November 20, 2023 • 57 mins
Paul Dale Roberts is an actor, Fortean Investigator who investigates all things paranormal from ghosts to demons to crypt-ids to UFOs. Roberts is an author for Costa Rican Times, Phenomena Magazine and Paranormal Underground Magazine. Roberts has several paranormal themed books published. Roberts has investigated paranormal hot spots like Area 51, Skinwalker Ranch, Stonehenge, Bridge over River Kwai in Thailand, Tower of London, victim locations of well-known serial killers. Roberts is the co-owner of Halo Paranormal Investigations - HPI International. He is married to Deanna Jaxine Stinson.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
Please note that all XZBN radio and/or television shows are Copyright © REL-MAR McConnell Meda Company, Niagara, Ontario, Canada – www.rel-mar.com. For more Episodes of this show and all shows produced, broadcasted and syndicated from REL-MAR McConell Media Company and The 'X' Zone Broadcast Network and the 'X' Zone TV Channell, visit www.xzbn.net. For programming, distribution, and syndication inquiries, email programming@xzbn.net.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:14):
Welcome to the X Zone, aplace where fact is fiction and fiction is
reality. Now here's your host,Rob hacconnell doing that thing bringing into a
(00:37):
million pieces. Blag you always domeans you, And welcome back to the
X and every one. I amRob McConnell, and we're coming to you
from our broadcast center in studios inSaint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on
the X Zone Broadcast Network. Andfrom this on, let me see what's
(01:00):
that you say? What? Youcan listen to us and seeing Catherines now
on AM radio. Yes, youcan on Classic twelve twenty CFAJ, and
you can listen to us and allthe great programming on CFAJ at www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Wow, what a show I have planned for
you members of the x oll Nationtonight. However, my first guest tonight
(01:23):
is the gentleman that is going totalk to us about a lot of strange
and wonderful things. He's a i'dlike to say, a friend and a
regular here on the excellent Paul DaleRoberts is joining us and he is in
Elk Grove, California. And formore information about Paul and the great stuff,
he does visit their website page atFacebook dot com, forward Slash,
(01:44):
Paul dot d dot Roberts dot fivefour five and Paul Dale Roberts. Welcome
back to the excellent old friend.How have you been? Thank you,
Rob? I love being here.So I've been doing good excellent. Yeah,
but you're a very busy you manwhen it comes to things that go
bump in the night, things thatfly in the sky, and big feet
(02:05):
that travel all over the place thatnot very many people can actually get photos
of. So what you know,let's let's go one by one. Is
there a before we went on hereyou were telling me about a very interesting
telephone call that you had just beforewe went on air. Absolutely, I
got this phone call from Elizabeth fromKCR News TV. Wow. I thought,
(02:30):
well, okay, they probably wantto follow us on an investigation or
something like that, but she saidno, she goes. I got a
call from a Darlene Pearson that livesin San Louis Obispo and she is in
desperate need of help. And Isaid, what's going on? She goes,
(02:50):
I don't know. It seems likeit's something demonic. So I gave
Darlene a call right and she saysthat every single day she like she's being
stabbed a hundred times over. AndI said, what's stabbing you? And
she says, these demons. Shesays that, excuse me, two demons
(03:16):
attack her, and they like theystab her. It's like a spiritual stab.
There's no wound or anything like that, but she's getting this feeling of
being stabbed, and they actually,she says, that they sexually assault her.
So she said, on one particularnight, she saw a black hole
(03:43):
open up in the living room andtwo skinny entities and then they look like
men came out of the hole andthen just disappeared in the shadows. So
she says, Paul, She goes, can you get down here. I'll
pay for your ass and everything else. And it's by Monterey, California.
(04:04):
And I'm just right now so bookedup with so many other little things.
I just don't see myself going downthere. But I told her what she
could do is self bless her house. And she says, Okay, how
do I go about that? Isaid, well, go to a dollar
(04:24):
tree store, pick up a bunchof angel figurines, go to your nearest
Catholic church, and in the lobby. They have holy water. Dip each
angel into the holy water and saya protection prayer over each angel, and
place those angels around open places aroundyour house, like the windows and the
(04:47):
doorways, and then step in themiddle of the house and say it protection
prayer as if you mean it,and ask for God's angels to protect you.
So she's going to do that.I got her in touch with San
Luis Obiscoo paranormal group also so shecould be visited and be consulted by them,
(05:09):
and also to being the location scoutfor Ghost of Ventures. I contacted
Justin West who works for a Ghostof Ventures, and they are very excited
about it and may do a Ghostof Adventures house call at that residence.
How frequently are people experiencing demonic demonicainterference or the forces of evil attacking them
(05:39):
like this lady has? Is itmore popular these days? Paul? For
a while there I was again ina demonic case, one after another,
and in fact there was again somany they gave me the nickname the demon
Wawyer. So I know how todo a Roman Catholic house blessing on a
(06:00):
home, and I also to givethem a full submersion baptism if they have
an attachment. And I say,let's say a couple of years ago.
In one year, I got somethinglike I would say about twelve demonic cases.
Wow. Yeah, and some ofthem rob are just really really crazy
(06:23):
and it could be a mental issue. We had a demonic case in Berkeley
and when we got there, itwas a hoarder's house and they were saying
that the demon was making them hoardall this crap. And what was really
(06:45):
unsettling is that they actually took outthe toilets out of their bathroom and placed
them in the garage and they weredoing their stuff in the garage and an
out for this couple would go tothe gas station to utilize the restroom.
And yeah, it was crazy.And now, Paul, let me just
(07:10):
ask you a question here at thispoint, my friend, how do you
judge whether these people are actually havingthese experiences or if there are mental issues.
Well, we at one time HPIdid have a psychiatrist on the team,
(07:30):
and they moved away and there's somewhereI think, like in Tennessee or
someplace like that, so we lostthem. But she would sit there and
try to determine if it's a mentalissue or if it's something demonic. What
I will do is, nevertheless,I will still bless her house. If
they feel like they have an attachment, I'll do a full submersion baptism.
(07:56):
And in a lot of cases Iwould say I was like eighty percent successful
where I actually have people contact me. The clients contact me and say,
Paul, the attachment's gun. Yourbaptism worked, or your self blessing work
and stuff like that. And Imean the blessing of the house because I
(08:16):
do a Roman Catholic house blessing.But what happens if somebody is not Roman
Catholic. Well, then we hadother members who were Buddha, Hindu,
Protestant. Yeah, we had wehad all the different religions covered, even
(08:39):
American Native Americans. So right nowwe don't have it fully covered like that.
But what I try to do is, like recently, we had an
investigation and the guy was Hindu.So what I did was I just started
reading some books on different type ofblessings that Hindu do and he was familiar
(09:07):
with it too, so he kindof walked me through it. So I
just did like a Hindu type cleansing. It's kind of a tongue twister Hindu
Hindu do Yeah? Why why is? Why is? Why are the demon
attacks becoming more frequent? Paul?Do you have any idea is there a
connection between the demonic presence and etpresence? There's a possibility, because I
(09:35):
do think demons could be extra crustalor from other dimensions. They're definitely not
trustral. They weren't born on Earth, and if you believe anything about fallen
angels, that would make them extratrustral. So I do think there's some
(09:58):
type of presence here which is tryingto destroy mankind, and that's your demonic
force wherever they come from. Whatdo you think, Why do you think
they're trying to destroy mankind? Whatis there? What is their mission?
You know? Is it that theywanted to reclaim the earth for themselves or
(10:18):
is this the fight between good andevil talked about in the Apocalypse? Exactly,
good and evil. There's always goingto be a fight between good and
evil. I mean, look atit now. Just we have situations with
North Korea, China, Taiwan,Iran, the Hamas versus the Israelites.
(10:45):
I mean it's just, yeah,it'll always be like that. If you
look at your old texts. Let'ssay from Nurremberg, Germany, back in
the fifteenth century, people are lookingup in the sky and seeing these UFOs
fighting each other, cigar shaped UFOs, globe shape UFOs, trianglar shape UFOs
(11:09):
fighting in the sky. So there'sdefinitely something going on, and I think
it all has to do with control. There's entbs out there that want to
control Earth and want to control mankind. Paul, there's talking now with those
(11:30):
who are looking at quantum physics foranswers that are saying that we live in
a holographic existence, that everything wesee here feel is not real. What
is your take on that? Thatis really mystifying. I kind of believe
(11:54):
something like that could exist, thatwe're like in some type of matrix type
equation. Yeah, it's very possible. It's very possible to what we consider
as gods and stuff like that createdthe whole universe, and yeah, we
could be living in a holographic typereality. Yeah, there's no telling.
(12:20):
I mean, if you're like afifth step civilization, so your your your
your civilization has so much knowledge andintelligence that you're practically considered as a god.
So and they have the let's say, have the power to create a
(12:43):
whole universe and and watch us undera microscope. Reminds me of the Superman
cartoon comic books where they used towhere he used to have these cities and
these giants in these giant sized glassand and everybody within these glass containers thought
they were actually in their own littleworld. Absolutely. I remember that.
(13:07):
I used to read comic books,and I was in the comic book industry,
so yeah, I know what you'retalking about. Paul Dale Roberts is
my very special guest of the Stylerex oone Nation. If you'd like to
find out more about Paul, visithis Facebook site at that is all right,
you've got your pencils on paper,but I don't want you to go
there right now. Paul's with us. He's going to be with us for
the next forty five minutes. HisFacebook pages, Facebook, dot com,
(13:31):
forward Slash, Paul dot d dotRoberts dot five four five. This is
the Xzone and I'm Rob McConnell.We're coming to you from our broadcast center
and studios in St. Catherine's,Ontario, Canada, on the ixone broadcast
network at sexedbn dot net and onClassic twelve twenty CFAJ www dot Classic twelve
(13:52):
twenty dot CA. We'll be backon the other side of the short break.
Don't go away. H m hm hmmm. On love. Paul
(14:52):
deel Roberts is my special guest.This our exhonation, and we're coming to
you on the excellent broadcast network Xi'd ben dot net and on twelve twenty
Classic twelve twenty that is Classic twelvetwenty CFAJ. Here in Saint Catharine's www
dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.Paul, I understand that you've got some
(15:13):
news or something to tell us aboutthe USS Nimics event. Absolutely. My
ex brother in law, Robert Mitchell, actually served on the USS Nimics and
I did an investigation one time onthe USS Hornet and the USS Hornet is
very, very haunted. There's alot of ghostly activity on that ship.
(15:39):
So I asked Robert, my exbrother in law, the USS Nimics would
be haunted, and to my surprise, he said yes absolutely. I said,
now, why would the USS Nimusbe haunted? And he told me
(16:00):
that at one time a serial killernamed John Eric Armstrong actually served on the
USS Nimets. Wow. Yeah,and when they would go to different ports.
It's very possible he was killing prostitutesat different ports. And some of
(16:25):
the servicemen on the uss Nimets weresaying that there is seen there would be
a woman apparition that would appear onthe ship and she looks like she's weeping,
crying, and in very much distress. And possibly that could be a
victim of the serial killer John EricArmstrong that served on the cuss Nimets And
(16:52):
what possibly could have happened at someport He could have possibly killed her and
her spirit followed him on the ship. Why would her spirit follow him onto
the ship. I thought that theghost would remain in the area where she
was murdered. It's very possible.But if he had taken something that belonged
(17:17):
to her that she's cherish, herenergy is around her energy filled is around
that object. She can now gofrom point A to point B. And
we've had a lot of situations likethat, like this lady. She went
to a nantique store and she boughta grandfather's clock, brought it back to
(17:37):
her house, and all of asudden, her house is haunted. Cabinets
are opening, dishes are flying off, the kitchen shelf, forks and spoons
fall to the floor. She hearsfootsteps, and there was a parapsychologist that
visitor and said, you probably needto get rid of that antique grandfather's clock.
(18:02):
So she returned it back to theantique shop and the haunting stopped.
So I'm thinking that possibly this JohnEric Armstrong, the serial killer, probably
took something of value from this ladyof the night and brought it back on
the ship, causing her to hauntthe ship and haunt John Eric and other
(18:29):
servicemen also too. He was knownto have killed two people in Seattle,
and one of them was a transAnd so with these people that he killed,
is possibly there's a possible chance thathe killed other people at different ports.
(18:52):
Another thing that happened on the ussNimates They had a plane crash on
the USS Nimets and fourteen servicemen werekilled. All right, I think we
should we should let her remind ourlisteners that the USS Nemets is an aircraft
carrier, right, isn't it attacknuclear powered warship And and some servicemen,
(19:15):
including Robert, have seen faces appearon reflective surfaces of these fourteen dead servicemen
that die because of that plane crash. And another unique thing about the US
nemets is that they also too,that's where they saw the tic tac Ufo
(19:40):
incident off San Diego. You know, having gone through a number of wars,
there must be other other military assetsthat are haunted. To your knowledge,
are there many assets, for example, aircraft carriers, planes, destroyers,
(20:00):
subs that are haunted? You know, Rob Like I was twelve years
in the army, and every militaryinstallation is haunted. And the reason why
because there are servicemen who commit suicide, There's servicemen who died in accidental training
(20:21):
accidents. There's murders on different facilities, government facilities. So yeah, there's
stories of aircraft that are haunted.There's stories of tanks that are actually haunted.
(20:44):
Ghosts are seen on these tanks andeverything else. So with the military,
there's a lot of deaths, andwhen you have a lot of deaths,
you're going to get some hauntings.Paul tell our listeners, you're your
story about how you got into investigatingthe paranormal. Oh and that was on
(21:07):
every street in Fresville, California.I was just a little child and the
entities in that home. That housewas haunted. The entities were centered on
me and the story. It soundscrazy, but this is what I experienced
as a little boy, and Iwanted to know if these were childhood nightmares
(21:33):
or did I really witness the paranormaland the things that happened to me.
I had an entity pushed me intothe heater, burning my leg I was
being enticed by a female voice thatsounded like my mother in the orange grove.
As I was looking out the bedroomwindow, I heard a female which
(21:57):
sounded like my mother, mimicking mymother saying, Dale, come here,
Dale, come here. It wastrying to entice me to go in that
orange grove, and I didn't doit. I went into the kitchen and
there was my mother. So Ihad that incident happen. And another crazy
(22:17):
incident was these things that looked likeskulls that had wings that would fly into
my bedroom, terrorizing. Yeah.And the craziest, craziest thing was I
heard what sounded like rolling wheels comingdown this sidewalk to my bedroom window.
(22:37):
My bedroom window opens halfway here comesthis black tea kettle type thing that has
a snout. The snout turns towardsme and blows out these fumes. I
start hacking and coffin. My mothercomes in thinking that she's given me cough
syrup, but actually gave me ateaspoon of poison. When she realized what
(23:04):
she did, she was like intotal shock. She rushed me into the
bathroom and made me vomit. Shewas sticking her fingers in my mouth and
making me vomit. So I thinkthis entity was actually trying to kill me.
When we moved down of that house, I was not terrorized by any
(23:26):
more entities. But as I gotolder, I started reading books about the
paranormal. I wanted to know ifthose were nightmares or was it something really
paranormal. So that's how I gotinto the paranormal. Paul, why is
it some people like yourself are soopen to the paranormal events and other people
(23:51):
they live their entire lives without evenseeing or having the impression that they're being
followed by a ghost or seeing aUFO, seeing sasquatch? What is it
in people like you and other peoplethat I've had on the show over the
many years that I've been doing it, who have this gift to actually see
(24:12):
and be involved in the paranormal.Well, I think everybody is psychic from
age one to eight, because afterwhen I turned like nine years old stuff
like that, I wasn't seeing anythingparanormal. It was it was all over
with. It was. But somepeople maintain it and they had that psychic
(24:37):
ability. If I interviewed about tenpeople, about eight people seems like I
had a paranormal experience and two peopledidn't. So, because I'm always when
I talk to different people, that'sone of the things I always ask them,
have you ever experienced anything paranormal?Because they know I'm a paranormal investigator.
(25:00):
So and usually they'll say something,yes, I saw a UFO or
yes I saw a ghost one timein the cemetery. So and I've been
on something like twenty five hundred investigationsand I've only seen four full body apparitions.
So that's a rarity. That's somethingthat doesn't happen very often. So
(25:26):
I don't know. Speaking about paranormalinvestigations, you have these places that are
renowned for being haunted wavefully for example, why do these spirits remain there?
Are they do? They like?The interaction with the paranormal investigators that go
there is this kind of a gamefor them or is it just that they
(25:49):
can't move on they're stuck within thatwithin those four walls. From my investigations,
this is what I've observed. Someentities don't want to go into the
light. When they go into thelight, that's it. You never see
them again. But they don't wantto go into the light because let's say
they had religious beliefs, They've donesomething sinful in their life, and they
(26:15):
feel if they go into the light, they're going to be judged. So
they have that opportunity of not goinginto the light and they rather remain out
of the light because they're scared they'regoing to be judged. Then there's entities
who have unfinished business. They don'tgo into the light because let's say the
(26:37):
grandmother sees that her granddaughters having ababy, while she wants to stick around
and be an angel to that baby, so she doesn't go into the light.
So that's some of the reasons whyI've seen that entities don't go into
the light. We just got acall on this one house and it's over
(27:02):
one hundred years old, and there'sentities in that house that lived there before,
and the reason why they kind ofstick around is because they enjoy that
house. They have stuff still inthat house, and they stick around just
to kind of protect that house.Fascinating. When we come back, you
(27:26):
were from this break, you weresaying that the grandmother wants, you know,
possibly a grandmother wants to remain onthis side of the light because of
her granddaughter having a baby, andonce the baby is born, she becomes
an angel for the baby. DidI understand that right? Correct? Okay,
when we come back, let's let'slook at that, because I thought
(27:48):
angels were could not be or werenot people entities. Oh no, no,
no, Rob No, I'm justsaying, oh I see angels to
the baby. Non a natural angel. Ah. Okay, stand by my
friend. You and I have totake our break for this hour. X
(28:11):
O Nation. Our guest this houris Paul Dale Roberts, and we'll be
back on the other side of thisvery short break as the X Zone continues
right here on the XON Broadcast Networkwww dot XNBN dot net and Classic twelve
twenty c f A J and St. Catherines, Ontario www dot Classic twelve
twenty dot ca A. It's amazinghow you can speak grand to my heart
(29:15):
With that same word, you canlight up the dog trys on me.
I can or speaking why I came? When you don't say thing, the
(29:40):
small face, lean and welcome backto everyone. This is the excellent.
I am Rob McConnell. Paul dealRoberts is my special guest and his Facebook
page is facebook dot com forward slashPaul dot d dot Roberts dot five four
five. Yeah, I'm I'm sorry, Paul. I thought that you were
(30:02):
saying that, you know, somebodywho doesn't go to the light can actually
stay on this side and become anangel. That's what I thought you were
getting at. So that angel storywas just an analogy, exactly, gotcha,
got ya, Paul. You youtravel all over the place. I
understand that you've also been to that'sarea fifty one, Skinwalker Ranch. What
(30:30):
what have you discovered about Skinwalker Ranch? Because everybody talks about it these days,
right, I've been to like fiftynine countries, and now that I'm
retired, I haven't really been travelingvery much, so it's like the travel
bug is gone. Yeah. Butbut Skinwalker Ranch when I went there,
(30:56):
I was hoping to camp out therefor seven days, and I didn't go
to the actual Skinwalker Ranch, butI went to the valley where Skinwalker Ranch
was, and the whole valley hasparanormal activity. So when we arrived,
this big storm hit the area andwe were trying to set up the tents,
(31:22):
I was falling into the mud andeverything else. I had two investigators
with me, and the two thingsthat we experienced that was kind of unnatural
is this the sky seemed like itwould kind of opened up a little bit,
and there was this energy ball balllightning. I've never seen ball lightning
(31:48):
in my life, and it shotdown, hit the ground and exploded.
And the next thing that happened iswe heard this strain screeching sound. And
I'm retired from the Department Official Wildlife, so I'm very familiar with various type
(32:09):
of animal noises, and that wassomething like I've never heard before. And
I had the recorder on, butthe rain was so heavy all you could
hear was the pitter pattern of therain. The next day, one of
the investigators had pneumonia and that cutthe whole trip short. So from Utah
(32:36):
back to California. Brought her backto California because she was so ill and
that was my adventure at Skinwalker Ranchand experiencing those two things. Based on
what you've learned about Skinwalker Ranch,why is it so? Why is it
(32:59):
so filled with with all these differentparanormal activities, the sightings of different cryptids,
UFO and omalis. What do youthink the reason is? Paul,
I believe that Skinwalker Ranch is ona lay line, and a lay line
is an energized area, which seemslike it attracts UFOs and UAPs because it's
(33:24):
sort of like a fueling station.They can gas up with this energy,
and that energy can possibly cause portals. I mean dogs for some Reis is
so excited. Yeah, I havethat effect on dogs and women, So
don't worry about so Anyway, theyhad a situation where one of the investigators
(33:52):
before the investigators that you see nowon the History Channel Bigelow's group, one
of the scientists said that he sawa portal in the sky open up and
from that portal, a bigfoot typecreature came out of that portal and scurried
off. So there is something definitelygoing on over a Skinwalker Ranch with the
(34:19):
UFO activity, and I think it'sall connected. You had the poultrygeist activity.
You had something that looked like adire wolf that they shot at and
it walked away. The UFO activitythings. UFO is going into the mesa
and coming out of the mesa.I mean, yeah, I believe it's
(34:42):
all connected, and it has todo with something like a lay line,
because you seem like wherever there's laylines like stone hinch, I've been a
stone hinge and stonehenge attracts UFOs,cross circles and everything else. Ghostly activity.
People see ghosts and shadow people.So yeah, I think it's all
(35:07):
connected. But a lot of thesesightings, Paul, I think you would
agree are self manifested by the peoplewho go there expecting something to happen.
Something does happen. That you getthe Paradoli effect and they truly believe they're
having a paranormal experience when they actuallyaren't. Or also too okay, people
(35:30):
can produce a tulpa and the authorof the shadow like only the shadow knows,
right. Yeah. Yeah, Hisfriends and family were going into his
home and they would see this characterwith a black fedora hat, a red
(35:52):
scarf around his mouth, and along nose and a black coat, long
coat and they went up to theauthor and said, yeah, there's a
guy walking around with a black fedorahat with a red scar. He goes,
what are you talking about? That'sthe character I created, That's the
(36:15):
shadow. And the author was somuch thinking about this character that they created,
he projected it from his mind andmade an entity that was moving about
in his own home. So Ithink a lot of times too, people
(36:37):
just like a what's that character?Now? Slender Man? People now are
actually witnessing slender Man because they thinkabout it so much, And this is
something was created right off the internet, but now people are actually seeing slender
Man. So I think a lotof times people the mine is is great
(37:02):
power. And I think if theythink of an entity so much that they
can actually project it with their mind. What about what about cross crop circles?
We don't hear a lot about cropcircles anymore. We don't hear about
cattle mutilations as much as we usedto. What happened? Did the aliens
(37:23):
stop the cattle rustling business? Andwhen it comes to crop circles? Has
the has the fun in making thesecrop circles gone away? For people who
tried to perpetrate this hoax. Asfor the crop circles, there was a
crop circle recently discovered in England,I think something like almost like three weeks
(37:49):
ago so, and it was veryintricate type design. As for the cattle
mutilations, yeah, you haven't reallyheard too much about it. So maybe
possibly the actraterrestrials who are doing thesecattle mutulations, if they are maybe completeed
(38:13):
whatever they were trying to experiment onwith cows, and maybe that's why it's
you don't hear too much more aboutit. As for the crop circles,
what I can never understand is theseif these aliens are actually creating these crop
circles, why don't they just writeit off in English so we can all
(38:35):
read it and understand it. Andwhy do these puzzles and by well,
in some of them they do withbinary code, and then after they interpret
this binary code, it doesn't evenreally make sense. So I just don't
understand they're like playing a game withus or what's going on. My question
(38:58):
is why would an alien enterity wantto have anything to do with this planet?
And because we're really screwed up?Oh absolutely, And you hear about
in the past, how UFOs affectwent to Montana and shut down the nuclear
(39:20):
missiles out at Malstrom Air Force Base. Yeah, doctor Llis. And now
with all these threats from Russia andNorth Korea and China, of these nuclear
threats, will the isratrustial step inand shut it all down? That is
a very good question. And I'veasked that question to many people and nobody
(39:43):
knows that answer. Yeah. Imean, and if they have something at
state here on Earth where they havemaybe their own underground UFO basis, and
they're scared that these nuclear bombs,if they are detonated, will destroy their
(40:06):
UFO underground basis, will they stepin and say enough is enough and stop
all the nuclear threats by shutting downthose missiles. Well, maybe the underground
basis excuse me, are the followout shelters for the ets? Could be?
(40:27):
Yeah, very yeah, very wellcould be. What is the hottest
topic these days in the paranormal community, Paul. I still see just a
lot of stuff about ghosts, andI get hit up about by a lot
of ghost teams and they go,Paul, can you listen to this EVP
(40:50):
Paul, what do you think aboutthis photo? It's like, oh my
god, I get I get somebombard with this stuff and I tell them,
I said, look, just putit up on a PI international on
Facebook. I'll look at it whenI have time. But they seem like
there's still very much interested on EVPs. What is it saying? You know?
(41:13):
And this photograph do you think it'san apparition poll? You know?
It's like, I don't know.Well, a lot of these pictures that
I've seen, it's open to interpretationexactly. And like one case that I
had, as in Del Passel DelPassle Heights and this I took a picture
(41:35):
in the backyard and I got thesetwo orbs and I call them designer orbs
because they had these intricate type designsinside and they're like snowflakes. Not everything's
different with each orb. So thesetwo designer orbs, I enhanced it and
what I saw it was dog facesin the orbs. And so I went
(41:59):
back to the occupant, the client, and I said, what is it
you have in your backyard? Andshe says, well, I have orange
trees And I said, no,not the orange trees. What else do
you have in your backyard? Shegoes, I have two dogs buried back
there. I go okay. Isaid, why don't you take a look
(42:19):
at these photos and tell me whatyou see? And all of a sudden
she starts crying. I said,what are you crying about? And she
goes, those are dog faces andthose are my two dogs buried in the
backyard. Oh my gosh. Paulstand by, We've got to take our
final break. What a great story, excell Nation. Paul Dale Roberts is
(42:40):
my special guest. If you'd liketo visit Paul's Facebook page, Facebook dot
com forward slash Paul dot d Roberts. I'm sorry, Paul dot d dot
Roberts dot five four five. Thisis the X one. I am robccoddell,
and you're listening to us on theXcell and Broadcast Network XBN dot Net
(43:00):
Classic twelve twenty, CFAJ Classic twelvetwenty, dot CA and St. Catharine's
Ontario Canada Got Away the Small Newas. Lets me know that you need Eastern
(43:32):
World. It is exploding violence,flaring bullets loading. You're old enough to
kill, but not for voting.You don't believe in war bars, that
gun yet soldan and even that Jordanriver has bodies floating. But you tell
(43:54):
me old and old again, MyI you don't believe we're all the eve
of destruction. Baron Maguire's Eve ofDestruction certainly says it all. Why are
(44:14):
we on the eve of destruction?God? I hope not. This planet
is so precious and the people onthis planet are so precious that we just
have to get our thoughts, ouracts, our actions together. We've got
to stop all this turmoil. We'reall on this planet, we all bleed
red blood. To my knowledge,I could be wrong, So why don't
(44:37):
we just make things work? Forgetabout the religious strife, forget about the
differences that you know they're there,Let's respect them. I remember growing up
as a kid in Montreal where welived in Park Extension, and it was
a very multicultural area of Montreal.We had yeah, I had Greek friends,
(45:00):
had Chinese friends, I had Muslimsfriends, I had Christian friends,
I had Catholic friends, I hadJewish friends, you know, people,
friends from Italy, friends from allover the world. We got along,
We got along, and I'm tryingto remember, to the best of my
ability, where did it all go? Where did it all end? What
(45:21):
happened as a society that you know, we're creating war after war after war
after war. In my opinion,Paul, number one, get rid of
all the different to theologies. Numbertwo, get rid of all the politicians.
(45:42):
What do you think, my friend? Absolutely I agree. I thank
you. If you did that,the world will be a better place.
A lot of people still talk aboutArea fifty one, Paul, But once
again, just like with Bigfoot,just like with the all the other topics
(46:06):
we've discussed, especially alien abductions,people aren't really getting into the gist of
Area fifty one. The mainstream mediahas stopped picking up any stories about Area
fifty one. Has the fad passedaway or is it being Is the information
and talk about Area fifty one beingsuppressed? I think we just need another
(46:30):
whistle blower, and we need awhistle blower who will provide proof. So
that's your problem is you have thesewhistle blowers and they say, well I
saw this and I saw that,but they don't show any proof. Then
you have himI Mosson in Mexico,who provides well proof will these alien bodies?
(46:59):
And himI has such a bad reputationof bringing out phony stuff, fake
stuff, and these aliens are notthe typical grays that everybody describes. So
you have people like that that bringout fake stuff and then puts us back
(47:23):
on the blackboard all over again,and we've got to start all over.
It seems like at times the paranormalcommunity is a lot like a three ring
circus or what was it called theI'm going to get in trouble for this
one. But the freak shows.Yeah, you know, the fat lady,
(47:45):
the three headed goat, and soon and so forth. How is
this affecting the credibility of the UFOcommunity, the paranormal community at large?
I mean, is it provides abad light? And I mean, you
(48:07):
know, I'm retired for a departmentofficial wilelife, and I've talked to a
lot of hunters and fishermen, anda lot of hunters and fishermen have told
me stories about how they have encounteredbigfoot. Well I could go and do
like a whistle blower type thing andsay, yeah, okay, I've talked
(48:30):
to hunters at Department Official Wilelife whotold me that they saw bigfoot. I
had this one hunter who told methat his friend actually shot at a bigfoot
and it blew up into sparks.So but there's no proof. I'm just
a story that was told to methat I'm telling, but I'm not showing
(48:52):
you any proof. And that's whatthe problem is with these whistle blowers.
They tell goods stories, but whereis the proof? Whatever happened to the
whistleblowers that were at the congressional hearingsnot that long ago? Once again,
it was all big hype prior tothe prior to the hearings. After the
(49:14):
hearings, nothing exactly. I mean, you don't even hear nothing not it
now. And and also too's like, whatever happened to the metallic objects that
they shot out the sky? Theytold you about the Chinese spy balloon,
But what about that metallic object?I think it was flying over by Lake
(49:36):
Michigan that they shot out, shotdown from the sky. Did they ever
retrieve it? What was it?You don't even hear any more news about
it, you know, if it'sa matter of national security, I can
fully understand the suppression of the newsin that case, because the last thing
we wanted to do, especially inthese times, is let the people who
are not friendly to democracy and toour countries know that we do have different
(50:00):
assets and that I've been told bymembers of the military that what we see
and what we actually have are twodifferent things. And one thing rob When
I was working as a ninety sevenBravo intelligence analyst in the military Intelligence for
the US Army, and when thosesix photographs came in, and I've talked
(50:22):
about this before, when those sixphotographs of UFOs came in, in my
mind, I really wanted to scoopthem up or make copies of it and
show the public. But I wasso afraid if I did something like that,
I would wind up in the stockade, I would wind up at Fort
(50:44):
Leavenworth, Kansas. So I didn'tdo it, but I told the story,
and I guess with a lot ofwhistleblowers, it's very hard to get
that evidence because the military has sucha tight grip on you. And when
they have a tight grip on you, you just can't get away with anything.
(51:08):
What about all these military people whocome out, the astronauts that come
out and talk about these encounters andwhat they've seen. How can we truly
believe them if once again they neverbring any evidence with them, you know,
(51:30):
I You know, for example,Paul Hellier, our former Minister of
Defense, up here in Canada.He talks a mean game, but nothing,
absolutely nothing, and you know he'spassed on. And I'm certainly not
trying to, you know, topick on a person who's no longer here.
I respected a Minister Hellier, Imet him in person a number of
(51:51):
times, but I was one ofthe first ones to say, where's the
evidence. Well, there is none, exactly, And the only evidence that
I've seen, less say, withastronauts is if they get a picture,
a photograph of a UFO that's followingtheir ship, and that's about it.
(52:17):
What's your opinion on the people whoclaim that NASA closes down the links to
the ISS the live feed links tothe ISS when NASA detects a UFO in
the vicinity and it is worried thatthe ISS feed will actually pick it up,
so they shut down the feed.Oh, I absolutely believe that they
(52:39):
don't want to disclose that information.I thought we were getting close to disclosure,
but I guess I was wrong.You and everybody else, my friend,
Yeah, we thought these congressional hearingswere going to produce the smoking gun,
and that would vindicate a lot ofpeople who over the years have suffered
a lot of ridicule from skeptics andnon believers, But all that did the
(53:04):
lack of continuity and the lack ofthe the results from these democratic hearings,
congressional hearings is that it made thewhistleblowers look bad, like why do it?
Especially I forget his name, buthe would he would be asked a
question by the congressman and he'd say, well, I can't talk about it
(53:24):
in publicly could go in private?Like what's the sense in having a congressional
hearing if you are not going togive the information that the Congress wants to
hear and the and the public isdo And Rob, I have something I
want to ask you. Sure,what do you think about Haimi mass and
that Mexican journalists euphologists? Yeah?When he brought out the alien bodies,
(53:52):
Well, are you talking about thelittle bodies? Yeah, we all know
that they were from a museum.I had seen I had I had seen
those bodies. Oh my god.I've been doing the show thirty four years
about thirty years ago, and whenI saw them. I was talking to
Kevin Randall and he asked me thesame question you did. I said,
(54:13):
Kevin, I've seen these. I'veseen this before, and we it was
discovered that they were from a museum. Once again, here you have a
person who's using his place and thecredibility that he's built up within the community,
just devastating everything by perpetrating a majorhoax. And how he could not
(54:34):
know that these were exhibits from amuseum is beyond me. If I would
have been him and I thought thatthese were eighties, I would have you
know, I would have brought themto experts to do an analysis before I
went public, and you know,suckered in a great number of people.
I give him no credibility whatsoever.Absolutely, Rob, I totally agree with
(54:58):
you on that. And and alsotoo, why not have some American scientists
analyze the bodies exactly? Yeah,they don't do that. They don't do
that. They're in my opinion,there are two types of eufologists paranormal investigators
in that matter, those like yourselfwho look for answers in a in a
(55:21):
way that is methodical. You youyou preserve the evidence and you look for
answers. You look for causes,you look for effects. To me,
hats off to you, Paul.That is why I really like the work
that you do. And then you'vegot the people like Hymie. They're just
start to make the buck and justand they're doing a big disservice to the
(55:44):
members of the paranormal community, abig disservice. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's that's terrible. Paul, I'vegot a minute left, Oh a minute,
a minute? What is it?What are your final thoughts that you'd
like to share with the ex ONation tonight. Keep out and keep on
(56:05):
seeking the truth. Just go outthere and whatever you're investigating, find the
truth to what you're investigating. Letour listeners know how they can find out
more about you. Paul. Okay, I'm very easy to find. You
can bing me or you can googleme Paul Dale Roberts. And if you
(56:28):
want to see any of my books, Paul Dale Roberts books and you'll see
all type of books that I've written. Until the next time we meet,
my good friend, Please take careof yourself. My regards to your team
and to your family, and shouldanything interesting come up, Paul, give
me a call. We'll get youright on. Fantastic rob Thank you for
(56:49):
having me on the show. Ialways enjoyed doing it. You take care
of my friend exponation, Paul DaleRoberts has been my guest this hour once
again. If you'd like to findout more about Paul his web, Facebook
pages, Facebook dot com, forwardSlash, Paul dot d dot Roberts dot
five four five. I'll be backon the other side of this commercial break
(57:10):
as the xone continues with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in
studios in St. Catherines, Ontario, Canada, and you're listening to us
on the X Broadcast Network EXITBN dotnet and on Classic twelve twenty c FAJ
and Beautiful Saint Katherines, Ontario wwwdot Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Exploding
(57:31):
violence, flaring bullets loadin. You'reold enough to kill, but not for
Voden. You don't believe in morebulls that gun yet, so holden
Welcome to the X Zone, aplace where fact is fiction and fiction is
reality. Now here's your host,Rob hacconnell doing that thing bringing into a
(00:37):
million pieces. Blag you always domeans you, And welcome back to the
X and every one. I amRob McConnell, and we're coming to you
from our broadcast center in studios inSaint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on
the X Zone Broadcast Network. Andfrom this on, let me see what's
(01:00):
that you say? What? Youcan listen to us and seeing Catherines now
on AM radio. Yes, youcan on Classic twelve twenty CFAJ, and
you can listen to us and allthe great programming on CFAJ at www dot
Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Wow, what a show I have planned for
you members of the x oll Nationtonight. However, my first guest tonight
(01:23):
is the gentleman that is going totalk to us about a lot of strange
and wonderful things. He's a i'dlike to say, a friend and a
regular here on the excellent Paul DaleRoberts is joining us and he is in
Elk Grove, California. And formore information about Paul and the great stuff,
he does visit their website page atFacebook dot com, forward Slash,
(01:44):
Paul dot d dot Roberts dot fivefour five and Paul Dale Roberts. Welcome
back to the excellent old friend.How have you been? Thank you,
Rob? I love being here.So I've been doing good excellent. Yeah,
but you're a very busy you manwhen it comes to things that go
bump in the night, things thatfly in the sky, and big feet
(02:05):
that travel all over the place thatnot very many people can actually get photos
of. So what you know,let's let's go one by one. Is
there a before we went on hereyou were telling me about a very interesting
telephone call that you had just beforewe went on air. Absolutely, I
got this phone call from Elizabeth fromKCR News TV. Wow. I thought,
(02:30):
well, okay, they probably wantto follow us on an investigation or
something like that, but she saidno, she goes. I got a
call from a Darlene Pearson that livesin San Louis Obispo and she is in
desperate need of help. And Isaid, what's going on? She goes,
(02:50):
I don't know. It seems likeit's something demonic. So I gave
Darlene a call right and she saysthat every single day she like she's being
stabbed a hundred times over. AndI said, what's stabbing you? And
she says, these demons. Shesays that, excuse me, two demons
(03:16):
attack her, and they like theystab her. It's like a spiritual stab.
There's no wound or anything like that, but she's getting this feeling of
being stabbed, and they actually,she says, that they sexually assault her.
So she said, on one particularnight, she saw a black hole
(03:43):
open up in the living room andtwo skinny entities and then they look like
men came out of the hole andthen just disappeared in the shadows. So
she says, Paul, She goes, can you get down here. I'll
pay for your ass and everything else. And it's by Monterey, California.
(04:04):
And I'm just right now so bookedup with so many other little things.
I just don't see myself going downthere. But I told her what she
could do is self bless her house. And she says, Okay, how
do I go about that? Isaid, well, go to a dollar
(04:24):
tree store, pick up a bunchof angel figurines, go to your nearest
Catholic church, and in the lobby. They have holy water. Dip each
angel into the holy water and saya protection prayer over each angel, and
place those angels around open places aroundyour house, like the windows and the
(04:47):
doorways, and then step in themiddle of the house and say it protection
prayer as if you mean it,and ask for God's angels to protect you.
So she's going to do that.I got her in touch with San
Luis Obiscoo paranormal group also so shecould be visited and be consulted by them,
(05:09):
and also to being the location scoutfor Ghost of Ventures. I contacted
Justin West who works for a Ghostof Ventures, and they are very excited
about it and may do a Ghostof Adventures house call at that residence.
How frequently are people experiencing demonic demonicainterference or the forces of evil attacking them
(05:39):
like this lady has? Is itmore popular these days? Paul? For
a while there I was again ina demonic case, one after another,
and in fact there was again somany they gave me the nickname the demon
Wawyer. So I know how todo a Roman Catholic house blessing on a
(06:00):
home, and I also to givethem a full submersion baptism if they have
an attachment. And I say,let's say a couple of years ago.
In one year, I got somethinglike I would say about twelve demonic cases.
Wow. Yeah, and some ofthem rob are just really really crazy
(06:23):
and it could be a mental issue. We had a demonic case in Berkeley
and when we got there, itwas a hoarder's house and they were saying
that the demon was making them hoardall this crap. And what was really
(06:45):
unsettling is that they actually took outthe toilets out of their bathroom and placed
them in the garage and they weredoing their stuff in the garage and an
out for this couple would go tothe gas station to utilize the restroom.
And yeah, it was crazy.And now, Paul, let me just
(07:10):
ask you a question here at thispoint, my friend, how do you
judge whether these people are actually havingthese experiences or if there are mental issues.
Well, we at one time HPIdid have a psychiatrist on the team,
(07:30):
and they moved away and there's somewhereI think, like in Tennessee or
someplace like that, so we lostthem. But she would sit there and
try to determine if it's a mentalissue or if it's something demonic. What
I will do is, nevertheless,I will still bless her house. If
they feel like they have an attachment, I'll do a full submersion baptism.
(07:56):
And in a lot of cases Iwould say I was like eighty percent successful
where I actually have people contact me. The clients contact me and say,
Paul, the attachment's gun. Yourbaptism worked, or your self blessing work
and stuff like that. And Imean the blessing of the house because I
(08:16):
do a Roman Catholic house blessing.But what happens if somebody is not Roman
Catholic. Well, then we hadother members who were Buddha, Hindu,
Protestant. Yeah, we had wehad all the different religions covered, even
(08:39):
American Native Americans. So right nowwe don't have it fully covered like that.
But what I try to do is, like recently, we had an
investigation and the guy was Hindu.So what I did was I just started
reading some books on different type ofblessings that Hindu do and he was familiar
(09:07):
with it too, so he kindof walked me through it. So I
just did like a Hindu type cleansing. It's kind of a tongue twister Hindu
Hindu do Yeah? Why why is? Why is? Why are the demon
attacks becoming more frequent? Paul?Do you have any idea is there a
connection between the demonic presence and etpresence? There's a possibility, because I
(09:35):
do think demons could be extra crustalor from other dimensions. They're definitely not
trustral. They weren't born on Earth, and if you believe anything about fallen
angels, that would make them extratrustral. So I do think there's some
(09:58):
type of presence here which is tryingto destroy mankind, and that's your demonic
force wherever they come from. Whatdo you think, Why do you think
they're trying to destroy mankind? Whatis there? What is their mission?
You know? Is it that theywanted to reclaim the earth for themselves or
(10:18):
is this the fight between good andevil talked about in the Apocalypse? Exactly,
good and evil. There's always goingto be a fight between good and
evil. I mean, look atit now. Just we have situations with
North Korea, China, Taiwan,Iran, the Hamas versus the Israelites.
(10:45):
I mean it's just, yeah,it'll always be like that. If you
look at your old texts. Let'ssay from Nurremberg, Germany, back in
the fifteenth century, people are lookingup in the sky and seeing these UFOs
fighting each other, cigar shaped UFOs, globe shape UFOs, trianglar shape UFOs
(11:09):
fighting in the sky. So there'sdefinitely something going on, and I think
it all has to do with control. There's entbs out there that want to
control Earth and want to control mankind. Paul, there's talking now with those
(11:30):
who are looking at quantum physics foranswers that are saying that we live in
a holographic existence, that everything wesee here feel is not real. What
is your take on that? Thatis really mystifying. I kind of believe
(11:54):
something like that could exist, thatwe're like in some type of matrix type
equation. Yeah, it's very possible. It's very possible to what we consider
as gods and stuff like that createdthe whole universe, and yeah, we
could be living in a holographic typereality. Yeah, there's no telling.
(12:20):
I mean, if you're like afifth step civilization, so your your your
your civilization has so much knowledge andintelligence that you're practically considered as a god.
So and they have the let's say, have the power to create a
(12:43):
whole universe and and watch us undera microscope. Reminds me of the Superman
cartoon comic books where they used towhere he used to have these cities and
these giants in these giant sized glassand and everybody within these glass containers thought
they were actually in their own littleworld. Absolutely. I remember that.
(13:07):
I used to read comic books,and I was in the comic book industry,
so yeah, I know what you'retalking about. Paul Dale Roberts is
my very special guest of the Stylerex oone Nation. If you'd like to
find out more about Paul, visithis Facebook site at that is all right,
you've got your pencils on paper,but I don't want you to go
there right now. Paul's with us. He's going to be with us for
the next forty five minutes. HisFacebook pages, Facebook, dot com,
(13:31):
forward Slash, Paul dot d dotRoberts dot five four five. This is
the Xzone and I'm Rob McConnell.We're coming to you from our broadcast center
and studios in St. Catherine's,Ontario, Canada, on the ixone broadcast
network at sexedbn dot net and onClassic twelve twenty CFAJ www dot Classic twelve
(13:52):
twenty dot CA. We'll be backon the other side of the short break.
Don't go away. H m hm hmmm. On love. Paul
(14:52):
deel Roberts is my special guest.This our exhonation, and we're coming to
you on the excellent broadcast network Xi'd ben dot net and on twelve twenty
Classic twelve twenty that is Classic twelvetwenty CFAJ. Here in Saint Catharine's www
dot Classic twelve twenty dot CA.Paul, I understand that you've got some
(15:13):
news or something to tell us aboutthe USS Nimics event. Absolutely. My
ex brother in law, Robert Mitchell, actually served on the USS Nimics and
I did an investigation one time onthe USS Hornet and the USS Hornet is
very, very haunted. There's alot of ghostly activity on that ship.
(15:39):
So I asked Robert, my exbrother in law, the USS Nimics would
be haunted, and to my surprise, he said yes absolutely. I said,
now, why would the USS Nimusbe haunted? And he told me
(16:00):
that at one time a serial killernamed John Eric Armstrong actually served on the
USS Nimets. Wow. Yeah,and when they would go to different ports.
It's very possible he was killing prostitutesat different ports. And some of
(16:25):
the servicemen on the uss Nimets weresaying that there is seen there would be
a woman apparition that would appear onthe ship and she looks like she's weeping,
crying, and in very much distress. And possibly that could be a
victim of the serial killer John EricArmstrong that served on the cuss Nimets And
(16:52):
what possibly could have happened at someport He could have possibly killed her and
her spirit followed him on the ship. Why would her spirit follow him onto
the ship. I thought that theghost would remain in the area where she
was murdered. It's very possible.But if he had taken something that belonged
(17:17):
to her that she's cherish, herenergy is around her energy filled is around
that object. She can now gofrom point A to point B. And
we've had a lot of situations likethat, like this lady. She went
to a nantique store and she boughta grandfather's clock, brought it back to
(17:37):
her house, and all of asudden, her house is haunted. Cabinets
are opening, dishes are flying off, the kitchen shelf, forks and spoons
fall to the floor. She hearsfootsteps, and there was a parapsychologist that
visitor and said, you probably needto get rid of that antique grandfather's clock.
(18:02):
So she returned it back to theantique shop and the haunting stopped.
So I'm thinking that possibly this JohnEric Armstrong, the serial killer, probably
took something of value from this ladyof the night and brought it back on
the ship, causing her to hauntthe ship and haunt John Eric and other
(18:29):
servicemen also too. He was knownto have killed two people in Seattle,
and one of them was a transAnd so with these people that he killed,
is possibly there's a possible chance thathe killed other people at different ports.
(18:52):
Another thing that happened on the ussNimates They had a plane crash on
the USS Nimets and fourteen servicemen werekilled. All right, I think we
should we should let her remind ourlisteners that the USS Nemets is an aircraft
carrier, right, isn't it attacknuclear powered warship And and some servicemen,
(19:15):
including Robert, have seen faces appearon reflective surfaces of these fourteen dead servicemen
that die because of that plane crash. And another unique thing about the US
nemets is that they also too,that's where they saw the tic tac Ufo
(19:40):
incident off San Diego. You know, having gone through a number of wars,
there must be other other military assetsthat are haunted. To your knowledge,
are there many assets, for example, aircraft carriers, planes, destroyers,
(20:00):
subs that are haunted? You know, Rob Like I was twelve years
in the army, and every militaryinstallation is haunted. And the reason why
because there are servicemen who commit suicide, There's servicemen who died in accidental training
(20:21):
accidents. There's murders on different facilities, government facilities. So yeah, there's
stories of aircraft that are haunted.There's stories of tanks that are actually haunted.
(20:44):
Ghosts are seen on these tanks andeverything else. So with the military,
there's a lot of deaths, andwhen you have a lot of deaths,
you're going to get some hauntings.Paul tell our listeners, you're your
story about how you got into investigatingthe paranormal. Oh and that was on
(21:07):
every street in Fresville, California.I was just a little child and the
entities in that home. That housewas haunted. The entities were centered on
me and the story. It soundscrazy, but this is what I experienced
as a little boy, and Iwanted to know if these were childhood nightmares
(21:33):
or did I really witness the paranormaland the things that happened to me.
I had an entity pushed me intothe heater, burning my leg I was
being enticed by a female voice thatsounded like my mother in the orange grove.
As I was looking out the bedroomwindow, I heard a female which
(21:57):
sounded like my mother, mimicking mymother saying, Dale, come here,
Dale, come here. It wastrying to entice me to go in that
orange grove, and I didn't doit. I went into the kitchen and
there was my mother. So Ihad that incident happen. And another crazy
(22:17):
incident was these things that looked likeskulls that had wings that would fly into
my bedroom, terrorizing. Yeah.And the craziest, craziest thing was I
heard what sounded like rolling wheels comingdown this sidewalk to my bedroom window.
(22:37):
My bedroom window opens halfway here comesthis black tea kettle type thing that has
a snout. The snout turns towardsme and blows out these fumes. I
start hacking and coffin. My mothercomes in thinking that she's given me cough
syrup, but actually gave me ateaspoon of poison. When she realized what
(23:04):
she did, she was like intotal shock. She rushed me into the
bathroom and made me vomit. Shewas sticking her fingers in my mouth and
making me vomit. So I thinkthis entity was actually trying to kill me.
When we moved down of that house, I was not terrorized by any
(23:26):
more entities. But as I gotolder, I started reading books about the
paranormal. I wanted to know ifthose were nightmares or was it something really
paranormal. So that's how I gotinto the paranormal. Paul, why is
it some people like yourself are soopen to the paranormal events and other people
(23:51):
they live their entire lives without evenseeing or having the impression that they're being
followed by a ghost or seeing aUFO, seeing sasquatch? What is it
in people like you and other peoplethat I've had on the show over the
many years that I've been doing it, who have this gift to actually see
(24:12):
and be involved in the paranormal.Well, I think everybody is psychic from
age one to eight, because afterwhen I turned like nine years old stuff
like that, I wasn't seeing anythingparanormal. It was it was all over
with. It was. But somepeople maintain it and they had that psychic
(24:37):
ability. If I interviewed about tenpeople, about eight people seems like I
had a paranormal experience and two peopledidn't. So, because I'm always when
I talk to different people, that'sone of the things I always ask them,
have you ever experienced anything paranormal?Because they know I'm a paranormal investigator.
(25:00):
So and usually they'll say something,yes, I saw a UFO or
yes I saw a ghost one timein the cemetery. So and I've been
on something like twenty five hundred investigationsand I've only seen four full body apparitions.
So that's a rarity. That's somethingthat doesn't happen very often. So
(25:26):
I don't know. Speaking about paranormalinvestigations, you have these places that are
renowned for being haunted wavefully for example, why do these spirits remain there?
Are they do? They like?The interaction with the paranormal investigators that go
there is this kind of a gamefor them or is it just that they
(25:49):
can't move on they're stuck within thatwithin those four walls. From my investigations,
this is what I've observed. Someentities don't want to go into the
light. When they go into thelight, that's it. You never see
them again. But they don't wantto go into the light because let's say
they had religious beliefs, They've donesomething sinful in their life, and they
(26:15):
feel if they go into the light, they're going to be judged. So
they have that opportunity of not goinginto the light and they rather remain out
of the light because they're scared they'regoing to be judged. Then there's entities
who have unfinished business. They don'tgo into the light because let's say the
(26:37):
grandmother sees that her granddaughters having ababy, while she wants to stick around
and be an angel to that baby, so she doesn't go into the light.
So that's some of the reasons whyI've seen that entities don't go into
the light. We just got acall on this one house and it's over
(27:02):
one hundred years old, and there'sentities in that house that lived there before,
and the reason why they kind ofstick around is because they enjoy that
house. They have stuff still inthat house, and they stick around just
to kind of protect that house.Fascinating. When we come back, you
(27:26):
were from this break, you weresaying that the grandmother wants, you know,
possibly a grandmother wants to remain onthis side of the light because of
her granddaughter having a baby, andonce the baby is born, she becomes
an angel for the baby. DidI understand that right? Correct? Okay,
when we come back, let's let'slook at that, because I thought
(27:48):
angels were could not be or werenot people entities. Oh no, no,
no, Rob No, I'm justsaying, oh I see angels to
the baby. Non a natural angel. Ah. Okay, stand by my
friend. You and I have totake our break for this hour. X
(28:11):
O Nation. Our guest this houris Paul Dale Roberts, and we'll be
back on the other side of thisvery short break as the X Zone continues
right here on the XON Broadcast Networkwww dot XNBN dot net and Classic twelve
twenty c f A J and St. Catherines, Ontario www dot Classic twelve
twenty dot ca A. It's amazinghow you can speak grand to my heart
(29:15):
With that same word, you canlight up the dog trys on me.
I can or speaking why I came? When you don't say thing, the
(29:40):
small face, lean and welcome backto everyone. This is the excellent.
I am Rob McConnell. Paul dealRoberts is my special guest and his Facebook
page is facebook dot com forward slashPaul dot d dot Roberts dot five four
five. Yeah, I'm I'm sorry, Paul. I thought that you were
(30:02):
saying that, you know, somebodywho doesn't go to the light can actually
stay on this side and become anangel. That's what I thought you were
getting at. So that angel storywas just an analogy, exactly, gotcha,
got ya, Paul. You youtravel all over the place. I
understand that you've also been to that'sarea fifty one, Skinwalker Ranch. What
(30:30):
what have you discovered about Skinwalker Ranch? Because everybody talks about it these days,
right, I've been to like fiftynine countries, and now that I'm
retired, I haven't really been travelingvery much, so it's like the travel
bug is gone. Yeah. Butbut Skinwalker Ranch when I went there,
(30:56):
I was hoping to camp out therefor seven days, and I didn't go
to the actual Skinwalker Ranch, butI went to the valley where Skinwalker Ranch
was, and the whole valley hasparanormal activity. So when we arrived,
this big storm hit the area andwe were trying to set up the tents,
(31:22):
I was falling into the mud andeverything else. I had two investigators
with me, and the two thingsthat we experienced that was kind of unnatural
is this the sky seemed like itwould kind of opened up a little bit,
and there was this energy ball balllightning. I've never seen ball lightning
(31:48):
in my life, and it shotdown, hit the ground and exploded.
And the next thing that happened iswe heard this strain screeching sound. And
I'm retired from the Department Official Wildlife, so I'm very familiar with various type
(32:09):
of animal noises, and that wassomething like I've never heard before. And
I had the recorder on, butthe rain was so heavy all you could
hear was the pitter pattern of therain. The next day, one of
the investigators had pneumonia and that cutthe whole trip short. So from Utah
(32:36):
back to California. Brought her backto California because she was so ill and
that was my adventure at Skinwalker Ranchand experiencing those two things. Based on
what you've learned about Skinwalker Ranch,why is it so? Why is it
(32:59):
so filled with with all these differentparanormal activities, the sightings of different cryptids,
UFO and omalis. What do youthink the reason is? Paul,
I believe that Skinwalker Ranch is ona lay line, and a lay line
is an energized area, which seemslike it attracts UFOs and UAPs because it's
(33:24):
sort of like a fueling station.They can gas up with this energy,
and that energy can possibly cause portals. I mean dogs for some Reis is
so excited. Yeah, I havethat effect on dogs and women, So
don't worry about so Anyway, theyhad a situation where one of the investigators
(33:52):
before the investigators that you see nowon the History Channel Bigelow's group, one
of the scientists said that he sawa portal in the sky open up and
from that portal, a bigfoot typecreature came out of that portal and scurried
off. So there is something definitelygoing on over a Skinwalker Ranch with the
(34:19):
UFO activity, and I think it'sall connected. You had the poultrygeist activity.
You had something that looked like adire wolf that they shot at and
it walked away. The UFO activitythings. UFO is going into the mesa
and coming out of the mesa.I mean, yeah, I believe it's
(34:42):
all connected, and it has todo with something like a lay line,
because you seem like wherever there's laylines like stone hinch, I've been a
stone hinge and stonehenge attracts UFOs,cross circles and everything else. Ghostly activity.
People see ghosts and shadow people.So yeah, I think it's all
(35:07):
connected. But a lot of thesesightings, Paul, I think you would
agree are self manifested by the peoplewho go there expecting something to happen.
Something does happen. That you getthe Paradoli effect and they truly believe they're
having a paranormal experience when they actuallyaren't. Or also too okay, people
(35:30):
can produce a tulpa and the authorof the shadow like only the shadow knows,
right. Yeah. Yeah, Hisfriends and family were going into his
home and they would see this characterwith a black fedora hat, a red
(35:52):
scarf around his mouth, and along nose and a black coat, long
coat and they went up to theauthor and said, yeah, there's a
guy walking around with a black fedorahat with a red scar. He goes,
what are you talking about? That'sthe character I created, That's the
(36:15):
shadow. And the author was somuch thinking about this character that they created,
he projected it from his mind andmade an entity that was moving about
in his own home. So Ithink a lot of times too, people
(36:37):
just like a what's that character?Now? Slender Man? People now are
actually witnessing slender Man because they thinkabout it so much, And this is
something was created right off the internet, but now people are actually seeing slender
Man. So I think a lotof times people the mine is is great
(37:02):
power. And I think if theythink of an entity so much that they
can actually project it with their mind. What about what about cross crop circles?
We don't hear a lot about cropcircles anymore. We don't hear about
cattle mutilations as much as we usedto. What happened? Did the aliens
(37:23):
stop the cattle rustling business? Andwhen it comes to crop circles? Has
the has the fun in making thesecrop circles gone away? For people who
tried to perpetrate this hoax. Asfor the crop circles, there was a
crop circle recently discovered in England,I think something like almost like three weeks
(37:49):
ago so, and it was veryintricate type design. As for the cattle
mutilations, yeah, you haven't reallyheard too much about it. So maybe
possibly the actraterrestrials who are doing thesecattle mutulations, if they are maybe completeed
(38:13):
whatever they were trying to experiment onwith cows, and maybe that's why it's
you don't hear too much more aboutit. As for the crop circles,
what I can never understand is theseif these aliens are actually creating these crop
circles, why don't they just writeit off in English so we can all
(38:35):
read it and understand it. Andwhy do these puzzles and by well,
in some of them they do withbinary code, and then after they interpret
this binary code, it doesn't evenreally make sense. So I just don't
understand they're like playing a game withus or what's going on. My question
(38:58):
is why would an alien enterity wantto have anything to do with this planet?
And because we're really screwed up?Oh absolutely, And you hear about
in the past, how UFOs affectwent to Montana and shut down the nuclear
(39:20):
missiles out at Malstrom Air Force Base. Yeah, doctor Llis. And now
with all these threats from Russia andNorth Korea and China, of these nuclear
threats, will the isratrustial step inand shut it all down? That is
a very good question. And I'veasked that question to many people and nobody
(39:43):
knows that answer. Yeah. Imean, and if they have something at
state here on Earth where they havemaybe their own underground UFO basis, and
they're scared that these nuclear bombs,if they are detonated, will destroy their
(40:06):
UFO underground basis, will they stepin and say enough is enough and stop
all the nuclear threats by shutting downthose missiles. Well, maybe the underground
basis excuse me, are the followout shelters for the ets? Could be?
(40:27):
Yeah, very yeah, very wellcould be. What is the hottest
topic these days in the paranormal community, Paul. I still see just a
lot of stuff about ghosts, andI get hit up about by a lot
of ghost teams and they go,Paul, can you listen to this EVP
(40:50):
Paul, what do you think aboutthis photo? It's like, oh my
god, I get I get somebombard with this stuff and I tell them,
I said, look, just putit up on a PI international on
Facebook. I'll look at it whenI have time. But they seem like
there's still very much interested on EVPs. What is it saying? You know?
(41:13):
And this photograph do you think it'san apparition poll? You know?
It's like, I don't know.Well, a lot of these pictures that
I've seen, it's open to interpretationexactly. And like one case that I
had, as in Del Passel DelPassle Heights and this I took a picture
(41:35):
in the backyard and I got thesetwo orbs and I call them designer orbs
because they had these intricate type designsinside and they're like snowflakes. Not everything's
different with each orb. So thesetwo designer orbs, I enhanced it and
what I saw it was dog facesin the orbs. And so I went
(41:59):
back to the occupant, the client, and I said, what is it
you have in your backyard? Andshe says, well, I have orange
trees And I said, no,not the orange trees. What else do
you have in your backyard? Shegoes, I have two dogs buried back
there. I go okay. Isaid, why don't you take a look
(42:19):
at these photos and tell me whatyou see? And all of a sudden
she starts crying. I said,what are you crying about? And she
goes, those are dog faces andthose are my two dogs buried in the
backyard. Oh my gosh. Paulstand by, We've got to take our
final break. What a great story, excell Nation. Paul Dale Roberts is
(42:40):
my special guest. If you'd liketo visit Paul's Facebook page, Facebook dot
com forward slash Paul dot d Roberts. I'm sorry, Paul dot d dot
Roberts dot five four five. Thisis the X one. I am robccoddell,
and you're listening to us on theXcell and Broadcast Network XBN dot Net
(43:00):
Classic twelve twenty, CFAJ Classic twelvetwenty, dot CA and St. Catharine's
Ontario Canada Got Away the Small Newas. Lets me know that you need Eastern
(43:32):
World. It is exploding violence,flaring bullets loading. You're old enough to
kill, but not for voting.You don't believe in war bars, that
gun yet soldan and even that Jordanriver has bodies floating. But you tell
(43:54):
me old and old again, MyI you don't believe we're all the eve
of destruction. Baron Maguire's Eve ofDestruction certainly says it all. Why are
(44:14):
we on the eve of destruction?God? I hope not. This planet
is so precious and the people onthis planet are so precious that we just
have to get our thoughts, ouracts, our actions together. We've got
to stop all this turmoil. We'reall on this planet, we all bleed
red blood. To my knowledge,I could be wrong, So why don't
(44:37):
we just make things work? Forgetabout the religious strife, forget about the
differences that you know they're there,Let's respect them. I remember growing up
as a kid in Montreal where welived in Park Extension, and it was
a very multicultural area of Montreal.We had yeah, I had Greek friends,
(45:00):
had Chinese friends, I had Muslimsfriends, I had Christian friends,
I had Catholic friends, I hadJewish friends, you know, people,
friends from Italy, friends from allover the world. We got along,
We got along, and I'm tryingto remember, to the best of my
ability, where did it all go? Where did it all end? What
(45:21):
happened as a society that you know, we're creating war after war after war
after war. In my opinion,Paul, number one, get rid of
all the different to theologies. Numbertwo, get rid of all the politicians.
(45:42):
What do you think, my friend? Absolutely I agree. I thank
you. If you did that,the world will be a better place.
A lot of people still talk aboutArea fifty one, Paul, But once
again, just like with Bigfoot,just like with the all the other topics
(46:06):
we've discussed, especially alien abductions,people aren't really getting into the gist of
Area fifty one. The mainstream mediahas stopped picking up any stories about Area
fifty one. Has the fad passedaway or is it being Is the information
and talk about Area fifty one beingsuppressed? I think we just need another
(46:30):
whistle blower, and we need awhistle blower who will provide proof. So
that's your problem is you have thesewhistle blowers and they say, well I
saw this and I saw that,but they don't show any proof. Then
you have himI Mosson in Mexico,who provides well proof will these alien bodies?
(46:59):
And himI has such a bad reputationof bringing out phony stuff, fake
stuff, and these aliens are notthe typical grays that everybody describes. So
you have people like that that bringout fake stuff and then puts us back
(47:23):
on the blackboard all over again,and we've got to start all over.
It seems like at times the paranormalcommunity is a lot like a three ring
circus or what was it called theI'm going to get in trouble for this
one. But the freak shows.Yeah, you know, the fat lady,
(47:45):
the three headed goat, and soon and so forth. How is
this affecting the credibility of the UFOcommunity, the paranormal community at large?
I mean, is it provides abad light? And I mean, you
(48:07):
know, I'm retired for a departmentofficial wilelife, and I've talked to a
lot of hunters and fishermen, anda lot of hunters and fishermen have told
me stories about how they have encounteredbigfoot. Well I could go and do
like a whistle blower type thing andsay, yeah, okay, I've talked
(48:30):
to hunters at Department Official Wilelife whotold me that they saw bigfoot. I
had this one hunter who told methat his friend actually shot at a bigfoot
and it blew up into sparks.So but there's no proof. I'm just
a story that was told to methat I'm telling, but I'm not showing
(48:52):
you any proof. And that's whatthe problem is with these whistle blowers.
They tell goods stories, but whereis the proof? Whatever happened to the
whistleblowers that were at the congressional hearingsnot that long ago? Once again,
it was all big hype prior tothe prior to the hearings. After the
(49:14):
hearings, nothing exactly. I mean, you don't even hear nothing not it
now. And and also too's like, whatever happened to the metallic objects that
they shot out the sky? Theytold you about the Chinese spy balloon,
But what about that metallic object?I think it was flying over by Lake
(49:36):
Michigan that they shot out, shotdown from the sky. Did they ever
retrieve it? What was it?You don't even hear any more news about
it, you know, if it'sa matter of national security, I can
fully understand the suppression of the newsin that case, because the last thing
we wanted to do, especially inthese times, is let the people who
are not friendly to democracy and toour countries know that we do have different
(50:00):
assets and that I've been told bymembers of the military that what we see
and what we actually have are twodifferent things. And one thing rob When
I was working as a ninety sevenBravo intelligence analyst in the military Intelligence for
the US Army, and when thosesix photographs came in, and I've talked
(50:22):
about this before, when those sixphotographs of UFOs came in, in my
mind, I really wanted to scoopthem up or make copies of it and
show the public. But I wasso afraid if I did something like that,
I would wind up in the stockade, I would wind up at Fort
(50:44):
Leavenworth, Kansas. So I didn'tdo it, but I told the story,
and I guess with a lot ofwhistleblowers, it's very hard to get
that evidence because the military has sucha tight grip on you. And when
they have a tight grip on you, you just can't get away with anything.
(51:08):
What about all these military people whocome out, the astronauts that come
out and talk about these encounters andwhat they've seen. How can we truly
believe them if once again they neverbring any evidence with them, you know,
(51:30):
I You know, for example,Paul Hellier, our former Minister of
Defense, up here in Canada.He talks a mean game, but nothing,
absolutely nothing, and you know he'spassed on. And I'm certainly not
trying to, you know, topick on a person who's no longer here.
I respected a Minister Hellier, Imet him in person a number of
(51:51):
times, but I was one ofthe first ones to say, where's the
evidence. Well, there is none, exactly, And the only evidence that
I've seen, less say, withastronauts is if they get a picture,
a photograph of a UFO that's followingtheir ship, and that's about it.
(52:17):
What's your opinion on the people whoclaim that NASA closes down the links to
the ISS the live feed links tothe ISS when NASA detects a UFO in
the vicinity and it is worried thatthe ISS feed will actually pick it up,
so they shut down the feed.Oh, I absolutely believe that they
(52:39):
don't want to disclose that information.I thought we were getting close to disclosure,
but I guess I was wrong.You and everybody else, my friend,
Yeah, we thought these congressional hearingswere going to produce the smoking gun,
and that would vindicate a lot ofpeople who over the years have suffered
a lot of ridicule from skeptics andnon believers, But all that did the
(53:04):
lack of continuity and the lack ofthe the results from these democratic hearings,
congressional hearings is that it made thewhistleblowers look bad, like why do it?
Especially I forget his name, buthe would he would be asked a
question by the congressman and he'd say, well, I can't talk about it
(53:24):
in publicly could go in private?Like what's the sense in having a congressional
hearing if you are not going togive the information that the Congress wants to
hear and the and the public isdo And Rob, I have something I
want to ask you. Sure,what do you think about Haimi mass and
that Mexican journalists euphologists? Yeah?When he brought out the alien bodies,
(53:52):
Well, are you talking about thelittle bodies? Yeah, we all know
that they were from a museum.I had seen I had I had seen
those bodies. Oh my god.I've been doing the show thirty four years
about thirty years ago, and whenI saw them. I was talking to
Kevin Randall and he asked me thesame question you did. I said,
(54:13):
Kevin, I've seen these. I'veseen this before, and we it was
discovered that they were from a museum. Once again, here you have a
person who's using his place and thecredibility that he's built up within the community,
just devastating everything by perpetrating a majorhoax. And how he could not
(54:34):
know that these were exhibits from amuseum is beyond me. If I would
have been him and I thought thatthese were eighties, I would have you
know, I would have brought themto experts to do an analysis before I
went public, and you know,suckered in a great number of people.
I give him no credibility whatsoever.Absolutely, Rob, I totally agree with
(54:58):
you on that. And and alsotoo, why not have some American scientists
analyze the bodies exactly? Yeah,they don't do that. They don't do
that. They're in my opinion,there are two types of eufologists paranormal investigators
in that matter, those like yourselfwho look for answers in a in a
(55:21):
way that is methodical. You youyou preserve the evidence and you look for
answers. You look for causes,you look for effects. To me,
hats off to you, Paul.That is why I really like the work
that you do. And then you'vegot the people like Hymie. They're just
start to make the buck and justand they're doing a big disservice to the
(55:44):
members of the paranormal community, abig disservice. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's that's terrible. Paul, I'vegot a minute left, Oh a minute,
a minute? What is it?What are your final thoughts that you'd
like to share with the ex ONation tonight. Keep out and keep on
(56:05):
seeking the truth. Just go outthere and whatever you're investigating, find the
truth to what you're investigating. Letour listeners know how they can find out
more about you. Paul. Okay, I'm very easy to find. You
can bing me or you can googleme Paul Dale Roberts. And if you
(56:28):
want to see any of my books, Paul Dale Roberts books and you'll see
all type of books that I've written. Until the next time we meet,
my good friend, Please take careof yourself. My regards to your team
and to your family, and shouldanything interesting come up, Paul, give
me a call. We'll get youright on. Fantastic rob Thank you for
(56:49):
having me on the show. Ialways enjoyed doing it. You take care
of my friend exponation, Paul DaleRoberts has been my guest this hour once
again. If you'd like to findout more about Paul his web, Facebook
pages, Facebook dot com, forwardSlash, Paul dot d dot Roberts dot
five four five. I'll be backon the other side of this commercial break
(57:10):
as the xone continues with yours truly, Rob McConnell from our broadcast center in
studios in St. Catherines, Ontario, Canada, and you're listening to us
on the X Broadcast Network EXITBN dotnet and on Classic twelve twenty c FAJ
and Beautiful Saint Katherines, Ontario wwwdot Classic twelve twenty dot CA. Exploding
(57:31):
violence, flaring bullets loadin. You'reold enough to kill, but not for
Voden. You don't believe in morebulls that gun yet, so holden
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.