August 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Nashville Recording Artist Mary Heather Hickman joins us on the show to talk about her new single and lots more! Tune in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey all, this is Nashville Recording artists Mary Heather Hickman,
and you're listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome inside the Backstage Pass. Always a busy day out
there too, full of shows and now almost halfway through
August out there too the Sports Guys Podcast dot com
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business and jazz out of the way. She's back for
another show here too. We caught her at CMA Fest
out there too. At the same time. Mary Heather Hickman
to the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
How you doing, my friend, I'm so good, so glad
to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm so happy to have you here too. We're gonna
talk about all the great music there too. But you know,
I look back and you said something that caught me
at the top too, and I had to really address
it with you. Man. Cmafest was a blur. And it
feels like I can't believe we're already in August? Can you?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I think this summer has just flown by. I'm every
day I'm like, how is it already August? I feel
like it was just cold, like where has the time gone?
And I'm definitely not looking forward to it being cold again.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm such a wink.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So that's a funny story. I came home today tall,
like I said, getting my studio righty or too. Before
I'd noticed, I was like, h VAC power loss. I went,
oh crap, oh no, oh no, And luckily, I guess
it just went off by itself for something automated thing.
So luckily when I back on, I went, yeah, my
house is not cooling. Well, oh, we just replaced the
(02:41):
outside unit. And I started going, why am I not
feeling cool inside my house? Courses raining outside and I'm going, well,
it's Texas humidity down here too, So it's it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I grew up in Dallas, so the Texas heat
is something else.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
For sure. You don't want to be without a C
in the Texas heat, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You do not to. Yeah, but hey, congrats on all
your success. And I know there's I tell I just
knew there was more coming. You're gonna lead this next
group of great ladies doing their thing. Let's start right
there too, because you're right there in this. I know
we talked about this at CMA. Wait, but the queen
of country music right now, Landy Wilson doing her thing,
Priscilla Block, Ashley Cook, Hannah Ellis, Ella Langley, these names
(03:23):
are going on and on. Talk about this female category
and this movement now girl power in country music, and
what this is doing now for artists like yourself, and
what this means now in this you know, kind of
this movement. I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I'm so excited to see a little bit of
a shift.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, back in the nineties, early two thousands, we
had another one of these like girl power moments, and
that's kind of the country music that I grew up
listening to, you know, the Chicks, Martina McBride, Faith Hill,
all those people. So I'm so glad to see a
resurgence of that. I think it's so important that we
are giving on opportunities to women in country music, and
(04:02):
I find especially on the industry side of things, unfortunately
sometimes people make it out to be like there's only
room for a certain amount of women in country music,
and you never hear them saying that about men. So
I'm really glad to see hopefully a continue like it'll
continue to shift that way like all the people you
just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, it's great time to be that female artist to
showcase those skills and like you said, a shift. And
then just this dichotomy now of all the things that
are going on with these great songs, and of course,
great songs make who you guys are as an artist.
And my point is to bring up was about I'm
gonna go back to twenty twenty two when I think
you and I first met and we were doing some
shows out there too. It's the songs that make the
(04:43):
artists that you guys write them, or it's co write
or something like that. But I love this Baptist Parking lot.
I got to go back to this because this was
a lot of fun and the way you delivered it
was like, I got to put this on my playlist,
and I did that talk about just the making of
this and the writing because this had to be fun
to really put this music out to fans, right.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I wrote that with my friend Stephanie Joyce, who was
a great songwriter artist in town, and my friend Alex Schofield,
and I kind of wanted to write when I was
writing Baptist Parking Lot. I love like a good story song,
but I like to pull in elements for my own life.
And where I'm from is a very rural small town
in Arkansas. I also grew up with like very strict parents,
(05:25):
you know. I was in the church youth group and
definitely had to be a little bit sneaky to.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like do the things that I wanted to do back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And so I just like was thinking about that kind
of experience growing up and wanted to pull that into
a song.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I might have been Stephanie that had the idea of
like the back of the Baptist parking Lot and the
way that that just kind of rolls off the tongue
was very interesting to me, so we chased down that
idea and it's still to this day one of my
favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I love performing it live.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think it has also really resonated with a lot
of people that are fans of my music. We did
like a whole music video for that song, and yeah,
just a very very fun time in my career. And
that song also kind of came out right when I
was starting to get some recognition and people were starting
to find my music and that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Kind of thing. So that was a very cool time
in my life.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I I'll tell you where you find your music
out there, social media and Maryheatherdickman dot com. There's a
place you can check out into a few times, all right.
Another one that was just fun to really have you
put your spin onto. And I love the artwork when
it comes down to it. We haven't used this word
too much on the podcast here, Bridges, because I don't
really call that anymore, but yeah, a lot of fun
(06:46):
with this song twenty twenty two. You tell us all
about this one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So Bridges wrote with s J.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
McDonald and Stephanie Joyce on that one too. And my
parents always used used to say, don't get too big
for you briches especially, you know me always growing up
wanting to do music.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
If I was acting a certain way and they'd be like,
you're acting a little too big for your breitches.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I just thought that there's gotta be some way
to take that kind of Southern phrase, flip it and
change the meaning and kind of like make it a
girl empowerment song. Had a lot of fun writing that
one too, and then that one's just really like a
fun song again. Another one that's really really fun to
(07:29):
play live so well, I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And that's the so those having fun with music, that's
one of the best things you can do to deliver
the message across too. We're gonna go back to early
this year, and you know, we continue the conversation all
day long, but I know you guys want to hear
music here on this very thing, the backstage pass. So
February of this year, DMIM on DMNIM Here it is
Mary Heather Hickman on the backstage past KYB in ninety
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Speaker 4 (08:26):
Chrome on the juke box, rains on the bar top,
lipstick on long neck, stuff so on a brand new
pair of boots, Buzz on a butt sign, twang on
a pickup line, smoke, go on your jacket, your hands
(08:47):
pulling on my belt.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Boots, den them on din buckles, rubbing up these boot jeans,
Demi look good.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Let's keeping my mind online. Bang, it's a flame.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
See how you and me your cup from the same cloth.
Let's get this dinner a dinner off twenty two phone close,
tab slipping on out the back, Chevy on the side,
(09:22):
street pockets on the back seat.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You know what that means, diner on dinner. Buckle's roughing
up these blue jeans, Dennie, look good.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
It's keeping my mind on one. Bang it's a flame.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
See how you and me your cup from the same cloth.
Let's get this dinner a dinner all denimot you denim
(09:59):
on me on the same bet. There's nothing den be
between cowboy cuts coming undone in.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
A pile on the slop, Bo.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Denham on Denham Boss, rubbing up these blue jeez DEMI
good X, keeping.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
My mind on one sang it's claim to see how
you and me or cut.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
From the same call.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Let's get this dnim on denim off. Let's get this
denim on denim all.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Denim ow denim off.
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on Denim, this was fun because I love the title
(13:17):
of it. You had double D. We had a song
to day that had a triple D. I had on
the program Diamonds and Divorce Decrees, which is kind of cool.
I felt like Guy Fieri at Triple D out there
for the food show that he does for what Diners,
Drive Ins and dives. So D songs. Yeah, a couple
more posular these days. Tell us about Denim on Denim.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh, It's funny because we just talked about britches and
I was like, am I gonna put out another song
about pants?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But I when I started wanting to kind of look
at putting out a full EP project, I started kind
of pulling in the writers that I really love writing with,
and I wrote this one with s J McDonald and
Britney Moore, and I was just looking for something that
could kind of be the lead single off of the
EP that would be really fun, high energy, but also
(14:05):
kind of have that grittiness and edge that I feel
like is the common thread throughout my music. So yeah,
this song is just about like meeting someone at a bar,
kind of hitting it off with them, dancing, putting some
denim on denim in a way that I think in
a way that most people wouldn't expect.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's a great delivery. I love it up, Timple having
fun with it, love this song all right. We always
said this expression you mentioned britches, and your parents said
that old thing too, and somebody always asked me, well
can you do this? Can you do that? And I'm like, well,
got it looking so I guess I can tell us
all about this one. This song.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
This one is probably one of my favorites off of
the project, because I find like, for my music, my
favorite type of stuff is got that like grit to it,
the kind of like towing the line type of thing,
similar to like Baptist Parking Lot and some of those
other songs. But I I think my dad growing up
(15:02):
had always said something about like I can't maybe like
I've done a lot of things. He said, I've done
a lot of things in some like the Devil couldn't
even think of or something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I was like it just that the way that he
said that got.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Me kind of thinking about how I could pull that
type of idea into a song. And I didn't really
want to use that exact phrase, but I wanted to
pull in that idea. And weirdly enough, when I was
writing that song, we had started with kind of a
different title, but my friend Steven throughout the line live
(15:42):
in my life like God Ain't looking like as a
verse line, and I kind of stopped the rite and
I was like, hold on, hold on, that's the title,
Like that's way way more interesting to me than the
hook that we had originally come up with. And so
we kind of scratched everything that we had come up
with so far and started the song over. But it
turned out to be something that I feel like is
(16:05):
just very up my alley. My friends call me Mary
Heaven when I go out and I'm, you know, doing
things that I would hope God isn't seeing. So it
felt very fitting, you know, like it's always a little
bit of an exaggeration, but it feels very true to me.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's all right, got it? Look at it's yeah, right, well,
good see in a very good way too. All right,
time to play some more music gear because I'd go
down on the list of her songs. You guys, want
me to keep talking. She knows I know her music
very well out there too. In fact, it was on
a playlist in Nashville riding around in the car. Were
trying to find a parking spot for CEM a week
out there too at the same time. And I'll always
find a way to listen to all my great artists
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Speaker 13 (17:38):
I watched your touch your arm, How watched you lean in?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Some do only just good friends? Damn macklos. I smell smoke.
Somebody struck co match, somebody's get it burn.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I think I have to ask as it me or
you or her. I smell smooth. It's building up the room,
cleaning on you, baby, like a bottle of Shep perfuse.
Speaker 14 (18:15):
It's seeming through the door, rolling across the floor, feeling
up the corner. I'm backed into its stinging.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Behind, burning like glass, so thick on there. It's a choke.
Speaker 14 (18:26):
You can try to hide the fire, but you can't hide.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
You can't hide and smoke. This room is heating and
see who you playing cool? If you want to lot
something to sun, I can.
Speaker 14 (18:48):
Too, because I smell smooth. It's building up the room,
cleaning on you, baby, like a bottle of shep perfuse.
It's seeming through the door. You're rolling across the floor,
building up the corner. I'm backed into. It's stinging my eyes, burning.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Like my so big. I'm as choke. You can try
to hide the fire, you can't hide. You can't have smoke.
(19:36):
Smoke like the end of the Lucky.
Speaker 14 (19:38):
Stripe, Smoke like your jacket.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
At the end of the night. Look like a house
fire book, like a lave work book, like the country.
Speaker 14 (19:46):
U can't fight filling up the room, cleaning only you, baby,
like fi profu. It's feeming through the door, rolling across
the floor, building up the corner.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I'm backed into.
Speaker 14 (19:59):
It's am I Bernie l class something.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm sho. You can try to hand the fires, but
you can't hide.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
You can't hand.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
You can try hard, but you can't hard. You can't
have smoke. Thank I smell smooth. U can't hide, you can't.
Speaker 14 (20:31):
Hide, you can't hidie, U can't had slow.
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Speaker 2 (22:36):
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So it's almost like smoke. We got to have smoke
up here in the backstage past, which is great too
as well. And you know they don't take no bs.
You didn't take no bs with a song, right, No,
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I realized, like when I was writing this EP, that
I haven't really put out like a cheating song. So like,
especially from the perspective of the singer, I think there's
maybe in some of my other songs, like mentions of
it from the storytelling perspective. But I got to write
this one with Leslie Satcher and Stephanie Joyce, and if
you know anything about Leslie Satcher, she's written Troubadour for
(23:59):
George Straight, Martina McBride, just tons and tons of cuts,
and so getting to write with her was like very
cool and I feel like I learned a lot from
working with her. But I just like, really love the
style of this song. I think it pulls in a
little bit of like a seventies rock kind of like
Fleetwood Mac inspired sound. And I grew up listening to
(24:21):
a lot of country music, but I also grew up
listening to a lot of rock music, and pulling in
that sort of thing was definitely kind of a new
direction for me, but something that I was excited to
kind of explore. And I'm glad that we got to
do this with the song. But it still has those
country lyrics and the storytelling aspect and all of that.
So this is probably like maybe my favorite song off
(24:44):
of the EP.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think, yeah, I love it. There's some things you
can say and can't sing on these radio shows, but
I'm looking forward to a full length EP. You've started
working on this. Is there a drop date for it yet?
And what's the title of it? Is it smoke?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, So it's actually it's a it's called now, you know,
because the whole idea is kind of like now. Like
I've put out a lot of songs before, but I
feel like this project kind of encapsulates all the different
aspects of me as an artist, So that's why I
went with that title. I have released a few singles
off of it this year. Denim on Denham was the first.
(25:20):
We did one called Enemy God It Looking and now Smoke,
and then the full epi's coming out in September, and
we have two more extra songs on there that people
haven't heard yet, so I'm excited for them to get
to hear those too.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So if I get to this event that I'm being
pulled into in Nashville, I'm gonna have to have Mary
Heather Hickman come out to this charity event.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
If I can, I would love to. I would love
to do that. Yeah, just let you know when I'll
be there.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Owners were going around something yesterday that I received, and
I can connect all the dots and put this together. Yeah,
this is gonna be one of the best events we've
got to be a part of. And I'm looking for
my friends to come out all the great artists like yourself,
and if EP comes out close to that date, come
out and sing a few songs and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Amazing. Hey, just let me know. I'm like anywhere anybody
wants me to sing, you know, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
All right. This was fun last year too. I love
it so much. But these titles talk of Union County.
Let's go there and talk about this. I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, So talk of Union County is kind of like
an homage to where I'm from in Arkansas. I'm from
Eldera to Arkansas, which is in Union County. Like I said,
I grew up in Dallas, but my roots are you know,
my roots are in Arkansas, and I love getting to
kind of bring that into my music. I'm very proud
(26:39):
of where I'm from. Uh, it's a small town. So
like any small town, if there's ever a rumor or gossip,
everybody knows and everybody's in everybody's business.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And I just love that.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I kind of love like the small town trope and
how you can talk about that and in like almost
a humorous way. So we wrote the song. I wrote
that one with Cooper Allen and Stephanie Joyce and I
just that one, like just the the cadence of the
melody and how the how the lyrics sit. It's so
fun to sing. And that one's definitely a fun one.
(27:13):
And also every time I play that back home, everybody
goes wild for it, so I go wild too.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And I still haven't gotten to a Mary Heather Hickman show,
but that's gonna change at some point when I find
yeah where you're playing there to sit front row. It's
okay if I come front rows that.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Okay, absolutely, absolutely come on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's the one out there too, because I heard those
performances and I've seen a lot of the videos, So
she's bad at when it comes down to hey, you know,
in songs they speak so much and resonate with so
many fans, but they really the touch you put on
this one called cold Shoulder. Uh, we've got to go
here because we've all given someone in our life friend,
family member, coworker or something like that the cold shoulder.
(27:52):
And you really did this song a lot of justice.
Talk about this one.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Thanks this one. I this was kind of an interesting song.
This I wrote this.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I had just gone through a breakup, you know, where
a lot of the good, the good songs come from.
But I had I had dated someone for most of
my like young adult life, and I had never really
dated outside of that. So I after that relationship ended,
I kind of started dating people, but I was very
(28:23):
scared to trust someone, you know, not to hurt me,
and I did and.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Was pretty let down. So this one's a very real song.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's very At the time, it was kind of the
most vulnerable song that I had put out, but I
felt like a lot of people could relate to that,
you know, trusting someone to not hurt you, and then
they do and almost like you're left with all these
questions about why things ended the way that they did
and not really getting any answers.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So that was that one.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love that one. You know, the collabs are coming
to form these days with Hey Coon, Gary Levax, and
it goes on and on with so many dear crossovers
now for people who've just dominated one genre of music
and crossed over into another. Talk about this and just
what it means for the industry now too, because it's
not just your neo traditional anymore, and of course it
hasn't been for a long time. The bro country movement
and a little bit of southern rock R and B.
(29:19):
I love it because it's a little bit of kind
of varieties of spice of life, right right.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I love that too.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I love just like we were kind of talking with
with smoke, like pulling in aspects of other genres. And
I think it's very cool that people are kind of
starting to do that.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I would love to maybe at some.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Point in the future work with someone that's a little
bit outside of the of the country scene. And I
think it's cool to be able to blend those sounds.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So I love it too. Yeah, it's what's great. That's
smoke and deliver out there for a lot of people.
And like I said, appreciate you. Let us play it
here on the show, get a little gauge of it here,
and kind of first play here on the backstage pass.
I let's have a little fun too. I know for me,
I'm getting excited about football season. I mentioned high school
in college, jen pro and things like that and what
have you in your household if there's an NFL or
a team in general in sports, or it's a college
(30:06):
when Arkansas is a big college town, there tooes. They
love the Hogs, no doubt about it. Yes, go Hogs.
I'm an Ague fan. Of course. They play each other
week seven eight whatever that is this year too. I
think the game is actually in Fateville the first time.
It's a Yeah, Dallas, the big old Southwest Classic used
to be back in the nineties, which is big, and
they headed at Jerry's World for a lot of years.
(30:27):
So is it the Hogs or what proteins do you
root for in your household?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So it's the Cowboys for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Grew up huge Cowboys fan, grew up going to the
games as a kid. Even when I go home now,
I try to make it to at least a game
a year, which is you know, sometimes I feel like
all the teams I root for break my heart because
I also am a huge Razorback fan too. But I'm
(30:53):
football has always been a big part of my family.
We've all like bonded over our love of the Cowboys,
the Razor Acts. My parents went to University of Arkansas too,
so it's definitely a family tradition and yeah, big big
football fans. I've always I've always loved football. My brother
played in high school too, So.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What position did he play?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He was he was on the offensive line, exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
What I'm like, I love football, but I've got to
be honest, I'm like the least athletic person. My sister
and my brother great athletes, always did very well in
any sport that they were in. I was the first child,
so my dad tried to get me in pretty much
(31:42):
every sport that he could, and I was very successful
at being bad in all of them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But you're graded singing too as well.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like I said, we all have artsy side. I got
that side of the family.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So I'm just gonna gohead and say, and I can
host a radio show, but I can't sing with the flip.
So I got that over some people there. And I
wouldn't even try to sing too if I had the
choice to do it or not. If you weren't a musician,
what other career path would you have taken?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So weirdly, I went to college for broadcast journalism. That's
what I wanted to do. So I might have been
sitting in your.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Seat talk about that too, Yes, you talk about it.
Maybe a possibility of showing off those broadcast skills, because
you're doing great here on the show today and I'd
like to see a little bit more than so maybe, yeah,
I loved.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I always loved news, and I thought being on whether
it be like, you know, the news, or a radio
show or something that would always be fun. Then, you know,
once I started playing all the shows and stuff in college,
I shifted gears a little bit, but I always I
always loved that side of things too, So.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All right, broadcast journalism. In that same.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sentence, I'm also not a morning person, so I don't
know about getting up early to deliver the news. That
that part of it started to make me question it
a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Remember days where I had to do that at four
o'clock in the morning. Fucked, it was bad.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
It was ucky in the morning. I'm a night owl
for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Run through with you too, love my night owls too,
they would say out there, we all stick together too.
I love this music so much. Do H how do
you take care of the pipes the vocals? What do
you do for like a little shot of whiskey or
you can't work a lot of water? Take care of
the vocals.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I wish I could say that I do something, because
everybody's always given me a hard time about it, But
I I really I don't do much. I never had
much like classical vocal training or whatever. I've been singing
since I was little, but never really, no one ever
really taught me.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To sing, So I don't have any rituals.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Usually if I'm if I'm playing a show, I do
like to enjoy an alcoholic beverage just to loosen up
a little bit. When I'm in the recording studio, I
usually drink a diet coke, and I don't think that
really helps anything, But that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's your thing. That's what you'd like to fodick. What
are you getting into food wise now?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Well, for me, it's always Mexican food. Mexican food is
like the top tier always. My family hates me because
when I come visit them in Texas, I want to
eat Mexican food for like five straight days, over and over.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We know a thing or two here, especially Dallas and
San Antonio, and often think, really Corpus Christie, where I
was just a few weeks ago, they know a lot
about good Mexican food here in at the state of Texas,
and I'm with you, I could eat that five days
at long Wi.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I really think if someone said you can only eat
Mexican food for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'd be fine with it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We might turn into a little Enchilada or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, something like that, become a.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Soapa Peda or something like that, you know for people. Yeah,
you're okay with it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Appearance here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay with all this great music again, available across all
the DSPs out there for digital streaming. Smoke the latest single,
the EP coming up in September. If we get to
do an event coming up here over the next few
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guys know that about that on social media. Would love
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come back anytime. You're always a great guest to talk
to and continue successful love to get Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was great to see you again and get to
catch up. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
You got it, Mary, Heather Hickman. Here more great shows
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Speaker 3 (01:52):
How you doing, my friend, I'm so good, so glad
to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm so happy to have you here too. We're gonna
talk about all the great music there too. But you know,
I look back and you said something that caught me
at the top too, and I had to really address
it with you. Man. Cmafest was a blur. And it
feels like I can't believe we're already in August? Can you?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I think this summer has just flown by. I'm every
day I'm like, how is it already August? I feel
like it was just cold, like where has the time gone?
And I'm definitely not looking forward to it being cold again.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm such a wink.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So that's a funny story. I came home today tall,
like I said, getting my studio righty or too. Before
I'd noticed, I was like, h VAC power loss. I went,
oh crap, oh no, oh no, And luckily, I guess
it just went off by itself for something automated thing.
So luckily when I back on, I went, yeah, my
house is not cooling. Well, oh, we just replaced the
(02:41):
outside unit. And I started going, why am I not
feeling cool inside my house? Courses raining outside and I'm going, well,
it's Texas humidity down here too, So it's it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I grew up in Dallas, so the Texas heat
is something else.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
For sure. You don't want to be without a C
in the Texas heat, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You do not to. Yeah, but hey, congrats on all
your success. And I know there's I tell I just
knew there was more coming. You're gonna lead this next
group of great ladies doing their thing. Let's start right
there too, because you're right there in this. I know
we talked about this at CMA. Wait, but the queen
of country music right now, Landy Wilson doing her thing,
Priscilla Block, Ashley Cook, Hannah Ellis, Ella Langley, these names
(03:23):
are going on and on. Talk about this female category
and this movement now girl power in country music, and
what this is doing now for artists like yourself, and
what this means now in this you know, kind of
this movement. I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I'm so excited to see a little bit of
a shift.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I think.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, back in the nineties, early two thousands, we
had another one of these like girl power moments, and
that's kind of the country music that I grew up
listening to, you know, the Chicks, Martina McBride, Faith Hill,
all those people. So I'm so glad to see a
resurgence of that. I think it's so important that we
are giving on opportunities to women in country music, and
(04:02):
I find especially on the industry side of things, unfortunately
sometimes people make it out to be like there's only
room for a certain amount of women in country music,
and you never hear them saying that about men. So
I'm really glad to see hopefully a continue like it'll
continue to shift that way like all the people you
just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, it's great time to be that female artist to
showcase those skills and like you said, a shift. And
then just this dichotomy now of all the things that
are going on with these great songs, and of course,
great songs make who you guys are as an artist.
And my point is to bring up was about I'm
gonna go back to twenty twenty two when I think
you and I first met and we were doing some
shows out there too. It's the songs that make the
(04:43):
artists that you guys write them, or it's co write
or something like that. But I love this Baptist Parking lot.
I got to go back to this because this was
a lot of fun and the way you delivered it
was like, I got to put this on my playlist,
and I did that talk about just the making of
this and the writing because this had to be fun
to really put this music out to fans, right.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I wrote that with my friend Stephanie Joyce, who was
a great songwriter artist in town, and my friend Alex Schofield,
and I kind of wanted to write when I was
writing Baptist Parking Lot. I love like a good story song,
but I like to pull in elements for my own life.
And where I'm from is a very rural small town
in Arkansas. I also grew up with like very strict parents,
(05:25):
you know. I was in the church youth group and
definitely had to be a little bit sneaky to.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like do the things that I wanted to do back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And so I just like was thinking about that kind
of experience growing up and wanted to pull that into
a song.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I might have been Stephanie that had the idea of
like the back of the Baptist parking Lot and the
way that that just kind of rolls off the tongue
was very interesting to me, so we chased down that
idea and it's still to this day one of my
favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I love performing it live.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think it has also really resonated with a lot
of people that are fans of my music. We did
like a whole music video for that song, and yeah,
just a very very fun time in my career. And
that song also kind of came out right when I
was starting to get some recognition and people were starting
to find my music and that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Kind of thing. So that was a very cool time
in my life.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I I'll tell you where you find your music
out there, social media and Maryheatherdickman dot com. There's a
place you can check out into a few times, all right.
Another one that was just fun to really have you
put your spin onto. And I love the artwork when
it comes down to it. We haven't used this word
too much on the podcast here, Bridges, because I don't
really call that anymore, but yeah, a lot of fun
(06:46):
with this song twenty twenty two. You tell us all
about this one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So Bridges wrote with s J.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
McDonald and Stephanie Joyce on that one too. And my
parents always used used to say, don't get too big
for you briches especially, you know me always growing up
wanting to do music.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
If I was acting a certain way and they'd be like,
you're acting a little too big for your breitches.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I just thought that there's gotta be some way
to take that kind of Southern phrase, flip it and
change the meaning and kind of like make it a
girl empowerment song. Had a lot of fun writing that
one too, and then that one's just really like a
fun song again. Another one that's really really fun to
(07:29):
play live so well, I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And that's the so those having fun with music, that's
one of the best things you can do to deliver
the message across too. We're gonna go back to early
this year, and you know, we continue the conversation all
day long, but I know you guys want to hear
music here on this very thing, the backstage pass. So
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Speaker 4 (08:26):
Chrome on the juke box, rains on the bar top,
lipstick on long neck, stuff so on a brand new
pair of boots, Buzz on a butt sign, twang on
a pickup line, smoke, go on your jacket, your hands
(08:47):
pulling on my belt.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Boots, den them on din buckles, rubbing up these boot jeans,
Demi look good.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Let's keeping my mind online. Bang, it's a flame.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
See how you and me your cup from the same cloth.
Let's get this dinner a dinner off twenty two phone close,
tab slipping on out the back, Chevy on the side,
(09:22):
street pockets on the back seat.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You know what that means, diner on dinner. Buckle's roughing
up these blue jeans, Dennie, look good.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
It's keeping my mind on one. Bang it's a flame.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
See how you and me your cup from the same cloth.
Let's get this dinner a dinner all denimot you denim
(09:59):
on me on the same bet. There's nothing den be
between cowboy cuts coming undone in.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
A pile on the slop, Bo.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Denham on Denham Boss, rubbing up these blue jeez DEMI
good X, keeping.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
My mind on one sang it's claim to see how
you and me or cut.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
From the same call.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Let's get this dnim on denim off. Let's get this
denim on denim all.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Denim ow denim off.
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on Denim, this was fun because I love the title
(13:17):
of it. You had double D. We had a song
to day that had a triple D. I had on
the program Diamonds and Divorce Decrees, which is kind of cool.
I felt like Guy Fieri at Triple D out there
for the food show that he does for what Diners,
Drive Ins and dives. So D songs. Yeah, a couple
more posular these days. Tell us about Denim on Denim.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh, It's funny because we just talked about britches and
I was like, am I gonna put out another song
about pants?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But I when I started wanting to kind of look
at putting out a full EP project, I started kind
of pulling in the writers that I really love writing with,
and I wrote this one with s J McDonald and
Britney Moore, and I was just looking for something that
could kind of be the lead single off of the
EP that would be really fun, high energy, but also
(14:05):
kind of have that grittiness and edge that I feel
like is the common thread throughout my music. So yeah,
this song is just about like meeting someone at a bar,
kind of hitting it off with them, dancing, putting some
denim on denim in a way that I think in
a way that most people wouldn't expect.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's a great delivery. I love it up, Timple having
fun with it, love this song all right. We always
said this expression you mentioned britches, and your parents said
that old thing too, and somebody always asked me, well
can you do this? Can you do that? And I'm like, well,
got it looking so I guess I can tell us
all about this one. This song.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
This one is probably one of my favorites off of
the project, because I find like, for my music, my
favorite type of stuff is got that like grit to it,
the kind of like towing the line type of thing,
similar to like Baptist Parking Lot and some of those
other songs. But I I think my dad growing up
(15:02):
had always said something about like I can't maybe like
I've done a lot of things. He said, I've done
a lot of things in some like the Devil couldn't
even think of or something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I was like it just that the way that he
said that got.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Me kind of thinking about how I could pull that
type of idea into a song. And I didn't really
want to use that exact phrase, but I wanted to
pull in that idea. And weirdly enough, when I was
writing that song, we had started with kind of a
different title, but my friend Steven throughout the line live
(15:42):
in my life like God Ain't looking like as a
verse line, and I kind of stopped the rite and
I was like, hold on, hold on, that's the title,
Like that's way way more interesting to me than the
hook that we had originally come up with. And so
we kind of scratched everything that we had come up
with so far and started the song over. But it
turned out to be something that I feel like is
(16:05):
just very up my alley. My friends call me Mary
Heaven when I go out and I'm, you know, doing
things that I would hope God isn't seeing. So it
felt very fitting, you know, like it's always a little
bit of an exaggeration, but it feels very true to me.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's all right, got it? Look at it's yeah, right, well,
good see in a very good way too. All right,
time to play some more music gear because I'd go
down on the list of her songs. You guys, want
me to keep talking. She knows I know her music
very well out there too. In fact, it was on
a playlist in Nashville riding around in the car. Were
trying to find a parking spot for CEM a week
out there too at the same time. And I'll always
find a way to listen to all my great artists
(16:42):
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(17:03):
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Speaker 13 (17:38):
I watched your touch your arm, How watched you lean in?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Some do only just good friends? Damn macklos. I smell smoke.
Somebody struck co match, somebody's get it burn.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I think I have to ask as it me or
you or her. I smell smooth. It's building up the room,
cleaning on you, baby, like a bottle of Shep perfuse.
Speaker 14 (18:15):
It's seeming through the door, rolling across the floor, feeling
up the corner. I'm backed into its stinging.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Behind, burning like glass, so thick on there. It's a choke.
Speaker 14 (18:26):
You can try to hide the fire, but you can't hide.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
You can't hide and smoke. This room is heating and
see who you playing cool? If you want to lot
something to sun, I can.
Speaker 14 (18:48):
Too, because I smell smooth. It's building up the room,
cleaning on you, baby, like a bottle of shep perfuse.
It's seeming through the door. You're rolling across the floor,
building up the corner. I'm backed into. It's stinging my eyes, burning.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Like my so big. I'm as choke. You can try
to hide the fire, you can't hide. You can't have smoke.
(19:36):
Smoke like the end of the Lucky.
Speaker 14 (19:38):
Stripe, Smoke like your jacket.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
At the end of the night. Look like a house
fire book, like a lave work book, like the country.
Speaker 14 (19:46):
U can't fight filling up the room, cleaning only you, baby,
like fi profu. It's feeming through the door, rolling across
the floor, building up the corner.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I'm backed into.
Speaker 14 (19:59):
It's am I Bernie l class something.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm sho. You can try to hand the fires, but
you can't hide.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
You can't hand.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
You can try hard, but you can't hard. You can't
have smoke. Thank I smell smooth. U can't hide, you can't.
Speaker 14 (20:31):
Hide, you can't hidie, U can't had slow.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
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Speaker 2 (22:36):
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So it's almost like smoke. We got to have smoke
up here in the backstage past, which is great too
as well. And you know they don't take no bs.
You didn't take no bs with a song, right, No,
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I realized, like when I was writing this EP, that
I haven't really put out like a cheating song. So like,
especially from the perspective of the singer, I think there's
maybe in some of my other songs, like mentions of
it from the storytelling perspective. But I got to write
this one with Leslie Satcher and Stephanie Joyce, and if
you know anything about Leslie Satcher, she's written Troubadour for
(23:59):
George Straight, Martina McBride, just tons and tons of cuts,
and so getting to write with her was like very
cool and I feel like I learned a lot from
working with her. But I just like, really love the
style of this song. I think it pulls in a
little bit of like a seventies rock kind of like
Fleetwood Mac inspired sound. And I grew up listening to
(24:21):
a lot of country music, but I also grew up
listening to a lot of rock music, and pulling in
that sort of thing was definitely kind of a new
direction for me, but something that I was excited to
kind of explore. And I'm glad that we got to
do this with the song. But it still has those
country lyrics and the storytelling aspect and all of that.
So this is probably like maybe my favorite song off
(24:44):
of the EP.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think, yeah, I love it. There's some things you
can say and can't sing on these radio shows, but
I'm looking forward to a full length EP. You've started
working on this. Is there a drop date for it yet?
And what's the title of it? Is it smoke?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, So it's actually it's a it's called now, you know,
because the whole idea is kind of like now. Like
I've put out a lot of songs before, but I
feel like this project kind of encapsulates all the different
aspects of me as an artist, So that's why I
went with that title. I have released a few singles
off of it this year. Denim on Denham was the first.
(25:20):
We did one called Enemy God It Looking and now Smoke,
and then the full epi's coming out in September, and
we have two more extra songs on there that people
haven't heard yet, so I'm excited for them to get
to hear those too.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So if I get to this event that I'm being
pulled into in Nashville, I'm gonna have to have Mary
Heather Hickman come out to this charity event.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
If I can, I would love to. I would love
to do that. Yeah, just let you know when I'll
be there.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Owners were going around something yesterday that I received, and
I can connect all the dots and put this together. Yeah,
this is gonna be one of the best events we've
got to be a part of. And I'm looking for
my friends to come out all the great artists like yourself,
and if EP comes out close to that date, come
out and sing a few songs and have a good time.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Amazing. Hey, just let me know. I'm like anywhere anybody
wants me to sing, you know, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
All right. This was fun last year too. I love
it so much. But these titles talk of Union County.
Let's go there and talk about this. I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, So talk of Union County is kind of like
an homage to where I'm from in Arkansas. I'm from
Eldera to Arkansas, which is in Union County. Like I said,
I grew up in Dallas, but my roots are you know,
my roots are in Arkansas, and I love getting to
kind of bring that into my music. I'm very proud
(26:39):
of where I'm from. Uh, it's a small town. So
like any small town, if there's ever a rumor or gossip,
everybody knows and everybody's in everybody's business.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And I just love that.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I kind of love like the small town trope and
how you can talk about that and in like almost
a humorous way. So we wrote the song. I wrote
that one with Cooper Allen and Stephanie Joyce and I
just that one, like just the the cadence of the
melody and how the how the lyrics sit. It's so
fun to sing. And that one's definitely a fun one.
(27:13):
And also every time I play that back home, everybody
goes wild for it, so I go wild too.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And I still haven't gotten to a Mary Heather Hickman show,
but that's gonna change at some point when I find
yeah where you're playing there to sit front row. It's
okay if I come front rows that.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Okay, absolutely, absolutely come on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's the one out there too, because I heard those
performances and I've seen a lot of the videos, So
she's bad at when it comes down to hey, you know,
in songs they speak so much and resonate with so
many fans, but they really the touch you put on
this one called cold Shoulder. Uh, we've got to go
here because we've all given someone in our life friend,
family member, coworker or something like that the cold shoulder.
(27:52):
And you really did this song a lot of justice.
Talk about this one.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Thanks this one. I this was kind of an interesting song.
This I wrote this.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I had just gone through a breakup, you know, where
a lot of the good, the good songs come from.
But I had I had dated someone for most of
my like young adult life, and I had never really
dated outside of that. So I after that relationship ended,
I kind of started dating people, but I was very
(28:23):
scared to trust someone, you know, not to hurt me,
and I did and.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Was pretty let down. So this one's a very real song.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's very At the time, it was kind of the
most vulnerable song that I had put out, but I
felt like a lot of people could relate to that,
you know, trusting someone to not hurt you, and then
they do and almost like you're left with all these
questions about why things ended the way that they did
and not really getting any answers.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So that was that one.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I love that one. You know, the collabs are coming
to form these days with Hey Coon, Gary Levax, and
it goes on and on with so many dear crossovers
now for people who've just dominated one genre of music
and crossed over into another. Talk about this and just
what it means for the industry now too, because it's
not just your neo traditional anymore, and of course it
hasn't been for a long time. The bro country movement
and a little bit of southern rock R and B.
(29:19):
I love it because it's a little bit of kind
of varieties of spice of life, right right.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I love that too.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I love just like we were kind of talking with
with smoke, like pulling in aspects of other genres. And
I think it's very cool that people are kind of
starting to do that.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I would love to maybe at some.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Point in the future work with someone that's a little
bit outside of the of the country scene. And I
think it's cool to be able to blend those sounds.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So I love it too. Yeah, it's what's great. That's
smoke and deliver out there for a lot of people.
And like I said, appreciate you. Let us play it
here on the show, get a little gauge of it here,
and kind of first play here on the backstage pass.
I let's have a little fun too. I know for me,
I'm getting excited about football season. I mentioned high school
in college, jen pro and things like that and what
have you in your household if there's an NFL or
a team in general in sports, or it's a college
(30:06):
when Arkansas is a big college town, there tooes. They
love the Hogs, no doubt about it. Yes, go Hogs.
I'm an Ague fan. Of course. They play each other
week seven eight whatever that is this year too. I
think the game is actually in Fateville the first time.
It's a Yeah, Dallas, the big old Southwest Classic used
to be back in the nineties, which is big, and
they headed at Jerry's World for a lot of years.
(30:27):
So is it the Hogs or what proteins do you
root for in your household?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So it's the Cowboys for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Grew up huge Cowboys fan, grew up going to the
games as a kid. Even when I go home now,
I try to make it to at least a game
a year, which is you know, sometimes I feel like
all the teams I root for break my heart because
I also am a huge Razorback fan too. But I'm
(30:53):
football has always been a big part of my family.
We've all like bonded over our love of the Cowboys,
the Razor Acts. My parents went to University of Arkansas too,
so it's definitely a family tradition and yeah, big big
football fans. I've always I've always loved football. My brother
played in high school too, So.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What position did he play?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He was he was on the offensive line, exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
What I'm like, I love football, but I've got to
be honest, I'm like the least athletic person. My sister
and my brother great athletes, always did very well in
any sport that they were in. I was the first child,
so my dad tried to get me in pretty much
(31:42):
every sport that he could, and I was very successful
at being bad in all of them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But you're graded singing too as well.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like I said, we all have artsy side. I got
that side of the family.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So I'm just gonna gohead and say, and I can
host a radio show, but I can't sing with the flip.
So I got that over some people there. And I
wouldn't even try to sing too if I had the
choice to do it or not. If you weren't a musician,
what other career path would you have taken?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So weirdly, I went to college for broadcast journalism. That's
what I wanted to do. So I might have been
sitting in your.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Seat talk about that too, Yes, you talk about it.
Maybe a possibility of showing off those broadcast skills, because
you're doing great here on the show today and I'd
like to see a little bit more than so maybe, yeah,
I loved.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I always loved news, and I thought being on whether
it be like, you know, the news, or a radio
show or something that would always be fun. Then, you know,
once I started playing all the shows and stuff in college,
I shifted gears a little bit, but I always I
always loved that side of things too, So.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All right, broadcast journalism. In that same.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sentence, I'm also not a morning person, so I don't
know about getting up early to deliver the news. That
that part of it started to make me question it
a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Remember days where I had to do that at four
o'clock in the morning. Fucked, it was bad.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
It was ucky in the morning. I'm a night owl
for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Run through with you too, love my night owls too,
they would say out there, we all stick together too.
I love this music so much. Do H how do
you take care of the pipes the vocals? What do
you do for like a little shot of whiskey or
you can't work a lot of water? Take care of
the vocals.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I wish I could say that I do something, because
everybody's always given me a hard time about it, But
I I really I don't do much. I never had
much like classical vocal training or whatever. I've been singing
since I was little, but never really, no one ever
really taught me.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To sing, So I don't have any rituals.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Usually if I'm if I'm playing a show, I do
like to enjoy an alcoholic beverage just to loosen up
a little bit. When I'm in the recording studio, I
usually drink a diet coke, and I don't think that
really helps anything, But that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's your thing. That's what you'd like to fodick. What
are you getting into food wise now?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Well, for me, it's always Mexican food. Mexican food is
like the top tier always. My family hates me because
when I come visit them in Texas, I want to
eat Mexican food for like five straight days, over and over.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We know a thing or two here, especially Dallas and
San Antonio, and often think, really Corpus Christie, where I
was just a few weeks ago, they know a lot
about good Mexican food here in at the state of Texas,
and I'm with you, I could eat that five days
at long Wi.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I really think if someone said you can only eat
Mexican food for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'd be fine with it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We might turn into a little Enchilada or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, something like that, become a.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Soapa Peda or something like that, you know for people. Yeah,
you're okay with it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Appearance here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay with all this great music again, available across all
the DSPs out there for digital streaming. Smoke the latest single,
the EP coming up in September. If we get to
do an event coming up here over the next few
weeks back in Nashville, hopefully in September, We'll let you
guys know that about that on social media. Would love
to have Mary participate in that. Go download all the
music and check out Mary Heather Hickman dot com. And
(35:16):
of course, presented by our friends over at B and
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about to change. Jksuberu dot com and of course kse
Beck Music and are friends at Chandler Marie Music dot com. Mary,
always appreciate the time here on the show. Great continuing
success going forward, and uh we'd love to have you
come back anytime. You're always a great guest to talk
to and continue successful love to get Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was great to see you again and get to
catch up. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
You got it, Mary, Heather Hickman. Here more great shows
coming up. KYB in ninety eight point one, your Bay
Area Broadcasting Network, and our friends at the Sports Guides
podcast dot com, anytime, iHeartRadio Podcasts and THWN dot org.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
Hey y'all, this is Ashlandcraft and you're listening to the
award nominated Backstage Pass on KYBN ninety eight one, your
Bay Area broadcasting network.
Speaker 13 (36:23):
You can also listen on iHeartRadio podcasts and at the
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