December 8, 2025 • 39 mins
You know The Cranberries’ anthems, but do you know the secret ingredient that gave them their distinctive pulse? It wasn’t just the unforgettable melodies or the haunting vocals. Today, we’re pulling back the curtain to reveal how Fergal Lawler’s drumming wasn’t just accompaniment, but a transformative force that defined an era of music.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, this is fergol Lauler from the Cranberries and you're
listening to the Grand Slam of music, sports and entertainment.
It's the award nominated Backstage Pass podcast with Brandon Morrell
on KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome inside the Backstage Pass of course. Busy day
full of shows, a lot of shows leading up to
the holiday season. Happy Holidays to everybody out there. KYBN
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our sponsors do out there too. At the same time,
and it's good to go back and re live a
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little bit of nineties music.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're doing that too with the Fergo Lawler here on
the Backstage Pass, the drummer, and of course outstanding member
for the Cranberrys, Ergo. How you doing, my friend, Grace, Yeah,
really good, Thank you. Good to see you man too.
What tell you what you guys have been busy. I
know recently a lot of things have come out, and
of course the band is still on fire, still out
there kicking. Kind of tell us about as we close
(01:08):
twenty twenty five we get ready for a new year
out there too. Of course, I know that recently the
Rolling Stone Awards in the UK took place out there too,
which was fantastic. What were you most excited about here
for twenty twenty five for the Cranberry's moving into next year.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, it was great to get the MTV and plugged
out finally. So we've been talking about that for a
long time and there was just it was just one
of those things that we were asking about and asking about,
and because the rights were owned by MTV, we had
to go to a wrec company and ask them could
they secure the rights from MTV and you know, to
(01:45):
allow us to release it so that once that was
done then it wasn't a problem. We just kind of
put everything together and you know, figured out the packaging
in that and it was great to also get the
thirtith University not need to argue about this year because
that's such a classic album. Jesus, it sounds amazing I
(02:05):
couldn't believe it. I went over to the studio when
Steven remixed to Stephen Street, and the two of us
just sat down listening to it through from start to finish,
and we kind of looked at each other and went,
you know, it hasn't aged. It still sounds relevant today.
I think it's just everyone was really firing in all
the cylinders for that album, and it was just everyone
(02:27):
was in the pocket and in a really good place
and creatively just on fire. Really. It was fantastic. So yeah,
I was pleasantly surprised to hear how good it sounded.
And then as you as you mentioned they're the Rolling
Store Award was that was another surprise. That was only
(02:48):
a few weeks back we first heard about that. I
was like, oh, wow, that's a really great honor. You know,
it's like we're icons. So yeah, I don't know. I
don't feel old enough to be and icon.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I reasonly had a blues singer on Bobby Rush. He
turned ninety two years old recently too, and he's still
out there performing on his tour too. He had Kenny
Wayne Shephard on too as well, did some blues promotions
for some of their concert and he goes you only
you're only as old as you feel.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
After Dlaw has passed away, we kind of said, no,
that's the end of it. You know, it's not the
Cranberies out true Delors especially, but without any member of
the band there, it's just not the same. So yeah,
we uh, you know, we kind of said, okay, that's
the end of the Cranberies as we know, you know,
and and you know, let the songs live on and
(03:36):
her legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, what's that feeling line the performances that you had
done for so many years and for different countries and
here in the state side and of course over there overseas.
The memories you guys will take with you for as
her memory lives on, and remembering those times that the
fans were able to, you know, buy the tickets and
come out and sing the tunes back to you guys,
And I'm sure you have a lot of great memories there.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right, incredible, Yeah, absolutely, just so many memories. I mean,
we toured it an awful lot, especially in the States
because that's where we first broke you know, Linger took
off in the States in the early nineties, and we
just toured and toured and toured for I remember the
very first tour we did. We did three months, came
(04:20):
home for two weeks, and went back for three months
and did every single state pretty much, playing clubs and
then theaters and opening up for other artists and just
playing all the time. Because when you're like twenty two,
twenty three, you can do that. You're you know, you
can go five or six shows in a row and
then take a day off and then go again for
five or six shows, you know. But yeah, just some
(04:43):
incredible memories.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Absolutely obviously remember Dolora's No Doubt too, and definitely, I
mean still not a day goes by where I don't
think about that every day.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And grew up on your music.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Like I said, I'm in my forties now, so I
look back and I was like, you know what, it
was a part of my nineties childhood. That and just
great bands and great country music there too, and of
course great rock alternative music. But when you look back,
of course, when you got the word that the tragedy
had just took place, talk about just the memories and
you know just how much she meant to the group
and just her her vocals were amazing out there She
(05:14):
didn't sound like any other artist out there.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She was Dolores.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
She was unique. Yeah, yeah, and I always kind of
treated her like a little sister, you know, because we
grew up together. Really, you know, we met when we
were well, Dolores would have been like eighteen, the lads
would have been eighteen seventeen, and I was a little
bit older, like a year old or whatever. So we
grew up together, and you know, spent thirty years traveling
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the world, having a big adventure and going through ups
and downs together, you know. And yeah, it's it's a
huge loss, and it's something I think you will never
for me anyway. I won't really get over it as such.
You know, it's one of those things you learned to
live with, like losing a parent or another family member.
(06:04):
It's the same thing, you know. And yeah, it's just
one of those things. It's life. There's nothing you can
do about it, and you just have to accept reality
and just remember the good times. That's actually what happened
after I found out that she'd passed away. It was
just all these memories from those early days. I've tourn
around in the back of a van, just heading off
(06:27):
on an adventure you know as teenagers, and all those
memories are the ones that kind of came to the fore.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And those vocals especially, like all the songs with no
no doubt about it. Just the catalog of songs fantastic,
But when you bring out one like Zombie and the
one that she made it really come to life, both
in the studio and the production of it. And of
course looking back and you look at a song like
that worldwide, how how big that was and the fact
that she made it come to live on stage, I
can't really recall. Many artists have done it, no doubt
(06:56):
about it, but Laura's had something special about when she
sang that song, did you you guys know in the
beginning that was going to be a special hit for
you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, the very first day she came in, we were
in a small shed. It was a shed like a
like a garden shed converted into a studio at the
back of a friend of ours house just outside Limock
where we used to rehearse, and it was tiny, and
she came in and normally you'd have to kind of
be quiet in there because it was so small that
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if you played hard, it was like deafening, so she
came in and said, I have this idea for a song.
The chorus needs to be really angry and powerful. Have
you any distortion pedals and you know when the chorus
comes in now for you really hit the drums. And
I'm like, well, are you sure you know, because I'm
normally be a bit more tame or whatever. But she
(07:46):
started playing and then kicked in the distortion pedal for
the chorus and she was singing her lungs out and yeah,
we got the gist of where she wanted to go
with it straight away, and just we all added in
our own bits and then started playing the song live
very soon after, I think, like even a year and
a half before we were recorded. As we were playing
(08:06):
it live and the reaction from the crowd was incredible,
even though it was a song they hadn't heard before.
They were singing back the chorus the second time around,
and we kind of knew then. I think then we
knew something special.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
We'll have something special for the listeners right now to
take you back to the nineties. At the same time,
the song he was talking about there for a Virgo
Lawler here on the backstage pass Linger here it is
on the backstage pass the Cranberry's ky b in ninety
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it up.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
If you could return, don't let it burn.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Don't let him bad.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm sure I am here, but it's just your attitude.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It's a part.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
He's ruining everything.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Score a new and honey is sod. So why you
holy her hand?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Is that the way it did?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
We annoying all the time was a jesting game.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
To you many So you know what's avery? You got
you after out your being here? Do you have to
let any linger?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Do you have to do?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
You have to do?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You have to let anything?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Why all the world I got nothing to go on.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
But hour was drown.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I'll drown.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
If you could get fine trying not a lot take
this world and be so confused, and I wouldn't fisy.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But do you always really new?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I just wanted me maybisode.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know to.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Break?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
You got me around you around your very day?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Do you have to let it linger?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Do you have to do?
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You act?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You do a young.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know what to j boot b.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
You got me rabber out your being?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Do you have to let it linger?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Do you have to do you have to do?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
You have to let it linger?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know what's to boot breath?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You got me rubber out your being? Do you have
to let it linger?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
How do do you?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
How do do you?
Speaker 8 (13:03):
How do it?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
And welcome back to the show again.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Ergo Lawler joining us here KYBN ninety eight point one,
your Bay Area Broadcasting network kind enough to join us here.
Relial sometimes with the Cranberries, And of course you mentioned
how big Zombie was, and you talked about this song
getting massive in the States too. I didn't want to
talk about this one with the Royal Otis's cover of
it was massive, and I know he performed that with
(15:50):
Noel Hogan at the Rolling Stone Awards in the UK. Fantastic.
I love this song and Linger just had to be
another special one in the catalog, right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that was the very first we ever wrote together.
We had been, you know, rehearsing just instrumentally because we
had a singer for a while, a male singer, and
then he left and there's just myself, Noel and Mike
just playing instrumental music on the lookout for a singer
(16:21):
and kind of just kept going to rehearsals just to
just to keep keep something going, you know. And then
Dolores came into this rehearsal room one day and we
played some music we had and Linger was kind of
one of the ideas we had, and she played some
some songs that she had. She set up at a
keyboard and started playing and singing, and then and we
(16:45):
gave her tape with the music for Lingering. She came
back like four or five days later with with the
lyrics and the melody and that that string line, the
keyboard line, and it was just like, oh, okay, this
is going to work. You know. We just knew straight
away then we'd found the right person.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, when you look back at another song too,
the dreams I have to ask you about this one.
Love it so much. It just again, those catalogs go
on and on with these hits too. What do you
remember best about Dreams and of course lyrically what it
meant to the fans?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, Dreams just such an uplifting song. It was kind
of one of those I think we all of us
played it last last song of the night on a
live you know show or whatever, because it's just so
uplifting and people are kind of popping around and singing,
and you know, it's a nice one to finish on
and everyone goes out, goes home after the concert and
(17:38):
they're singing along and they're, you know, really upbeat.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I suppose that's the beautiful thing about it too.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Love it last record I want to talk to you
about too, because I love really listening to this when
it came out in the end, which was a great
track all over Now which kicked that one off to
wake me up when it's over a lot of great
songs on there too, and there's something for everybody on
that record. As we talk about memories and kind of
reliving those old songs, you know, record toos. Well, these
are kind of the newer ones that are fresh in
(18:05):
everybody's mind too. But this was another fantastic project you
guys did in the end, the record, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That was that was to be honest, it was the
toughest thing, one of the toughest things I've ever done
in my life, I think, because you know, it wasn't
that long after the lawyers had passed away, and Steven said,
you know, it's best to get into the studio now
while the emotions are still raw and you're you're all
still grieving, because you can put that emotion into the record,
because if you kind of hold back and say we'll
(18:34):
do it in a year or two, that that might
never happen, you know. And he was right, because you know,
it would have been hard to kind of revisit it
a couple of years later, you know. As difficult as
it was to do the record, I'm glad we did,
and I think the drawers would have been very proud
of it because those songs, you know, once I heard
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the demos, I was kind of reminded of the earlier
songs we had done. They had that kind of feeling
there was an innocence to them or something. Yeah, you know,
I'm really proud of that record as difficult as it
was to make it still sounds great.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Let me ask you this, if she were here today,
and of course again God rest her soul, love her
so much, just what she meant to the band too.
But if she were here today, what do you think
she would say to the younger generation now, knowing how
tough this business is to make it no matter what
genre of music you're doing out there, there's some keys
to or advice for young artists today who are getting
in it now compared to what you guys got it
(19:32):
back into the nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think it's the most important thing is to
be true to yourself. And that was something that lawyers
always believed in, you know, not to copy other people
and you know, jump on a trend because a lot
of the time in her career, especially early on in
her career, you know, a lot of industry people would
(19:56):
have said, you know, this is what's happening now, it's
kind of more densey element. Don't you try that? And
we were like, this is not really us. This is
what we're doing. We want to do it our way,
you know, and we kind of stuck to our guns
and believed in what we were doing and didn't fall
into a trend, because what happens with the trend is
you become part of this scene and then when that
(20:16):
trend is over, people move on and you were forgotten about,
you know, And you know, we kind of didn't want
to get stuck in a certain pigeonholing a certain genre
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
When do you think back to out to my family,
what comes to mind? Memories and performances on that one too.
That's another one of my favorite ones to listen to.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I remember the first time we started playing it
at sound check. It was in Boston and I think
it was the Orpheum Theater because I have some family
in Boston, and I went out to meet them for
lunch and came back and we were doing soundcheck, and
I remember, no I started playing the cards and the
(21:02):
laws started singing. I was like, oh, this sounds nice,
this is different. So we started jamming. We did a
lot that a lot at sound check, you know, started
jamminging ideas and then would record them and listen back
to them and kind of go, oh, yeah that could
work or whatever, and yeah, it's just I think because
we had been on tour for a while, Dloris was
(21:24):
missing home and missing her family, and that's that's kind
of what triggered that song.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I think y'all I did a lot of great music
videos in your career too.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
That was actually one of my favorites. Two The Ode
of My Family.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
When you think back to music videos and how that's
just a great trend to have to make the song
really come alive and the team you hire to put
that together too, to be able to go out there
and shoot it, choosing location and a setting and another
way to tell a story through a song and through
a music video. What was your favorite one to kind
of go out through a favorite top two or three
songs to shoot music videos for?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, those ones with Sam Beert were great, Owe to
my Family and the Zombie he did, and then Olivia
Dehan he was a French guy who did a Salvation
and This is the Day a few others he was
great as well. It's tough. It's tough doing videos because
(22:17):
you know, musicians aren't visual artists as such, so you're
kind of putting it. You're putting your song in somebody
else's hands and hoping that they'll do a good job,
and you can kind of throw some ideas in there.
But at the end of the day, the director is
the guy with the vision, and if his vision doesn't
match yours, it can be a bit awkward. So I
(22:40):
was never a huge fan. It's very boring to do
videos as a musician because there's a lot of waiting
around all day and then you know, okay, you're on
now for like, you know, play the song three or
four times in a row, and then that's it. You're done.
But yeah, it was the thing the Loures was into,
and she kind of made sure that the director kind
(23:03):
of understood where she was coming from, and we would
have a good chat with them and kind of explain
what song was about or whatever, and try and do
her best to kind of make sure that the director
got the right picture of what the song was about.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Definitely, truth to be told, they're no doubt about it
getting the picture of what that song's all about too.
And I tell you what, We're gonna play some more
music here fergol Lawler here on the backstage pass. We're
living some Cranberry days out there too. You can again
stream those songs across all the DSPs out there. Yesterday's gone,
and I believe this has never appeared on any release,
and so this is we get a little exclusive here,
we get to play for which is great. Here it
(23:42):
is on the backstage pass coming back to talk about
it here more with fergol Here again KYBN ninety eight
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Speaker 4 (23:52):
Stay tuned, And this.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is also a new song, So here we go. This
one's called Yesterday. Yesterday's gone.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
To her shame?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I heard she miscarried.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
And you.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Sch did.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
From the world?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Who cock saved your chod? Yesterday's dome? There's no returned?
And she cried on, did you from the world you
(25:13):
conceived your child? Yesterday's done. There's no return, and she.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Crieds on.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
That hormon.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Spade?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I joy? Will you return to the wall.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Who concede jo job?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yesterday's done, There's no return.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
She cries, will your returned to the wall who concede
jo shot? Yesterday's done. There's no return, and she cries on,
(26:50):
did you run from the wall who concede yon shot?
Yesterday done? Here's the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Sheep? Bye, thank you?
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Speaker 2 (29:01):
And back you're on the show. Fergo Lawler here on
the backstage pass. We live in the old Cranberry days
out there too, and of course talking about some great
music out there and some of those vivid memories that
come to mind. Yesterday's Gone, which has never appeared on
any release, and of course, if you guys are actually
watching the website, you can actually see the YouTube video
out there too, which is the only performance of that
song at the Sports Guys podcast dot Com talk about
(29:23):
this one too and never appeared on any release.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I love this song.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, I know, it's crazy. It's just one of those
ones that fell between the cracks because it was written
like a week or so before MTV unplugged, and we
would do that a lot, you know, when there's new
songs like let's play this one in the set tonight
or whatever, you know, And because it was new and fresh,
I think we decided to throw it into the set
(29:49):
for MTV and plugged and it just sounded really great
and it was a beautiful side. I don't understand why
we never recorded it, and I don't think we ever
played it live after that that MTV session either, which
is weird because you know, it's a beautiful song and
it's just one of the ones that I don't know,
maybe it's just meant to be that special oneself.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I appreciate you let us play it here on
the backstage pass. I loved another record that came out there,
Something Else, which was another just creative vibe out there,
you guys putting your heads together to I love the
songwriting aspect of this. You took some of the old hits,
you made some acoustic versions out of those songs, which
was another fantastic idea too. And a lot of cool
things happened with this record because Something Else was kind
(30:35):
of that title.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
It was Something Else, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was one of those ones we
just wanted to do something different, and you know, we
hadn't released the MTV and Plugged hadn't been released on
record or anything like that. So we had always done
acoustic versions of songs since the very beginning, like at
radio stations or in record stores and that, and it's
(31:00):
just it's a different perspective on the songs, I think
because they're they're so intimate, and it really led to
Lauris's vocals shine. I think, so we wanted to do
something like that. So that's where the idea for something
else came.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Another great song in the catalog animal instinct.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think we all have a little bit of that
inside of us too as human being.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, I think that that that was a song that
that that Delors wrote the lyrics for after I think
the lyrics were inspired by the fact that she had
her first child, you know, and she really felt that
that that animal instinct as a mother, you know. And
I think that's where where that came from. And that
(31:46):
was a nice video. Actually, we did a video for
that out just outside Toronto and the countryside and it
was really just really sweet. It's kind of a sweet song.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Take me to School bit you mentioned. So I'm writing
a lot too, because that's the key for a lot
of artists today. I'm noticing, is you mean you put
out one great song and that's it. Boom, It's just
I mean billboard And I love it because, you know,
she had a unique style, speaking of Dolors to write
these songs and deliver this and get with Noel like
you said, in the band and really come up with
these ideas what was her process or did she even
(32:19):
have a process of songwriting.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She would work away at home with either piano or guitar,
and then she would come into rehearsal and start playing
the chords or whatever and then humming bits because she
usually she didn't have all the lyrics finished at that point,
so she'd start playing the cards, humming the vocal melody
(32:45):
and a few lyrics, and then we'd listen and kind
of go, you know, get a feel for it, and
then start adding her own bits. And then other times
Noel would come up with chords and guitar and send
her a tape with them, and then we'd all get
together in the rehearsal room and start playing and just
(33:06):
getting a feeling. And it was very natural. No one
kind of said you don't play this, try this here,
you know. It was everyone's kind of trusted each other
and you do your bit, I'll do my bit, and
we'll see what happens. And it was almost without talking.
You could kind of feel what way the song should
lean left or right, or you know, should it rise
(33:28):
here or should it kind of soften a bit there.
It was it was a very natural thing, and that
was one of the the best parts have been in
the band, I think was that creating just the four
of us in a room, no one else involved. Just
that magic that was there when when the four of
us played together, it was something special.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Really magic happens in the studio, no doubt about it too.
When people are meant to work together, they're meant to
work together too. And I love that because you guys
have done this for so long and talk about that,
because it seems like there was a lot of great
camaraderie in the band. You guys were not just you know,
performing on stage. You would go out and I talked
to a lot of bands here that do that, you know,
whether it's eating on the road and spending time together
because you're like a family, Like you said, you spend
(34:08):
a lot of time together, travel all that kind of
stuff too. So that camaraderie and that cohesiveness had to
be there, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, definitely, I mean I think yeah, when the fame
kicked in after the second album, really, I suppose is
where it really started to ramp up. We were a
bit overwhelmed by it, I think, and it just brought
us closer together and kind of, you know, we went
off on tour and stayed in our little bubble almost,
And yeah, I think because we were all going through
(34:37):
that together, it just did bring us that bit closer again,
you know, is it a different thing with something another
experience to go through.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Another great track off of There Too. I loved it
was the one that got you guys out there too,
free to decide. I'd love the title of it just
because it was fantastic too. And I think that's a
lot of That's a song that people need to hear
because there's a lot of life stories built into one,
like to decide.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, it is one of those uplifting songs, isn't it?
And it was always when we played it live, it
was always one you know when the chorus kicked in
that you could feel the whole place rising up. You know,
you have that positive energy, and it was always a yeah,
there was always a positivity in that song.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Let me ask you this kind of more than lighthoarded
note that the holidays are coming up for a lot
of people, so much can only happen for me, And
then you got to take time like it's all I
told my kid, I said, we're going to put up lights.
We can finally get down the Christmas tree. What are
you most looking forward to with the family for this
coming holiday season.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well, my kids are a bit older, so we've gone
past the Santa Claus gifting stage. But there's two of
them away in college, so they're going to be coming
back for Christmas. So that's the first time that's happened.
So that's going to be really sweet. And we've been
decorating the house, putting up the Christmas tree, and the
(35:58):
lights are up and all that and everything is ready.
But I love to cook, so I'm looking forward to
just putting on some nice Christmas tunes and cooking lots
of meals.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
What's on the menu this Christmas Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Will be it's a beef Wellington. I normally do because
the lads like turkey, but they're not mad about turkey,
so you know, I usually do turkey legs on steak
the following day, Steven's Day. But yeah, beef Wellington.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, look at that sounds like a good meal to me,
no doubt about it. Love that too.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Looking back as far as that food category you mentioned
cooking out there, what other hobbies, whether it be I
know a lot of people say fitness or going for
walks or hikes or things out there too.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What do you like to get into hobby wise.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, I still go to the gym. I'm fifty four,
so I need to kind of watch my blood pressure
and all that. So I do go to the gym
and try and keep fit, but like three times a week.
Nothing over the top or anything. But I love Formerly One.
Been into Formula one since Jesus the eighties. I used
to watch it with my dad and this weekend is
(37:05):
the Family One Grand Finale.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Look be good there too. Hey, I'm forty six. I'm
getting scared now approaching fifty. Any tips for me as
I get to the fifty mark.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's the thing I think, before you hit the age,
you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna be fifty blah
blah blah. But then actually when it happens, it's like, oh,
I still feel the same. I still feel the same
as I did, like in my thirties. So you know,
I don't as as you said earlier, It's all about
how you feel mentally and physically, you know. And you know,
(37:39):
I don't worry about it too much about age.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just one number that keeps moving on. We can't reverse anything,
and she's got to keep attaching numbers too. And it solely,
I guess, as old as you feel when it comes
down to it. Mentally, I'm like you. I did go
to the gym a lot, so it does keep me
mentally a saying there too. And of course I love it.
You can release those endorphins, get it out of there,
and yeah, you're right, I gotta watch the blood pressures.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
We get older there too.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
At the same time, too well, I tell you what,
love the music, he congratulations and all the success. The
music will live on for a lifetime, no doubt about
it continues on for a lot of great fans, including
the newer generation out there. Fergo Lawler of the Cranberry's
out there too, here on the backstage past Fergo appreciate
the time, looking forward to any more great memories down
the road. God bless you guys, and a happy holiday season.
We appreciate it you two, Thank you very much. One
(38:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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little bit of nineties music.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're doing that too with the Fergo Lawler here on
the Backstage Pass, the drummer, and of course outstanding member
for the Cranberrys, Ergo. How you doing, my friend, Grace, Yeah,
really good, Thank you. Good to see you man too.
What tell you what you guys have been busy. I
know recently a lot of things have come out, and
of course the band is still on fire, still out
there kicking. Kind of tell us about as we close
(01:08):
twenty twenty five we get ready for a new year
out there too. Of course, I know that recently the
Rolling Stone Awards in the UK took place out there too,
which was fantastic. What were you most excited about here
for twenty twenty five for the Cranberry's moving into next year.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, it was great to get the MTV and plugged
out finally. So we've been talking about that for a
long time and there was just it was just one
of those things that we were asking about and asking about,
and because the rights were owned by MTV, we had
to go to a wrec company and ask them could
they secure the rights from MTV and you know, to
(01:45):
allow us to release it so that once that was
done then it wasn't a problem. We just kind of
put everything together and you know, figured out the packaging
in that and it was great to also get the
thirtith University not need to argue about this year because
that's such a classic album. Jesus, it sounds amazing I
(02:05):
couldn't believe it. I went over to the studio when
Steven remixed to Stephen Street, and the two of us
just sat down listening to it through from start to finish,
and we kind of looked at each other and went,
you know, it hasn't aged. It still sounds relevant today.
I think it's just everyone was really firing in all
the cylinders for that album, and it was just everyone
(02:27):
was in the pocket and in a really good place
and creatively just on fire. Really. It was fantastic. So yeah,
I was pleasantly surprised to hear how good it sounded.
And then as you as you mentioned they're the Rolling
Store Award was that was another surprise. That was only
(02:48):
a few weeks back we first heard about that. I
was like, oh, wow, that's a really great honor. You know,
it's like we're icons. So yeah, I don't know. I
don't feel old enough to be and icon.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I reasonly had a blues singer on Bobby Rush. He
turned ninety two years old recently too, and he's still
out there performing on his tour too. He had Kenny
Wayne Shephard on too as well, did some blues promotions
for some of their concert and he goes you only
you're only as old as you feel.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
After Dlaw has passed away, we kind of said, no,
that's the end of it. You know, it's not the
Cranberies out true Delors especially, but without any member of
the band there, it's just not the same. So yeah,
we uh, you know, we kind of said, okay, that's
the end of the Cranberies as we know, you know,
and and you know, let the songs live on and
(03:36):
her legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, what's that feeling line the performances that you had
done for so many years and for different countries and
here in the state side and of course over there overseas.
The memories you guys will take with you for as
her memory lives on, and remembering those times that the
fans were able to, you know, buy the tickets and
come out and sing the tunes back to you guys,
And I'm sure you have a lot of great memories there.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right, incredible, Yeah, absolutely, just so many memories. I mean,
we toured it an awful lot, especially in the States
because that's where we first broke you know, Linger took
off in the States in the early nineties, and we
just toured and toured and toured for I remember the
very first tour we did. We did three months, came
(04:20):
home for two weeks, and went back for three months
and did every single state pretty much, playing clubs and
then theaters and opening up for other artists and just
playing all the time. Because when you're like twenty two,
twenty three, you can do that. You're you know, you
can go five or six shows in a row and
then take a day off and then go again for
five or six shows, you know. But yeah, just some
(04:43):
incredible memories.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Absolutely obviously remember Dolora's No Doubt too, and definitely, I
mean still not a day goes by where I don't
think about that every day.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And grew up on your music.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Like I said, I'm in my forties now, so I
look back and I was like, you know what, it
was a part of my nineties childhood. That and just
great bands and great country music there too, and of
course great rock alternative music. But when you look back,
of course, when you got the word that the tragedy
had just took place, talk about just the memories and
you know just how much she meant to the group
and just her her vocals were amazing out there She
(05:14):
didn't sound like any other artist out there.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She was Dolores.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
She was unique. Yeah, yeah, and I always kind of
treated her like a little sister, you know, because we
grew up together. Really, you know, we met when we
were well, Dolores would have been like eighteen, the lads
would have been eighteen seventeen, and I was a little
bit older, like a year old or whatever. So we
grew up together, and you know, spent thirty years traveling
(05:42):
the world, having a big adventure and going through ups
and downs together, you know. And yeah, it's it's a
huge loss, and it's something I think you will never
for me anyway. I won't really get over it as such.
You know, it's one of those things you learned to
live with, like losing a parent or another family member.
(06:04):
It's the same thing, you know. And yeah, it's just
one of those things. It's life. There's nothing you can
do about it, and you just have to accept reality
and just remember the good times. That's actually what happened
after I found out that she'd passed away. It was
just all these memories from those early days. I've tourn
around in the back of a van, just heading off
(06:27):
on an adventure you know as teenagers, and all those
memories are the ones that kind of came to the fore.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And those vocals especially, like all the songs with no
no doubt about it. Just the catalog of songs fantastic,
But when you bring out one like Zombie and the
one that she made it really come to life, both
in the studio and the production of it. And of
course looking back and you look at a song like
that worldwide, how how big that was and the fact
that she made it come to live on stage, I
can't really recall. Many artists have done it, no doubt
(06:56):
about it, but Laura's had something special about when she
sang that song, did you you guys know in the
beginning that was going to be a special hit for
you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, the very first day she came in, we were
in a small shed. It was a shed like a
like a garden shed converted into a studio at the
back of a friend of ours house just outside Limock
where we used to rehearse, and it was tiny, and
she came in and normally you'd have to kind of
be quiet in there because it was so small that
(07:24):
if you played hard, it was like deafening, so she
came in and said, I have this idea for a song.
The chorus needs to be really angry and powerful. Have
you any distortion pedals and you know when the chorus
comes in now for you really hit the drums. And
I'm like, well, are you sure you know, because I'm
normally be a bit more tame or whatever. But she
(07:46):
started playing and then kicked in the distortion pedal for
the chorus and she was singing her lungs out and yeah,
we got the gist of where she wanted to go
with it straight away, and just we all added in
our own bits and then started playing the song live
very soon after, I think, like even a year and
a half before we were recorded. As we were playing
(08:06):
it live and the reaction from the crowd was incredible,
even though it was a song they hadn't heard before.
They were singing back the chorus the second time around,
and we kind of knew then. I think then we
knew something special.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
We'll have something special for the listeners right now to
take you back to the nineties. At the same time,
the song he was talking about there for a Virgo
Lawler here on the backstage pass Linger here it is
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it up.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
If you could return, don't let it burn.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Don't let him bad.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm sure I am here, but it's just your attitude.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It's a part.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
He's ruining everything.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Score a new and honey is sod. So why you
holy her hand?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Is that the way it did?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
We annoying all the time was a jesting game.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
To you many So you know what's avery? You got
you after out your being here? Do you have to
let any linger?
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Do you have to do?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
You have to do?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You have to let anything?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Why all the world I got nothing to go on.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
But hour was drown.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I'll drown.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
If you could get fine trying not a lot take
this world and be so confused, and I wouldn't fisy.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But do you always really new?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I just wanted me maybisode.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know to.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Break?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
You got me around you around your very day?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Do you have to let it linger?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Do you have to do?
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You act?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You do a young.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know what to j boot b.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
You got me rabber out your being?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Do you have to let it linger?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Do you have to do you have to do?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
You have to let it linger?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know what's to boot breath?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You got me rubber out your being? Do you have
to let it linger?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
How do do you?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
How do do you?
Speaker 8 (13:03):
How do it?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
And welcome back to the show again.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Ergo Lawler joining us here KYBN ninety eight point one,
your Bay Area Broadcasting network kind enough to join us here.
Relial sometimes with the Cranberries, And of course you mentioned
how big Zombie was, and you talked about this song
getting massive in the States too. I didn't want to
talk about this one with the Royal Otis's cover of
it was massive, and I know he performed that with
(15:50):
Noel Hogan at the Rolling Stone Awards in the UK. Fantastic.
I love this song and Linger just had to be
another special one in the catalog, right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that was the very first we ever wrote together.
We had been, you know, rehearsing just instrumentally because we
had a singer for a while, a male singer, and
then he left and there's just myself, Noel and Mike
just playing instrumental music on the lookout for a singer
(16:21):
and kind of just kept going to rehearsals just to
just to keep keep something going, you know. And then
Dolores came into this rehearsal room one day and we
played some music we had and Linger was kind of
one of the ideas we had, and she played some
some songs that she had. She set up at a
keyboard and started playing and singing, and then and we
(16:45):
gave her tape with the music for Lingering. She came
back like four or five days later with with the
lyrics and the melody and that that string line, the
keyboard line, and it was just like, oh, okay, this
is going to work. You know. We just knew straight
away then we'd found the right person.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, when you look back at another song too,
the dreams I have to ask you about this one.
Love it so much. It just again, those catalogs go
on and on with these hits too. What do you
remember best about Dreams and of course lyrically what it
meant to the fans?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, Dreams just such an uplifting song. It was kind
of one of those I think we all of us
played it last last song of the night on a
live you know show or whatever, because it's just so
uplifting and people are kind of popping around and singing,
and you know, it's a nice one to finish on
and everyone goes out, goes home after the concert and
(17:38):
they're singing along and they're, you know, really upbeat.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I suppose that's the beautiful thing about it too.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Love it last record I want to talk to you
about too, because I love really listening to this when
it came out in the end, which was a great
track all over Now which kicked that one off to
wake me up when it's over a lot of great
songs on there too, and there's something for everybody on
that record. As we talk about memories and kind of
reliving those old songs, you know, record toos. Well, these
are kind of the newer ones that are fresh in
(18:05):
everybody's mind too. But this was another fantastic project you
guys did in the end, the record, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That was that was to be honest, it was the
toughest thing, one of the toughest things I've ever done
in my life, I think, because you know, it wasn't
that long after the lawyers had passed away, and Steven said,
you know, it's best to get into the studio now
while the emotions are still raw and you're you're all
still grieving, because you can put that emotion into the record,
because if you kind of hold back and say we'll
(18:34):
do it in a year or two, that that might
never happen, you know. And he was right, because you know,
it would have been hard to kind of revisit it
a couple of years later, you know. As difficult as
it was to do the record, I'm glad we did,
and I think the drawers would have been very proud
of it because those songs, you know, once I heard
(18:54):
the demos, I was kind of reminded of the earlier
songs we had done. They had that kind of feeling
there was an innocence to them or something. Yeah, you know,
I'm really proud of that record as difficult as it
was to make it still sounds great.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Let me ask you this, if she were here today,
and of course again God rest her soul, love her
so much, just what she meant to the band too.
But if she were here today, what do you think
she would say to the younger generation now, knowing how
tough this business is to make it no matter what
genre of music you're doing out there, there's some keys
to or advice for young artists today who are getting
in it now compared to what you guys got it
(19:32):
back into the nineties.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think it's the most important thing is to
be true to yourself. And that was something that lawyers
always believed in, you know, not to copy other people
and you know, jump on a trend because a lot
of the time in her career, especially early on in
her career, you know, a lot of industry people would
(19:56):
have said, you know, this is what's happening now, it's
kind of more densey element. Don't you try that? And
we were like, this is not really us. This is
what we're doing. We want to do it our way,
you know, and we kind of stuck to our guns
and believed in what we were doing and didn't fall
into a trend, because what happens with the trend is
you become part of this scene and then when that
(20:16):
trend is over, people move on and you were forgotten about,
you know, And you know, we kind of didn't want
to get stuck in a certain pigeonholing a certain genre
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
When do you think back to out to my family,
what comes to mind? Memories and performances on that one too.
That's another one of my favorite ones to listen to.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I remember the first time we started playing it
at sound check. It was in Boston and I think
it was the Orpheum Theater because I have some family
in Boston, and I went out to meet them for
lunch and came back and we were doing soundcheck, and
I remember, no I started playing the cards and the
(21:02):
laws started singing. I was like, oh, this sounds nice,
this is different. So we started jamming. We did a
lot that a lot at sound check, you know, started
jamminging ideas and then would record them and listen back
to them and kind of go, oh, yeah that could
work or whatever, and yeah, it's just I think because
we had been on tour for a while, Dloris was
(21:24):
missing home and missing her family, and that's that's kind
of what triggered that song.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I think y'all I did a lot of great music
videos in your career too.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
That was actually one of my favorites. Two The Ode
of My Family.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
When you think back to music videos and how that's
just a great trend to have to make the song
really come alive and the team you hire to put
that together too, to be able to go out there
and shoot it, choosing location and a setting and another
way to tell a story through a song and through
a music video. What was your favorite one to kind
of go out through a favorite top two or three
songs to shoot music videos for?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, those ones with Sam Beert were great, Owe to
my Family and the Zombie he did, and then Olivia
Dehan he was a French guy who did a Salvation
and This is the Day a few others he was
great as well. It's tough. It's tough doing videos because
(22:17):
you know, musicians aren't visual artists as such, so you're
kind of putting it. You're putting your song in somebody
else's hands and hoping that they'll do a good job,
and you can kind of throw some ideas in there.
But at the end of the day, the director is
the guy with the vision, and if his vision doesn't
match yours, it can be a bit awkward. So I
(22:40):
was never a huge fan. It's very boring to do
videos as a musician because there's a lot of waiting
around all day and then you know, okay, you're on
now for like, you know, play the song three or
four times in a row, and then that's it. You're done.
But yeah, it was the thing the Loures was into,
and she kind of made sure that the director kind
(23:03):
of understood where she was coming from, and we would
have a good chat with them and kind of explain
what song was about or whatever, and try and do
her best to kind of make sure that the director
got the right picture of what the song was about.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Definitely, truth to be told, they're no doubt about it
getting the picture of what that song's all about too.
And I tell you what, We're gonna play some more
music here fergol Lawler here on the backstage pass. We're
living some Cranberry days out there too. You can again
stream those songs across all the DSPs out there. Yesterday's gone,
and I believe this has never appeared on any release,
and so this is we get a little exclusive here,
we get to play for which is great. Here it
(23:42):
is on the backstage pass coming back to talk about
it here more with fergol Here again KYBN ninety eight
point one, your Bay Area broadcasting network, empowered by the
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Speaker 4 (23:52):
Stay tuned, And this.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is also a new song, So here we go. This
one's called Yesterday. Yesterday's gone.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
To her shame?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I heard she miscarried.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
And you.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Sch did.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
From the world?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Who cock saved your chod? Yesterday's dome? There's no returned?
And she cried on, did you from the world you
(25:13):
conceived your child? Yesterday's done. There's no return, and she.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Crieds on.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
That hormon.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Spade?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I joy? Will you return to the wall.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Who concede jo job?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yesterday's done, There's no return.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
She cries, will your returned to the wall who concede
jo shot? Yesterday's done. There's no return, and she cries on,
(26:50):
did you run from the wall who concede yon shot?
Yesterday done? Here's the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Sheep? Bye, thank you?
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Speaker 2 (29:01):
And back you're on the show. Fergo Lawler here on
the backstage pass. We live in the old Cranberry days
out there too, and of course talking about some great
music out there and some of those vivid memories that
come to mind. Yesterday's Gone, which has never appeared on
any release, and of course, if you guys are actually
watching the website, you can actually see the YouTube video
out there too, which is the only performance of that
song at the Sports Guys podcast dot Com talk about
(29:23):
this one too and never appeared on any release.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I love this song.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, I know, it's crazy. It's just one of those
ones that fell between the cracks because it was written
like a week or so before MTV unplugged, and we
would do that a lot, you know, when there's new
songs like let's play this one in the set tonight
or whatever, you know, And because it was new and fresh,
I think we decided to throw it into the set
(29:49):
for MTV and plugged and it just sounded really great
and it was a beautiful side. I don't understand why
we never recorded it, and I don't think we ever
played it live after that that MTV session either, which
is weird because you know, it's a beautiful song and
it's just one of the ones that I don't know,
maybe it's just meant to be that special oneself.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I appreciate you let us play it here on
the backstage pass. I loved another record that came out there,
Something Else, which was another just creative vibe out there,
you guys putting your heads together to I love the
songwriting aspect of this. You took some of the old hits,
you made some acoustic versions out of those songs, which
was another fantastic idea too. And a lot of cool
things happened with this record because Something Else was kind
(30:35):
of that title.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
It was Something Else, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was one of those ones we
just wanted to do something different, and you know, we
hadn't released the MTV and Plugged hadn't been released on
record or anything like that. So we had always done
acoustic versions of songs since the very beginning, like at
radio stations or in record stores and that, and it's
(31:00):
just it's a different perspective on the songs, I think
because they're they're so intimate, and it really led to
Lauris's vocals shine. I think, so we wanted to do
something like that. So that's where the idea for something
else came.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Another great song in the catalog animal instinct.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think we all have a little bit of that
inside of us too as human being.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, I think that that that was a song that
that that Delors wrote the lyrics for after I think
the lyrics were inspired by the fact that she had
her first child, you know, and she really felt that
that that animal instinct as a mother, you know. And
I think that's where where that came from. And that
(31:46):
was a nice video. Actually, we did a video for
that out just outside Toronto and the countryside and it
was really just really sweet. It's kind of a sweet song.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Take me to School bit you mentioned. So I'm writing
a lot too, because that's the key for a lot
of artists today. I'm noticing, is you mean you put
out one great song and that's it. Boom, It's just
I mean billboard And I love it because, you know,
she had a unique style, speaking of Dolors to write
these songs and deliver this and get with Noel like
you said, in the band and really come up with
these ideas what was her process or did she even
(32:19):
have a process of songwriting.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She would work away at home with either piano or guitar,
and then she would come into rehearsal and start playing
the chords or whatever and then humming bits because she
usually she didn't have all the lyrics finished at that point,
so she'd start playing the cards, humming the vocal melody
(32:45):
and a few lyrics, and then we'd listen and kind
of go, you know, get a feel for it, and
then start adding her own bits. And then other times
Noel would come up with chords and guitar and send
her a tape with them, and then we'd all get
together in the rehearsal room and start playing and just
(33:06):
getting a feeling. And it was very natural. No one
kind of said you don't play this, try this here,
you know. It was everyone's kind of trusted each other
and you do your bit, I'll do my bit, and
we'll see what happens. And it was almost without talking.
You could kind of feel what way the song should
lean left or right, or you know, should it rise
(33:28):
here or should it kind of soften a bit there.
It was it was a very natural thing, and that
was one of the the best parts have been in
the band, I think was that creating just the four
of us in a room, no one else involved. Just
that magic that was there when when the four of
us played together, it was something special.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Really magic happens in the studio, no doubt about it too.
When people are meant to work together, they're meant to
work together too. And I love that because you guys
have done this for so long and talk about that,
because it seems like there was a lot of great
camaraderie in the band. You guys were not just you know,
performing on stage. You would go out and I talked
to a lot of bands here that do that, you know,
whether it's eating on the road and spending time together
because you're like a family, Like you said, you spend
(34:08):
a lot of time together, travel all that kind of
stuff too. So that camaraderie and that cohesiveness had to
be there, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, definitely, I mean I think yeah, when the fame
kicked in after the second album, really, I suppose is
where it really started to ramp up. We were a
bit overwhelmed by it, I think, and it just brought
us closer together and kind of, you know, we went
off on tour and stayed in our little bubble almost,
And yeah, I think because we were all going through
(34:37):
that together, it just did bring us that bit closer again,
you know, is it a different thing with something another
experience to go through.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Another great track off of There Too. I loved it
was the one that got you guys out there too,
free to decide. I'd love the title of it just
because it was fantastic too. And I think that's a
lot of That's a song that people need to hear
because there's a lot of life stories built into one,
like to decide.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, it is one of those uplifting songs, isn't it?
And it was always when we played it live, it
was always one you know when the chorus kicked in
that you could feel the whole place rising up. You know,
you have that positive energy, and it was always a yeah,
there was always a positivity in that song.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Let me ask you this kind of more than lighthoarded
note that the holidays are coming up for a lot
of people, so much can only happen for me, And
then you got to take time like it's all I
told my kid, I said, we're going to put up lights.
We can finally get down the Christmas tree. What are
you most looking forward to with the family for this
coming holiday season.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well, my kids are a bit older, so we've gone
past the Santa Claus gifting stage. But there's two of
them away in college, so they're going to be coming
back for Christmas. So that's the first time that's happened.
So that's going to be really sweet. And we've been
decorating the house, putting up the Christmas tree, and the
(35:58):
lights are up and all that and everything is ready.
But I love to cook, so I'm looking forward to
just putting on some nice Christmas tunes and cooking lots
of meals.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
What's on the menu this Christmas Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Will be it's a beef Wellington. I normally do because
the lads like turkey, but they're not mad about turkey,
so you know, I usually do turkey legs on steak
the following day, Steven's Day. But yeah, beef Wellington.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, look at that sounds like a good meal to me,
no doubt about it. Love that too.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Looking back as far as that food category you mentioned
cooking out there, what other hobbies, whether it be I
know a lot of people say fitness or going for
walks or hikes or things out there too.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What do you like to get into hobby wise.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, I still go to the gym. I'm fifty four,
so I need to kind of watch my blood pressure
and all that. So I do go to the gym
and try and keep fit, but like three times a week.
Nothing over the top or anything. But I love Formerly One.
Been into Formula one since Jesus the eighties. I used
to watch it with my dad and this weekend is
(37:05):
the Family One Grand Finale.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Look be good there too. Hey, I'm forty six. I'm
getting scared now approaching fifty. Any tips for me as
I get to the fifty mark.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's the thing I think, before you hit the age,
you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna be fifty blah
blah blah. But then actually when it happens, it's like, oh,
I still feel the same. I still feel the same
as I did, like in my thirties. So you know,
I don't as as you said earlier, It's all about
how you feel mentally and physically, you know. And you know,
(37:39):
I don't worry about it too much about age.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just one number that keeps moving on. We can't reverse anything,
and she's got to keep attaching numbers too. And it solely,
I guess, as old as you feel when it comes
down to it. Mentally, I'm like you. I did go
to the gym a lot, so it does keep me
mentally a saying there too. And of course I love it.
You can release those endorphins, get it out of there,
and yeah, you're right, I gotta watch the blood pressures.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
We get older there too.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
At the same time, too well, I tell you what,
love the music, he congratulations and all the success. The
music will live on for a lifetime, no doubt about
it continues on for a lot of great fans, including
the newer generation out there. Fergo Lawler of the Cranberry's
out there too, here on the backstage past Fergo appreciate
the time, looking forward to any more great memories down
the road. God bless you guys, and a happy holiday season.
We appreciate it you two, Thank you very much. One
(38:23):
of the best out there, the Cranberry's Fergo Lawler here
on the backstage past war great shows coming up. KYBN
ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network and
the Sports Guys podcast dot Com of course, anytime, iHeartRadio
podcasts and THHWN dot org. For our friends at Tarheel
World Network, we'll talk to you soon. Take care, God
bless Hey all, this.
Speaker 13 (38:42):
Is Chandler Marie and you're listening to the award nominated
Backstage Pass on KYBN ninety eight point one, your Bay
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