Episode 210 - Main Vein on the Main Vein

Australia's story isn't just one of pioneers and platypuses—it's also a story of a nation's darkest deeds. From the quiet suburbs to the vast, unforgiving wilderness, we're uncovering the true crimes that shocked a continent and redefined a country's idea of safety.

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Research links below!


Bentahm Science - "Catherine & David Birnie"
ABC News - "Sharon Fulton's husband blamed notorious serial killers David and Catherine Birnie for wife's 1986 disappearance, inquest told"
Serial Killer Calendar - "David and Catherine Birnie: The Bonnie and Clyde of Australia"
Medium -- "Twisted Couples: David and Catherine Birnie"
Alchetron - "David and Catherine Birnie"

Julian Knight - The Hoddle Street Massacre - "Chronology of Julian Knight's Life"
ABC - "Hoddle Street killer won't be forgotten"
The Age - "Confrontation with a killer"
Aussie Criminals - "Julian Knight - The Hoddle Street Massacre"
The Sydney Morning Herald - "Angry victims reject Knight's apology"
Victorian Reports - "R v Knight [1989] VicRp 62; [1989] VR 705 (10 November 1988)"

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Why they discovered upon their arrivals unspeakable.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm not doing they did.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's the living.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You gotta worry about.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Something.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
If I couldn't keep them there with me whole, at
least I felt that I could keep their skeletons. Hello
and welcome to the Bad Taste Crime Podcast. I'm Rachel,
I'm VICKI. Hi. Hello, Well is everybody welcome to the show? Welcome,
come in, you're blowed, Welcome back to the showful show

(00:55):
for you today. How are you doing, Rachel, I'm doing
pretty feel like I got some eye boogies that I'm
It's just like allergy. Literally, it's like I've been like
sniffling and snuffling. The corn's been doing things. Yeah, in
the Midwest, if you guys didn't know, it's hard. It's
real hard to like not live next to a cornfield

(01:15):
or like within close proximity of cornfield. They creep up
on you. They that they do. They'll get you that
they do. So it's that time where we just have
corn all in our nose and well for the next
like six months, yeah, forever, you know what. I feel
like mine doesn't go away though I've sound pretty good
since I've been living in town instead of like in
a in the country. That's fair, you know what, you

(01:36):
know what I mean? Yeah, let's leave. Well, this is
your first time listening. A special hello to you. We
are going to head over to the newsroom right food
watching today We had fifty this week. Our news comes

(02:04):
from Schoogle County, which is in Pennsylvania, where a gentleman
was so. Okay, so he's accused of a couple of things,
mostly related to burglary. Okay, that is a crime, hurle.
The police got a phone call from let's see, the

(02:29):
high school principal in Pine Grove, Okay, about seeing a
guy walking around the high school campus. They got the
surveillance video. He was identified as twenty eight year old
Austin Hall. He was seen entering trailers that were used
by the high school marching band and then leaving at

(02:55):
like very early hours of the morning, wearing a band uniform.
He also took food, tools, medical supplies, and a backpack
that was being stored there, like they were just getting
ready to leave on a trip, so they had like
stuff that was being stored there before the trip, and
he took some stuff from that. What Dick then he
walked around the campus and was looking into windows and

(03:16):
eventually leaves. Oh. A couple of months later, they get
another phone call from the same school about another break in,
saying that Hall had allegedly broken into the concession stand
at the football soccer stadium. Huh. The prior day, he
is seen entering the school's property, parked outside a shed,

(03:40):
walking into the front garage of the stadium, unlocking a
window the concession stand. He comes back, He leaves the
area for a little bit, comes backwarding what police are
saying is a woman's dress. Oh, and then they say
he changed clothes a bunch of times while this is happening,
But he loves a quick chain, goes through the window,

(04:02):
stays inside for inside for like forty five minutes. Attempted
to cover the internal security cameras with duct tape. Okay,
but it's always this funny thing when people are trying
to cover cameras because the first thing they get if
you're not wearing a mask is your face, right, Yeah,
you got to cover your face first. Yeah. So they
were ill, They're like, so we were able to get

(04:23):
clear pictures of him easily and be able to positively
identify him again. In this case, he took food, drinks,
medical supplies, electrical supplies and air pump and towels, and
then he returns to the school property uses a hose
to sort of wash off this blue It was like
a blue four by four anyway, So weird. Yeah, he's

(04:46):
just skulking around in a weirdo. Yeah. So Hall has
said two officers that he does have a drug problem
and sometimes he blacks out, but he does say that
he remembers these incidents. Oh, and he took some of
the the things that he stole and put them into
a wooded area known locally as the Ghost Bridge. And

(05:07):
he also said that he took the backpack. He was
using it to store personal items like his wallet and teeth. Oh,
I keep my teeth in my mouth. Well, and I
don't know if this means teeth you lost or if
they're like dentures. If he has a drug problem, I mean,
they could be. It could be the other one.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
So anyway, He's been charged with two felony counts of
burglary and two counts of criminal trespass and a misdemeanor
of theft and receiving stolen property and a misdemeanor and
being fucking weird you're doing, sir, dude. I get the
I understand the urge to steal a marching band uniform, though,
because why the fuck not. I do love that he

(05:46):
had a lot of dramatic costume changes. That's fabulous. Yeah yeah,
the dress for no reason is so funny. He's just
coming out in a dress and heels. I don't know
what other outfits he had on because they were like, yeah,
he changed clothes like several times, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
If it was.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
God and he's the coachman discuss. Yeah, yeah, all right,
we're gonna move on to Netflix and kill this week
we are talking about Okay. So I don't know if
you've noticed or realized this, but Netflix has put out
a series of documentaries. There's one sort of set called Untold, right,
that generally follows sport related things. Right. There's a train

(06:28):
Wreck series now also that covers wide variety. There's like
train Wreck, poop Cruise. I'm sure you've heard about. Yeah,
there's train Wreck. There's one coming out about PI Moms.
There was one called The Liver King. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like you're interesting, very interesting
stories about just like train wrecks of the situation. They've

(06:51):
been coming out with these. I kind of love it
because they're also not depending on if it's a series
or not. If it's not, they're typically not very long,
which is nice. Yeah. Nice. And so we today are
gonna be talking about untold the Fall of Farv. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
because oh boy, as you know, we are not necessarily

(07:15):
into football. You know, earlier we literally had a conversation
where I told her I could not name five basketball
players if you held a gun to my head, and
I'd put you wrong because I could. I could, but
they were all like the major one I held the
metaphorical gun. It was like, yes you can. I couldn't
name ten. How about that? I mean, I couldn't name
five more. There's no way. You definitely could do five though,

(07:37):
And you did five. Yeah, but you you hinted with one,
no one, not for the first three, yeah, but for
the last two. Yeah yeah, but the other one. It
wasn't a big hit anyway. We're not the most sporty people,
sport minded girls, so Brett Farv. I mean, living in Illinois,
you know, the rivalry between the Bears and the Packers,
which is nothing compared to the Packers versus Vikings. Truth,

(08:00):
that's hard, Yeah, but I have heard of bretfar for
fucking ever. Right, So this definitely looks at the beginning
of his career how he kind of got into football,
like what he became this real cult like figure we're
obsessed with. Like he was, yeah, like he was like
the godfather of football for a while, just in he

(08:25):
he was so famous and so beloved by a state
because he played for the Packers by a state who
loves football, like they find a lot of value. 's
so central. Yes, yeah, yeah, So there is also covering
this documentary. If you don't know, he was allegedly involved

(08:46):
with some really sketchy shit. Do you know about this?
I don't okay him, to be honest. Yeah. So he
played in college. He kind of got drafted, not as
high up as you would think. He like wasn't playing
in the beginning. He goes to the Packers and starts
doing really really well. Then it comes out that a

(09:10):
woman comes forward saying that he had allegedly been sending
her illicit text messages trying to get together with her
unsolicited dick pics. Brefarvre at this point is married. Let's
see that it's wild because this woman and his wife
look very fucking similar and he's like so very obviously

(09:32):
and like, since then the text messages and stuff have
been produced, but at the time that this is happening,
it was still people were like, this woman is just
coming forward to be famous, to be known for something,
blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah, so that happens,

(09:52):
and then there was this whole thing over there's and
I mean that that was enough, really yeah really, but yeah,
so there's this whole thing that happens with misuse of
welfare funds and Mississippi where he essentially received funds that

(10:26):
were diverted from Mississippi's temporary Assistant for needy needy families
like fund welfare, and that money was partially funneled into
building a new stadium for the college that his daughter
plays volleyball at, and then part of it was diverted
into it was like an investment in this like a

(10:50):
supplement company or that I'm sure he has his name on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So don't you make enough money, sir, you gotta take
it away from welfare you, dick. Yeah, and he was
getting paid out for like speaking engagements that he never did,
and that what was happening. He sounds like he sucks. Yeah.

(11:16):
He He has always claimed he was receiving these funds,
he did not know that that specific money was supposed
to be going to. Why didn't you know that? Don't
you have an accountant? Right? But he has said he
has maintained he didn't know that money was misappropriated by

(11:37):
the people that he was receiving it from. He has
no claims to know where that money is coming from
or have any responsibility to know where that money is
coming from. And as far as I'm aware, has not
been charged in relation to any of it, of course,
but this is all things that could happen. He possibly

(11:58):
could face a civil lawsuit at some point, but it
doesn't seem like he's getting any like criminal charges for
any of it. So I just want to make that
super clear. It was a biotech company that he oh yeah,
here we go. Yeah, And there's like text messages that
have come up that sort of make it clear that

(12:18):
he might have known what was going on. Soccer very sketchy,
but there's a lot of stuff about Brett Farv that
I didn't know, and I'm like, you're kind of a
I didn't know any of that.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, it does seem like he is standing
as a defendant in a welfare funds lawsuit like Civilly.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
It doesn't seem like it's he's done a deposition a
few years ago, but it doesn't seem like it's settled.
From what I can tell from here. It's a very
interesting little look into the CD side of this, like
well known. Yeah, And sports are always an interesting thing
because I disagree a lot of time. Well, like the
people involved. I a lot of times they are I

(13:06):
don't know, who you wouldn't expect. Sometimes they have in
high school. Sometimes they don't. They catch a lucky break
or something, and you get all these people and then
give them a ship ton of money to play professionally,
and they're all kids as they get drafted and they
don't know like they are you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Sometimes I feel like unless your parents took great care
and like the systems you were in made sure that

(13:27):
you had the education that you needed around the economy
and like how to handle money and like things to
do with it and here. You have a I don't
have any much money and power I feel like could
corrupt and has lots of people and popularity like the
image Oh my goshes and you're on the wheaties box.

(13:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, anyway, sheesh interesting shit. Uh, this is
that part of the show where we say content may
not be appropriate for all listeners. It's not today we
are talking about oh oh yeah, no, a lot of death. Yeah,
mine had a lot of death. It has some pretty
graphic sexual assault.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So if that is not a thing for you, that's okay,
I see you later. Yeah, okay, what are we talking
about today, Rachel? So we are talking I thought i'd
cast a wide net and do Australian based crimes. All right,
all right, yeah it's a good pick. Yeah. What's funny

(14:32):
is I was about to say I don't know what
made me think of it, but I do, and it's
super dumb. My kid loves to look at videos of
animals and so he was jumping around. I'm like, you're
jumping like a kangaroo, and he looked at me. I'm like,
do you not know what a kangaroo? Let's watch seven
hundred videos of kangaroos, and we started looking at kangaroos
and wombats and koalas and all that stuff. You are

(14:52):
all the animals from the outback. That's what you're saying exactly. Okay,
I grew up. Did you watch Steve Irwin as a kid. Yes,
and no, he was not specifically one of the I
liked the more kiddy type animal shows, so things like
Zabooba Foo, like there was a I don't know, like
Goligal Island, this kind of animal theme that was like

(15:15):
young young, you know what I mean. I wasn't necessarily
towards kids. Yeah. Yes, and I'm over in my living
room watching a crocodile bite his fingers off. I'm like, yeah,
oh my god, so funny. Definitely watched more cartoons than
animal shows. I watched an I was always on the
animal planet and you know how I am such a baby.
I'd be like crying because the mama leopard. My god,

(15:38):
you would try This is why you're traumatized as a
child just from watching animal planets the worst. So that
was the step downhill. Yeah, Australian crimes I feel like
for as much as like I feel like the tourism
side of Australia makes it seem like such like a
beautiful paradise, Like it's like beautiful and beachy, and then

(15:59):
there's like so much to do and so much nightlife.
But then when you get into like the true crime aspect,
it is like they have some of like the worst,
like scariest, like serial killers, like they're unhint. And they
also are similar to a lot of places and that
there is organized crime like masters and sort of this

(16:21):
political manipulation and you know what I mean, Like those
kinds of things are at place some areas are very remote,
so like that brings a different set of problems with
you know, people uh getting into arguments or whatever. Yeah,
like yeah, it's a there's a lot of shit that's
happened over in Australia. Also, let's be real it started

(16:42):
as a prison colony.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm just gonna put that out there. Yeah, I mean,
anywhere where there's colonization, there's gonna be there's gonna be problems. Yeah.
But yeah, I just think the crimes from there are
really interesting and this I think is one of it's
one of the more well known ones I would think. Okay,
and it's infamous, like to this day, super infamous. But

(17:06):
for seventeen year old Katie Moyre, at first, it was
just kind of another day. Okay, So Katie Moore is
just being seventeen, be an Australian. She's at I believe, yeah,
you know, I'm just doing things. I believe she was
at a You never introduced anyone, as you know, Rachel

(17:28):
just being American? Why not, he's gonna say, I'm just
gonna point that out. Hey we should start that. Oh
my god. So she was at a bus stop kind
of like trying to find her way home and a
car pulls up, and I feel like it's that classic

(17:48):
thing of like a young girl, if a car pulls
up with a guy inside of it, you're gonna be like, no,
thank you, like your your hackles are going to be
up a little bit. When what year was this? This
let me double chest sorry if I'm no, no, no, no, no,
You're totally not. This was like like nineteen eighty six. Okay,
makes a big difference. Also, it absolutely does, because the

(18:10):
attitude towards like hitchhiking and getting rises and stuff was
a lot even in Australia, a lot different though, and
there's this is a pretty I've seen a lot of
people focusing on this girl in particular, like her story
that I'm about to tell you sort of. I've seen
people like victim blame her because she did get in
the car, and it's like, dude, it was different. It

(18:31):
was a mindset. It was Yeah, people don't do things
unless they feel secure, and she obviously felt secure, right, Like,
leave her the fuck alone anyway, Sorry not to, but
it does make a difference because it is in the
attitude aff Yeah, okay, get off this stage, but I can't.
I live there. Stage is in my mind prison of

(18:55):
my own making. But there wasn't just a man in
the car. There was also a way. I feel like
that's a very classic technique of like no, no, this
is a safe car because you feel more safe with
a woman than you would with a man. Yeah, and
there's one right here, right here, and she's so cool
and they're they're this cool couple. They introduced themselves as

(19:15):
Catherine and David Bernie, like, hey, what's up. There might
have been again, the different things come from both her
and the Bernie's. They said like, hey, we're gonna party,
We're gonna take you back to our place, like maybe
smoke a little Margealon, you know, sounds like a good
night Yeah, one of those things. But either way, she

(19:38):
she just wanted to ride home, so she got in
the car. Pretty much as soon as she got in
the car, they held a knife to her throat and
told her she wasn't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay. As soon as they got her back to their flat,
they forced her to telephone her mother and tell her like, Hey,
I know I was supposed to come home, but actually,
like I'm not gonna be there tonight. They just told
her make up something. So Kate, who is very clever.

(20:12):
You're gonna love Kate, okay, very clever. Kate came up
with this ruse where she was like, oh, no problem,
I'll just tell her I'm a big partier, you know,
so I'll just tell her that I'm drunk and I'm
staying over. Kate did not drink. Kate was not a
partier at all, so she hoped that her mother would realize. Yeah.
She was like, you know, just like I always do

(20:35):
glog glog glog, and her Mom's like, actually yeah. But
her mom kind of in the moment, kind of was like, okay, girl,
you know whatever, So she was like, what could I do? Yeah,
she turned around after the phone call. This is eerie
because she was really scared, obviously, as her mom did
not for whatever say girl, I'm sending the police. Like

(20:57):
what else could she do? You know? She just was
like Okay, I hope you safe, love you by. And
she turned to them and said are you just going
are you gonna assault me? Or are you gonna kill me?
And David said, We'll only rape you if you're good.
Oh my god, yeah, oh uh she was there's uh

(21:17):
oh yeah. I watched several like like documentaries and stuff
about this, and I've I've followed this case kind of
for a while, and there's some that go into it.
They are the grossest, creepiest people they put on because
like they were very aggressive and abusive to her, but

(21:37):
they also seem to like want to hang out with her.
They put on a movie and weird mate. There's a
scene in the movie I don't remember. It was like
a mob movie where there's dancing and they had her
strip to her underwear and forced her to dance and
kept being like, oh, you're not doing it good enough,
like because she's terrified. She's crying, right, and she's scared,

(22:00):
trying to get her to date. Right, there's this whole performative. Obviously,
they raped her several times, assaulted her, and they ended
up handcuffing her to the bed and handcuffing her to David,
to the guy in particular. Oh okay, so she has

(22:21):
to like spend the night.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
The whole time she's there, though, she's noting little details
around the house. She's looking at the layout of the
house because she's allowed, like I think Catherine takes her
to the bathroom. She doesn't go anywhere alone, and she's
sort of noting like, Okay, this is what this layout is, like,
this is this and that. At one point, she goes
to the fridge and she's looking if there are any

(22:43):
numbers on the fridge. So she's this super clever girl.
The following day, David went to work just like la
la la, what a normal day for me. And they
had been talking about because she was like, Okay, you know,
I spent the night. Now you're gonna let me go,
and they were like, no, we're gonna keep partying. He's
going to go to work, and they were talking about Okay, listen,

(23:05):
I don't know if this is the thing. But they
were like, we're gonna actually get some cocaine, and they
were talking about injecting it into David's penis. I don't
know what that would do. Is that a thing? I know,
like that might be if you know, if it's a
thing writ in I don't do enough cocaine. I don't
do cocaine. I have never, But is that a way

(23:27):
that I wonder if that's I don't know if it
was like to like keep him erect longer or I
don't know, because like it was numb. Yeah, but would
like numb your people. That's what I was thinking. Why
would you want that? Are you googling? Hey, Siri, what
happens you injected cocaine into your dick? She's googling. I

(23:51):
am actually safe safe search. It's always off because the
things that I need to know are not always like
the best dinner table conversation. Yeah, would be like. No,
I love talking about stuff like this on the podcast

(24:11):
because I'm always forced to remember that both my adoptive
and biological parents listen to this. Hi guys, Well no,
it's just it's there's a lot of articles that are
talking about pow in thecrosis. Okay, as a result name
of pow lacrosis. That's my punk band. Intravenous in local

(24:32):
intravenous injection of cocaine. Yeah, I don't think it would
be good for you, yeah intro. Oh it's because there's
a vein that goes through there. Oh oh, so maybe
it's just like a like a good place to like
get it into your blood stream yours vein of the
Penish cocaine alley. So apparently because there's a main vein

(24:57):
on your main vein. Oh yeah, shifted into my main vein.
But it can also cause your penis to fall off,
you know, from pena and the crosis. In this life,
you have to men take notes. I would say, I
don't advise injecting cocaine into your penis. This is a
bad taste. Crying podcet, I realized I do not have

(25:17):
a penis, and I am not qualified to talk on one.
But I'm just gonna it's hard to suggest, no hard, hard,
suggest hard, Okay, continue, Okay, all right, I got a
penis cocaine thing because I'm like, okay, dick coke. But yeah,
they were talking about that, and so she was like,

(25:38):
oh my god, they're gonna keep torturing me. They're gonna
keep raping, Like I have to get out of here. Yeah,
so Catherine, because again they took great pains to never
leave her alone. But Catherine made the mistake of going
to the door essentially to get the cocaine. I guess
they she called, I need the cocaine for my dick,

(26:03):
and Moyre ran to the door because she was let
out of her handcuffs and then she was like okay,
ran to the window, broke the lock, and dove out
of the window.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
She was pretty high up and unfortunately hit her head
on the concrete. Yeah. So, and she was like half naked,
had like barely anything. I think she might have had
like a men's shirt on, but like naked, fell head first.
So she's super dazed. But she's like, they're gonna come
after me. So she starts running. This poor fucking girl.
She runs to neighbor's house. She's banging on all the doors.

(26:38):
She's terrified that they're following her. Yeah, nobody's answering their door.
Oh my god. It's just like it's early in the morning.
Banging on all these doors, banging in all these windows.
She's she gets confused, gets turned around because it's kind
of like a not really like a block of apartments,
but kind of similar where all of these houses are
kind of like close together. She gets confus used and

(27:00):
gets turned around and ends up jumping back into their backyard. Oh,
David's dog fucking attacks her. Oh my god. So this
poor girl. So she got all torn up. Finally she
was able to run to a nearby was it a
mechanic it was a vacuum cleaner shop, and was like,

(27:20):
help me, help me call the police. And they did
call the police. Take care of her. Yeah, good. Now, Unfortunately,
all of these police were like dickhead guys, and she
was a very beautiful young girl, and they were like,
so you were just partying and you don't want your
mom to know. Like they were victim blaming her. They
were telling her she even though she was like no, no, like,

(27:43):
this is clearly what happened. This is the kind of
car that they drove. These were their names, these are
the names on the refrigerator. This is what happened. They're like, oh,
so you're just making shit up. Luckily for her there
was a constable twenty two year old Constable Laura Haddock
handcock and cock, cocaine in your cock. She believed her.

(28:08):
She was like the only one to believe her. She
was like, I don't think that she's lying about this.
She seems genuinely scared. And she was able to even
though her because I think she had just started. She
had just started on the force. She was pretty young. Yeah,
all of her superiors were like, just don't even talk
to her about it. She was like, I'm gonna sit
down with her. So she sat down with her and
was able to get the story and was able to
write down the details, which included their address and phone number.

(28:32):
Oh my god. Wow. It's like because when she had
to call her mother, they had the phone number. It
was either printed on the phone or they had it
written like next to it, and she memorized it because
she's just such a clever little girl. So it's like,
she has all this information. You're not even gonna look right, assholes,
And she had read so I guess when they they

(28:54):
didn't say that their last name was Bernie. They didn't
tell her. But when she had gone to the bathroom,
Catherine had just stood outside or like with the door cracked,
and she was able to like look at bottles of medicine.
So she was like, one of them's name is Bernie
David Bernie, Yeah, that's his name. It was probably a
bottle full of cocaine for his stick.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
The movie they made her dance to was Rocky. Okay,
that's what it was. So she was like Rocky was
on TV. So this is when I was at the house. Uh,
and she had she had like hidden things in the house.
I remember hearing that she had plucked hair from her
head and was like pushing it under the couch. She

(29:39):
had made like a little girl smart, so smart smart,
I probably wouldn't have done shit. Yeah, just stood still
and died. Yeah, Like she is so brave. You're seventeen
for even knowing that they would look for things like that.
She even made like a little drawing somehow and had
concealed it somewhere in the house, and she was like,
you're gonna go and find it, And they found it,

(30:00):
and they found like the tape of Rocky and everything. Yeah,
they're like, oh shit, So they were immediately arrested. They
went to arrested the Bernies after searching, and they were like, yep,
this is it. But during their interviews they were giving
like kind of conflicting information but like it's like okay, yay,
Like they tortured and rape this girl and kidnapped her

(30:21):
and now they're in custody. That's great, But the story
was not Jesus. Okay. So it started where they're they're
talking to the police and they're, oh no, they're they're
starting the story off with like, no, this was all consensual.
She wanted all of this. She came over to our
house to party and put cocaine in my wiener. And

(30:46):
but finally, after pressure, which a lot of that was
on from that female constable who was like I fucking
knew you were damned or Doug, they were able to
finally force David to confess not only to the rape
and kidnap, but to several murders. Oh my god. Okay,

(31:10):
so she had evaded not only a rapist but a
pair of serial killers. Thinking about how they lured her
into the car, it also does not seem like it
was their first time and doing that, Okay, it makes sense.
That makes that yeah, wow, first time allegedly because they
I will say, like, I'll say all of the victims

(31:32):
that like they know for sure they are suspected of
many many other crimes, many other murders. The first would
be twenty two year old Mary Nielsen. She was a
psychology major, and so David his like day job, how

(31:52):
he can afford to put all this cocaine on his stick.
I'm not over that, and I'm gonna be talking about
it the whole time. Oh God, cocaine on his dick,
in and the dick. So he worked at like a
mechanic and she hadn't met him there. She probably just
took her car in and he was like, oh, yeah,
you take your car, and you need some new tires

(32:13):
for your car. But it's I mean, it's gonna be
pretty expensive from the shop. She's like, fuck, I don't
want to buy new tires. He's like, I get lucky
for you. I have cheap tires at my flat. I'm
a mechanic, so I have all kinds of like car
shit at my house and cocaine for my dick. Why
don't you come back to my house and I'll sell
you the tires, seemed like he and this was at
his workplace, so like it seemed like it was on

(32:34):
the up and up, so she was like sure, went
to the flat on Moorhouse Street, where she was immediately assaulted,
chained up, beaten, a very similar pattern to what had
happened to Kate. And while all of this was happening

(32:54):
from David, it was always said that Catherine would would watch,
She like to watch and comment, yeah, do that do
that gross? She's gross. Uh, they're both disgusting. They're both
horrible and disgusting.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Then they took her out of the apartment to a
place called Glenny Eagle, which seems like kind of like
a remote area. She was assaulted again and then they
had like a nylon cord and they strangled her.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
David also decided to stab her because quote he read
somewhere that that would speed up her decomposition. Okay, just
like stabbing her. I don't know what the logic is
behind that. I mean, what's the logic of putting cocaine
in a dick? Our sourcers are still out. We're not sure.
We're not sure. Catherine, although she's mislikes to watch, helped

(33:49):
dig the grave and helped put the girl in the grave.
The grave okay, so she did participate for sure. For sure.
Two weeks later, Xanna Candy, who sadly was only fifteen
years old. She was a high school student. She was
abducted while hitchhiking. Again, this was a different time. Different time,

(34:12):
it was way more socially acceptable to just hike where
you need to go. Australia is a big ass place
and it has some remote ass places, so sometimes you
just need to get where you're going. All right, it's fine,
But this time it wasn't fine. But it's not her fault.
Very similar again to Kate. As soon as she entered
the car, Candy was held at knife point. This time

(34:35):
they forced her to send letters to her family instead
of like calling, so she had to write to her
mother and everything else, and then she was subjected to
the same beating, the rape, that being chained up, and
then they tried to strangle her but they weren't successful.

(34:58):
So what they did was they sleeping pills, which I
kind of wonder if some of the sleeping pills were
some of the bottles that Kate had seen his prescription
information up. Because they had mad sleeping pills all over
the house, they were able to force like a shit
ton of sleeping pills down her throat, and then when

(35:20):
she was asleep, they tried to strangle her again. However,
David handed the cord to Catherine and said, prove how
much you love me, and she strangled him. They went
back to Glenny Eagle that same area and buried her
nearby Susannah. Yeah. Not long after, on first November, thirty

(35:45):
one year old Noline Patterson. This poor thing, this is
so heartbreaking. She ran out of gas. So she was
on her way home from her job. She worked at
a golf club. She was a bar manager. She was
just driving home out of gas. She's like, well, I
guess I'll have to hitch hike homb you know how
am I gonna? Like you do?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Like you do?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Was picked up by the Bernies. They originally had planned
to murder her immediately, but ended up keeping her for
three days, and it is said that David grew attached
to her and like emotionally and started to like almost
kind of fall in love with her, obviously not really,

(36:28):
but like he believed love was right right, and Catherine,
instead of being like, wow, maybe her victims are humans
and we should let them go, was jealous of this
poor girl who was like disgusted by these nasty people.
She was jealous of her and told David eventually was
like you have to kill her or I'm killing her myself.

(36:51):
I mean, they clearly clearly have a very skewed view
of their relationship and of these people that they are singing,
kidnapping and bringing home. Like it's very sucked up crazy
to Yeah, like you're jealous of her. She doesn't want
to be there, Yeah, she wants to be back at
her fucking golf club. Yeah. So they did the same deal.

(37:12):
David gave her the sleeping pills, forced them down her throat,
and then while she slept, strangled her with the cord,
took her back to that same area of Glenn Eagle,
but buried her a little further away from the others.
And it said that fucking Catherine would take handfuls of
sand throw it at her face while she's already dead,

(37:33):
like ha ha, yeah, like bitch, final victim Denise Brown
before Kate. Anyway, fifth November, so right after this was
on first November, yeah, and they kept her for three days.
So then on fifth November, so they're escalating super super
quick they abducted Denise Brown, who was twenty one, from
a bus stop. Okay, pretty pretty standard. Seems very similar

(37:56):
to Kate adupted, abducted at night point. They took her
back to the flat and assaulted her. Then right after
like the following afternoon, they took her to a pine
plantation in nearby Wanneru, which seems like pretty remote. In

(38:17):
the car, she was assaulted and then David instead of
strangling her, he stabbed her in the neck, which is awful.
Like during the assault, he stabbed her and then was like, okay,
you're definitely dead, put her in the grave, and then
he produced an axe and struck her twice in the

(38:38):
head and then reburied her. Oh my gosh. So like
I don't know if this is like he keeps talking
about like I want to speed up the decomposition. I
don't know if this was that or if he got
oh or if he's just escalating because like now the
chord's gone. Now they're just doing right blood force trauma.
So that was on fifth November, and then our survivor,

(39:01):
Kate was abducted on the ninth of November. So this
is all happening, like definitely speeding up a lot. Yeah,
so a couple. So they were arrested after Kate save
the day, they were arrested and sent a trial. David
ended up pleading guilty to four counts of murder and

(39:24):
then four counts like each of like rape and abduction.
There's this really creepy moment in court where they were like,
so why did you confess? Like why did you confess?
And he looked over to the victims families and went, well,
it's the least I could do. I don't like any
of this, no at all. Catherine really never said shit.

(39:49):
But she was also sentenced to the same stuff that
he was, and they were both sentenced separately to four
terms of life imprisonment.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Good.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Now there's an Australian like rule at the time, because
like I don't know if at the time they didn't
have like life with no parole. It was like they
were required to serve twenty years before being eligible picture
for parole. So that's like, no matter what you're doing,
twenty that's like a minimum sentence. Like like if they

(40:22):
say you have a you know, a fifty fifty years
incarceration with a minimum of twenty right, you have to
serve that before you'll be considered for parole. That makes sense.
We have that here. I think some states have it,
some same, some states don't. I think. Actually you had
mentioned in their last story that it was like somebody
had gotten no minimum life sent right, right, and that

(40:45):
was Australian as well. Yeah, so funny. Yeah, they have
like a very interesting way of doing legal things. Yes,
I don't always understand it, but it's like so fascinating. Yeah,
interesting court. The pair while they were incarcerated, which was
obviously separately, they exchanged more than twenty six hundred letters. Wow,

(41:05):
they stayed in I'm surprised that they allowed them to
see to contact me too. They weren't allowed any other
forms of contact. Were they talk on the phone. They
were married though, were they or no, like actually married? Yeah?
I think so okay. On October seventh, two thousand and five,
David was found dead in his cell. He had allegedly

(41:27):
hanged himself. There's some stuff about like, well he was
supposed to he was really depressed, and he was supposed
to get all these antidepressants but like it was having
trouble getting them, and there was this inquest coming up
because he was allegedly sexually assaulting other prisoners. So they
were like, well, you're we got to figure that out.

(41:48):
So like all of this stuff was kind of like
coming to a head.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Geez.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah. Although he was described as a model prisoner, which
I'm like, hello, how was he a model prisoner?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
And then so there was a funeral, but Catherine was
not allowed to attend. Okay, okay, they were like, you
can't come. She is having a great time at bandy
Up Women's prison. She is the prison librarian. Uh, and appeared.
Remember I think in the last case I was talking

(42:18):
about they do like theatrical productions in jail, So she
was in nonsense, Okay, nice, I mean somebody's got to
do it. I guess somebody, I guess. But really, like
what is going on? There have been many appeals from
the public because again, like she has this like point

(42:39):
where she could technically get paroled, but there have been
many many like appeals for the public say like do
not let this yeah, oh, let this bitch out.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
She then became so like the government was like no,
you're right, this bitch sucks. So she is the third
Australian woman after Catherine Knight, who I think you've talked
about before and Patricia Buyers to have her papers marked
never to be released. Yeah, yep, so that was overturned,
which is dumb. But she's still and she still bids

(43:12):
for parole, but they keep just like telling her now right.
Our heroine of the story, Kate Moore, began a campaign
to end that law to make parole laws for violent
crimes in Australia stricter because they have a law now
where it's like every three years you're kind of like

(43:33):
up for review. She's like, for violent criminals, it shouldn't
be like that for crimes like that, because she's obviously like,
don't is she advocating for like a longer time before
she wants like a review of their It says she
specifically wanted to end the laws that make that like

(43:54):
three year parole gap. So she wants to just be like, no,
they have to apply for parole to be eligible. Oh
I see, so not like an automatic review process because
the gag is although her lawyers, like I think her
lawyers will kind of like automatically be like we're making parole.
But she has never applied for parole herself. Okay, so

(44:16):
she's like why let her out? She doesn't want to
be out and I don't want her out. Leave a
bitch in there. Yeah, so she sits there to this
day being a fucking librarian. Yeah. Yeah, huh that is
uh that story of crazy story David Catherine Burney who

(44:36):
suck awful. Yeah. Terrible people, Yeah, absolutely terrible people, bad
representation of Australia.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
So I decided this week to look at this very
insane story. And I'll also say it is quite There's
a lot to it, really a lot to it, and
I tried to condense it down without leaving out some
really important things because things start happening very quickly, and

(45:19):
so yes, it's there's a lot. But yeah, I want
to talk about Strappin, put that cocaine and wrap on.
Julia Knight and the Hoddle Street massacre. Yes. So Knight
was born in March nineteen sixty eight. He was adopted
by a military family when he was just ten days old, okay,

(45:45):
and thanks to the military ties in the family, obviously
they moved around a lot around Australia quite a bit,
and then they did spend some time abroad okay, But
they eventually settled in lavertin Victoria. Nineteen seventy five, when
Night was twelve, his parents got divorced. Oh dear, he
spent lots of destabilizing events in the Sky's life. He

(46:09):
spent a lot of time during his youth involved with
the Australian Army Cadets, okay, and it was like really
clear that this military upbringing like was rubbing off on him,
you know what I'm saying. H So, during his adolescence
and into his teenage years, it was reported that Knight
had a fascination with military history. Not super surprising, like

(46:33):
I said, given his family background, but specifically World War
Two and Nazi Germany. At I feel like every serial
killer it's like they love Nazis, Yeah, damn it. At
age seventeen, Knight joined the Army Reserve with hopes of
serving in the military. He even attended the Royal Military College, Okay,

(46:54):
and when he went he did show very strong skill
ill in the weapons exercises, but his academics were garbage,
like really good with weapons, really bad with books, slops.
He's set smart, He's something like that. Yeah. So this

(47:15):
all of this is happening topped off by this incident
in which Knight gets drunk and attempts to stab or
did stab one of his superior officer. You're not supposed
to do that, Yeah, and they're like, we think it's
time for you to leave by so he was asked
to leave. Upon returning home, he found everything had changed
basically Night's girl stabilizing events right, all at the same time,

(47:40):
like to Night's girlfriend, who I saw described as this
like longtime girlfriend had decided she was finished with their
relationship and uh to add insult to injury. While he
was away training, Knight's mother had decided to turn his
bedroom into like a second living room or like a
sitting room. Yeah, while he was gone. So he came

(48:02):
home and he like doesn't have a bedroom, No, so
he was sort of forced to stay in this like
temporary bedroom until he could get a job, sort of
get things back together again and get his own place.
So yes, like you said, tons of destabilizing events, yeah,
one right after another week. On August ninth, nineteen eighty seven,

(48:27):
Knight attended a belated birthday party for his mom at
his grandmother's house. He was like, I got you a gift.
Even though you took all my stuff, he was still
a good kid kind of kind of so far. So
he was at this party between one and four pm okay.
While he was there, had a couple of beers before leaving,

(48:49):
and went to his younger sister's home. He stayed there
for a little bit before they talk a lot about
him just like driving aimlessly, just like driving around trying
to decide what to do. Around four point thirty night,
visited an old girlfriend to drop off a magazine, presumably
the girlfriend that he had just broken up or had
been broken up with. Dropped off this magazine and then

(49:14):
he started driving around aimlessly again. Okay, this time, after
a few minutes of driving, the gearbox in his car
jammed and he got stuck in second gear. Oh shit,
So he manages to get this car home, He changes clothes,
has another beer, and then decides to walk to a

(49:37):
local pub to keep this party going, yes, and hoping
to like run into some of his friends, like you
know whatever. So he goes to this pub it's called
the Royal Hotel, where, like I said, he hoped to
find some friends. Unfortunately, none of these people were there,
and instead he drank alone until about just before nine pm.

(50:00):
Never a good move is at this point. According to
like later interviews after this incident, that Night reports having
a vision of soldiers being ambushed and that he has
this feeling that this vision is like a call to arms.
Oh dear, you are not joan of arc, which causes

(50:20):
him to rush home to his mom's house, where he's staying.
By this time, both his sister and mom were home.
They were like watching a TV movie. Yeah, So he
talks with the sister for a second. She goes back
to watching the movie with their mom, and Night goes
upstairs and starts pulling out a number of guns that

(50:42):
he legally owned and were stored underneath his bed, including
a one seventy seven caliber Daisy BB air rifle, a
one seventy seven caliber Chinese air rifle, a one seventy
seven caliber Crossman Model seventy six air rifle, a twenty
two caliber Rugo Ruger Model ten two semi automatic rifle,

(51:09):
a twelve gage Mossburg pump action shotgun, and a Chinese
made seven sixty two millimeter caliber M fourteen semi automatic
military rifle. He is strapped, he takes the Ruger, the shotgun,
and the M fourteen downstairs, loads all three in the

(51:31):
front room and then fills his pockets with about one
hundred rounds. He's just like stuffing all of his pockets
with rounds. And he grabs a round specifically for the
M fourteen that he called the suicide round that he
put into his front pocket on his shirt. Oh my god,

(51:52):
a black combat knife. He also grabbed that and like
puts it down the back of his jeans and leaves
the house guns maybe miss in tow, and starts running
down a few roads before he gets to Hoddle Street,
just likes armed to the tee right, running around drunk

(52:13):
off as he arrives night. Arrives in the area around
nine thirty pm and almost immediately begins firing on passing
cars with the ruger, and he it was literally like
cars from both directions anybody that came within. They talk
a lot about the ambush zone, like the quote unquote
ambush zone, so like where he was standing, and he's

(52:34):
sort of walking as he's shooting, not like fast, but
a little bit, so he is kind of inching up
the road. Anybody who comes into a siteline is getting
shot out. So married couple Con and Rita Vitkos were
the first to be hit, luckily receiving minor wounds. They
continue driving down the road a bit to like it

(52:54):
was like a mobile station, before they stopped to sort
of like assess the damage out what was happening. Just
behind them were two other cars, one belonging to Michael
Anthony and Trevor Smeely, and one driven by Gregory Elliott.
Although Elliott just missed being shot in the head. Both
cars did sustain damage, but none of the three of

(53:16):
these gentlemen were injured. Good Night fired on the next
car containing Alan Jury, Monica Vittelli, and Danielle Mina, hitting
Jury and Vitelli. They also received minor wounds and went
to the same gas station that was like up the road.
Led They got out of there to sort of again
like deal with yeah this getting shot and like getting yeah, yeah,

(53:41):
oh my god, how scary. Yeah. The next car contained
Raywynn Crichton, Burned mkhel and Diane Arnold, all of which
received no wounds. Okay. Next was the car of sand Wang,
receiving minor wounds. Diane Fitzpatrick was in the following car.

(54:03):
She was actually the first to receive serious injuries to
her back. No Knight then fired on Michael Pierce, Jacqueline Langhosh,
Isaac Lohman, Reginald Dunton, and Dana se Balki, who all
escaped injury. Luckily. By this point, he has now run

(54:24):
out of AMMO for the ruger, and so he just
drops the gun. He's like again like inching up the road,
switches to the shotgun. Wow. The shotgun, which was much
much louder than the ruger, starts becoming noticeable by local residents. Yeah,
so the big shotgun blast. All of a sudden, the

(54:44):
residents are like, what the fuck is going on? And
they start calling police. They're like, finally like, okay, something
weird is going on. They call police. Knight continues to
fire on these passing by cars, including Sharon Mander, who
escaped safe without actually realizing she had been hit. Oh wow,
which is kind of amazing day Venessa, excuse me, Vesna

(55:08):
Markowska and Zorin Trajetski, Georgina pat Pawanu, all of which
received minor wounds, and Jane Morris, Kate Edwards and Cecil Corliss,
who again I think sounded like had maybe minor woons. Luckily,
down south down the street there just happened to be

(55:28):
a police divisional van driven by Constable Glenn Nichols and
Belinda Boorscher, and one of the cars that had driven
past Night Like heading that direction flagged down the police officers. Okay,
they're like, hey, guys, put down your donuts and come
over here. Do you see what I'm saying about a

(55:49):
lot happening? Though, this is just cars driving past in
both directions, right, So that's so scary. They flagged on
the officers. They tell them about this erratic shooter. The
Constable's immediate respond They flip on their lights. They radio
to headquarters to tell them what's happening now. Of course,
as soon as they get close enough, Night fired on
the officers as well, before going back to firing on

(56:11):
passing cars. Next tour cars containing Matthew Morrow, Edward mcshortall,
Trevor Robinson, and Keith wing Shinshing. Mcshortall did get some
minor wounds, but wing Shing made the mistake of stopping
very near Night and received serious throat and jaw wounds,

(56:33):
like right through the face. This gun, the shotgun is
now running out of bullets, right, okay, so he continues
to just like he will reload fire in the cars.
Whenever the gun runs out of bullets drops it doesn't
need it anymore. The next was Kevin Skinner, Tracy Skinner,
and their son Adam. Unfortunately, Tracy was hit in the

(56:56):
face and died instantly. Adam was sitting on her lap.
He received minor wounds from like shrapnel glass. Oh my gosh.
Local residents attempted to intervene at this point, like this
was the first fatality, like instant fatality, So Peter Kermey
and John Muscat tried to approach Night from the side
to like stop him.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Muskat was shot in the head and chest, dying from
his injuries, and Kermy was seriously wounded. Wow. Steve Wright,
who had been working at a nearby swimming pool, ran
over to attempt to render first aid, but was shot
and seriously wounded with the final rounds from the shotgun. Wow.
Dropping the shotgun, Night switched to the M fourteen rifle

(57:40):
using a prone position. Vesna Markovska, who had been fired
upon earlier. She was like when she had been fired upon.
They pulled over and she was basically taking shelter behind
her car. She had gotten out and was physically on
the other side of the car. Yeah, she took this
opportunity to ryan and escaped the firing zone. Unfortunately, she

(58:04):
was almost instantly spotted by Knight, who shot her three times,
killing Markovska. All of this to this point, it has
been about ten minutes. Right, Oh my gosh, but that
this is all happened, that's crazy. Police requested helicopter backup
and additional units began arriving on scene. There was an
attempt to fire on Night from the west side of

(58:26):
the street, but the shots missed, and Night had just
continued shooting at people. As soon as the shot missed,
Night Robert Mitchell, who was one of the prior victims,
runs up the street to try to render aid to Markovska,
who at this point had died. She was just lying
in the street when Mitchell reached her body and stopped.

(58:48):
Knight immediately shot and hit him in the right side
of the head, killing him instantly. Papianu left her car
and attempted to as well to give aid to Markoska
and Mitchell, but again, as soon as she got at
the bodies, Night shot and hit her in the left side,
causing a fatal wound. More cars driving through this area,
Andrew Hack who received serious injuries, and Duson Vlasnik, who

(59:12):
was hit on the left side bled to death in
his car. Ambulances began. Finally, ambulances are now arriving on
s I say finally, like it's been it's been time minutes,
but I'm sure it felt like so much longer. Ambulances
started arriving on the scene. Uh. They actually used the
gas station where the two previous cars had stopped to

(59:33):
like set up a central command basically smart a place
for victims to go to or whatever, because it's just
up the road a little bit. So there's still more
cars driving through this area. Michael Smith received minor wounds
and Jacqueline Megan's received serious wounds. Stephen Mill Mihailitus had

(59:56):
he managed to get through with no injuries, kind of.
Stanton drove through on a motorcycle and was hit in
the left leg, which sort of caused him to wipe
out right. Night then shot him twice more, which killed Santon.
Another car drove through containing Demetrios Kalivas Renata called a blella,
Danny called a blella, and Danny de Luca. Uh slightly

(01:00:20):
wounding Renata and seriously wounding Danny Wow called a blella.
This was followed by Wayne Tims and Jane Timbury on
a motorcycle and a car containing Alexandria Stemmatopolis, Stamatapolis, Steven Stanmeatapolis,
Irene Fountas, Vickie Fountas, and Panagiatti Fountas, although it doesn't

(01:00:44):
appear that any of them sustained any injuries. Good okay,
Oh yeah, oh all these cars driving by? Yes? Yeah. Crazy.
By this time, about forty police officers had arrived on
scene and surrounded Night. He took the opportunity to withdraw

(01:01:05):
from the area and attempt to evade police. So now
he's on the run. Shit. Knight climbed onto the platform
of a nearby rail station and started immediately running down
the tracks. As he continued running, he spotted a police car,
which he immediately began firing on, although neither of the
officers in those cars were hit. Okay. Knight then decided

(01:01:27):
to make a pit stop in some nearby trees to
smoke a cigarette. He's like, there's because now there's this
helicopter searching for him. He's like, oh, this seems like
nice and covered. Yeah, I needed a little break smokes
a cigarette. Meanwhile, police had begun their search again by air,
using the super powerful spotlights, and even called in the
Victoria Police's Special Operations Group, which is basically like the

(01:01:51):
tactical squad. Right upon finishing his cigarette, Knight continued running northwest,
coming across some more police, which he promptly shot at
and slightly wounded one. Although he was trying to avoid
the helicopter spotlight. Knight did exit cover and fire at
the aircraft, striking one of the fuel tanks and forcing

(01:02:12):
it to make an emergency landing. But this guy's like
playing GTA well at this point. Like I said, he
was very proficient at the weaponsight courses when he was
He's just military school, right, Wow, so this is his jam.
Oh my god, he's been training for this. It's crazy.

(01:02:33):
Night continued his escape, now heading towards the home of
his ex girlfriend. Oh no. At this point, they're about
forty minutes into the massacre, Knight is spotted by two
police officers who begin pursuing him in their car. He
unleashed the remaining ten rounds towards the police car before

(01:02:56):
ducking behind a low brick wall and At this point,
he is like looking for that suicide his little extra bullet. Yes,
and he realized that in the midst of everything it
had fallen out of his pocket. So he's like, well,
I guess this is the end for me, tosses the
EMPTM fourteen like out to where the cops can see it,

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and then slowly stands up with his hands up. But
the police, obviously still very on edge, right, shoot at him, yeah,
and he ducks back down and says, don't shoot, I'm
coming out again, stands up with his hands up really slowly.
They at that point arrest him without any conflict, any
additional conflict, I should say, and he's taken into custody

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where he's interrogated. Wow. Yes, that is crazy. Oh my god,
what a night. Just like so much damage that happened
in less than an hour, basically right crazy. Night was
fully cooperative with police, including participating in both nighttime and

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daytime reenaction reenactments that were filmed. That's weird, Night, Well,
they needed them for court. I get it. Oh, it's
like so weird. Yes, yeah. Night was charged with seven
counts of murder and forty six counts of attempted murder.
During the trial, his defense team claimed that he had

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a personality disorder with hysterical features. Now the part of
the opinion on this case, it will be linked to
in the show notes. But I wanted to read a
little excerpt of the case before the Supreme Court in
Victoria because I just think it gives interesting insight into
the defense side of things. Okay, So it reads, in

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part quote, as doctor sim pointed out in his report,
there is no doubt that when you left dun Truon,
which is the military college. When you left dun Trun,
you were in a highly stressed and emotional fragile, emotionally
fragile state, and were this reaction was to build up
even further in the setting of your attempts to come

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to terms with your life and the total collapse and
disintegration of your life's ambitions. In the weeks that followed,
a number of events contributed to accentuate the state described
by doctor sim. When you returned home, your room had
been converted into a sitting room, your clothes were in boxes,
and you were sleeping on a folding bed. You felt rejected. Okay.

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End quote. It goes on to say, quote, as a
result of the combination of all these factors. You felt
rejected and lonely. On the very night of the shooting,
you drank alone at a hotel near your home, and
you tried to engage strangers in conversation. You tried to
speak to the barmaid who ignored you, and you felt rebuffed.
End quote. Okay, so he talks about there's also a

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section there that talks about an attempt to contact his
birth mom in like South Africa, and she was like,
I don't want anything to do with you. And all
of these things compounding into a parent having visions because
that's ultimately what set him off at the bar, right,
supposed vision. Right that led to just like a they

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talk about it. Yeah, like it's pretty clear that something snapped, right,
But but then the the decision is like, but we're
not here to judge your mental state, Like you're fucking guilty. Yeah,
crazy Yeah. So Night pled guilty to all of the
charges and was sentenced to seven concurrent life terms with

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a non parole period of twenty seven years. WHOA. He
is currently incarcerated in the protection section of the Max
security pert Fio prison. Cool, that's a good place for him.
Wild that dude sucks. I know, I'm sad. Oh yes, well,

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do something else, do something else, like not like not
getting your dash of fucking guns from under your back.
Stop there, weirdo freak. Anyway, that's a good one. Oh
my god, Melo heart was beaten. If you cy I
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