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January 17, 2025 42 mins
The one and only Kristian Bush eats, lives and breathes the music industry and we had the chance to catch up with the multi-talented singer, songwriter and producer. Kristian is one half of the duo group Sugarland and is working on some new projects for 2025! Tune in to hear more! 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey all, this is national recording artist Christian Bush and
you're listening to the Backstage Past Podcast, powered by the
Sports Guys Podcast dot Com, exclusively on KKTC True Country
ninety nine point nine.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And welcome inside the Backstage Past. Here, Brandon Morel, Caden
Gordon Here. We're powered by the Sports Guys Podcast dot
com and presented by our friends at the Caden Gordon
Show dot Com. Today's best country mix exclusive KKTC True
Country ninety nine point nine. Happy Martin Luther King Weekends.
Everybody out there too as well, and please to have
one of the all time greats here to do this.
He's worn those shoes as a writer, producer, a performer.

(00:36):
He's done it all. And the one day, guess what
it's gonna be the Country Music Hall of Fame for
him out there too as well. And they've won many
awards out there, the world renowned group Sugarland. Please to
have one half of them right there with us today,
the great Christian Bush here on the Backstage Past.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Christian, how you doing, brother, I'm fantastic. How you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Man? It's going well. Like I said, just a few
weeks out from a country radio seminar coming up there
the nineteenth first at the Omni Hotel in Nashville, Tennessee.
If you're gonna be there, we definitely would love to
see you and do a little catch up refresher in person.
But hey, you got a lot going on. Talk about
just kind of out of the gate twenty twenty five.
Hard to believe we're saying that at the same time
with the new year, and you're not slowing down, my friend,

(01:15):
You get a lot of projects. Talk to our audience
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh my goodness. Well, I'm very blessed for not only
to be still working as sugar Land and then still
working as a solo artist, but also producing the studio.
I'm talking to you from right now here in Atlanta.
Our intern here was Megan Maroney. That's how we found her.

(01:40):
And she didn't tell us while she was our intern
that she wrote and sang, and she told us on
the way out, but she's, okay, can you help, And
we were like with what, and she's like, you want
to listen to one of my songs? And so we
went straight from there and recorded them all here and
Atlanta and were ordered in Nashville, and then of course

(02:03):
that has, you know, started an entire avalanche of production work. So,
you know, I just did a thing with Brooks and
done with her, and then just did a bunch of
runaway June songs. And we've just we've got a lot
going on at the moment. And the new Megamaroni looks

(02:23):
like it starts in a month or so. We're working
with some new artist, Peyton Sullivan, if you ever get
a chance to find her. But yeah, there's just a
whole lot of music and in our world, we're very grateful.
You know, the whole post pandemic music space is a

(02:45):
very different horizon than it used to be. You know
a lot of people who made their living touring stayed home,
and you know, you really had to figure out what
else to do. And you know, the record business is
now your telephone business. So it's a whole new world

(03:07):
and not we just happened to beat people who say
yes a.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Lot no doubt too. Hey, talk about just the ride
that you guys were on there. You know, back in
the day, man hitting country radio, forming this thing with
Jennifer Nettles called Sugarland two one of the best vocalists
of all time, hands down, go ahead and say that too.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Y'all wrote just a lot of great songs, a lot
of anthems that people could relate to to, and a
lot of great storytelling. When it came to Sugarland for
these these country songs, just the years that have gone
by and kind of you ever kind of sit back
and reflect and go, man, you know we're still doing
this one. Two, what a ride it's been. And three.
The songs really just kind of spoke from the heart,
and the public just kind of evolved and said, you

(03:46):
know what, we love this music.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Talk about that for me, Well, it's whenever you go
out and make music, you don't, especially when you start
a band. When we started Sugarman, we started it again
right here. You're not quite sure if anybody will like
what you do, and so you write in on a song.
Typically nobody really says, oh my gosh, that's my favorite singer.
They're like, they call a radio station and they say,

(04:09):
who was that? That's my favorite song? And and so
your songs show up long before you do. In sugar Land,
we realized very very quickly that uh, you know, we
weren't really we weren't from Nashville. So by our first
song being baby Girl. It just sort of opened the

(04:31):
door to the label and the radio programmers to trust us.
You know, no one ever sent us a tell a
song and said will you sing this instead of yours?
Every we wrote, every song we ever sang and the
label didn't hear it till after we were finished with it. Ever, So,

(04:52):
from a creative side, it's always been a The vote
of the audience as always been very loud and very
clear that they wanted us to keep going and do
exactly just what we do. Don't be somebody else. You know,
we never dressed up in other people's clothes to make

(05:12):
our music, and it's great. We were just on tour
in the last three or four months with Little Big
Town celebrating their thirtieth or twenty five or thirty years
of being a band, which is crazy because that means
we've been a band for twenty years. Like it's crazy.
And but you know, they were all these you know,

(05:36):
giant arenas, and it was fantastic. It was fantastic watching people.
It was almost like a time machine. You could in
the middle of a song you look down and someone
singing your song back to you and they look like
they're about forty five years old, but they're acting like
they're twenty five, and you start realizing, oh, that's because

(05:56):
this is when they fell in love with that song.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
No doubt, and it's poked. Like I said, from the
heart too. You go back to one of y'all's projects,
you'd put out their last August, there goes the Neighborhood
with this EP I loved man, Georgia Is Yours And
what a fantastic song this was from you and Jennifer too.
And it's also great to get out some new new
work out there and some new music that really really
catered to those fans. There goes the Neighborhood the title
track and Georgia Is Yours, which a EP is across

(06:22):
all the platforms. Talk about just the body of work
and kind of what that meant for you guys to
put out some kind of refresher and some new tunes.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah. Well, it's always always fun to put out you know,
fresh bake cookies. They're always better.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Than the old cookies.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
But one of the things that most people say, especially
if you haven't been torn in a minute and you're
a legacy act like we are, the first thing they
ask is do they still have it? And then the
other thing they ask is do they look old? You know,
like there's just things that you ask. And what's great
about that recording and those sets of recordings is yeah,

(06:59):
still got it, and no we don't really look that old.
So you know, I'm not old year old. You know,
it's just music has this really wonderful transportive thing about
it at different ages. You know, Sugar Lane, We've always

(07:19):
been honest about where we are. We've never tried to
like act like we were younger. I didn't even I
didn't start the band until I was thirty two. You know,
you got to remember that that a lot of these
artists that you listen, like my friend Kelsey, she's just
turning thirty something after a while, old is she thirty three?
Maybe now? And I was like, you know, I, if

(07:42):
you were me, you would have just started a band.
She was like what I was explaining this to Magamaronia
that I was like, you're not even thirty yet. You
got to remember, like what happens when you turn thirty
two and you decide you want to start a band.
That's what it was like for me. I was in
a rock band before I started Sugarlying. So because of

(08:03):
the honesty of when we are making the music that
we make. People grew up with our music because we
were growing up with it. You know, as we got older,
we were talking about things that happened when we were older.
And it's comforting. You know. You got to trust somebody
that's your favorite artist.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, you really do. Man, Like I said kind of again,
just salivate and create to that music too and resonate
with it too. We got to play one from Christian
rout here again Christian Bush KKTC True Country ninety nine
point nine out there in taust In, Mexico too. Again
a holiday weekend for most of you guys coming up
there to enjoy the Monday. And it's going to be
cold out there too, across the all parts of the country.
So whatever you do, make sure you do it safe

(08:41):
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And you know what, let's just do a trailer hitch
here on the program, right here on the backstage pass
with Christian Bush here again KKTC True Country ninety nine
point nine, Crank it up back in the flash, Teacher, I.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Want to buy you a drink, maybe one for this
whole town. May not have that much, but I don't
mind spreading it.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Le Brown.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Everybody casing something. I don't know why they're running. Take
my time to the finish line, Coach. We all end
up with nothing.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Why, no, why everybody want to die rich.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Run him pain working with down that list, we try.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Everybody tries, tries to feed it into that ditch.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
You can't take it.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Where's he whin you go? You never seen a hurse
with a trailer. You've never seen a hearse with a trailer.
Starting my day, giving away all of my baseball cards
felt so good. By the afternoon, I gave some guy

(10:06):
my car. It ain't about what you're driving. Who we're
about to go, Joe Pine and as I have to
worry about the more time I got post.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
My mind in. I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
You know why everybody want to direct sham.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Pain new plane work you wait down that list? We try.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Everybody tries, tries to feed it into that ditch. You
can't tell it with's he when you go. I never
seen a hurse with the trailer. Never seen a hurse
with the trailer.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
You can stack it, or pack.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
It, or tie it with the big red boat, get
a great big truck, back it all up, but you
can't take it with you when you go.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You can't take it when you go.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I don't know why, no, why everybody want to die
rich diamonds.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Champagne, news of the New Cleans. What could you damn
and try?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Everybody tries tries to fit into that ditch.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
You can't take it with you when you go. Never
seen a nurse with the trail, and never seen a
arse with a trailers.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Hey give it away, Hey.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Give it away.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
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Speaker 10 (12:01):
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Speaker 3 (12:15):
Hey y'all, this is Casey Tindall and you're listening to
the Backstage Pass exclusively on KKTC ninety nine to nine
True Country and towst New Mexico. For more of my music,
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Speaker 2 (12:27):
Com and beck you with Christian Bush, one half of
sugar Land and of course solo artist producer. He's done
it all out there in the music industry, talking some
music out there. Just a few weeks Chet Country Radio
Seminar again KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine in Taust,
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So Trailer Hitch, I love this one when you guys

(12:47):
put this out to in the twenty twenty four I
love the Island version kind of feel to it too
well by this one and my friend song is still
great stories don't they?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh my gosh. You know when Trailer Hitch first came out,
people would call me at home and be like, hey, man,
so there's this song on the radio and you really
should hear it because you would love this song. And
I was like really, and they would tell me the
song is like no, man, that's me and they would
be shocked because they just kind of didn't hear the

(13:21):
back cell on the song, and they were like, really,
and it's just in sure Land. I don't sing lead.
So a lot of people didn't put two and two
together for a long time. So I was a brand
new artist for you know, five or six years suddenly
after having weirdly, you know, like been in the middle
of it and won every award there was to win,

(13:42):
but still be new. And there's a preciousness to that.
There's a real celebration you can make. And trailer Hitch
was always cool because the meaning of the song is
even cooler than the fact that it was a solo song.
You know, no matter how much money you make while
you're you know, doing this thing on earth, you cannot

(14:02):
take it with you when you go, so you might
as well give it away while you can.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I love it too, That's the beautiful thing too. I
love another one that you you know, put out there,
coming up there just a few years back forever now
say yes, we have to really dive into this one too,
because I thought this was one. Do you understand, Christian?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Do you you put two and two together there?

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Have you do? Are you a fan of the TV
show Say Yes to the Dress.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Absolutely, you know what, Hey, Like I said, when you
have to a father of a girl and you have
a wife, you kind of have to watch what they
watch them.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, well that's it's there's a lot of weird like
rabbit holes you can crawl down and when you type
my name into the Internet, and one of the rabbit
holes is yes. I wrote a song that became the
theme song for Say Yes to the Dress for like
eight or ten seasons, and uh great, yeah, and it's

(15:02):
to me like in my heart. It was just like
a a not very good cold Play song, and but
in reality it turned out to be the perfect song
for this television show and for that sentiment, which is
you know.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Hope, yep, no doubt. That's the beautiful thing about it too. Hey,
you know, of all the great songs, back to the
sugar Land side of things, I thought, just I guess
two parts of here. Working with the great Jennifer Nettles,
one of the greatest vocalists in country music of all time?
What's that been like for her? Just you mentioned anything
you guys would put out if you didn't write it,
you had to write it. Before the record label kind

(15:38):
of you know, got the gist of it too. But
I love Settling. I thought that was one of the
greatest tunes for country music. And then when she put
her vocals to what she did, the inflections and everything
she did on that beautiful song Stay. We've got to
talk about those two Setland first and then Stay. And
what it's been like for you over this ride. You
mentioned twenty years to work with one of the vocalists,
Jennifer Nettles all time in the business. What that's been like.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Hi, you know, it's great. I've known Jennifer for a
long time. You know, I try to help people understand
how we know each other. She was the opening act
for my rock band, and that's how I heard her first,
and I was always sort of intrigued by her voice,
but didn't know much about her music. She was younger

(16:23):
than me, and you know, we were out on tour
opening for all these rock bands, so whenever we come
back to Atlanta, that's how I discovered who she was.
And then at some point as that band was winding down,
I reached out to her and said, Hey, starting this thing,
do you want to come audition? And she was like, yeah, sure,

(16:44):
and very quickly I was really introduced to how much
she can control her instrument. You know, it's just unbelievable
what she can do with her voice. And she hasn't
stopped exploring that either. You know, she gets better and better,
just like anybody else. If you practice, you get better.
But a song like Settling, we wrote that here and

(17:11):
what's that song has always been interesting to me because
it's very early in the conversation of us realizing that
Sugarland is a bunch of songs in order of the
arc of someone's life. So whereas baby girl, as I
have this dream, I want to, I want to get there.
There was a song right after that came on the
radio called something More, which was I want to quit

(17:33):
my job because I think that there's more out there
than than what I can see, but I just have
to do it on faith. And then as as you
went further the you got into the next record, and
the first song on the next record was a song
called want To, which if you track it is actually,
you know, her first love. And then the next thing

(17:54):
that happens is Settling, which is the next conversation in
a in a this woman's life is and it's not
necessarily Jennifer. We just we knew we were writing one
person's long story. It's this look if I'm if I'm
really gonna go out and look for a relationship, I

(18:15):
gotta I gotta not sell myself short, because you know,
it's it's it's an easy thing to do too, to
settle for what you what you can have it's in
front of you, rather than sort of holding out for
something bigger. And I see people singing that song all
the time now when we play it live, like top

(18:37):
of their lungs. And it's got a lot of it's
got a lot of my old rock band in it.
If you ever dig back, you know, my old band
is called Billy Pilgrim, and uh it definitely sounds like
an old Billy Pigram song.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Love it too. And there's so many different rides that
thing takes you, all, man, It's like one of the
fastest roller coasters and the best country songs I've ever heard.
Out there again Christian Bush here checking out at Christian
Bush dot com. Of course, all the music out there
we're talking about today available again for streaming and download
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a little bit. I want one of these in my house.
A bar with a pool in it. Here Christian Bush

(19:11):
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Speaker 7 (19:21):
It is.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
This is a bar, a pool.

Speaker 11 (19:52):
It's got on you out of stool in it.

Speaker 12 (19:58):
Bikini tas then round, I can drink, never fall down
in the fall with food in it.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
It's a straw, it's a drinking it.

Speaker 13 (20:18):
And I'm trying not to think in it our yards
by a sonother round, kids to hoping we go down.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
The ball is food in it?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
You Walm Brees and palm trees man.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Even though I look at.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
Sound your sunshine, good time to be standing drink.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
And spending into the bar with fool.

Speaker 11 (21:02):
And there's a soup with a fool in it, and
he's really there's some new in.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Its keel and George floating over.

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Next to me, baby, right where you should be, this
ball with.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
A fool and me Walm Brees and the palm trees man.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
You know I love that sound.

Speaker 14 (21:43):
The sunshine it's a good child.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Stand out and drink and spin.

Speaker 15 (21:54):
Into the barb with fool in it. Let's see going down.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
That's right, it's ball with bo dream is a mean

(22:31):
it is.

Speaker 14 (22:36):
Rick Ball is wool in it and I feeling like
food with the sull the Dragon.

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(24:34):
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
Here.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So bar with a pool in it, and I know
there's an RV park down the road for me that
they're actually blowing up right now too. I'm trying to
remember the name right offhand to but kind of feels
like a bar with a pool. And how did this
come about? And the idea behind this great song? I
love it?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know, it has a lot to do with radio. Strangely,
we were doing in a trailer hitch just and gone
up the chart. And one of the things that happened
is a radio station in the Midwest had decided they
wanted us to go with a couple of the artists
to Camcoon and celebrate with a bunch of their listeners

(25:14):
that you could win a trip to go down there.
And because I had done this before sugar Land, I
understood a little bit more about it. So we went
down a day early and we watched people check in
and as we're watching people check in, we have our
fruity drinks and we're sitting by the pool and that
people were checking in, and you could kind of see
up to the landing where they would they would put

(25:36):
their credit card down and everything, and then they would
look down to where we were on the pool deck,
and then sort of beyond us would be the ocean,
right And this couple walked in to check in, and
the lady, you know, she was obviously in charge, and
she went and she was checking in, and her husband
ran up to the railing and sort of grabbed the

(25:57):
railing and looked down at the pool deck and at
us and the ocean in the distance, and he said, honey,
look there's a bar with a pool in it, talking
about the swim up bar. And we laughed so hard
that we could not not write that song. And I
think we wrote it right there, And now now we

(26:20):
wrote a song about it. People they requested all the time,
and it has now in like the last year year
and a half or something, sadly that Jimmy Buffett has passed.
The Margaritaville parroheads have now sort of absorbed that song
into their world, and I get requests for it all

(26:42):
the time, and they play it on the radio everywhere,
and I was like.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh, that's so fun, We're gonna play it. We played
it right there KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine.
And that's just got to be just a summer anthem
for us, now, Kate and we got to put that
into rotation and tell Shelley about that questions far Away
for Christian what you got? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Absolutely So. My first question to you is, when you're
on tour, is there one thing that stands out to
you that has gone horribly wrong?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
The thing that has gone horribly wrong. Let's see, we
were just on tour with Little Big Town.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, and.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
They one of the we would we would sing our, our, our,
our music, they would sing their music and they would
sing together at the end, and on the next to
last or third to last show, they have this big
sort of reveal where we would walk into this elevator
thing that no one could see us, and then the

(27:47):
elevator comes up and it looks like we're rising out
of the stage right and and we come up and
we sing this song called Life in a Northern Town,
which was an old cover that I convinced us all
to sing at some point, and we get on to
the elevator. It's been working, twenty five shows, been real fine,
and we get on the elevator and suddenly it won't work.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Everybody's panicking and they don't know what to do and
what happens. So Jennifer and I just sort of run
around the side of the stage and just go to
the front. But now all of Little Big Town is
on these like elevated things behind us, waiting for us
to come out of the floor, and we're now downstage

(28:30):
in the middle as if we're it's our show, and
there are background singers. It was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh my god, it's gotta be brightening too. To get
stuck in. They could have pulled out the Christian Bush
EP and just said, you know what, drink happy thoughts.
Where I'm going with this is too, We're gonna have drink.
Of course you can't when you're stuck there too at
the same time, but when you get off, you gotta
drink happy thoughts too. Talk about just that particular song
and how much fun you guys had, because that was

(28:56):
released at July twenty twenty three and so much fun
out there too, with so much any fun songs. And
I love it because, again little umbrellas, you can have
fun with country music in so many ways. And y'all
did Christian with this EP?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, people say the funniest things, man, they just do.
I think I'm out of seen that as a bumper
sticker somewhere on somebody's golf cart. All right said drink
Happy Thoughts, and I was like, oh my gosh, if
nobody has written that song, I need to write it,
and sat down wrote it very quickly. But I just

(29:30):
love that. You know, if you believe that you are
what you eat, then my wish for you is that
you drink happy thoughts.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I love it. There's another one off there too. I
love it because this is something we either kind of
talk about or put into existence every day. But I
love the phrase hardly working and a song off of there,
working hard at hardly working. Off that EP Drink Happy
Thoughts too, had to be fun to put out there too,
because again that's something we think about every day, is
more time to play in less time to work, right.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh man, you know you gotta be dedicated if you're
trying to take a day off. You know, your phone
will follow you if you don't like put it in
the box somewhere.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
That's the truth to it, or if you don't cut
it off to you. At the same time, You've had so
many great this those buzz titles, and I love it.
The fact is because like I said, you're wearing the
arts business and creating really something that you know that
came from you, just really something from nothing to out there.
But the title of this one really stuck with me,
and I think it's something that is going to stick
with people a long time too. And just your your

(30:31):
music out there with that that Billy Pilgrim, I got
to talk about long Net with Jesus because it's had
to be fun and it's it's you with of course
you hear that band you talked about, Billy Pilgrim, talk
about it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeh yeah. So my friend Andrew higher Up and I
had started a band in nineteen ninety two called Billy Pilgrim.
We were signed to Atlantic Records, so if you put
that in time, we signed the same summer as Hoodi
and the Blue Fish. So my room contemporaries are weirdly

(31:02):
Darius again, which was kind of funny. By the time
he got to country music. He was like, what are
you doing here? I was like, what are you doing here?
But Andrew and I I really wanted to put a
Billy Pilgrim song on one of my solo records because
a lot of country fans hadn't really put two and
two together that I was in a nineties band. And

(31:26):
Andrew and ized harmonies were really the center of that band,
and I asked him to pick from my catalog. I
was like, pick a song you want to do. He's like, Christian,
I really want to do this. And I was like, well,
it doesn't sound rock and roll. It sounds more like
folk country or something. And he's like, that's what I love.
I want. I want to do this. And it's a
song that I got to write with Paul Overstreet, who

(31:49):
was a very famous songwriter and it was a great artist,
and you know, he wrote Forever and Ever Amen and
a bunch of songs. But we wrote that song one
after and I just love the If you get a
chance to hear it, it's a really really fun thing
to listen to because Andre and I it feels like

(32:10):
the Everly Brothers or something. Every time we sing.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's just a great Tony of course, Paul over Street
synonymous out there too for so many, like you said,
a great catalog of songs and forever and forever and
ever a man being one of those, Kayden, what you
got for Christian?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Absolutely so? As an inspiring artist. What is something that
you might tell another artist that they need to know
about the music industry?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh jeez, I do this all the time when I'm
producing a lot of times I'm sitting there helping them
with the recording of the song, but also trying to
get in their head and try to help them understand
how this is going to go. The first thing I
tell people is that most folks are lazy, so hard
work will outpace talent every day.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
People who are super super.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Talented sometimes will stay up late drinking because they think
they can just wing it tomorrow, because they feel like, man,
I got this, you know, I'm naturally built for this.
And then they don't really they don't care for it
as often, or they take it for granted sometimes. And
then there are other people who are super super hard working,

(33:25):
might not be as talented as that guy, but you
know what, they practiced that song like twenty times so
by the time they hit the stage at CMA faster
or on the opry or on their big break, they're
not nervous. They know how to do it. They nailed it.
They didn't miss a note. Sometimes the person that's super
talented shows up hungover and they kind of screw the pooge.

(33:48):
And so I try to tell people work hard at this.
This is not They call it a gift because of
the fact that you you are gifted the talent. What
you do with it is up to you.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's a great, great line right there too. That's gonna
be I gotta put that on some T shirts now,
he's right there.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, we need to put that on T shirts and
just go walk around CRS with that.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know. I want to have someone merch person to
put that on the back of the backstage past T shirt.
I want to put a slogan I love it. Yeah,
just it's and I remember being in the coaching business
for a lot of years, there was so many many
things we heard too. But Christian he coined that one
right there too as well. All right, let's have a
little fun to wrap it up. We don't think all
rapid fire. Christian have a little fun things out there too.

(34:34):
So when you guys are I guess not on the town,
you're not having to work as much to go out.
Maybe a place for drinks or just some restaurants out there,
because Nashville has always got some great to hole in
the wall places to open up. I know one of
my favorites is part Taco and some other ones out
there to just kind of, you know, shoot the breeze,
have a little fun, or some of the places you
like to go to kind of hang out and just
kind of unwind h.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I usually go to City House. They got some great
pizza there. Man. If you're really feeling like you want
some karaoke, you can go to Santa's. Santa's Pub is
kind of fun. They always serve beer and that's it
and it can and you sit around and sing songs.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm a longtime fan of both the Bluebird. If you
get a chance to go there, I love to go
because it's the kind of place a lot like Eddie's
out of Here in Atlanta, where you walk in and
you're never gonna have a bad show, even if you
don't know who's playing.

Speaker 10 (35:29):
It.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Put on the list, Kate, and when we get there too,
no doubt about it, No doubt about it too. On
a Christian Bush pizza. Like I'm looking at pizza tonight.
It feels like a Thursday night. It's cold, I don't
want to cook, and uh, you're looking back at it.
It's kind of like, you know what, I'm just gonna
get pizza hut but toppings on a Christian Bush pizza.
And you mentioned pizza at the venue there in Nashville too.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm a pizza machine man. I'm typically a meat guy,
so you know, bring it on just just I would say,
I don't really, I'm the kind of person that doesn't
really mix the sweet and the salty on the pizza.
Some people like to do that. I prefer that more
on my desserts, but I'm a traditionalist. I would live

(36:20):
and just straight up cut Broni sausage like I just
I just meet it out.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Carnivore all the way, no doubt about it. Hey, I'm
all though, compliments your way here too. Not sure if
you're a fan of it too, but I almost say this, man,
the listeners can't see, but you got one hell of
a beard going on right now to I love the
beard man out here. No doubt about it. But you
remind me so much of the way I see you
here on the screen. Again, the listeners can't see it
out there, just an audio land. But I don't know
if you're a WWE fan Christian. I love just watching

(36:47):
wrestling and so one of my things. But you look
so much with that beard, like the great Triple H
in WWE or what used to be.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Triple I accept the WWE that you are offering.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
We see a Christian bush and a w w E
ring like one.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
My gosh, would that be amazing? You know what somebody
should do that. That's a great CRS thing. You ought
to make a question when people start coming through, just say, okay,
if it was if you had to wrestle somebody else
in country music, who would you do and why? And
what would be your move?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
We're gonna yes, I'm gonna take that, write that down.
What's the finish move and wrestle? Well, you know what,
you pose that to me, Christians. So if you were
in a ring, let's just throw it right back at
you too, Yes, what would be your finishing move? Who
would you like to wrestle? In country music?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Well, it wouldn't really matter but well, yeah it would
because it would be fun. I'm a really I fight dirty,
so I would. I would. I would have some sort
of weird move where I pick up the stool from
off the stage and whack you straight across the face,
and I would probably I'd probably use a chair and

(37:57):
I'd do it Morgan walling, just because you know, like
that he did such a weird thing to that chair.
The chair needs to get him back.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I love it. And then like a finishing move I
guess would be with the chair. Would it be like,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Then I would just put the chair like he'd be
obviously knocked out, and then the chair would just sit, yeah,
you know, over him, and I'd sit in the chair
and just sort of, you know, crack a drink or something.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Oh, that's that's gonna be like it. That's gonna be
like the leadoff question.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
That's ther pour one out for the homies right on
his head, right, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Here's one. You may love this one. If Christian Bush,
you'd never become a just a successful musician, what other
career path would you have taken?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Huh, you're gonna love this. I would have probably ended
up as a computer programmer.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Really okay, I love that. It's good stuff right there, dude,
I could see that being very successful with all you've
done for these artists. You are good with technology. You
have to be no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Serio.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Hey, pick your brain on songwriting a little bit too,
because you mentioned too as well, again creating something from
nothing to but those titles to come, and just working
with so many great artists that you've done production for
on these songs at the same time too, what just
kind of makes it from the school of songwriting, take
us through school one on one, from the Christian bush
side of things. What you look forward to and just
either putting it helping somebody put out a great song

(39:24):
or writing a great song. What are those key ingredients?

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I love when that a song doesn't feel forced so
most and it's really true in countries, but it's true
in most music. It's do I believe you as a listener,
And it doesn't really matter what genre like, If I
believe you, Oh my gosh, I'm in And the only

(39:50):
way I believe you is you know, they say it's
three chords and the truth, but I think it's pretty
much Do I believe that you didn't force that rhyme.
You know, does it sound natural that it just sort
of accidentally rhymed when it happened. There's something beautiful about that.

(40:11):
That's one of the reasons I love working on Mega
Maroney is she's just a great writer. You know, she
doesn't miss.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
She hits, like I said, the nail and head every
time too. At the same time, he's done it with
his entire career with all his great bands. Of course,
Sugarland is a great solo artist, a great producer, a
great songwriter, and he's just done it time and time again.
Continue to put out there and three chords in the
Truth and tell it like it is, Trailer Hitch and
of course bar with a pool in it, all the
great songs we've talked about today across the digital streaming

(40:39):
platforms where you guys find your podcast and of course
out there your great country music out there your streaming
devices to make sure you keep listening. Hey, my friend,
appreciate the time. Looking forward to hopefully seeing you there
in person in our booth at CRS. Would be great
to shake your hand and continue success going forward for
both you as a writer, producer, a one half of
sugar Land and of course out through a successful solo
artists would appreciate you being with us and again just

(41:01):
continue success going forward. We'd love to see you here
in a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Thank you. Thank you for playing all my music, whether
I'm producing it or making it myself or or doing
it with Sugarland. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
You got it. The great Christian Bush out there, checking
out for the merchandise and all the great the touring
at Christianbush dot com. Of course, check out sugar Land
out there too on social media and check out the
tour date starting off big here in twenty twenty five,
we're back with some more great artists here, powered by
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ninety nine point nine out through two across all those
digital streaming platforms or wherever you guys find podcasts in Towsed,

(41:35):
New Mexico. And of course, what great me is it
coming up here? Maybe a Christian Bush song? Keep it
tune here too, Stay warm out there with this cold
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see sir.

Speaker 16 (41:51):
Hey all, this is national recording artist Halle Kerns and
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