December 2, 2024 • 28 mins
The one and only for King + Country joined us on The Backstage Pass! Joel Smallbone sits down with us to chat about the guys new Christmas album, A Drummer Boy Christmas (Live) and about the guys upcoming performances at the Grand Ole Opry! Tune in as Joel also talks about and reflects on a career that has seen the band win GRAMMY and Billboard Music Award Wins, and the opportunity to create music with many of their heroes!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome inside the backstage pass.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Always a busy day and happy holidays to everybody out
there to KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine and
our friends out there WSM the home of the Grand
Ole Opry two out there, and we told you guys
we had a special treat for you today. Brandon Morel
here of course, presented by a friends over at the
Kaden Gordonshow dot com Today's best Country Mix and Joel
Smallbone of the great group for King and Country joins
us here on the backstage pass.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So Joel, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Brother? And this is a true backstage past edition because
you have me in my bedroom and you have you
just finishing up CrossFit in your truck, like they couldn't
be something. They couldn't be anything more backstage than actually
being backstage. So grateful to be with you. Brandon, Well done, brother.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like I said, it's it's a real time, no doubt,
just as much commitment as there as there is to
singing and touring out there too. You guys have got
it going on, I mean everywhere. Just talking about how
crazy twenty twenty four has been for King Country for
you and brother, I mean, it's been almost a whirlwind this.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Entire year, and I feel like we just started it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But now you guys are coming into the holidays now
and you're still staying busy.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Man, Am I crazy? Or was it not Christmas twenty
twenty three like three months ago?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right? That's what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I just can't believe it. And yet at the
same time, Man, it's been for us and the band
and myself, it's been the most kind of monumental year
maybe of my life so far. We got to go
down on the Homecoming tour to Australia and play for
our you know, our Southern Hemisphere birth country. We got
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to release a film through Lionsgate that's about our parents'
origin story and I play our dad in the film.
We got to do a thirty one date arena tour
with the King Country Live. And then, as you said, Brandon,
we're kind of we're culminating the year. We were talking
about this before we started the episode. We're culminating the
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year not just with you know, releasing a live Christmas
album to everyone, not just with playing the Opry four times,
which is their first ever residency officially at the Opry,
but we're also releasing this cinematic concert experience that we
filmed in Texas. We filmed in Houston, Texas at the
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Toyota Center last year. Yeah, and we're putting it in
fifteen hundred theaters from December fifth through December twelfth as
a live concert experience in America, in Canada, in the UK,
in Australia and New Zealand. So, man, it's a peking
country Christmas this year, without.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
A doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Brother, and I said Happy Thanksgiving to you guys too,
and all your families out there. Well, you know, I
love the ride that you guys have been on too,
but I love the fact it's just been a lot
of years and not just as past year we talked about,
but over the past you know, ten years, if you will,
you guys have been buil towards something special.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You built a great fan base.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Talk about just the Christian country side of it, really
the Christian music side, and just how involved your fans are,
because they really relate and resonate with the music. And
you know, without the fans, they're really is not a
career out there. But at the same time, those fans
have helped you guys get to the peak of the
mountain up there, and it's just been, you know, phenomenal
to see this ride and the fans supporting you guys.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, I'm going to say the best for Lost and
talk about how sort of music family and supporters and
fans at the end of this question. But I do
want to say shout out to country music because you know,
from the moment we moved from Australia, we moved straight
to Nashville. We have country and our band name, but
we are not officially a country band. I'm going to
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say we're unofficially officially a country band because we've performed
at the Cmas. We've performed the CMA Country Christmas not once,
but twice because we're doing it again this year. We've
performed the CMT Crossroads twice. And then we've had you know,
Dolly Potton and Gabby Barrett and some of the greats
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in the country music space. Lee Brice, our fellow labelmate,
join us or us join them on tracks. And so
we although you know, we don't have a fiddle on
a lot of our music, we feel so loved by
the country community. And I'll say this too, Brandon. You
might know this, but with the Drummer Boy Christmas Concert experience.
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Dolly Potton and Gabby are featured in the film, so
you'll see them show up in the snow Globe, which
is super fun. And and man, I can't look. I
can't say enough about you know this, with your listeners
and your viewers. We're public servants, you and me Brandon, like,
that's our job. If no one's on the other side
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of this, you know, backstage past episode, if no one's
on the other side of you know, us putting you know,
driving board Christmas in the theaters or putting the album
on streaming. If there are no listeners and no viewers,
let's hang our hat up and you know, and and
go do something else, because they're the ones that give
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us a job. And I love that. I love that
we sort of live and breathe by the people because
I feel like it grounds you with the people, It
grounds us with the people. And there's a great quote
that says, you know, let let others write the laws
of the lands. You know, we will write the songs
or in your case, you know, well we'll give them
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the podcast and the backstage pass and the show, you know.
And and I love I love, the ability to in
an election year with wars going on around the world,
to be able to sing and make films and and
and you know, create environments for people to realize that
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we're actually not as different as we think we often are,
that that there is this thing called love and hope
and joy and peace and redemption and we can share
in it together.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I couldn't I couldn't be more grateful for how
to King Country family for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know what's it been like for you guys to
have your closest one of the closest family members. I know,
I'm very very close with my brother, my sister, and
we do a lot of things together. Some things we
do differently too, but a lot of the family time
now that we talk about the holidays and how important
it is to be with family, but to do something
with someone that you've loved so much and you have
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so much respect for, and I mean, you've spent your
entire life with to build this thing for King and
Country itself. Talk about what that means and just the
ride that you guys only been on as a band,
but it's family members and what that means to have
family involved in your career and what you do to
have your your one of your best friends right next
to you.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I have spent more time with my brother Luke than
any other human in the world, including my wife, just
because of the fact that, you know, I had twenty
seven years of spending time with Luke before I even
met my wife. So she's got some catching I think
she'll beat him out in the end, but she's got
some catching up to do. And then I wouldn't I
wouldn't trade it. You know. We we were certainly an
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arranged marriage as a band because we kind of got
thrown in the mix. It was actually our dad's idea
to put us together. But I'm so grateful we're over
a decade in of you know, for king country and
the ability to It's one thing to be born into
a family, as you know, Brandon, you're born into a family.
You had no autonomy over choosing your siblings. It just
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was what it was and is what it is. It's
a whole other thing as an adult to go I
choose you, you know, like I'm showing up and I'm
gonna partner with you. And by the way, it doesn't
work a lot of the time, but I'm really proud
to say that I have four brothers. Then in some way,
shape or form, I've partnered with every single one of them,
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either in the past or I'm actively partnering with them
to this day. And and the whole mark of partnership
is obviously Luke, and it's just been rich Man and
we don't get each other's lame like I'm a I'm
a front man, I'm an agitator, I'm an I'm the engine,
I'm the passion. And he's a steady he's just he's
he's cool, calm, collected, he's a peacemaker. And and so
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there's a lot of common respects for each other. And
one of the you know, I'm awfully proud of my
marriage of eleven years with Mariah, and I'm awfully proud
of this marriage, if you will, with my brother of
over a decade. It's it's it's been one of the
great joys in my life and one of the hottest
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things I've ever had to do too, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Let's talk about this album. I love this There's something
for everybody on this Christmas album. You guys have put
out this drummer Boy fantastic, a lot of those Christmas
favorites that people really enjoy, but also a lot of
the tunes that you guys get a chance to kind
of put your own kind of stamp on a little bit,
talk about just the album and hit on some of
those highlights that you're most proud of in this Christmas
record you guys put it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well, look, here's what's beautiful about Christmas.
You're taking songs that have been sung, some of them
for generations, some of them for two hundred years, written
in different languages, written in different times in human history,
and we get to kind of channel these songs and
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in this case with the live album and the film,
experience to experience it in front of ten fifteen thousand people.
We love touring, but Christmas tours, I think because of
taking Drummer Boy in Silent Night and Ocoma coming Manuel
and do you hear what I hear? These tent pole
songs that come around every year. To be able to
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take them and sort of steward them to the people
with our own feking country rhythmic cinematic flare is beautiful.
And look the other thing we decided there's different versions
of Christmas. Right, there's there's like there's Santa Claus Christmas,
there's a Hallmark Christmas, there's Grandma got run over by
reindeer Christmas. And then there's what I would call the
(10:12):
o G Christmas. And that is that this God, man,
this infant came, you know, God came to earth in
this vulnerable baby and literally flipped the world on its head.
He turned b C into ad you know, the most
famous name around the globe, inspired the most red book
ever written. And so to sing about that, to put
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it on streaming platforms, to put it in cinemas, what
a privilege. Man. And I will say this, I don't
feel like I want Christmas this year. I feel like
I need it. I feel like, with the amounts of
division that we faced this year with you know, with
what's going on in the world, stage like to be
reminded that we're in this together and to aspire to
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be that, to aspire to the great hallmarks of what
it needs to be human of love and joy and
you know, you know, loving our enemies even Gosh, this
is that's a beautiful thing to celebrate. So I'm I'm
I'm really proud of it. And it was funny. I
was just driving in the car. It was day before
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yesterday with my with Mariah and and I was watching
my niece and nephews, and we were listening to the
live album. It's the first time. I just pulled it
up on Spotify and listened to it, and it's really
it's really special. I think it's even more special than
the recording version because there's something about having twelve thousand
people sing along with you that the atmosphere it completely
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changed than just being behind a you know, a studio. Mike, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Know you mentioned about stepping on that stage, and I
got a chance to go backstage this past summer during
CMA week cojol with the Sunday morning Country event they
always do there too, just a great, great phenomenal emit
that Brenda Lee host, and we got a chance to
go backstage and do our broadcast in our radio show
live from backstage at the Opry. As you mentioned those
Christmas shows coming up, and how I'm just impressive it
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is to step inside that center circle in front of
ten fifteen thousand people to play. When you get a
chance to step inside at Center Circle, and I know
for you guys, it never gets old. It's an honor
and it's a privilege to step out there in country
music royalty to know where everybody from not just country,
but all genres of music have really crossed over and
stepped with an invitation to step inside the center circle.
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And congratulations on that. It's it's something not to be
taken lightly. And you guys should be very proud to
get to go back there and perform those Christmas shows
and step inside that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Grand center circle as in the Grand Ole Opry.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean, think about this is I think Brandon, you
find it's done correctly. The Grand Old Opry Show. It's
the longest running show in the world. Yes, they haven't
missed a weekend. I think it's in like ninety something.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Years, coming upon it one hundredth anniversary in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And yet they've never done like a proper residency. And
the fact that these two, you know, Australian immigrants get
to go in and stand on that center circle like
you said, and and and do four shows in such
an incredible venue with such beautiful meaning. Yeah, it's to
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pinch yourself moment for sure. And I I don't know
if I what I love about it. As well. Is
it Actually for the last few years, it's it's been
the culmination of our year. It's the last shows that
the King Country play. It's the last songs that we
sing or at the Opry. And how cool is that
as a natural Australian band that the last notes that
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we play on a guitar or the last notes we
sing are at the Opry every year And that's been
for the last four years. I think we started. We
actually started with a social distance show at the Opry
in twenty twenty was the first year we did it.
And so we're coming up on what twenty one, two three, Yeah,
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we're going up on this fifth year.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Crazy, unbelievable. And I want to ask you about the
versatility just in music today. Like I said, so many
great stars. You look at the Christian country scene for
you guys, and for what Bethel Music is doing for
so many great Laura and Elena and just all these
great artists in country music. That female movement now in country,
the ride that Landy Wilson has been on, it's crazy.
(14:33):
You're going to show out the shows now like the
voice in American Idol and America's got talent. Joel just
to continue to just pour out great singers who may
not otherwise have the chance unless they have a platform
like that. Give me kind of some thoughts on the
versatility in all genres of music, specifically with you guys
in Christian country and then you cross over to country music.
Now it's I've never seen it this Verstal in quite
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some time.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
What I love. And we've touched on a lot of
different genres brand and we've touched on you know, pop,
We've touched on more than touched on you know, the CCM,
the Christian gospel genre, and now you know, we've touched
on the country genre. And I'll say this maybe even
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more than our home turf. I've there's not been a
genre that I've felt more loved by than the country genre.
I my wife is actually abudding Latin country artists, and
she grew up with Shannaia and Selena and Faith and
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she's releasing her first kind of Latin country project next year.
And we went to the CMAS together. It's the first
time she's walked the COPT and you know, I found
myself after the show, you know, sitting back there and
having a chat with Post Malone, and I literally literally
said to him, Hey, I just want you to know,
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for what it's worth, how proud I am of you
for going from the pop you know, he was sort
of a pop superstar and stepping into the country community
the way you did. And I would say the same
actually to the country community. I'm so proud of you
for embracing him the way you did. Because art imitates life, right,
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and so if you have a genre that's sort of
shoving people out and so you're not one of us,
then I think and it's not an inclusive genre, then
I think people will imitate that in their communities where
they start segregating people and separgating people. And the country
community has really i mean, look, I know it's not
a perfect genre, but it really has, at least from
what I've seen the last few years, embraced a lot
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of artists that didn't sort of grow up in the genre.
Even down again to my wife as a Latin country artist,
she feels so welcome, and she's she's been in the
alternative genre and the Christian gospel genre and and she
just feels so loved. And so I'm I'm proud. I'm
proud to be in this town. I'm proud, you know,
to cheer on the country music community. I'm proud to
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cheer on my wife. I'm proud to cheer on post
alone and like, hey, go, you know, go go, Because
if it's not about genres anymore, as you mentioned, this
is so much more. This is so much more about
coming together and crossing lines and and and and inviting
people into discussions and inviting people into sing with you.
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If we can do that, in the odds, I think
there's no there's no ceiling on how we can impact
American culture and the world culture if we have this,
if we're inviting people into the conversation instead of excluding
them from it. So yeah, I couldn't I couldn't say enough, man,
I couldn't say enough.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well said no doubt about it too. And it's it's
so much to be that family across all genres of music.
I love it because everybody in that arts business being creative,
and I love songwriting and I want to get into
that a little bit with you, because a lot of
life come here on the program and talk about, you know,
their style of songwriting and kind of what works for them,
and you know where they get the ideas for songwriting
from a lot of people say it could be, you know,
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a fantasy type thing, or it could be something we've
actually gone through on the personal side. For you guys
and for King and Country. When it comes to songwriting,
what do you love most about the process?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Joel?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's magic, right, It's a miracle. I mean, think about it, Brandon,
what other? And I love that You've dedicated your life
to it and I've dedicated my life to it in
different ways? What other even ought? Can literally you can
switch on a song and in three and a half minutes,
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it can change the way you see yourself. It can
change the way you see the world. It can change
the way you see God. It can change the way
you see your spouse or your girlfriend or your boyfriend.
Like what to me? And also it is so hard,
Like there are days as a writer that I walk
out and I'm like, I'm never going to write a
song again. This is the hardest thing ever. And then
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there are days you walk out and you go, that
was just again, it was just It's unexplainable. Even in
the time of AI and modern technology, you cannot it's this.
I think it's the language of the angels. Can't you
can't put a finger on where it comes from, and
you just get the opportunity to grab hold of it
and steward it. Writing for me is so much about
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you know. I believe the song writes you more than
you write the song. You just have to put yourself
in the environment as much as possible and stay true.
And so we've chosen to write life songs. We've chosen
to write love songs and god songs, and they have
to kind of come from a personal place for us
to really kind of rally around it. But it could
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be a rhythm, man, it could be it could be
an idea. One of the songs. Actually, the song that
Dolly Potten sung on with us. God only knows it.
It was just a phrase that I had written down
in a notebook, and I wasn't aware of the Beach Boys.
God only knows. I probably wouldn't have written it had
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if I'd known about the God only knows what'd I
do with actual I probably would have been out, already
been done. But I was just fascinated by this phrase
because I said to the guys, I said, isn't it
interesting that we throw this phrase around so flippantly? God
on the nose why this kind of stuff happens, you know.
And yet I prescribe to this notion if you really
drill down on the concept that there is this sort
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of creative design and this creator that does know so
much about us, more than we know about ourselves, and
yet still loves us and accepts us and chooses us.
And so it was really fascinating to write from that perspective.
God only knows what you've been through. God on the
knows what they say about you. God On they knows
how it's killing you. But there's this kind of love
that God On they knows. And then to call Dolly's people,
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I thought, man, I thought it was a hope and
a prayer.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I was like, there's no way she's gonna go for this.
And then a week later to be on the phone
with Dolly and she's like, y'all, I just got to
tell you I love this song and I love to
sing it with you, and we should perform it at
the CMA's. And then it's nominated for a Grammy Award
and it wins a Grammy Award, and it was her
tenth Grammy. So my claim to Fang brand is that
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I got to take We got to take Dolly from
single digits to double digits with the Grammy Awards, you know.
So you just got to stay available to it and
be humble with it. And it's a beautiful thing, man,
It really.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Is, no doubt about it too. Like I said that,
those arts are something else. Man, when it comes down
to the creative process of songwriting, I love it. And
the storytelling is so important too. For a lot of
the fans out there, Hey, tell me about during some downtime.
What's you and the family, the wife, brother, you know,
just everybody in the family right there to you. What
do y'all have you want doing for fun when you're
away from music.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, this is crazy because we just announced a little
while ago that we're literally, for the first time in
the band's history, we are not doing a show next year.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, other than other than and.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You've heard it here first, because we haven't officially announced it.
Other than the Opry residency, that's the only shows we're
doing at the end of the year. And speaking of
writing and speaking of family, we chose to do that
for three reasons. One, to be with family and just
to be with each other. Secondly, to write another project,
because when you're traveling, you're pouring out so much, so
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to be able to you've got to take time to
pour back in to write. And then thirdly, we're working
on another feature length film, and so it's going to
be a fascinating year. I I love being home, man.
I mean, like I said, I'm in my talking to
you from my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Here.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
There's something about the same stuary because you know, in
the next month we're going to crisscross the United States.
We're gonna be in the UK, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be awesome, but it's gonna be busy. So
the beauty of coming home and literally doing nothing is quiet.
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I love taking baths too, brand and that's I love it.
I love a good old fashioned boss.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We love looking forward to that. But I always love
like going to the gym and they've got those those
world pools to kind of get into hot shower. You
get those world pools and you get the jets right
behind your back and you get sore muscles from from
working out too, Joel. And it's like those those those
world pools made of the best.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
They're magic, magic magic. Oh yeah, that's the other thing.
That's the other thing. Speaking of hot tubs, one of
my I've been working on it for a year or
two now, but and it sounds simple, but we're putting
in a hot tub at the house, and then I
feel like a king. I feel like a king. I'm
gonna get to go and get in that hot tub.
It's literally like two weeks away from being done, and
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so I'm god, I'm literally gonna leave the Opry. I've
not told anyone this other than Mariah. We're gonna leave
the Opry on the on the twentieth, We're gonna drive home,
and then we're gonna get in that hot tub for
the first time. Five days ship Christmas. That's what we're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I wi't blame you, Hey, talk to me about this
one here. I love it a little rapid fire. We
do places to eat there in Nashville. It's no stranger
to the best restaurants, or at least some of the
best right there in Tennessee. When you guys, I guess
night in the town, where do you like to go eat?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What type of food?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I am? I am the king of Asian and Mariah
is the Queen of Asian speaking of Mariah. This she is,
She's just sneaking, sneaking out there. So two ten, Jack,
I love ramen, not the top ramen that got you
through college, like I love good quality ramen. There's a
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place in actually in Cool Springs. We lived down in Franklin.
It's a place in Cool Springs called me Kitchen am
I Kitchen, which is like a It's like an Asian
sort of top of place. Beautiful. Oh gosh, there's so many.
While Ginger in Cool Springs is another great one that
I love. Man, I'm all things. I'm all things Asian,
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either that or our record label CURB. Anytime we win
an award or something exciting happens, they send me a
gift card to Perry's. So I inevitably end up going
to Perry's Steakhouse a lot as well. I don't eat
meat very much, so when I go to Perry's, I
just yeah, I just I just rage. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That's a good restaurant, no doubt about too. Oh, my brother,
I appreciate the time. I appreciate the time here on
the show Man. Congratulations to you and Luke and just
the entire family. And you know, the brand itself. Four
King and Country. It's just been a great ride for
you guys well over a decade, and you know, continue
success into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Really enjoyed the chat and definitely looking forward to promoting
as much as we can the opry shows, the Christmas
album and Man, come back to you. I hope you
enjoyed it, and thanks so much for being with us.
We appreciate it absolutely. We'll see in the cinemas. Man,
And you keep crossfitting, you know, you keep lifting that.
I'm really proud of you, and I'm proud of you, Brandon.
I want to say this, I'm proud of you for
getting into the gym three months before the new year.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like they say, it actually takes seventy days to develop
a habit, and you developed it before going into twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So hey, man, mental health. To you, half the battle
is being mental, and I always tell people half of
it is showing up. When you show up, then you
show out, and then it's amazing. Get a few teachers
who really want it to happen, and I'll just go
and give them a plug because they deserve it. But Man,
this gym crunch fitness is really taking the world by
Storm with their trainers and the people they have out
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their goals. So I tell people, if you want to
get into it, the mental aspect of it, self care
is such an important part. And also with you guys too,
you know, self care in your career has to be
important too, because you guys are on the road all
the time. So if you don't take time for yourself,
how can you take time for anybody else?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Amen? Amen, you are so right. What you put in
your body, how you treat your body, getting the blood flowing,
getting in the hot top of the sawna the cold
pool lift in some way, it's gone for a run. Man,
It's all. It's the ingredients of what it means to
be a good human. So get to it.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Get to it, brother, well.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Check them out at Fort Kingdom Country and the new
Christmas album across all the digital streaming platforms and of
course out there. Get in the cinemas over the next
couple of weeks here and then get to the Opry
at there opry dot com for those tickets and check
out the residency for Kingdom Country. Joel small Blown joining
us here KKTC, True Country ninety nine point nine and
our friends at WSM, the Home of the Grand Old Opry, Joel,
(27:39):
we appreciate it so much and looking forward to it.
Happy New Year, Happy holidays, and we'll be talking the
down the road.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Brother. We appreciate you. Love you.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Brandon, good to connect Man. We'll see you. We'll see
in Texas.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Looking forward to coming out to a show, no doubt
for Kingdom Country right there, Joel Smallbloon. More great music
coming up here on WSM, the Home of the Opry,
and of course our friends out there in Taos Kktcrue
Country ninety nine point nine.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take care and God bless. What's up y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's like for you and you're listening to the Backstage
Past podcast exclusively on KKTC ninety nine point nine True
Country in Taos, New Mexico.
And welcome inside the backstage pass.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Always a busy day and happy holidays to everybody out
there to KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine and
our friends out there WSM the home of the Grand
Ole Opry two out there, and we told you guys
we had a special treat for you today. Brandon Morel
here of course, presented by a friends over at the
Kaden Gordonshow dot com Today's best Country Mix and Joel
Smallbone of the great group for King and Country joins
us here on the backstage pass.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So Joel, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Brother? And this is a true backstage past edition because
you have me in my bedroom and you have you
just finishing up CrossFit in your truck, like they couldn't
be something. They couldn't be anything more backstage than actually
being backstage. So grateful to be with you. Brandon, Well done, brother.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like I said, it's it's a real time, no doubt,
just as much commitment as there as there is to
singing and touring out there too. You guys have got
it going on, I mean everywhere. Just talking about how
crazy twenty twenty four has been for King Country for
you and brother, I mean, it's been almost a whirlwind this.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Entire year, and I feel like we just started it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But now you guys are coming into the holidays now
and you're still staying busy.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Man, Am I crazy? Or was it not Christmas twenty
twenty three like three months ago?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right? That's what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I just can't believe it. And yet at the
same time, Man, it's been for us and the band
and myself, it's been the most kind of monumental year
maybe of my life so far. We got to go
down on the Homecoming tour to Australia and play for
our you know, our Southern Hemisphere birth country. We got
(01:43):
to release a film through Lionsgate that's about our parents'
origin story and I play our dad in the film.
We got to do a thirty one date arena tour
with the King Country Live. And then, as you said, Brandon,
we're kind of we're culminating the year. We were talking
about this before we started the episode. We're culminating the
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year not just with you know, releasing a live Christmas
album to everyone, not just with playing the Opry four times,
which is their first ever residency officially at the Opry,
but we're also releasing this cinematic concert experience that we
filmed in Texas. We filmed in Houston, Texas at the
(02:25):
Toyota Center last year. Yeah, and we're putting it in
fifteen hundred theaters from December fifth through December twelfth as
a live concert experience in America, in Canada, in the UK,
in Australia and New Zealand. So, man, it's a peking
country Christmas this year, without.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
A doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Brother, and I said Happy Thanksgiving to you guys too,
and all your families out there. Well, you know, I
love the ride that you guys have been on too,
but I love the fact it's just been a lot
of years and not just as past year we talked about,
but over the past you know, ten years, if you will,
you guys have been buil towards something special.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You built a great fan base.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Talk about just the Christian country side of it, really
the Christian music side, and just how involved your fans are,
because they really relate and resonate with the music. And
you know, without the fans, they're really is not a
career out there. But at the same time, those fans
have helped you guys get to the peak of the
mountain up there, and it's just been, you know, phenomenal
to see this ride and the fans supporting you guys.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, I'm going to say the best for Lost and
talk about how sort of music family and supporters and
fans at the end of this question. But I do
want to say shout out to country music because you know,
from the moment we moved from Australia, we moved straight
to Nashville. We have country and our band name, but
we are not officially a country band. I'm going to
(03:45):
say we're unofficially officially a country band because we've performed
at the Cmas. We've performed the CMA Country Christmas not once,
but twice because we're doing it again this year. We've
performed the CMT Crossroads twice. And then we've had you know,
Dolly Potton and Gabby Barrett and some of the greats
(04:07):
in the country music space. Lee Brice, our fellow labelmate,
join us or us join them on tracks. And so
we although you know, we don't have a fiddle on
a lot of our music, we feel so loved by
the country community. And I'll say this too, Brandon. You
might know this, but with the Drummer Boy Christmas Concert experience.
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Dolly Potton and Gabby are featured in the film, so
you'll see them show up in the snow Globe, which
is super fun. And and man, I can't look. I
can't say enough about you know this, with your listeners
and your viewers. We're public servants, you and me Brandon, like,
that's our job. If no one's on the other side
(04:54):
of this, you know, backstage past episode, if no one's
on the other side of you know, us putting you know,
driving board Christmas in the theaters or putting the album
on streaming. If there are no listeners and no viewers,
let's hang our hat up and you know, and and
go do something else, because they're the ones that give
(05:14):
us a job. And I love that. I love that
we sort of live and breathe by the people because
I feel like it grounds you with the people, It
grounds us with the people. And there's a great quote
that says, you know, let let others write the laws
of the lands. You know, we will write the songs
or in your case, you know, well we'll give them
(05:35):
the podcast and the backstage pass and the show, you know.
And and I love I love, the ability to in
an election year with wars going on around the world,
to be able to sing and make films and and
and you know, create environments for people to realize that
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we're actually not as different as we think we often are,
that that there is this thing called love and hope
and joy and peace and redemption and we can share
in it together.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I couldn't I couldn't be more grateful for how
to King Country family for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know what's it been like for you guys to
have your closest one of the closest family members. I know,
I'm very very close with my brother, my sister, and
we do a lot of things together. Some things we
do differently too, but a lot of the family time
now that we talk about the holidays and how important
it is to be with family, but to do something
with someone that you've loved so much and you have
(06:32):
so much respect for, and I mean, you've spent your
entire life with to build this thing for King and
Country itself. Talk about what that means and just the
ride that you guys only been on as a band,
but it's family members and what that means to have
family involved in your career and what you do to
have your your one of your best friends right next
to you.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I have spent more time with my brother Luke than
any other human in the world, including my wife, just
because of the fact that, you know, I had twenty
seven years of spending time with Luke before I even
met my wife. So she's got some catching I think
she'll beat him out in the end, but she's got
some catching up to do. And then I wouldn't I
wouldn't trade it. You know. We we were certainly an
(07:14):
arranged marriage as a band because we kind of got
thrown in the mix. It was actually our dad's idea
to put us together. But I'm so grateful we're over
a decade in of you know, for king country and
the ability to It's one thing to be born into
a family, as you know, Brandon, you're born into a family.
You had no autonomy over choosing your siblings. It just
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was what it was and is what it is. It's
a whole other thing as an adult to go I
choose you, you know, like I'm showing up and I'm
gonna partner with you. And by the way, it doesn't
work a lot of the time, but I'm really proud
to say that I have four brothers. Then in some way,
shape or form, I've partnered with every single one of them,
(07:59):
either in the past or I'm actively partnering with them
to this day. And and the whole mark of partnership
is obviously Luke, and it's just been rich Man and
we don't get each other's lame like I'm a I'm
a front man, I'm an agitator, I'm an I'm the engine,
I'm the passion. And he's a steady he's just he's
he's cool, calm, collected, he's a peacemaker. And and so
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there's a lot of common respects for each other. And
one of the you know, I'm awfully proud of my
marriage of eleven years with Mariah, and I'm awfully proud
of this marriage, if you will, with my brother of
over a decade. It's it's it's been one of the
great joys in my life and one of the hottest
(08:42):
things I've ever had to do too, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Let's talk about this album. I love this There's something
for everybody on this Christmas album. You guys have put
out this drummer Boy fantastic, a lot of those Christmas
favorites that people really enjoy, but also a lot of
the tunes that you guys get a chance to kind
of put your own kind of stamp on a little bit,
talk about just the album and hit on some of
those highlights that you're most proud of in this Christmas
record you guys put it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well, look, here's what's beautiful about Christmas.
You're taking songs that have been sung, some of them
for generations, some of them for two hundred years, written
in different languages, written in different times in human history,
and we get to kind of channel these songs and
(09:27):
in this case with the live album and the film,
experience to experience it in front of ten fifteen thousand people.
We love touring, but Christmas tours, I think because of
taking Drummer Boy in Silent Night and Ocoma coming Manuel
and do you hear what I hear? These tent pole
songs that come around every year. To be able to
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take them and sort of steward them to the people
with our own feking country rhythmic cinematic flare is beautiful.
And look the other thing we decided there's different versions
of Christmas. Right, there's there's like there's Santa Claus Christmas,
there's a Hallmark Christmas, there's Grandma got run over by
reindeer Christmas. And then there's what I would call the
(10:12):
o G Christmas. And that is that this God, man,
this infant came, you know, God came to earth in
this vulnerable baby and literally flipped the world on its head.
He turned b C into ad you know, the most
famous name around the globe, inspired the most red book
ever written. And so to sing about that, to put
(10:35):
it on streaming platforms, to put it in cinemas, what
a privilege. Man. And I will say this, I don't
feel like I want Christmas this year. I feel like
I need it. I feel like, with the amounts of
division that we faced this year with you know, with
what's going on in the world, stage like to be
reminded that we're in this together and to aspire to
(11:00):
be that, to aspire to the great hallmarks of what
it needs to be human of love and joy and
you know, you know, loving our enemies even Gosh, this
is that's a beautiful thing to celebrate. So I'm I'm
I'm really proud of it. And it was funny. I
was just driving in the car. It was day before
(11:20):
yesterday with my with Mariah and and I was watching
my niece and nephews, and we were listening to the
live album. It's the first time. I just pulled it
up on Spotify and listened to it, and it's really
it's really special. I think it's even more special than
the recording version because there's something about having twelve thousand
people sing along with you that the atmosphere it completely
(11:43):
changed than just being behind a you know, a studio. Mike, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Know you mentioned about stepping on that stage, and I
got a chance to go backstage this past summer during
CMA week cojol with the Sunday morning Country event they
always do there too, just a great, great phenomenal emit
that Brenda Lee host, and we got a chance to
go backstage and do our broadcast in our radio show
live from backstage at the Opry. As you mentioned those
Christmas shows coming up, and how I'm just impressive it
(12:11):
is to step inside that center circle in front of
ten fifteen thousand people to play. When you get a
chance to step inside at Center Circle, and I know
for you guys, it never gets old. It's an honor
and it's a privilege to step out there in country
music royalty to know where everybody from not just country,
but all genres of music have really crossed over and
stepped with an invitation to step inside the center circle.
(12:32):
And congratulations on that. It's it's something not to be
taken lightly. And you guys should be very proud to
get to go back there and perform those Christmas shows
and step inside that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Grand center circle as in the Grand Ole Opry.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean, think about this is I think Brandon, you
find it's done correctly. The Grand Old Opry Show. It's
the longest running show in the world. Yes, they haven't
missed a weekend. I think it's in like ninety something.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Years, coming upon it one hundredth anniversary in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And yet they've never done like a proper residency. And
the fact that these two, you know, Australian immigrants get
to go in and stand on that center circle like
you said, and and and do four shows in such
an incredible venue with such beautiful meaning. Yeah, it's to
(13:27):
pinch yourself moment for sure. And I I don't know
if I what I love about it. As well. Is
it Actually for the last few years, it's it's been
the culmination of our year. It's the last shows that
the King Country play. It's the last songs that we
sing or at the Opry. And how cool is that
as a natural Australian band that the last notes that
(13:50):
we play on a guitar or the last notes we
sing are at the Opry every year And that's been
for the last four years. I think we started. We
actually started with a social distance show at the Opry
in twenty twenty was the first year we did it.
And so we're coming up on what twenty one, two three, Yeah,
(14:10):
we're going up on this fifth year.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Crazy, unbelievable. And I want to ask you about the
versatility just in music today. Like I said, so many
great stars. You look at the Christian country scene for
you guys, and for what Bethel Music is doing for
so many great Laura and Elena and just all these
great artists in country music. That female movement now in country,
the ride that Landy Wilson has been on, it's crazy.
(14:33):
You're going to show out the shows now like the
voice in American Idol and America's got talent. Joel just
to continue to just pour out great singers who may
not otherwise have the chance unless they have a platform
like that. Give me kind of some thoughts on the
versatility in all genres of music, specifically with you guys
in Christian country and then you cross over to country music.
Now it's I've never seen it this Verstal in quite
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some time.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
What I love. And we've touched on a lot of
different genres brand and we've touched on you know, pop,
We've touched on more than touched on you know, the CCM,
the Christian gospel genre, and now you know, we've touched
on the country genre. And I'll say this maybe even
(15:20):
more than our home turf. I've there's not been a
genre that I've felt more loved by than the country genre.
I my wife is actually abudding Latin country artists, and
she grew up with Shannaia and Selena and Faith and
(15:42):
she's releasing her first kind of Latin country project next year.
And we went to the CMAS together. It's the first
time she's walked the COPT and you know, I found
myself after the show, you know, sitting back there and
having a chat with Post Malone, and I literally literally
said to him, Hey, I just want you to know,
(16:04):
for what it's worth, how proud I am of you
for going from the pop you know, he was sort
of a pop superstar and stepping into the country community
the way you did. And I would say the same
actually to the country community. I'm so proud of you
for embracing him the way you did. Because art imitates life, right,
(16:28):
and so if you have a genre that's sort of
shoving people out and so you're not one of us,
then I think and it's not an inclusive genre, then
I think people will imitate that in their communities where
they start segregating people and separgating people. And the country
community has really i mean, look, I know it's not
a perfect genre, but it really has, at least from
what I've seen the last few years, embraced a lot
(16:54):
of artists that didn't sort of grow up in the genre.
Even down again to my wife as a Latin country artist,
she feels so welcome, and she's she's been in the
alternative genre and the Christian gospel genre and and she
just feels so loved. And so I'm I'm proud. I'm
proud to be in this town. I'm proud, you know,
to cheer on the country music community. I'm proud to
(17:16):
cheer on my wife. I'm proud to cheer on post
alone and like, hey, go, you know, go go, Because
if it's not about genres anymore, as you mentioned, this
is so much more. This is so much more about
coming together and crossing lines and and and and inviting
people into discussions and inviting people into sing with you.
(17:39):
If we can do that, in the odds, I think
there's no there's no ceiling on how we can impact
American culture and the world culture if we have this,
if we're inviting people into the conversation instead of excluding
them from it. So yeah, I couldn't I couldn't say enough, man,
I couldn't say enough.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well said no doubt about it too. And it's it's
so much to be that family across all genres of music.
I love it because everybody in that arts business being creative,
and I love songwriting and I want to get into
that a little bit with you, because a lot of
life come here on the program and talk about, you know,
their style of songwriting and kind of what works for them,
and you know where they get the ideas for songwriting
from a lot of people say it could be, you know,
(18:19):
a fantasy type thing, or it could be something we've
actually gone through on the personal side. For you guys
and for King and Country. When it comes to songwriting,
what do you love most about the process?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Joel?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's magic, right, It's a miracle. I mean, think about it, Brandon,
what other? And I love that You've dedicated your life
to it and I've dedicated my life to it in
different ways? What other even ought? Can literally you can
switch on a song and in three and a half minutes,
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it can change the way you see yourself. It can
change the way you see the world. It can change
the way you see God. It can change the way
you see your spouse or your girlfriend or your boyfriend.
Like what to me? And also it is so hard,
Like there are days as a writer that I walk
out and I'm like, I'm never going to write a
song again. This is the hardest thing ever. And then
(19:13):
there are days you walk out and you go, that
was just again, it was just It's unexplainable. Even in
the time of AI and modern technology, you cannot it's this.
I think it's the language of the angels. Can't you
can't put a finger on where it comes from, and
you just get the opportunity to grab hold of it
and steward it. Writing for me is so much about
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you know. I believe the song writes you more than
you write the song. You just have to put yourself
in the environment as much as possible and stay true.
And so we've chosen to write life songs. We've chosen
to write love songs and god songs, and they have
to kind of come from a personal place for us
to really kind of rally around it. But it could
(20:01):
be a rhythm, man, it could be it could be
an idea. One of the songs. Actually, the song that
Dolly Potten sung on with us. God only knows it.
It was just a phrase that I had written down
in a notebook, and I wasn't aware of the Beach Boys.
God only knows. I probably wouldn't have written it had
(20:23):
if I'd known about the God only knows what'd I
do with actual I probably would have been out, already
been done. But I was just fascinated by this phrase
because I said to the guys, I said, isn't it
interesting that we throw this phrase around so flippantly? God
on the nose why this kind of stuff happens, you know.
And yet I prescribe to this notion if you really
drill down on the concept that there is this sort
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of creative design and this creator that does know so
much about us, more than we know about ourselves, and
yet still loves us and accepts us and chooses us.
And so it was really fascinating to write from that perspective.
God only knows what you've been through. God on the
knows what they say about you. God On they knows
how it's killing you. But there's this kind of love
that God On they knows. And then to call Dolly's people,
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I thought, man, I thought it was a hope and
a prayer.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I was like, there's no way she's gonna go for this.
And then a week later to be on the phone
with Dolly and she's like, y'all, I just got to
tell you I love this song and I love to
sing it with you, and we should perform it at
the CMA's. And then it's nominated for a Grammy Award
and it wins a Grammy Award, and it was her
tenth Grammy. So my claim to Fang brand is that
(21:31):
I got to take We got to take Dolly from
single digits to double digits with the Grammy Awards, you know.
So you just got to stay available to it and
be humble with it. And it's a beautiful thing, man,
It really.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Is, no doubt about it too. Like I said that,
those arts are something else. Man, when it comes down
to the creative process of songwriting, I love it. And
the storytelling is so important too. For a lot of
the fans out there, Hey, tell me about during some downtime.
What's you and the family, the wife, brother, you know,
just everybody in the family right there to you. What
do y'all have you want doing for fun when you're
away from music.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, this is crazy because we just announced a little
while ago that we're literally, for the first time in
the band's history, we are not doing a show next year.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, other than other than and.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You've heard it here first, because we haven't officially announced it.
Other than the Opry residency, that's the only shows we're
doing at the end of the year. And speaking of
writing and speaking of family, we chose to do that
for three reasons. One, to be with family and just
to be with each other. Secondly, to write another project,
because when you're traveling, you're pouring out so much, so
(22:37):
to be able to you've got to take time to
pour back in to write. And then thirdly, we're working
on another feature length film, and so it's going to
be a fascinating year. I I love being home, man.
I mean, like I said, I'm in my talking to
you from my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Here.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
There's something about the same stuary because you know, in
the next month we're going to crisscross the United States.
We're gonna be in the UK, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be awesome, but it's gonna be busy. So
the beauty of coming home and literally doing nothing is quiet.
(23:17):
I love taking baths too, brand and that's I love it.
I love a good old fashioned boss.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We love looking forward to that. But I always love
like going to the gym and they've got those those
world pools to kind of get into hot shower. You
get those world pools and you get the jets right
behind your back and you get sore muscles from from
working out too, Joel. And it's like those those those
world pools made of the best.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
They're magic, magic magic. Oh yeah, that's the other thing.
That's the other thing. Speaking of hot tubs, one of
my I've been working on it for a year or
two now, but and it sounds simple, but we're putting
in a hot tub at the house, and then I
feel like a king. I feel like a king. I'm
gonna get to go and get in that hot tub.
It's literally like two weeks away from being done, and
(24:00):
so I'm god, I'm literally gonna leave the Opry. I've
not told anyone this other than Mariah. We're gonna leave
the Opry on the on the twentieth, We're gonna drive home,
and then we're gonna get in that hot tub for
the first time. Five days ship Christmas. That's what we're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I wi't blame you, Hey, talk to me about this
one here. I love it a little rapid fire. We
do places to eat there in Nashville. It's no stranger
to the best restaurants, or at least some of the
best right there in Tennessee. When you guys, I guess
night in the town, where do you like to go eat?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What type of food?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I am? I am the king of Asian and Mariah
is the Queen of Asian speaking of Mariah. This she is,
She's just sneaking, sneaking out there. So two ten, Jack,
I love ramen, not the top ramen that got you
through college, like I love good quality ramen. There's a
(24:51):
place in actually in Cool Springs. We lived down in Franklin.
It's a place in Cool Springs called me Kitchen am
I Kitchen, which is like a It's like an Asian
sort of top of place. Beautiful. Oh gosh, there's so many.
While Ginger in Cool Springs is another great one that
I love. Man, I'm all things. I'm all things Asian,
(25:13):
either that or our record label CURB. Anytime we win
an award or something exciting happens, they send me a
gift card to Perry's. So I inevitably end up going
to Perry's Steakhouse a lot as well. I don't eat
meat very much, so when I go to Perry's, I
just yeah, I just I just rage. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That's a good restaurant, no doubt about too. Oh, my brother,
I appreciate the time. I appreciate the time here on
the show Man. Congratulations to you and Luke and just
the entire family. And you know, the brand itself. Four
King and Country. It's just been a great ride for
you guys well over a decade, and you know, continue
success into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Really enjoyed the chat and definitely looking forward to promoting
as much as we can the opry shows, the Christmas
album and Man, come back to you. I hope you
enjoyed it, and thanks so much for being with us.
We appreciate it absolutely. We'll see in the cinemas. Man,
And you keep crossfitting, you know, you keep lifting that.
I'm really proud of you, and I'm proud of you, Brandon.
I want to say this, I'm proud of you for
getting into the gym three months before the new year.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like they say, it actually takes seventy days to develop
a habit, and you developed it before going into twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So hey, man, mental health. To you, half the battle
is being mental, and I always tell people half of
it is showing up. When you show up, then you
show out, and then it's amazing. Get a few teachers
who really want it to happen, and I'll just go
and give them a plug because they deserve it. But Man,
this gym crunch fitness is really taking the world by
Storm with their trainers and the people they have out
(26:45):
their goals. So I tell people, if you want to
get into it, the mental aspect of it, self care
is such an important part. And also with you guys too,
you know, self care in your career has to be
important too, because you guys are on the road all
the time. So if you don't take time for yourself,
how can you take time for anybody else?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Amen? Amen, you are so right. What you put in
your body, how you treat your body, getting the blood flowing,
getting in the hot top of the sawna the cold
pool lift in some way, it's gone for a run. Man,
It's all. It's the ingredients of what it means to
be a good human. So get to it.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Get to it, brother, well.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Check them out at Fort Kingdom Country and the new
Christmas album across all the digital streaming platforms and of
course out there. Get in the cinemas over the next
couple of weeks here and then get to the Opry
at there opry dot com for those tickets and check
out the residency for Kingdom Country. Joel small Blown joining
us here KKTC, True Country ninety nine point nine and
our friends at WSM, the Home of the Grand Old Opry, Joel,
(27:39):
we appreciate it so much and looking forward to it.
Happy New Year, Happy holidays, and we'll be talking the
down the road.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Brother. We appreciate you. Love you.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Brandon, good to connect Man. We'll see you. We'll see
in Texas.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Looking forward to coming out to a show, no doubt
for Kingdom Country right there, Joel Smallbloon. More great music
coming up here on WSM, the Home of the Opry,
and of course our friends out there in Taos Kktcrue
Country ninety nine point nine.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take care and God bless. What's up y'all?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's like for you and you're listening to the Backstage
Past podcast exclusively on KKTC ninety nine point nine True
Country in Taos, New Mexico.
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