March 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Nashville recording artist Shaylen dropped by the show to tell her story of life and music and she talked about the grind in the music industry! Shaylen also has new music out across all the digital streaming platforms and is one of the rising artists in the female country category! Tune in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, y'all, this is Nashville Recording artists Shalin and you're
listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on True Country
KKTC ninety nine point nine and KYBN ninety eight point one,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome inside the backstage past KYB in ninety eight
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at KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine in Taos,
New Mexico. Ski Town out there too, of course with
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TWN dot org. Can check out the website there. It's
world wide out here. I almost feel like pit Bull
sometimes worldwide, and she's worldwide out there too, one of
Big Machines top artists out there too. Been trying to
track her down for a long time, but her schedule
is always busy. Here on the backstage past, powered by
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the Sports Guys podcast dot com. Brendan Morel here and
please to welcome in our beat, your artist of the day,
Shaye Land of the broadcast from a friend. How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, I'm doing great After listening to that, because
I was like, I don't know, you don't need me
to do liners at all. It's that was I was like, wow,
voice is so it's good. It's a good voice. It
was nice. I felt soothed. I felt soothed.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's great to have you. We've been doing this thing
quite quite a while now too. Hey talk to me
about this. You know, I love it too, because like
it's opening day for like major League Baseball, and sports
and music go hand in hand when it comes down
to it. Were you a just any teams out there
who you rooted for growing up? Were you a sports fan?
Did you enjoy Major League Baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Let me tell you, I if I young me didn't
even know because I was. I literally got thrown in
and saying national anthems from like Rangers to like Lakers
games to so I am all sports due to being
a byproduct of seeing the anthem at them, and then
I actually started to get into them, and then I'm
literally by like birthright, I have to rep stealers. I
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apologize out there if that's offensive. But half of my
family is Pittsburgh. Then obviously Dallas I gotta rep because
I grew up there, and then we got to do
the Titans. Those are like my three just because of
like my background. Those right off the top. And then Rangers. Obviously,
Texas Rough Riders was the minor league in Dallas, and
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I did Texas Rough Riders, big fan. But they're the
baseball minor leagues, and let's see what else do we lack?
Those are the two sports and the teams that I like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So repping the Steelers now, I'm getting this little kind
of rumor going around now too, because I grew up,
like I said, a cowboy fan, and I became a
cardinal fan Arizona with the NFL teams. Love my Houston
Astrials down here, being from Texas where my studio's at.
And when I go to Nashville, I have that soft
spot for the Titans because I just want Tennessee teams
to do well. But with the Steelers, is Aaron Rodgers
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gonna go there? Because that's kind of the rumor right now.
Is he gonna retire?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know what? I can't speak on the fact that
now that level of sportsmanship I do know. I'm like,
I don't know. All I know is that we will
hold seven Super Bowl rings. Pop pop. I can't say it,
but Troy Man with the hair and then Ben Roethlisberger,
those guys go like they were goaded. I couldn't tell
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you about Aaron Rodgers, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm waiting that decision to come down to with all
the free agency right now too in the NFL. Of course,
it is baseball season two. Hey, we got to get
to some music. This is fantastic too out of the gate.
But first, for the listeners out there who may not know,
Shaley and the artist, talk about just your background, the upbringing,
and what connected you to country music growing up.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'll give you the short story, because if we got
the whole story, we'd be here for a very long time. Funny,
you said you're in Houston.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm near Houston, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My dad's Conroe, so I also have a soft spot
for the Houston teams. That was a sad note. But
my story here we go. I can never get it
really short. I have been singing my entire life. I
basically the second I could talk it was more like
just instead of like actual words. My parents, I think,
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were like, is she gonna talk? So it was just
instantly I didn't even have desire to walk nothing. I
was just sing. Then we developed our little like we
were coming into our human self at four, and I
would just sit on my fireplace and make everybody watch
me sing to my baby, and I would tear off
like papers and be like, here's your tickets. And then
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I was They were like, what do you want to
be when you grow up? And at the time, I
was like, singing veterinarian. Then I figured out that you
have to do all the things as a veterinarian that
are not sunshine and rainbows, and I was like, we'll
not be doing that part of it, so singing will
be my future. So basically, dobin any chance that I got.
I learned how to sing in church and basically off
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country music. And my dad is a human jukebox. So
from country to we had share and there, we had Whitney,
we had Alabama, we had what's his favorite? Oh my God,
slip in my mind, but anything and everything I would
listen to, so I just absorbed it. Got my first
solo in church and I just remember like, whatever the
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feeling was, it wasn't that they were looking at me.
It was like this. At the very young age that
I was, I was like, Wow, whatever this is. I'm
a firm believer in God, and like I felt like
that's what that feeling was. And then I also was like,
this is making us like all one person right now
that we're feeling all the things at the same time.
And I was like, I want to do this. I'm hooked.
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So my parents got me a piano, started to learn
by a year, classically trained, did every after school thing,
and then I booked a I got into a pop
group when I was super young, and first it was
a Christian group that toured Texas, and then we got
picked up for a sitcom and filmed the pilot episode
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in Fellowship of the Woodlands funny Enough, and spent a
lot of time in Houston. Then that got picked up
for twenty six episodes. Moved before I even got to
high school. I moved to Michigan four a year and
a half, filmed the episodes homeschooled after school first record
deal on the table with young Money cash Money. At
the ripe age of seventeen, so the pop group and
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I had been together a few years touring, just got
back from South America. Everything was going and then our first,
my first heartbreak by the music industry was being shelfed.
I didn't know what that meant. So seventeen turned in eighteen.
I was like, they're not answering our calls, like what's
going on? And so I was like, I got to
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move out to la very little money that my advance like.
I was like, I have enough, and my parents to like,
we don't have anything to give you what? But they
couldn't tell me no. So packed up my bags drove
out there, and then I got hit with reality that
that chunk of money lasted probably a month and worked
every job I could, sat in that record deal with
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making no music for three years and finally got out,
learned how to write music by myself in the meantime,
and basically wrote my way to my first publishing deal.
Then that song landed me my second record deal later
on in twenty eighteen with Universal Republic. Everything was ready
to go, stars were ligning. COVID happens, and I thought
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COVID was the worst thing that happened to me, and
it actually ended up being the best thing because after
eleven years in LA, first time to take a step
back and not make a song for an entire year,
and I realized over the years and falling into it
because I always wanted to just go to Nashville, I
was like fascinated, and when I got out of my deal,
it just life didn't let me go there. So then
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what music became and pop music at the time, I
just realized I fell out of love and I was
like everything was just like, don't do that, or like
everything that I inheritently would do, I was told not to.
So I took a step back and I basically after
at that point fifteen years of doing this, my hands
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were tied and I was like, you know what, God,
I don't think if this was like always just right
there and something happens, like maybe it's not what you wanted,
and to go against everything of who I am that
feels wrong. So I had I was like, I will
finally think of a plan B that you want me
to do, and I'd never have and so right at
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that time and deciding that I got the offer to
just come out and write for people in Nashville for
the first time for a week and pitch the records,
and I was like, Okay, I'll do one last hurrah
and then I'm out. And I came out first day.
I wrote the song what If I Don't, And I
basically was like, I usually can give a lot of
songs away. I go to Korea all the time and
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write k pop and give my songs, and this one
just felt weird and different. So I just had a
voice to go, pack up and ask somehow a miracle
of the label letting me go and the management seventy
five bucks to my name, got off all of it.
They just universal was wonderful. They let me go and
packed up my bags, drove out here, put it out independent,
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and six months later my life changed. And now a
year and a half later, I get to do stuff
like this.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's the beauty of a major story right there, in
a special story, when someone is really good and they
grinding this business, big dreams do come true to your
perfect example of that, and what if I don't? A
fantastic song here too, heard. I could chat all day,
but you know what, we got to play music. Here
is internet streaming radio out there too, in syndicated stations
and I know you guys have heard the songs looping
over and over again too, but I had to showcase
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the music there too. While we're talking out there with
Shaelann here on the backstage pass again powered by the
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Shlin to tell you the truth. You know what, We're
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Speaker 8 (13:43):
Hey, y'all, this is Nashville recording artist Noah Thompson and
you're listening to the Backstage Past podcast powered by the
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Speaker 7 (14:12):
Hey guys, this is Nashville recording artist Kirsty Kraus and
you're listening to the award nominated Backstage Past podcast on KYBN,
your Bay Area Broadcasting Network and Becky with.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Shane Land the Backstage Past KKTC True Country ninety nine
point nine to tell you the truth and of course
they're friends out there. KYBN ninety eight point one year,
Bay Area Broadcasting Network. I love this EP. It's two songs,
It's fantastic and it came out last September, which these
songs are just hitting to the core for a lot
of people. My friend, this is really just speaking lyrically
to people resonating with these songs, and I'm sure the
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fans sing this back to you at all the live shows.
Tell me where this one specifically came from to Tell.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You the Truth. This one has a funny, funny story
about it because you'll see, as I like slowly put
out the body of work, it's truly just chapters of
my journey, like from my journal in like in a
chronological time order of things, which the album I hope
when I make it, you'll see it. It's like the
layers of the girl at the beginning and what she
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gets through, like the breakup, but also realizing she like
fell out, like lost herself, and then at the end
of the album you get the girl that's like I've
found myself within all of this and I am so
good with her, and you see the evolution. But to
tell You the Truth, basically the chapters of what if
I don't to then let me let you and tell
you the Truth was just like my heart is breaking,
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and then it's like I'm fine, I'm letting you go,
and then I'm back to be like I'm actually not cool.
And this day on the song, I was really excited
because I didn't. It's funny there's like times where I
have a concept or title and then there's times where
I'm like I know it's out there and today's like
one of those days I'm gonna catch it. So I
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had a variation of this title, and basically I was
so excited about the combination in the room of writers,
and I was like waiting, so excited for like a
month when I saw it on the calendar. The day
comes and I wake up and I'm like, I am
deadly sick with a kidney infection, and I was like,
(16:22):
the one writer's coming to get me and had I
was getting sick. Basically the whole ride there, I was
kept throwing up and I was like and he was like,
you need to go to the emergency room, like we
will reschedule it. I was like, no, no, you never know.
I just have this crazy feeling and I will go
after it. And he's like, you're insane, and I was like,
I just you never know what a song's going to do.
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And I just feel like He's like, Okay, whole session,
we're like sitting there, we come up with the concept
that was simplified, and it was just like, SI that
easy to be, like, to tell you the truth, I'm
issue and we were like yeah, and I'm sitting cutting
it in the corner, shaking have a fever. It was
getting sick throughout the whole session, and basically we wrote it.
I was like, I think it's awesome. And then I
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was like, and I hear like pain in my voice
but can't tell if it's because I'm dying or like,
actually because I'm still sad. And then I went to
the er and they're like, you're you could have died.
I was like, we got a song. It's great, I think.
And basically a year later, who would have ever known
that I would have signed the record deal and it
would be the first song to come out on the
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record label. So it was crazy. And I called him
and I was like, You're never gonna believe this city
was just like, wow, Okay, I might start to believe
whatever that thing is that you're like, you never know.
So there's many layers to tell you the truth.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I love it too. It's got some great layers and
it really, like I said, speaks to an audience out
there too. And got to see you live there last
year during CEE May Week, we get a chance to
go there to broadcaster show live at the Music City Center.
Always fun to be out there and just meet a
lot of new people. Got to see you with Brett
Young and friendship. We were talking about this a little
bit before we came on air today a little bit
and fantastic performance and I know for you what a
great lineup before even got to Brett Young, there was
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a restless road in Kilba Calais and somebody got the
great out there. That event itself was fantastic. Talk about
that for me.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean, I still this last year and a half
has been real weird because I'm like, is that did
I do that? And CMA Fest the year before, I
self submitted myself online praying. I was like, maybe I'll
get something, and they let me have the spotlight stage
and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. And
then the next year, not only did I get invited
and got to do Reverb stage the day before and
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then or the same day that night they were like,
You're gonna be on the Brett Young and Friends lineup
and I was like, I'm Brett Young's friend for tonight.
What So basically, I like rarely get nervous. In fact,
I get more excited to just be like my home
of the stage. I get to be myself that show.
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I was sweating and I was just like I don't
want to like, I don't want to be the wame friend,
don't want to be the weird friend. And then got
to do my set and at the end, I uh,
we found out that we all come out on stage
and sing with him, and I was like, so I
basically I was in We were all waiting and my
homies Restless Road and I'm sitting there with my dream
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Idol Kolbe and Gavin and I'm like, what is happening
in Lily Rose? And I was like, cool, Jalen, I
was not so cool when I went out with everybody
at the end of the night and everybody looks like
we're doing this and then there's me and the photos
with the artist pass on my neck. That's just like,
I'm the artist. I'm here, supposed to be here, so
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all the photos it's just like you just see me
with this artist thing. And I'm like, I wasn't the
cool friend. I was the lame friend but overall coolest experience.
He's the nicest guy ever. And I still can't believe
that that I got to do that. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I love it too. More opportunities, you know, Seemafist twenty
twenty five. It's coming up here June fifth to the eighth.
I've seen things after you guys have probably teased so far,
but anything you've let the cat out of the bag.
As far as plans for you this.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Year, well, this year I got invited. I'm like, you
guys invited me twice, now me, but I went from
the Reverb stage and now I got I get to
go to the Doctor Pepper the Amp stage, and I
just still am like what because it's just every year
it is like I have my dream scenarios or like
fanfare I'll be at I think that Big Machine and
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Harbor are doing their annual things, so I'm sure that
I'll do some some sets here and there. But it's
just like the Doctor Pepper stage and then you have
like there's like the river front after that and in
the stadium and I'm.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
Just like we're inching up there, and I'm like what,
So the Doctor pet I thought Reverb and everything last
year was I was like I'm happy with this, so
that it was I found out the Doctor Pepper stage
and I was like, okay, so definitely catch be at
the Dr Pepper stage.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That's where I'll be all.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right, I'm gonna get out there. Can I come and
just be a guest.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I've got to get on stage with me, be rare, bere.
You got to come up and do like you got
to soothe the audience by just speaking. We can do that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I would love to do that, just to have a
little fun and then m see the thing I've done that,
It shows we got a tough thing. I'm going to
the Golden Nugget and like Charles Louisiana this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So, I mean, I don't know who makes the rules,
but I'm like, if I if I have my way,
I'm like, you come up on stage. I'm like, I'll
freaking take it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'll take it. Hey, Hannaway, we can make an arrangement
on that too as well. We'll talk to the powers
that be and see if they want to do that too,
which is great. You know, this business is is definitely
one of the hardest things that you guys do out there,
either a male female artist. But I love the fact
that the one to get your comment on it because
the female side of it now is blowing up so big.
We mentioned Landy Wilson and of course Ashley Cook, Hannah
Ellis yourself right there included, and so many more. Then
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we don't have time to mention out there doing their thing.
The women empowerment movement talk about just what that means
for you as an artist and specifically in the music business.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, it's funny because like my mom when I
was little, she was just like, it's a hard world
either way. Don't ever think anything or like, just just
try your best and do your best and just keep going.
Don't see anything different. And I was just like, I
didn't know what that meant. And as I got into
the industry and the pop side of things and being
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a female, I was like, okay, like I feel like
this doesn't happen to the male species. But I was
like it's fine, we're all we're doing their thing. And
then I got to country and I was like, okay,
like it feels it feels like it feels a little different.
And I was, but it's also like the audience and
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the consumer it's so it's one of the one genres
where it's like it's fan base that's so welcoming no
matter what. It's just a good song, and they're like
that's what they want. And I think that's what's amazing
is now these females with social media and getting to
show who they really are, and like you get to
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know them really in this day and age with the music.
Like Ella is one of those writers that I'm like, wow,
and then you have Laney and it's but they're all
so different and it's just like and there's room for everyone,
and it's really really cool because it's like and then
you have the male artists that are backing them up,
like Lacey K. Parker McCollum, like like, I mean, Chris
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Young advocated for me and it was just like, I've
never had that and that doesn't really happen. And I
think that's the beautiful thing about country is that no
matter male female, if you write a great song, it's
going to break through. And the females right now across
the board are just coming in hot. They got something
to say and they're being heard and it's about tap.
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So I couldn't love it more because I'm excited that
I get to be in this era of music with
such strong female presence.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
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It's been pretty odd for me.
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Well, I ain't giving yours.
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Speaker 10 (27:44):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hey back here, Shlan joining us here on the backstage
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We're there at the backstage past and now top forty
over in Europe in the country of Denmark, So make
sure you're playing that Shale and music out there too
and Shale Music dot com. Let me let you my goodness,
you take them on a ride, just like you did
to tell you the truth. And these two songs are fantastic.
I just can't wait for this full length album and
this record to come out because again that music just
resonates so well with the fans out there, myself included.
(28:40):
But this one here, I really told the story talk
about this.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
One for me.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
This one was so fun this day because I truly
I got to make this with Brett Tyler and Lindsay Rhymes,
and that's already like two of some of my favorite
humans in this town. But it was I came in
with this title of like what did I It was like,
let yeah, let me let you go is what I
walked in with. And the way we hooked it in
(29:08):
the whole day of just being like how do we
say this? Like I just this. It's like, especially in
my life, the men I've chosen, it's like the second
I'm like, all right, I think we're coming out of
this depressive hole, and then it's like I'm gonna go
on a date. I'm gonna do it, and I just
get out there and it's like there's this radar that
(29:29):
these men have, and I swear to the Good Lord,
I'm like, why are you popping back up right now?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Why?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And it's like they can feel that you're about to
move on, and I'm just like and every time I
fall for it, not in this chapter, I'm like, I
am done falling for you. But I will say the
tattoos and they like, you could mess up my life.
I'm like, just tie me up, absolutely, and that song
is a reflection of basically, I have this thing where
(29:59):
when I write this, when I finally write it and
I put it out there, I have to stick to it.
And I'm just like, so we are not going to
fall for that, and that's kind of let me let you.
All of these are like I'm like shedding chapters of
myself when I write songs because they're just from my journal.
So every time I'm just like, all right, like been
there before, I'm like, no more knuckle tattoos, especially live
(30:21):
Fast and that one was just like no more falling
for the radar or like the two am like you up?
I'm like, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I'm dead, poor gast the next few years from me.
If you can't, we'll put a little prognostication on it.
Grandall lopry. We're doing some things there and of course
some things it can be kind of put the little
crystal ball there. What you want most out of this
big career.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I want to be able to cut my parents a
check one day and say go on a trip and
retire and give. It's not expected. Your parents don't expect that,
but I just like the things that they've done for me.
Is actually my mom and raising me and most of
the time being both parents, and I just want to
be like, here, go retire because this is what I wish.
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I could give you everything that you did for me.
So that's that's the one of the two things. Second
thing would be that I get to stand on a
stage every night of my life because I can never
there's not announce to me that gets tired of it.
I want to hear people's stories. I want to sing
my journal pages and feel that feeling of like we
all became one feeling in person tonight and we all
(31:33):
came together, which is really cool. And then I want
to take that and I want to make these centers
in La New York and Nashville, and I basically want
to like open up a crash course school for anybody
that wants to get in entertainment and a lot of
the things that you got to find out by trial
and error. I'm going to do that with like certain
things attached to it. And I want to write a
(31:56):
book that I finally get to tell my life story
because it is is it's a book worth he could
be a movie at this point. And then I want
to obviously the win a Grammy I want to or
like a ACM CMA is all the things. I want
to be at all the things and become a grand
(32:18):
old if remember one day. I know that's a long
way down the road. And then I also want to
be a part of every charity that I can that
is special to me. And basically I just want to
hope God willing that I'm successful in this career so
that I could just go and help people. That's all
I want to do.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's all you can. And you know what, she's just
a great artist out there too, doing her thing out
there writing great music. And I gotta ask you about
another one. Take us back a little bit, do it
right the first time? What a title? First song? My goodness,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you. This one right now in this season is
like extra, just like because it's I've lost both my
Mimi and Papal this months back to back, and they
were my absolute world and one of the huge reasons
I got to even go out to LA because they
if I needed help for that first month, like they
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were right there. They prayed for me every day and
it was It's such an interesting thing to reflect on
a song that at the time I got to show them,
thankfully while they were here still, but I'd got right
before I moved to Nashville. I went through earth shattering
like life breaking my heart a specific person. I was
at the lowest of lows, and for the first time
(33:35):
I realized I was like, these two have been married.
Because I called my mom. I was like, what do
I do? She was like, listen, I don't have all
the answers, but I'm going to tell you who you
should go to. And Miammi and Papal were ninety seven,
both of them when they passed, and they had been
married seventy six years and not a day that they
didn't spend together. They were best friends and truly the
(33:58):
example of like wow that exists and showed me how
to be or like at least an example of what
you should do for others. So I went to see
them right like before I wrote this song and was like,
what is it? Give me the SECRETA was like, laugh
a lot, don't take too much too serious, and he
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was like, and try your best and do it right
the first time so you don't have to do it again.
And I was like, and then it was crazy. A
year later, the writers Sean, Katie and Chris. Sean had
a similar story with his grandfather and we landed on
the title and it just it wasn't an easy one
to write, but it is one of my favorite songs
(34:39):
that I have because it's just so there's so many layers,
so that one in this season it means more than
I even realized it would.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, I love it too because again this other titles,
these titles that keep coming up but are just great
for songs too. And love the lyrics and the cowboys
never cry. This is another one of those things to
worry you know what. I'm a guy. I'm not saying
the cowboy, but hey, look grew up in the country.
But I'll say, look man, we can we can't shed
some tears. But again, the title itself and what you
did with the song on the entire arrangement, I love it.
(35:10):
It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Thank you so much. That one that was with me
and my boys Seth and Evan, And it's funny I
walked in. Initially I was like kind of playing with
the idea of making making cowboys cry, and then I
was just like the way it evolved, and then like
Seth doing what he does best with lyrics when I'm
(35:32):
he did it with what if I don't too, because
I came in with like, waterproof mascara is the like
I couldn't stop buying it. I was like, all right, girl,
we've cried the eyelashes off every day, so now it's
waterproof mascara. That and how he like all of us
together because it depends on the rooms every day every time,
like one addition or like somebody missing can throw it
(35:53):
all off and you don't know. You just never know
when you're walking in. So it's so fun. And we'd
like teetered on this idea and then it developed into
this and it was basically like which is crazy. When
I shared it on TikTok, mostly every comment was guys
that were just like we do cry in the car
(36:13):
and I was like, why okay, like all right, and
I was just like the public comments. I was like,
do they know that they people could see this? So
that was just but I didn't realize what like market
it kind of hit because I do think like as
we wrote it, and Seth and Evan were both like, man,
I do wish it was like it felt more like
(36:34):
I could publicly cry the amount of times I want to,
and I was just like, I wish that. The guys
cried over me in front of me, and then it
just came out to where like we got this, and
then when we were listening back, it was like eight
hours goes by and you're like, did I do that?
Did we write that?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
That one?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
The melodies especially have become some of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I'll tell you what, I love it so much. All
one of the new stuff comes out in the full
length album. We're gonna have to have you back here
on this very program to break it down and talk
about all the songs. I know you're busy, you got
that that thing called a schedule, that something, Yeah, you
know it. You know how it goes. But I tell
you what, my privilege here to an honor to have
you here on the backstage past and definitely looking forward
to just having you back on talking about more great projects.
(37:21):
She's one of the hottest artists out there in the
female category right now. Shalin Music, Dot Comics, you guys
check her out across all the DSPs, give her a
life on social media. My privilege and my treat to
have you here on the show. Thank you so much
for being with us, and sure appreciate the time to
talk music and talking about everything you've got going on
for twenty twenty five. And I hope to see you
in person at CMA Fest.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You better and I'm serious. I'm like, depending on I'm like,
whoever's running it. If I'm allowed, I'm like, he's coming up.
That's it. So consider it done and get on that friend.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well, I'll text her.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Like know you who?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm like, you run the show. I it's all good.
Tell me if it's cool. But as far as like
if we can and that's like a thing, then consider
it done. So let's you know time and place where
to be.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, Well, we'll make it out there to the big
stages out there against Shalley Music dot com for all
the tour dates and tickets, and of course check out
the music across all the digital streaming platforms. More great
music coming up here as we spend more here too,
KISW Country right there, tar Hereworldnetwork dot Org and of
course KKTC True Country out there to ninety nine point
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your big area broadcasting network. Take care God Bless and
more great music coming up here from the Backstage Past,
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you soon, Take care, God bless.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
Hey y'all, this is Nashville recording artists Braandley Gilbert and
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Exclusively on kkt D see True Country ninety nine point
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Hey, y'all, this is Nashville Recording artists Shalin and you're
listening to the award nominated Backstage Pass on True Country
KKTC ninety nine point nine and KYBN ninety eight point one,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome inside the backstage past KYB in ninety eight
point one, your Big Area Broadcasting Network, and our friends
at KKTC True Country ninety nine point nine in Taos,
New Mexico. Ski Town out there too, of course with
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Network dot org out there two playing some of the
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TWN dot org. Can check out the website there. It's
world wide out here. I almost feel like pit Bull
sometimes worldwide, and she's worldwide out there too, one of
Big Machines top artists out there too. Been trying to
track her down for a long time, but her schedule
is always busy. Here on the backstage past, powered by
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the Sports Guys podcast dot com. Brendan Morel here and
please to welcome in our beat, your artist of the day,
Shaye Land of the broadcast from a friend. How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, I'm doing great After listening to that, because
I was like, I don't know, you don't need me
to do liners at all. It's that was I was like, wow,
voice is so it's good. It's a good voice. It
was nice. I felt soothed. I felt soothed.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's great to have you. We've been doing this thing
quite quite a while now too. Hey talk to me
about this. You know, I love it too, because like
it's opening day for like major League Baseball, and sports
and music go hand in hand when it comes down
to it. Were you a just any teams out there
who you rooted for growing up? Were you a sports fan?
Did you enjoy Major League Baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Let me tell you, I if I young me didn't
even know because I was. I literally got thrown in
and saying national anthems from like Rangers to like Lakers
games to so I am all sports due to being
a byproduct of seeing the anthem at them, and then
I actually started to get into them, and then I'm
literally by like birthright, I have to rep stealers. I
(01:59):
apologize out there if that's offensive. But half of my
family is Pittsburgh. Then obviously Dallas I gotta rep because
I grew up there, and then we got to do
the Titans. Those are like my three just because of
like my background. Those right off the top. And then Rangers. Obviously,
Texas Rough Riders was the minor league in Dallas, and
(02:23):
I did Texas Rough Riders, big fan. But they're the
baseball minor leagues, and let's see what else do we lack?
Those are the two sports and the teams that I like.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So repping the Steelers now, I'm getting this little kind
of rumor going around now too, because I grew up,
like I said, a cowboy fan, and I became a
cardinal fan Arizona with the NFL teams. Love my Houston
Astrials down here, being from Texas where my studio's at.
And when I go to Nashville, I have that soft
spot for the Titans because I just want Tennessee teams
to do well. But with the Steelers, is Aaron Rodgers
(02:53):
gonna go there? Because that's kind of the rumor right now.
Is he gonna retire?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know what? I can't speak on the fact that
now that level of sportsmanship I do know. I'm like,
I don't know. All I know is that we will
hold seven Super Bowl rings. Pop pop. I can't say it,
but Troy Man with the hair and then Ben Roethlisberger,
those guys go like they were goaded. I couldn't tell
(03:21):
you about Aaron Rodgers, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm waiting that decision to come down to with all
the free agency right now too in the NFL. Of course,
it is baseball season two. Hey, we got to get
to some music. This is fantastic too out of the gate.
But first, for the listeners out there who may not know,
Shaley and the artist, talk about just your background, the upbringing,
and what connected you to country music growing up.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'll give you the short story, because if we got
the whole story, we'd be here for a very long time. Funny,
you said you're in Houston.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm near Houston, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My dad's Conroe, so I also have a soft spot
for the Houston teams. That was a sad note. But
my story here we go. I can never get it
really short. I have been singing my entire life. I
basically the second I could talk it was more like
just instead of like actual words. My parents, I think,
(04:14):
were like, is she gonna talk? So it was just
instantly I didn't even have desire to walk nothing. I
was just sing. Then we developed our little like we
were coming into our human self at four, and I
would just sit on my fireplace and make everybody watch
me sing to my baby, and I would tear off
like papers and be like, here's your tickets. And then
(04:36):
I was They were like, what do you want to
be when you grow up? And at the time, I
was like, singing veterinarian. Then I figured out that you
have to do all the things as a veterinarian that
are not sunshine and rainbows, and I was like, we'll
not be doing that part of it, so singing will
be my future. So basically, dobin any chance that I got.
I learned how to sing in church and basically off
(04:56):
country music. And my dad is a human jukebox. So
from country to we had share and there, we had Whitney,
we had Alabama, we had what's his favorite? Oh my God,
slip in my mind, but anything and everything I would
listen to, so I just absorbed it. Got my first
solo in church and I just remember like, whatever the
(05:19):
feeling was, it wasn't that they were looking at me.
It was like this. At the very young age that
I was, I was like, Wow, whatever this is. I'm
a firm believer in God, and like I felt like
that's what that feeling was. And then I also was like,
this is making us like all one person right now
that we're feeling all the things at the same time.
And I was like, I want to do this. I'm hooked.
(05:41):
So my parents got me a piano, started to learn
by a year, classically trained, did every after school thing,
and then I booked a I got into a pop
group when I was super young, and first it was
a Christian group that toured Texas, and then we got
picked up for a sitcom and filmed the pilot episode
(06:02):
in Fellowship of the Woodlands funny Enough, and spent a
lot of time in Houston. Then that got picked up
for twenty six episodes. Moved before I even got to
high school. I moved to Michigan four a year and
a half, filmed the episodes homeschooled after school first record
deal on the table with young Money cash Money. At
the ripe age of seventeen, so the pop group and
(06:24):
I had been together a few years touring, just got
back from South America. Everything was going and then our first,
my first heartbreak by the music industry was being shelfed.
I didn't know what that meant. So seventeen turned in eighteen.
I was like, they're not answering our calls, like what's
going on? And so I was like, I got to
(06:44):
move out to la very little money that my advance like.
I was like, I have enough, and my parents to like,
we don't have anything to give you what? But they
couldn't tell me no. So packed up my bags drove
out there, and then I got hit with reality that
that chunk of money lasted probably a month and worked
every job I could, sat in that record deal with
(07:06):
making no music for three years and finally got out,
learned how to write music by myself in the meantime,
and basically wrote my way to my first publishing deal.
Then that song landed me my second record deal later
on in twenty eighteen with Universal Republic. Everything was ready
to go, stars were ligning. COVID happens, and I thought
(07:29):
COVID was the worst thing that happened to me, and
it actually ended up being the best thing because after
eleven years in LA, first time to take a step
back and not make a song for an entire year,
and I realized over the years and falling into it
because I always wanted to just go to Nashville, I
was like fascinated, and when I got out of my deal,
it just life didn't let me go there. So then
(07:53):
what music became and pop music at the time, I
just realized I fell out of love and I was
like everything was just like, don't do that, or like
everything that I inheritently would do, I was told not to.
So I took a step back and I basically after
at that point fifteen years of doing this, my hands
(08:14):
were tied and I was like, you know what, God,
I don't think if this was like always just right
there and something happens, like maybe it's not what you wanted,
and to go against everything of who I am that
feels wrong. So I had I was like, I will
finally think of a plan B that you want me
to do, and I'd never have and so right at
(08:34):
that time and deciding that I got the offer to
just come out and write for people in Nashville for
the first time for a week and pitch the records,
and I was like, Okay, I'll do one last hurrah
and then I'm out. And I came out first day.
I wrote the song what If I Don't, And I
basically was like, I usually can give a lot of
songs away. I go to Korea all the time and
(08:54):
write k pop and give my songs, and this one
just felt weird and different. So I just had a
voice to go, pack up and ask somehow a miracle
of the label letting me go and the management seventy
five bucks to my name, got off all of it.
They just universal was wonderful. They let me go and
packed up my bags, drove out here, put it out independent,
(09:15):
and six months later my life changed. And now a
year and a half later, I get to do stuff
like this.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's the beauty of a major story right there, in
a special story, when someone is really good and they
grinding this business, big dreams do come true to your
perfect example of that, and what if I don't? A
fantastic song here too, heard. I could chat all day,
but you know what, we got to play music. Here
is internet streaming radio out there too, in syndicated stations
and I know you guys have heard the songs looping
over and over again too, but I had to showcase
(09:40):
the music there too. While we're talking out there with
Shaelann here on the backstage pass again powered by the
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gonna tell you the truth there to see backstage pass
from a great artistic to.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
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Speaker 4 (10:21):
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random guy.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
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Speaker 4 (10:31):
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from the outside looking in. I'm dwen bed everything I've
ever been to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
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Speaker 6 (10:53):
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Speaker 4 (10:57):
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bring and sea shup.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
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Speaker 6 (11:09):
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Speaker 5 (11:11):
She'll love you, but tell me you work on what
is doing? To tell you the truth?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Wood Man, if a car it ain't like you wanna.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Tell or leave the girl leave before. No, you don't
care no more with something look good on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
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Speaker 3 (11:40):
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Speaker 4 (11:40):
Ben had little tide eyes on the outside logging in.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I'm doing middle then I've ever been.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
To tell you the truth.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I'm a crazy to tell you the truth.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I mas your baby, she'll got a kid under the lad.
You've got your picture of my gosh do Benny T shirt?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Wake up crying.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I'm getting pretty.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Then good shed line.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
It's gonna be honest to love you.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
But tell me what good lord it do to tell
you the truth.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
To tell you the truth I do, I doe want
you if you time my weakegle, tell my cars flow through.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
My chesty there on paper to tell you true them
long crazy deal, You's true. I'm this baby, you gotta keep.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I'm gonna do the man.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
You got your picture.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Mother, welcome crime.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Nine men love you.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Let's tell me love the.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Wit to.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Hey, y'all, this is Nashville recording artist Noah Thompson and
you're listening to the Backstage Past podcast powered by the
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Speaker 3 (13:57):
That Kaden Borton show, Today's Best Country Man is a
two hour show playing independent and mainstream country music you
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Speaker 7 (14:12):
Hey guys, this is Nashville recording artist Kirsty Kraus and
you're listening to the award nominated Backstage Past podcast on KYBN,
your Bay Area Broadcasting Network and Becky with.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Shane Land the Backstage Past KKTC True Country ninety nine
point nine to tell you the truth and of course
they're friends out there. KYBN ninety eight point one year,
Bay Area Broadcasting Network. I love this EP. It's two songs,
It's fantastic and it came out last September, which these
songs are just hitting to the core for a lot
of people. My friend, this is really just speaking lyrically
to people resonating with these songs, and I'm sure the
(14:49):
fans sing this back to you at all the live shows.
Tell me where this one specifically came from to Tell.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You the Truth. This one has a funny, funny story
about it because you'll see, as I like slowly put
out the body of work, it's truly just chapters of
my journey, like from my journal in like in a
chronological time order of things, which the album I hope
when I make it, you'll see it. It's like the
layers of the girl at the beginning and what she
(15:17):
gets through, like the breakup, but also realizing she like
fell out, like lost herself, and then at the end
of the album you get the girl that's like I've
found myself within all of this and I am so
good with her, and you see the evolution. But to
tell You the Truth, basically the chapters of what if
I don't to then let me let you and tell
you the Truth was just like my heart is breaking,
(15:41):
and then it's like I'm fine, I'm letting you go,
and then I'm back to be like I'm actually not cool.
And this day on the song, I was really excited
because I didn't. It's funny there's like times where I
have a concept or title and then there's times where
I'm like I know it's out there and today's like
one of those days I'm gonna catch it. So I
(16:01):
had a variation of this title, and basically I was
so excited about the combination in the room of writers,
and I was like waiting, so excited for like a
month when I saw it on the calendar. The day
comes and I wake up and I'm like, I am
deadly sick with a kidney infection, and I was like,
(16:22):
the one writer's coming to get me and had I
was getting sick. Basically the whole ride there, I was
kept throwing up and I was like and he was like,
you need to go to the emergency room, like we
will reschedule it. I was like, no, no, you never know.
I just have this crazy feeling and I will go
after it. And he's like, you're insane, and I was like,
I just you never know what a song's going to do.
(16:43):
And I just feel like He's like, Okay, whole session,
we're like sitting there, we come up with the concept
that was simplified, and it was just like, SI that
easy to be, like, to tell you the truth, I'm
issue and we were like yeah, and I'm sitting cutting
it in the corner, shaking have a fever. It was
getting sick throughout the whole session, and basically we wrote it.
I was like, I think it's awesome. And then I
(17:04):
was like, and I hear like pain in my voice
but can't tell if it's because I'm dying or like,
actually because I'm still sad. And then I went to
the er and they're like, you're you could have died.
I was like, we got a song. It's great, I think.
And basically a year later, who would have ever known
that I would have signed the record deal and it
would be the first song to come out on the
(17:26):
record label. So it was crazy. And I called him
and I was like, You're never gonna believe this city
was just like, wow, Okay, I might start to believe
whatever that thing is that you're like, you never know.
So there's many layers to tell you the truth.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I love it too. It's got some great layers and
it really, like I said, speaks to an audience out
there too. And got to see you live there last
year during CEE May Week, we get a chance to
go there to broadcaster show live at the Music City Center.
Always fun to be out there and just meet a
lot of new people. Got to see you with Brett
Young and friendship. We were talking about this a little
bit before we came on air today a little bit
and fantastic performance and I know for you what a
great lineup before even got to Brett Young, there was
(18:04):
a restless road in Kilba Calais and somebody got the
great out there. That event itself was fantastic. Talk about
that for me.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean, I still this last year and a half
has been real weird because I'm like, is that did
I do that? And CMA Fest the year before, I
self submitted myself online praying. I was like, maybe I'll
get something, and they let me have the spotlight stage
and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. And
then the next year, not only did I get invited
and got to do Reverb stage the day before and
(18:33):
then or the same day that night they were like,
You're gonna be on the Brett Young and Friends lineup
and I was like, I'm Brett Young's friend for tonight.
What So basically, I like rarely get nervous. In fact,
I get more excited to just be like my home
of the stage. I get to be myself that show.
(18:53):
I was sweating and I was just like I don't
want to like, I don't want to be the wame friend,
don't want to be the weird friend. And then got
to do my set and at the end, I uh,
we found out that we all come out on stage
and sing with him, and I was like, so I
basically I was in We were all waiting and my
homies Restless Road and I'm sitting there with my dream
(19:15):
Idol Kolbe and Gavin and I'm like, what is happening
in Lily Rose? And I was like, cool, Jalen, I
was not so cool when I went out with everybody
at the end of the night and everybody looks like
we're doing this and then there's me and the photos
with the artist pass on my neck. That's just like,
I'm the artist. I'm here, supposed to be here, so
(19:38):
all the photos it's just like you just see me
with this artist thing. And I'm like, I wasn't the
cool friend. I was the lame friend but overall coolest experience.
He's the nicest guy ever. And I still can't believe
that that I got to do that. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I love it too. More opportunities, you know, Seemafist twenty
twenty five. It's coming up here June fifth to the eighth.
I've seen things after you guys have probably teased so far,
but anything you've let the cat out of the bag.
As far as plans for you this.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Year, well, this year I got invited. I'm like, you
guys invited me twice, now me, but I went from
the Reverb stage and now I got I get to
go to the Doctor Pepper the Amp stage, and I
just still am like what because it's just every year
it is like I have my dream scenarios or like
fanfare I'll be at I think that Big Machine and
(20:27):
Harbor are doing their annual things, so I'm sure that
I'll do some some sets here and there. But it's
just like the Doctor Pepper stage and then you have
like there's like the river front after that and in
the stadium and I'm.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
Just like we're inching up there, and I'm like what,
So the Doctor pet I thought Reverb and everything last
year was I was like I'm happy with this, so
that it was I found out the Doctor Pepper stage
and I was like, okay, so definitely catch be at
the Dr Pepper stage.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That's where I'll be all.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right, I'm gonna get out there. Can I come and
just be a guest.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I've got to get on stage with me, be rare, bere.
You got to come up and do like you got
to soothe the audience by just speaking. We can do that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I would love to do that, just to have a
little fun and then m see the thing I've done that,
It shows we got a tough thing. I'm going to
the Golden Nugget and like Charles Louisiana this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So, I mean, I don't know who makes the rules,
but I'm like, if I if I have my way,
I'm like, you come up on stage. I'm like, I'll
freaking take it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'll take it. Hey, Hannaway, we can make an arrangement
on that too as well. We'll talk to the powers
that be and see if they want to do that too,
which is great. You know, this business is is definitely
one of the hardest things that you guys do out there,
either a male female artist. But I love the fact
that the one to get your comment on it because
the female side of it now is blowing up so big.
We mentioned Landy Wilson and of course Ashley Cook, Hannah
Ellis yourself right there included, and so many more. Then
(21:52):
we don't have time to mention out there doing their thing.
The women empowerment movement talk about just what that means
for you as an artist and specifically in the music business.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, it's funny because like my mom when I
was little, she was just like, it's a hard world
either way. Don't ever think anything or like, just just
try your best and do your best and just keep going.
Don't see anything different. And I was just like, I
didn't know what that meant. And as I got into
the industry and the pop side of things and being
(22:21):
a female, I was like, okay, like I feel like
this doesn't happen to the male species. But I was
like it's fine, we're all we're doing their thing. And
then I got to country and I was like, okay,
like it feels it feels like it feels a little different.
And I was, but it's also like the audience and
(22:42):
the consumer it's so it's one of the one genres
where it's like it's fan base that's so welcoming no
matter what. It's just a good song, and they're like
that's what they want. And I think that's what's amazing
is now these females with social media and getting to
show who they really are, and like you get to
(23:05):
know them really in this day and age with the music.
Like Ella is one of those writers that I'm like, wow,
and then you have Laney and it's but they're all
so different and it's just like and there's room for everyone,
and it's really really cool because it's like and then
you have the male artists that are backing them up,
like Lacey K. Parker McCollum, like like, I mean, Chris
(23:28):
Young advocated for me and it was just like, I've
never had that and that doesn't really happen. And I
think that's the beautiful thing about country is that no
matter male female, if you write a great song, it's
going to break through. And the females right now across
the board are just coming in hot. They got something
to say and they're being heard and it's about tap.
(23:50):
So I couldn't love it more because I'm excited that
I get to be in this era of music with
such strong female presence.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, she's got something to say here. It's called let
Me Let You Shla come out there too off the
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(24:21):
I always say these words, crank it up here it is.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It's been pretty odd for me.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Hate the way you in, the things the ain't going
on a couple of days, didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Go past a couple of dress.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Why do I keep piling in on your.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Moving? What the hell you?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Or?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
You don't let me break ways down on paysing you had?
And I'll play mocked ong wm.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
A dollar listen mean game?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Why you gotta let me every time?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I'm trying so funny show no lat name show y'all
all I think got young by.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Ain't the one eating them down drunk sending you I
want to bag songs?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, I ain't giving yours.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
You're the one tell hold you don't let anything gonna bother.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Me, y'all, don't want me bad anymore?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
You don't let me think way down on paysing you had?
And I'll pay mocked door, we a doll way and
listen to me game. Why you gotta let wi the
doll at the time I'm trying so funny Shore, you'll
lack men shung God, don't all that bank that? Wow?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Why do I keep heeling from yours gonna do? I'm
moving on? What the hell are you trying to do?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
You know you're letting me God bound me.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
You don't want that stambo. You're let me play my
JN pasing be loveg w A t deal with me? Gay?
Why you gotta let bakedown at the time I'm signing?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's so funny, so got let me ask you?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Y'll me as y'all gon.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Olla.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
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Speaker 10 (27:44):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hey back here, Shlan joining us here on the backstage
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(28:17):
We're there at the backstage past and now top forty
over in Europe in the country of Denmark, So make
sure you're playing that Shale and music out there too
and Shale Music dot com. Let me let you my goodness,
you take them on a ride, just like you did
to tell you the truth. And these two songs are fantastic.
I just can't wait for this full length album and
this record to come out because again that music just
resonates so well with the fans out there, myself included.
(28:40):
But this one here, I really told the story talk
about this.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
One for me.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
This one was so fun this day because I truly
I got to make this with Brett Tyler and Lindsay Rhymes,
and that's already like two of some of my favorite
humans in this town. But it was I came in
with this title of like what did I It was like,
let yeah, let me let you go is what I
walked in with. And the way we hooked it in
(29:08):
the whole day of just being like how do we
say this? Like I just this. It's like, especially in
my life, the men I've chosen, it's like the second
I'm like, all right, I think we're coming out of
this depressive hole, and then it's like I'm gonna go
on a date. I'm gonna do it, and I just
get out there and it's like there's this radar that
(29:29):
these men have, and I swear to the Good Lord,
I'm like, why are you popping back up right now?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Why?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And it's like they can feel that you're about to
move on, and I'm just like and every time I
fall for it, not in this chapter, I'm like, I
am done falling for you. But I will say the
tattoos and they like, you could mess up my life.
I'm like, just tie me up, absolutely, and that song
is a reflection of basically, I have this thing where
(29:59):
when I write this, when I finally write it and
I put it out there, I have to stick to it.
And I'm just like, so we are not going to
fall for that, and that's kind of let me let you.
All of these are like I'm like shedding chapters of
myself when I write songs because they're just from my journal.
So every time I'm just like, all right, like been
there before, I'm like, no more knuckle tattoos, especially live
(30:21):
Fast and that one was just like no more falling
for the radar or like the two am like you up?
I'm like, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I'm dead, poor gast the next few years from me.
If you can't, we'll put a little prognostication on it.
Grandall lopry. We're doing some things there and of course
some things it can be kind of put the little
crystal ball there. What you want most out of this
big career.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I want to be able to cut my parents a
check one day and say go on a trip and
retire and give. It's not expected. Your parents don't expect that,
but I just like the things that they've done for me.
Is actually my mom and raising me and most of
the time being both parents, and I just want to
be like, here, go retire because this is what I wish.
(31:09):
I could give you everything that you did for me.
So that's that's the one of the two things. Second
thing would be that I get to stand on a
stage every night of my life because I can never
there's not announce to me that gets tired of it.
I want to hear people's stories. I want to sing
my journal pages and feel that feeling of like we
all became one feeling in person tonight and we all
(31:33):
came together, which is really cool. And then I want
to take that and I want to make these centers
in La New York and Nashville, and I basically want
to like open up a crash course school for anybody
that wants to get in entertainment and a lot of
the things that you got to find out by trial
and error. I'm going to do that with like certain
things attached to it. And I want to write a
(31:56):
book that I finally get to tell my life story
because it is is it's a book worth he could
be a movie at this point. And then I want
to obviously the win a Grammy I want to or
like a ACM CMA is all the things. I want
to be at all the things and become a grand
(32:18):
old if remember one day. I know that's a long
way down the road. And then I also want to
be a part of every charity that I can that
is special to me. And basically I just want to
hope God willing that I'm successful in this career so
that I could just go and help people. That's all
I want to do.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's all you can. And you know what, she's just
a great artist out there too, doing her thing out
there writing great music. And I gotta ask you about
another one. Take us back a little bit, do it
right the first time? What a title? First song? My goodness,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you. This one right now in this season is
like extra, just like because it's I've lost both my
Mimi and Papal this months back to back, and they
were my absolute world and one of the huge reasons
I got to even go out to LA because they
if I needed help for that first month, like they
(33:12):
were right there. They prayed for me every day and
it was It's such an interesting thing to reflect on
a song that at the time I got to show them,
thankfully while they were here still, but I'd got right
before I moved to Nashville. I went through earth shattering
like life breaking my heart a specific person. I was
at the lowest of lows, and for the first time
(33:35):
I realized I was like, these two have been married.
Because I called my mom. I was like, what do
I do? She was like, listen, I don't have all
the answers, but I'm going to tell you who you
should go to. And Miammi and Papal were ninety seven,
both of them when they passed, and they had been
married seventy six years and not a day that they
didn't spend together. They were best friends and truly the
(33:58):
example of like wow that exists and showed me how
to be or like at least an example of what
you should do for others. So I went to see
them right like before I wrote this song and was like,
what is it? Give me the SECRETA was like, laugh
a lot, don't take too much too serious, and he
(34:19):
was like, and try your best and do it right
the first time so you don't have to do it again.
And I was like, and then it was crazy. A
year later, the writers Sean, Katie and Chris. Sean had
a similar story with his grandfather and we landed on
the title and it just it wasn't an easy one
to write, but it is one of my favorite songs
(34:39):
that I have because it's just so there's so many layers,
so that one in this season it means more than
I even realized it would.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, I love it too because again this other titles,
these titles that keep coming up but are just great
for songs too. And love the lyrics and the cowboys
never cry. This is another one of those things to
worry you know what. I'm a guy. I'm not saying
the cowboy, but hey, look grew up in the country.
But I'll say, look man, we can we can't shed
some tears. But again, the title itself and what you
did with the song on the entire arrangement, I love it.
(35:10):
It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Thank you so much. That one that was with me
and my boys Seth and Evan, And it's funny I
walked in. Initially I was like kind of playing with
the idea of making making cowboys cry, and then I
was just like the way it evolved, and then like
Seth doing what he does best with lyrics when I'm
(35:32):
he did it with what if I don't too, because
I came in with like, waterproof mascara is the like
I couldn't stop buying it. I was like, all right, girl,
we've cried the eyelashes off every day, so now it's
waterproof mascara. That and how he like all of us
together because it depends on the rooms every day every time,
like one addition or like somebody missing can throw it
(35:53):
all off and you don't know. You just never know
when you're walking in. So it's so fun. And we'd
like teetered on this idea and then it developed into
this and it was basically like which is crazy. When
I shared it on TikTok, mostly every comment was guys
that were just like we do cry in the car
(36:13):
and I was like, why okay, like all right, and
I was just like the public comments. I was like,
do they know that they people could see this? So
that was just but I didn't realize what like market
it kind of hit because I do think like as
we wrote it, and Seth and Evan were both like, man,
I do wish it was like it felt more like
(36:34):
I could publicly cry the amount of times I want to,
and I was just like, I wish that. The guys
cried over me in front of me, and then it
just came out to where like we got this, and
then when we were listening back, it was like eight
hours goes by and you're like, did I do that?
Did we write that?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
That one?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
The melodies especially have become some of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I'll tell you what, I love it so much. All
one of the new stuff comes out in the full
length album. We're gonna have to have you back here
on this very program to break it down and talk
about all the songs. I know you're busy, you got
that that thing called a schedule, that something, Yeah, you
know it. You know how it goes. But I tell
you what, my privilege here to an honor to have
you here on the backstage past and definitely looking forward
to just having you back on talking about more great projects.
(37:21):
She's one of the hottest artists out there in the
female category right now. Shalin Music, Dot Comics, you guys
check her out across all the DSPs, give her a
life on social media. My privilege and my treat to
have you here on the show. Thank you so much
for being with us, and sure appreciate the time to
talk music and talking about everything you've got going on
for twenty twenty five. And I hope to see you
in person at CMA Fest.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You better and I'm serious. I'm like, depending on I'm like,
whoever's running it. If I'm allowed, I'm like, he's coming up.
That's it. So consider it done and get on that friend.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well, I'll text her.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Like know you who?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm like, you run the show. I it's all good.
Tell me if it's cool. But as far as like
if we can and that's like a thing, then consider
it done. So let's you know time and place where
to be.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, Well, we'll make it out there to the big
stages out there against Shalley Music dot com for all
the tour dates and tickets, and of course check out
the music across all the digital streaming platforms. More great
music coming up here as we spend more here too,
KISW Country right there, tar Hereworldnetwork dot Org and of
course KKTC True Country out there to ninety nine point
nine in Tauas, New Mexico KYB in ninety eight point one,
(38:28):
your big area broadcasting network. Take care God Bless and
more great music coming up here from the Backstage Past,
powered by the Sports Guides podcast dot com. Will see
you soon, Take care, God bless.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
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