionate about music are really into it,
especially the vinyl community. I mean, there's an huge community
of collectors out.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
There, you know, so they know they got their heads
on one.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
They got it.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
We do anything, it's definitely different.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
But I can scratch a few more up and maybe
do one more push and get them, you know, because
I know there's some laying around somewhere.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
There's got to be Let me ask you about this.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I mentioned Madonna and of course everybody you've worked with
with you too, But I gotta ask you for the
for the fan out here in the listening audience. Any
good for what you can say out there's something you
probably can't. But working with the Stones, there's got to
be a good Rolling Stones like road story or some
kind of phone call that came through that was like,
you know what, this changed my life. It was kind
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of cool to hear this from them, kind of let
the cat out of the bag. Any good Rolling Stone stories.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Be cons there's a thousand of them. I try not
to well, not a thousand of them. But I was
very fortunate because and funny enough, the way I met
the Road, the way that whole thing went down, was
it all started with that first trip to London working
with Michael. And you know, it was like after the
first or second day in the studio and Michael, you know,
we have to do the whole rock star thing. We
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went out dinners and then night clubs and we went
to this place called Brown's in London and we're in
this you know, club and it's like very it's a
pretty intimate place, but it was like a bar really,
and there's you know, all these famous people there. Mick
and Ronnie would come walking in, you know, and I'm
like shitting myself because the closest I had ever been
to Mick Jagger my first concert was the Coliseum in
(40:05):
eighty one. I was two years old, no and famously
opening Rudolf say so I'm talking to Mick Jagger, you know,
and him and Michael are sort of talking.
Speaker 15 (40:15):
Mick had been doing a solo record and Michael was
raving about me to him, Oh, you got to hook
up with Danny, because Mick was sort of complaining about
he was having sort of a rough time on his
solo project.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
And that's how, you know, generous and gracious Michael was,
you know. But cut to the whole thing of going
through all of that, and I was lucky enough to
get I got, you know, I had a good relationship
with a lady named Nancy Barry, at Virgin Records and
she's like, Danny, you know you got to come out
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to opening night of Soldier Field. It was Soldier Field
opening night of the Bridges of Avalon tour. Now I
hadn't seen any of the band or anything into since
we had finished the record, which has probably been at
least six months. And Nancy said, just get to Chica
and stay will don't have for word about anything else.
So I show up at the venue the night before
it's opening night of the US tour of the Stones.
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I mean it was a big deal. They took the
whole city over right, So I don't know what how
was he doing here or what? You know? And I mean,
he's so good to see you. Da da da da da.
So Mick asked me, He's like, Daanny, how you getting
to the show tomorrow? And I'm like, I don't know.
He goes meet me at the service elevator at eleven
o'clock whatever it was, So I go and meet him.
I got to go down the service elevator and we
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got to the underneath the hotel and the whole staff
of the hotel was all lined up waiting to see them.
Under the ground. There was like a police escort, you know,
and I got to ride in the opening night of
the Stones US tour, you know, in the car with Mick.
I mean stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
It's just like I remember being in New York work
when some.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Prost was out. It was the same thing the Stones.
That record always reminds me of New York. Miss she
was on the radio NonStop and just they were like,
we were staying in this hotel on Central Park. You know,
I was a kid, I was eleven, and they knew this.
We knew the Stones were in the Plaza hotel. They
were like a few hotels down. Just the fact they
were in New York. And I remember Magic got out
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with the Rolling Stones, you know, and I got to
actually do that, you know. I got to hang out
with them in New York too. So I went on
the road of you know, a couple of cities and
hung out. And you know, it's just like they live
up to everything you could imagine about the Rolling Stones,
like being in their inner circle. They live up to
it and exceed it.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Like Keith.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
You know, it's like getting to be around Keith, you know.
But I think what's interesting is when they go into
a hotel they'll take that. They take over the two
top floors, right, So the second from the top is
the managers. It's like a buffer, and then the top
floors is.
Speaker 16 (42:46):
You know, Kee's in a room, Mixed in a room,
Ronnie's in a room, and each room has its own
culture to it, you know, like Pirate Ship. It's all dudes,
and it's like listening to Barry and ACDC, and you know,
Ronnie's more a fane at least on that tour, you know,
and then Nick kind of has his thing going on.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It was amazing, man. You know, I can't say enough.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
It's just to give them something back creatively after.
Speaker 16 (43:11):
Everything I got from them was just it's it's just
one of those things you can't even really it almost
sounds like I don't even tell people.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
About it because it sounds so stupid, you know, like
I'm lying.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Nobody believes you.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
That's you know, good stories right here too. Love this
project with Michael Hutches. Like I said, yo know, those
songs to make people feel something out there too. We
got to play a couple here on the show today
too as well. And looking forward to that date April
twenty fifth, remind people about April twenty fifth again and
just this cool project for one way, man, I love
this And of course you mentioned that CD and everything
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else remind people about April twenty fifth.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Will we close?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, So so through main Man Records MVD distributors were
dropping a MAXI single with a you know remixes well
the original versions in one way and saved my life
said boss remakes a cool Nick McKay kind of guitar
player from the verb amazing guitar player urban M's. I
know that would have made Michael really happy because they
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were actually in the studio when we were in the
studio at Real World doing record at the same time,
So I know that would have really pleased him that
Nick's on the record. And yeah, April twenty fifth is
going to be everywhere, so keep an eye out for that,
you know, and there's gonna be more to come.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Just you know, the wheels are in motion and when
something's you.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Know, solid, you'll be first to know. My basics. But
I appreciate you bringing me on.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Oh dude, hey man, my playsure are having you too
as well. Man, And like I said, you know, it's
always cool to promote, you know, stuff like this, man,
when it comes to like legendary stuff with a legendary
rock group who were icons in the industry, and like
I said, I'll say that again over fifteen million albums
sold worldwide. That does not happen by accident. If your
stuff is good, people are gonna flock to it. And
when they do, man, like I said, it becomes projects,
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and those projects really bring it to life. Danny Saber
out there, make sure you check his work out out
there across all the digital streaming platforms, and of course
look for that out with those two songs One Way
and Saved My Life. April twenty fifth, Danny, appreciate the
time here on the show. Thanks for dropping us a
fine dues for swinging from me and telling us all
about this great project.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
And dude, if I can ever do anything to promote
the work man, I'm here on the Sports Guys podcast
dot com and of course KKTC True Country ninety nine
point nine. Appreciate your time, and hey man, continue success
going forward. Man for somebody's legendaries you we appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Thanks, my man, I appreciate it. Right back at you
got it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Danny Saber here on the Backstage Past, of course, Brandley
Gilbert coming up here in a few weeks, and the
Warren Treaty coming up here on KKTC True Country ninety
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New Mexico, and our market out there too. Thanks to
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(45:50):
Saber as well and Greer, renowned producer who's worked with
some of the biggest icons in the industry. And of
course Michael, we love your brother. I'm sure in heaven
you can tell on this project. Two great songs you
we got the feature here on KKTC True Country ninety
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Stay tuned right there in Tauas, New Mexico.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
See you soon.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
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