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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Shaye Fisher here and you're listening to
the award nominated Backstage Pass KKTC True Country ninety nine
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out the show on KISW Country and TWN dot org.
So happy to be here, cannot wait to chat to
you all and have a great time.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
She is the new host of the Backstage Pass right there.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
My gosh, we're gonna have to these live deals. We'll
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Lordie, Well, I'll tell you what. It's awesome to have
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of course the TWN dot org Shay talked about, and
(00:51):
it's Shaye Fisher here on the show. She's back. We
got some music talk about how you do it?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am doing great and I am so pumped to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Off air, we were talking about how you've you've know
my music for forever.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I feel like I'm just hanging out with a friend
right now. So this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're gonna have a lot of fun over these next
twenty or thirty minutes or so. But late, let's go
back a little bit. You mentioned a little bit of
the history of being in this business for a long time,
and back to the first record deal that I've followed
you ever since twenty fifteen, since the album Shay came out,
which I loved it too, for Easy Come, Easy Go
and taking some of those great songs and you know,
making them your own two and Suitcase and all these
songs that were just out there popping the charts too
(01:27):
back in the day. But kind of a part here too,
the history for people that may not know Shae Fisher
and the markets. And I listened to what did that
bug kind of bite for music? And you knew you
had an instrument kind of behind that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, So let me give you a quick overview.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
For those that don't know anything about me, my accent's
very confused because I'm originally from Australia. I grew up
in a roadio family. My dad's Australian champion bull rider.
My mom's Australian champion bow racer. So from as young
as I can remember, I've been horseback. My family actually
moved to the US when I was nine years old.
My dad competed in the PBR bull writing in the US,
(02:03):
and that was really where I first was introduced to
country music. Obviously, it was still cassettes, which makes me
feel super old.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We'll just say it was just it was the radio.
But I remember that great nineties music and I just
fell in love with it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, whether it was a hairbrush I was using
or you know, horse fly spray, I had something in
my hand and I was singing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But ironically, you know, when I moved home to Australia,
I thought, you know what this is it, I'm gonna
be a country music singer. And it just wasn't the
case because I didn't win anything, and they were like, well,
you're too different, you sing with too much of a twang,
You're not like everybody else. And part of me wanted
to be like, honestly a little bit butt heard about that.
But then I realized like, well, this is really good.
(02:47):
If I'm different, this could be in my favor one day.
So I just kept entering and I tried not to
worry too much about the losses.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I was like, you know what, talancost scene is
not for me.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So then I decided I did to start singing the
national anthem at rodeos, kind of a little bit like
a read a story, because that's what she was doing.
So I would sing the national anthem at rodeos and
then I would go and compete. And I remember being
at a rodeo in the outback of Australia and there
was a big two of us popped there. Security was
way less back in those days, and I said to
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my parents, I was like, you know what, I'm going
to go and knock on this two of us door
and see if this guy will let me be his
opening act.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Lo and behold.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He actually came to the door, and of course I
was like, hey, my dad's an Australian champion. I'm not
just some creepy person knocking on your two of us door.
Can I sing before you? And he was like, well,
do you have a band. I'm like no, I'm like
I have I have karaoke tracks. He's like okay, so
but he put me on stage.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Two hours before he went on, there was three people
in the crowd and two of them with my parents,
But I performed like there was ten thousand people. And
he literally that night had asked my parents and it's like, hey,
does she want to does she want to come on
as my opening act. I was like fourteen years old.
I mean, I was cowgirl through and through. Knew nothing,
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and he was doing the same run of Rodeo as
we were doing performing.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I ended up being on.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
His tour and from there, from there we just formed
such a great friendship and my parents agreed to let
him be my manager and we wrote my first album
together while I was on his Australian tour.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I was just doing cover songs.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I didn't have many songs written, and yeah, and then
we him and my parents paid for my first record.
We went to National Flud to Nashville, recorded my first record,
and then came home and he pitched me to record labels,
and to my amazement, I got.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
A record deal at sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And but you know, it just showed me that it
doesn't matter if if you have all the degrees and talent,
and you know, I just had had drive, and I.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Was confident in my differences.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And yeah, then that next four years, honestly, it was
just it was a whirlwind. You know, still in school,
I was touring, I was you know, I think people
just I was very different. This was before Taylor Swift,
so there just wasn't even anybody young, and I was
in Australia, and so people gravitated towards it. And I
had several songs go number one, and so I was
(05:19):
definitely thrown into it at a young age and thought,
you know, I don't want to say I thought I
was untouchable, because I wasn't. But everything seemed to be
moving so forward, so easily. So when I got my
American record deal and that kind of came to me,
I was like, well.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Look out, I'm going to be the next Tailor Swift.
But God had different plans, because I did. I packed
up and I.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Moved my life to America and I was I did
the three month radio tour and had all my band
here and then we were about three weeks into releasing
my single and the record label shuts down. Literally my
song was like one of the third highest added songs
at radio when it was coming out.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It was doing great.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And then I'm telling you, I still remember that phone
call like a sky's limit to bam, your record level
shut down?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Now what?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And I was like, oh my gosh, like my whole
world was taken from me.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I had no idea what I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I was stuck in a strange country at the time,
and I had to ship my band home and tell
my manager there was no longer, you know, a position
for him. And then I just I just sat for
a minute and I was like, now what.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's one of those stories too, And you look back
and you start thinking to yourself too. You took a
chance on yourself. And no matter how young or how
old somebody is, you know, it's amazing to keep pursuing
what you want to pursue and really not having a plan. B.
Although some people work those extra jobs and they jump
through a bunch of hoops, you know, just to put
food on the table for their families, it's pretty cool
to still do what you love to do and just
(06:54):
have that grind and that work ethic. And you've shown
that throughout your entire career. And I go back to
and you may have talked about this in a long time,
but I even go back to every Day Girl and
I'm Not Your Last Time. This may have been brought
up to as well, but a better place. One of
my favorite songs off of there too, just the Excuse
talk about just what you remember best about that record too,
and just also you learn so much as an artist
(07:15):
from putting out the first project up until the single
as Ads of now Right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, So, I mean that first album is still so
special to me. Obviously I wrote most of the songs on
the album, but at the same point, it was such
an interesting time because I was creating music to release
to radio, yet I was writing about heartbreaking love and
I hadn't experienced a whole lot of that at sixteen,
(07:40):
yet my co writers had. So I was basically learning
about life experiences through my songwriting of like, hey, this
is what I'm going to be facing soon. But seeing
how people could relate to what I was writing and
singing about was is always still so amazing to me
and just so rewarding. You said the song every Day Girl,
(08:00):
You know, obviously people haven't heard it. If you listen
to it, it just explains how I felt like I was,
like I'm I'm just an everyday girl. And that's kind
of like I said, I was like just a cowgirl.
I got this record and I'm like, oh my gosh,
now what. So I feel like songwriting's always been very
therapeutic for me. Lot songwritings about life experiences as well
(08:21):
as other experiences. But man, that first album, it's just
it was just it just felt like a wild ride
because I was going from barely singing on stay singing
cover songs and then looking out in the audience and
seeing thousands of people know the words in my songs
and just like wow, how did I even get here?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But it was just truly because like from a.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Young age, my dad, I mean my dad rebolls he
was forty, that's not really heard of. My dad always
was like the sky's the limit if like you're the
only one that can stop yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I never had the fear of failure.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I guess you could say I was okay with failing
because I knew I was going to but I knew that,
like that's just one step to where I'm gonna get,
you know.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's even like with.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know, that second album, obviously, my music became a
lot more deep, and I felt like I had more
life experiences, but I'm not gonna lie. When you're with
record labels for ten plus years, you're definitely guided what
to say, what to sing about, what to do, what
to wear. You're very guided as an artist, and it's
not a bad thing. But I felt like some of
(09:27):
the songs I was recording may not have been as
close to me as other songs that I didn't put
on the album. But obviously it's what people want to hear,
so you kind of have to do what you're told. So,
you know, when that record label shut down, I don't
want to say I was bitter, but I just felt
like my opportunity got taken from me. I literally not
(09:50):
getting stepped away for a couple of years. Were like,
I mean, I stayed in Nashville in the meantime I
was songwriting. I knew that if I want to to
stay and do this, I had to figure out how
to make money. So then I, you know, I called
my parents and I knew they had a belt buckle
company in Australia, and I was like, hey, like, could
I use your factories if I started a belt buckle company?
(10:11):
And my Mom's like, sure, go ahead and start a
belt Buckle Company.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You're a singer, but you why not?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So I remember I would songwrite during the day and
be writing all these songs, and then at night I'd
be sitting at Panera Bread until it closed, just cold
calling these rodeo associations, trying to, you know, make enough
money to pay my rent and my bills. And I
would go back and forth to Texas because I knew
people there, but just trying to figure out that next
step look like, because I knew I could move home
and have a career there, but I had felt like
(10:38):
I had already had such a great opportunity in career
in Australia that I feel like when doors open, it's
for a reason and when they close as well. But
I just didn't feel like I was called to move
home at the time. I kept releasing, but I really
still felt led to be in the States, so I stayed.
Started the belt Buckle Company made a whopping thirty thousand
a year for the first couple of years, but that
(10:59):
was exactly what I needed to make to pay my
rent and my food and to survive. And in the
meantime I could figure out what I wanted to do.
I was like well, I'm a rodeo girl, so I'm
going to get involved in modeling for some of these
Western brands and do some interviewing for some of these
companies like TV commentary.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So it took me. It took me to Texas a lot,
and I actually met my husband when I was at
Houston Rodeo. He was competing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For those that don't know, my husband's a world champion
ty down roper and he always was the pink shirt
in the arena.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
But funny, funny story, So, I.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Mean I knew he wore pink, I knew who he was,
clearly I knew Rodeo. But I was like, he's a
nice guy. I was like, I was used to dating,
Like obviously when we're young, US girls will just pick
the wrong people and date the bad boys. But he
was like the kind that you would want to marry.
And I was like, I'm not there yet, poor Tyson.
Literally a year to get my phone number. Now we
(11:56):
would message on Facebook and I would answer every question
but my phone number until I needed tickets to rodeo
one day for my parents, and then he was like, Hey,
if you want these tickets, we're going to go to
break He said no. He said, if you want these tickets,
we're going to go to dinner. And I was like, no,
breakfast is way less sexual.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
We're going to get to breakfast.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We went to breakfast instead, and then I realized he wasn't.
He was still a good guy, but I realized, Okay,
I can give this a shot. But yeah, poor guy.
Oh I'm so glad he was statient with me.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
So glad he was there too. Tyson of course too.
You bet you did a little bit before the show.
We were talking a little bit there. Shit, he's actually
coming out of retirement. Tell folks about that story.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So Tyson was a professional rodeo athlete for twenty years
and he made the national finals thirteen times, won the
world in twenty sixteen, and then he just he retired.
Not because he wasn't still winning. He retired because he
was done traveling two hund thousand miles a year and
being going for two hundred days a year. He just
(12:57):
wanted to be home in Abviously, that was a huge
life change for us, because whether I was either doing
music or he was roady and we were always very
busy on the road.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So we tried normal life and I was.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So it's so funny to me still because I got
back into music at the end of last year and
I was doing some interviews in Vegas and I said,
on one of the interviews, I said, hey, I guarantee
that Tyson's going to come out of retirement in just
a few weeks after having to stay home with the
kids by himself and just hang out and not be
like doing this fun stuff. And then literally two weeks
(13:31):
later he announces he's coming out of retirement.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I'm like, I called it, And he's doing great.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, he's having to start like a like obviously
he's in the Pro League, but he's having to start
like on the lower level because he didn't rodeo last year,
so he's not in the big buildings that take qualifications.
But I think he's actually thriving from it. He's really excited.
He feels like he has several nfrs left in him,
and part of me thinks he just wants the kids
(14:00):
to be able to see him do it, because.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
They just would have been too young to remember any
of that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But yeah, so he's rodeoing, so we're kind of juggling
like he was at San Angelo rodeo last week, and
I was like, you know what I'm gonna in San Angelo,
I'm gonna depressed. So then I was doing a TV
station there he's competing. I duck away to do this
TV and if you I come back. I watched him
compete and we're just like, I mean, we're just all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But it works.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
We both definitely like seeing each other chase their their
dreams and goals.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So you know, what's one more thing to add to
the table.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
What's another thing? Like I said, we got so much
going on in life today, Like I said, keep adding things.
It's one of those things where we just all stay busy.
And like I said, another thing is just on the
docket there to be able to put to that against
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on those affiliates too as well. She was gonna sing
for us today. Honestly, something else occurred there too that
was out of her control at the same time. But
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One and back here, say Fisher, our guest today here.
Can't believe it's already April and we're in the second
quarter of the year. It's amazing this new single take
me back to Texas here on all our affiliates out
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your podcast and the Sports Guys podcast dot com. A
grand slam of music and sports. You know, this one
just has a great feel to it. You tell a
great story in all your songs. We talked about some
of the older records that were out there too at
the same time. Great music, but that connection to music
you've always had, and this song just feels like it
came natural to you. It's telling a great story. Tell
people about it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, it did. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Honestly, over the years, I've always released a lot of
fast music, so releasing a slow song was like.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh man, I don't know what people are gonna think.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But I just felt like being out of the industry
for several years, and I was listening to the songs
that I thought I could release, I was like, this
one actually tells a journey, and it kind of explains
the journey I've been on and where I'm at. So
I felt like it was a perfect way to reintroduce
myself again, a more mature way in my opinion than
some of my other songs. But obviously it talks about
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love finding love in Texas, but it also talks about
for me, it was about the.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Journey I was on when I left astray Or.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I traded my Cowgo boots and hat for high heels
in Nashville and completely changed my image because that's what
I was asked to.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Do with my label. But I just never felt like
I was quite at home, Like I would.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Go out to Kisbrooks's house just to ride a horse
because I just needed to ride a horse, Like I
just was that cowgirl. So for me, this was about
like the yearning of my Cowgo roots and country, and
obviously that was Texas for me because it was such
a quick drive from nash quick drive fourteen hours from
Nashville to go to Texas and feel more at home.
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It brought me back to how I grew up, but
it was Retten. It was really I love looking at
some of these songs I wrote a while ago, because
this song was written with Jesse Joe Dyllon. At the time,
Jesse was just Dean Dylan's daughter who's a hit songwriter.
Now she's a multiple Grammy Award winning songwriter, which is
so stink and cool that I wrote this song with her.
And then I actually had one of Garth Brooks's how
many singers, Caaren Rochelle write with us as well, and
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I knew I needed people that understood the country cowgirl lifestyle.
I wasn't going to just be able to get anybody
in Nashville to help write this song. But you know,
I've had this song sitting for several years and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I just I got to get it out. And you
know the reason I even came back to music.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know, part of the story is I stayed in
Nashville for a while, ended up going to Texas meeting
Tyson had started out companies, they were doing well. Realized
that I didn't just want to stay there. I wanted
to be able to move forward with my life. At
the time, I was a little bit bitter with the
industry because, like I said, I felt like my chance
was taken away unfairly and for me for fifteen years
(22:25):
before that, because I got signed so young, my identity
was in like, oh, how many songs you have it radio?
How many number ones have you had? Like that's my
that was my talking point. So I kind of lost
my identity and had to figure out, well, like.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Who am I?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Then I moved from from singer to Tyson Durfy's wife,
and I was going to help him be the best
he could be to then ow businesses. But I really
had to get to a point where I knew that
my who I was wasn't defined by my number one songs.
And that's when I was able to start to really
fall back in love with music and realize that, yes,
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I'm not sixteen in my primes, but I felt like
I can show people that if you have a dream
or a goal, it doesn't matter how young or old
you are, and honestly you can sit here and be like, oh,
now it's not the perfect time, but is there ever
going to be a perfect time?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
In life, so I you know, and for me, like our.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Daughters are going to get to see their mom chasing
their dreams and the song. I wasn't sure releasing the
song how it would do. I'm so blessed. The song's
doing great on Australian radio and it seemed to be
people are really enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
But I didn't know. I was like, this could flop.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But I will always be able to say that I
tried and I gave it that one more attempt at
doing it, and I didn't just sit back and I
don't want to be seventy and say what if?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But this is a really special song. It really is.
I actually flew over my Australian music director.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'd worked with a ton to Texas and he came
to our ranch and shot the music video and he
also we shot it on our ranch and then Ty
Murray's ranch and tis very well known in the rodeo industry.
He's a many time world chance. So it's cool just
kind of being our element shooting this video and having
all of our friends and you know, and how people involved.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Now it's a great song too. I'm glad it's doing
well in your home country. Too, and to definitely I
hope that you know, music grows some of those charts
up there too, And we'll pick this up too, if
they haven't already, to at least discussions, because this thing
is is hot. And we'll say, like I said, because
I know my music very well. You guys know, I
do a lot of interviews with a lot of great
artists here on the show, and when I like the
song and get behind it one hundred and ten percent,
and this one's got that feel for just telling a
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story kind of good just Garth Brooks or George Strait
type song. Let me ask you about this when it
comes to all the great females into industry who are
just kicking at right now, and there's so many of
them that are just the list is just too long
to name. But let's start with the queen yourself. I'll
say right now, the queen will always be Reba, but
the current queen right now is Lady Wilson. And you
know I had her on the show here back before
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all this blew up in like twenty twenty I think
it was, or somewhere in there. I just curious to
ask you about your thoughts and kind of feelings and
emotions when you see them women kind of going through
this girl power movement right now? What does that do
for you?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I love it. I mean it is so encouraging.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
When I came to Nashville and I had my deal,
it was not that that way us, us girls and women,
we we had to fight hard for it. We our
record labels are like, hey, every ten songs that are
getting played, guys, there's gonna be one girl like figure
out how to stand out. It's just such a it's
so much more of an even playing field now, which
I love good music's good music, and I just love,
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for example, take Lanny Wilson's story, like it just it's
hilarious to me that she got turned down by Idol
so many times and all these things, and now she's
like the biggest act there is.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And it's like, like, it's not about what other people
think of you. It's just it has to be the
right time and the right song.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
It used to be so important to be with a
major record label if you wanted success, But the way
the industry is now, any artists can upload their songs
to iTunes as long as the song's getting streamed. I
literally had a conversation just the other day where a
pretty powerful manager in Nashville, and I was just as
a friend.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I was asking him, Hey, what what do I need
to do? Where are we at?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And he's like, honestly, he's like, it's all about streaming.
He's like, it don't matter if you have a record
label or not. If your songs are getting streamed, that's
all people care about. So it's just such a different
industry right now. I feel like the nineties. It's a
lot like the nineties because there was a lot of
girl power in the nineties as well. But what I
like the most, honestly is it's like it's a girl
pella movement, but it's not all like all these songs
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these girls are singing are like girls the best boy suck.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Sometimes when it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Gets girl powish, it's like, ah, all about girls. But
these songs are just great songs and they can relate
to girls and guys. And I just I love Laney
will Summon. I'm a huge fan. Obviously, I'm Queen Reeba
all the way. But it's a really really exciting time
in the industry for any artist.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Honestly, Yeah, let's go back to a few of these
songs that really, you know, define you back in the day.
Twenty two thousand and nine, Don't chase Me. I want
to get the story of this one too, because I
really still today have this one on my playlist.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yes, so this song was so fun. This song was
written by a lady that I lived with in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
When I first moved to Nashville and I was in
between my record label shut down, I had to send
everyone home and I was by myself. This lady had
written this song for me, Tammy Hyler, and she reached
out to me and she's like, Hey, I'm just a.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I'm a country girls, me and my daughter. You want
to come live with us? I was like Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I lived way outside of Nashville and a ranch
with her and it was fabulous but love recording this song.
Funnest memory for me was shooting the music video because
I remember the record label giving me two choices. One
was Trey fan Joy, and obviously I was If you
don't know Trey, she is a bazillion time music Director
of the Year shows Keithub and Taylor Swift. She's love Story,
(27:46):
Miranda everything. But I knew her stuff and when they
mentioned her name, I don't even know who the other
the director was, they said, because I was just like
one lane. But so we literally fly out to California.
We had like a truth window to get this shot
because I had to be home touring in Australia and
it was middle of winter. We had all these big
fires going on this football field because we're all like
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in these clothes, cheerleading clothes, and but it was so cold.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
But we made it work. But it was it was
such a fun thing.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I remember the radio station saying to me, this is
going to be a song that people are going to
love or hate. There's not going to be any in
between line because it was just so different. If you
haven't heard it, my song literally had a cheerleading chant
in it. But it was one of those ones they said.
It was like when Shanaya came out, people either loved
her or hated her.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It was just kind of is what it is. So
I was all about the challenge. I was like, you
know what, bring it on, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Obviously it was a little different because it wasn't my
cargo roots, but I mean the concept in the storyline
is like any of us girls like don't lead us
on on, like just.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
We you know, be straightforward and you know we're all in.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But obviously a lot of my younger music was very
relation ship and boy vibes, which you know, obviously as
a something year old girl, that's kind of where it's at.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But yeah, it was. It was my first.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Song that did well on CMT in the US, and
I remember being in my house with my guys and
being like, oh my gosh, that's my face on CMT.
I was like just so excited about the situation because
as a little girl, you you know, we watched CMT
in Australia as well, and so that that was a
pretty thrill moment.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I used to live in Hendersonville in the Lake, and
I still remember seeing my song on CMT.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I remember those days too, Like I said, that makes
me feel my age right now too.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, we're still in our twenties, our mid twenties, right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, we'll call it. Hey, we're still lucky enough to
get up in the morning and go to the gym
and put a workout.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm good for that because I'm I'm back. The last
six months, I've been taking a lot of the circuit
training and hit classes and I'm lucky. I'm still it
out forty five. I can still get up and do that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Honestly, it's super impressive. That's the thing. I have a
fitness group, like it's called Shade Fisher Fitness.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But I started it after having the kids because the
first two kids, I was like, oh, this was easy
to bounce back, it was nothing. But our third child,
I was like, lordie, this is hotter than they say.
So I started figuring out like how to be able
to do that because I'm not somebody that was going
to diet and spend countless hours in the gym.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
But I kind of had to train my mindset about it's.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Not what I have to lose, it's what I have
to gain through it. So it made the process easier.
So I did. I started to call a woman that
I have like workout videos and like eating tips and
it's not dieting but the right way to eat. And
I love it because I'm seeing like people messaging me
showing me the results and stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
It's super.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I don't know, I just I like helping other people
and I like sharing knowledge and obviously you know there's
something I know that I can share.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm all about putting it out there. I mean, if
you follow me on social media.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
My family doesn't have much of a filter or a
We're just it's all out there for the whole world
to see.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It is no doubt. Like I said, love the tips
you give out there too, and like I said, we're
doing some of those same workouts, so I know, like
I said, what I got from you is working for
me because it's always getting to those personal trainers out there,
to following their advice and kind of a meal plan
and you know, going more leaning with like chicken and
fish and staying away from like all the red meat
out there too. I know it's hard because we live
in Texas down here too. We love our crawfish and
our steak and things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I bring it on.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
In moderation. We got to eat those eat those things, dude.
We'll take our final time out come back. We'll talk
about some of the classics there too. I'm gonna roll
back to from the Australian days to including one called
Being with My Baby, which came out back in the
day too as well. That Mixes was still in our twenties.
But you know, actually when we were worried every one
back then too, more che Fisher, it is the Backstage Past,
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Speaker 3 (32:22):
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And final second here Shane Fisher joining us here the
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(32:51):
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do out there. So I mentioned there too, back to
the Shay album in twenty fifteen, and I got to
talk about one being with My Baby, because you mentioned
about the boys' songs and things like that and going
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through the heartbreaks and the relationships and kind of in
and out and you know, being with the guy friends
back then. But when this came out in twenty fifteen,
I loved this song.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah. So this song's kind of fun because it was
actually written with Taylor Swift. That's why it has the
It just has the sound. It's just got the Taylor
son y'all, and she actually put a version out as well,
I think on we both recorded it, and she put
a version out too many years ago. So it's really
(33:44):
fun when I see all these like, you know, like
her little fan page girls and they have her Kayler
Swift fan pages, and they're always like, did you hear
this version this other girl sings? And they're they're putting
me on there, and I'm like, y'all, just put me
first note. But it's a great song. Love it one
of my funnest ones live at the time. Obviously, I
was it was younger on that one when we wrote
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it was like twenty twenty one, so that one definitely
connected with that age of women.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And uh yeah, I mean who doesn't like a good
love song? I mean, come on, let's be real here,
do we do?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
No doubt a couple more we'll ask you about because
you and I consider to talk all day and say, well,
I know your music, and I know a lot of
artists music out there too that I haven'ten followed for years.
Another Day in the Sun, got gotta just a little
bit on this one.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Wow, Yeah, like way rewind this Okay? Lordy, I was like,
that's not the song I thought you'd say.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So Yes, I wrote that one with my tour manager
and the gentleman I said that I was on a
tour with and obviously him and I both loved the
beach the sun, so a lot about songs when we
were writing. There were this like country cowgirl vibe mixed
with the beach and the lake and the sun. And
my favorite season of the year is definitely summer. I
(34:59):
don't if it's because I grew up in Australia, but
we love the sun and swimsuits and all the fun
stuff that comes with it. So I'm glad that we
live somewhat near lake in Texas because I wouldn't this
girl wouldn't hope if we just had the ranch.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And no pool and lake and things like that. But
that was a fun song.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, you know, listen back and obviously when we made
albums back then, your albums were about twelve songs, so
there was probably five songs that we knew were gonna
be singles, and then that was what we would call
ol filler songs. Obviously you still wanted them to be great,
but those filler songs don't always get like the same
amount of airtime, and some people don't even even know
those so I'm like super impressed you even know those songs,
(35:40):
which is very impressive.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I'm going to tell you a little secret.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So the next single that's coming out, it's called Alan Cowboy,
and I wrote that one with Walker Hayes, who I'm
good buddies with, and Walker and his guitarists actually helped
produce it.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Super fun music video.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
My husband makes a little cameo of the bar scenes.
But I'm really I mean, I love this song, but
but I'm really excited for the next song as well,
because you know, it's just it's a fun cowgirl song
and obviously anything Walker does is great.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
So yeah, you heard it first here, I'll I'll have
to sneak you a little sneaker.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
And you got to come back on here and talk
about it if you will, do we got to talk
about Yes, we have a you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Know, we have a busy summer ahead we have between
the rodeos.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It's a big rodeo in Nashville coming up in May,
and my husband and I should both be competing in
it because I compete in rodeo as well, so I'll
be there doing competing and doing pr and then between
us touring. Last week I did a show with Eastern
Corbyn which was a lot of fun. So hoping to
get out playing more shows. That's kind of the goal,
is to be out on the road seeing more people.
My favorite part of being a musician has always been performing,
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so that that's what I'm most excited about this year.
So fingers crossed. We get booked on some some good
shows and festivals and rodeos and you know, we get
to hang out with.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Everyone there look forward to all. 'm gonna go back
a little bit more too. This one may be surprising,
it may not like I said, but I loved it
too because it's still on the playlist today. Get Away
Heart's drive in this one.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, that's a fun one. You know the music video
that's out for that.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Actually we shot it while I was on radio tour,
and I keep watching back on that and I keep
showing out daughters. I'm like, hey, look at this, and
it shows like the two of us and what Radio
two is like and performing and definitely brings back a
lot of memories. This one was one of those songs
when I when I you know, once it was recorded,
I was like, this has to go on the album.
(37:35):
It just it made sense with the lifestyle we lived
to being so busy and just from one place to
the next.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
But yeah, get away hat.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's one of my favorite ones. One of the ones
that people always ask me about as well is what
he did to me? If you've heard that I have, Yes, I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Actually a really nice person.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
But when like you're talking like breakup and guys doing
wrong by you and stuff, then like my not nice
I guess you could say, might come out.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But anytime somebody hears the song, they're like, who on
earth did you write that about?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
So I'm like, yeah, I mean if you've had a
if you've like, here's the thing, if you're in a
relationship with a songwriter, you're gonna have a song about you,
good or bad. So it always makes me laugh. I
wonder if such and such knows that song was written
about him, And you.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Know, these people may have no idea. Part of these
almost wants to be like, did you know that song
was written about you? Peace out? You know, like sometimes
you just want to want to let him know.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But yeah, So there was some fun songs on that
second album. I actually have all the songs put together
for the third album. I'm just kind of seeing how
we want to release them. Whether we've got obviously three
singles coming out this year, but whether we want to
branch into more of an EP style or.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
If we want to do a full album.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
But I've got a lot of great songs that we
just wrote over the years that that never never got
to see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
So I'm you know, this is gonna be a fun journey.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Hopefully it's a fun, eventful joy and I get to
let everybody, I guess listen to my.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Emotional therapy songs that I wrote over the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm looking forward to that, no doubt. Hey, we'll have
fun with a couple of questions, because you and I
gave what We're gonna talk. Like I said to the cows,
come home. It's just what we do when it comes
down to it. As far as food goes, Tyson in
you when you get a night on the town, what
do you like to go kind of dine in? What
kind of restaurants?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, so we have a couple options. When I met
my husband, he ate nothing but steak. He was all cowboy.
I mean, I'm telling you it's like I'm.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, but y'all, I've convinced him to eat sushi.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Literally, we love us some good sushi because, like you,
the kids said, I'm not gonna eat sushi. So we
like a good sushi restaurant or we like to go
to Texas aay Brazil. Tyson speaks fluent Portuguese. He's the
widest guy to speak Portuguese I think in history because
my husband's Irish, but he speaks fluent Portuguese because he
did some companies down there.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
So Texas a Brazil or sushi is I like go to?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I like that too. Always good stuff right there too.
All right, gotta ask you about this. I'd be remiss
if I didn't. Rope Swing came out in twenty twenty one.
So much fun with this one. I love the cover
art for it too, with like I said, feet coming
down like a little over after or something like that.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
This.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, this is a great song, and what a great
cover art you put with it too.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
This was actually written with Walker Hayes as well and produced.
The whole song was with Walker, which is fun.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Man. Like I said, I love me some water and
some sun and.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I mean, honestly, I feel like country music is so
great because it just tells a story. And honestly, in summer,
who isn't out there on a rope swing down by
the river or some of my best memories growing up,
you know, even my teenage years were doing that exact
same thing, you know, camping out, you know, back of
the tower gates.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's it's literally like it's like watching a movie.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I feel like country music songs, but this is a
fun one because that cover art I actually shot on
my iPhone sitting on a boat in.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Near Calspell, Montana, on a lake, and I was like,
this is the shot, and I took up my iPhone.
I said it to the to my people and I'm like,
can we work with this?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And they're like, yeah, you just took the cover photo
on your iPhone, I'm like, oh my gosh, in the
world we live in today. But I always wanted to
shoot a music video for this one because I was like,
that would be so much fun seeing how high I
am that rope swing. See if I still have the
athletic ability I did in my younger days. So I
may have to shoot some kind of like iPhone music
video for that one this summer.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I would love to see that too as well. And
I'll tell you what. I hope to see you there
in Nashville, Tennessee. If you're coming out there to CMA
week June fifth to the eighth, the Music City Center.
If you're coming out there you and Ticeon are making
an appearance, look me up because I'll be there and
looking forward to working with you on another side of
maybe some business there too. You and I were talking
about too at the same time. A lot of fun.
The companies are doing great. I love when it's just
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great artists like yourself always at tempt that comeback. It's
like you never left when you look back down to it,
and you're always pursuing that dream. You're so great at it.
Take Me Back to Texas the current single there from
Shae Fisher. You can also check out more at Shay
Fisher dot com, s AH E A f I, s
H t R dot com. We even spell it for
you here on the backstage past so you don't have
to use that thing called Google. Thanks to all the affiliates. Hey,
(42:02):
I appreciate you being here. Looking forward to many more
of these shows and continue success going forward with the companies,
with Tyson and of course the family.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
God bless, Yes, thanks for having me, had a great time.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
You got it. Shaye Fisher here on the backstage past
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