January 28, 2024 • 57 mins
Lauren Korngold is a dedicated and passionate investigator at the helm of the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of Miami (PRISM). With an unwavering fascination for the unexplained and supernatural phenomena, Lauren has established PRISM as a reputable and pioneering organization in the field of paranormal research. Under her leadership, PRISM has conducted numerous investigations into purported haunted locations, UFO sightings, and other mysterious occurrences across the Miami area. Lauren's commitment to scientific rigor and her open-minded approach to exploring the unknown have earned her and her team a respected reputation among fellow paranormal enthusiasts and skeptics alike. Through their diligent work, PRISM continues to shed light on the mysteries that surround us and push the boundaries of our understanding of the paranormal.
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All right, this is Paul Blackmoreat c KBG one on seven point three
of them at Blue Garage, Classicnickdot Com wishing Rob McConnell and all listeners
and viewers of the worldwide Exzone nationa very merry Christmas and a healthy,
happy and safe New Year. AllHenry, Welcome to the X Zone,
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Rob McConnell to in that thing bringingthe heart into a million pieces like
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evening one and online. Welcome backto the X Zone. I am Rob
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McConnell, and for the next hour, i'm your host and your guidance.
Together we cross the time space continuumto this place that I call the xxone.
It's a place where people dare tobelieve and dare to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fictionand fiction is reality. And the X
Zone comes to you from our broadcastcenter and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,
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and into the great Beyond on Classictwelve twenty CA. My guest this hour
exphonation is a young lady that I'vehad the pleasure of talking to a number
of times. Her name is Laurencorn Gold and she is in Miami,
Florida, and Karen, welcome back, Lauren, I'm sorry, welcome back
to the X Zone. Well,thank you once again for having me.
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It's my pleasure, Laurden. Whydon't you tell our listeners a little bit
about yourself. Well, I wasborn in Miami, and to the point,
I am a psychic medium. Istarted seeing spirits when I was about
jevin six as far maybe before,I don't remember, and I've been seeing
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them and marring them every since.Okay, let's go back to the very
first time that you can remember usingyour psychic abilities. When did you When
did that happen? Well, thefirst time I remember, I was very
sick. I used to get whatthey used to call the crew, and
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my mother used to put me intobed with these wet sheets over me,
and I was very sick. Iwas coughing. I was probably about six
or seven, and all of asudden I saw these shadows outside of the
seat walking around me. And thenall of a sudden, this woman appeared
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in front of my feet, andshe had all this wonderful light coming from
her. It did look like radiatinglight. It sort of looked like the
photosphere of the sun, with thesebig pixels of light go up and down.
And she looked at me and Icould tell that she was not like
me, solid, but she wassmiling, and she said to me,
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honey, don't worry, You're goingto be just fine. And then she
was gone, and so were theothers that I never knew where the others
were behind the seat, but thoseshadow people or whatever you want to call
them, they were also gone.And I just, you know, it
felt strange but yet so natural,like I don't know, like super supposed
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to be there. What type ofpsychic abilities do you possess, Laura,
And how do you manifest them?How do you get them to kick in?
Well? I see and hear ofspirits. I don't really do anything
to manifest them. I kind ofjust walk into a room and I either
see something or I hear something.Although I do medicate, and when after
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a medication period of about twenty minutes, I feel more excute, I feel
more aware, and sometimes the voicesare more pronounced and I can see them
that's when I grab my camera andtake your pick or take an audio so
that people don't think I'm schizophrenic.So what type of different methods or tools
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do you use when doing your psychicgreetings? Do you use tarot cards,
crystals? Do you use astrology?How do you do it? No?
I do have tarot cards and getA friend of mine suggested that I learned
the tarrot and I was I'm terribleat it. I had to write on
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the cards what you know what?Like the death card, for instance,
means chain, you know the youknow the sun? What does this mean?
So you know when you have todo that. That's not really your
forte and just wasn't working out.So I gave that up and I wasn't
really getting anything from it. SoI don't really use crystals or or anything.
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The most I do is I dolike some candles for medication, and
I do have I do something calledsprying. I take pictures through a clear
glass for refraction or on mirror forreflection, and I do see spirit picks.
I take your picks and I putit, you know, on my
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web page and let other people seethem. So when I explain to them
that it works. They can actuallysee the empirical evidence that it does work.
Laurten, what's your personal philosophy oryour belief system regarding psychic readings and
the spiritual realm in general? Well, the spirit world is real when you
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die. I don't know how ithappens. But when you die, you
do transcend to another level. Howit happens, I don't know. I
have asked the spirits, how doesit happen? How does it You've just
come out of your body? Howdoes it work? And I was told
it's not for me to know.Okay, I accept that I don't really
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get any psychic readings done to mebecause I have in the past, and
they're usually very incorrect. You know, I always get I see that you
either you're looking for psychic development,and I really, you know, I
see that you want answers because youdon't know how to find them. I'm
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like, really, so, soI guess you know, I guess you're
getting wires crossed with somebody else.You know. I don't tell them I'm
a psychic, so you know,you know, because you know, you
know, the usual scamming kind ofthing. So I just don't get any
readings and I don't give any readingsor anything like that. So if you
don't give readings, how do youuse your psychic gift. Well, people
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do call me up and they say, I think, you know, there's
a spirit in my house, andthey usually want to tell who they think
it is, and I usually tellthem not to because I like to walk
into a building or a dwelling anddo a cold reading. I don't want
any information. I want to talkto the spirit myself and find out what
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they say, who they are.And a lot of times people I hope
it's my grandmother. I hope it'smy dogs, you know, that sort
of thing, and that may influenceme by, you know, by leading
the spirit on, Oh your auntMinni. Right? Maybe not so I
just like to walk in and youshould just have my cell phone. I
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do have cameras, but I justusually walk in with my cell phone and
I turn it on record if Ifeel something, and obviously if I see
something, I just start taking picsand ask them to tell me who they
are and why they're here, orthey attached to the place, so they
attached to the people. I've gottenall kinds of people, people from the
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guides and cancers, suicide, motorcycleassance, you name it. So you're
not like the typical psychic who hasa telephone number that they give out or
they do readings on skype, zoomor any other modalities. You actually go
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to the place and do your psychicpsychic job there. Yes, And I'm
not in it for the money becauseI don't get paid. I've never ever
ever taken a dime for what Ido. Never. I feel like I
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am put here to help people,and I don't have a problem with getting
paid hed. I mean, ifyou're a copper firefighter, you're helping people,
you should be paid. But forme, it doesn't feel right.
It feels more business, see,you know, and I think that that
would we kind of play with myabilities. And I don't feel that the
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spirit will particularly wants me to getpaid. I mean, I've done well
enough without without having to be paid, and it's just kind of an interference.
Though. No, I don't doyou know, I don't do readings
or I don't you know, tellpeople, you know, I see your
area, you know, give metwenty bucks. So no, I don't.
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All right, So you go intoa house and you use your psychic
abilities to establish whether or not thereis in fact a spirit or something that
is causing paranormal activity in the home. You discover that you're one hundred percent
sure that's what it is, whatdo you do next, Well, it
depends on what their people want.I see, if a lot of times
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they say, oh, it's myit's my grandma. I'll take a pick
of the spirit and I'll show itto the people and they say, oh,
that's my grandma or that's my uncle, and they see that they're overjoyed
that if they're there, and thenI just don't do anything. I just
give them the information and if theywant to post it, they can post
it. If they want me topost it, uh to show other people
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I do that. I'd never askbecause I don't want them to feel pressured.
Most of the time they don't wantme to post it as private,
and I just leave. Now.If it's if it's somebody or an entity
that is a malevolent and I've I'vebeen told of you know, culture guisee
activity, or you know somebody sayget out or something, then what I
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do is I go over there andI like some white stage and I talk
to the spirit and I try toscare the hell out of it so that
it leads to the dwelling. AndI'm pretty good at that. How do
you how do you scare a spiritwhen a spirit is dead and they really
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have nothing to fear. Well,what I have found is that they have
a certain most of them are oldestspirits, or they have a certain image
of females, so that they expectme to be frightened or that, you
know. And what I do isI have the nobody talks boy talk better
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than me. I have a siltymouth, and I use the language that
would make your hair curl. Andthat usually scares the crap out of them
because they're not expecting that. Andthey and I tell them, I'll smudg
you out. And for some reason, and I don't know why, the
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idea of being mugs through a lotof spirits is really quite frightening. And
they leave. I've never had anyonecall me and say they're back. I
have They never gotten that? Wow. So having a poddy mouth and being
a lady at the same time comesin handy sometimes. Yes, I hope
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my grandmother isn't listening. Yeah,if she is, you'll find out later.
Yes, I guess I will.Lauren, please stand by you and
I have to take our first breakexplanation. Lauren Cornngold is my special guest
and her website is www dot getmy Spirit stream now dot com. Get
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my Spirit stream now dot com.And Lauren is also with the Paranormal Research
Investigatorship Society of Miami. And we'llboth be back on the other side of
this break as the excellent continues withhere' streli Rob McConnell from our broadcast center
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You never have one of those dayswhere you want to say something,
the brain goes says, all right, you turn right, but you end
up turning left. But that's whatjust happened with me. Our guest this
hour is Lowering Corn Gold and sheis with the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of
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Miami and her website is get mySpirit stream Now dot com. Is Miami
a very haunted place? Yeah,it is. It's not known for it
here in the States, places likeSouth Carolina and Massachusi. You know,
New England, the Civil Wars andthe Revolutionary work. But Miami actually is
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a pretty haunted place. We havea lot of old time mansions and hotels
that like the built North, thathave spirits in them. I think it's
haunted everywhere on this planet. Youknow, wherever there's a piece of land,
I think there's some spirits around butyes, Miami is is quite haunted.
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Tell us about the Paranormal Research InvestigativeSociety of Miami. Well, what
we do is like like you know, ghost hunting, typical ghost hunting group
I formed the group. Ours isa little bit different. I wanted to
have. I wanted there to bea certain rules. For instance, never
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post anything of a celebrity or somebodya friend without telling the family first.
You know, don't tell we're notin just to make a name for ourselves.
And some of my team members,you know, they didn't like that,
you know, they want to wellin school, let's post it.
But also we always have two peoplewith us, two people together in a
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room, so that there could neverbe any you know, accusation of fraud
and manipulation. We go into houses. Sometimes I walk right into the house
and I see something. Uh sometimesI don't whether I do or I don't.
We treat it as if we seenothing. We put up in for
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red cameras, both second cameras withquarters grids, all that kind of stuff,
even if I see something right there, because there's always something that I
miss and we want to record itfor the benefit of the people that are
having us come over and what wedo is unlike a lot of paranormal research
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group, we don't generally spend theentire night there. There seems to be
some belief that spirits come out moreat night. They do not. It's
just that it gives us an opportunityto use a lot of cool technology like
infra red and can't use during theday. So if you go there at
nine o'clock in the morning and there'sa spirit there, it's going to be
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there at nine o'clock in the morningor nine o'clock at night. So we
usually wrap it up within three orfour hours of getting there. We don't
spend There's nothing magical about nighttime.I was talking to a paranormal investigator and
I asked them, well, whydo you guys do this at night?
And he said, well, it'svery simple because we worked during the day.
Oh yes, yeah, a lotof us have you know, other
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jobs or real businesses. Yes,but some people think, oh, good
nighttime, you know, life outhere, they're all going to come out
now. Well, if they didn'tcome out when you were there for this,
you know, the three hours whenthe sun was above their rise,
and they're probably not going to comeout. Now. If they're there,
they're there. And if they're not, well they're not. Where has where
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in your experience has been the mosthaunted location that you and your team have
done an investigation? At my house? Your house, you're out? Yes,
my house? Yes? How weloaded the spirits? And where did
all these spirits come from? Well? I have a friend who is a
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psychic and we've been friends for aboutthirty years. And she said, you
know, you have a portal inyour house and I said, no,
I don't, I would feel it. She says, well, I don't
know what you're feeling, but youhave a portal in your house. So
I asked the spirits, you know, there's so many of you here.
I know it's not a portal,so what is it? And they said
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it's a portal. I said,oh it is. I said, okay,
that's what I was told. I'mamazed that I didn't, you know,
put that pick up on that.They said, well, you know,
maybe you have a little prejudice againstit, but there is a portal
here. And somebody referred to itlike like grand centistation. Some of them
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are just passing through like stragglers andthey have nothing to do with me,
and they just are passing on byand I just happened to see them or
take their pick or hear their voices, and they're not interested in me at
all. They're just walking on by. Other times it's angels or guy or
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my father. So it depends.But there are a lot of spirits here,
and there are a lot of portals, and wherever there's a portal,
there's going to be a bunch ofspirits, good and bad, passing through
it. So where does this portalportal come from? What is the destination
on the other side. I don'tknow. All I know is I've been
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fortunate enough to take pictures of whenthe portal is opened and there's light coming
out. So I guess when theysay going into the light, I guess
that's really true, because when there'sa birth of light, there seems to
be a birth of energy that Ifeel. And then you could see these
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spirits, you know, just streamingout and it's almost like a bus door
opening and everybody's coming out and thenthey're gone. But I don't know what.
I don't know what's on the otherside. I just know that the
light of the spirits and they comeand go. Now, the spirits that
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come and go, are they alwayspositive spirits or do you get negative spirits
demonic spirits as well? Yes?Hmm, how do you how do you
deal with the negative spirits or thedemonic spirits? Party? Now contes?
Here we go. You must havebeen a sailor in a previous life,
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right, except I have no tattoos, so I don't know, but you're
probably right something like that, becausethat usually takes care of it. But
you know, what I have foundis that a lot of the spirits that
I have, I haven't had toomany negative encounters, but those that I
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have had, they're not really evil. They're mostly angry, and they're angry
because some of them are murder victims. Some of them never got justice.
You know, I had one guytell me my pillar is still walking work.
I'm really sorry about that, butit isn't going to be any good
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hanging on to resentment. So alot of times what we proceded being evil
is more like it's they're angry.I can understand that. So do you
try and get them to go tothe light. Well, I used to
say, go into the light.There's peace and love and the light and
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I once had a guy say tome, I know I lived here,
I'm just out out and about,and he was kind of had a negative
attitude. He says, I'm notstuck, if that's what you mean,
So why do you keep trying tosend me to a place that I've been
through a hundred times. We're outbecause we want to be out, not
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because they're stuck. So I stoppedsaying go into the light, find peace
and love and the light that theydon't always want to be in the light.
What inspired you, Lauren to beto pursue a career as a as
a professional paranormal investigator. Well,I guess I was always because of my
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you know, psychic abilities that thisyou would say, I was always interested
in that, And when I wasa little girl, my father said to
me, look, I don't knowtoo much about it, but I know
this. You'd be well advised notto tell too many people. And I
did not understand that, And nowlater on I did understand it, because
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you didn't want people to think youwere a nut, but as I knew
that they were real, and Iwanted other people to question, you know,
what is their life beyond this?What is it? What do they
look like is it intelligent? Ghostwas as energy? So I wanted to
answer some of those questions for myselfbecause I didn't know, and I wanted
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to sell other people that it wasreal, and to mostly to give comfort
because I've had people say to me, thank you so much. I'm at
peace now. Because I had alady from the Philippines who's her big Her
big brother was murdered and she wantedto know if he was in the light,
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and I said, don't tell meanything about him. I said,
all I can tell you is thathe's standing in front of me and he's
saying to me, cool you,cool you. And she started to cry
and I said, well what doesthat mean? She goes, he's saying
Coolia, Coolia. That means bigbrother. And the Philippine lank was and
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I said, oh my god.Okay, Well, so it gave her
a sense of peace that can knowthat he was around and that he and
that her mother had just passed awayand that she was with him. Would
you say that the experiences that youshare with the people who you help,
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just like this Filipino lady, arein some form or fashion very spiritual.
And I don't you know. Imean, you're doing something good your ero.
Let's say somebody who works and walkson the right side of the light.
How does that make you feel?It makes me feel good because most
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people feel a sense of relief.But I understand that this isn't for everyone.
I actually, you know, Ihad a dog sitting service and one
of my clients said to me,look, I know you're a psychist.
I know you see and hear things. And she said, if you ever
see anything in my house, don'ttell me. I don't want to know
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that stuff breaks me out. AndI said, okay, and there were
things in her house, but Ikept my mouth cut. It's not for
everyone. Not everybody wants to know. Some people get, you know,
the hebdbs about it, So Iget it. We've got about thirty seconds
before I have to go for mynext break, Lauren. Do people have
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anything to physically fear from the spirits? Not really? Uh. People talked
about being touched or pushed. Imean, I've never seen that outside of
the movie. But I mean I'vebeen I've had a light touch right on
my body, but I've never hadanybody, you know, throw me across
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the room. I mean I'm notgonna I won't say it doesn't happen because
I have no empirical evidence to precludeit from happening. But I don't I
would say I wouldn't worry too muchabout it. That's good enough for me.
If you say it, it's goodenough for me. Well, Harden
stand by you and I have totake our second break and explanation. Lauren
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corn Gold is our special guest,and we're going to bet on the other
side of like I said, ofthis very short break as we continue here
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listeners and viewers of the worldwide Exhalationa very merry Christmas and a healthy,
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I'm rob Occonnell. We're coming toyou on a Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Laurencorn Goold is my special guest at this
hour, and Lauren is in Miami, Florida. Lauren, has there ever
been a paranormal investigation that you've walkedin and felt so much negativity that you
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just want to turn around and walkaway. No, not from spirits,
but from the people that are livingthere. Really, Yes, I did
go against some advice from your friendof mine to a woman who as soon
as I walked into her house,she wanted to preach to me whatever her
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particular religion was and the belief systemthat whatever I find is going to be
from the devil. I said,well, then why am I here?
I mean, I'm here as aninvestigator, that's the operative word. You're
I'm investigating. If you only havea belief system in place that you won't
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accept evidence, then I really couldn'tbe here. So now I do a
much better job about vetting people becausesome people are very very negative, or
they have three conceived ideas. Iknow it's my dead ex husband, or
how do you know that? Ijust know it well, you know you
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be a little open minded. No, okay, good bye, But no,
I've never had a spiritual I've comewalking to a place where there was
a lot of heavy energy. Butthat's the job, you know. You
go in and you find out howdo you and your team protect yourselves from
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all this negative energy that you're you'redealing with during a paranormal investigation, and
how do you make sure you don'tbring it home with you? I have
brought it home. I have.Uh, I've actually was I've brought negative
spirit home and uh, you know, pot it out. I've also done.
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I am what called is a remotemedium. In other words, sometimes
I'll just stay at home and aperson will call me and I can you
know, sense what's going on overthere at home? And one there there
was one time there was a spirit. His name was Cardell. He was
at her house and then he endedup at my house trying to terrorize me,
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and you know I got rid ofhim with my mouth and my I
actually recorded discussion. I do havethe recording, and one of a couple
of my angels, my guides,came and said, don't worry, worry
about him, we'll take care ofhim. And then about a half hour
later he came back and I said, you again, what are you doing
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here? He said, your yourguide told me I had to come back
and apologize or they were going tostick me in hell. I said,
oh, well you probably belong there, you know, so I guess there
is some sort of punishment. Youknow. On the other side, how
do you deal between the potential paranormalactivity and natural explanations? Well, we
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What I tried to do is ifI mean, there's always fluctuations and energy,
you can hear You could hear something. It could be the wind and
it sounds like a voice, andit could be either either way. So
I try to run it through certainprograms like waves had and try to remove
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some of the things. Sometimes there'sjust iffy and if it's if he you
know, then you be you know, you be honest with the people.
Listen. You know, we're notreally sure we caught a voice. It
maybe or it may not. Someof them are intelligent. Like when my
father comes, I record him andhe's always talking to me about investments,
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so that's not the wind or youknow, natural phenomenon. You know,
he's talking about real estate. Sohave you ever encountered skeptics who have actually
challenged your findings? And if so, how do you deal with them?
Well? I haven't had people reallychallenge my finding, but I have had
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people say, I see what you'reshowing me, but my explanation is different.
And then they usually start quoting somereligious book that it's it is spiritual
in nature, but I'm being ledastray by forces of the darkness, you
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know, that kind of just ButI've never really had anybody look at it
and say it's not there. Ijust had people say, you don't understand
what you're doing. You know,you think it's you know, they're really
demons in disguise, or you know, I mean I get that once in
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a while, mostly on Facebook.How about EVPs? How do you explain
them? You know, for thelisteners out there who have no idea what
an EVP is. A EVP isan electronic voice phenomenon where paranormal investigator will
use a digital or analog recording device. Ask a question, pause, wait
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a few moments and then ask anotherquestion. Now, the answers or the
replies from the spirits can only beheard when the recording is played back.
Now, how do we explain thatwe can't hear the answer when it's given,
but later on there it is onthe recording device. You know,
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I don't know that, but youknow, sometimes I do hear it.
And then I asked the teammate ormyself, I checked back the seat if
what I heard was at that timewhat was recorded. But very you're right,
very often we don't hear it,you know. First you know,
I've asked sir, it's I said, you know, how do you make
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it? How do you speak it? All? You have the local cords?
How do you even show yourself?You don't have a body. And
what I was told is that theyhave. They manipulate energy and they manipulate
light to form either a sound wayor a visual manifestation of themselves. I
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said, well, then why can'twhy can't nom the psychics? Why can't
I hear you all the time?And they said, well, because the
energy is in the place that youare. There's all there's often environmental phenomenon
that prevents us from you know,communicating with you, and we are we
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are really reflecting ourselves at a veryvery low frequency. So that's been my
experience. So it may be below you know, one hundred hearts or
you know, whatever it is thatwe can't hear it, But every once
in a while I'll hear a reallygood, like just almost a total conversation.
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So I have to presume that thereare environmental factors or that you know,
enhance it or you know, removeit. I would imagine that cell
phones and Wi Fi transmissions really screwup the attempt of investigators when it came
to establishing evidence that the paranormal isreal. Well, my cell phones have
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always been my friend, because that'sreally all that I use. I just
turn it on and I just sitthere. And somebody said to me,
and it may be true. AndI never asked the spirit I forget to
ask. They said, well,did it never occur to you that maybe
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they're attracted to you? So that'swhy you have good luck hearing them,
And because I do seem to geta lot of stuff that other paranormal investigators
don't get in abundance. So Isaid, well, that's that's a good
I never thought of that, Butthat's a good Maybe I'm a spirit magnet
or something, and there's so manyof them that somebody's down to be heard.
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You know, if you have ahundred people in a room, you're
going to hear at least two people. So I said, yeah, you
know, I got to ask aboutthat. That's a good question. Maybe
there are certain people that you're attractedto, or certain kinds of spirits.
Maybe they go, you know,like you mind meld you, whatever your
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wavelength is, they natch you there. Not all of them can do that.
Well, I know why your cellphone likes you because your cell phone
has experienced firsthand how your potty mouthaffects, you know, spirits and other
you know, other members of theother side, and it doesn't want to
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it doesn't want to be on yourbad side. So that's why it's nice
to you. But yeah, theyprobably have gotten my name around. Something
that I've been told by many paranormalinvestigators is that a lot of these spirits
don't know they're dead. And youand I were talking about how angry or
frustrated they are, and that thisis one of the major causes they don't
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know why people can see them theydon't know why people can't hear them.
They don't know why these why they'rebeing neglected. It's because they don't know
they're dead. What's your opinion onthat. I've never had that experience.
I came in No, not thatI remember. I believed that because you
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know, you'd see people, you'dhear other paranormal investigators of psychics say they
see people walking around in period clothing, so they must think that they're back
in the eighteenth century or you know, whatever it is. But I have
asked them, I've seen people thatlook like, you know, they're wearing
you know, American revolutionary clothing orsomething, And I say, you know,
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you do realize the American Revolution isover, and you know we're death
buddies that England. Now you doknow that? And well, of course
I know that you know at thattime to say, yes, it's twenty
eighteen. Oh you're aware of thepassage of time. Why do you look
this way? And they said,because this is who I am and this
is the most exciting time of mylife. I've been told that I have
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never melt met anyone who says,well I am waiting, you know,
you know, I mean they couldsee the TV, they can see the
electricity, they can they know somethingis going on. I've never I've never
talked to anybody who said, whatdo you mean, you know Abraham Lincoln
was just assassinated, you know,eighteen sixty five or whatever. I mean,
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I've never I've never had that experience. How do you figure that a
ghost or a spirit that is energycan wear period clothing when clothing doesn't have
any energy. Well, they're notwearing the clothing wearing I mean they're like,
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Okay, if you're looking at aspirit and this man or woman manifests
their faith and you can see theface, they can manisfess what the clothing
look like at the time. It'sjust it's just not part of their skin.
They're able to form, like theycan form their face or their arms,
they can form the clothes. Idon't know how they know. I
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tend to think it's instinctual because Idon't think they have a big clothing door
on the other side. He can, you know, dressing you up.
So I think it's something that youinnately do. Because when my mother passed
away, all right, we're goingto have to hold you off here because
we do have to take our finalbreak, so please stand by. Lauren
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Cornold is our special guest exonation,and we're talking about spirits, psychics,
paranormal investigations and much more. AndMelaurna and I will be back on the
other side of this break as wecontinue hearing the X Zone from our broadcast
center and studios in Saint Catharine's,Ontario, Canada, right here on Classic
twelve twenty and streamed around the worldon Classic twelve twenty. Sea Bye bye
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bye by Bak enough of b bye. Every time I look to loving,
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I still love and money just getby bumble from you. I druk whay
a brave love you are even todayand welcome back everyone. This is the
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excellent. I'm Rob McConnell and you'relistening to us on Classic twelve twenty or
online at www dot Classic twelve twentydot CA. Lorden Cornwold is our special
guest and Louren. If somebody listeningto us tonight is inspired and motivated by
by our conversation and they too wantto become a paranormal investigator, what should
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they do? How would they goabout it? Well, the first thing
that they should do is read.Keep an open mind. Don't think you
know everything. I still know verylittle in comparison to what I hope to
learn a lot of times that youknow, I know my experience when I
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really started investigating, I got.I had a lot of surprises, a
lot of old notions. I hadto put aside the prejudices that I did
realize I had. So I wouldtell that person to watch other or normal
investigators, get a mentor even ifit's online, read the books all that.
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Get as much information as you canso that you do it right and
go slowly. There's no spirits aren'tgoing anywhere. You don't have to invest
in fat millions of dollars or onehundreds of dollars even to capture spirit energies,
So you know, don't run outand buy you know, seven hundred
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dollars cameras. You don't need that. You need a cell phone, you
need a flashlight, you need adigital audio recorder or even even one with
a little tape in it, andpatience, and that's all you need.
What are some of the misconceptions aboutparanormal investigation that that you'd like to dispel
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tonight, Well, first of all, is the one that we spoke of
earlier, that that spirits have atendency to come out at night. Right,
that that's not true. A lotof my best investigation has been during
the day. Also, that youdon't that you have to have certain kinds
of equipment. You don't have tohave certain kinds of equipment. You don't
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have to have powerful recorders and thingslike that, because you know, if
the cell phone can pick it up, that that's really all that you need.
And also that the biggest thing thatinvestigators, I think make a mistake
is that there's two impatience. TheyMy way is to turn on a recorder,
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let the recorder run for twenty secondsat least before you even open your
mouth, and then ask one questionand shut up and give them thirty seconds
to answer, and then ask another. Investigators spend a lot of time talking
instead of listening. Listen, listen, listen, and you will be successful
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in this. What are the ethicalguidelines or principles that you follow in your
paranormal investigations that you'd like to sharewith the listeners. Well, first of
all, you have to you haveto analyze yourself why are you in this?
Are you in it because you wantto keep knowledge and learn and contact
the other side, or you wantto make a name for yourself, or
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you want to feel cool. Sothe ghosts, your spirit, whatever you
want to call it, always comesfirst. Secondly, the people that you're
that own the home or the buildingsalways come second. In other words,
you always have to consider their feelings. Do not ever put anything on the
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internet. Do not talk about it. It's almost like you're like a confessor.
Keep it private unless the person thatyou're working with, or the homeowner
or whatever it tells you to releaseit. Stop don't. You're not in
it for you. You're just aconduit between the other side, the spirit
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world, and those of us thatare still living. That's all you are.
And remember that that you are theleast important person in the whole procedures.
Have you ever collaborated with any otherparanormal investigation groups and how does that
work? Not with groups, butI did have a friend who did it
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herself, and she's from Atlanta,and we used to collaborate together a little
bit, and then the pandemic hitand everything kind of you know, stop,
and you know, we just kindof drifted apart. And I have
I have worked with other paranormal investigators. What I have not done and will
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not do, is work with anypsychic, because when I go in as
a paranormal investigator, I don't goin as a psychic. I go in
as an investigator. Like I saidearlier, if I walk into a house
and I see a spirit, Iwill of course take out my equipments,
but I still put up all thestuff as if I don't see them because
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I am an investigator. They didn'tcall for a psychic. They called for
an investigator, so they're kind ofI kind of wear two hats. I
don't really I mean, I havean advantage because I'm a psychic, but
I don't count on that. Icount on the evidence that it is caught
on the cameras and the recording.What about these TV shows that are up
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there, the different ghost shows.It seems that a lot of things happen
in a very short period of timeon their shows, and yet is there's
never anything that is that is evidence. What's your take on the shows?
Well, yeah, you know,it is funny because you know, you
spend more time not getting anything thangetting it, you know what I mean.
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It's sort of like if somebody's thereand they want to talk to you,
you're probably gonna hear from them thefirst fifteen minutes. If they're not
going to talk to you in fifteenminutes or a half hour, they're probably
you have nothing to say or there'snothing there. Yes, I've always wanted
you know, there probably is alot of times with these shows that they
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don't get anything. You just don't. You know, they don't air that
because you know it's foreign, right, so they air that. They they
air the stuff where things are alittle bit active, you know, But
even then you got to take itwith a grain of salt because you don't
know if they're manipulating it. Iwould say they're not, because I think
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a lot of them have the samerules that you never leave people alone.
There's always two investigators in a roomat the same time, and there are
some that are more reliable than others. I mean, now on x formerly
Twitter, there's nothing, there's nothingbut ghost hunters. You know, if
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somebody picks up a camera and says, oh, hey, I'm going to
go to seven to eleven and doit ghost hunting, you can't do that.
I mean, you can do it, but I mean you've got to
take it with a brain of salt, and you really have to do research
and not just the enthusiastics, butbut really be professional. A lot of
these shows and individual groups and investigatorslove going to prisons, bars, hospitals
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where there has been countless reports ofparanormal activity, ghosts and spirits. Why
would the ghosts and spirits remain ina place that has been turned into a
tourism location. Yeah, you know, it's like when you go to the
Lizzie Bourdon Now, Lisey Board mayshow up if she detached to the building
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or she wants to communicate. Butit's like graveyards. Graveyards are the most
spirits of devoid places on Earth.There's just a bunch of bodies there.
There really aren't any spirits hanging aroundunless they unless they come to see you.
And I went to a funeral threemonths ago and I saw two or
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three spirits. Now, it wasvery unusual because I usually don't see anything
at those kinds of functions because there'snobody there. Maybe when these people go,
when they's when these ghosts on thesgo to these places, the spirits
or they're not. I don't thinkthey're trapped, and I don't think they
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want to be there, but Ithink they want to be seen. They
want someone to maybe acknowledge them,so they go to where where they're going.
So you know, if I'm ifI'm motivated to go to an abandoned
prison somewhere and I see spirits,and maybe because they want me, they
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want to be seen by somebody,and they know that we're there to do
that, so they'll show up.I don't think they reside here because I
think we go back a day laterand not find anything. A lot of
investigators also use photographs of orbs asevidence of spirits, that these orbs are
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actually spirits. So what are youWhat are your thoughts and comments about orbs?
That are the photographs of orbs thatare taken. They they can be
spirit, they can also be dust. So what I look for is sometimes
I do. What I do isI look for if I if I if
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I see an orb. I've caughtsome orbs on my ring camera and other
cameras. I look for other phenomenonat the same time, Like I heard
my father's voice in the living roomand I turned I didn't so I was
lady didn't want to get out ofbed. So I turned on the speaker
in the microphone. I said,he's there, and it was mean,
Daddy, it's mean. And thenwhen I reviewed everything, I saw a
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couple of orbs flying by. Sothen that seems more credible to me,
But it could, you know.And I also looked a lot of these
orbs that are really spiritual in theirquality have a face. I look for
that. That's also helpful because otherthan that, they could be spiritual.
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But you really don't know, becauseit could be a piece of best flying
by. I asked a paranormal investigatorthe other night why morgs are not not
only morgs, but funeral parlors arenot getting any reports of hauntings or ghost
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activity. Any ideas why? Yeah, they're not there when I was when
I was a young lady. Sowe're talking three years ago. Okay,
right, thank you very much.I wasn't true what field of science I
wanted to go in. So Iwent and I decided to do a little
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stuff in the morgue. I didn'tsee anybody. I mean, I saw
bodies, but I didn't see anyspirit. A spirit may be attached to
their physical being and be either oragain, they want to be seen and
they maybe they know you're a psychicfor some reason, and they show up.
But usually the attachment to the mortalbody is just right after they died
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and then they kind of, youknow, hover a little bit and then
they go on. So these peoplehad donated their body to science, so
they were in refrigerator for a longtime. There was really no attachment emotionally
to the body, so they weren'tthere for that. So, you know,
I didn't see anybody. I didnot see any And I have a
friend who have to works in ain a funeral home, and I said,
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do you ever feel anything? Doyou ever see anything? And creepy
you know, stuff you like?No? None? Wow, Lauren,
Lauren, the time has come whenI must say so long to you,
my dear friend. First of all, thank you so much for taking time
out of your busy schedule to joinus here tonight on the x Zone,
and you know, for sharing yourexperience and your knowledge with the members of
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the x O Nation who listened tous right here on Classic twelve twenty.
So thank you very much, andlisten to you and your family and your
friends and your team. The verybest of the season to you both and
all, and I look forward tospeaking to you in the new year.
Happy New Year, okay, HappyNew Year, married Christmas Avionica, all
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that stuff, all right, Lauren, take care of yourself. God bless
you. And that's it for tonight, x Oonation. I'll be back tomorrow
night as once again we cross thetime space continuum to this place that I
call the X Zone. And we'recoming to you from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario,Canada on Classic twelve twenty and around the
world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. So until next we meet here in
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the X Zone. Always remember Xzonationto keep your eyes to the sky and
your heart to the light. I'mRob McConnell. Good night everyone,
All right, this is Paul Blackmoreat c KBG one on seven point three
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a place where fact is fiction andfiction is reality. Now here's your host,
Rob McConnell to in that thing bringingthe heart into a million pieces like
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you always do, still needs tobe true in about the Body and good
evening one and online. Welcome backto the X Zone. I am Rob
(01:33):
McConnell, and for the next hour, i'm your host and your guidance.
Together we cross the time space continuumto this place that I call the xxone.
It's a place where people dare tobelieve and dare to be heard.
It's a place where fact is fictionand fiction is reality. And the X
Zone comes to you from our broadcastcenter and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario,
Canada, on your hometown radio Classictwelve twenty and streaming around the world
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and into the great Beyond on Classictwelve twenty CA. My guest this hour
exphonation is a young lady that I'vehad the pleasure of talking to a number
of times. Her name is Laurencorn Gold and she is in Miami,
Florida, and Karen, welcome back, Lauren, I'm sorry, welcome back
to the X Zone. Well,thank you once again for having me.
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It's my pleasure, Laurden. Whydon't you tell our listeners a little bit
about yourself. Well, I wasborn in Miami, and to the point,
I am a psychic medium. Istarted seeing spirits when I was about
jevin six as far maybe before,I don't remember, and I've been seeing
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them and marring them every since.Okay, let's go back to the very
first time that you can remember usingyour psychic abilities. When did you When
did that happen? Well, thefirst time I remember, I was very
sick. I used to get whatthey used to call the crew, and
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my mother used to put me intobed with these wet sheets over me,
and I was very sick. Iwas coughing. I was probably about six
or seven, and all of asudden I saw these shadows outside of the
seat walking around me. And thenall of a sudden, this woman appeared
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in front of my feet, andshe had all this wonderful light coming from
her. It did look like radiatinglight. It sort of looked like the
photosphere of the sun, with thesebig pixels of light go up and down.
And she looked at me and Icould tell that she was not like
me, solid, but she wassmiling, and she said to me,
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honey, don't worry, You're goingto be just fine. And then she
was gone, and so were theothers that I never knew where the others
were behind the seat, but thoseshadow people or whatever you want to call
them, they were also gone.And I just, you know, it
felt strange but yet so natural,like I don't know, like super supposed
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to be there. What type ofpsychic abilities do you possess, Laura,
And how do you manifest them?How do you get them to kick in?
Well? I see and hear ofspirits. I don't really do anything
to manifest them. I kind ofjust walk into a room and I either
see something or I hear something.Although I do medicate, and when after
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a medication period of about twenty minutes, I feel more excute, I feel
more aware, and sometimes the voicesare more pronounced and I can see them
that's when I grab my camera andtake your pick or take an audio so
that people don't think I'm schizophrenic.So what type of different methods or tools
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do you use when doing your psychicgreetings? Do you use tarot cards,
crystals? Do you use astrology?How do you do it? No?
I do have tarot cards and getA friend of mine suggested that I learned
the tarrot and I was I'm terribleat it. I had to write on
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the cards what you know what?Like the death card, for instance,
means chain, you know the youknow the sun? What does this mean?
So you know when you have todo that. That's not really your
forte and just wasn't working out.So I gave that up and I wasn't
really getting anything from it. SoI don't really use crystals or or anything.
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The most I do is I dolike some candles for medication, and
I do have I do something calledsprying. I take pictures through a clear
glass for refraction or on mirror forreflection, and I do see spirit picks.
I take your picks and I putit, you know, on my
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web page and let other people seethem. So when I explain to them
that it works. They can actuallysee the empirical evidence that it does work.
Laurten, what's your personal philosophy oryour belief system regarding psychic readings and
the spiritual realm in general? Well, the spirit world is real when you
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die. I don't know how ithappens. But when you die, you
do transcend to another level. Howit happens, I don't know. I
have asked the spirits, how doesit happen? How does it You've just
come out of your body? Howdoes it work? And I was told
it's not for me to know.Okay, I accept that I don't really
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get any psychic readings done to mebecause I have in the past, and
they're usually very incorrect. You know, I always get I see that you
either you're looking for psychic development,and I really, you know, I
see that you want answers because youdon't know how to find them. I'm
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like, really, so, soI guess you know, I guess you're
getting wires crossed with somebody else.You know. I don't tell them I'm
a psychic, so you know,you know, because you know, you
know, the usual scamming kind ofthing. So I just don't get any
readings and I don't give any readingsor anything like that. So if you
don't give readings, how do youuse your psychic gift. Well, people
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do call me up and they say, I think, you know, there's
a spirit in my house, andthey usually want to tell who they think
it is, and I usually tellthem not to because I like to walk
into a building or a dwelling anddo a cold reading. I don't want
any information. I want to talkto the spirit myself and find out what
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they say, who they are.And a lot of times people I hope
it's my grandmother. I hope it'smy dogs, you know, that sort
of thing, and that may influenceme by, you know, by leading
the spirit on, Oh your auntMinni. Right? Maybe not so I
just like to walk in and youshould just have my cell phone. I
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do have cameras, but I justusually walk in with my cell phone and
I turn it on record if Ifeel something, and obviously if I see
something, I just start taking picsand ask them to tell me who they
are and why they're here, orthey attached to the place, so they
attached to the people. I've gottenall kinds of people, people from the
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guides and cancers, suicide, motorcycleassance, you name it. So you're
not like the typical psychic who hasa telephone number that they give out or
they do readings on skype, zoomor any other modalities. You actually go
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to the place and do your psychicpsychic job there. Yes, And I'm
not in it for the money becauseI don't get paid. I've never ever
ever taken a dime for what Ido. Never. I feel like I
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am put here to help people,and I don't have a problem with getting
paid hed. I mean, ifyou're a copper firefighter, you're helping people,
you should be paid. But forme, it doesn't feel right.
It feels more business, see,you know, and I think that that
would we kind of play with myabilities. And I don't feel that the
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spirit will particularly wants me to getpaid. I mean, I've done well
enough without without having to be paid, and it's just kind of an interference.
Though. No, I don't doyou know, I don't do readings
or I don't you know, tellpeople, you know, I see your
area, you know, give metwenty bucks. So no, I don't.
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All right, So you go intoa house and you use your psychic
abilities to establish whether or not thereis in fact a spirit or something that
is causing paranormal activity in the home. You discover that you're one hundred percent
sure that's what it is, whatdo you do next, Well, it
depends on what their people want.I see, if a lot of times
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they say, oh, it's myit's my grandma. I'll take a pick
of the spirit and I'll show itto the people and they say, oh,
that's my grandma or that's my uncle, and they see that they're overjoyed
that if they're there, and thenI just don't do anything. I just
give them the information and if theywant to post it, they can post
it. If they want me topost it, uh to show other people
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I do that. I'd never askbecause I don't want them to feel pressured.
Most of the time they don't wantme to post it as private,
and I just leave. Now.If it's if it's somebody or an entity
that is a malevolent and I've I'vebeen told of you know, culture guisee
activity, or you know somebody sayget out or something, then what I
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do is I go over there andI like some white stage and I talk
to the spirit and I try toscare the hell out of it so that
it leads to the dwelling. AndI'm pretty good at that. How do
you how do you scare a spiritwhen a spirit is dead and they really
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have nothing to fear. Well,what I have found is that they have
a certain most of them are oldestspirits, or they have a certain image
of females, so that they expectme to be frightened or that, you
know. And what I do isI have the nobody talks boy talk better
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than me. I have a siltymouth, and I use the language that
would make your hair curl. Andthat usually scares the crap out of them
because they're not expecting that. Andthey and I tell them, I'll smudg
you out. And for some reason, and I don't know why, the
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idea of being mugs through a lotof spirits is really quite frightening. And
they leave. I've never had anyonecall me and say they're back. I
have They never gotten that? Wow. So having a poddy mouth and being
a lady at the same time comesin handy sometimes. Yes, I hope
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my grandmother isn't listening. Yeah,if she is, you'll find out later.
Yes, I guess I will.Lauren, please stand by you and
I have to take our first breakexplanation. Lauren Cornngold is my special guest
and her website is www dot getmy Spirit stream now dot com. Get
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my Spirit stream now dot com.And Lauren is also with the Paranormal Research
Investigatorship Society of Miami. And we'llboth be back on the other side of
this break as the excellent continues withhere' streli Rob McConnell from our broadcast center
and studios in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, right here on your hometown
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You never have one of those dayswhere you want to say something,
the brain goes says, all right, you turn right, but you end
up turning left. But that's whatjust happened with me. Our guest this
hour is Lowering Corn Gold and sheis with the Paranormal Research Investigative Society of
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Miami and her website is get mySpirit stream Now dot com. Is Miami
a very haunted place? Yeah,it is. It's not known for it
here in the States, places likeSouth Carolina and Massachusi. You know,
New England, the Civil Wars andthe Revolutionary work. But Miami actually is
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a pretty haunted place. We havea lot of old time mansions and hotels
that like the built North, thathave spirits in them. I think it's
haunted everywhere on this planet. Youknow, wherever there's a piece of land,
I think there's some spirits around butyes, Miami is is quite haunted.
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Tell us about the Paranormal Research InvestigativeSociety of Miami. Well, what
we do is like like you know, ghost hunting, typical ghost hunting group
I formed the group. Ours isa little bit different. I wanted to
have. I wanted there to bea certain rules. For instance, never
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post anything of a celebrity or somebodya friend without telling the family first.
You know, don't tell we're notin just to make a name for ourselves.
And some of my team members,you know, they didn't like that,
you know, they want to wellin school, let's post it.
But also we always have two peoplewith us, two people together in a
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room, so that there could neverbe any you know, accusation of fraud
and manipulation. We go into houses. Sometimes I walk right into the house
and I see something. Uh sometimesI don't whether I do or I don't.
We treat it as if we seenothing. We put up in for
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red cameras, both second cameras withquarters grids, all that kind of stuff,
even if I see something right there, because there's always something that I
miss and we want to record itfor the benefit of the people that are
having us come over and what wedo is unlike a lot of paranormal research
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group, we don't generally spend theentire night there. There seems to be
some belief that spirits come out moreat night. They do not. It's
just that it gives us an opportunityto use a lot of cool technology like
infra red and can't use during theday. So if you go there at
nine o'clock in the morning and there'sa spirit there, it's going to be
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there at nine o'clock in the morningor nine o'clock at night. So we
usually wrap it up within three orfour hours of getting there. We don't
spend There's nothing magical about nighttime.I was talking to a paranormal investigator and
I asked them, well, whydo you guys do this at night?
And he said, well, it'svery simple because we worked during the day.
Oh yes, yeah, a lotof us have you know, other
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jobs or real businesses. Yes,but some people think, oh, good
nighttime, you know, life outhere, they're all going to come out
now. Well, if they didn'tcome out when you were there for this,
you know, the three hours whenthe sun was above their rise,
and they're probably not going to comeout. Now. If they're there,
they're there. And if they're not, well they're not. Where has where
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in your experience has been the mosthaunted location that you and your team have
done an investigation? At my house? Your house, you're out? Yes,
my house? Yes? How weloaded the spirits? And where did
all these spirits come from? Well? I have a friend who is a
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psychic and we've been friends for aboutthirty years. And she said, you
know, you have a portal inyour house and I said, no,
I don't, I would feel it. She says, well, I don't
know what you're feeling, but youhave a portal in your house. So
I asked the spirits, you know, there's so many of you here.
I know it's not a portal,so what is it? And they said
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it's a portal. I said,oh it is. I said, okay,
that's what I was told. I'mamazed that I didn't, you know,
put that pick up on that.They said, well, you know,
maybe you have a little prejudice againstit, but there is a portal
here. And somebody referred to itlike like grand centistation. Some of them
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are just passing through like stragglers andthey have nothing to do with me,
and they just are passing on byand I just happened to see them or
take their pick or hear their voices, and they're not interested in me at
all. They're just walking on by. Other times it's angels or guy or
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my father. So it depends.But there are a lot of spirits here,
and there are a lot of portals, and wherever there's a portal,
there's going to be a bunch ofspirits, good and bad, passing through
it. So where does this portalportal come from? What is the destination
on the other side. I don'tknow. All I know is I've been
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fortunate enough to take pictures of whenthe portal is opened and there's light coming
out. So I guess when theysay going into the light, I guess
that's really true, because when there'sa birth of light, there seems to
be a birth of energy that Ifeel. And then you could see these
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spirits, you know, just streamingout and it's almost like a bus door
opening and everybody's coming out and thenthey're gone. But I don't know what.
I don't know what's on the otherside. I just know that the
light of the spirits and they comeand go. Now, the spirits that
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come and go, are they alwayspositive spirits or do you get negative spirits
demonic spirits as well? Yes?Hmm, how do you how do you
deal with the negative spirits or thedemonic spirits? Party? Now contes?
Here we go. You must havebeen a sailor in a previous life,
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right, except I have no tattoos, so I don't know, but you're
probably right something like that, becausethat usually takes care of it. But
you know, what I have foundis that a lot of the spirits that
I have, I haven't had toomany negative encounters, but those that I
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have had, they're not really evil. They're mostly angry, and they're angry
because some of them are murder victims. Some of them never got justice.
You know, I had one guytell me my pillar is still walking work.
I'm really sorry about that, butit isn't going to be any good
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hanging on to resentment. So alot of times what we proceded being evil
is more like it's they're angry.I can understand that. So do you
try and get them to go tothe light. Well, I used to
say, go into the light.There's peace and love and the light and
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I once had a guy say tome, I know I lived here,
I'm just out out and about,and he was kind of had a negative
attitude. He says, I'm notstuck, if that's what you mean,
So why do you keep trying tosend me to a place that I've been
through a hundred times. We're outbecause we want to be out, not
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because they're stuck. So I stoppedsaying go into the light, find peace
and love and the light that theydon't always want to be in the light.
What inspired you, Lauren to beto pursue a career as a as
a professional paranormal investigator. Well,I guess I was always because of my
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you know, psychic abilities that thisyou would say, I was always interested
in that, And when I wasa little girl, my father said to
me, look, I don't knowtoo much about it, but I know
this. You'd be well advised notto tell too many people. And I
did not understand that, And nowlater on I did understand it, because
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you didn't want people to think youwere a nut, but as I knew
that they were real, and Iwanted other people to question, you know,
what is their life beyond this?What is it? What do they
look like is it intelligent? Ghostwas as energy? So I wanted to
answer some of those questions for myselfbecause I didn't know, and I wanted
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to sell other people that it wasreal, and to mostly to give comfort
because I've had people say to me, thank you so much. I'm at
peace now. Because I had alady from the Philippines who's her big Her
big brother was murdered and she wantedto know if he was in the light,
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and I said, don't tell meanything about him. I said,
all I can tell you is thathe's standing in front of me and he's
saying to me, cool you,cool you. And she started to cry
and I said, well what doesthat mean? She goes, he's saying
Coolia, Coolia. That means bigbrother. And the Philippine lank was and
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I said, oh my god.Okay, Well, so it gave her
a sense of peace that can knowthat he was around and that he and
that her mother had just passed awayand that she was with him. Would
you say that the experiences that youshare with the people who you help,
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just like this Filipino lady, arein some form or fashion very spiritual.
And I don't you know. Imean, you're doing something good your ero.
Let's say somebody who works and walkson the right side of the light.
How does that make you feel?It makes me feel good because most
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people feel a sense of relief.But I understand that this isn't for everyone.
I actually, you know, Ihad a dog sitting service and one
of my clients said to me,look, I know you're a psychist.
I know you see and hear things. And she said, if you ever
see anything in my house, don'ttell me. I don't want to know
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that stuff breaks me out. AndI said, okay, and there were
things in her house, but Ikept my mouth cut. It's not for
everyone. Not everybody wants to know. Some people get, you know,
the hebdbs about it, So Iget it. We've got about thirty seconds
before I have to go for mynext break, Lauren. Do people have
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anything to physically fear from the spirits? Not really? Uh. People talked
about being touched or pushed. Imean, I've never seen that outside of
the movie. But I mean I'vebeen I've had a light touch right on
my body, but I've never hadanybody, you know, throw me across
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the room. I mean I'm notgonna I won't say it doesn't happen because
I have no empirical evidence to precludeit from happening. But I don't I
would say I wouldn't worry too muchabout it. That's good enough for me.
If you say it, it's goodenough for me. Well, Harden
stand by you and I have totake our second break and explanation. Lauren
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corn Gold is our special guest,and we're going to bet on the other
side of like I said, ofthis very short break as we continue here
in the X Zone with here's trulyRob McConnell from our broadcast studios and corporate
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I'm rob Occonnell. We're coming toyou on a Classic twelve twenty www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Laurencorn Goold is my special guest at this
hour, and Lauren is in Miami, Florida. Lauren, has there ever
been a paranormal investigation that you've walkedin and felt so much negativity that you
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just want to turn around and walkaway. No, not from spirits,
but from the people that are livingthere. Really, Yes, I did
go against some advice from your friendof mine to a woman who as soon
as I walked into her house,she wanted to preach to me whatever her
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particular religion was and the belief systemthat whatever I find is going to be
from the devil. I said,well, then why am I here?
I mean, I'm here as aninvestigator, that's the operative word. You're
I'm investigating. If you only havea belief system in place that you won't
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accept evidence, then I really couldn'tbe here. So now I do a
much better job about vetting people becausesome people are very very negative, or
they have three conceived ideas. Iknow it's my dead ex husband, or
how do you know that? Ijust know it well, you know you
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be a little open minded. No, okay, good bye, But no,
I've never had a spiritual I've comewalking to a place where there was
a lot of heavy energy. Butthat's the job, you know. You
go in and you find out howdo you and your team protect yourselves from
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all this negative energy that you're you'redealing with during a paranormal investigation, and
how do you make sure you don'tbring it home with you? I have
brought it home. I have.Uh, I've actually was I've brought negative
spirit home and uh, you know, pot it out. I've also done.
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I am what called is a remotemedium. In other words, sometimes
I'll just stay at home and aperson will call me and I can you
know, sense what's going on overthere at home? And one there there
was one time there was a spirit. His name was Cardell. He was
at her house and then he endedup at my house trying to terrorize me,
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and you know I got rid ofhim with my mouth and my I
actually recorded discussion. I do havethe recording, and one of a couple
of my angels, my guides,came and said, don't worry, worry
about him, we'll take care ofhim. And then about a half hour
later he came back and I said, you again, what are you doing
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here? He said, your yourguide told me I had to come back
and apologize or they were going tostick me in hell. I said,
oh, well you probably belong there, you know, so I guess there
is some sort of punishment. Youknow. On the other side, how
do you deal between the potential paranormalactivity and natural explanations? Well, we
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What I tried to do is ifI mean, there's always fluctuations and energy,
you can hear You could hear something. It could be the wind and
it sounds like a voice, andit could be either either way. So
I try to run it through certainprograms like waves had and try to remove
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some of the things. Sometimes there'sjust iffy and if it's if he you
know, then you be you know, you be honest with the people.
Listen. You know, we're notreally sure we caught a voice. It
maybe or it may not. Someof them are intelligent. Like when my
father comes, I record him andhe's always talking to me about investments,
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so that's not the wind or youknow, natural phenomenon. You know,
he's talking about real estate. Sohave you ever encountered skeptics who have actually
challenged your findings? And if so, how do you deal with them?
Well? I haven't had people reallychallenge my finding, but I have had
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people say, I see what you'reshowing me, but my explanation is different.
And then they usually start quoting somereligious book that it's it is spiritual
in nature, but I'm being ledastray by forces of the darkness, you
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know, that kind of just ButI've never really had anybody look at it
and say it's not there. Ijust had people say, you don't understand
what you're doing. You know,you think it's you know, they're really
demons in disguise, or you know, I mean I get that once in
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a while, mostly on Facebook.How about EVPs? How do you explain
them? You know, for thelisteners out there who have no idea what
an EVP is. A EVP isan electronic voice phenomenon where paranormal investigator will
use a digital or analog recording device. Ask a question, pause, wait
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a few moments and then ask anotherquestion. Now, the answers or the
replies from the spirits can only beheard when the recording is played back.
Now, how do we explain thatwe can't hear the answer when it's given,
but later on there it is onthe recording device. You know,
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I don't know that, but youknow, sometimes I do hear it.
And then I asked the teammate ormyself, I checked back the seat if
what I heard was at that timewhat was recorded. But very you're right,
very often we don't hear it,you know. First you know,
I've asked sir, it's I said, you know, how do you make
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it? How do you speak it? All? You have the local cords?
How do you even show yourself?You don't have a body. And
what I was told is that theyhave. They manipulate energy and they manipulate
light to form either a sound wayor a visual manifestation of themselves. I
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said, well, then why can'twhy can't nom the psychics? Why can't
I hear you all the time?And they said, well, because the
energy is in the place that youare. There's all there's often environmental phenomenon
that prevents us from you know,communicating with you, and we are we
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are really reflecting ourselves at a veryvery low frequency. So that's been my
experience. So it may be below you know, one hundred hearts or
you know, whatever it is thatwe can't hear it, But every once
in a while I'll hear a reallygood, like just almost a total conversation.
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So I have to presume that thereare environmental factors or that you know,
enhance it or you know, removeit. I would imagine that cell
phones and Wi Fi transmissions really screwup the attempt of investigators when it came
to establishing evidence that the paranormal isreal. Well, my cell phones have
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always been my friend, because that'sreally all that I use. I just
turn it on and I just sitthere. And somebody said to me,
and it may be true. AndI never asked the spirit I forget to
ask. They said, well,did it never occur to you that maybe
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they're attracted to you? So that'swhy you have good luck hearing them,
And because I do seem to geta lot of stuff that other paranormal investigators
don't get in abundance. So Isaid, well, that's that's a good
I never thought of that, Butthat's a good Maybe I'm a spirit magnet
or something, and there's so manyof them that somebody's down to be heard.
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You know, if you have ahundred people in a room, you're
going to hear at least two people. So I said, yeah, you
know, I got to ask aboutthat. That's a good question. Maybe
there are certain people that you're attractedto, or certain kinds of spirits.
Maybe they go, you know,like you mind meld you, whatever your
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wavelength is, they natch you there. Not all of them can do that.
Well, I know why your cellphone likes you because your cell phone
has experienced firsthand how your potty mouthaffects, you know, spirits and other
you know, other members of theother side, and it doesn't want to
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it doesn't want to be on yourbad side. So that's why it's nice
to you. But yeah, theyprobably have gotten my name around. Something
that I've been told by many paranormalinvestigators is that a lot of these spirits
don't know they're dead. And youand I were talking about how angry or
frustrated they are, and that thisis one of the major causes they don't
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know why people can see them theydon't know why people can't hear them.
They don't know why these why they'rebeing neglected. It's because they don't know
they're dead. What's your opinion onthat. I've never had that experience.
I came in No, not thatI remember. I believed that because you
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know, you'd see people, you'dhear other paranormal investigators of psychics say they
see people walking around in period clothing, so they must think that they're back
in the eighteenth century or you know, whatever it is. But I have
asked them, I've seen people thatlook like, you know, they're wearing
you know, American revolutionary clothing orsomething, And I say, you know,
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you do realize the American Revolution isover, and you know we're death
buddies that England. Now you doknow that? And well, of course
I know that you know at thattime to say, yes, it's twenty
eighteen. Oh you're aware of thepassage of time. Why do you look
this way? And they said,because this is who I am and this
is the most exciting time of mylife. I've been told that I have
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never melt met anyone who says,well I am waiting, you know,
you know, I mean they couldsee the TV, they can see the
electricity, they can they know somethingis going on. I've never I've never
talked to anybody who said, whatdo you mean, you know Abraham Lincoln
was just assassinated, you know,eighteen sixty five or whatever. I mean,
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I've never I've never had that experience. How do you figure that a
ghost or a spirit that is energycan wear period clothing when clothing doesn't have
any energy. Well, they're notwearing the clothing wearing I mean they're like,
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Okay, if you're looking at aspirit and this man or woman manifests
their faith and you can see theface, they can manisfess what the clothing
look like at the time. It'sjust it's just not part of their skin.
They're able to form, like theycan form their face or their arms,
they can form the clothes. Idon't know how they know. I
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tend to think it's instinctual because Idon't think they have a big clothing door
on the other side. He can, you know, dressing you up.
So I think it's something that youinnately do. Because when my mother passed
away, all right, we're goingto have to hold you off here because
we do have to take our finalbreak, so please stand by. Lauren
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Cornold is our special guest exonation,and we're talking about spirits, psychics,
paranormal investigations and much more. AndMelaurna and I will be back on the
other side of this break as wecontinue hearing the X Zone from our broadcast
center and studios in Saint Catharine's,Ontario, Canada, right here on Classic
twelve twenty and streamed around the worldon Classic twelve twenty. Sea Bye bye
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bye by Bak enough of b bye. Every time I look to loving,
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I still love and money just getby bumble from you. I druk whay
a brave love you are even todayand welcome back everyone. This is the
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excellent. I'm Rob McConnell and you'relistening to us on Classic twelve twenty or
online at www dot Classic twelve twentydot CA. Lorden Cornwold is our special
guest and Louren. If somebody listeningto us tonight is inspired and motivated by
by our conversation and they too wantto become a paranormal investigator, what should
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they do? How would they goabout it? Well, the first thing
that they should do is read.Keep an open mind. Don't think you
know everything. I still know verylittle in comparison to what I hope to
learn a lot of times that youknow, I know my experience when I
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really started investigating, I got.I had a lot of surprises, a
lot of old notions. I hadto put aside the prejudices that I did
realize I had. So I wouldtell that person to watch other or normal
investigators, get a mentor even ifit's online, read the books all that.
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Get as much information as you canso that you do it right and
go slowly. There's no spirits aren'tgoing anywhere. You don't have to invest
in fat millions of dollars or onehundreds of dollars even to capture spirit energies,
So you know, don't run outand buy you know, seven hundred
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dollars cameras. You don't need that. You need a cell phone, you
need a flashlight, you need adigital audio recorder or even even one with
a little tape in it, andpatience, and that's all you need.
What are some of the misconceptions aboutparanormal investigation that that you'd like to dispel
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tonight, Well, first of all, is the one that we spoke of
earlier, that that spirits have atendency to come out at night. Right,
that that's not true. A lotof my best investigation has been during
the day. Also, that youdon't that you have to have certain kinds
of equipment. You don't have tohave certain kinds of equipment. You don't
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have to have powerful recorders and thingslike that, because you know, if
the cell phone can pick it up, that that's really all that you need.
And also that the biggest thing thatinvestigators, I think make a mistake
is that there's two impatience. TheyMy way is to turn on a recorder,
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let the recorder run for twenty secondsat least before you even open your
mouth, and then ask one questionand shut up and give them thirty seconds
to answer, and then ask another. Investigators spend a lot of time talking
instead of listening. Listen, listen, listen, and you will be successful
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in this. What are the ethicalguidelines or principles that you follow in your
paranormal investigations that you'd like to sharewith the listeners. Well, first of
all, you have to you haveto analyze yourself why are you in this?
Are you in it because you wantto keep knowledge and learn and contact
the other side, or you wantto make a name for yourself, or
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you want to feel cool. Sothe ghosts, your spirit, whatever you
want to call it, always comesfirst. Secondly, the people that you're
that own the home or the buildingsalways come second. In other words,
you always have to consider their feelings. Do not ever put anything on the
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internet. Do not talk about it. It's almost like you're like a confessor.
Keep it private unless the person thatyou're working with, or the homeowner
or whatever it tells you to releaseit. Stop don't. You're not in
it for you. You're just aconduit between the other side, the spirit
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world, and those of us thatare still living. That's all you are.
And remember that that you are theleast important person in the whole procedures.
Have you ever collaborated with any otherparanormal investigation groups and how does that
work? Not with groups, butI did have a friend who did it
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herself, and she's from Atlanta,and we used to collaborate together a little
bit, and then the pandemic hitand everything kind of you know, stop,
and you know, we just kindof drifted apart. And I have
I have worked with other paranormal investigators. What I have not done and will
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not do, is work with anypsychic, because when I go in as
a paranormal investigator, I don't goin as a psychic. I go in
as an investigator. Like I saidearlier, if I walk into a house
and I see a spirit, Iwill of course take out my equipments,
but I still put up all thestuff as if I don't see them because
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I am an investigator. They didn'tcall for a psychic. They called for
an investigator, so they're kind ofI kind of wear two hats. I
don't really I mean, I havean advantage because I'm a psychic, but
I don't count on that. Icount on the evidence that it is caught
on the cameras and the recording.What about these TV shows that are up
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there, the different ghost shows.It seems that a lot of things happen
in a very short period of timeon their shows, and yet is there's
never anything that is that is evidence. What's your take on the shows?
Well, yeah, you know,it is funny because you know, you
spend more time not getting anything thangetting it, you know what I mean.
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It's sort of like if somebody's thereand they want to talk to you,
you're probably gonna hear from them thefirst fifteen minutes. If they're not
going to talk to you in fifteenminutes or a half hour, they're probably
you have nothing to say or there'snothing there. Yes, I've always wanted
you know, there probably is alot of times with these shows that they
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don't get anything. You just don't. You know, they don't air that
because you know it's foreign, right, so they air that. They they
air the stuff where things are alittle bit active, you know, But
even then you got to take itwith a grain of salt because you don't
know if they're manipulating it. Iwould say they're not, because I think
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a lot of them have the samerules that you never leave people alone.
There's always two investigators in a roomat the same time, and there are
some that are more reliable than others. I mean, now on x formerly
Twitter, there's nothing, there's nothingbut ghost hunters. You know, if
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somebody picks up a camera and says, oh, hey, I'm going to
go to seven to eleven and doit ghost hunting, you can't do that.
I mean, you can do it, but I mean you've got to
take it with a brain of salt, and you really have to do research
and not just the enthusiastics, butbut really be professional. A lot of
these shows and individual groups and investigatorslove going to prisons, bars, hospitals
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where there has been countless reports ofparanormal activity, ghosts and spirits. Why
would the ghosts and spirits remain ina place that has been turned into a
tourism location. Yeah, you know, it's like when you go to the
Lizzie Bourdon Now, Lisey Board mayshow up if she detached to the building
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or she wants to communicate. Butit's like graveyards. Graveyards are the most
spirits of devoid places on Earth.There's just a bunch of bodies there.
There really aren't any spirits hanging aroundunless they unless they come to see you.
And I went to a funeral threemonths ago and I saw two or
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three spirits. Now, it wasvery unusual because I usually don't see anything
at those kinds of functions because there'snobody there. Maybe when these people go,
when they's when these ghosts on thesgo to these places, the spirits
or they're not. I don't thinkthey're trapped, and I don't think they
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want to be there, but Ithink they want to be seen. They
want someone to maybe acknowledge them,so they go to where where they're going.
So you know, if I'm ifI'm motivated to go to an abandoned
prison somewhere and I see spirits,and maybe because they want me, they
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want to be seen by somebody,and they know that we're there to do
that, so they'll show up.I don't think they reside here because I
think we go back a day laterand not find anything. A lot of
investigators also use photographs of orbs asevidence of spirits, that these orbs are
(53:28):
actually spirits. So what are youWhat are your thoughts and comments about orbs?
That are the photographs of orbs thatare taken. They they can be
spirit, they can also be dust. So what I look for is sometimes
I do. What I do isI look for if I if I if
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I see an orb. I've caughtsome orbs on my ring camera and other
cameras. I look for other phenomenonat the same time, Like I heard
my father's voice in the living roomand I turned I didn't so I was
lady didn't want to get out ofbed. So I turned on the speaker
in the microphone. I said,he's there, and it was mean,
Daddy, it's mean. And thenwhen I reviewed everything, I saw a
(54:15):
couple of orbs flying by. Sothen that seems more credible to me,
But it could, you know.And I also looked a lot of these
orbs that are really spiritual in theirquality have a face. I look for
that. That's also helpful because otherthan that, they could be spiritual.
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But you really don't know, becauseit could be a piece of best flying
by. I asked a paranormal investigatorthe other night why morgs are not not
only morgs, but funeral parlors arenot getting any reports of hauntings or ghost
(54:58):
activity. Any ideas why? Yeah, they're not there when I was when
I was a young lady. Sowe're talking three years ago. Okay,
right, thank you very much.I wasn't true what field of science I
wanted to go in. So Iwent and I decided to do a little
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stuff in the morgue. I didn'tsee anybody. I mean, I saw
bodies, but I didn't see anyspirit. A spirit may be attached to
their physical being and be either oragain, they want to be seen and
they maybe they know you're a psychicfor some reason, and they show up.
But usually the attachment to the mortalbody is just right after they died
(55:44):
and then they kind of, youknow, hover a little bit and then
they go on. So these peoplehad donated their body to science, so
they were in refrigerator for a longtime. There was really no attachment emotionally
to the body, so they weren'tthere for that. So, you know,
I didn't see anybody. I didnot see any And I have a
friend who have to works in ain a funeral home, and I said,
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do you ever feel anything? Doyou ever see anything? And creepy
you know, stuff you like?No? None? Wow, Lauren,
Lauren, the time has come whenI must say so long to you,
my dear friend. First of all, thank you so much for taking time
out of your busy schedule to joinus here tonight on the x Zone,
and you know, for sharing yourexperience and your knowledge with the members of
(56:30):
the x O Nation who listened tous right here on Classic twelve twenty.
So thank you very much, andlisten to you and your family and your
friends and your team. The verybest of the season to you both and
all, and I look forward tospeaking to you in the new year.
Happy New Year, okay, HappyNew Year, married Christmas Avionica, all
(56:51):
that stuff, all right, Lauren, take care of yourself. God bless
you. And that's it for tonight, x Oonation. I'll be back tomorrow
night as once again we cross thetime space continuum to this place that I
call the X Zone. And we'recoming to you from our broadcast center in
studios in Saint Catharines, Ontario,Canada on Classic twelve twenty and around the
world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. So until next we meet here in
(57:15):
the X Zone. Always remember Xzonationto keep your eyes to the sky and
your heart to the light. I'mRob McConnell. Good night everyone,
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