September 18, 2025 • 38 mins
It's Throwback Thursday as we were privileged and honored to chat with a country music icon! "Step back in time to 1980, to the pulsing heart of Pasadena, Texas, where neon lights glowed and mechanical bulls bucked. Gilley's wasn't just a bar; it was a universe, brought to life on screen in *Urban Cowboy*. Join us as we relive the magic, the music, and the enduring impact of this iconic establishment that defined a generation."
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Speaker 4 (00:55):
One of the.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Legends of country music, he played piano at an early age,
and of course we had that running in his genes
for music for a long time. Mickey Gilly joined us
here on the backstage passing Mickey, what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Man Brandon.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Let me tell you it's an honor and a pleasure
being on your performance with you today. And things are
looking pretty good to be eighty four years old and
will still being out there on the road performing the
songs for the folks. We've been having a great time
and Johnny Lie and I have been doing the Urban
Cowboy Reunion Tour having some fun with it. And we
started about almost three and a half years ago. It's
been quite a ride for both of us and having
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a good time where I'm in my eighties and Johnny's
in his seventies, but he's still looking for love and
I'm still playing the girls get pretty close in time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's a good thing out there. Of course, we had
Johnny Lee on the program just last fall. Was good
to catch up with him and definitely my prayers are
with him. Of course his family right now too. And
you know, I'll tell you Mickey, you guys has had
a good response on on that tour coming back of
course the anniversary for the Urban Cowboy Tour, and you know,
definitely with all this pandemic stuff going on in his craziness,
I guess personally, how have you guys held up? I
guess where's the tour kind of stopped, although there's some
(01:59):
still some shows out their schedule. Kind of give me
an update on the Urban Cowboy Reunion tour.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, what happened was in March is when we were
out in at Nevada and we had some shows lined
up for uh for California, Nevada, Arizona, and Colorado. And
March comes along and we're getting ready to open to
the riverside in and all of a sudden I get
a call and after having breakfast that morning, the agent
(02:25):
in Nashville call me and said, you can cancel all
the shows.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
And go home.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Uh, you know we're we're moving everything till next year
or a few months in advance. Anyway, To make a
long story short, we didn't. I didn't go back to
work until let's say September, and I got to play
a few shows at the Old Theater in Branston, Missouri,
but it was a very limited amount of people you
could put in there. But I wanted to go back
to work and start performing again. So the only actually
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show I've done was some outside of Birmingham, Alabama, about
an hour and a half out of out of Birmingham,
Oinity to.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Call the city he was in.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
But we got to play one one show this past
Saturday night, and so we're looking forward to going back
on the road when the things, you know, lighting up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Take me back, because remember the beginning of the story,
you know, growing up there in the Houston, Texas or
moving there in the early fifties working construction, and you know,
nineteen fifty seven recording that oo Wee Baby, which was
a great song, and of course I know it was
in a Yo Play yogurt commercial out there.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, a lot of things going for you, you know, chart
and the record is it wrong for loving you just
talk about the history and some of your most proudest moments.
Mickey and country music.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well, I got to tell you that, you know, the
country music fans after Ruin Fuld of Roses hit in
nineteen seventy four, they gave me seventeen number one songs.
And I thought at the time that I recorded Room
Full of Roses. It was a recorded for the B side,
and I thought maybe I might be a one hit
wonder when it is and went number one for me,
but I met Conway Twitty, I joined his organization and
toured with Conway.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Loretta and the Eighties came along with John T.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Bolts and launch Me and Johnny and the Stratuspherece for
our our performances in our career was concerned, and all
of a sudden, all the shows in Vegas, renow Tile
and Landing City opened up, and I mean, we're going,
you know, just ninety and nothing, and so all of
a sudden, you know, they gave me a start of
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Hollywood Walk of Fame, and they get I got to
play for two presidents at the White House. And then
the scary part happened in my life in my career.
They invited me to come to Hollywood do some acting.
I did two Fall Guys episodes. I did two Santasy Islands,
I did two Dukes of Hazards and one Burdic she wrote,
and I got a little part of Chips with Eric Nonstrauda.
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And of course the sound the Urban Cowboy is what
created all that for me and lower the whole. You know,
It's just been a great ride to be my age
and still being able perform and having a good time
for the country music fans.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, talk a little bit about of course, you know Pasadena.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I know that area very well.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Spent some time over there as a high school coach
and also a football coach and a teacher that area.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
The club's doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Half time we talked to Johnny was hanging out at
at Gilly's over there too, and definitely one of the
best spots to film the movie. And of course just
a great great spot out there for people to hang out.
How's Gilly's doing, by the way.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, I tell you what I never dreamed in nineteen
seventy one we opened the club up, that it would
lead me into a situation where we would end up
having my first number one song after seventeen years of
struggling in the music business, trying to follow my two cousins,
Judy Lewis and Reverend Swagger, and he was very successful
at the time. I loaded the whole run full of
Roses hit in nineteen seventy four nationwide and I had
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my first number one song, And then, of course I
wanted to stick with Gillies because I thought that time
I might be a one hit wonder. Helped on to
the club with my business partner missus Crier and low
and my hole. It was a good move on my
part because he installed that mechanical bull.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Can you believe that after all these years.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I followed the darn mechanical bull into the industry and became,
you know, a country music performer on account of the mechanical
bull because Johnson ultimated happened crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What a great movie there, and you know, you think
back to when it was filmed out there at the location,
and of course just John Travolta making that part. So
many great actors and actresses in the movie. Of course
Irvian Cowboy. I know, for you guys, very proud moments.
And I was talking to Johnny there on there too
and looking for Love and just all the great songs
in the eighties and nineties. You know, I think, Mickey,
some of that stuff is coming back with We're seeing
Randall King and Josh Ward and Aaron Watson, Kevin Fowler,
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just to name a few guys out there that are
bringing back the old style traditional country. Thomas Mack who
had on the show earlier today and just kind of
talking to you, you think that's a good thing for
the industry, because I sure do, well.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Absolutely do.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I think that the country music scene changed quite a bit,
you know, over the past few years, and I like
the traditional country music. That's reason why I listened to
a lot to with his roadhass because they played the
old music. But you know, I've always enjoyed, you know,
the music that I grew up with, and it's been
something that that's in my blood. And when I go
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out on the road, I try to do the hits
that I've had, and the people seemed to enjoy it.
The slash performance I did, the crowd was singing the
songs loud that I was singing on the microphone. You know,
they need the neries, So I'm thinking, you know, you
better get it right, son, because they do the song better.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Than you did.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you too about the project
that came out If I Had It My Way, which
was a single that came out this past February. Talk
a little bit about that because you worked with just
a fine folks and a great camp there on that song.
Give me the latest on If I Had It My
Way and did it come out? I guess the way
you guys kind of expected.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Actually, when David Joel asked me if I would, you know,
do the song with him. I said, sure, be glad
to you know, he's a friend and he's a Texas
act And I went in the studio to do the
performance with him, and it was it was something that
he felt.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Real strong about. I didn't feel that strong about the song,
but he did.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And you know, I didn't feel a little strong about
Paradies tonight when I recorded him with Charlie McLean, but
it was number one record for a timesld him.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I said, hey, I'm not I'm not good at picking.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Sometimes a song that's going to be a number one tune,
I said, if it goes number one, I'll go out
of the road with you and sing it with you.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
If it don't, now, I mean we made him run
at it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
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Room full of roses from Mickey Gilly here on the
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if it were yesterday.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Here it is.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
If I center Rose, do you.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Allrever tie you may?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You'd have a room? Hello Rose and Avice a Rows?
Why borrow? Every time that I cry?
Speaker 7 (09:08):
You have a room full of rooms? And if I
took the pedals, I would tear them all. I'd be
tearing of the roses, just the way you broke my.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
If somebody you bel.
Speaker 10 (09:39):
And Blue and you could send a Rows maybe two,
don't send me a room full of rooms, says.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
It's all I want.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
My oh loud, And if I hut the pedals, I
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would tear them all.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The party.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
How they tearing the roses I did, just the way
you broke my heart.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
If someday you're feeding.
Speaker 10 (11:03):
Blue and you could send biros, don't send me a.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
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And welcome back here to the show again. Brandon Morel
inside the backstage pass with the legendary Mickey Gilly talking
a little country music Gillies and of course just a
lot of great songs there, and you know you were
talking a little bit about a room full of roses, Mick,
and I tell you that's just such a great song
for you, and you guys had a lot of confidence
in that tune. He sang with a lot of confidence.
And I can remember just growing up in that nineties
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country era the way that I did too my grandma
on the vinyl records. That song still resonates with a
lot of fans today.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Well, I got to tell you that I never dreamed
that Little Roses was gonna be a number one record
for me in the country music charts.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Because the lady had the joke.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Boxing Gillies asked me when she heard me do a
song on the little TV show that I acquired in Houston.
And I've done this little TV show And I walked
in the club one night and she says she called
me home and she said, today on your show, you
did my favorite song. And I said, what wasn't And
she said she called me maybe all night long. I said, yes, ma'am,
it's a hard an hour ten and she sat there,
she said, that record's out of print.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I want you to record that for me. Make a
long story short.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
I wanted to study a record.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
She called me maybe all night long, thinking that this
is going to be the A side of the record,
right because it was on forty fives A side and
the B side.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I happened to fix the old song Rooms full
of Roses.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I grew up singing that song with Reverend Swagger and
Jerry Lewis, and Jerry had always overlooked it. He never
had recorded that point in time, and so I just
casually turned to the band. I said, let's do the
old song room full of Roses, and they said, as
it go. I played for him on the piano THEYDTT
a little chart on it. I started into the song
and I got about thirty seconds into it and I said,
waiting minute, stop, wait, hold on a minute, and the
basic guitarblesaid, what's the problem. I said, I think it's
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gonna sound too much like my cousin Jerdy. Listen, he says,
who cares? It's going to be the B side and
nobody's ever going to hear it, and lord my hold,
I said, you know what, you have a point, and
I just relaxed and I made their pedge on the
piano and I started into the song. And we you know,
we went through it and we got to cut. We
wanted on it, and uh so I put it back
to back with us. You called me baby on that
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long the radio station flipped it over. I started playing
Room full of Roses and Lord and behold. It was
my first number one record in the country charts, and.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I tell you it led to that second charted record,
a Lonely Wine. And I've had an old vinyl copy
of that too. Back in the nineties, my grandma said,
don't you ever, don't you ever sell these boys. I'm
gonna come back and get you when I when I
pass on, and that kind of thing. So I kept
them in the closet. They ain't going anywhere. I got
the old record player. We just upgraded a little bit
to it. But talk about Lonely Wine, because man.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Wait, wait, wait wait, I want to give you some
some some musical trivia here that you probably don't know about.
You know, you mentioned the oo wee baby and you
says a great song. Actually the song was unbelievably a
bad tune. But I've made a lot of money off
of it.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Let's put it like that, all right.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It's my first working ever made trying to follow my
cousin Jerry. To listen to the music industry bottom line,
you'll play. Yogur company used it for three years in
Alan in a commercial and I played, I played when
I do the concerts for for the people, and they
sent me a total of fifty five thousand dollars. So
that you know that song, which was you know, they
needed a thirty second clip of it, all right, So
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that that's one thing. The guy planned the drums on
that particular recording session was Johnny Bush. You probably didn't
know that, but you know, you know Johnny Bush is
a little whiskey river, you know, and and he's.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
A he's a Texas act, a friend of mine. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And then another musical trivia, I want to tell you
that in nineteen fifty nine and sixty my very first
art record on the national on the charts in the
Houston area was a song called is It Wrong for
eleven You and the guy played the bass guitar well,
actually it was a it was a bass settle on
the recording session was Kenny Rodgers. Lonely Wine came along
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because I found out that Paul Burlin, which was on
the top DJs in the Houston market kN u Z radio.
He loved this song he heard and he was planned
by Roy Orbison. And I heard it on the radio
and I got to think it. I loved the song,
and I got my version of it, and I think it.
You know, since it was on an album, if I
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made a single of it, maybe Paul Bourlinn might play
my version of it, you know. So I made I
made a version of Lonely Wine and uh, and Paul
liked it, put.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It on and started playing it.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
It got in the top ten in Houston, and it
was the chart record for me. So I had two
chart records. Uh, Lonely Wine and is It wrong for
eleven you?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Uh? Was it? Was? It?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Two songs that charity for me. Unto a room full
of roses and long and of course you know it
was my first number one record.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'll tell you what, I'm gonna love playing this from
now such in that music festive mood, Mickey and I
tell you what, don't the girls all get prettier at
closing time? Reach number one on the Billboard Country Charts.
Here this from Mickey Gilly. You're represented by tour Guitars. Folks,
Crank it up.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Again.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I want two, I want to three fac.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
How the girls all get pretty clothes and side b
they all need to gamble the light.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
British stars.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Of the girls all get prettier fools time.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
When the chance starts taking place. Let's the molon ever
refening the ball of angels on the backstreet bars, if
I can read it on the scale from one to ten,
I'm looking ball time eighty four clearadic.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Gy, more drinks and I might swim. I haven't even fool.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
When tomorrow morning come, I waste God what number walking where?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'll never wed anymore?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
And the girls all get.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Prettyers inside.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
The army gambler lock with this song, How the girls
all getting prettyer losing when the change starts sticking fleas,
but the moon moone never reveals a bo angels of
the backstream bons. I don't mean the Brittish shy girls
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at all.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I know Robert Rember even full a park.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
We all fixture and an a girl And look just right,
ain't it funny? Any string away a man be young's
change a way.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
It's not the first time alone at that.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
And all the girls all get pretty heard those that time,
Oh they all begams a lot of.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
The stars, other girls all get pretty heard.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
What was a time.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
When the cheese are sticking place? When the mode never
reveals of the fall of Angels on the back stream?
Fall when I said fallen angels up the back street?
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It was a number one song there, Don't the Girls
All getting Prettier at Closing Time for the legendary Mickey
Gilly here on the program. Of course, it reached number
one on the Billboard Country Charts. And like you said
at the beginning, Johnny, still looking for love and you're
still doing don't the Girls All Getting Pretty at Closing Time?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Do as well? So let's talk about that one.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Great writers and great people in your cat you worked
with on that song and kind of what was the
backstory of that one?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, I when I got the song, I take you
that and I played with my friend content Twitter. I
strive with me at the time. I'll tell the story
in the show, you know, and I said, I said, Conway,
you know he was good at picking machaerial And I said,
what do you think about this song? And play for him.
He listened to it on his bus. Hey look at me,
and he says, uh, I don't think you need to
do this song. And then I said, why don't you
think it's a great song. He says, it's a great song,
but don't you know the de legies buy the most records.
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And I said okay, and he said, well think about it.
You put them down talking about it getting better looking
at the clothes in time. I said, what do you
think about this? My drinking budgies will love the song
because it's a true story. I said, I'm going to
take a chance.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
To record it.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Walked out really good too, no doubt about it. Hey,
I love the story that you told the years back.
And you love city Lights. I mean city Lights was
always one out there that a lot of people grew
up on, especially during that time when music was just
so good back there in the eighties and nineties. Country
talk about city Lights a little bit, and definitely people
still talk about that song today.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well, we were looking for a follow up to I
think let's see I had. If I'm not mistaken, I
think I'd had a room.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Full of roses.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I had overlook at organ will searching for a rose
I had to end up above. And we was looking
for a song to try to follow another number one record,
and the producer kept asking me about some tennis I had,
you know, performed at the nightclubs, and I told him,
I said, well, there's a song that that Bill Anderson
Road called city Lights that could be done similar to
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the way Jerry Lee did another Places of the Time.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
And he says, well, let me get the record.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So we got it and we started messing with it,
and we made several different runs at it with different
versions of it at the piano, and finally we came
up with a with a version that we used for
the record, and it became a number one song for me.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
We later re recorded it and we used a fiddle
kickoff on it, which I like a little bit better,
but the number one version of it was by me
kicking the domics.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Pien Yeah, a really great great job on that song.
And Mickey Gilly here on the backstage pass again presented
by our good friends over at Tour Guitars. You know
I'm gonna go back to one. Of course, with Urban Cowbell,
we talked a lot about it becoming a phenomenon out
there too. But man, you really just hit hit the
nail on the head when you did stand by Me.
And of course that song is I know, special to you.
It went platinum and kind of made that household name
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out there, and you know, I think there's just so
much we can dig into on that one too with
stand by Me.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
But were you most proud of on that project?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Well, the most thing that.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I was really excited about was the fact that the
guy that produced the record on me. I did not
know how the time, how important it was to work
with somebody that produced as well as he.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
His name was Jim ed Norman and and he gave
me eight number one songs.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I mean, I mean right in the road just about
you know, was starting with a room with a stand
by Me from the same time film Derban Cawboy and
I and I had you Don't Know Me. That's all
that matters to me. Head tomorrow that flew for you
up but your dreams away, you know, lonely nights. I
mean I had all these songs at Bingo, I mean,
I was having one song wrapped another go number one
for me, and it had dawned on me, you know
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that this guy was awesome at picking material and convincing
me that I could do certain songs that I never
had thought I could do before. And it actually changed
my life in my career because it took me out
of the realm of the shadow of my cousin Jerdy
Lewis and gave me more of an identity than I've
ever had before. So that's the one thing that I
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loved to appreciated about the factor working with him. I
just got newsed out too long ago. In fact, a
couple of days ago, the PR firm called me and
said they had some record companies in Nashville was interested
in doing another album on Mickey Gilly. I hadn't recorded
anything since the eighties, you know, as far as my
career is concerned. And I said, look, if I can
get Jim ed Norman, you got me. So I made
(25:28):
a contact with Jim In and he said, absolutely, get
work with me. You know, so if we can put
it together again, I might be going back into another album.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
About that.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Man, we get you back on the program, we'll talk
all about that too as well. I'll tell you what
Orange Blossom Special, performed by your great Urban Cowboy band
was a song goes on to earn the Grammy, which
is one of the highest honors out there for the
Grammy Awards. And I know you guys felt something special
with Orange Blossom Special when you guys your your band
played that.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
When A did an excellent job too.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, you know Johnny and I right now, when we
out there and we're doing the roadwork, N opens the show,
I'll come out and do my a little bit and
I do all the songs. I feel like I can
squeeze into my time limit trying to do the number
one songs this host gave me. And then we closed
with an Urban Cowboy Men in which we start with
the Arnboss Special. Like you said, the band want to
grant me for that particular song, and then we go
(26:16):
through the list of songs, you know, down through the
segment of the Urban. It takes me about twenty twenty
five minutes to do it, but you know, we hit
on Hello Texas and could I have this dance and
love look what you did to me and all the
songs that we had, and of course we do look
at for Love and stand By Me in the Sigma two,
But it's all in the tail end of the performance,
(26:38):
which gives it sort of a grand finale, and I
think it's been very rewarding for me and Johnny both
and the people get see me and Johnny on the stage,
you know, doing mambatology babies but beat cowboys, that kind
of thing, you know, with which we did in the
film Urban Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You know, I love the story. We kind of settled
there into Branson, Missouri, and I've never have been to Brandson,
if I could recall, I'm trying to remember if you
was a kid, we probably passed through there. But definitely
your theater has gone through some ups and downs too,
and I'd love to come catch a performance there and
hopefully to catch you guys on this big tour coming
up when it does resume past all this COVID stuff.
But I know you love Branson. A lot of great
things about it out there too, and so many legends
(27:13):
have come through your theater. Just talk about how it's
how it's holding up today. And I know you guys
are ready to get back to work, right absolutely, we.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Were ready to go back to work because I'm still,
you know, out there and having a great time performing
the songs for the for the folks. Ah, don't they
keep coming to see the old man. I'm gonna be
out to performance for him. But speaking about Branson, I
sold my theater and the restaurant that I had for
all those years about three years ago, and they asked
me to come back and do a show here and there,
(27:41):
you know, So I'm doing that. The thing to start
the urban cowboy thing off of me and Johnny was
is when Neil Tilly's got sick, my friend Klay Cooper
called me up and said, I know that few of
your fixing too. You retire, do something something different, you know.
And I said, well, I'm not thinking about retiring, but
I am thinking about slowing down a little bit, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And he says, I need somebody to fill in for
Mail Tillis. And I said, wait a minute. Now, tell
Us is a big star. He said, well you are too.
I said, hey, play people have been coming to see
Mickey good It for twenty something years here and blass so.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
That I don't come to see me. I said, wait
a minute, let me call Johnny if I can get
Johnny to come in with me. If we can do
an urban Cowboy reunion tour, this might work. And that's
how it came about. And it was so successful at
his theater that I said, Johnny one of his checks
and he says, is this all my money? And I
said absolutely. He said, oh man, you put me in
a different tax bracket.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Tax bracket. I love the stories there too. Get Mickey
Gilly here on the backstage passing. You're presented by tour guitars.
You know a lot of artists here on the program.
We talked to Mickey to talk about, you know, getting
into this because they love music and love the passion
for it and appreciation of the great stars like yourself
who have just paved the way for them to have
the chance of today to do the music they love
and to hear all the stories knowing it's it's it's
a tough it's a tough business. It's a grind. I
(28:56):
guess kind of a two party here. What's the best
part about doing what you've done for some years and
what's been the most difficult part.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, the most difficult part, of course was having the
first hit record that happened for me and not knowing
what the heck I was doing. After I got into
the business and I got a little more astute of.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
What was going on.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
At the beginning, I was a party animal, which I
shouldn't have been. I've had a better career, But now
that I've gotten older and a little more wiser, I
think that the things are the rewarding parts of it
is getting to meet some of the most wonderful people
that I've ever met in my life in the country
music field and been able to share with them the
(29:35):
things that they enjoy doing. Is by meeting somebody, getting
an autograph, taking a picture. I mean, it's very rewarding
to me, and and also for the fans out there
that love the artists that they're supporting, you know, And
that's that's that's the wonderful part about being in the
music industry, something I love. And I hope that this
pandemic thing is subsidence so we can start doing that again.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Right now. We've got to be very careful, you know.
We weren't a mass.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We don't go out and do the meet and greets
like we were doing and things of that sort, which
I don't like, but it's the way it is.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Right now. I think it'll change in time.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well I do too, and hopefully we can get out
there to Branson, Nashville and like I said, hope to
see you and definitely you and Johnny back in concert
doing the Urban Cowboy two again. I got to ask
you about the Pioneer Award. Of course, it was presented
by the Branson Area Chamber of Commerce. I know, for
you guys, awards just again, you don't expect them kind
of in the industry, but when they do, it's great
to hear from your peers and of course different publications
(30:28):
out there.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
What did that award mean to you?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, every time somebody gives you an award, you know,
you appreciate and you think thank them for it. You know.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I was fortunate enough to win the Awards Academy Country
Music Award Show, and they've given me different things down
to my career, and every one of them is kind
of special. The most lucrative one I received, I guess,
was a star in Hollywood Walk of Fame, which was
something that you'll always remember if you you know, if
you're if you're a performer or or any kind of
(30:56):
actor or whatever, you know, to get that reward was
a big thinking happened to me. But every one of
them is special and they.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Did a lot to you. The other thing that I
am very proud of this is the fact that I
have my name on a.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Club in Las Vegas at the Treasure Island, Gillies, and
it's something that I treasured very much of the fact
is that they got my name Gillies out there, and
we got two in Oklahoma one and Piccola, Oklahoma one Duran, Oklahoma,
and we also had one in Dallas and got Gillies
out there and it's kept the name brand out in
front of the audience.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
So those are things that were important for me also.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
And I'm gonna go back to nineteen ninety four. I
was just fourteen at that time, and I remember the
vinyl record comes across and she goes, Honey, I bought
you this window again. Put it in that stack, notes
you ever sell it again?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
So talk to me. It was one I love.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's talk a little bit about Hockey Talk Wine because
that was one of my favorites off that record. Talk
to me what was that story behind Hanky Talk Wine.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Well, Mac mac vickory is the one that wrote the
song and when I recorded it. It was an f
tempo looking will get type tune and became a song
that raf Emery on the Populas Country. Every time I
go into the show to do that particular performance, he
was as do a little bit of Honky tonk wine.
He loved that song for some reason, and I kick
(32:14):
in the you know, sweet honky donk wine. In fact,
I ever did it for the end of the film
The Urban Cowboy.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I love that too. And hey, what you guys did
with Troy Payne. I got to talk to you. I
love first of all, the title of its great Two
Old Cats was out there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Two Old Cats like Us. What's the title track of
that album too? I want to talk about just working
with Troy on that project, because you guys had designated
drinker and I don't need your rock and chair of course,
George Jones. So many great songs there, but just amazing.
Two Old Cats came out really good.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Mickey Well, I appreciate you saying that Troy, and Troy
came up with the idea and came to me and
he says, you know, he said, I wanted to I
want to do a CD. He was in the music scene,
real really hot and heavy, and he was a fan
of Micky Gilly and that's how I met him.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
At the bottom line was when he decided he wanted
to do this particular project. He asked me, he says,
which would you be.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Willing to, you know, maybe sing some songs with him?
I said, absolutely. You know, I had no problem with
singing with you, toy.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
If you know.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Uh so we use a little kick in the shows
uptown when he comes out and we do it two
or two together.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, I said, why did you pick me to do
this project with you? Toy? He says, because I couldn't
get George straight. That's why you got if you gotta
put fun at your said, if you don't.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Have a good time, you know what, that's exactly right.
We'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He We love to have a little fun here too.
A series of funny questions. I'm on through out there
a little second we call rapid fire. So hey, whatever
comes to mind, Hey, just throw it out there, no
right or wrong answer. So Hey, during this time, what's
been been some of the favorite TV shows? I guess
programs that you've caught up on.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Usually I watched the news more thanything else. But you know,
I like to watch your ID channel, and I like
to watch, you know, some of those type of shows.
I like what forty eight hours, uh, Dateline and things
of that sort. That's my favorite things that I watch.
I don't I don't have a lot of things that
I I mean, I keep TV on all the time,
but it's just mainly that so to keep my mind
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off of everything else.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Is all Hey of course know in Texas very well
in Pasadena, and of course knowing food real well and
also Branson. What's been kind of the food or foods
of choice during this quarantine period? What have you kind
of gotten into.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Well, I've always liked Mexican food. I like sushi.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I like a comfort food. But my my, my, uh,
I just like spicy food. I guess that's meanly why
I like sushi. I didn't get into sushi until, you know,
back in the in the eighties, but because I didn't
eat that stuff until that time, and all of a
sudden I found that it was you know, sobby is
(34:43):
spicy and you can get starting up with California rules
and I graduated enough to the salmon and that type
of thing.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
My favorite one is a spicy tuna role. That's one
of my favorite ones that you can get, you know,
And a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Of a lot of people don't realize that a lot
of the food that they do at the sushi bar
is cooked.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
I don't realize that. Yeah, you know, I mean I
like it only I don't like anything, but I like
the majority of it.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's it's special to go out to a sushi place
and have a beard and have some sushi.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, just enjoy yourself and time of enjoy That's one
of the foods we try to do at least once
a twice a month in Texas. Here in Beaumont, we
got a pretty good little sushi place right around the
corner from us.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I take you. I mean, I always love Cracker Bell. Now, yeah,
I can't comfort food, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Hey, Cracker Bil is one of the best out there.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Hey, when you get a chance to put down the
mic and of course the guitar and kind of step
away from music. What are some of the other hobbies
that you enjoy the most.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Well, my hobby was playing golf, which I can't do
anymore because by accident I had And the other thing
was flying my airplane. I've got a multi engine rating.
I got an instrument rating. I got about almost eleven
thousand hours of flying time. I even got a commercial rating.
But I lost my medical back when I had in
my accident. I can't play piano any more. My hands
(36:02):
don't work very well, but my voice is holding up
pretty good, so I'm doing quite well. Other than that
at eighty four, not bad. Hey, I don't know how
much longer I got because everybody's you know, passing on.
But anyway, I'm still here.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You're still here and still kicking ass and taking names.
The legendary Mickey Gilly here on the program. Be sure
and check out Gillies dot com, visit the club in Pasadena.
Of course, always get the music if you don't have
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digital platforms? And Mickey tay what It was a pleasure
to talk to Johnny on the program last year. Johnny leed,
of course, best of luck when you guys restart the tour.
I hope I can actually meet you one day, and
(36:37):
I'd love to come sit front row and take my
wife to the Big Time concert one day.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Brandon, we'd love to have you at the show and
all the country music fans out there. I want to
see me and Johnny E. Don't wait too long now
because I'm made you for and I don't know how
much longer I got, but come see us.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
We need to get together and this is some great
country music.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Oh, you got it right, So Nick at Ghilly here
on the backstage pass.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
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on the backstage pass, looking forward to catching up with him.
And then, according to the end of the end of October,
a name that Mickey will know well, Moe Bandy's coming
by the program here and we're going to talk about
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One of the.
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Legends of country music, he played piano at an early age,
and of course we had that running in his genes
for music for a long time. Mickey Gilly joined us
here on the backstage passing Mickey, what's going on.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Man Brandon.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Let me tell you it's an honor and a pleasure
being on your performance with you today. And things are
looking pretty good to be eighty four years old and
will still being out there on the road performing the
songs for the folks. We've been having a great time
and Johnny Lie and I have been doing the Urban
Cowboy Reunion Tour having some fun with it. And we
started about almost three and a half years ago. It's
been quite a ride for both of us and having
(01:29):
a good time where I'm in my eighties and Johnny's
in his seventies, but he's still looking for love and
I'm still playing the girls get pretty close in time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's a good thing out there. Of course, we had
Johnny Lee on the program just last fall. Was good
to catch up with him and definitely my prayers are
with him. Of course his family right now too. And
you know, I'll tell you Mickey, you guys has had
a good response on on that tour coming back of
course the anniversary for the Urban Cowboy Tour, and you know,
definitely with all this pandemic stuff going on in his craziness,
I guess personally, how have you guys held up? I
guess where's the tour kind of stopped, although there's some
(01:59):
still some shows out their schedule. Kind of give me
an update on the Urban Cowboy Reunion tour.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, what happened was in March is when we were
out in at Nevada and we had some shows lined
up for uh for California, Nevada, Arizona, and Colorado. And
March comes along and we're getting ready to open to
the riverside in and all of a sudden I get
a call and after having breakfast that morning, the agent
(02:25):
in Nashville call me and said, you can cancel all
the shows.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
And go home.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Uh, you know we're we're moving everything till next year
or a few months in advance. Anyway, To make a
long story short, we didn't. I didn't go back to
work until let's say September, and I got to play
a few shows at the Old Theater in Branston, Missouri,
but it was a very limited amount of people you
could put in there. But I wanted to go back
to work and start performing again. So the only actually
(02:52):
show I've done was some outside of Birmingham, Alabama, about
an hour and a half out of out of Birmingham,
Oinity to.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Call the city he was in.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
But we got to play one one show this past
Saturday night, and so we're looking forward to going back
on the road when the things, you know, lighting up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Take me back, because remember the beginning of the story,
you know, growing up there in the Houston, Texas or
moving there in the early fifties working construction, and you know,
nineteen fifty seven recording that oo Wee Baby, which was
a great song, and of course I know it was
in a Yo Play yogurt commercial out there.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, a lot of things going for you, you know, chart
and the record is it wrong for loving you just
talk about the history and some of your most proudest moments.
Mickey and country music.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well, I got to tell you that, you know, the
country music fans after Ruin Fuld of Roses hit in
nineteen seventy four, they gave me seventeen number one songs.
And I thought at the time that I recorded Room
Full of Roses. It was a recorded for the B side,
and I thought maybe I might be a one hit
wonder when it is and went number one for me,
but I met Conway Twitty, I joined his organization and
toured with Conway.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Loretta and the Eighties came along with John T.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Bolts and launch Me and Johnny and the Stratuspherece for
our our performances in our career was concerned, and all
of a sudden, all the shows in Vegas, renow Tile
and Landing City opened up, and I mean, we're going,
you know, just ninety and nothing, and so all of
a sudden, you know, they gave me a start of
(04:19):
Hollywood Walk of Fame, and they get I got to
play for two presidents at the White House. And then
the scary part happened in my life in my career.
They invited me to come to Hollywood do some acting.
I did two Fall Guys episodes. I did two Santasy Islands,
I did two Dukes of Hazards and one Burdic she wrote,
and I got a little part of Chips with Eric Nonstrauda.
(04:41):
And of course the sound the Urban Cowboy is what
created all that for me and lower the whole. You know,
It's just been a great ride to be my age
and still being able perform and having a good time
for the country music fans.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, talk a little bit about of course, you know Pasadena.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I know that area very well.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Spent some time over there as a high school coach
and also a football coach and a teacher that area.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
The club's doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Half time we talked to Johnny was hanging out at
at Gilly's over there too, and definitely one of the
best spots to film the movie. And of course just
a great great spot out there for people to hang out.
How's Gilly's doing, by the way.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well, I tell you what I never dreamed in nineteen
seventy one we opened the club up, that it would
lead me into a situation where we would end up
having my first number one song after seventeen years of
struggling in the music business, trying to follow my two cousins,
Judy Lewis and Reverend Swagger, and he was very successful
at the time. I loaded the whole run full of
Roses hit in nineteen seventy four nationwide and I had
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my first number one song, And then, of course I
wanted to stick with Gillies because I thought that time
I might be a one hit wonder. Helped on to
the club with my business partner missus Crier and low
and my hole. It was a good move on my
part because he installed that mechanical bull.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Can you believe that after all these years.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I followed the darn mechanical bull into the industry and became,
you know, a country music performer on account of the mechanical
bull because Johnson ultimated happened crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What a great movie there, and you know, you think
back to when it was filmed out there at the location,
and of course just John Travolta making that part. So
many great actors and actresses in the movie. Of course
Irvian Cowboy. I know, for you guys, very proud moments.
And I was talking to Johnny there on there too
and looking for Love and just all the great songs
in the eighties and nineties. You know, I think, Mickey,
some of that stuff is coming back with We're seeing
Randall King and Josh Ward and Aaron Watson, Kevin Fowler,
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just to name a few guys out there that are
bringing back the old style traditional country. Thomas Mack who
had on the show earlier today and just kind of
talking to you, you think that's a good thing for
the industry, because I sure do, well.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Absolutely do.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I think that the country music scene changed quite a bit,
you know, over the past few years, and I like
the traditional country music. That's reason why I listened to
a lot to with his roadhass because they played the
old music. But you know, I've always enjoyed, you know,
the music that I grew up with, and it's been
something that that's in my blood. And when I go
(07:01):
out on the road, I try to do the hits
that I've had, and the people seemed to enjoy it.
The slash performance I did, the crowd was singing the
songs loud that I was singing on the microphone. You know,
they need the neries, So I'm thinking, you know, you
better get it right, son, because they do the song better.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Than you did.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you too about the project
that came out If I Had It My Way, which
was a single that came out this past February. Talk
a little bit about that because you worked with just
a fine folks and a great camp there on that song.
Give me the latest on If I Had It My
Way and did it come out? I guess the way
you guys kind of expected.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Actually, when David Joel asked me if I would, you know,
do the song with him. I said, sure, be glad
to you know, he's a friend and he's a Texas
act And I went in the studio to do the
performance with him, and it was it was something that
he felt.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Real strong about. I didn't feel that strong about the song,
but he did.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And you know, I didn't feel a little strong about
Paradies tonight when I recorded him with Charlie McLean, but
it was number one record for a timesld him.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I said, hey, I'm not I'm not good at picking.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Sometimes a song that's going to be a number one tune,
I said, if it goes number one, I'll go out
of the road with you and sing it with you.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
If it don't, now, I mean we made him run
at it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
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Speaker 6 (08:36):
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Speaker 7 (08:40):
If I center Rose, do you.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
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Speaker 4 (08:50):
You'd have a room? Hello Rose and Avice a Rows?
Why borrow? Every time that I cry?
Speaker 7 (09:08):
You have a room full of rooms? And if I
took the pedals, I would tear them all. I'd be
tearing of the roses, just the way you broke my.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
If somebody you bel.
Speaker 10 (09:39):
And Blue and you could send a Rows maybe two,
don't send me a room full of rooms, says.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
It's all I want.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
My oh loud, And if I hut the pedals, I
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would tear them all.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The party.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
How they tearing the roses I did, just the way
you broke my heart.
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If someday you're feeding.
Speaker 10 (11:03):
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And welcome back here to the show again. Brandon Morel
inside the backstage pass with the legendary Mickey Gilly talking
a little country music Gillies and of course just a
lot of great songs there, and you know you were
talking a little bit about a room full of roses, Mick,
and I tell you that's just such a great song
for you, and you guys had a lot of confidence
in that tune. He sang with a lot of confidence.
And I can remember just growing up in that nineties
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country era the way that I did too my grandma
on the vinyl records. That song still resonates with a
lot of fans today.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Well, I got to tell you that I never dreamed
that Little Roses was gonna be a number one record
for me in the country music charts.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Because the lady had the joke.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Boxing Gillies asked me when she heard me do a
song on the little TV show that I acquired in Houston.
And I've done this little TV show And I walked
in the club one night and she says she called
me home and she said, today on your show, you
did my favorite song. And I said, what wasn't And
she said she called me maybe all night long. I said, yes, ma'am,
it's a hard an hour ten and she sat there,
she said, that record's out of print.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I want you to record that for me. Make a
long story short.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
I wanted to study a record.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
She called me maybe all night long, thinking that this
is going to be the A side of the record,
right because it was on forty fives A side and
the B side.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I happened to fix the old song Rooms full
of Roses.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I grew up singing that song with Reverend Swagger and
Jerry Lewis, and Jerry had always overlooked it. He never
had recorded that point in time, and so I just
casually turned to the band. I said, let's do the
old song room full of Roses, and they said, as
it go. I played for him on the piano THEYDTT
a little chart on it. I started into the song
and I got about thirty seconds into it and I said,
waiting minute, stop, wait, hold on a minute, and the
basic guitarblesaid, what's the problem. I said, I think it's
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gonna sound too much like my cousin Jerdy. Listen, he says,
who cares? It's going to be the B side and
nobody's ever going to hear it, and lord my hold,
I said, you know what, you have a point, and
I just relaxed and I made their pedge on the
piano and I started into the song. And we you know,
we went through it and we got to cut. We
wanted on it, and uh so I put it back
to back with us. You called me baby on that
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long the radio station flipped it over. I started playing
Room full of Roses and Lord and behold. It was
my first number one record in the country charts, and.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I tell you it led to that second charted record,
a Lonely Wine. And I've had an old vinyl copy
of that too. Back in the nineties, my grandma said,
don't you ever, don't you ever sell these boys. I'm
gonna come back and get you when I when I
pass on, and that kind of thing. So I kept
them in the closet. They ain't going anywhere. I got
the old record player. We just upgraded a little bit
to it. But talk about Lonely Wine, because man.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Wait, wait, wait wait, I want to give you some
some some musical trivia here that you probably don't know about.
You know, you mentioned the oo wee baby and you
says a great song. Actually the song was unbelievably a
bad tune. But I've made a lot of money off
of it.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Let's put it like that, all right.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
It's my first working ever made trying to follow my
cousin Jerry. To listen to the music industry bottom line,
you'll play. Yogur company used it for three years in
Alan in a commercial and I played, I played when
I do the concerts for for the people, and they
sent me a total of fifty five thousand dollars. So
that you know that song, which was you know, they
needed a thirty second clip of it, all right, So
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that that's one thing. The guy planned the drums on
that particular recording session was Johnny Bush. You probably didn't
know that, but you know, you know Johnny Bush is
a little whiskey river, you know, and and he's.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
A he's a Texas act, a friend of mine. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And then another musical trivia, I want to tell you
that in nineteen fifty nine and sixty my very first
art record on the national on the charts in the
Houston area was a song called is It Wrong for
eleven You and the guy played the bass guitar well,
actually it was a it was a bass settle on
the recording session was Kenny Rodgers. Lonely Wine came along
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because I found out that Paul Burlin, which was on
the top DJs in the Houston market kN u Z radio.
He loved this song he heard and he was planned
by Roy Orbison. And I heard it on the radio
and I got to think it. I loved the song,
and I got my version of it, and I think it.
You know, since it was on an album, if I
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made a single of it, maybe Paul Bourlinn might play
my version of it, you know. So I made I
made a version of Lonely Wine and uh, and Paul
liked it, put.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It on and started playing it.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
It got in the top ten in Houston, and it
was the chart record for me. So I had two
chart records. Uh, Lonely Wine and is It wrong for
eleven you?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Uh? Was it? Was? It?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Two songs that charity for me. Unto a room full
of roses and long and of course you know it
was my first number one record.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'll tell you what, I'm gonna love playing this from
now such in that music festive mood, Mickey and I
tell you what, don't the girls all get prettier at
closing time? Reach number one on the Billboard Country Charts.
Here this from Mickey Gilly. You're represented by tour Guitars. Folks,
Crank it up.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Again.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I want two, I want to three fac.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
How the girls all get pretty clothes and side b
they all need to gamble the light.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
British stars.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Of the girls all get prettier fools time.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
When the chance starts taking place. Let's the molon ever
refening the ball of angels on the backstreet bars, if
I can read it on the scale from one to ten,
I'm looking ball time eighty four clearadic.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Gy, more drinks and I might swim. I haven't even fool.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
When tomorrow morning come, I waste God what number walking where?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'll never wed anymore?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
And the girls all get.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Prettyers inside.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
The army gambler lock with this song, How the girls
all getting prettyer losing when the change starts sticking fleas,
but the moon moone never reveals a bo angels of
the backstream bons. I don't mean the Brittish shy girls
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at all.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I know Robert Rember even full a park.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
We all fixture and an a girl And look just right,
ain't it funny? Any string away a man be young's
change a way.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
It's not the first time alone at that.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
And all the girls all get pretty heard those that time,
Oh they all begams a lot of.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
The stars, other girls all get pretty heard.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
What was a time.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
When the cheese are sticking place? When the mode never
reveals of the fall of Angels on the back stream?
Fall when I said fallen angels up the back street?
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Speaker 3 (21:23):
It was a number one song there, Don't the Girls
All getting Prettier at Closing Time for the legendary Mickey
Gilly here on the program. Of course, it reached number
one on the Billboard Country Charts. And like you said
at the beginning, Johnny, still looking for love and you're
still doing don't the Girls All Getting Pretty at Closing Time?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Do as well? So let's talk about that one.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Great writers and great people in your cat you worked
with on that song and kind of what was the
backstory of that one?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, I when I got the song, I take you
that and I played with my friend content Twitter. I
strive with me at the time. I'll tell the story
in the show, you know, and I said, I said, Conway,
you know he was good at picking machaerial And I said,
what do you think about this song? And play for him.
He listened to it on his bus. Hey look at me,
and he says, uh, I don't think you need to
do this song. And then I said, why don't you
think it's a great song. He says, it's a great song,
but don't you know the de legies buy the most records.
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And I said okay, and he said, well think about it.
You put them down talking about it getting better looking
at the clothes in time. I said, what do you
think about this? My drinking budgies will love the song
because it's a true story. I said, I'm going to
take a chance.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
To record it.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Walked out really good too, no doubt about it. Hey,
I love the story that you told the years back.
And you love city Lights. I mean city Lights was
always one out there that a lot of people grew
up on, especially during that time when music was just
so good back there in the eighties and nineties. Country
talk about city Lights a little bit, and definitely people
still talk about that song today.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well, we were looking for a follow up to I
think let's see I had. If I'm not mistaken, I
think I'd had a room.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Full of roses.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I had overlook at organ will searching for a rose
I had to end up above. And we was looking
for a song to try to follow another number one record,
and the producer kept asking me about some tennis I had,
you know, performed at the nightclubs, and I told him,
I said, well, there's a song that that Bill Anderson
Road called city Lights that could be done similar to
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the way Jerry Lee did another Places of the Time.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
And he says, well, let me get the record.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So we got it and we started messing with it,
and we made several different runs at it with different
versions of it at the piano, and finally we came
up with a with a version that we used for
the record, and it became a number one song for me.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
We later re recorded it and we used a fiddle
kickoff on it, which I like a little bit better,
but the number one version of it was by me
kicking the domics.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Pien Yeah, a really great great job on that song.
And Mickey Gilly here on the backstage pass again presented
by our good friends over at Tour Guitars. You know
I'm gonna go back to one. Of course, with Urban Cowbell,
we talked a lot about it becoming a phenomenon out
there too. But man, you really just hit hit the
nail on the head when you did stand by Me.
And of course that song is I know, special to you.
It went platinum and kind of made that household name
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out there, and you know, I think there's just so
much we can dig into on that one too with
stand by Me.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
But were you most proud of on that project?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Well, the most thing that.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I was really excited about was the fact that the
guy that produced the record on me. I did not
know how the time, how important it was to work
with somebody that produced as well as he.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
His name was Jim ed Norman and and he gave
me eight number one songs.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I mean, I mean right in the road just about
you know, was starting with a room with a stand
by Me from the same time film Derban Cawboy and
I and I had you Don't Know Me. That's all
that matters to me. Head tomorrow that flew for you
up but your dreams away, you know, lonely nights. I
mean I had all these songs at Bingo, I mean,
I was having one song wrapped another go number one
for me, and it had dawned on me, you know
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that this guy was awesome at picking material and convincing
me that I could do certain songs that I never
had thought I could do before. And it actually changed
my life in my career because it took me out
of the realm of the shadow of my cousin Jerdy
Lewis and gave me more of an identity than I've
ever had before. So that's the one thing that I
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loved to appreciated about the factor working with him. I
just got newsed out too long ago. In fact, a
couple of days ago, the PR firm called me and
said they had some record companies in Nashville was interested
in doing another album on Mickey Gilly. I hadn't recorded
anything since the eighties, you know, as far as my
career is concerned. And I said, look, if I can
get Jim ed Norman, you got me. So I made
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a contact with Jim In and he said, absolutely, get
work with me. You know, so if we can put
it together again, I might be going back into another album.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
About that.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Man, we get you back on the program, we'll talk
all about that too as well. I'll tell you what
Orange Blossom Special, performed by your great Urban Cowboy band
was a song goes on to earn the Grammy, which
is one of the highest honors out there for the
Grammy Awards. And I know you guys felt something special
with Orange Blossom Special when you guys your your band
played that.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
When A did an excellent job too.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, you know Johnny and I right now, when we
out there and we're doing the roadwork, N opens the show,
I'll come out and do my a little bit and
I do all the songs. I feel like I can
squeeze into my time limit trying to do the number
one songs this host gave me. And then we closed
with an Urban Cowboy Men in which we start with
the Arnboss Special. Like you said, the band want to
grant me for that particular song, and then we go
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through the list of songs, you know, down through the
segment of the Urban. It takes me about twenty twenty
five minutes to do it, but you know, we hit
on Hello Texas and could I have this dance and
love look what you did to me and all the
songs that we had, and of course we do look
at for Love and stand By Me in the Sigma two,
But it's all in the tail end of the performance,
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which gives it sort of a grand finale, and I
think it's been very rewarding for me and Johnny both
and the people get see me and Johnny on the stage,
you know, doing mambatology babies but beat cowboys, that kind
of thing, you know, with which we did in the
film Urban Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You know, I love the story. We kind of settled
there into Branson, Missouri, and I've never have been to Brandson,
if I could recall, I'm trying to remember if you
was a kid, we probably passed through there. But definitely
your theater has gone through some ups and downs too,
and I'd love to come catch a performance there and
hopefully to catch you guys on this big tour coming
up when it does resume past all this COVID stuff.
But I know you love Branson. A lot of great
things about it out there too, and so many legends
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have come through your theater. Just talk about how it's
how it's holding up today. And I know you guys
are ready to get back to work, right absolutely, we.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Were ready to go back to work because I'm still,
you know, out there and having a great time performing
the songs for the for the folks. Ah, don't they
keep coming to see the old man. I'm gonna be
out to performance for him. But speaking about Branson, I
sold my theater and the restaurant that I had for
all those years about three years ago, and they asked
me to come back and do a show here and there,
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you know, So I'm doing that. The thing to start
the urban cowboy thing off of me and Johnny was
is when Neil Tilly's got sick, my friend Klay Cooper
called me up and said, I know that few of
your fixing too. You retire, do something something different, you know.
And I said, well, I'm not thinking about retiring, but
I am thinking about slowing down a little bit, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And he says, I need somebody to fill in for
Mail Tillis. And I said, wait a minute. Now, tell
Us is a big star. He said, well you are too.
I said, hey, play people have been coming to see
Mickey good It for twenty something years here and blass so.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
That I don't come to see me. I said, wait
a minute, let me call Johnny if I can get
Johnny to come in with me. If we can do
an urban Cowboy reunion tour, this might work. And that's
how it came about. And it was so successful at
his theater that I said, Johnny one of his checks
and he says, is this all my money? And I
said absolutely. He said, oh man, you put me in
a different tax bracket.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Tax bracket. I love the stories there too. Get Mickey
Gilly here on the backstage passing. You're presented by tour guitars.
You know a lot of artists here on the program.
We talked to Mickey to talk about, you know, getting
into this because they love music and love the passion
for it and appreciation of the great stars like yourself
who have just paved the way for them to have
the chance of today to do the music they love
and to hear all the stories knowing it's it's it's
a tough it's a tough business. It's a grind. I
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guess kind of a two party here. What's the best
part about doing what you've done for some years and
what's been the most difficult part.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, the most difficult part, of course was having the
first hit record that happened for me and not knowing
what the heck I was doing. After I got into
the business and I got a little more astute of.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
What was going on.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
At the beginning, I was a party animal, which I
shouldn't have been. I've had a better career, But now
that I've gotten older and a little more wiser, I
think that the things are the rewarding parts of it
is getting to meet some of the most wonderful people
that I've ever met in my life in the country
music field and been able to share with them the
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things that they enjoy doing. Is by meeting somebody, getting
an autograph, taking a picture. I mean, it's very rewarding
to me, and and also for the fans out there
that love the artists that they're supporting, you know, And
that's that's that's the wonderful part about being in the
music industry, something I love. And I hope that this
pandemic thing is subsidence so we can start doing that again.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Right now. We've got to be very careful, you know.
We weren't a mass.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We don't go out and do the meet and greets
like we were doing and things of that sort, which
I don't like, but it's the way it is.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Right now. I think it'll change in time.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well I do too, and hopefully we can get out
there to Branson, Nashville and like I said, hope to
see you and definitely you and Johnny back in concert
doing the Urban Cowboy two again. I got to ask
you about the Pioneer Award. Of course, it was presented
by the Branson Area Chamber of Commerce. I know, for
you guys, awards just again, you don't expect them kind
of in the industry, but when they do, it's great
to hear from your peers and of course different publications
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out there.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
What did that award mean to you?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, every time somebody gives you an award, you know,
you appreciate and you think thank them for it. You know.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I was fortunate enough to win the Awards Academy Country
Music Award Show, and they've given me different things down
to my career, and every one of them is kind
of special. The most lucrative one I received, I guess,
was a star in Hollywood Walk of Fame, which was
something that you'll always remember if you you know, if
you're if you're a performer or or any kind of
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actor or whatever, you know, to get that reward was
a big thinking happened to me. But every one of
them is special and they.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Did a lot to you. The other thing that I
am very proud of this is the fact that I
have my name on a.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Club in Las Vegas at the Treasure Island, Gillies, and
it's something that I treasured very much of the fact
is that they got my name Gillies out there, and
we got two in Oklahoma one and Piccola, Oklahoma one Duran, Oklahoma,
and we also had one in Dallas and got Gillies
out there and it's kept the name brand out in
front of the audience.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
So those are things that were important for me also.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
And I'm gonna go back to nineteen ninety four. I
was just fourteen at that time, and I remember the
vinyl record comes across and she goes, Honey, I bought
you this window again. Put it in that stack, notes
you ever sell it again?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
So talk to me. It was one I love.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's talk a little bit about Hockey Talk Wine because
that was one of my favorites off that record. Talk
to me what was that story behind Hanky Talk Wine.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Well, Mac mac vickory is the one that wrote the
song and when I recorded it. It was an f
tempo looking will get type tune and became a song
that raf Emery on the Populas Country. Every time I
go into the show to do that particular performance, he
was as do a little bit of Honky tonk wine.
He loved that song for some reason, and I kick
(32:14):
in the you know, sweet honky donk wine. In fact,
I ever did it for the end of the film
The Urban Cowboy.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I love that too. And hey, what you guys did
with Troy Payne. I got to talk to you. I
love first of all, the title of its great Two
Old Cats was out there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Two Old Cats like Us. What's the title track of
that album too? I want to talk about just working
with Troy on that project, because you guys had designated
drinker and I don't need your rock and chair of course,
George Jones. So many great songs there, but just amazing.
Two Old Cats came out really good.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Mickey Well, I appreciate you saying that Troy, and Troy
came up with the idea and came to me and
he says, you know, he said, I wanted to I
want to do a CD. He was in the music scene,
real really hot and heavy, and he was a fan
of Micky Gilly and that's how I met him.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
At the bottom line was when he decided he wanted
to do this particular project. He asked me, he says,
which would you be.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Willing to, you know, maybe sing some songs with him?
I said, absolutely. You know, I had no problem with
singing with you, toy.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
If you know.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Uh so we use a little kick in the shows
uptown when he comes out and we do it two
or two together.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, I said, why did you pick me to do
this project with you? Toy? He says, because I couldn't
get George straight. That's why you got if you gotta
put fun at your said, if you don't.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Have a good time, you know what, that's exactly right.
We'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He We love to have a little fun here too.
A series of funny questions. I'm on through out there
a little second we call rapid fire. So hey, whatever
comes to mind, Hey, just throw it out there, no
right or wrong answer. So Hey, during this time, what's
been been some of the favorite TV shows? I guess
programs that you've caught up on.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Usually I watched the news more thanything else. But you know,
I like to watch your ID channel, and I like
to watch, you know, some of those type of shows.
I like what forty eight hours, uh, Dateline and things
of that sort. That's my favorite things that I watch.
I don't I don't have a lot of things that
I I mean, I keep TV on all the time,
but it's just mainly that so to keep my mind
(34:07):
off of everything else.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Is all Hey of course know in Texas very well
in Pasadena, and of course knowing food real well and
also Branson. What's been kind of the food or foods
of choice during this quarantine period? What have you kind
of gotten into.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Well, I've always liked Mexican food. I like sushi.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I like a comfort food. But my my, my, uh,
I just like spicy food. I guess that's meanly why
I like sushi. I didn't get into sushi until, you know,
back in the in the eighties, but because I didn't
eat that stuff until that time, and all of a
sudden I found that it was you know, sobby is
(34:43):
spicy and you can get starting up with California rules
and I graduated enough to the salmon and that type
of thing.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
My favorite one is a spicy tuna role. That's one
of my favorite ones that you can get, you know,
And a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Of a lot of people don't realize that a lot
of the food that they do at the sushi bar
is cooked.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
I don't realize that. Yeah, you know, I mean I
like it only I don't like anything, but I like
the majority of it.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's it's special to go out to a sushi place
and have a beard and have some sushi.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, just enjoy yourself and time of enjoy That's one
of the foods we try to do at least once
a twice a month in Texas. Here in Beaumont, we
got a pretty good little sushi place right around the
corner from us.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I take you. I mean, I always love Cracker Bell. Now, yeah,
I can't comfort food, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Hey, Cracker Bil is one of the best out there.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Hey, when you get a chance to put down the
mic and of course the guitar and kind of step
away from music. What are some of the other hobbies
that you enjoy the most.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Well, my hobby was playing golf, which I can't do
anymore because by accident I had And the other thing
was flying my airplane. I've got a multi engine rating.
I got an instrument rating. I got about almost eleven
thousand hours of flying time. I even got a commercial rating.
But I lost my medical back when I had in
my accident. I can't play piano any more. My hands
(36:02):
don't work very well, but my voice is holding up
pretty good, so I'm doing quite well. Other than that
at eighty four, not bad. Hey, I don't know how
much longer I got because everybody's you know, passing on.
But anyway, I'm still here.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
You're still here and still kicking ass and taking names.
The legendary Mickey Gilly here on the program. Be sure
and check out Gillies dot com, visit the club in Pasadena.
Of course, always get the music if you don't have
it already. What are you waiting for out there on
digital platforms? And Mickey tay what It was a pleasure
to talk to Johnny on the program last year. Johnny leed,
of course, best of luck when you guys restart the tour.
I hope I can actually meet you one day, and
(36:37):
I'd love to come sit front row and take my
wife to the Big Time concert one day.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Brandon, we'd love to have you at the show and
all the country music fans out there. I want to
see me and Johnny E. Don't wait too long now
because I'm made you for and I don't know how
much longer I got, but come see us.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
We need to get together and this is some great
country music.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Oh, you got it right, So Nick at Ghilly here
on the backstage pass.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Of course, we're presented by a tour guitars, and coming
up later Ray Fulcher on the program, and the next
week Nashville recording artist Daryl Worley's gonna stop by here
on the backstage pass, looking forward to catching up with him.
And then, according to the end of the end of October,
a name that Mickey will know well, Moe Bandy's coming
by the program here and we're going to talk about
some more of that classic country music here on the
backstage pass. You guys, stay tuned for more here at
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