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May 30, 2025 38 mins
From the hit show, The Voice, to being one of the fatest rising ladies in country music, Jacquie Roar is putting out music that resonates with her fanbase. Tune in as we talk to Jacquie as she talks about her plans for 2025 and her new single, Boots In The Sand! 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys and gals, this is Jackie Roor and you're
listening to the award nominated Backstage Past Podcast on KKTC
True Country ninety nine point nine and on KYBN ninety
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also stream the show on THHWN dot org and.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome inside the backstage pass of course. Now we're on
the doorsteps of Nashville, Tennessee, coming up there at June
fifth to seventh, Music City Center, broadcasting the show live
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(00:39):
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(01:00):
what I love? Single release thing? We decided to squeeze
in a couple of more as we get through next
Week two and embark on Nashville two. She was on
the Voice a few years ago. Now she's become a
good friend of mine and a great friend of the show.
The new single, Boots in the Sand is across all
the DSPs out there, wherever you guys stream or download
your music. It's time to roar on the backstage, best Jackie,
roar here? How you doing, my friend?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm doing great? How are you, Brandon?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's good. You know we mentioned about embarking on Nashville
and like just invading it next to week that's gonna
be a nutty weeks as crazy as it is. Seventy
something interviews we're gonna do in like four days. And
excited to get there. But like in the back of
your mind, you know, as you guys take the stage,
it's gonna be a lot of work. And you know
you've got your set list, you've got your schedule, but
really improvp two things are gonna happen. It's just gonna

(01:42):
be a crazy week. And I know it's a very
important week for you too. It's just my mind has
been locked in on CMA Fest. It's crazy right now.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I love I loved my experience last year of CMA Fest.
I mean literally I walked in and coming down the
escalators of the main door with Zach top, so you know,
that's just the great entrance. You know, first time, I'm
like a dough with like wide eyes, you know, looking everywhere,
and it's just such a cool experience. And they also
have shopping, which I love to do. So I got

(02:11):
like a couple of new boots while I was there.
It was great. I love it. And you know, you
get to experience people that want to experience you, so
that's that's the coolest part of it all.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yeah, we only go there twice a year now
two and that's the biggest week in Nashville's week there
for the largest music festival in the world. So busy again.
I'm like you, I want to shop a little bit
more this year. I did buy some boots last year
too at the one downtown for that that by two
pair get one pair free or whatever it was, by
one pair get two pair free. What other special was? Yeah,
the boot went down Broadway, so that was good and

(02:43):
also just a chance to have a lot of fun
in network and just talk to people. And really after
the work is over, you do get a chance to
go enjoy yourself. So I will get out to some
functions and some some bars and music venues. I'm staying
away from Nissan. No pun attended this year, but crazy
crowd and the parking was was hell last year, so
I'm staying like Amphitheater and some of the bars on Broadway.

(03:05):
And I learned to park your car in one place
and don't move it last year because they got stopped
by a barricade. That is the walking part of it
there too, when it comes almost like a just a
big parade with all the stages, and of course everything's
so close you can walk down there. Hey, let's talk
about your start again to twenty twenty five. These songs
are just fantastic. I can't wait to play them right now.
But it's been going real well for you too. I

(03:25):
know there's been a kind of that change of the
guard thing too, but you've had to stay focused to
keep your mindset on your music. And it all starts
with the new release today for Boots in the Sand,
tell everybody about just your mindset. As we're now well
through the first quarter of the new year.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, I think I started off this year just knowing
that I need to listen to my gut and stop
listening to other people. I was allowing so many voices
to just take over what I love most, which is music.
I mean, that's my artistry. And I was taking other
people's opinions because I felt that they had my best

(03:59):
interest out heart. But nobody has the best interest better
than I do. So I just started listening to my
gut a little more and wrote out a whole album
with some really great, insanely talented writers. Jordan Gray is
one of them who just you know, Amen just came out.
He was a writer on that with Jelly Roll and Shaboozy,

(04:21):
So you know, I had some really cool people in
the room that I was writing with. And I think
also I had a couple opportunities at kurb Word, which
is where I wrote That's the Spirit, which is like
hitting radio waves right now doing really good and yes,
my release today, Boots in the Sands. So it's been

(04:44):
such a crazy ride and a learning experience also, you know,
because you have to learn how to put your ego
aside and allow other people to that are obviously better
than you at writing in the room right there, signed
to a polishing company that you just got to put
some of it aside so that you can really hear

(05:05):
them out. And then when you get the finished product,
you're like, you're right, that does fit. That word was
better than my word, you know. So I just come
in there with ideas and we slapped some songs together
and then they slap on the radio.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
They come to life, no doubt, you know. Speaking of
that show the voice, I mentioned that too at the top.
Such a great run for you on there from that
audition man from the chair turns to everything through the
competition to get through it. So many great things happen there,
great coaching. This was one of those things that was
just you know, kind of happened for you and you
kind of flew through America's vote. Things like that. What
have you learned mostly from getting off that show after

(05:42):
being on it, because people say it's a whirlwind for
being on the competition for that two or three months,
but the real work begins when you get off a
platform like that. For you, that what has that experience
been like and if you look back at it too,
do you still ever contact the coach every now and
then for some feedback?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So I'll be honest with you, it's been kind of
a whirlwind since coming off of the show. You know,
the day after the finale, you fly home the next morning,
they take you on the earliest flight home and that's it.
You never hear from them again. Like literally, you never
hear from them again. You don't hear from any of

(06:17):
the staff, you don't hear from any of that. You know,
you can keep in touch with your publicists or you can,
you know, keep in touch with legal if you need
some help with certain things or certain if you don't
have a publicist, they kind of provide you one, but
they just don't do anything with you afterwards. So it's
been a learning curve of like, wow, I just spent
six months sacrificing my life and what do I get

(06:41):
for it? Well, I get more work and that's what
I'm doing. So Yes, to answer your question, I do
still talk with Reeba. I literally just got an email
from her yesterday. We're talking about my new releases and
stuff like that, and just kind of getting some notes
from her, and of course her favorite thing to say
to me is no notes sounds great, So I love that.

(07:03):
It makes me feel validated, you know. And Reba's just
so sweet to even respond. She's so busy. She's going
to be on the next season of The Voice again,
so the next six months for her is going to
be crazy too. So to spend time to just listen
and tell me what she really thinks it means a
lot to me. So Reba has been an angel, and
I will say walking away from The Voice, that's the
one thing that I can take home with me is that, Hey,

(07:25):
I talked to Reba.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Another role with that too, and also giving you feedback
when she can do at the same time, and the
coaching is so much better. Like so, I'm not knocking
any other reality singing show out there too, but it's
just something about watching that particular show and the coaches
and of course everything they put you guys through wardrobe
and song choices things like that, and really that live
audience feel of it too, and they really teach you
a lot about the music business and what you can

(07:49):
expect while on the show and when you get off, Hey,
tell me about a big mood. I want to know
all about this one. Not sure if we even caught
up with this back in February. I know it's been
a lot since swee Chat and probably since last year's
ces there too, But such a great song too, And
it's those anthems and those big songs that you're all
about every time I say roll, I mean, that's what
you make a song do, from the outset of it
to the middle to the end. It's just a great song.

(08:10):
This had to be fun in your camp too.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Big Mood, Yeah, I think that Big Mood is one
of those. It was just a huge sound and it's
definitely something that says I'm Jackie Roar right. But I
didn't write it. Nico Moon and my producer and Jake
Rose wrote that song and it was pitched to me,

(08:33):
and I was actually kind of not interested in putting
out any music that I hadn't written myself, especially just
coming off the show, like I wanted to show my
songwriter side. But you know, it just kept nagging at me.
It's a really good song and people love it when
I play it live, so I was just like, I'm

(08:54):
going to put it out there and see what it does.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And also I mean, heck, I get to say like
Eco Moon wrote a song and I have it, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It was classic. I love that too, I said here
Friba and here from Miko Moon. When it comes to
a song like that too, well, don to play what
for Jackie roar here on the show again. Check her
out on social media out there too. This was the
previous single to the one uh today And I know
you guys have heard that too. I heard this is
a lot to Jim too. When I actually execute a
good weightlifting move, that's the spirit. Keep going here, it
is Jackie roar here on the backstage past. That's the spirit.

(09:25):
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Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like them.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
More to the.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
I'm lack of fish when already bite. I'm like a
horse when already to run at all right, just drama
side and all right, yeah, will redo night.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Wait roun wait, we ride, we loud wait training pe
pot Russia, puzzer, the getting with there, we can kick
it it. Hey, oh that's a spairit bay. Don't you

(10:27):
get up put that jo geen.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Lit them moonshine in your soul.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Looca.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's the stuff freezing up just to us.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, that's the stuff freezing chess to us. We rob
wait time we ride, we loud, waiting train way part
Usha puffer again with you. We can kick it. Hey,
Oh that's a sperit bad.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
You got that spirit.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
That's the stuff raise a mud chess who lose. Yeah,
that's the stuff raising chis too us.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Wait time rod w waiting train waiting posh.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
It besserm get in with them. We can kick it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Hey, yeah, that's the spirit waited roun wait time.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Waiting around, wait train waiting, passon and get you with there.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
We can kick it. Hey, Kaddy made you've got the spirit? Bad,
don't got the spirit?

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Speaker 2 (12:57):
Of course you make Best twenty twenty five right there,
coming up June fifth to the seventh. There in Nashville, Tennessee.
All the interviews, the Music City Center. Of course, we'll
be out and about in the evening's having a good time.
And I'm finally getting a good chance to go to
a Nashville Sounds ball game. I'm excited about that triple
A the Milwaukee Browers. You mix sports, you mix music,
and I've gone there every year in the summer. It
looks like him for the first time. Good chance to

(13:18):
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really had a feel again back here with Jackie Roar,
the backstage pass out there to wherever you guys find
your podcast and now on iHeart Radio two. Looking back,
I mean, this just was a fantastic song. This and
everything that you delivered. I mentioned about Big mood Man,

(13:39):
but this really was like an anthem if you think
about it, having fun and like that's the Spirit. I
love this.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I actually wrote that at Curveboard with Bobby tom Berlin
and Kurt Gibbs, and they both have written for some
pretty great artists like Diamond Rio and Kurt Gibbs wrote
a couple of number ones for Dylan Scott. So when
I got into the room, I'll be honest with you,
I was pretty hungover because I went out networking the
night before, and you know, networking in Nashville means drinking.

(14:09):
So I was pretty hungover, and I just kept saying
to myself like you got this, girl, Like just come on,
get it together, you got this, and uh, I don't know.
I for some reason, I had like this vision of
like cheerleaders like you got spirit, girln you know. You know,
so I've looked at them and I like kind of,
you know, I had a paper of like song title,

(14:31):
so like when I go into usually a write I'll
have like thing one word lines or something that I'm like,
I think this would be cool to write about, you know,
And I just kind of put it aside and said,
what if we wrote a song called that's the Spirit?
And They're like, huh, like what's the vibe? And I'm
like I want like the same BPM as Dancing in
the Country by Tyler Hubbard, Like I want that same

(14:53):
you know, beats per minute and just kind of up beat,
really anthemy, and they're like, all right, let's get to
work on. So Kurt started a beat and we just
started writing and it just like literally within thirty minutes,
it was pretty much done. Like we just were recording
the stuff that needed to go into it vocally and
all that. So and then Bobby is just like, man,
I thought for sure, like we were going to come

(15:16):
in here and write like this emotional, deep feeling song,
and you just blew me away with this because this
is way cooler than I ever thought we were gonna
do today. So at least I got like the thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
You know, we need to make some calls to some
of these minor league teams and like some of these
professional sports teams and have this played like over the
loudspeaker at a stadium or something, because it's just it's
an anthem. I mean, that's like competitive sports songs. If
I can help make some calls, I'd love to do it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
That would be great. Yes, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I know.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I went to my first hockey game in Tennessee and
I was like, I'm like, they're playing against New Jersey
and I was like, God, they actually have live music,
live bands playing in between the quarters and stuff, and
I thought that was so freaking cool, Like how do
I get there? I want to do that, you know.
So yeah, Vince Gill was in the crowd and they

(16:09):
were playing his music too. I'm like, God, I need
I need to get somewhere with this.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the intervention stuff of the period. They always have
some great music out there too. You discover new artists.
You sitting there, actually went to the first one during CRS.
So I got to a Pritz game, which was a
lot of fun with a good friend of mine out
there too, and we had a good time. Those are fun,
fun games and a chance to go back and always
experience those, uh in that winter spring type thing with
CRS is always a fun thing. Hey, I know we
talked about this one for a high heel high. I

(16:36):
love saying that triple H right there too. Not no
pun intending with wrestling right there, but uh, really cool
to kind of see the picture and the photo will
come alive with this And you mentioned kind of putting
those those boots on or those high heels and you know,
kicking them up. There's such another fun anthem you got here?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, that one's more of a cheater anthem. Yeah, it's
more about like you are going out for high heel high,
like you're gonna go get high on that other chick's
heels basically. And I didn't write that one either. That
one was written by Leanna James, Bonnie Oh Gosh, Mollie Reid,

(17:14):
and Bonnie man I I can't remember her last name
right now, but they wrote it. And I was trying
to put together an EP. I wanted something similar to
Bad Habit, which I did write with Leanna, and Leanna
was like, I actually have this song that I've been
sitting on and I think this might fit your EP.

(17:36):
And when she showed it to me, I was like, yeah,
let's put that one on because I didn't want to
have to rewrite four other songs that I was contemplating
on putting on the EP, which needed some help. So
I was like, this one's already done. Let's just put
this one on there like we had a deadline, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I always make this for the songs, Like I said,
come to life too. How's the family doing day? Like
I said, the kids and kind of a joined things,
all that good stuff there too. How's the family?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Well, this morning my daughter woke up with a fever,
so she did not go to school today. She's being
so kind to be very quiet on the couch while
I do this interview. And you know, that's just mom roll.
I got a show tonight that I got to do,
and I got to figure out what to do with
my kids so I can fulfill my contract. And you know,

(18:23):
it's just it's it's a whirlwind. When you're a mom
and you're a business woman. You got to get things
done no matter what. Even if I'm gonna have to
take her with me and set her up a cot
in the green room, that's what's just going to have
to happen, quarantine in it.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Other than that, you know, I'm engaged now.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know, my.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Stepdaughter's doing awesome and things are just going good. Summer's
about to hit, so we've got some vacation coming up,
and I'm just relieved to have some vacation because I
am all work, all business all the time, and yeah,
I need a balance.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I need to just reset That's what I've had to
do too, Like I said, reset that and find that
balance between work and of course so leisure out there
too at the same time. Again, now give her a
follow out there too, Jackie Roar across all the social media.
We're gonna play the new one now too. It just
came out today, Yes today, no doubt about it too.
As we approached June. Coming up here Boots in the
Sand my summer anthem beat song too as well. We'll

(19:15):
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put them on, go sit in the sand.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Here we go, pull up, I stand you cups, y'all.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hit the cool the back of the chuck, turn up
speakers on ten, sun on skin salty and the wind.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
For the time to go out stream of soft right now?
How know about Youber?

Speaker 6 (19:55):
How about I get you?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
TIB's been long my day's feeling it.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm bride in.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
These waves for me.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Tell yeah, it sounds like the plan.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Catch me if again, I ain't gonna know what about
that job. Let the beg drops.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Take go and stop all day all night.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Sometime jammers fan say, ain't no no time lying, I'm
just on that good time.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I ain't got no rewind on we in the real time.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
I know it was spending on.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
My day's feeling in bride in these ways for you, Telly,
sounds like the plan.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Catch me if again, I ain't got know what about
that job. Let the beg drops take.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Going and stop all day all night. Someatap Champers b
said save.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
All day all night.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Some mea tame Champers don't said say.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Holiday all night.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Somena tip Champs pep saying say I.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Know who's spending all my days?

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Tell your home no back a lamb.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Catch me if you can. It's about that time.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
That could be dropped eight ball stop holiday home night.
Some time Champers got to say a sad.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Holiday home night.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Sometime champs got to say a.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Say holiday all night.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Some time champs saying say I know who's.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Been all my day? Feeling un around in these ways home,
I know who's.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Spending all my days.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
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(23:07):
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I love this one because it's such a fun time
to do this. I've seen some videos and the clips
you've posted to and I'm sure there's gonna be a
music video if there's not already too, because this is
a lot of fun to really see you put those
boots on, you get on the sandy beach out there too,
and you have fun with this one right, Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yes, this one I wrote with Chris Thirty, Rice Macky,
Daniel Ethridge, Eli Wheeler, and David Tolliver. And I I
gotta tell you, first of all, David is hilarious. I
had the best time writing with him and joking about
pop tarts than I have e ever had in my

(24:11):
entire life. He is, he's just he gets me. He
gets my sense of humor. So it was just an
easy write and I wanted to do something way different,
like way out of pocket for me, and I thought
this was great because I don't really belt, I don't
really do anything crazy. It's more relaxed. It's more of

(24:32):
a vibe, really old dominion, Canny Chesney, Jimmy Buffett kind
of feeling pond tune. You know, I think it it.
You know, it envelops all of that, and you don't
hear a lot of the female island d type feeling.
You know, you got sugar Land and you got a
little big town and that's kind of what I can

(24:52):
think of right now for you know, two vibe songs
that have to do with by sitting by the water,
you know. So I wanted to do something different, and honestly,
I almost didn't put it out because, like I said,
I was listening to other people kind of say this
doesn't fit you, this won't go well, And then I
was listening back to all my music that I had

(25:15):
done all this past year and the year before, and
my daughter Georgia was in the backseat and she goes, out,
of all the songs that you've written, this one's my
favorite one. And I was like, you know what, then
I'm going to put it out just for you, like
you know, I just wanted to make it feel special,
and I think it's going to do well. I think

(25:35):
it's going to go okay. Anyways, you know, you don't
always have to scream and belt in every single song,
So this is my chill song.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
You don't have to do that. You can just slid
out sing, he said. A phone book a z I
said before the first time we met, I was like
following your path on the show. It was like, you know,
just give her a mic and she can sing anything
in country music or any genre of music for that now.
The one I than your catalog too was learn about love,
tell us all about this one.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Hell, And I didn't write either, you know, I like
to I like to just be honest.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
The the EP I think, uh, I only wrote bad Habit.
I wrote that with Leanna and then I was actually
on still on the voice when this song was pitched
to me by my producer, Jason mader Uh. He wrote
it Molly Reid and Jaden Michaels, which is Jillian Michael's sister.
She writes more like country and country pop stuff. And

(26:32):
you know, Jillian obviously wrote like I got issues, you
got to that one, So I think this was in
her voice by the way, like she should be out
there singing her own stuff. It's like, when I got
that back, I was like, why do they want my
voice on there? But yeah, I love the song. I

(26:53):
heard it and I at first I didn't love it.
I'll be honest with you. At first, I was like,
this is too poppy, this is too princessy. I'm not
that kind of girl. I'm not like a girly girl.
Like I may dress like a girly girl, but I
definitely curse like a sailor. I you know, I talk mean,
you know, I'm I'm a dude, Like, I'm very masculine energy.
So my producer was like, don't worry about that. We're gonna,

(27:16):
you know, man it up for you. So we ended
up putting in some big drums and some big guitar,
and once I got it back, I was like, Okay,
I see what you mean, and yes, I didn't realize
that you know you can change just by adding some
more growth to it, that it would be the perfect
song for me. So I love learned about Love. It's

(27:37):
my most streamed song even though I didn't write it.
It speaks to me. So that's why I put it
on my EP because I have been through some Krabbi relationship,
some Crabbi breakups. I think we all have, so this
is kind of that again anthem. But it's a breakup anthem.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
If we haven't been through it, I guess we haven't
lived the thing called when it comes out to yes, Hey,
when you first got to Nashville, what was that first
even before the show, after the show, anything in there?
When you first got there as an artist? Where was
the first gig? I always wanted to ask you that too,
like the first bar you played the first gig, and
like how many people you might have played in front of?
And were you nervous and could be before the voice?

(28:18):
After the voice? When you first got there, where did
you kind of go for that first live performance with
a full band?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
So I went. I went to Nashville in December of
twenty twenty two, to record my EP before I had
even thought about auditioning for the voice. And then I
auditioned in January for the voice after my EP was done,

(28:44):
and I made it through the next couple of rounds,
and when the EP was finally mixed and mastered and
all that stuff, I had gotten the call that I
was going to be on the show, and I was like,
oh my god. So I called my team. I'm like,
I literally was waiting for one more email to submit
everything for distribution, and it was like hanging and so

(29:10):
I called my team and they're like, do not release
the songs yet. Do not release it, release it after
the show, Like, do not put anything out there. Just
start singing a lot on your TikTok so people could
hear your voice. So that's what we started doing. And
I literally had sat on all those songs, literally all
those songs until after the voice was done. So I
was sitting on for like a good nine well a

(29:32):
year a year. So yeah, the first place that I
had gone to sing I didn't have a full band.
I did a acoustic thing. I mean I had a band,
but I didn't bring the band with me. I did
an acoustic thing at live Oak Live Oque has always
been really good to me. Haysen. I actually met here

(29:53):
in Gaston, Oregon. I was doing an acoustic show and
he invited me to his bar when he if I
ever came to Nashville. And ever since then, I've been
kind of just playing at Live Oak because you know,
we have such a good relationship. But the first full
band opportunity was after the show at Whiskey jam And
let me tell you how cool that room is. I mean,

(30:15):
first of all, Ward just always makes all the artists
feel at home and comfortable and special. He always makes
me feel special, and you you know, you could see
him interacting with every artist. There's no like everybody gets
special attention. If you're getting special attention, you know, and
Ward's been doing a very long time, and so it
was an honor. And not only that, but my team

(30:38):
cam He had set it up that Jamie O'Neill was
going to come sing with me. So it was just
such a cool first time I got you know, I
had my band with me. It just felt really good.
And I don't know, man, Nashville is just a magical
place really because you feel so I wouldn't say like

(30:58):
support is not even the perfect word for it. It's
just like you feel the love. They really really appreciate music.
They appreciate artists, and they mostly appreciate the song writers.
It's a different world. It's not just about the performer,
it's about who wrote that song with you. So I
really love that.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Culture, beautiful culture, and I always say on the show
here too, give those props to those songwriters. Without them,
there is no such thing as artistry, and there's nothing
to create, nothing the same. So you got to create
something from something out there magical, and the culture is
beautiful there too, And so all those songwriters that make
this thing happen, whether it's an artist or just somebody
who signed to a publishing deal, we appreciate what you do,

(31:39):
as the artists appreciate you just as much to us well,
and it keeps us in business here in radio. So
we have something to talk about, which is always good
out here here on the backstage past. All right, So
I got to try some new foods. Somebody's telling me
the other day about this Monell's place. It was like
a home cooking kind of place. It was like your
biscuits and gravy. You sit in a booth and you

(32:01):
meet strangers. You come there and you kind of meet
new people. But they start bringing out a bunch of food.
It's almost like I would say a la carte. Do
they bring out like biscuits and gravy and they bring
out like different types of food. It's a country type
of atmosphere. Home cooking is the word I'm looking for
there too. But when you go, what are some of
your favorite places to just kind of dining, whether it's
a quick meal, fast food, pizza, Like I want to

(32:24):
try this bar taco for a lot of the good
things about that too. I'm not trying to get but
where do you like to go kind of on the
town or just get somebody eat when you're here in
town there.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I will be honest, I'm not a fast food gal.
My boys do not eat poorly when we are on
the road. We are always eating really well. They get steaks,
they get angusburgers, they get oysters. I mean, I'm always
Mama is about the good foods. You will not catch

(32:52):
me getting taco bell or anything like that. Like it's
it's good food. Nothing touches this body good. The great
a meat. So I personally love the Southern. I love
going there. They have this filet mignon called the Bell.

(33:12):
It's delicious and I just put it over the mashed
potatoes and garlic mash. And I get oysters. They have
all kinds of oysters. They shuck them right there, right
in front of you. They come in fresh every morning.
So I love the Southern. And I also, I want
to say, I can't pronounce it. Maybe it's Calabasas or something.
There's a Mexican restaurant that's right under the spring Hill

(33:36):
Suitets Marriotte Hotel, and it's a Mexican restaurant, and that
place is so divine for Mexican food. It's probably my
favorite Mexican food I've ever had in any state. It's
literally that good. So I get the Elotas dip, which is,
you know, the Mexican corn, and it's so good. And
I get the steak tacos and I can't like, I'm

(33:59):
actually hungry now.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, it makes you hunger to try all the great foods.
Seemed like another restaurant's opening on every corner there. Yeah,
music city too, All right, let me ask you this question.
It had the music thing never worked out, Thank god.
It did because you're terrific at it, no doubt about it.
I'm not afraid to say that you're on this show,
and of course all the fans out there too. What
other career path were you interested in or would you
have followed another occupation or would it have just been music?

Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I think about this because I'm like if this, like
if for some reason that this doesn't go anywhere and
I'm just done, you know. I'm just like I've tried
for ten years and I'm not getting anywhere, which is
kind of going to be hard because I'm opening for
Kojo next month, so it's like, yeah, right, But I
just said I've always fantasized being a lawyer, which is

(34:48):
like a really weird thing, but I think it fits
in with my stubbornness and like wanting to prove somebody wrong,
like if you're in the wrong, I'm going to make
sure you know you're in the wrong. So I think
a defense lawyer would be something that I could do
really well because I would be defending somebody and you know,

(35:11):
like telling them that they're wrong, like this person's innocent,
you know. But it could also be a really good
prosecution at Bulayer I mean, I think I might be
even better than that. But also, you know, the weirdest
thing is I always wanted to be a chef. I
just don't want to smell like a chef. You know,
when you cook all day, the food just clings to
you and then you think like you've been boiling onions

(35:34):
all day. So I don't know, man, I think it's
just music.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
You're damn good at it too. Congratulations. Always going to
mention that too. Opening for Coojo next month. Always a
fun time there for a guy who began here in
Texas and we saw his career blow up right before
our eyes. And I was covering that guy way way
back in two thousand and Lord eight nine tim somewhere
in there before he really blew up Huntsville, Texas. And
of course out there he never forgets his roots and
where he came from. All that genuine music. And I

(36:01):
know superstar and the female category is going to be
you one day looking up, going yep, she's a CM
and CMA nominated there when it comes to these categories
all out there too as well. The great Jackie Roll
here give her a follow Jackie Roller dot com. Boots
in the Sand the current single across all the DSPs
out there for streaming, and give her a like out
there across all these social media. I'll be sad to
not see you at CM a week. I'm sorry I

(36:23):
can't hang around to the HOD week after that. But
there will be a time. I'll have my studio in
Nashville one day doing the show live. We'll be able
to see each other in person again at future events.
He I appreciate you coming on. Best of luck with
the gig tonight, and of course just continuing success going
forward with all these great songs in your career, no doubt, man.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thank you so much, Brandon before I go, because it's
gonna eat me alive if I don't say it. It
was Bonnie Baker, that's her name, Bonnie Baker, Lee and
Leanna James McCollum for the writers on IL.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
There you go give them.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I gotta give them their you know, Fowers, So yes,
thank you so much for having me on the show.
Thank you for letting me express myself and getting behind
the scenes with me, because you know, I think that's
the important thing. I want people to know. It's not
just something that you know that happens you really got
to work for it. And this is not an easy industry,

(37:17):
and it might seem like we're always on the up
and up, but that's that's the persona that we have
to put on to make you know, people really understand
that we love doing what we love. But when you're
in the grind of it, sometimes it's it's pretty depressing.
So you've got to be strong, you know. And you know,
when I get to speak with you and talk to
you about it, it's always a good mood. So thank

(37:37):
you for just helping me express myself in the best
way that could be in the best light. You're so
good at what you do and you make us artists
feel appreciated, So thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
You got it right back at you too, And of
course it is the music business called for that reason too.
Out there too, and like I said, you got to
stay only up and up out there too, and all
the challenges we face every day in every line of
work too. We just try to have a little fun here.
It just create some entertainment on the backstage. Pass back
with more here too. One more show to go for
next week and then we hit Nashville coming up there
June fourth, to the eighth, the live at the Great

(38:08):
o Opry coming up the eighth on that Sunday, backstage
for the forty third annual Sunday Morning Country. You can
catch all the broadcast live on the social media and
of course out there two on the radio stations KYBA
ninety eight point one, your Bay Area Broadcasting Network, and
our friends at KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine
percented by all about r v's and our friends over
there at the Kaden Gordon Show dot Com, Today's Best

(38:28):
Country Mix, more great shows coming up, and music across
all the affiliates and on iHeartRadio. Till then, God bless,
take care, We'll see you soon.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Hey y'all, this is Nashville recording artist Shalin and you're
listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on True Country
KKTC ninety nine point nine and KYBN ninety eight point one,
your Bay Area Broadcasting Network,
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