May 13, 2025 • 28 mins
He called into the 100th edtion of the BMP. Big Moe Barrett and Andy Nagel talk to the Hit King. A ten minute interview turned into 28 minutes of pure gold
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got a big more podcast, the one hundredth edition
of the Big MO Podcast. And when Tommy Gregory and
Andy Nagele and I were like, who can we get,
Give me somebody that's just going to be like a
big time And when I think Cincinnati, I think big time.
I think Peter Edward Rose. Pete, you're calling in from
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Las Vegas. Thanks for joining us on the Big MO Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well that's my pleasure. Actually I'm sitting here watching the Reds.
One Hunter greens fitsch in today and no score after
in the second inning, So the Reds still have a
good shout at the wild Card and all we can
do is hope they quick go down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It was awesome ripe of About a hour before first
pitch today, David Bell called in. He's a Muller lum
and called into the Big Mo Podcast in ninety grad
and you could just tell Pete listening to his voice,
that there was I don't want to say some weight
off his shoulders, but you know more than I do
being a Cincinnati guy. All the talking heads were talking
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about this team would do nothing. David Bell had no roster,
he had no dudes. I mean, if you're David Bell,
how good whether you get into the playoffs or not.
How proud do you have to be to be David
Bell in the position he's in right now with what
he's done with this club.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, I don't think any manager should ever be happy
because his team played well and they didn't make the playoffs.
The way the playoff structure is today, you really don't
have to be that good of a team to make
the playoffs. So the resident had a lot of surprising
young players played good this year. You know who they are,
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and I think it would be a complete failure if
they don't make the playoffs. I really do, because tell
at one time they had an eight or nine game
league a couple months and months and a half ago.
So they haven't played when they needed to play well.
And is that a reflection on the manager, I don't know.
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Is it a reflection on the players? Probably, you know,
because players have to understand it's one hundred and sixty
two game schedule and you've got to somehow contribute something
every day for one hundred and sixty two days. And
that's why guys have good years, bad years, off years,
so so years. That's just the way it is. But
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they've had some really good years, some guys that were unexpected.
And when you get guys like that, all the teams
are baland for playoffs. Right now. Have guys that are
surprisingly having good years this year, and the Reds are
in that category.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Two.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They have two or three guys that are having career
type of years. And when you have careers type years,
what do you expect to do? You expect to win.
They've had some pitching injuries, everybody does. Everybody does, but
they got some great prospects pitching prospects, got some great
everyday type player prospects, and they've had a good year
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so far. But they're only a game out of the playoffs.
So now you've got to put the uh, put the
pedal to the medal, and close this thing out. That's
why I look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Pete, I want to switch gears. I was driving to
a Molar game the other night over on the West Side,
and I passed Boldface Park and and it just if
I'm not mistaken that that's kind of that was your
That's where you grew up right again, bold Face Park
over off River Road.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
When I was a kid, right down there on River Road.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Pete I want to ask you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I asked I asked Buddy Bill this the other day
on an interview, and I'm going to ask you right now.
Today's kids now they want everything at the palm of
their hand. They want instant gratification. It's all about social
media and less about hard work. When I think hard work,
I think West Side guys. I'm from the West Side myself.
I think I think blue collar lunch pale. It wasn't sexy.
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What would be your message to kids nowadays? You know
what they're like, Pete, you see them all the time.
What would be your message to a parent or one
of these young.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, I'd be a great prospect if I was growing
up today. And that's simply the way I played the game.
You know. I was a kick ass type player, worked
hard every day, worked on my craft, spent more time
in the batting case than anybody else. Used to play
down a Bullface Park, and we had a good high
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school to play baseball at. I think that's why eleven
or twelve Major leaguers come from Western Hills High School.
And most of those guys are from you know, the
Western Hills area or down in bull Face and Aarison
Ferry and Saylor Parking places like that because we played
the game very seriously and we enjoyed playing the game.
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And if you don't enjoy playing a game, don't waste
your time to play the game. Because baseball takes a
lot of game, a lot of practice to become a
good player. And the availability is there for players. Do
you want that availability? That's the difference. Some guys do
and some guys don't. Some guys cruise when they get
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to the big leagues, other guys don't. I want the
guys who don't cruise once they make the big leagues.
I always thought, I still do. The hardest thing in
the world is not making the big leagues. The hardest
thing in the world is staying in the big leagues
for a length of time. You know, I made the
big leagues, but then I stayed in the big league
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for twenty four years. You know a lot of guys
that they make the big leagues and after two years
are sent back to the minor league because they quit
working hard. You know, once you get to take to
being a big leaguer, you'll understand what I'm saying and
try to figure out what it is. And it's not
rocket science talking about here. You can make a lot
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of money at baseball today, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But you got Eddie Brinkman, Jim Boyle, Hermwie Meyer, Art Mahafe.
I mean the list goes on and on. Russ Nixon,
of the guys who juck Don Zimmers, Yeah Meyer.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean all those guys went to my high school,
and everybody but Tuffy Rose played for the same coach,
who was Paul Norr. Tuffy Rose had a great career
in Japan and uh. But there again, the guys that
went to my high school took the game seriously, and
we had a coach that took the game seriously.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
When you talk baseball in traditions, West High certainly I
miss playing. I don't like how they redid it personally
unsolicited feedback. I like the old West High only because
in large part I would go and watch you play
at the old uh uh, the old Western Hills High School,
the short sports right, which they still have. But there
was something unique. It was the smell. It was something
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unique at the old West that you could smell the
food from across the street. I miss Christians at Frish's
Big Boy. But when you talk about baseball in Cincinnati, Pe.
You talk about West Hide, but you also talk about Moeller.
What are your thoughts about the tradition of Molar and
I know football too, we'll stick to baseball at the moment.
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Just the tradition of Molar baseball with Griffy, the Larkins,
the Bells and on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's yeah, yeah, but it's still it's still Muller. I
think you'll agree with this that Mauller is still known
for football. You know, they've had those great players Bell
and guys like that mark in it, but they're still
known for their football program over the years, even to
this day. So everybody's known for something. But I would
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think that in Cincinnati baseball, Western Hills has a number
one name as far as Big League Baseball players, and
Muller's up on that list too. But when I take
a Maller over the years, I think more of Jerry
Fouss and always being a contention for the state title
in football. You know, back in the sixties and seventies,
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Mauller wasn't known for baseball at all. They were known
for football absolutely, uh Elder Elder was known for baseball.
To this they had to have some good players at
the Elder because their number one rivalry was Western Hills.
We're both on the hill. Who was king of the Hill?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I love it? Were you upset when they redid West Eye?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Redid it?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Very model?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's a nicer place now, like they do with a
lot of these high school parks. They invest the money
and do it. But I liked how.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Great well years don't have room. You don't have room
at Western Hills h you know to make a baseball
field because the right field is so short unless you
want to make it. You hit fish as you get
a grand So I have or something.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, they're not taking that frishes down. That's iconic.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, So Pete, update everybody what you're up to now?
You're I think everybody knows you're out in Vegas living
living your best life.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm doing good. I do a lot of appearances in Marritheca.
I'm going to Philly Friday and then I come over
to Cincinnati Saturday and Sunday. Then I'm going to uh Arizona.
From Arizona, I go to Nashville, so uh, you know,
I travel around to a lot of baseball appearances, group
of appearances, autograph sessions, and fortunately for me, people still
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want my autographs. So I'm pretty busy.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's well, you're the hit king, the hit king.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, I am that no one's ever gonna h surpay
us that I don't believe, not the way they played today. Uh.
You know, guys don't worry about getting his today. They
worry about hitting home runs, you know. Uh, and they
do a pretty good job of it. Because you know,
I'm getting a little tired to baseball, be honest with you,
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because every night when I watch ESPN, it's like watching
a home run derby.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It's a fact.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh there's too many teams that are relying on fifty
sixty percent of their runs based on the home run. Hey,
I was watched it yesterday. I was watching baseball yesterday
and I noticed there's four players in the nationally hitting
three hundred, and it's probably about the same in the
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American League. Now, is that that hard three hundred? That
there's nine or ten players in all of baseball that
are hitting over three hundred?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The game has completely changed, It's not. It goes to
what I said earlier, Pete. With high school kids and
college kids. It's all about being sexy. The fans want
to be sexy. They want they want that home run,
they want the fireworks. Say and I'm not just saying
this because the hit king is on the phone. I
am a small ball guy. Get them on, get him over,
get him in that. You never see a button run anymore.
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You never see a double, very rarely see a double
steal or stealing home unless you're what's his name, Andy Nagel,
who's next to me, La de la Cruz, And I
I mean, we're missing small ball. And I think in
the long run that's hurting.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
De la Cruz came into the league and he turned
the league on fire by hitting a couple of tape
major home runs and different things like that. And he
can run like the wind. Okay, But then if you
look at him today, uh, now he's down the seventh
or eighth in the lineup. He's hitting, he's headed for
the two twenties. He can't hit a break the ball.
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I don't know who's working with him, but he cannot
hit a breaking ball. And you got to get this
good h to understand. He's in the big leagues. Down
they throw a lot of breaking balls and all speed pitches,
but he he looks like he has no idea what
he's in the batter's box. And he's got great talent,
no question about it. Fastest under in the league, best
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arm in the league, one of the best power hitters
in the league. But he just don't know how to
put the ball in play. And now he's he's sinking
into almost two twenty nine or two thirty. I don't
know what's going on with him. I mean, someone's got
to work with him individually and get that.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm going to send you out there, Peter Edward Rose.
I'm going to send you out there on assignment and
you can probably get some autograph sales and sales as well.
Get you out there and work with Daily Cruz.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I got a feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, now here's a question, what do you listen to you?
That's another thing. These kids don't want to listen to
anybody because.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh I think they listened to a guy like me.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, do you have the more credibility than I do?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I think Yeah. All you got to do is look
at the record and you can. You can see what
I've accomplished and nothing was given to me. I mean,
I got all those hits to legitimate I didn't cheat,
you know. I did bet on baseball, which I was wrong,
But I didn't cheat to get all those hits. Hey,
I didn't cheat all those runs.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Hey, Pete, let me jump in here real quick, Andy Nagel,
I am very honored to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
The hit king.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I played against your son. I went to mold I'm
an eighty eight grad. I played against Junior when he
was at Oak Kills. And here's my thing, Barrett, and
I'll make a comment, and then I have a question
for Pete. You know, Pete talked about staying in the
in the league, in the longevity, which isn't there anymore.
I mean, do you realize if a person played for
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twenty years and collected two hundred hits a year, that's
four thousand hits, they would still be two hundred and
fifty six hit short of this guy. It is not
gonna be It's not gonna happen. The record is not
going to be broken. But Pete Broking, what I'd like
to talk about. You talk about what's going on with
these players in the home runs. Where's the pride in
not striking out? I mean, when you had two strikes,
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you were take.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
The single man.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
These guys are still swinging for defenses with two strikes
and they're hitting two.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Long when I got too, When I got two strikes,
I didn't poke at the ball because my goal when
I got in the batter's box was always to try
to hit the ball hard, okay, and to be honest
with you guys, And I'm not bullshitting when I say this.
I think in the history of baseball that I hit
the ball harder than anybody has ever played the game
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on a consistent basis. You know, I've batted fifteen thousand
times and I did strike out a thousand times, which
one striking out once every fifteen sounds like a lot.
But then if you calculated, it's like forty five or
fifty out of every six hundred bats. Now it don't
sound like so much because there's one way you can't
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get on base, and you know what that is. You
can't strike out, especially with a man on third, unless
two to two outs, you get a guy as the
guy start it starts off to ending with a double
and you're the next hitter get his ass over. I
don't care if you have to use your elbow, make
it easier for the next guy because you're going to
play so many one run games. The team that wins
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the most one run games is the team is probably
going to go to the playoffs. It's called fundamentally sound
baseball and teams today because you get a guy on second,
no outs, the guy is hitting, would brother hit a
two run home run? Then making it out to get
him over to third? And what's the chance that I'm
hitting the two run home run? Doubtful? Doubtful. But you
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can't get these guys had because you know they pay
the home run hitters today, that's the guys making all
the money, the guys who hit all the home runs,
ye the trouts, you know, people like that. But give
me some Freddie Freeman's, you know, give me some Mookie Betts.
Give me some of those guys. Because they get hits,
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they score runs, they get guys over, they get guys in,
and their teams win. That's the kind of guys I
want on my teams. I want winners, abely, and there
is a different There is different and winners and losers, okay,
And I don't want the guys going to hit two
home runs to strike out eight times, because what you're
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going to do the other you know, the other six
at bets. You've got to figure out what you what
you can do and go out do it on a
consistent basis. Everybody, everybody that plays baseball today has expertise.
Whether you're a hitter, whether you're a fielder, whether you're
a pitcher, whether you're a home run hitter, whether you're
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a singles, doubles, triples hitter, go out and do what
you can do on a consistent basis. All you can
try to do, all you kind of try to do
is a baseball player is be consistent. Be consistent with
the things that you can do. And if you give
enough players that are consistent with the things they do,
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they add up to winning games. And that's the teams
that go to the World Series and go to the playoffs.
It's it's it's simple. It's not rocket science, but we
make it rocket science because of these damn home runs. No,
I think if I was playing today and I wasn't
a home run hitter, most I ever hit with sixteen,
but I think based on how hard I hit the
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ball in some of these ballparks, I think I'd be
a twenty five, twenty eight home run a year guy, just.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Because I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Just because I hit the ball hard, you know, And
I'm not gonna plaint it. Because the players can't tell
where they're playing at. They just go and put the
uniform on and go out and play the game. But
you go to Houston, you'd be a home run hitter
in Houston. I never seen a band box like you.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You might want to slow down now. Only Gandy Naga
would be a home run hitter anywhere. But good and
you had another question.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hey, hey, Barret, I got one more. I got one
real quick story. I was in high school and Pete.
You remember the old ball game. The cage is over
there in Western Hills by Race Road.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's where I met Pete. Kid.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Listen, listen to this story.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They're the strike, the you're this strike. I spent three
hours in there a day, every day during the eighty
one day strike.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Here's my story, Jay, Pete, here's my story.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What was Jay's name? Jay? Sweet Jjon.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's right, I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was over that saved me during the strike, that
ball game, save me the strike.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Hey, I was over there one.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Night, Pete. Pete's over there, and he's in the fastest
cage Barrett, and he's standing on the plate and the
balls are coming at him and he's just hitting the
balls with the end of the bat. That's how good
his hand eye coordination was. I mean, it was amazing
just to watch that. Pete, you remember that.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
That's a long time go yere.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You're talking to the guy with the freest memory that
I've ever met and and following sports, Pete Rose, Pete,
you knew what the count was in nineteen eighty one
in that West Coast trip to San Francisco when you
went one one for three.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I mean, you're mo, I didn't know, because baseball is
all about stats. It's all about situation. What's the score?
What any way in who's in the bullpen, who's on
the mound, who's on deck? Who do you have over
there to pinchhit? You know, everything is situation in baseball.
And I don't think half of these players today understand
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any of the situations.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I don't baseball iqes down big time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Just just give me a back. Let me get in
the batter's box and see how far I can hit
it and strack out.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It just you simplify it so much, but yet it's
so complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, that's that's a good point.
But hey, listen, the game's played the same way today
as it was in seventy three when I played, eighty
three when I played, and sixty three when I played.
There's no difference. Okay, teams change, players change, but the
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game still played the same way. Babe Ruth played it
the same way, Ty Cop Hank, Aaron Willie mays, we
all played the game the same way. It don't change
the way you play the game. It may change the
way you approach the game, and that's so important. Does
that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Absolutely? I mean it's refreshing to hear you say it.
I wish you could get on the tallest MLB mountain.
But it all comes down to money. I think it
all comes down to money. What sells?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
How do you get more people into the stands? But
then there's a direct correlation.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's okay. That's okay because mister Cassilini has the right
to make a lot of money because he owns the team.
Players have a right to make a lot of money.
Is Joey Vono Are they going to pay him twenty
five million next year? I doubt it. I hope they do,
because I think Joey's a tremendous hitter, or he has
been his career. He's in two hundred this year. But
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you're not going to pay a guy twenty five million
based on what he gets what he did three years
ago or four years ago. If that's the case, they
could sign me up for what I did twenty five
years ago. I mean, what what what can you do
for me lately? That's that's the philosophy. These owners got
to have, you know, and and.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Let me ask you, Let me, guys.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Ask you a question. I don't mean to open up
a can of work. I'm gonna ask it. No, I'm
gonna ask you a question, and I'm gonna get your opinion. Okay,
if the baseball ended tomorrow, is Joey Vado a Hall
of Famer?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'll let Andy answer that one.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
That's a that's a good question, and.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Then I'm gonna flip it right back on Pete because
that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't forget. I don't forget, guys, he's been in
the league seventeen years, and he asked twenty one hundred hits,
I'd say, no, I say, how you gonna put a
guy as a regular player in the Hall of Fame.
And I'm not trying to bad map Joey Evado because
I really like Joey Vado, but he goes. Every time
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he batchs nowadays they always call him huge your Hall
of Famer. I don't know if. I don't know if
anybody except Kirby Puckett, and he had an injury that
made the Hall of Fame with less than twenty two
hundred hits.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Pet let me.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Ask you what, since you're on that, what would you
And I know it's a it's a body of work,
but it is twenty five hundred hits, a benchmark, a
benchmarks three thousand.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't think it's a corn How may I back?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You got? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean, did you hear what I just said? This
is Joey Vados seventeenth here? Yeah, okay, Now, if you
get two hundred hits a year, it'd have thirty four
hundred hits. He's got twenty one hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Based on that, Pete, I'd have to say he's not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, let me tell you one of their criterias for
the Hall of Fame, And I don't think joe is
there yet. His longevity, his longevity, and what do you
do with the longevity? Do you average one hundred and
forty five hits a year? Do you average one hundred
and ninety hits the year I went the guy at
averages one hundred and ninety hits the year I want
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the guy that averages ninety RBIs a year, not a
guy that averages forty. But now I'm not picking. I'm
not picking on Joey, but I'm not picking.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
At some point, do we get to the point the
way the game's trending lower, batting averages lower, you know
some of the stats. Do you get to the point
where you're struggling to find guys down the road that
would be qualified with Hall of Fame numbers?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, I don't know, because we all know that three
thousand hits is automatic Hall of Famer, five hundred home
runs automatic, three hundred women's automatic. Now the next thing
is twenty five hundred. Okay, twenty five hundred might get
to the Hall of Fame, but that's based on how
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long you played and what kind of production did you have,
What kind of run score did you have? What kind
of RBIs did you have? Where to hit in the lineup?
You know, you can't. You can't get on a guy's
case because he was a lead all hitter and he
only has eleven or twelve hundred RBIs. Because guys hitting third,
fourth and fence, especially if they played on the big
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red machine, are going to have more RBIs because of
the table setters hit in front of me. If you
were playing to day, okay, if you were playing to day,
how would you like to hit after me and Joe Morgan?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Not bad? Mary, not bad, not bad?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
How many times? How many times are how many RBIs
are you going to get just by putting the ball
in play?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
How many times?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
How many times is Joe and I first and third
and no outs? First to second, one out? And then
you throw Bobby Towing in there for a couple of years.
You know. That's why Benches in the Hall of Fame.
I'm not taking credit for Johnny Benchmin in the Hall
of Fame. He's the greatest ever. That's why Tony President
in the Hall of Fame, because they hit after us.
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It's just like when I went to fill Pladelphia. Who'd
I hit? Who'd I hit? In front of Mike Schmidt?
Where's he at? Hall of Fame? So you know I played,
I hit in front of Frank Robinson. I always had
great players hitting after me. But it takes players to
get on base to help a player become a great player,
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because if you only hit home runs and you hit fifty,
you got fifty rbi, right am I? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And you're bringing up I mean, that's that big red
machine man. That that was.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That was awesome, almost illegal. That was I.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Remember being a kid. I mean I was. I was
born in seventies. Well we hit seven years old. And
those guys.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Listen, listen, listen to this guy who listen to this.
This is This is easy for me to say, but
hard for anybody else to say.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
In my career, I played with Mike Schmidt, greatest third
base in there. I played with Barry Lark, one of
the best shortstops. I played with Joe Morgan, best second
basion ever. I played with Tony Perez, the only Cuban
never to make the Hall of Fame. Okay, I played
with Frank Robinson. I played with Johnny Bench Those are
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the kind of guys I went to the school and
dance with every night. Could how could it not be
fun for me playing the game of baseball? I had
a Hall of Famer. Listen to this. I had a
Hall of Famer at every position on the field when
I played the game of baseball as a teammate.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Not many guys can say that. Not many guys can
say that.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
One last question, Hey, I even.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Had two Hall of famers at Montreal, me Tim Rains
and Andre Dawson. And you got Frank Robinson. That's your
outfielders right there. And I named first basement, second basement, shortstop,
third bason of course catcher. It's fun when you can
play with the best catcher ever, the best second basement ever. Okay,
pop outfielders ever, best third base to ever, only Cuban
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ever to make the Hall of Fame. Those are those
are fun guys. What do they all have to comment?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
They want to win, Pete, don't be a stranger. Would
love to see you. Tommy Gregory says he's got your
Your ribs are in the overhead.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The Gregs are the best. I mean, the old man
was the best, the best and yeah, he was. He
used to get in bed with with Bob Hope. That's
who sold those ribs when mister Gregory first started out.
And uh, I see people all the time and they
talk about Montgomery and Ribs or Skyline Chili, and I
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got to correct him because I did all the gold
Star commercials. But we were raised on Skyline right across
the seat in high school up on Glenway Avenue, So
we grew up with Skyline, and we certainly grew up
with Montgomery and Ribs. But she had a Montgomery in
Ribs had to become uh financially stable to buy by
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Montgomery and compared to Skyline, Joey.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But you are the best.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Dean and Tom? Is there any better citizens for you
Cincinnati than the Gregory boy? I mean they have they
have fed so many people.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Are you including Dean in that as well? Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, I love Deans.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I love Tom likes your right him.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah yeah, I'm undecided whether Tom fished my check up
or Dean picks it up. I think when Dean picks
it up, he hands at the Tom.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That's the best. Pete.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Thanks for joining us on the one hundred edition of
The Big Mo Podcast. Hopefully we can have you back
on it again. Sue, thank you so much for calling in.
This was awesome anytime. Guys, have a great day. Still Red, Red, Red,
God bless
I got a big more podcast, the one hundredth edition
of the Big MO Podcast. And when Tommy Gregory and
Andy Nagele and I were like, who can we get,
Give me somebody that's just going to be like a
big time And when I think Cincinnati, I think big time.
I think Peter Edward Rose. Pete, you're calling in from
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Las Vegas. Thanks for joining us on the Big MO Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well that's my pleasure. Actually I'm sitting here watching the Reds.
One Hunter greens fitsch in today and no score after
in the second inning, So the Reds still have a
good shout at the wild Card and all we can
do is hope they quick go down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It was awesome ripe of About a hour before first
pitch today, David Bell called in. He's a Muller lum
and called into the Big Mo Podcast in ninety grad
and you could just tell Pete listening to his voice,
that there was I don't want to say some weight
off his shoulders, but you know more than I do
being a Cincinnati guy. All the talking heads were talking
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about this team would do nothing. David Bell had no roster,
he had no dudes. I mean, if you're David Bell,
how good whether you get into the playoffs or not.
How proud do you have to be to be David
Bell in the position he's in right now with what
he's done with this club.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, I don't think any manager should ever be happy
because his team played well and they didn't make the playoffs.
The way the playoff structure is today, you really don't
have to be that good of a team to make
the playoffs. So the resident had a lot of surprising
young players played good this year. You know who they are,
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and I think it would be a complete failure if
they don't make the playoffs. I really do, because tell
at one time they had an eight or nine game
league a couple months and months and a half ago.
So they haven't played when they needed to play well.
And is that a reflection on the manager, I don't know.
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Is it a reflection on the players? Probably, you know,
because players have to understand it's one hundred and sixty
two game schedule and you've got to somehow contribute something
every day for one hundred and sixty two days. And
that's why guys have good years, bad years, off years,
so so years. That's just the way it is. But
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they've had some really good years, some guys that were unexpected.
And when you get guys like that, all the teams
are baland for playoffs. Right now. Have guys that are
surprisingly having good years this year, and the Reds are
in that category.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Two.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They have two or three guys that are having career
type of years. And when you have careers type years,
what do you expect to do? You expect to win.
They've had some pitching injuries, everybody does. Everybody does, but
they got some great prospects pitching prospects, got some great
everyday type player prospects, and they've had a good year
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so far. But they're only a game out of the playoffs.
So now you've got to put the uh, put the
pedal to the medal, and close this thing out. That's
why I look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Pete, I want to switch gears. I was driving to
a Molar game the other night over on the West Side,
and I passed Boldface Park and and it just if
I'm not mistaken that that's kind of that was your
That's where you grew up right again, bold Face Park
over off River Road.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
When I was a kid, right down there on River Road.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Pete I want to ask you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I asked I asked Buddy Bill this the other day
on an interview, and I'm going to ask you right now.
Today's kids now they want everything at the palm of
their hand. They want instant gratification. It's all about social
media and less about hard work. When I think hard work,
I think West Side guys. I'm from the West Side myself.
I think I think blue collar lunch pale. It wasn't sexy.
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What would be your message to kids nowadays? You know
what they're like, Pete, you see them all the time.
What would be your message to a parent or one
of these young.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, I'd be a great prospect if I was growing
up today. And that's simply the way I played the game.
You know. I was a kick ass type player, worked
hard every day, worked on my craft, spent more time
in the batting case than anybody else. Used to play
down a Bullface Park, and we had a good high
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school to play baseball at. I think that's why eleven
or twelve Major leaguers come from Western Hills High School.
And most of those guys are from you know, the
Western Hills area or down in bull Face and Aarison
Ferry and Saylor Parking places like that because we played
the game very seriously and we enjoyed playing the game.
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And if you don't enjoy playing a game, don't waste
your time to play the game. Because baseball takes a
lot of game, a lot of practice to become a
good player. And the availability is there for players. Do
you want that availability? That's the difference. Some guys do
and some guys don't. Some guys cruise when they get
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to the big leagues, other guys don't. I want the
guys who don't cruise once they make the big leagues.
I always thought, I still do. The hardest thing in
the world is not making the big leagues. The hardest
thing in the world is staying in the big leagues
for a length of time. You know, I made the
big leagues, but then I stayed in the big league
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for twenty four years. You know a lot of guys
that they make the big leagues and after two years
are sent back to the minor league because they quit
working hard. You know, once you get to take to
being a big leaguer, you'll understand what I'm saying and
try to figure out what it is. And it's not
rocket science talking about here. You can make a lot
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of money at baseball today, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But you got Eddie Brinkman, Jim Boyle, Hermwie Meyer, Art Mahafe.
I mean the list goes on and on. Russ Nixon,
of the guys who juck Don Zimmers, Yeah Meyer.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean all those guys went to my high school,
and everybody but Tuffy Rose played for the same coach,
who was Paul Norr. Tuffy Rose had a great career
in Japan and uh. But there again, the guys that
went to my high school took the game seriously, and
we had a coach that took the game seriously.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
When you talk baseball in traditions, West High certainly I
miss playing. I don't like how they redid it personally
unsolicited feedback. I like the old West High only because
in large part I would go and watch you play
at the old uh uh, the old Western Hills High School,
the short sports right, which they still have. But there
was something unique. It was the smell. It was something
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unique at the old West that you could smell the
food from across the street. I miss Christians at Frish's
Big Boy. But when you talk about baseball in Cincinnati, Pe.
You talk about West Hide, but you also talk about Moeller.
What are your thoughts about the tradition of Molar and
I know football too, we'll stick to baseball at the moment.
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Just the tradition of Molar baseball with Griffy, the Larkins,
the Bells and on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's yeah, yeah, but it's still it's still Muller. I
think you'll agree with this that Mauller is still known
for football. You know, they've had those great players Bell
and guys like that mark in it, but they're still
known for their football program over the years, even to
this day. So everybody's known for something. But I would
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think that in Cincinnati baseball, Western Hills has a number
one name as far as Big League Baseball players, and
Muller's up on that list too. But when I take
a Maller over the years, I think more of Jerry
Fouss and always being a contention for the state title
in football. You know, back in the sixties and seventies,
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Mauller wasn't known for baseball at all. They were known
for football absolutely, uh Elder Elder was known for baseball.
To this they had to have some good players at
the Elder because their number one rivalry was Western Hills.
We're both on the hill. Who was king of the Hill?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I love it? Were you upset when they redid West Eye?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Redid it?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Very model?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's a nicer place now, like they do with a
lot of these high school parks. They invest the money
and do it. But I liked how.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Great well years don't have room. You don't have room
at Western Hills h you know to make a baseball
field because the right field is so short unless you
want to make it. You hit fish as you get
a grand So I have or something.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, they're not taking that frishes down. That's iconic.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, So Pete, update everybody what you're up to now?
You're I think everybody knows you're out in Vegas living
living your best life.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm doing good. I do a lot of appearances in Marritheca.
I'm going to Philly Friday and then I come over
to Cincinnati Saturday and Sunday. Then I'm going to uh Arizona.
From Arizona, I go to Nashville, so uh, you know,
I travel around to a lot of baseball appearances, group
of appearances, autograph sessions, and fortunately for me, people still
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want my autographs. So I'm pretty busy.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's well, you're the hit king, the hit king.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, I am that no one's ever gonna h surpay
us that I don't believe, not the way they played today. Uh.
You know, guys don't worry about getting his today. They
worry about hitting home runs, you know. Uh, and they
do a pretty good job of it. Because you know,
I'm getting a little tired to baseball, be honest with you,
(10:01):
because every night when I watch ESPN, it's like watching
a home run derby.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It's a fact.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh there's too many teams that are relying on fifty
sixty percent of their runs based on the home run. Hey,
I was watched it yesterday. I was watching baseball yesterday
and I noticed there's four players in the nationally hitting
three hundred, and it's probably about the same in the
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American League. Now, is that that hard three hundred? That
there's nine or ten players in all of baseball that
are hitting over three hundred?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The game has completely changed, It's not. It goes to
what I said earlier, Pete. With high school kids and
college kids. It's all about being sexy. The fans want
to be sexy. They want they want that home run,
they want the fireworks. Say and I'm not just saying
this because the hit king is on the phone. I
am a small ball guy. Get them on, get him over,
get him in that. You never see a button run anymore.
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You never see a double, very rarely see a double
steal or stealing home unless you're what's his name, Andy Nagel,
who's next to me, La de la Cruz, And I
I mean, we're missing small ball. And I think in
the long run that's hurting.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
De la Cruz came into the league and he turned
the league on fire by hitting a couple of tape
major home runs and different things like that. And he
can run like the wind. Okay, But then if you
look at him today, uh, now he's down the seventh
or eighth in the lineup. He's hitting, he's headed for
the two twenties. He can't hit a break the ball.
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I don't know who's working with him, but he cannot
hit a breaking ball. And you got to get this
good h to understand. He's in the big leagues. Down
they throw a lot of breaking balls and all speed pitches,
but he he looks like he has no idea what
he's in the batter's box. And he's got great talent,
no question about it. Fastest under in the league, best
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arm in the league, one of the best power hitters
in the league. But he just don't know how to
put the ball in play. And now he's he's sinking
into almost two twenty nine or two thirty. I don't
know what's going on with him. I mean, someone's got
to work with him individually and get that.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm going to send you out there, Peter Edward Rose.
I'm going to send you out there on assignment and
you can probably get some autograph sales and sales as well.
Get you out there and work with Daily Cruz.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I got a feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, now here's a question, what do you listen to you?
That's another thing. These kids don't want to listen to
anybody because.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh I think they listened to a guy like me.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, do you have the more credibility than I do?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I think Yeah. All you got to do is look
at the record and you can. You can see what
I've accomplished and nothing was given to me. I mean,
I got all those hits to legitimate I didn't cheat,
you know. I did bet on baseball, which I was wrong,
But I didn't cheat to get all those hits. Hey,
I didn't cheat all those runs.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Hey, Pete, let me jump in here real quick, Andy Nagel,
I am very honored to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
The hit king.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I played against your son. I went to mold I'm
an eighty eight grad. I played against Junior when he
was at Oak Kills. And here's my thing, Barrett, and
I'll make a comment, and then I have a question
for Pete. You know, Pete talked about staying in the
in the league, in the longevity, which isn't there anymore.
I mean, do you realize if a person played for
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twenty years and collected two hundred hits a year, that's
four thousand hits, they would still be two hundred and
fifty six hit short of this guy. It is not
gonna be It's not gonna happen. The record is not
going to be broken. But Pete Broking, what I'd like
to talk about. You talk about what's going on with
these players in the home runs. Where's the pride in
not striking out? I mean, when you had two strikes,
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you were take.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
The single man.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
These guys are still swinging for defenses with two strikes
and they're hitting two.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Long when I got too, When I got two strikes,
I didn't poke at the ball because my goal when
I got in the batter's box was always to try
to hit the ball hard, okay, and to be honest
with you guys, And I'm not bullshitting when I say this.
I think in the history of baseball that I hit
the ball harder than anybody has ever played the game
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on a consistent basis. You know, I've batted fifteen thousand
times and I did strike out a thousand times, which
one striking out once every fifteen sounds like a lot.
But then if you calculated, it's like forty five or
fifty out of every six hundred bats. Now it don't
sound like so much because there's one way you can't
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get on base, and you know what that is. You
can't strike out, especially with a man on third, unless
two to two outs, you get a guy as the
guy start it starts off to ending with a double
and you're the next hitter get his ass over. I
don't care if you have to use your elbow, make
it easier for the next guy because you're going to
play so many one run games. The team that wins
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the most one run games is the team is probably
going to go to the playoffs. It's called fundamentally sound
baseball and teams today because you get a guy on second,
no outs, the guy is hitting, would brother hit a
two run home run? Then making it out to get
him over to third? And what's the chance that I'm
hitting the two run home run? Doubtful? Doubtful. But you
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can't get these guys had because you know they pay
the home run hitters today, that's the guys making all
the money, the guys who hit all the home runs,
ye the trouts, you know, people like that. But give
me some Freddie Freeman's, you know, give me some Mookie Betts.
Give me some of those guys. Because they get hits,
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they score runs, they get guys over, they get guys in,
and their teams win. That's the kind of guys I
want on my teams. I want winners, abely, and there
is a different There is different and winners and losers, okay,
And I don't want the guys going to hit two
home runs to strike out eight times, because what you're
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going to do the other you know, the other six
at bets. You've got to figure out what you what
you can do and go out do it on a
consistent basis. Everybody, everybody that plays baseball today has expertise.
Whether you're a hitter, whether you're a fielder, whether you're
a pitcher, whether you're a home run hitter, whether you're
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a singles, doubles, triples hitter, go out and do what
you can do on a consistent basis. All you can
try to do, all you kind of try to do
is a baseball player is be consistent. Be consistent with
the things that you can do. And if you give
enough players that are consistent with the things they do,
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they add up to winning games. And that's the teams
that go to the World Series and go to the playoffs.
It's it's it's simple. It's not rocket science, but we
make it rocket science because of these damn home runs. No,
I think if I was playing today and I wasn't
a home run hitter, most I ever hit with sixteen,
but I think based on how hard I hit the
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ball in some of these ballparks, I think I'd be
a twenty five, twenty eight home run a year guy, just.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Because I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Just because I hit the ball hard, you know, And
I'm not gonna plaint it. Because the players can't tell
where they're playing at. They just go and put the
uniform on and go out and play the game. But
you go to Houston, you'd be a home run hitter
in Houston. I never seen a band box like you.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You might want to slow down now. Only Gandy Naga
would be a home run hitter anywhere. But good and
you had another question.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hey, hey, Barret, I got one more. I got one
real quick story. I was in high school and Pete.
You remember the old ball game. The cage is over
there in Western Hills by Race Road.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's where I met Pete. Kid.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Listen, listen to this story.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They're the strike, the you're this strike. I spent three
hours in there a day, every day during the eighty
one day strike.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Here's my story, Jay, Pete, here's my story.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What was Jay's name? Jay? Sweet Jjon.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's right, I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was over that saved me during the strike, that
ball game, save me the strike.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Hey, I was over there one.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Night, Pete. Pete's over there, and he's in the fastest
cage Barrett, and he's standing on the plate and the
balls are coming at him and he's just hitting the
balls with the end of the bat. That's how good
his hand eye coordination was. I mean, it was amazing
just to watch that. Pete, you remember that.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
That's a long time go yere.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I mean, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You're talking to the guy with the freest memory that
I've ever met and and following sports, Pete Rose, Pete,
you knew what the count was in nineteen eighty one
in that West Coast trip to San Francisco when you
went one one for three.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I mean, you're mo, I didn't know, because baseball is
all about stats. It's all about situation. What's the score?
What any way in who's in the bullpen, who's on
the mound, who's on deck? Who do you have over
there to pinchhit? You know, everything is situation in baseball.
And I don't think half of these players today understand
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any of the situations.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I don't baseball iqes down big time.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Just just give me a back. Let me get in
the batter's box and see how far I can hit
it and strack out.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It just you simplify it so much, but yet it's
so complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, that's that's a good point.
But hey, listen, the game's played the same way today
as it was in seventy three when I played, eighty
three when I played, and sixty three when I played.
There's no difference. Okay, teams change, players change, but the
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game still played the same way. Babe Ruth played it
the same way, Ty Cop Hank, Aaron Willie mays, we
all played the game the same way. It don't change
the way you play the game. It may change the
way you approach the game, and that's so important. Does
that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Absolutely? I mean it's refreshing to hear you say it.
I wish you could get on the tallest MLB mountain.
But it all comes down to money. I think it
all comes down to money. What sells?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
How do you get more people into the stands? But
then there's a direct correlation.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's okay. That's okay because mister Cassilini has the right
to make a lot of money because he owns the team.
Players have a right to make a lot of money.
Is Joey Vono Are they going to pay him twenty
five million next year? I doubt it. I hope they do,
because I think Joey's a tremendous hitter, or he has
been his career. He's in two hundred this year. But
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you're not going to pay a guy twenty five million
based on what he gets what he did three years
ago or four years ago. If that's the case, they
could sign me up for what I did twenty five
years ago. I mean, what what what can you do
for me lately? That's that's the philosophy. These owners got
to have, you know, and and.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Let me ask you, Let me, guys.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Ask you a question. I don't mean to open up
a can of work. I'm gonna ask it. No, I'm
gonna ask you a question, and I'm gonna get your opinion. Okay,
if the baseball ended tomorrow, is Joey Vado a Hall
of Famer?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'll let Andy answer that one.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
That's a that's a good question, and.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Then I'm gonna flip it right back on Pete because
that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't forget. I don't forget, guys, he's been in
the league seventeen years, and he asked twenty one hundred hits,
I'd say, no, I say, how you gonna put a
guy as a regular player in the Hall of Fame.
And I'm not trying to bad map Joey Evado because
I really like Joey Vado, but he goes. Every time
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he batchs nowadays they always call him huge your Hall
of Famer. I don't know if. I don't know if
anybody except Kirby Puckett, and he had an injury that
made the Hall of Fame with less than twenty two
hundred hits.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Pet let me.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Ask you what, since you're on that, what would you
And I know it's a it's a body of work,
but it is twenty five hundred hits, a benchmark, a
benchmarks three thousand.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
No, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't think it's a corn How may I back?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You got? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean, did you hear what I just said? This
is Joey Vados seventeenth here? Yeah, okay, Now, if you
get two hundred hits a year, it'd have thirty four
hundred hits. He's got twenty one hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Based on that, Pete, I'd have to say he's not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, let me tell you one of their criterias for
the Hall of Fame, And I don't think joe is
there yet. His longevity, his longevity, and what do you
do with the longevity? Do you average one hundred and
forty five hits a year? Do you average one hundred
and ninety hits the year I went the guy at
averages one hundred and ninety hits the year I want
(23:06):
the guy that averages ninety RBIs a year, not a
guy that averages forty. But now I'm not picking. I'm
not picking on Joey, but I'm not picking.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
At some point, do we get to the point the
way the game's trending lower, batting averages lower, you know
some of the stats. Do you get to the point
where you're struggling to find guys down the road that
would be qualified with Hall of Fame numbers?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, I don't know, because we all know that three
thousand hits is automatic Hall of Famer, five hundred home
runs automatic, three hundred women's automatic. Now the next thing
is twenty five hundred. Okay, twenty five hundred might get
to the Hall of Fame, but that's based on how
(23:50):
long you played and what kind of production did you have,
What kind of run score did you have? What kind
of RBIs did you have? Where to hit in the lineup?
You know, you can't. You can't get on a guy's
case because he was a lead all hitter and he
only has eleven or twelve hundred RBIs. Because guys hitting third,
fourth and fence, especially if they played on the big
(24:12):
red machine, are going to have more RBIs because of
the table setters hit in front of me. If you
were playing to day, okay, if you were playing to day,
how would you like to hit after me and Joe Morgan?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Not bad? Mary, not bad, not bad?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
How many times? How many times are how many RBIs
are you going to get just by putting the ball
in play?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
How many times?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
How many times is Joe and I first and third
and no outs? First to second, one out? And then
you throw Bobby Towing in there for a couple of years.
You know. That's why Benches in the Hall of Fame.
I'm not taking credit for Johnny Benchmin in the Hall
of Fame. He's the greatest ever. That's why Tony President
in the Hall of Fame, because they hit after us.
(24:58):
It's just like when I went to fill Pladelphia. Who'd
I hit? Who'd I hit? In front of Mike Schmidt?
Where's he at? Hall of Fame? So you know I played,
I hit in front of Frank Robinson. I always had
great players hitting after me. But it takes players to
get on base to help a player become a great player,
(25:20):
because if you only hit home runs and you hit fifty,
you got fifty rbi, right am I? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And you're bringing up I mean, that's that big red
machine man. That that was.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That was awesome, almost illegal. That was I.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Remember being a kid. I mean I was. I was
born in seventies. Well we hit seven years old. And
those guys.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Listen, listen, listen to this guy who listen to this.
This is This is easy for me to say, but
hard for anybody else to say.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
In my career, I played with Mike Schmidt, greatest third
base in there. I played with Barry Lark, one of
the best shortstops. I played with Joe Morgan, best second
basion ever. I played with Tony Perez, the only Cuban
never to make the Hall of Fame. Okay, I played
with Frank Robinson. I played with Johnny Bench Those are
(26:12):
the kind of guys I went to the school and
dance with every night. Could how could it not be
fun for me playing the game of baseball? I had
a Hall of Famer. Listen to this. I had a
Hall of Famer at every position on the field when
I played the game of baseball as a teammate.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Not many guys can say that. Not many guys can
say that.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
One last question, Hey, I even.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Had two Hall of famers at Montreal, me Tim Rains
and Andre Dawson. And you got Frank Robinson. That's your
outfielders right there. And I named first basement, second basement, shortstop,
third bason of course catcher. It's fun when you can
play with the best catcher ever, the best second basement ever. Okay,
pop outfielders ever, best third base to ever, only Cuban
(27:02):
ever to make the Hall of Fame. Those are those
are fun guys. What do they all have to comment?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
They want to win, Pete, don't be a stranger. Would
love to see you. Tommy Gregory says he's got your
Your ribs are in the overhead.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The Gregs are the best. I mean, the old man
was the best, the best and yeah, he was. He
used to get in bed with with Bob Hope. That's
who sold those ribs when mister Gregory first started out.
And uh, I see people all the time and they
talk about Montgomery and Ribs or Skyline Chili, and I
(27:40):
got to correct him because I did all the gold
Star commercials. But we were raised on Skyline right across
the seat in high school up on Glenway Avenue, So
we grew up with Skyline, and we certainly grew up
with Montgomery and Ribs. But she had a Montgomery in
Ribs had to become uh financially stable to buy by
(28:04):
Montgomery and compared to Skyline, Joey.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But you are the best.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Dean and Tom? Is there any better citizens for you
Cincinnati than the Gregory boy? I mean they have they
have fed so many people.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Are you including Dean in that as well? Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, I love Deans.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I love Tom likes your right him.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah yeah, I'm undecided whether Tom fished my check up
or Dean picks it up. I think when Dean picks
it up, he hands at the Tom.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That's the best. Pete.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Thanks for joining us on the one hundred edition of
The Big Mo Podcast. Hopefully we can have you back
on it again. Sue, thank you so much for calling in.
This was awesome anytime. Guys, have a great day. Still Red, Red, Red,
God bless
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