Baseline Awards & 2025-26 NBA Honors Predictions ft. Jabari Davis

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We are back Cali Warrenshaw and our special guest Jabari
Davis joining us here on the baseline. Time for us
to get into our awards predictions. And we're gonna start
off with the Rookie of the Year award. So amongst
the consensus, right Jabbari, myself, my man Shaw, the collective

(06:46):
decided to go with Cooper flag as being the Rookie
of the Year. And I'm gonna start with you Shaw.
I know that you are not You're hedging your bets
on it, but I do believe that in your way,
it's realistic that everyone sees Cooper's flag basically hoisting that award.
But I believe you had a quote unquote inside Ace

(07:07):
up your sleeve and believing someone else might take that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I'm going to be a little bit disingenuous here,
to be honest with you. I wasn't trying to swim upstream,
so to speak, but I thought there was a really
good opportunity for Ace. Now I find out my brother's
got like tendonitis in both knees or something like that
going into the season, and it's not looking super amazing.
And then you know, I've watched a little bit more
of Cooper's game and it seems a little bit like
Finos here. This is pretty undeniable. Uh So I've come

(07:35):
around to the consensus here that Cooper, this is Cooper
Flag's award to lose. Really truly. However, if there was
truly as in the whole, it could be Ace Bailey
knees holding up depended so to speed. But yeah, Cooper
Flag is a man in these streets. So I'm good
with going with what the Budjor already had here.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
The way you made it sound like I should be
holding up a prosthetic leg.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, he's on twenty one anything not.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Talking about.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean, you know, to that point, you know,
I understood, you know, because even when we did the
you know, the other preview that we you know that
will come out eventually some here, so sometime soon, when
you mentioned Nace Bailey, I understood because you know, oftentimes
Rookie of the year, it doesn't matter whether like they you're,
their team is in the spotlight. It doesn't matter whether
they want it, you know, like they win a ton
of games. If if that guy is seen as a

(08:29):
transcendent talent and he's you know, able to you know,
put up you know, a lot of numbers, they're going
to be into consideration. But the reality is this Cooper
Flag is not only the best player of the like
of these guys, at least right now, in my humble opinion,
he's also going to be playing meaningful basketball with all
of those same opportunities. Given the fact that Kyrie's out,
you know, to start the year, Given the fact that

(08:49):
Jason Kid has already you know, put the ball in
his hand and said, like, you know, let's see what
the young guy's got. There's already a connection there with
a d You know, I'll be honest with you. I
think you I think you framed it properly. This is
his this is his award to lose.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And I think the one thing too that I think
stands out to me is what his defensive metrics are
going to look like. I do believe that there is
a space that that Cooper flag is going to remind
us a lot like you know, those flex for guys
that exhibit a lot more strength and a lot more grit.

(09:22):
And I think we can get away from the perception
that that has to be Anthony Davis because Anthony Davis
is already a defensive Player of the Year, you know
what I'm saying, recipient and things of that nature. I
believe that that Cooper flag brings a level of grit
and a little bit of an old school mentality, and
I think he's going to get his opportunity to display that.
And that's just on the surface, and I think that

(09:44):
will lend itself well. I think he's the type of
person that wants to take on, you know, the bigger players,
like he probably would want to take on Jokic and
I like that, and I like that Moxie. I think
that that will suit him well. So even when he
has bad nights, he still has an opportunity for him
to statistically put up numbers and do things that will
continue to put him in the conversation of being deserved

(10:05):
as the rookie of the year. So to everybody's point,
I think, you know this is really his his his
award to lose. Okay, let's go ahead and transition now
to the mp Most Improved Player Award. We again a
very seek you know, the consensus is there. I believe

(10:27):
we all believe in some way, shape or form, this
is an opportunity for Amen Thompson. This is his coming
out party. The spotlight will definitely be on the Houston
Rockets this year with the expectations of what they can do,
minus some of the off court stuff that has happened
losing Fred van Fleet. But this I think even raises
more eyebrows to the opportunities for Amen Thompson to basically

(10:48):
get this award. I'm gonna start with you, Jubari, because
I believe you believe that this is A'men Thompson's award
to probably lose as well too.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
But I definitely think given.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
This is the status and the situation, the dependency that
you know, that's gonna be like that's placed on the
shoulders of a'm and Thompson to really kind of take
that next level, take that next step. I think this
is as good an opportunities you're gonna see to help
him solidify that award.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
You know, the reality is, it's kind of like how
I just described the Rookie of the Year situation. This
is an opportunity. This isn't you know this this is
a situation where you know, even when Fred van Vliet,
you know, and and you know, shout out to him
and hope, you know, wishing him a speedy recovery. But
even when he was in the lineup, I thought, hey,
they may still have some playmaking concerns they make you know,
they really are gonna need a'm and Thompson to step up.
They're really gonna need, you know, other guys to do,

(11:38):
you know, to do more on the uh from that
perspective that they that they weren't receiving, especially down the
stretch last year and in the postseason. So now that
you know, now that Fred van Leet, you know Van
Vliet's out. It's like, okay, no, I'm in what do
you have I personally, you know, like like I was,
you know, incredibly impressed by you know, by his game
you know, last year and what he showed. I know

(12:00):
that you can't and your Warren that you'll get uh.
I know that you you may have something to say
about this. I know you can't base it off summer
your summer tape, you know, but the summer take looks good.
Like everything that we've seen from him, everything that we've
heard about him in camp and obviously what we you know,
what we've been able to see, you like, it looks great.
So I you know, I I do think this guy's

(12:21):
the limit. I do think that, you know, he has
a great opportunity to get this. It would actually surprised
me if he's if he's not in that conversation.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
That yeah, I mean, I think with when it comes
to man, it's one of those we rarely have concessus.
Concessus and is such a divisive kind of NBA ethos
in landscape. But there's not anybody who does not like
a men Thompson or the Thompson Twins In general, I
think they're already.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Except for Jose Alvarado, I think I think he may have.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Maybe everybody has. But I think when it comes to
covering the league and understanding what opportunities are there, and
I think even you couple that with Fred Vanvleet's injury
read Shepherd, maybe may or may not be truly ready
to kind of step into some playmaking and additional minis there.
A Men seems like the guy. I hope he doesn't
wear down, obviously, but this is really truly his year.

(13:09):
While I'd love to pick, you know, somebody else's splash
year and I have my eye on, you know, my
Testocellas in Chicago, he truly is a second year guy.
So then that kind of goes against my own rule,
like second year guy, Well, of course he's supposed to improve, right,
but how much will he improve from year one to
year two? But this is what a men's third year,
So this is around that time where you're starting to
really see that, and you couple that with the opportunity

(13:30):
that's there, it seems to make a lot of sense
for a Men to be the most improved player this year.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
The only thing that I was going to say to
your point, Shaw is that the timing is just I
think is going to be is bad because I think
a lot of people are going to be impressed by
what you'll probably see from Mussellis. The issue is is
that the need for what Thompson can potentially be for
Udoka and what the Houston Rockets are gonna need, especially

(13:56):
given what happened to them last year getting bounced by
the Golden State Warriors. This to me is an opportunity
for Thompson to really cement himself to being what everyone
believes that the Thompson twins were, you know, when they
were coming out of the draft, like the hot the focus,
the spotlight has allowed that now to illuminate even more.

(14:16):
But I do think that people should keep eyes on
Bussella's and what he can potentially do with the Chicago
Bulls because give give listen, the Chicago Bulls executive management
did it without knowing that they were doing it. Maybe
this might actually be their opportunity for them to see
this could be the future, right, this could be a
building block that they want to build with. He's already spoken,

(14:39):
you know what I'm saying from media day since preseason.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
He wants to be that guy.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
We haven't heard that from most of these other guys
that have been kind of coming through the doors. And
if he does take that step, it could help him,
but it's not going to help him become m YP
given what we're talking about with the Thompson. Yeah, all right,
so let's transition now to the deep pois. You know
what I'm saying, the Defensive Player of the Year Award.

(15:05):
I believe we think that it's time. It's time that
we give it to the VIC. You know what I'm saying,
victim woman Yama. It's his opportunity. This is the one
where I believe we say, all right, it's really his
to lose because the numbers that he's been putting up
over the first two years, it's kind of hard not
to imagine him not being that guy. But it's really

(15:28):
hard not to imagine at this point because we know
that he's gonna put even better.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Numbers up that this is this is his award.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I'm gonna let you chime in on this one, Shawl, Like,
it's hard to imagine given the freakish, you know, numbers
that he's been putting up already in the first first
two years and doing that while having the health issues
that he exhibited, meaning that he probably could have done
it last year and it'll do it again, you know,
this year even more. But maybe that might be a

(15:57):
good sign for the San Antonio Spurs. It's like we're
letting him percolate.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I think this is going to be one of
the situations where we may get tired of him, you know,
two three years down the line. Like when you talk
about awards to lose, it really is and should be his.
I think Amend's going to be very close, you know
when that you know will put plus the opportunity. But
what the leap we expect san Antonia to take just
truly the freakish numbers that Wenby's is going to put
up just by virtue of just being truly just as

(16:24):
long as he is just he doesn't really need to
do a whole lot, and he's a smart player on
top of it, and he contests any challenges and he
has the motor again as long as he can hit
the games played a limit because this is what precluded
him from winning the war. I think last year he
was kind of the odds on favorite. He should be
winning this war for years to come, or at least
be in the top two or three at the very
very least, you know, for every season for the next

(16:45):
however many years. He wants to be in this in
this space, Jabio, kick it to you, any client, CLIs
because this is the one we all agreed, like, listen,
open and shut whenby get out of here, I'm going.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
To attempt to be hyperbolic, but I actually mean this
victor one been Yama might one day go down as
the most destructive defensive force in the NBA. Like and
so when I say this, I am not discrediting Will,
I'm not discrediting Nate Thurman. I'm not discrediting any of
the incredible defenders that we've ever seen. They were all gay,
were all great, and they still hold the they still

(17:17):
hold the place, you know that they've always held. What
I'm saying is exactly this, you know, to the point
that you just made. We've never seen one this freakish
lead you know, long and tall and athletic. We've never
seen one with that size and that motor and that
skill set and those freakish you know, uh, you know,

(17:38):
agility advantages that he has. We haven't seen this exact package,
plus the fact that he also seems to be that
much of a competitor. All I'm saying is it's way
too early to make those proclamations. But I can see
this that that's his trajectory if his body permits.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think the other thing as well too, And and
you know, maybe you know you know me sometimes I
speak outlandishly, But the other thing as well too, is
he is now he is now setting another category of
how we look at the way the big men should
be playing right. And I think until we get another victor,

(18:17):
womban Yama like that he has to contend with. He
is a problem for the Jokicis who like to stretch
the floor, like to go behind the three right guys
just can't afford to act, you know, you know, just
only can of camp out like they're gonna have to
actually come back down. And if womban Yama is the
kind of person that you've seen, he has balance, he

(18:38):
has agility, he has length, and he utilizes these things well.
He's not somebody that becomes a detriment as a big
because he doesn't really get in foul trouble. So that
means a lot of the shots altering changes that are
happening are not at the expense of him sitting on
the court because he's suffering from four or five fouls.
His coaches don't have to make critical decisions about bringing

(19:00):
him out because he makes free throws. So he as
long as he continues that path, he again is altering
the way that they're gonna have to figure out how
to get around him, get past him, whether it's finding
somebody else quicker, you know, designing some kind of offensive
system that gives better shots. But to your point, he's
literally trending in that kind of direction that's gonna force

(19:22):
us to say, we're gonna need to clone him in
order to in order for teams to actually say that
they have a chance if he's covering the floor the
way that he's covering. Like there was a time where
it would have been cool seeing Steph Curry probably going
one on one against Vic wimban Yama and then you saying, oh,
young Steph probably can get that shot off. That kind

(19:44):
of women Yama, I think blocks Steph's shot almost every
single time. Like Steph is gonna have to get into
the you know what I'm saying, the Harry Potter wizardry
school of figuring out how to get around a guy
that can move and be able to stay with even
guards the way that women.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, the illess floaters in the world are gonna be
hard to get around. And I think you're pointing about
him not being in fault troubles because he knows how
to utilize the size that he has. He can just
contest by literally putting his arms up right. I'd be
interested to know, like what his standing reaches in air?
Right if he jumps arms completely extended, is he like
fifteen feet up into the air, seventeen feet with like,

(20:21):
I don't know, And that's frightening to think about.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You've seen some.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Of those pictures where he's contesting the three pointers where
it looks like he's twenty feet in the year where
it's like, so, yeah, good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Good luck for I got something that I got something
to throw the both of you guys.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Because I'm really interested in this, I think a lot
of people are trying. I think are gonna want to
see maybe the matchups, say of Anthony Davis versus Victor
Woman Yama almost nice because of Anthony Davis's defensive proudness,
right Like, I don't want to, you know, you know,
overlook the fact that Anthony Davis is among one of
the great you know, defenders of his generation. But I'm

(20:58):
really interested to say, what about Cooper Flag?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Right Like?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
There's an opportunity there with a guy like Cooper Flag.
The physicality of Cooper Flag. Could he be a deterrent
to a guy like Victor Women Yama, Like, could they
challenge each other? Because listen, a lot of people have
had high praises for the for the way that Cooper
Flag likes to play. He likes to play physical for
his lengths. I just wonder can he actually be a
deterrent to a guy like Victor Women.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You say a deterrent?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't. I don't know if I'm following.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
I mean you talking about like a rival or like
do you see a possible do you see like a
possible rivalry there from not just you know, matchups perspective,
but also with you know, the the premise as far
as some guys like for from an offensive perspective like
Victor Woman Yama like, he likes the fact that he.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Can shoot and likes to shoot over people get away
from being down there in the pain, you know what
I mean. And I like to see whether or not
a guy wants to be physical with Victor w Uyama
get up on a guy like Victor woman Yama, and
vice versa. So do you think that there's a possibility
there for that.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I don't know if Cooper is ready for all that
smoke just yet, you know. But I mean, if you're
looking maybe a couple of years on the line, you know,
you you some wouldn't be somebody who you're going to
have to scheme for. So I think if you're just
like you know, I'm going to try to just use
brute strength to kind of get past him, even though
he's slider of frame. So this week he's been obviously
working on his fitness, as they say, and might starting

(22:26):
to be developed. That are we that? Why are we strength?
But also again, you just can't overcome the like the
sheer length he has, so he doesn't need to be
overly physical with you. Even if you're trying to be
physical with him, you then might be drawing setting yourself
up for offensive fouls. Like I don't know if Cooper
or anybody else right now, I think, you know, the
chet Homegren thing was trying to be a thing and

(22:48):
maybe still his chat very much as you know, kind
of like that that's not nos face if you will,
that emoji when he sees Wemby and that's somebody I
love to see because you know, like, what is it
like the fighting drafts or whatever they call him getting
man bowl. So I'm with it from there, but I
don't know if Cooper's on that same level, even just
by a result of the height, so to speak. Jabory,
what's your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mean, I look at it like this, and initially,
you know, some may think this comparison is weird because
of how different it looks. It's kind of like when
Shaq was in the league. We all watched him like
you can put one person on him, but like the
reality was, you had to scheme for him.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You had to put somebody over the top.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
You had to press of the ball, you know, like
to make it more difficult to get the inter pass
in to begin with. You had to do a lot
of different things, and at the end of the day
you had to hope that he was just.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Off that day.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
You had to hope that, yeah, I influenced that miss
it's kind of the same with Weimby, even though it's
not necessarily with the same type of route force. Although yes,
he has shown that that's coming and good luck with that,
could luck with that, if that, if that ever becomes
just a solid thing. But it's because of the way
that he can manipulate the floor. Its because of the

(23:54):
way that he get just from a sheer size advantage,
perspective and athlet us and an agility. There's not going
to be a singular matchup. We can, you know, we
we can discuss it that way because it's fun. I
personally want to know, I enjoy watching him go against chet.
I actually personally watch enjoy watching him go against a

(24:14):
D randomly. He is one of the guys that a
D gets up for. So it's a fun it's going
to be it's gonna continue to be a fun matchup
as long as both of their bodies, you know, permit it.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
But at the end of the day, there's no singular
answer for that guy. Yeah, just and and I think
to you know, final point before we move on to
six Man of the Year. To me, that's what I'm
I'm I'm enthusiastic about seeing especially as we're getting into
this upcoming season that we're starting to line up some
some quality matchups that I don't think we're talking enough
about that We're gonna have opportunities to see chet Holmgrin

(24:45):
finally being healthy, Anthony Davis hopefully will be healthy. Like
I want to see those Giannis, right Like I want
to see us being able to appreciate some of these
matchups because I think those matchups, it's what is what
will help propel Wemby to get him in that position
to be that guy that the San Antonios person know
he's capable of being. But sometimes we you know, we

(25:06):
we we already as send a player, and then we
don't look at some of those matchups that he has
on those night and night out basis and how that
could be affecting that projectory, you know. So I'm hoping that,
you know, I want to see that, because after those
guys that we're talking about are gone, like the Anthony
Davis is and maybe the Honestes, that leaves us with
the homegrins and the flags, and I don't want to
get them.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't want to see.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Them getting left in the dust, because, you know, because
Stanos is out there I was saying.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Hey, they got they're gonna have to fight maybe maybe
not the galactus. Galactus.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
You know what I'm saying, Wenby is a galactic your
tunes of the base like Cali.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Won't you our special against Jabari Davis?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
As we are covering our NBA Awards, next up, man,
let's do the sixth Man of the Year. It's it's
almost a consensus, but I do think that it's hard
pressed for us not to believe that Josh Hart should
essentially become the same Man of the Year. I'm gonna
start with you, Jabari on this one. Listen, Man, he's
been doing this now for a few years. It's kind

(26:07):
of hard to imagine him not hoisting this particular trophy
with these numbers. It's remarkable because realistically, the numbers that
he puts up, you would think that he's a starter
in in UH for most other NBA teams, but for
the New York Nixies exactly where he needs to be,
and his productivity, to me helps redefine and reshape the

(26:28):
importance of what the six.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Man should should be should be moving forward.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Josh, I mean you put it perfectly. Josh Hart does
everything that you want a winning basketball player to do
if you have if you have aspirations to play winning
basketball as a team and have success you know, like
you know, not just over the course of a regular season,
not just over the course of a stretch, but long
term success deep runs. You need players like Josh Hart.
The trouble is, there's not a lot of not a

(26:55):
lot of guys that have his specific skill set and
his motor and his and and can you all of
the different things he can do.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I you know, like I'll go here.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
He's one of the only of those you know, those
baby Lakers that everybody used to like to make fun like,
oh they sold the farm, and yeah, it is what
it is. He's the guy that I actually miss the
most because because like you can put him, he's the
guy that if you like, if you have a bad team,
he's gonna come out and he's gonna fight, and he's
gonna any and he's gonna do what he does and
he's gonna contribute. If you have a good team, he's

(27:25):
gonna come out and he's going to contribute to that.
You know, contribute to that. You know that that's not
you know, that player that level to play. If you
have a great team. He can also hit those levels.
He's going to do all of the little things, all
of the dirty work, and you know, play above his size.
You'll defend above his size, be able to defend multiple,
you know, multiple positions. And he's a guy that you know,
you know it was made a joke before, but you

(27:48):
know he's going to be there if you want to
play him forty eight minutes a game, eighty two, you know,
eighty two games a year. If it's you know, if
he if he's physically capable, he's gonna give it to you.
So I don't disagree with this pick. It makes the
most sense.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And from my lens, while we're pseudo picking against the grain,
because this is usually a war that goes to somebody
who scores the most, and I think the odds on
favorite is nas Reid, who won the war I guess
a couple of years ago, and it could be presumably
be back in that DeAndre Hunters also in that space,
but he's going to get some starting opportunities because Cleveland's
going into the season already banged up with Darius Garland
and Max Struz, so Hunter is probably going to start

(28:25):
for Cleveland for a good majority. Peyton Pittrid won the
ward last year hit the most amount of three. So again,
all scores like guys who score the last like kind
of grit and grind guy, so to speak. In this
same run was I think Montress Morrell who won it
like X amount of years ago as a six man.
So Josh Hart kind of embodies those things. He'll do
everything and right now, you know, if we believe what

(28:47):
we've seen in the preseason, he will. Yeah, he won't
be a starter anymore, like they're going to start Mitchell,
Ramison and Kat and then you know obviously og Nnobi
Bridges and then Jaellen Brothers said, and that allows Heart
to be a great guy coming up the bench to
do all the things we just talked about, a little
bit of passing, a little bit of rebounding, a little
bit of defense, etc. Et cetera. So I'd love to
see somebody who doesn't just score the most points win

(29:08):
And that's why we went with Josh Hart for this one.
Here for six mens.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Everything you guys said I think is just basically spot on.
And I think the other thing as well too, is
is that what Josh Hart brings to the table at
times with his rebounding, with his defensive metrics, the versatility
that he brings could this could very well be the
year that it can help kind of offset the you know,
what we focus in and hone in on is the

(29:32):
ability to score points coming off of the bench. Because
I agree with you Shaw, I think he could easily
give the award to a guy like nas Reid, But
I think the tell tale that always tends to happen
is with nas read is that he's a great scorer,
but he can become a liability defensively at times, especially
when it comes to those those the big man matchups

(29:53):
and things. Now he's improved on, you know, in those
numbers and those metrics, but again there's an inside track
that the New York essentially are going to be either
number one or number two in the Eastern Conference. And
if that's the case, Josh Hart very well could be
an important reason on why that tends to happen, especially
with the number of minutes that he logs in on

(30:14):
a night in, night out basis, I think he's going
to have so many more opportunities for him. And I'm
going crazy by saying this, but he could very well
be one of those guys that could, you know, average
a double double at his highs. You know what I'm saying,
with the amount of opportunity and chances that are going
to be afforded him with the New York Knicks, and

(30:34):
if they score the basketball with the way that they
could potentially score this version of Mike Brown, right offensive
minded Mike Brown the New York Knicks. You know what
I'm saying, Going north of one hundred and fifteen points
per game, I mean, who's to say that that Josh
Hart isn't going to be averaging somewhere close to thirteen
fifteen points? You know what I'm saying off the bench,
That's not what he normally does, but he could very
well easily walk himself into doing that if the Knicks

(30:56):
are going to be a more offensively potent basketball team.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Let me just say this and closing, whether he averages
double double or double figures in points or not, I
think it's just you know, we're going to see the
intangibles and things done, and I'd love I mean it's
not it's not sexy, but I'd love to see him
like eight seven and five. But understanding what that impact is,
you know what I mean, Those are very solid numbers
across the board, but you know, we just don't we

(31:20):
don't appreciate that in the same way. So I think
as we all want to say we're better and better
consumers of the game and the sport somebody like that,
doing something like that would kind of prove that, you
know what I mean, as opposed to like, oh, we
got score sixteen a game. I don't know it. It's
kind of bold hot for me, but selve.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Josh Hart aka Black Adam.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
The anti hero of the sixth of what we believe
the man a.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Wardshould be anti hero and got them right.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Your dude to the base, like Cali warns, Shares specially
gainst you, Barry Davis. Now we talk about the MV
the Most Valuable Playoff, Yeah, we all have a different
selection here. I'm gonna start with you, Jabbari, not that
you're trying, you know what I'm saying to be biased.
I genuinely believe that you you rally, you sat down

(32:11):
and you really, like you know what I'm saying, You
etched out the numbers, you did the algorithm, and you
you knew that it had to come down to Luca,
while my man Shaw, you know what I'm saying, believes
that this is the year of the the Wemby, not
the Webby, but the Wemby to get multiple awards this year.
And and me, I just believe that a man just

(32:32):
has to have a conversation with Michael Jordan and he's
just gonna basically get himself the trophy. So, Luca and Wemby,
it's when we have selected our MVP.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I'm gonna start with you. Uh, Jay, why why why? Luca?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I've already got to complain because the Luca that I voted,
that I am putting this vote in for, is not
the Luca that was on their graphic. Luca that was
on the graphic was last year's Luca. I wouldn't have
voted for last year. Your last year is Luca. Hey, man, Hey,
I appreciate you go down and again, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm not seeing a different I'm not I'm not seeing
the difference. Okay, you know what the difference is.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
It's like the difference between my current picture and my
high school graduation picture.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It ain't to say same man, but it's not the
same man. That's all I'm saying, hold me on the
road program. He's on the road program. And it had
you smiling. Hey man, hey they like that. Ain't that
ain't my Luca? All right?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
But no jokes aside. I mean that because like that
is going to be you know, for me, that's the difference.
And I was, you know, like as a Lakers fan,
full full disclosure in case anybody wasn't you know, wasn't
aware of this. I was always going to be like, hey,
you know what, that's my guy. I'm gonna support my guy.
But in the back of my mind, it was always
going to be hope his body, you know, hope his
body can you can manage It's it's you not to

(33:53):
continue to reference Shack. It's the same way I felt
like in three and o four with Shack, where it
was like once his body four, you know, you know
what I mean, which his body started to you know,
balloon up a little bit, it was like, oh, hope
that can last. You know, like, hope you can get
like this is gonna sound callous, but you hope you
can get as much greatness as possible out of that
player while they you know, while their body permits. Now

(34:14):
that he you know now that he is you know,
he's got his body right, he's got the extra motivation
of okay, you know, the trade is done. I am
a Laker now. You know, he's you know, he's extended.
So he's obviously he's at least willing to be there
for a few years and see what they can figure
out around him.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I look at this as a situation where it's a
confluence of things. He got into shape. Lebron is out
at the start of the year, which could continue to
be a situation over the course of the season. You know,
like that is what that is. It's his team. It
is absolutely his team. I made this reference like like
another on another show, but it's kind of like, you know,
like you're from the beginning. It's like that scene in

(34:53):
seven where Detective Mills has was already you know, in
Somerset's office and they were scraping Somersets and they off
the door. This is this is Detective Mills's job, you
know what I'm saying, Like, hopefully then go hopefully it
isn't end the way that he ended for that partnership.
So I'm rambling, but let me pull it together. I think,

(35:14):
you know, in the NBA, especially with the MVP award war,
but with all awards, it's a lot of times it's
a narrative situation. We've been talking about Luke, and by
we I mean the general NBA conversation. We've been talking about, Oh,
is this a year for Lucas MVP? Is this a
year for Lucas MVP for the last two to three
seasons at the very least on the big stage with
a team that is more geared towards his skill set.

(35:35):
I don't think they're done, but more gear to gear
towards his skill set at this point, and with all
of the other, you know, variables that I mentioned, I
think this could be the year, if, if there's going
to be a year, I think this is the year
where Luca finally gets over the top.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And I'll top in. You know, from the Lucas standpoint that, yeah,
every year, seemingly we're at least trying to put him
in the top two, like he's he's got to be
in there, and one or not he can stay healthy
enough to be there. I think that's often been the question.
But the year he averaged whatever was like thirty four
or whatever, It's like it was just blazing the league
when it came to the points, and obviously it's a
play creation and now being on quite not even arguably

(36:10):
the most popular team in sports to me, but definitely
in the NBA, Like there's there's there's so many things
built in for this to happen, you know, Lebron Saiatica
going into the season, just all the things seem to
make sense. I think Feluca in there. I went with
Wenby because I'm just trying to I'm trying to accelerate
the timeline and again I might be like forged and
next Men or the case to be jumping ahead, and

(36:31):
I really need to kind of like listen, you know what,
We're probably a here, maybe even two a way where
he can do all of this, be a defensive Player
of the Year candidate and an MVP. But I think
the Spurs are poised for something really big and big
by meaning like middle of the pack in the Western Conference.
And if they can get to be a four or
four or even five seed in the West under his
leadership and his very real gaudy statistics, I think there's

(36:53):
things that can be here. See I'm gonna kick it
to you because I know we need to talk about
you know, your player as well too. However, it does
something that the three of us are almost kind of
disregarding that SGA who won the award last year, and
I don't know, like if people love him like that,
and that's to really feel like that, but also knowing
that it took truly a historical season from him to
beat out Jokic, who really is the best player in basketball. No,

(37:16):
forget what we're saying about any of these gots right now.
And I don't know the Yokic narrative comes back into
play as well too, But you know your thoughts on
ant cl.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I want to go back.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Let me just quickly picking back on your point regarding
SGA and Jokic. Right, we are not dismissing the fact
that they are going to be in the mix. But
I do think that both teams, right and the way
that their rosters are structured are specifically catered in designed
to help take the load off that they Their numbers

(37:50):
are going to be impressive, but they may not be
impressive enough because we believe that the guys that we're
selecting are going to take another level and that level
will keep them in the conversation and eventually it'll come
down to, you know, obviously, what the teams are completely
doing and where those guys are, you know, during critical
matchups and things of that nature. To my point, Anthony

(38:13):
Edwards has just consistently proven for the last couple of
years that he wants to be the guy. He may
not know how to go about doing it. The kid's
still all but what what twenty four years old? Okay,
But you sit down and you have a conversation with
one of the greats in the game, with one of
the killers of the game of basketball on what you
need to take yourself to that next level, and you

(38:35):
go out there and you execute.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
It and implement it.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
He doesn't have anybody holding him back from being able
to do that. And I'm not saying that the Minnesota
Timberwolves are just gonna instantly go to the NBA Finals,
but I will say that if there is a version
of us believing that the Minnesota Timberwolves can take that
next step, it would have to be because Anthony Edwards
is now electing to say I'm just gonna go full

(38:58):
super saying on everybody and every person that I deal
with every matchup that I go against. You know what
I'm saying, and the opportunity is there to do that.
And I don't know whether or not the window is
gonna still be there, but you can't be hanging around
the Western Conference finals conversation, especially with the kind of
years that they've had and not actually say Anthony Edwards

(39:19):
should not be one of the direct reasons that they're there.
Because of it, I think it's now you take that
next step. Much to Jabbari's point, he's saying that this
is Luca's team. Right, we've said that this is Anthony
Edwards team so much so that Carl Anthony Towns has
got to go be the man somewhere else, you know,
for another team. You get what I mean. This is
Anthony Edwards team. Now the next events this should be

(39:40):
Anthony Edwards League. And to do that, he's gonna have
to show up and show out against the bigger names
on a nightly basis. The Minnesota Will don't have to
be the best team in the Western Conference or the
best team in the WNBA, but those days where Anthony
Edwards needs to be great, he needs to be great,
and I think he's gonna do that this year.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I'll just say this. I'll listening to another show and
it was interesting because I was like, ah, it made
it made some I think valid points when it comes
to the MVP case, and it was like for him
to pass some of the guys that we've already mentioned,
like he may need to average like literally over thirty, right,
I think that the points per game is gonna have
to be in that same thing in addition to the
ability to play create because we all know Mike Connley

(40:21):
is very long in the twos here and so like,
can he give you a combination of thirty two, thirty
three and six seven dimes? You know, four or five rebounds?
You know what I mean? A steal and a half
while playing lockdown defense? Physically he's capable. Can the Wolves
sustain him doing that throughout the course of the season
even with nas Reed and Julius Randall? You know on

(40:42):
the Ross root, can you know spell the offense here
and there? I think that's it makes it a harder case,
but not an impossible case for Anthony yet.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Can I give you can I give you a quick
counter before you jump in, Jabari? I completely agree with you, Shaw,
but you know where I believe Anthony Edwards may poss
take that. That's where I'm banking on this. If I'm
pushing my chips all in on this, it's to me
how SGA really elevated himself to become the MVP. He
did it with brutal efficiency. I think if we see

(41:13):
a better, more efficient version of Anthony Edwards getting to
those thirty points, meaning getting onto the free throw line
a lot more, I'm posing his will to force more
fouls so that he doesn't like the one thing that
I appreciate. Because everyone's talking about all now that Anthony
Edwards has got the three, I'm like, no, I don't
want him to have the three. I want him to
punish the smaller guards that he deals with on a

(41:34):
night and night out basis and get to the free
throw line. If he backs off of that just a
little bit and puts more emphasis on punishing those, I
think he gets to the thirty without having to take
twenty five shots. To me, if you do it with efficiency,
you get your numbers, but at the same time you
still have an impact. And I'm thinking that's what I'm
gonna see from Anthony Edwards this year is for him
to be a little bit more efficient and not rely

(41:56):
on the three like he was doing all last year.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, and I really don't have that much to add
to it.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
You guys put it perfectly like the guy has already
shown that he's got the game. But what's most impressive
to me about Anthony Edwards is it seems like every
offseason he's adding a little bit. He's you know, like
whether it's extending his shot, whether it's coming you know,
coming to lockdown to figure whether it's both you know,
boking even further in order to be able to deal
with the wear and tear. Look, I I may like

(42:22):
if if you know, God than had if I had to, like,
if I were betting, I may not bet on him.
But if like say, for instance, I were not as
believing as I am in Luca, that would probably be
my second choice.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Right.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
So, I mean, while there are no guarantees there obviously,
you know, we have a long season, like, you know,
like ahead of us. Kind of to Warrant's point about
you know about Wimby, the reality is this, if Anthony
Edwards in a ever you know, deep Western conference, can
get them to a top three four seed with some
efficiency and still putting up those crazy numbers that that's

(42:57):
the path like it gets. So the answer is, yes,
it could, it can be done.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It's ironic, Jabari, and you know we'll get into our
awards in a moment, but it's ironic. I would have
still been on the Luca train. I had been a
proponent for Luca to have been the MVP, had he
still been in Dallas, because it was all to himself,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
It didn't matter who he had.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
He could have he had Kyrie, he could have had Andy,
and I would have still said Luca has gotta be
the MVP because he's just he's been that great of
a player. But the moment that he went to the
Los Angeles Lakers and he had to play next to
Lebron James, I had to wait a season for me
to see whether or not that same Luca was gonna
be out there on the basketball court to supersede a

(43:40):
team that has been seen through the eyes of Lebron James.
And so if you believe in that, I could easily
get on board with saying Luca would be the MVP
this year.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And I feel like.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
That to me is where I'm on my whole pattern
because of the Saya. I get that, but I still
feel like it's still Lebron's team. So I want to
see what version of Luca comes out going to dispel that.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
What.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I won't turn this into the debate about that, but
what I get it because we've never seen a Lebron
team that wasn't a Lebron team. But yes, this is
it now right right?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Like everybody, everybody is speaking to the numbers, I'm speaking
to the aura. I'm speaking about the feel of is
that my team? And I think if Luca takes that
by the the Gonats right day one game one of
you know what I'm saying of the season, I will
then be like, all right, he's for real now, like

(44:33):
this is for real, like all of the other semantics
going on, This is for real. Your tune to the baseline,
Kylie Warrenshaw. Great conversation with our brother, you know what
I'm saying. He always loves to bring it with us.
Our manager Barry Davis joining us coming up time for
the baseline Awards. Man, I know you all been waiting
for that, you know what I'm saying, patiently waiting, Well,
it's time for us to deliver keep it here on

(44:54):
the baseline and we're back Cali Warren Shah and our
special guest Jabari Davis joining us here Baseline NBA Podcast.

(45:16):
Time for us to do the Baseline Awards. This is
the fun one.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I love the fact that we you know, we've been
doing this long enough that we basically feel like, all right,
let's let's actually give out awards that we would want
to give out. You know what I mean, Like it's
kind of like kind of stuff that's like really acknowledging cats,
you know what I'm saying for what we believe encompasses
and embodies are NBA.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
So let's start off.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
By giving out the Macguyver Award that is the player
that does the most with the least. My man, Jabari,
I will allow you to go ahead and honor who
is the recipient of this year is Magiver Award.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Jabari, Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I uh man, it was bound to happen at some point.
All right, sorry about that. No, I I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Count Uh.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
This is you know, I really like this award because
you know it, Look, we know who the main main
characters are, we know who's on the marquee. We know,
you know, who's going to get a lot of the credit,
and not in any way that you know, we don't
show love to the secondary guys or the support guys.
But I really, I really do appreciate that, you know
that the show has always like you know, thrown them

(46:38):
front center. Look when I make these when when I
say this about this player, I recognize that Derek White
has far more athleticism than I or a normal person
on the street. You know, has I understand this. I
know he's physically gifted compared to normal people, but by
comparison to NBA guys. When I think of players, and

(47:00):
you know, it's funny because another guy that I considered
for this, you know, we we've already just recently discussed,
was Josh Hart. But when I think about guys, they
get the most out of their body, the most out
of their you know, their god given talent that bringing
on a nightly basis that are true mcguyvers. That doesn't
matter what the situation is, what you ask of them,
they can give that to you. So if it's you know,
defend the best you know, you know, be the point

(47:22):
of attack, defender on the best you know, the best score.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
They can do that. If it's you know, get.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Down in the block and and and and actually rebound,
you'll rebound well for you know, for a swingman or
you or or lead your lead position.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
They can do that.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
If it's hey, you know what, on a random night,
we might need sixteen to eighteen or twenty points out
of you or even more, they can give that to you.
When I think of that player, it's still Derek White.
And and as funny as it is with you know,
you know, you guys have seen it up close to personal.
You know, these last few years, I've been jealous of that,
uh deal, tremendously jealous of that because it's my favorite

(47:56):
type of player, you know, the glue guy you know,
like you know, if you will, But it's still for me,
you know, like when I think of that one guy,
if you like that could play literally on any team
and contribute on any team and do all of those
things well for any team, it's Derek White. So he's
this year's Mcguy Reward for me.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, I think it's a it's an excellent pick and
he's going to have obviously a super elevated role with
Jason Tayta being out in Boston and where if the
preseason is any indication, I don't know what else he
might be up for, but I mean he he's out here,
he hooping, he chuck it, and those threes are going up.
But he's also getting the opportunity to distribute even more.
I think we're going to see kind of even to

(48:37):
what you're saying, how good he really is even more
from what we think the concept of Derek White ultimately is.
And really he does maximize the most out of his
god given ability and works very hard and has to
extra play some of that too. And I think Missoula
in the way that they coach him in Boston, is
giving him even more confidence in essence to do some
of those things that he might be a little bit

(48:57):
lower key because you would have looked at him and think, Okay,
he's going to go, but he pulls up sometimes like yah, bro,
you shot that, Like like he's he's got a lot
of confidence. And it's really excited to see mattur racial
cross have happened for dark Way.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, and look the floor has now opened up a
little bit more from him. I know that he'll be
playing next to Peyton, Pritchard. But I mean, if you
really think about it, he doesn't have Drew Holliday next
to him, so he will have the ball in his
hands a lot more. I think that this is an
opportunity for Listen. I know that we're not going to
be talking about him being most improved player, but he

(49:29):
may put up the kind of numbers that has conversations
of what a most improved player would probably look like. Yeah,
because we're still used to Yeah, because we you know,
and especially since we don't know, you know, when Tantam is,
we won't know what, you know, how Jalen Brown is
going to be, Like, he's going to put up some
pretty impressive numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if he's going

(49:50):
to be top ten, I'm just sorry, not top ten,
probably top five as far as three point shooting, three
point shots made and possibly percentage, right, Like, I just
think that this is gonna be an opportunity for him,
you know, And if the Celtics are gonna double down
on their ability to shoot the three, what better tandem
to probably have in getting that with White and with

(50:11):
Peyton as your backcourt, with Pritchard as your backcourt. So Yeah,
I think this was an excellent pick Jabari. And you know,
I'm not saying that as being you know, Celtic bias.
This is this is what it's been like, and I've
only seen it get better because of the time that
he spent playing next to Drew Holiday to be a
much more efficient point guard.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
And that's what the Celtics are gonna need.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
They're gonna need an efficient point guard, but also the
ability that he can still make shots as well too.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
All right, let's move things forward. Shaw.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I am going to hand it over to you as
you are going to give us the recipient of the
keep Ish Together Glue Guy.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Of the Year Award.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah. So my recipient of this is is a lot
of it's gonna make sense. There's a little bit of
hope involved that my guy can stay healthy because I
have a back in case he doesn't. But I think
one of the more important guys in the NBA right
now and to this season is actually going to be
Jaalen Suggs keeping Ish Together. The Glue Guy of the Year.

(51:10):
I'm going with Jalen Suggs or the Orlando Magic. We
saw what he was able to do last year, especially
when Boncarro and and Wangnara out and how important he was,
and when they came back and then he went out,
Orlando still never really recovered. That's how important he is
to the connectivity pieces of that. Although that's from his truly,
truly demon like defense, and he play creates a little bit.

(51:32):
I mean, he's not elite, but he's doing enough there
and he's shooting the three end with a decent percentage,
and Orlando desh Balila needs that. Yes, they have another
guy who was actually gonna come up I think in
a little while as well too. But I think the
glue Guy of the year is going to be Jalen Suggs. Now,
if it is not Jalen Suggs because of injury, my
backup is actually gonna be somebody else in the East,
and that would be Dyson Daniels. I think he's going

(51:53):
to be very important to what Atlanta does as well too.
But for my money, Jaalen Suggs makes a lot of
sense in Orlando.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I can't argue with that Shaw because I'm again we've
had this conversation about what we think about the magic.
We've had you know, special guests on to talk about
that as well too. You know, my whole thing with
Jalen Suggs is is that, you know, if everything falls together,
he doesn't get injured and things of that nature, they
will be a very good, vulnerable team. They're gonna probably

(52:20):
be a contender, you know, in the in in the East,
no question. So yeah, I think that this is a
great opportunity for Jalen Suggs to continue to elevate himself,
and this award I think will be will be significant
towards that because the Magic are I have to get
that out of him to do the kind of stuff

(52:41):
that's going to prevent von Caro and Wagner from getting injured,
Baine from getting injured. He's going to be the one
to do that dirty work. Hopefully it will not be
at the expense that they lose, you know, because you know,
again they'll have Jones and company and stuff like that.
But I think to your point, what he brings to
the table I think is quintessential for the Magic success.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
So I like that pick.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Yeah, I think this is an excellent pick. And it's
funny that both of the guys you mentioned, like, let's
be real about it, both Atlanta, you know, both Atlanta
and Orlando are in a position to be in like
in the top two three maybe you know, you know,
maybe four, you like in Eastern Conference, but they could
very well be the top two, top two teams or
two of the top teams in the conference. And for
that to take place, you know, you would imagine that
both of those guys are are are are are contributing it,

(53:24):
you know, a great deal. When it comes to Jal
and Sugs, I'm gonna keep it real with you. While yes,
I thought he was good, he had some games prior
to you know, prior to that injury last year where
I was like, oh he's got that Oh okay, oh
he's got that type of game. So no, I can't
disagree with, you know, with this pick at all with
either of those two players mentioned, but in particular with Suggs,
you know, to the point that you made if his

(53:45):
body holds up, uh, you know, Orlando, I feel like
we've wanted to say this could be the year. You know,
this could be their year again, This really could be
their year. With the additions they've made and you know,
the internal improvements, you know that you know that that
that they this really could be it.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I do want to see Mosley do a little more
with with Sugs. I would like to see him kind
of unleash him a little bit more, But we'll see.
I feel at times that he's probably held him back.
I don't know if it's like a level of trust.
It is something that I questioned, you know before, with
the reason why the Magic made sure that they went
and got tyus Jones. I just hope it's more so

(54:23):
to protect the continuity of the team, to keep what
Sugs is bringing to the table more so than it
is not having the confidence to have him be out
there on the court and be a significant contributor for
the Magic to continue where they're ascending to. So it'll
be interesting to see. All right, I guess it's my turn,
and so now I will deliver you the recipient of

(54:45):
the best fit on a new team. I don't know
whether or not I was selected because it sounded like,
you know, I'm giving out the you know it's the
best well dressed.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
But when we talk about best fit on a new team,
it's base the player who for the team that they're
going to, they are going to fit right in, and
you are going to see instant results. You're going to
definitely get your returns what they call in the business world,
we say ROI in return of investment is definitely going

(55:16):
to come forth with For the team. I have got
two selected, but I believe one main and then one
is a backup. My main is going to be Desmond
Bane of the Orlando Magic. Look, Orlando Magic said that
we need to address shooting. We needed a shooter, and
what do they do. They're going to get arguably one
of the best and youngest shooters in the game of
basketball in Desmond Bane. But I think more importantly why

(55:39):
he will also be the best fit of this team
is Desmond Baine is a gamer.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
He is a competitor.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
He is somebody that I believe not just because of
his physical stature, but also for the way that he
plays the position that he plays. That to me is
it represents a lot of the identity of what the
Orlando Magic already looks like. A young, very tough, minded,
physical type of basketball team. And I think you want
that across the board. The last thing you want to

(56:06):
do is get a guy who basically shoots and is
I don't want to say has had is a prissy
or anything like that. But he's too delicate, you know
what I'm saying, Like you got to protect the dude
instead of having him getting out there in the trenches
and playing that the game as physical as the rest
of your teammates do.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And sometimes it's the.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
It's the numbers that's speaking to it, or it's the
window of winning, right, Like you get a guy because
he looks great, but as far as the fit goes,
it doesn't kind of work well with Listen, we can
talk about Kevin Durant, right and and what happened out
there with with with Phoenix, Bradley Beal and what happened
out there in Phoenix. There's some guys, while the numbers
look great, the feel and the fit to the team don't.

(56:48):
I think Desmond Bane fits that narrative. I think it's
great for your LANDA magic people are probably gonna get
anty and see well you see the results from it.
I think that this is not just a short term
but also a long term Investmentella, you benefits for.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
The match tomorrow. Your thoughts here more so from because
like well I always I get the pleasure of working
the s all week to week and we challenge each
other here and there. I think I was surprised he
didn't pick the aforementioned Kevin Durant here. Maybe it was
too easy, but your thoughts on bains fit in Orlando
as potentially the best fit new threats uh being know
for this NBA season.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
I'm actually really It's what's funny is, look the KD thing.
We all have respect for him, but he's in all
time greade. He's one of the greatest scorers this game
has ever seen, and still clearly one of the best.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Scores in the game right now.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
So I think that would have been the layup, you
know what I mean, Because it's the it's the bigger
name or the more noteworthy name, more historical name, but
the best fit is actually des Bain. And here's why.
The Okay, I'm gonna reference Euphouria the Kendrick distrack. You
four your real he says. The first time I saw
me a drake, You're like, I didn't aim down enough

(57:55):
to home. He told me the amed this way. So
what they did was a couple of years ago, they
went down and they said we're gonna get KCP because
we saw what he did. A couple of years ago,
you know, and we've seen what he does when he
plays with elite playmaking, elite playmaking which we do not have.
But we're gonna expect him to do those things here
and CACP. You know, all respect to him, but he's

(58:15):
not that guy. He's a guy that you if you
set him up, he can absolutely be an accent.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
He you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
He's the jalapenos on top on top of pizza, not
the peperon all right, So you go out and you say,
let me know who, Oh, I know, Desmond Bane, Desmond Bain.
To go out gets him buckets. Desen Bain is not
going to wait for you to give it to him.
He does not need for you to give to him.
While yes he can be a contributor, and yes he
can be a good part of a good part of

(58:40):
a system, he's not a guy that is dependent on
anybody else to keep him going, you know, to keep
him going or to get him going. So in terms
of what Orlando has needed more than anything to somewhere,
it isn't you know, because look, min Caro is what
he is. He's fantastic. He's gonna continue to improve it.
You know that that seems evident, you know, Franz Wagner
is what he like, Like they have good pieces. They

(59:01):
needed that guy that you could throw the ball to
or say go get it, Go get it in a series,
go get it in a particular matchup, go get it
in a particular game or even a particular quarter. And
they have that match. So I think this will do.
I think this will the record.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah all right, well, I'm gonna let' see all off
the hook here, you know, because I actually I like
this pick a lot too, and I appreciate him not
going with the lay up of KD At the end
of the day. It's like we like, we know what
it is with Kevin Durant and he should be a
seamless fit kind of everywhere. And I think the impact
that we're looking for Bain to make, Bain will actually
be able to make. And that reference to KCP, I
think is an excellent, excellent take, Like, you know what,

(59:38):
we basically got KCP on crack steroids or whatever you
want to call it, you know what I mean, That
can really reduce what we need to do in Orlando.
So I think that's a great pick. Sal what's our next.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
To one, all right, So I think now it's on
to Jabbari, who will do the I got next Player,
who we think is going to take a massive leap
next year.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I got next to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I really like this award too, honestly, guys, it's so
good to be back on the show with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Man, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm not trying to you know,
I'm not just trying to kiss you know, kiss bon
because I'm on with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I mean it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
So I like this award as well because I'm always
looking for, like, oh, who's next, who's gonna be Who's
gonna be that gext gott to pop off and you know,
pop off and show somebody, And I think, and I think,
it's kill a whare and the and the reality is
this with any of these awards, obviously it's opportunity, but
with some of them in particular, it's an opportunity. It's
it's it, you know, and and some of it is

(01:00:33):
due to oftentimes it's due to unfortunate circumstances. But really
in professional sports, it's next man, it's the next guy,
or who's on the horizon, or who could take us
to the problem. Who is the next guy to be
able to be able to take us to the Promise Land.
And if I'm looking at that situation in Miami and
you've got you know, Tyler Hero, I don't know what
the situation is. I know that if I'm not mistaking,
he still out to start the year and it and

(01:00:54):
it's relatively indefinite. They've got you know once you know
Bam went down in the preseason with a knee injury.
I know that it's not you know, it doesn't it
didn't believe to be serious. But if there's any question there,
you know, you definitely don't want to have him ruined anything.
So you're gonna be as careful as you can with him.
You're looking at Miami and you know, in a situation
where I understand that you know, pat Riley has a

(01:01:15):
great deal of your pride and he's always shown that,
you know, regardless of whether you agree with his basket
you know his current basketball acumen. You know like that,
you know that that does mean something. So if I'm
them and I and I look at like, you know,
some of my star or my star players or my
star you know the players that I'm saying I'm paying
as stars they may or may not be available, and
even when they're there, we you know, we we have

(01:01:36):
a clear ceiling there. It's time to press reset. So
I think this could be the year where you have
the again, the confidence of things you've got, you know, Miami,
where if they're smart, they're gonna you know, they're gonna
sell high on a lot of their prospects and they're
gonna see and see what else is there. Kell Elware
showed it last year. But I think what I'm most
impressed by by him is, you know, he went, you know,

(01:01:58):
he entered the summer in there, you know, in sponsor's doghouse.
He came out and said all the right things, appears
to have done all the right things to get himself ready,
appears to be ready to address all of those concerns
that were rightfully and justifiably you'll let you know, brought
up you'll in terms in terms of its consistency, and
it just feels like this is going to be a

(01:02:19):
year where, look, he put up what some people would
consider pedestrian numbers, but were solid numbers last year. I
could see this being a year where he has career
numbers in every single you know, every single measurable you
you know stat and it just looked it just looks
like one of those words like oh wow, now we
got to talk about killo. We're in a different conversation
moving forward. So that's why I gave him met Award

(01:02:41):
this year. What do you guys think is anybody else
more more deserving?

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
No, not in not in this space. I'm like, I'm
seeing level where I live, have some great access to
Miami and you know, mister ware in itself and right,
the doghouse statement is very true. Preseason, He's looked amazing.
He looked like somebody who's like, listen, I'll do whatever
the team needs me to do. I asked Tyler Herol
specifically at the media day and he's like, yeah, collel

(01:03:05):
like he falls in love with to three, but he
can be a vertical spacer for us a little bit
more than he thinks and so forth, and so for like,
this was hero speaking, right, and to understand that Khalil
had maybe taken some of that unnecessary criticism, but that
just kind of like that feedback rather and say hey,
let me just plug in. So I think he is
he has the tool set and again was not traded

(01:03:26):
for the aforementioned Kevin Durant like mine was like, now
we go hold on to this young Dudekdi's awesome and
all first ballt hall of Fame and all that. We're
not ready for Kevin durright here, that he's not gonna
accelerate us in the way that Kalel will obviously for
now in the years to come to. So I like
this pook a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Too nice, all right, So now it is time for
us to do the Robin award. I hand this over
to my man's shaw, you know. And even though technically
I'm Robin get out of here anyway, But it's the
penguin out here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
You get to be the villain. You need to go
to Alfred. You wouldn't be a whole another villain, hey man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
He well looked like being Alfred.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Hold up, man, why are you gonna put you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Wouldn't any jokers. I'm the I'm the joker, he said,
you serve me boy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Okay, Well, we are all playing Ray how you said
joker too, because that's you know Purple, you know, he
just loves him superple.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Well, we're all playing roles. We are unfamiliar with, and
I think, as we spoke about this in the beginning,
the La Laders have become Luca Doctors team, and for
the first time in history, Lebron James is going to
be playing a robin and I'm going to give him
pre premeditated the Robin Award for the best second option
or second best player on any team. Lebron obviously has

(01:04:58):
more than a Hall of Fame career, obviously the best,
if not one of, if not the best player of
all time, and now despite Seata Siad concerns and the
whole nine, is still a mother effort when it comes
to his competition and wanting to win. What that looks
like for the Lakers this year, still don't know, but
I think right now with him now kay into obviously

(01:05:20):
in the twil Adams career, he's going to be the
second best player on his team, but the second best
player in the NBA altogether, so to speak, when it
comes to second options, and I'm really excited to see
how he embraces this and what the statistical production ultimately
looks like, because his number two option numbers are still
going to be better than a lot of people's number ones.
And that's just how good Lebron James is. I thought

(01:05:43):
about crawling a threty talents in this, but at the
end of the day, Lebron makes the most amount of sense,
especially with the way the Lakers are trending.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I got to check it to my Lakers guys first
and foremost to see what you think about Lebron as
a Robin for this year for the first time ever
in his life.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
That that's the craziest thing about it, just like I
just never thought that we would get here. And that's
and that sounds crazy because like, yeah, like to the
point that Cal made earlier, like have we ever seen
him like I don't even want to say in a
subservient role but in a secondary world?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
So when I look, I watched Korea in the eighties
when I was a kid, I watched Kareem you know,
be the be the man and accept the ascension of
Magic Johnson. And you know it was very clear by
the end of that run who you know, who the
who who the guy that was on that team. We
watched Shack go from being the clear cut man to
win all of a sudden when he's in Miami. While yes,

(01:06:35):
he still contributed and still did great. That was Dwayne
Wade's you know your team, you know they when they
when they won that title. I've never seen, you know, like,
I've never even thought about or even considered Lebron in
this deal. But you know, this is kind of where
he's at, and I'll be honest with you, I still
have questions on whether he's ever going if he's gonna

(01:06:56):
truly embrace that role. I do I I I look,
I'm not. I'm not saying he's gonna sabotage anything. He's
gonna go out there and he's gonna give you everything.
I believe that wantedge was sin, But I also think
that at the end of the day, if it's not
going perfectly, if it isn't going to if it or
if it's not to his liking, I could absolutely still
see him saying, like, you know, New York looks good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
What happens about this before that?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
That's what I'm saying because I think it's I think
some people are just pre wired like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I am the man I am, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
For whatever reason, I think that Lebron I think that's
part of the that has part that has been part
of the motivation and driving force you like and and
and I completely understand that. So I'm not disagreeing with
the award. I think, you know, like the the award.
It makes the most sense because he is still the
best second option that you're gonna get, like he is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I just don't know if he's going to accept it,
So I think he by him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
He's tells hes to something Batman and nade Lucas Superman,
but where were we both number one front? He ain't
nobody Nobody's right a shotgun.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I feel that even if he says the right thing,
I do, I do believe that that's what That's what
Jenna's hart.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Listen, I know you probably have had the toughest assignment
because even your your honorable mentions right are worthy as
such and probably more automatic than Lebron James himself, because
again he's in an unfamiliar space. I mean, listen, you
could throw a couple of other people out there as well, too,
predicated on whether or not these teams are going to

(01:08:26):
be successful because of it. Jamal Murray, you know, you
know you could, you could make the argument for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Well, I had Kat and Jaylen Williams out, you know,
until Jaylen Williams from Okay, see, So I mean there's
there's there's plenty of guys who are great in their
roles and they're like, there's no there's no question about
who the number one is, Like Jian Bunsen is not there,
and obviously Shay is that and okay see and even
in Denver, but I think again, who's going to be

(01:08:54):
who really is truly the best player manning that position
for their preferabial team. But again to Jabari's point, we'll
see if he actually accepts that and how that plays
himself out on the basket.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Before Yeah, absolutely, your tunes to the baseline Cali one
Show special guest Jabari Davis here, And to finally round
out our baseline awards, I have been gifted the responsibility
of doling out the MVP BET the Most Valuable Player

(01:09:28):
and a Bad Team award.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Of course, you know what I'm saying. Let you know
what I'm saying, Let the shots right. You know what
I'm saying, I gotta I gotta get my kevlar.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
There is a lot of pressure with this because now
you're saying that you know this player might be empty calories,
and you're saying that his team is bad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
So but well, I'm gonna parse this out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I am gonna parse this out by saying I don't
believe his numbers are gonna be empty cal but I
believe that because the team is not gonna be good,
that it's just gonna make us feel even worse because
there have been opportunities where you would think that that
type of player should be playing in more relevant basketball

(01:10:17):
and it is not translated as such. Whether it's because
of the organization, because of the moves that were made,
or the circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Be it as it may.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
So my MVPBT is gonna be the dev Devin Booker. Listen.
I in a way, I'm saying this because I actually
like Devin Booker. I like Devin Booker's game. And if
it means that we got to go back to the
old Devin Booker to go out there and just basically

(01:10:48):
just start waxing dudes until the Phoenix Suns can get
it right to put him next to guys that he
can go out and really be successful with, then so
be it. Because that version of Devin Booker on an
in night Out basis, I I you know you would
hate seeing him. I know the Celtics did a couple
of times during their runs, and I like to see

(01:11:09):
that version of him if he can't just be on
a team where he can basically collectively share it a
lot with other guys of his of of his equal,
so to speak. I think that this team is going
to struggle, but I do think we're gonna see old
Devin Booker where he's gonna be putting up some pretty,
you know, gaudy numbers for you know, for his style
of basketball, his style of play. I think it's a

(01:11:31):
reset button, and that's the reason why I kind of
hedged my bets and that heads my bet. But I
put the caveat out there that I don't see his
numbers being you know, empty calorie numbers, because without those
numbers that he's going to be putting up, the Phoenix
Suns are going to even look worse, you know what
I'm saying. So, but I just feel like this team
is going to struggle, but I think we may see
the old bad guy back, and I think I want

(01:11:53):
to see that person out there on a night in
night out basis you know, giving it to those other
teams in the Western Conference, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I'm just gonna I'm only gonna say this and obtually
just jump right around at that. How how bad you
team the Suns are going to be? Like we picked
them in our lottery in terms of the tiers, But
I was indicators like I think they're gonna be competitively bad,
so to speak, like lose games in the fourth quarter, etcetera,
et cetera. Are you know, not get run out by
thirty every single night? I think they're still enough meat

(01:12:23):
on the bones here. But when you you know, made
this election, how bad did you partict the Suns will be?
And then Jabari jump in if you were.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I just think because we were talking about in the
way of the tiers of how close the gap is,
they're gonna suffer losses that are gonna make it look
like they're just a bad basketball team. But a lot
of it is because they're gonna be lacking things that
they tried so hard to put together over the last
couple of seasons that didn't pan out, and as a
result of it, they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Wind up probably being in the lottery because of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
But I don't think it's gonna be because they're like
the absolute worst team, like we're questioning the Utah Jazz
or maybe even some to some degree, questioning the Brooklyn Nets.
I just think that he's gonna have to be a
one man band for that team to be as relevant
and as significant as necessary, and there's not gonna be
any way around it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
So yeah, I love this pick.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
And you know what, shout out to our guy Tyler
of the Gimmick Confringate podcast, because.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
You know, when we did you know, the you know
the other.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Video he mentioned he thinks he's gonna lead the league
in scoring, and this is this is one where I
actually could see that being the case. He's never you
know that most he's ever average was twenty seven point eight.
I could I could see himutting up thirty this year.
I could definitely see him putting up thirty at night
this year. And and took both to each of your points.
While I don't think Phinish is gonna be great in

(01:13:42):
terms of the standings, I do think they're going to
be competitive. I think they're gonna be competitive enough to where,
you know, like I know that this is a hypothetical award,
but like where someone would.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
You know, Garner.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
You know that, you know, this type of love in
an award like this, I could see them winning anywhere
from thirty nine to forty you know, forty is you know,
you know, forty year forty two games. And if that's
the case, like that's going to require Devin Booker being
that type of scorer and that type of leader on
a night in, on a night out basis. So I
love to pick I think Devin Booker. It sucks that

(01:14:13):
he's been in a situation where you know, they had
the like the the limited run of success where they
made it to the finals and you know, you thought, hey,
at the very least that can be competitive over these
next few years. It thinks that they haven't been able
to put it together fully, but you know what, at
the very least, you know that Devin Booker is gonna
get you know, it's gonna come out and bring it.
So I think, yeah, I think it's a good choice.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Really, what one quick point to add to that point
that you just madej you Bari, The best version of
Devin Booker that I saw was when he played next
to Chris Paul. But that was basically the last year
of what you had left in the tank of what
Chris Paul could give you. And I think year over year,
with the way that they have flipped the roster, it

(01:14:55):
has caused Devin Booker to defer more in getting the
rest of his teammates involved, who have fallen short to
execute when it matters to most. And I think the
best version of Devin Booker is when he is the
ultra aggressive, where he is the alpha scorer. When he's
the alpha scorer, the Sons give themselves the best opportunity,
the best chances, and that's the reason why to your point, Jabari,

(01:15:17):
him scoring norse to thirty points, is it like I
would expect that, like that's what's going to have to happen.
But I'd rather see that version of him out there
on the basketball court on a nightly basis than the
version of him where he is trying to be more
of the point guard and trying to look out for
the rest of his guys. There's not enough talent scoring
wise on his roster that he's going to have to

(01:15:38):
worry about that he's got to chuck that ball and
for them to have a night in, night out basis
to win games.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I think statistically his numbers statistically are going to rival
hands hants. I really do, like, you know, scoring twenty
to thirty a night, seven says five, like, like, I
think it's going to be in that lane, but just
very different results based on the team and then in
the Western Conference. But yeah, he's an easy twenty five.
Like he gets out the bed and that's twenty five easy.

(01:16:05):
So yeah, I can very much see this. I think
this is a great pick. Most valuable playing on a
bad team unfortunately. Uh yeah, I think Devil Booker could
be that too. And there's gonna be a couple of
the guys here, you know, and you know, we'll we'll, we'll,
but we'll see where that lands, and we'll have to
see how close our predictions came to fruition whilst we
get into April and May at the close of the season,
hopefully Lucas not one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Right, I'm just keeping it real.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I'm just keeping it real.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, always do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I'm gonna tell you this much though, if if, if
Luca and I'm sorry Lebron gets the Robin Award, Luca
gets the MVP, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Know what to make of what this lake. It's like,
I'm just gonna be a guy. You know what, I'm done,
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
No longer right that everything went right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
That means they may also time host of the baseline. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
That also means they they made the deal that they
should have made in the off season. We hadn't got
Wiggins and continue to solidify that rostered around them, and
let's go ahead and make it. If you're gonna have them,
let's go ahead and make a run anyway. I can't
start that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I'm just awesome, awesome show what more can be said?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
As always, man, this is what we get when the
brothers are in the building.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
So Jabbari, do not be a stranger.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
My man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I will not say it. Not be a stranger.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
This is the This is the energy that our people's
always loving me when we are we're in the mix,
when we're stirring the pot the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Way that we do. Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Like I said, I appreciate you brothers, man, I appreciate
the invitation. I will not be a stranger. I think
we had agreed once a month type deal. So yeah, man, yeah,
over the course of the season, it's gonna be a
great season for me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Right man, Listen, I can't always be talking about Luca Magic,
I need Bori Man, I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Once again.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Man, we'd like to thank everybody for hopping on board.
It has been a great fun episode.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Again. Special love to our man Jabari. Thank you again.
My Manshaw as always bringing the goods. You know what
I mean For the baseline Caligue warn Shaw. We appreciate
each and every single one of y'all. We'll catch up
with you next time.

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