September 9, 2024 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey all, this is Ta Graham Brown and you're listening
to Backstage Past right here on WSM Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Baby, and welcome inside the Backstage Pass another Sunday morning
here on WSM Radio, the home of the Grand Ole Opry.
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(00:32):
please welcome in a legend. We just got to see
him play the Grand Ole Opry. He's done that a
few times. He's the newest member of the Opry too,
as of two thousand and twenty four. And the new
album from Memphis to Muscle Shows comes out on right
there in August there, August second, coming up there too,
our good friend T. Graham Brown to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
T How you doing, brother, I'm doing great man, how
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's good to see you. Like I said, we just
kind of went up there and me and my business
partner at the end of Jim we caught at the
Opry and allway say love leading off their tiers. No
better place to be on any night of the week,
but especially a Friday to a Sunday than the Grand
old Opry too. You know, we talked about this a
country radio seminar. You got the induction of the news
this year. You were the newest member of the Opery,
and I'm sure for you guys, every time you get
(01:14):
up there to headline and sing in front of a
great crowd, it never gets old. And it's just it
was great to see in the audience. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We love going to the Opry, man, Like you know,
like I told you, we've been going out there for
forty years, and to finally be a members just awesome.
And we're gonna do the Opry tonight. As a matter
of fact, they've been caught. It seems like they've been
calling us a whole lot more since the membership thing.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's awesome to be up there on stage, and like
you said, it's never a shortage of a lineup out there.
They always pack it in with a punch when it
comes to like who's opening to who's headlining, And you've got,
like you said, seven to ten acts or something on
their plus comedians and all that good stuff. Never a
dull moment when you sit in the audience, and always
tell people make it a bucket list thing, because if
you've never been, you need to buy a ticket and
put it on your bucket, right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Man, the Opry is a great show, you know, from
beginning to end, and they've what's really cool as they've
put in a whole new PA system and that big
video board video screen behind the stage. And also it's
pretty much a multimedia experience. Yeah, it's a great place
(02:22):
to see a show.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know. Recently, I was talking to some people just
in the industry last week and I got the news
man just tough. I had William Lee Golden on the show.
We did one backstage at the Opry for the Sunday
Morning Country event just a couple of weeks ago there
during CMA week, and man, I'm sure the news hit
you hard, see, just like it hit me the loss
of the late great Joe Bonsel there the Oakridge Boys
for so many years too, and it was a great
(02:44):
tenor singer. I know you've spoken to some different media
outlets about this too at the same time, but just
talk about what Joe meant to you in general in
your career and of course the country music.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, Joe was a great guy man. I guess the
first time I ever worked with the Oaks was probably
nineteen teen eighty seven, maybe something like that, and I've
been out on the road with him. I ain't no
telling how many shows I've done with the Old Ridge
Boys since nineteen eighty seven, and I know them all
(03:14):
very well now. And Joe was just what a great
guy man. He was totally positive all the time and
one of the very best front men in show business period.
And his voice was unique, you know, he didn't sound
like anybody else, and he was just a positive force man.
(03:40):
He lit up a room. He was just one of
those guys you know that you hear about every now
and then. Just nothing. I can't say anything bad about him.
I mean, I don't think I ever saw him in
a bad mood. Just to upbeat, great human being.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, they put out some great gospel music too, And
speaking of gospel, you guys have had a gospel album
out there too as well. Look forward to playing it
on some of our other affiliates out there too.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But you did a great song that night at the Opera.
You perform there at the end of June, and I
loved it. This is back to nineteen ninety eight too,
but when this came out, But Wine into Water talk
about that one. Just every time you take the stage
tea and to light up a crowd and make them
feel something. And that song made me, I said, he
gave me goosebumps that night.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, Whine into Water.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, we wrote that about me, about my struggles
with alcohol and addiction and all that, and miss, I mean,
I was deep into it. But through the grace of
God Almighty and the love of my wife, Sheila Brown,
I'm sober and thank goodness because I'd have probably been
dead if I hadn't straightened up. But you know, Whine
in the Water never was a hit, but it's just
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kind of taking on the life of its own over
the years, and it just continues to help people get
straightened out. Man, I mean, I hear I hear about
it every week. Last week a guy wrote me just
a one one line message. He said, Wine into Water
saved my life. And we were in Minnesota a couple
(05:09):
of nights ago when a lady came up to me
and told me that it really helped her son, and I,
you know, I have people tell me that all the
time behind it kept them from killing themselves and just
all kind of stuff like that, And I hear from
people around the world. There was a guy in India
(05:32):
that got in touch with me that saw the video
on YouTube and made a feature film about wine into
water and it's called Grace And he sent me the
trailer man and it's a heavy duty, serious drug deals
going down and a guy shooting himself in the head
(05:52):
and all this heavy stuff, but it comes out redemption
in the end, and it's just doing its thing around
the world. It's really cool. You know, who would have thought.
But I'm just glad to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It, you know, to you had one of the biggest
hits in country music. We always talk about it because
I love it here on the show too, and we
get together, I tell it like it used to be.
And I think those are some words now back in
the day that we always tell ourselves too when growing up,
at least me and everybody as kids at the same
time from our parents. Uh, that's just kind of like
we'd always want to show that off and say no, no, no, no,
just that's not how it used to be. But then
(06:29):
you look at a song like that, how much it
did for your career. When you look back and you
reflect on a song like that, what comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, I wouldn't even be talking to you if it
weren't for that song. I mean, you know, I sang
the demo on that song over a Tree publishing company
one morning. I remember they paid me twenty bucks for it,
and it set on the shelf. And in the meantime
I got a deal on Capitol Records, and when we
(06:58):
were talking about what we should record, and the guy
that produced that demo was working for Capital by then,
and he said, hey, man, what about I tell it
like it used to be. So we went and got
it off the shelf and went in the studio and
cut it, and Capital put it out and it was
a hit man, and I was kind of off to
(07:21):
the races. I had to hurry up and go back
in the studio. I went down to muscle shows and
finished an album for Capitol. I didn't even have an
album cut. That was just we had that song. And
so once it was a started going up to charts
and the Capital said, man, you need to get in
the studio and finish an album so we can have
an album to put out.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So that's that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But yeah, man, I tell like you know, that's the
first song probably anybody that's a fan of mine ever heard,
and it's it's a crowd favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Man. People remember that song. I'm glad of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But like I said, if it weren't for that song,
I probably wouldn't even be sitting here.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'll tell you what. One of the greatest of all time.
And of course, some new good stuff coming out from
Memphis to Muscle shows. The new album from T. Graham
Brown's coming out that first weekend right there, August second
of twenty and twenty four. And I know you're excited
about this project, but we got to play one right
here on the show for everybody too. It's collaboration you
did with the Great Wind No Nut's called take Me
to the River. Here it is from T. Grahm Brown
on the Backstage Past, exclusively on WSM Radio Am six fifty,
(08:28):
the Home of the Grand Ole Opry.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I don't know why I love you like I do
after all these changes you putting it through you stole
my him and my cigarettes, and I haven't seen.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
How no hell of you yet. I want to know,
won't you tell me and mine and love to say?
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Take me to the river? Why wash me down? Won't
you cleanse my soul? Putting my feet on the ground.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I don't know why he treated me.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
So bad after all the things that we could have had.
Love has a notion that I can't forget, my sweet sixteen.
I will never regret.
Speaker 10 (09:51):
I want to know.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Want to tell me I'm my lowed to stay here.
Chem me to the river behind.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
The wash me dime, o, Lord, put my feet on
the grind.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Hold me, love me, please me, jeez me.
Speaker 11 (10:29):
Till I can't tell cat camps take not my fall,
Take me to the river.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
And wash my dime, putting my feet.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You don't know, Brown, I don't know why I'll love
you like I do after all these changees with you
putting me through the sixteen candles burning on my wall.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Turn me to the figs full of the mop. I
want the Norse watch to tell me, am I in
love to stand?
Speaker 12 (11:19):
Take me to to me ether, wash me down? Won't
you cleanse my soul? Put my feet on the ground,
take me dood river.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Why wash me down?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
So putting my feet feet old Brown, Take.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Me to the river.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
To wash me down?
Speaker 13 (12:01):
Take that to the real.
Speaker 14 (12:04):
Putting my feet Hongo ground, the team to the river,
watch me down.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
The team till the river, pooting my feet. You don't know, broun.
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Speaker 2 (13:38):
And back here with T. Graham Brown on wsm AM
six fifty the home of the Grand Ole Opry too
as well from the Newest grand Ole Opry. Remember every
Sunday morning you catch to show the backstage pass from
five thirty am to six am. Back here with T.
Grand Brown. The new album from Memphis to Muscle Shoals
comes out right there on August the second. But I've
heard a lot of great reviews already from the songs
that are out from this one here from Memphis to
(14:00):
Muscle Shoulders, and I think anytime you look at one
such as we just played for take Me to the
River with the great wine known, and that had to
be just as fun as have one known to come
in and lay down the tracks as it had to
be to sing it live too, right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, one on was great, man, that's a didn't she
do a good job on that?
Speaker 11 (14:17):
She did?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm so proud of her. She's one of the greatest
singers of all time, you know, And to get her
on this record was just sweet, real sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
How did how did that collaboration come together? As far
as you guys talking a little bit behind the scenes
wanting to put this out, I just.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Called her up master. She'd do it, you know, as
simple as that. See, I got every I got everybody's
falling numbers, and we all help each other out. You know,
I knew she'd do it. I didn't have any doubt
about that. But yeah, and she did and did a great.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
You did no doubt too. You know so many great
songs off this record too. Again pre order now of
course that could check out teas the social pages out
there too, you guys as a a pre order link
out there. But I love this sitting on the dock
of the bay. You took one classics of all time
and did this when the Randy Hauser and this one
in the arrangement. I love that the vocals laid down
with this one in the production. Talk about just this
(15:19):
album over all, Tea from Memphis to muscle shows and outside.
You already get some of the best to do 's
because you know a lot of great people, like great
artists you worked with in this album too.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It was fun, man, I went in there just to
do it for the fun of it, just for me.
It's basically what I was doing. Went down to Fame
studios and muscle shows and we cut fourteen old nineteen
sixty soul songs that were either originally cutting Memphis or
muscle shows. And I just was catching up with Dwight
(15:52):
Yoakam one day after I'd gotten back from doing these tracks,
and you know, he was asking me what I've been
up and I told him, and he asked me if
I had cut this song called I'm Your Puppet, and
I said, yeah, man, matter of fact I did. And
he he said, can I sing all that?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Now? I went had to kill you and sing all it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So he went into a studio out in Hollywood and
did his duet part, and then he went back and
sang harmony throughout the whole song. He's a perfectionist. He
did a really good job. And then once once he
did that and I heard it, I thought, man, maybe
I ought to call tan.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You And I.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Did her, and then I started just calling people, you know,
call one on her and Randy Hauser and Zach Williams,
my Christian artist friend, and Sammy Hagar and Sam Moore
from Sam and Dave I called him big Daddy. He's
kind of like a second daddy to me. I've been
(16:53):
knowing him thirty years.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And then Eddie.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Floyd, the guy that wrote and with Steve Cropper, wrote
and the song knock on Wood, and we had cut
that and Eddie came down to muscle shows and put
his part on it. Devil with mcclinton's on it. He's
one of my singing heroes of all time. And Little
Anthony from Little anth And in the Imperials is on it.
(17:19):
So it just kind of turned into this thing. You know,
I didn't intend for it to be a dw ed album,
but I think we got eleven duets on it, maybe
something like at ten or eleven. And so yeah, I'm
I'm tickled with it. I'm just really tickled with it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You don't want to ask you to you about the
state of country music, as anybody knows where it is now.
It's I think it's as healthy as it's been in
a long time, no doubt, with so many great singers
and songwriters out there. You look at out certain ladies
like Megan Maroney and Landy Wilson are on fire. You know,
you had a female win that Entertainer of the Year
category if the Academy of Country Music Origin, which is
always exciting to see out there too, And just to
(17:59):
kind of the state of country music, if you will,
that State of the Union address. Weel, we say when
it comes to like, you know, presidential stuff and things
like that, but for a State of the Union address
and country music team, you got to be pleased with
the talents out there right now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Seems like they got a lot of cool stuff out there.
Speaker 15 (18:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I talked to to Laney at the Opry the other night,
and boy, she's a pro. She knows exactly what she's doing.
I was really tickled for, you know, to get to
be a member of the Opery. And she texted me
the next day after, you know, she was I said,
I bet you don't even know who I am. I
(18:34):
introduced myself. She said, are you kidding? I know who
you are. So anyway, yeah, man, I'm I'm glad everybody's
doing well, and I'm glad us veteran guys are doing
well too. You know, we're out there working. You know,
it seems like eighties and nineties countries having a resurgence.
(18:58):
I did a festival with Neil McCoy nights ago, a
thing called the Iconic Fest up in Minnesota. And yeah, man,
people are digging, digging the new and old.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's a good time to be a country music fan,
as if the river was. And I grew up, like
I said, with your music and back in that nineties
country to early two thousands, and that was my favorite
you know era right there, and I would agree with
you too. It's very healthy and it's one of those
things right now. It's at the top of its game. Well,
time to play another one off the album again coming
out that first weekend in August. From Memphis to Muscle Shoals.
It's a great t Grand Brown and it's the Dark
End of the Street. Here it is with Tanya Tucker
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and t Grand Brown on w S m AM six fifty,
the home of the Grand Old Loprary Enjoy.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
And the dark in off the Street.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
That's where we all where meet, hiding shine when we dive, belong.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Living in darkness.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
The hide are wrong, you and me.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
At the dark end of the Street, You and me.
Speaker 16 (20:23):
I know the time's gonna take its too. We have
to pay for the love we still it's a sin
and we know it's wrong all but out of keeps
(20:45):
coming on.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Strong steeve load.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
To the dark end of the street.
Speaker 16 (21:01):
They're gonna finds, They're gonna fasten.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
They're gonna find the fool Sunday and you and me
at the darking the street.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And and the daylight rot Rod.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
And by chance we're bull If we should need.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Just walk on by.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Whoa darling?
Speaker 15 (21:48):
Please don't cry, You and me.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
And the dog on the street. Me don't be late.
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Speaker 2 (22:41):
And back you Were t Graham Brown final segment coming
up here from Memphis to Muscle Showles comes out there
first weekend in August. The brand new collaboration with a
lot of great artists on there too, and as team
mentioned about eleven songs the collaborations, it's a great singles
off there too. As the legend keeps putting them out there,
So let's talk about this. When you mentioned having those
phone numbers right there on speed dial, Tan, you tell
what the greatest of all time, no doubt too. And
(23:02):
I know when you called her, she said yes immediately right.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh yeah, man, Tanya's like a sister to me. We
you know, we were on Capitol Records together in the
eighties and we had.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
A big do It hit.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Ninety one maybe something like that, and we just been
great friends, I mean really serious best friend for a
long long time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Man. And yeah, I knew she'd do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
One of the greatest of all time right there. I
loved that one too, The Dark End of the Street
you mentioned Delvert McClinton, and I can't wait to hear
this one when it comes out to of course, pre
order available now. Mustang Sally. I know everybody just knows
that song. If you grew up in any type of
genre of music or any family out there too, and
you've got an appreciation of music, tea Mustang Sally was
a classic.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right, Mustang Sally, all time classic. Yeah, Delbert did a
great job. We went in to the studio here in
Nashville and see Brandon, I wanted to get some of
these guys that are in their eighties on the record,
just to show the world that they could still sing,
you know, because Sam sam Moore's like eighty seven, Eddie
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Floyd eighty five, Little Anthony's eighty four, I think Delbert's
eighty three maybe. So I just wanted to get some
of them on there and let people see that they,
you know, could still carry the mail.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, they still are, no doubt about you. I love it,
and that's just and I love your addition. You mentioned
Zach Williams, Becausezac's doing gospel and off there too was
the classic When a Man Loves a Woman, And I
thought Zach spin on that one, from what I got
to hear, was was done very well.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, Zach did a great job. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We were just we were down at John Rich's Bar
with the oak Ridge Boys and we were they were
doing a remake of the Elvira video one day, and
and I met Zach and he was asking me all
about my gospel album Forever Change, that I had done
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years ago, and he knew all these details from that album,
like what was it like singing with Leon Russell and
what was it? You know, he was asking me all
these questions, and I thought, dang, this kid knows who
I am.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He's been keeping up with me.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So I told him about this album and uh, I said,
I said, would you be interested in singing.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On and he went, heck, yeah I would.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So I sent him a couple of tracks and uh,
he picked When a Man Loves a Woman.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I love it too, great addition there too. Of course,
everything available for pre order now too, across all those
streaming platforms, and you guys have get the full album
that first weekend right there in August and check out
t Graham Brown dot com. All right, you know, I
was there for CMA week and then we were there
back for the Keith Whitley Memorials show, and I got
a chance to finally have my Hot Chicken debate. So
here comes here comes this. I went to hatt he
(25:58):
Be He's back during cr That's when I saw you
there that country radio seminar, so Hattie Bees I thought
was really good and I started with like the Medium Flavor,
which which was pretty not intense, but just good enough
for me. I didn't want to go in any levels
above that. Then I went to Princess Hot Chicken. You know,
this past Keith Whitley show, I'm a Hattie Bee's got
to you. I turned into that pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So you like Hatty Bees?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, I finally wait. I didn't try them all, but
between those two on, hattie Bee's got really well.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Hattie Bees is okay.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Princess is the first one that I ever ate, like
thirty years ago before before hot chicken got to be
a thing. Princess was like the first one. So I'm
I'm Princess is my sentimental favorite. But Hattie Bees is
good too. I've had all.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I got to try the medium next time. Four Princess,
you need to jump on in.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
The deep end of the pool and get some hot.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, next time, I gotta get some hot chicken over
there too.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Other restaurants, where do you like to kind of go
out when you guys do anything downtown or anything outside downtown?
Where do you like to eat?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh, there's a great place in town called Sperry's that's
been here since the sixties. It's a really good steak place.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They got it. They got great food.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And there's a place downtown now called Sinatra. It's a
Frank Sinatra bar. They're really good too, And I got it.
There's a place called a House of Cards. It's a
magic place and they serve dinner and then they have
a magic show. So I'm gonna try to go there
maybe week after next.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I like that one too. I have to try that
when we come back there in October for the Jose
Music Award. That's gonna be exciting too. Well the same time,
all right, what toppings go on a T Grand Brown
pie pizza out there too? What do you like to
eat on a pizza.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
All the way? I like the whole Sopreme.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Give me a Sopreme Supreme pizza. I like that too,
But it's good at tasting pizza. You got a taste
in music out there too. A great album from Memphis
to Muscle Shoals from the great T Grand Brown, a
lot of great collaborations with some of the greatest singers
of all time, comes out there the first weekend in August.
Right there too, for twenty twenty four the presablent Go
get it right now across all those platforms and social
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media out there and check out t Grand Brown dot com.
From Memphis to Muscle Sholes comes out there the first
weekend in August right there, here on the backstage Past,
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You always appreciate the time here on the show. Best
of luck with this new album from Memphis to Muscle Shoals,
and I always love catching up with you here on
the show, my.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Friend, Thanks Brandon, and God bless you, Buddy, and good
luck on everything.
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Hey all, this is Ta Graham Brown and you're listening
to Backstage Past right here on WSM Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Baby, and welcome inside the Backstage Pass another Sunday morning
here on WSM Radio, the home of the Grand Ole Opry.
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(00:32):
please welcome in a legend. We just got to see
him play the Grand Ole Opry. He's done that a
few times. He's the newest member of the Opry too,
as of two thousand and twenty four. And the new
album from Memphis to Muscle Shows comes out on right
there in August there, August second, coming up there too,
our good friend T. Graham Brown to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
T How you doing, brother, I'm doing great man, how
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's good to see you. Like I said, we just
kind of went up there and me and my business
partner at the end of Jim we caught at the
Opry and allway say love leading off their tiers. No
better place to be on any night of the week,
but especially a Friday to a Sunday than the Grand
old Opry too. You know, we talked about this a
country radio seminar. You got the induction of the news
this year. You were the newest member of the Opery,
and I'm sure for you guys, every time you get
(01:14):
up there to headline and sing in front of a
great crowd, it never gets old. And it's just it
was great to see in the audience. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We love going to the Opry, man, Like you know,
like I told you, we've been going out there for
forty years, and to finally be a members just awesome.
And we're gonna do the Opry tonight. As a matter
of fact, they've been caught. It seems like they've been
calling us a whole lot more since the membership thing.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's awesome to be up there on stage, and like
you said, it's never a shortage of a lineup out there.
They always pack it in with a punch when it
comes to like who's opening to who's headlining, And you've got,
like you said, seven to ten acts or something on
their plus comedians and all that good stuff. Never a
dull moment when you sit in the audience, and always
tell people make it a bucket list thing, because if
you've never been, you need to buy a ticket and
put it on your bucket, right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Man, the Opry is a great show, you know, from
beginning to end, and they've what's really cool as they've
put in a whole new PA system and that big
video board video screen behind the stage. And also it's
pretty much a multimedia experience. Yeah, it's a great place
(02:22):
to see a show.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know. Recently, I was talking to some people just
in the industry last week and I got the news
man just tough. I had William Lee Golden on the show.
We did one backstage at the Opry for the Sunday
Morning Country event just a couple of weeks ago there
during CMA week, and man, I'm sure the news hit
you hard, see, just like it hit me the loss
of the late great Joe Bonsel there the Oakridge Boys
for so many years too, and it was a great
(02:44):
tenor singer. I know you've spoken to some different media
outlets about this too at the same time, but just
talk about what Joe meant to you in general in
your career and of course the country music.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, Joe was a great guy man. I guess the
first time I ever worked with the Oaks was probably
nineteen teen eighty seven, maybe something like that, and I've
been out on the road with him. I ain't no
telling how many shows I've done with the Old Ridge
Boys since nineteen eighty seven, and I know them all
(03:14):
very well now. And Joe was just what a great
guy man. He was totally positive all the time and
one of the very best front men in show business period.
And his voice was unique, you know, he didn't sound
like anybody else, and he was just a positive force man.
(03:40):
He lit up a room. He was just one of
those guys you know that you hear about every now
and then. Just nothing. I can't say anything bad about him.
I mean, I don't think I ever saw him in
a bad mood. Just to upbeat, great human being.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, they put out some great gospel music too, And
speaking of gospel, you guys have had a gospel album
out there too as well. Look forward to playing it
on some of our other affiliates out there too.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But you did a great song that night at the Opera.
You perform there at the end of June, and I
loved it. This is back to nineteen ninety eight too,
but when this came out, But Wine into Water talk
about that one. Just every time you take the stage
tea and to light up a crowd and make them
feel something. And that song made me, I said, he
gave me goosebumps that night.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, Whine into Water.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, we wrote that about me, about my struggles
with alcohol and addiction and all that, and miss, I mean,
I was deep into it. But through the grace of
God Almighty and the love of my wife, Sheila Brown,
I'm sober and thank goodness because I'd have probably been
dead if I hadn't straightened up. But you know, Whine
in the Water never was a hit, but it's just
(04:49):
kind of taking on the life of its own over
the years, and it just continues to help people get
straightened out. Man, I mean, I hear I hear about
it every week. Last week a guy wrote me just
a one one line message. He said, Wine into Water
saved my life. And we were in Minnesota a couple
(05:09):
of nights ago when a lady came up to me
and told me that it really helped her son, and I,
you know, I have people tell me that all the
time behind it kept them from killing themselves and just
all kind of stuff like that, And I hear from
people around the world. There was a guy in India
(05:32):
that got in touch with me that saw the video
on YouTube and made a feature film about wine into
water and it's called Grace And he sent me the
trailer man and it's a heavy duty, serious drug deals
going down and a guy shooting himself in the head
(05:52):
and all this heavy stuff, but it comes out redemption
in the end, and it's just doing its thing around
the world. It's really cool. You know, who would have thought.
But I'm just glad to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It, you know, to you had one of the biggest
hits in country music. We always talk about it because
I love it here on the show too, and we
get together, I tell it like it used to be.
And I think those are some words now back in
the day that we always tell ourselves too when growing up,
at least me and everybody as kids at the same
time from our parents. Uh, that's just kind of like
we'd always want to show that off and say no, no, no, no,
just that's not how it used to be. But then
(06:29):
you look at a song like that, how much it
did for your career. When you look back and you
reflect on a song like that, what comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, I wouldn't even be talking to you if it
weren't for that song. I mean, you know, I sang
the demo on that song over a Tree publishing company
one morning. I remember they paid me twenty bucks for it,
and it set on the shelf. And in the meantime
I got a deal on Capitol Records, and when we
(06:58):
were talking about what we should record, and the guy
that produced that demo was working for Capital by then,
and he said, hey, man, what about I tell it
like it used to be. So we went and got
it off the shelf and went in the studio and
cut it, and Capital put it out and it was
a hit man, and I was kind of off to
(07:21):
the races. I had to hurry up and go back
in the studio. I went down to muscle shows and
finished an album for Capitol. I didn't even have an
album cut. That was just we had that song. And
so once it was a started going up to charts
and the Capital said, man, you need to get in
the studio and finish an album so we can have
an album to put out.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So that's that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But yeah, man, I tell like you know, that's the
first song probably anybody that's a fan of mine ever heard,
and it's it's a crowd favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Man. People remember that song. I'm glad of it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But like I said, if it weren't for that song,
I probably wouldn't even be sitting here.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'll tell you what. One of the greatest of all time.
And of course, some new good stuff coming out from
Memphis to Muscle shows. The new album from T. Graham
Brown's coming out that first weekend right there, August second
of twenty and twenty four. And I know you're excited
about this project, but we got to play one right
here on the show for everybody too. It's collaboration you
did with the Great Wind No Nut's called take Me
to the River. Here it is from T. Grahm Brown
on the Backstage Past, exclusively on WSM Radio Am six fifty,
(08:28):
the Home of the Grand Ole Opry.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I don't know why I love you like I do
after all these changes you putting it through you stole
my him and my cigarettes, and I haven't seen.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
How no hell of you yet. I want to know,
won't you tell me and mine and love to say?
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Take me to the river? Why wash me down? Won't
you cleanse my soul? Putting my feet on the ground.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I don't know why he treated me.
Speaker 9 (09:37):
So bad after all the things that we could have had.
Love has a notion that I can't forget, my sweet sixteen.
I will never regret.
Speaker 10 (09:51):
I want to know.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Want to tell me I'm my lowed to stay here.
Chem me to the river behind.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
The wash me dime, o, Lord, put my feet on
the grind.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Hold me, love me, please me, jeez me.
Speaker 11 (10:29):
Till I can't tell cat camps take not my fall,
Take me to the river.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
And wash my dime, putting my feet.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You don't know, Brown, I don't know why I'll love
you like I do after all these changees with you
putting me through the sixteen candles burning on my wall.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Turn me to the figs full of the mop. I
want the Norse watch to tell me, am I in
love to stand?
Speaker 12 (11:19):
Take me to to me ether, wash me down? Won't
you cleanse my soul? Put my feet on the ground,
take me dood river.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Why wash me down?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
So putting my feet feet old Brown, Take.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Me to the river.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
To wash me down?
Speaker 13 (12:01):
Take that to the real.
Speaker 14 (12:04):
Putting my feet Hongo ground, the team to the river,
watch me down.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
The team till the river, pooting my feet. You don't know, broun.
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Speaker 2 (13:38):
And back here with T. Graham Brown on wsm AM
six fifty the home of the Grand Ole Opry too
as well from the Newest grand Ole Opry. Remember every
Sunday morning you catch to show the backstage pass from
five thirty am to six am. Back here with T.
Grand Brown. The new album from Memphis to Muscle Shoals
comes out right there on August the second. But I've
heard a lot of great reviews already from the songs
that are out from this one here from Memphis to
(14:00):
Muscle Shoulders, and I think anytime you look at one
such as we just played for take Me to the
River with the great wine known, and that had to
be just as fun as have one known to come
in and lay down the tracks as it had to
be to sing it live too, right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, one on was great, man, that's a didn't she
do a good job on that?
Speaker 11 (14:17):
She did?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm so proud of her. She's one of the greatest
singers of all time, you know, And to get her
on this record was just sweet, real sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
How did how did that collaboration come together? As far
as you guys talking a little bit behind the scenes
wanting to put this out, I just.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Called her up master. She'd do it, you know, as
simple as that. See, I got every I got everybody's
falling numbers, and we all help each other out. You know,
I knew she'd do it. I didn't have any doubt
about that. But yeah, and she did and did a great.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
You did no doubt too. You know so many great
songs off this record too. Again pre order now of
course that could check out teas the social pages out
there too, you guys as a a pre order link
out there. But I love this sitting on the dock
of the bay. You took one classics of all time
and did this when the Randy Hauser and this one
in the arrangement. I love that the vocals laid down
with this one in the production. Talk about just this
(15:19):
album over all, Tea from Memphis to muscle shows and outside.
You already get some of the best to do 's
because you know a lot of great people, like great
artists you worked with in this album too.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It was fun, man, I went in there just to
do it for the fun of it, just for me.
It's basically what I was doing. Went down to Fame
studios and muscle shows and we cut fourteen old nineteen
sixty soul songs that were either originally cutting Memphis or
muscle shows. And I just was catching up with Dwight
(15:52):
Yoakam one day after I'd gotten back from doing these tracks,
and you know, he was asking me what I've been
up and I told him, and he asked me if
I had cut this song called I'm Your Puppet, and
I said, yeah, man, matter of fact I did. And
he he said, can I sing all that?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Now? I went had to kill you and sing all it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So he went into a studio out in Hollywood and
did his duet part, and then he went back and
sang harmony throughout the whole song. He's a perfectionist. He
did a really good job. And then once once he
did that and I heard it, I thought, man, maybe
I ought to call tan.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You And I.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Did her, and then I started just calling people, you know,
call one on her and Randy Hauser and Zach Williams,
my Christian artist friend, and Sammy Hagar and Sam Moore
from Sam and Dave I called him big Daddy. He's
kind of like a second daddy to me. I've been
(16:53):
knowing him thirty years.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And then Eddie.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Floyd, the guy that wrote and with Steve Cropper, wrote
and the song knock on Wood, and we had cut
that and Eddie came down to muscle shows and put
his part on it. Devil with mcclinton's on it. He's
one of my singing heroes of all time. And Little
Anthony from Little anth And in the Imperials is on it.
(17:19):
So it just kind of turned into this thing. You know,
I didn't intend for it to be a dw ed album,
but I think we got eleven duets on it, maybe
something like at ten or eleven. And so yeah, I'm
I'm tickled with it. I'm just really tickled with it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You don't want to ask you to you about the
state of country music, as anybody knows where it is now.
It's I think it's as healthy as it's been in
a long time, no doubt, with so many great singers
and songwriters out there. You look at out certain ladies
like Megan Maroney and Landy Wilson are on fire. You know,
you had a female win that Entertainer of the Year
category if the Academy of Country Music Origin, which is
always exciting to see out there too, And just to
(17:59):
kind of the state of country music, if you will,
that State of the Union address. Weel, we say when
it comes to like, you know, presidential stuff and things
like that, but for a State of the Union address
and country music team, you got to be pleased with
the talents out there right now.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Seems like they got a lot of cool stuff out there.
Speaker 15 (18:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I talked to to Laney at the Opry the other night,
and boy, she's a pro. She knows exactly what she's doing.
I was really tickled for, you know, to get to
be a member of the Opery. And she texted me
the next day after, you know, she was I said,
I bet you don't even know who I am. I
(18:34):
introduced myself. She said, are you kidding? I know who
you are. So anyway, yeah, man, I'm I'm glad everybody's
doing well, and I'm glad us veteran guys are doing
well too. You know, we're out there working. You know,
it seems like eighties and nineties countries having a resurgence.
(18:58):
I did a festival with Neil McCoy nights ago, a
thing called the Iconic Fest up in Minnesota. And yeah, man,
people are digging, digging the new and old.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's a good time to be a country music fan,
as if the river was. And I grew up, like
I said, with your music and back in that nineties
country to early two thousands, and that was my favorite
you know era right there, and I would agree with
you too. It's very healthy and it's one of those
things right now. It's at the top of its game. Well,
time to play another one off the album again coming
out that first weekend in August. From Memphis to Muscle Shoals.
It's a great t Grand Brown and it's the Dark
End of the Street. Here it is with Tanya Tucker
(19:35):
and t Grand Brown on w S m AM six fifty,
the home of the Grand Old Loprary Enjoy.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
And the dark in off the Street.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
That's where we all where meet, hiding shine when we dive, belong.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Living in darkness.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
The hide are wrong, you and me.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
At the dark end of the Street, You and me.
Speaker 16 (20:23):
I know the time's gonna take its too. We have
to pay for the love we still it's a sin
and we know it's wrong all but out of keeps
(20:45):
coming on.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Strong steeve load.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
To the dark end of the street.
Speaker 16 (21:01):
They're gonna finds, They're gonna fasten.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
They're gonna find the fool Sunday and you and me
at the darking the street.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And and the daylight rot Rod.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
And by chance we're bull If we should need.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Just walk on by.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Whoa darling?
Speaker 15 (21:48):
Please don't cry, You and me.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
And the dog on the street. Me don't be late.
Speaker 17 (22:14):
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Speaker 2 (22:41):
And back you Were t Graham Brown final segment coming
up here from Memphis to Muscle Showles comes out there
first weekend in August. The brand new collaboration with a
lot of great artists on there too, and as team
mentioned about eleven songs the collaborations, it's a great singles
off there too. As the legend keeps putting them out there,
So let's talk about this. When you mentioned having those
phone numbers right there on speed dial, Tan, you tell
what the greatest of all time, no doubt too. And
(23:02):
I know when you called her, she said yes immediately right.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh yeah, man, Tanya's like a sister to me. We
you know, we were on Capitol Records together in the
eighties and we had.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
A big do It hit.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Ninety one maybe something like that, and we just been
great friends, I mean really serious best friend for a
long long time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Man. And yeah, I knew she'd do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
One of the greatest of all time right there. I
loved that one too, The Dark End of the Street
you mentioned Delvert McClinton, and I can't wait to hear
this one when it comes out to of course, pre
order available now. Mustang Sally. I know everybody just knows
that song. If you grew up in any type of
genre of music or any family out there too, and
you've got an appreciation of music, tea Mustang Sally was
a classic.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right, Mustang Sally, all time classic. Yeah, Delbert did a
great job. We went in to the studio here in
Nashville and see Brandon, I wanted to get some of
these guys that are in their eighties on the record,
just to show the world that they could still sing,
you know, because Sam sam Moore's like eighty seven, Eddie
(24:14):
Floyd eighty five, Little Anthony's eighty four, I think Delbert's
eighty three maybe. So I just wanted to get some
of them on there and let people see that they,
you know, could still carry the mail.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, they still are, no doubt about you. I love it,
and that's just and I love your addition. You mentioned
Zach Williams, Becausezac's doing gospel and off there too was
the classic When a Man Loves a Woman, And I
thought Zach spin on that one, from what I got
to hear, was was done very well.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, Zach did a great job. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We were just we were down at John Rich's Bar
with the oak Ridge Boys and we were they were
doing a remake of the Elvira video one day, and
and I met Zach and he was asking me all
about my gospel album Forever Change, that I had done
(25:07):
years ago, and he knew all these details from that album,
like what was it like singing with Leon Russell and
what was it? You know, he was asking me all
these questions, and I thought, dang, this kid knows who
I am.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He's been keeping up with me.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So I told him about this album and uh, I said,
I said, would you be interested in singing.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On and he went, heck, yeah I would.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So I sent him a couple of tracks and uh,
he picked When a Man Loves a Woman.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I love it too, great addition there too. Of course,
everything available for pre order now too, across all those
streaming platforms, and you guys have get the full album
that first weekend right there in August and check out
t Graham Brown dot com. All right, you know, I
was there for CMA week and then we were there
back for the Keith Whitley Memorials show, and I got
a chance to finally have my Hot Chicken debate. So
here comes here comes this. I went to hatt he
(25:58):
Be He's back during cr That's when I saw you
there that country radio seminar, so Hattie Bees I thought
was really good and I started with like the Medium Flavor,
which which was pretty not intense, but just good enough
for me. I didn't want to go in any levels
above that. Then I went to Princess Hot Chicken. You know,
this past Keith Whitley show, I'm a Hattie Bee's got
to you. I turned into that pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So you like Hatty Bees?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, I finally wait. I didn't try them all, but
between those two on, hattie Bee's got really well.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Hattie Bees is okay.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Princess is the first one that I ever ate, like
thirty years ago before before hot chicken got to be
a thing. Princess was like the first one. So I'm
I'm Princess is my sentimental favorite. But Hattie Bees is
good too. I've had all.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I got to try the medium next time. Four Princess,
you need to jump on in.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
The deep end of the pool and get some hot.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, next time, I gotta get some hot chicken over
there too.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Other restaurants, where do you like to kind of go
out when you guys do anything downtown or anything outside downtown?
Where do you like to eat?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh, there's a great place in town called Sperry's that's
been here since the sixties. It's a really good steak place.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They got it. They got great food.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And there's a place downtown now called Sinatra. It's a
Frank Sinatra bar. They're really good too, And I got it.
There's a place called a House of Cards. It's a
magic place and they serve dinner and then they have
a magic show. So I'm gonna try to go there
maybe week after next.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I like that one too. I have to try that
when we come back there in October for the Jose
Music Award. That's gonna be exciting too. Well the same time,
all right, what toppings go on a T Grand Brown
pie pizza out there too? What do you like to
eat on a pizza.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
All the way? I like the whole Sopreme.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Give me a Sopreme Supreme pizza. I like that too,
But it's good at tasting pizza. You got a taste
in music out there too. A great album from Memphis
to Muscle Shoals from the great T Grand Brown, a
lot of great collaborations with some of the greatest singers
of all time, comes out there the first weekend in August.
Right there too, for twenty twenty four the presablent Go
get it right now across all those platforms and social
(28:26):
media out there and check out t Grand Brown dot com.
From Memphis to Muscle Sholes comes out there the first
weekend in August right there, here on the backstage Past,
powered by the Sports Guys Podcast dot com and t
You always appreciate the time here on the show. Best
of luck with this new album from Memphis to Muscle Shoals,
and I always love catching up with you here on
the show, my.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Friend, Thanks Brandon, and God bless you, Buddy, and good
luck on everything.
Speaker 17 (28:48):
Sports and music equals a whole lot of fun. It's
those sports guys. Check them out on Those Sports Guys
podcast dot com.
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