April 16, 2025 • 42 mins
Best of the Big Moe Podcast
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It's Bomber Week.
Everyone has their game face on as we prepare for the huge game this Friday
Big Moe Barrett and Andy Nagel talk with Senior WR Jovan Love and man of Moeller and former director of Bengals football operations Jim Lippincott.
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It's Bomber Week.
Everyone has their game face on as we prepare for the huge game this Friday
Big Moe Barrett and Andy Nagel talk with Senior WR Jovan Love and man of Moeller and former director of Bengals football operations Jim Lippincott.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wmoe and the Moula Broadcasting Nowhere. Probably was that The
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And now your host's Andy Nagel and Big Mo Barret
Andy Dagle.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Have you put up your Christmas lights yet?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Have not?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Has Julie put them up yet?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you're one of those after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Typically, But we are going away leaving Saturday, coming actually
back on Thanksgiving. We're gonna celebrate with the family on
the following Saturday after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I put the tree up, you were Joey. I did, just.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Trying to get ahead of the game a little bit.
She does have a few decorations. We had the grandkids
over on Saturday and they got to kick out at
the oldest of four year old got to kick out
at helping Nana put the Christmas stuff up. So we
have a few decorations. We have the tree up, but
no lights, no ornaments, none of that's stuff, just so
(01:00):
we can we're not killed when we get back from
our little getaway.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
If Andy Nagels putting up a Christmas tree, do you
have Christmas music in the background playing to get you
in the movie. Of course, I know. Now where did
you go? Do you go to Spotify?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I just I just hey, Alexa, Holiday Classic, that's right,
that's right. And I was all by myself. Julie was out.
I don't know where she was. I did it on Sunday.
I just sat there, had a couple of coffee, had
the Christmas tunes on. You were you were locked it
(01:40):
was you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Were locked in. You turned you turned on, Uh, what's
that channel? The Hallmark Channel? Found yourself a little uh
little Christmas show? A Christmas story.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We watched one last night in Netflix, the first Christmas movie.
We sat, well, my wife picked it out. I kind
of that and absorbed it. But uh, Netflix, I would
I would give a bad review on Hot Frosty. It
is like the number one movie on Netflix right now.
It's called Hot Frosty.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Sounds like a show we should not be talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's about a snowman that comes to life.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No figure, that's weird, that's original, horrible.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We kept looking at each other like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
This is what you watch? The whole thing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Goodness, of course, all right, let's let's wait real quick
On that note, doesn't Tom Gregory watch that year round?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
He loves those Christmas.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And Pam and he's not ashamed to admit it. That's
that's the sad thing, not a shame to admit it.
Let's segue from Christmas movies and setting up to Andy
Nagle's golf game, because I understand Jim smoked you on
the golf course, yes the other day, you want to
talk about that for the millions and millions of people listening.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Tradition, we do an annual thing around gym's birthday's birthday.
My oldest is he turned thirty. His birthday's November fourteenth,
and typically I'll take the boys golf and in and
around his birthday. We caught a perfect day. Our advancement
team and Barrett was included, went up to Detroit and
I somehow got a Hall pass off that one, which
(03:22):
I was grateful to Mary Fisher forgiving me that. But
they had a productive day in Detroit and I had
a semi productive day on the golf course. I did
lose to my eldest, but I tell you here's my
golf game in a nutshell. Bert went. We played at
Shaker Run. Ryan Nightingale More two thousand grad the head
pro up there, welcome this with open arms. The front nine.
(03:46):
I had four pars and still shot a fifty. That's
how bad. That's how sporadic my game is.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's frustrating. It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know, it's always two shots or a shot, an
added shot into you know, a toff shot.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Ye good weather, Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It was great. It was sixty five sixty seven degrees,
was a little cloudy, but there was nobody out there.
I think we clipped around in under four hours, had
a blast, a lot of good laughs, a lot of
good time, and it's always good to spend with with
your sons as they get older.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So it was awesome, good stuff. Andy, A big game
Friday night Moeller Saint X on the heels of Coach
Faust last week and just a lot of emotions flying
around this place, certainly a lot of memories with Coach
Faust and and a lot of people talking about yesteryear
and all the teams he had. We're going to have
(04:40):
on the show, and just a bit Jim Lippencott to
talk about his time here at Moeller, his time at
Cincinnati Bengals, his memories of that this Moeller Saint X game,
But what are some of your memories of whether it
could Obviously, being a former baseball coach, here a lot
of that rivalry more, but some people will play down
the rivalry. And I and Batman and Robin Need who
(05:08):
is it, Joker, Jecter, Riddler, Penguin correct, any one of those?
You know, Darth Vader Needs, Luke Skywalker, like Michigan Ohio
State like I don't like the in st X is
saying the same thing about Muller. There's no doubt about it.
But I like rivalries. I think it makes the institutions
(05:30):
better when you have those rivalries. But there is a
there's a line of demarcation to where you want these
guys to stay locked in. Talk about your experience.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I dislike Saint X. I'll come right out and say it.
I got no problem saying that. You know, when I
was here in my senior year, they bumped us in
the regional finals in baseball, and it's it's always kind
of been one of those. And then you know, when
I was coaching here with coach Held, it's amazing the
fan mail you get or the comments you get. You
(06:01):
can lose to anybody, but when you lose the Saint X,
the reaction from the molar community in the outside community
is is I think a lot of people feel the same,
and it's it's kind of one of those anybody but
Saint X type mantra and I've never experienced that before
with any other schools, but it's it's crazy and that's that,
(06:23):
you know, that's the definition of that rivalry. And you know,
I think a lot of it comes to the outside
perception of Saint X for some reason, having that public
perception that they're better than more or you know, they're
the they're this elite high school, whether it's elite academics,
which I mean, I'm telling you right now, we just
(06:44):
came out with that report a couple of weeks ago, Barrett.
We're the only all boys school in the state of
Ohio that reached that platinum status in that ap So
it's it's not there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Let me remind you again. I mean the all time
record the plea against that team Mowler forty seven twenty
four and one and they've been around since Appner doubl Edday.
How we looking, big boy?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, I just you know, it is what it is.
I dislike say next, and I'll say it. I got
no problem saying that at all.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You have company, my friend. All right, we're gonna step
away for a moment. When we come back, we have
Jim Lippincott. Of course, being in studio might have a
special guest from one of those guys that the Molar
football team will be back after this. You're listening to
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of Moeller High School and The Big Mo Podcast. Welcome
back to the Big Mo Podcast, and we have a
special guest in the studio, a member of the Moller
football team who was on countdown to kickoff last week
and Uh, I was impressed you. Uh you speak well.
You got that deep breast, deep Bresby voice. Javon Love,
(08:46):
Javon Love, Jovon Love. Tell everybody how to say it again, Joe,
I've been saying it wrong forever.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Now it's a baseball guy too, come on, don't get him.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He's a baseball guy. I'm posturing as a football player, Jovon.
I want to talk talented athlete about before we talk
about anything else that hit on Friday night. So for
folks that were there, I had a guy, a fan,
give him a big shout out on the air in
a minute. But we was talking to a fan last
night who said, who is number thirteen? Kevin Deacon came
(09:19):
up to me and said, who's thirteen? I said, that's
that's mister love. He said that was one of the
hardest hits he's seen. Now, So you catch the ball,
all right? When did you make eye contact with that dude,
that Princeton Viking coming down? We had to be within seconds.
Oh man, it was probably less than that. I like,
as soon as I turned up the corner, he was
right there. And I was like, so I went through
(09:41):
the old line and I was just trying to like
move my way past them, and I didn't see him
until I turned turned the corner and he was right there.
And I didn't really have a chance to really like,
I mean, I braced myself, but it was like you.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Low boom, you didn't brace yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You've delivered it if you look at the video, Like,
I like just turned my shoulder. I wasn't really like
bracing for Like, I wasn't really getting low as I
should have. Like I was just bracing for that contact.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So what would have happened if you would have gotten
low like you should.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Have probably had a stretcher on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So your mercy, I mean, did you get your bell
rung a little bit yourself? Yeah? He hit me.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
He hit me pretty good. I was just bigger than him?
How are we looking all right?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So, Jay Love, we got a big win on Friday,
You got a big win on it. But it's like,
you know, we talk, I keep saying faceless opponent. It's
just another faciless opponent. What's practice been like this week
getting ready for the game the regional final on Friday?
Because here's here's a benefit that I think you guys have.
You've been there before three times, to be exact, this
football team three consecutive times coming into this game. Talk
(10:49):
about practice this week and the advantages of that, of
being in this in these spotlights before.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, everybody's locked in. We know that are We know
our opponent pretty well. We know how big of a
game it is, how big of a rivalry it is,
And we're really locked in. I mean, we know what's
on the line right now, and we know like how
we're gonna come out and execute. You know, we got
like we played them before. We know their weaknesses. We
also know their strengths too, so we're just really preparing
(11:18):
to face that they got a couple of guys that
are a little banged up, So we're just looking to
see like how they're going to come out and respond
to that and we'll make our adjustments from there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And I was going to ask you, you know, because
because football is a game of adjustments, I mean, how
uncomfortable is it for you guys not knowing who and
they have that same concern not knowing who's going to
be out there. There's always an adjustment of maybe a
series or two right both sides of the ball. What
walk me through that and what's that like as you
guys go through those early adjustments.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It's not uncomfortable at all. I mean, we we're gonna
go out and play. We don't care who's out on
the other side. Uh, We're just going out and go
out and play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Important is that swag that this football?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh, it's probably our identity, that's what Like, that's what.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You guys like that before the season started.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, that's who That's just who we are. I mean,
we go out with a swagger. We don't care who's
on the other side. Like, we're gonna come out and play.
We're gonna come out and hit you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I think that's what makes our team so tough to handle,
is that, Like you can come out and score in
the first drive. I mean, it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter,
we're gonna come out and throw the ball. We're gonna
come out run the ball on you, and you got
to learn how to defend it for four quarters.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think watching your offense and you you've been in
some situations where it's been tight. I mean not every
game's a blowout, but just the calmness that you guys have.
There's no panic in your offense out you know you
can score on any given play. You're that dynamic offensively
with all the weapons that you guys have. Talk a
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little bit about keeping your cool in the huddle, knowing
that you're gonna score, and having a guy like Matty
b that knows where you're at at all times and
delivers the ball, Like coming out of that route, he'd
already let go of that ball and it's on you,
I mean, boom it. It just seems that he has
that that relationship with his receivers that are it's just special, man.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, that's that's the trust that we have on this team.
I mean, everybody's dudes. Everybody. If you look at our offense,
our whole our whole lineup is all dudes. Like we
all have the ability to go play at that D
one level, and we're all, you know, we're all in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The fact that you can drop your egos. That's what's
gonna make you win ultimately. If if you guys can,
if you're not worried about Hey, I need my touches,
so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And we talked about that in the preseason. You know,
how does how does Maddie pee? Because you're dealing with
high school dudes, right, how does Mattie p keep everybody happy?
And it's worked out, it really is because of that
selfless what Andy's talking about, that selfless approach to the game.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, multiple games that will have a couple other like
we have multiple guys that are touching the rock and
getting their yards. I mean, not every game is going
to be like that. Not every game he's gonna like,
how five guys with over eighty yards? I mean, but
that's just how the game goes. You got to learn
how to move past that, and once you get the rock,
you got to learn how to really like make it count.
I mean, it's all on you once you have the rock,
(14:11):
Like matt did his job getting it to you, but
it's your job to execute and really get up the field.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Because when you hoist that trophy at the end of
the year. Everybody gets to put a hand on it.
Of course, a really special thing. Practice. This week you
said locked in. The weather is starting to finally break
a little bit. It should be dry at kickoff on Friday,
but cold. Does that have any impact at all?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, we got heaters on the sideline for a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That Jaddy hig out Margate with that with that bullet
heater blowing heavy. Not bad, Marty, not bad. J Love,
thank you so much for everything, Uh for coming on
here and good luck on Friday night. Hopefully we'll be
doing this again next Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's Jay Love on the Big Mo Podcast. When we
come back, we have Jim Lippincott, former Cincinnati Bengal headcub
not head coach, but former Cincinnati Bengal coach and Molar coach.
When we come back from a break, you're listening to
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Bou podcast and it's it's that week. It's the playoffs
round What is this, Andy Dage, I have no idea
what this is.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I believe this is round three.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Round three, ding ding, ding ding. And we have a
special guest to talk about the rivalry.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Round four Regional Finals.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I know it's the regional final, but you know, after
after hover many weeks now to fourteen weeks. It kind
of you just who we playing. That's really all that matters.
Speaking of all that matters, let's bring on a Molar
football legend. Former Cincinnati Bengal coach also man of Molar
coach Jim Lippincott and coach. Welcome to the Big Mo Podcast.
(17:14):
Thanks for taking some time to talk about the big
rivalry that is Molar insane.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
X that it is and good morning to both of
you that it is. It is a big rapperry.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Before we talk about the game and your history, your
your your iteration of it, kind of tell people when
you were at Molar and when you were at the
Bengal was what you did at Cedric. You're on the clock.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I was at Mollar the first time in nineteen eighty one,
and I came as an English teacher and linebacker coach.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So right after coaching, I was left.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
It took three or four people to replace him, and
I was one.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Of them, that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Then my second year, I was a defensive coordinator, and
then eventually I became associate athletic director and then athletic
director and then in nineteen ninety one, after that, see
it was I left March first of ninety two. March
first of ninety two, I went to work for Mike
Mike Brown and the Bengals, and I went down there
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as a scout, and then eventually I was a director
of player personnel and a director of scouting or director
of football, whatever the title I had, but essentially I
was a scout. I find them, sign them, and cut them.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Tell everybody. Tell everybody what you're most known for. We've
had you on the show before talking about this. For
folks that haven't listened, your most popular, maybe not popular.
Tell everybody, tell everybody about that.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're talking about Hard Knocks. Yes, yes, sir, Yeah, okay, yeah.
Hard Knocks was really a good experience. It was a
matter of fact, it was a great experience. Like take
my hat off to those people. Yeah, they you know.
We lived at Georgetown College for training camp, and there
was a crew, a camera crew. They would follow me
around and they'd be sitting outside my door, like at
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six in the morning. Because I knew I was an
early riser, and when I waved cut people and waved them,
I did it very early in the morning so I
could have access to all the flights that might be
available during the day and number two, they didn't have
to face their teammates. So we went through the first
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morning of cutting players and I went over to have
breakfast with Mike, which I usually did each morning, and
he told me not to look at the paper. He
told me not to look at TV and not to
listen to the radio. That I was getting butchered all
over the country for being heartless and mean. And they
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didn't like the way I was talking to the players
when I waved them. But when I waved them, I
simply told them that the Bengals of putting you on
waivers today, which means you did not make the team.
I didn't calm them. I didn't tell them what a
great job they did. If they did a great job,
they'd been making the team right. I was as simple
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and succinct and business like as I could. And then
I informed them.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
About you never use the phrase it's it's not you,
it's me. No, And I think what I watched.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I watched these other hard knocks, and these people that
are cutting guys are getting on there and saying, oh,
this is the toughest thing I've had to do. Well,
that kid didn't care about that he cares about his career,
and you should be a little more gracious, you know,
and respectful when when you tell these players that their
dreams over. If you play football or any sport and
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you take the uniform off for the last time, that's traumatic.
That is traumatic, and I think the people that cut
players from with his other team, I should think about that.
I was lucky. I learned from a guy named Frank
Smouse who learned from Paul Brown. I did it exactly
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the way Peb did it. And that's why I did
it that way is because his logic was you should
be more respectful to the players than that. And remember
that you're telling them that even though they tried as
hard as they can, their their dream of playing pro
football is over.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
What was the worst reaction that you got? I mean,
because as you said, that's a life changing experience for
a lot of these guys. Some will see other teams right,
get other opportunities, but for many guys it is.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Their last chance. Well, when you're telling them, they don't
know that, correct? When they called their agents after I
leave the room, they will be told that by their agent,
and the agent then will be getting on the phone
and is trying to muster up business. But there was
a college free agent offensive lineman. Why we were still
at Wilmington College, and I waved him and uh he
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wanted to take a walk. So we went outside and
we were walked and he just broke down. Cried and
he cried and he tried because his parents had always
told him that if you do your best, everything will
work out. Well, he did his best. It just wasn't
good enough. Uh So we send him on his way,
but I would uh calling him once in a while,
(22:25):
just let's see how he's doing. He's made plans and
gotten on with life and uh so that part worked out, okay,
But yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Know, I know it's a business and I know you
took that you know, business approach, you know that, that
Paul Brown model. Yeah, but but still as a as
a as a as a dad, as a father, as
a man, it's still got to be tough. Man. I mean,
you're you're you know. Uh And and that example you
just had, did you kind of switch from you know,
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the turk so to speak to a more fatherly figure
as you're walking with this with this young man and
he's breaking down, did you kind of turn to Okay,
I really need to be there for this guy, man.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I had. I learned that lesson through my son. My
son was a senior at Moler and he played his
last game at Princeton High School and they lost, and
David's team was five and five. They didn't get to
enjoy the fruits of their labor as much as others have.
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But anyway, I went out on the field and he
walked up to me and he just maybe he just
put his arms around me and laid his head on
my shoulder and he began to cry, and he.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Cried really hard.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And then I realized that I failed him as a father,
and here I am in this profession. I didn't take
the time to tell him that when this game's over,
this would be one of the stadtest events of your life.
And so I learned lessen the hard way, because I
made the mistake of not pairing enough. And so yes,
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when that young man wanted to take a walk, I
did it happily.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, Coach, let's kind of transition if we could into
the game that's coming up. On Friday night, the Saint
Xavier Bombers. Moelers had their way with the Bombers for
some time. Now, walk me through the emotions of this game.
And how many times can you recount that you actually
played st X off the top of your head? And
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what was that game like? And did you ever play
him in the playoffs? Oh?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
We did, Yes, we did. How many times? Let's see
if eighty one once eighty two? We played them in
the playoffs in two thousand and twelve, I think it
was twenty twelve. We may have played them twice. I
think we had them at the Knippert Stadium in the playoffs.
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So other than that, I think we've played them every year,
just once, which means there may have been another playoff
game at Solfa Field and I'm not remembering right now.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Let me ask you this. I'm gonna buy you a
hot fudge Sunday if you can get this right. You
ready for this? In fact, I'm gonna step it up
if you get this right. George Smith from the Athletic Department,
who just walked in the studio, I'm going to have
him give you season tickets to next year's Molar football
game football season. If you can nail the exact record
(25:29):
of the Molar Crusaders versus the Saint Xavier Bombers the
all time record. If you can nail it, you get
season tickets to next year's Molar Crusader football season. Are
you prepared to be on the hot seat to answer.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I'm gonna try. Yes, I'll do it all right if.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You get it right. There's a lot of steak here.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I wave a white flag again.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Forty seven, twenty four and one against the Sea. How
are we looking, Marty.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
You know, that's the one thing about football fans. We
keep calling these things rivalries, correct, correct, And to there
to be a rivalry, there's got to be some equality,
a number of wins. For example, I saw somewhere maybe
on the Bengal website or someplace, that we're forty and
seven against them. That's that's not a rivalry. It's a
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fun game against too, against Princeton.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Princeton, I got you, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, And it's a fun game. But I've told this story.
I told this story a million times. In nineteen eighty two,
we were ranked number one in the USA. Today we're
a first team in the country, and they were third,
and we were playing them in the tenth game at Princeton.
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Thousands and thousands of people wanted to see the game.
But anyway, now keep remember now first and third in
the country, and at halftime we were around forty two
to nothing, and I remember coach Connie and saying, what
are we going to do now? And I said, We're
going in there, and coach like Hall, that's what we're
going to do. And we ended up beating them like
fifty six to seven. And then the next week we
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had to play them again and it was a very
similar score.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But uh, let me, well, let me ask you this though,
what what are you saying because you say it's not
a rivalry, and you you certain you certainly you certainly
have some uh you got some proof, some evid dances
we like to call it to make that argument, but
it's but but from a from a student, a lot
of these kids know each other. They they play summer ball,
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AAU basketball together, they play they're in all these you
know now they got black sheep and all these offseason
conditioning places. They're conditioning with each other all season. So
from that respect, I think it is a rivalry. Rivalry
maybe not by records, but in these games, these kids
sometimes they get they get vapor locked mentally. You know,
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if you're if you're Burt Banthyany and you're at practice
this week, what are you telling these guys at practice
and then maybe even in the pregame.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
That's very simple. I just had a text message conversation
with the Running Back Church about this very same thing
at MOLA. Before these big games. I would tell them
that there are memorable things in life, and there are
life altering things, and what we're about to do is
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not life altering. It's memorable. So enjoy the moment, play
as hard as you can, and we'll accept the consequences
whatever they are. That don't get yourself all built up
thinking that this is a life all Traine moment. And
then I would go through and talk about what the
life all Trained moments were. And I'll tell you a
side story to that. When I did it in twenty twelve,
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Sam Herbert was kneeling to my right and I gave
him talk out about the next year twenty thirteen, I'm
ready to give it again. This is the night before
the state championship game. I am looked up at me
and he says, are you going to tell us what
memorable events and life of all Trined events are? Again?
And I had to laugh. It's another indication of his memory.
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But anyway, anyway, I must define rivalry different than most.
To me, I think a rivalry has to be a
contest between two institutions or two teams that are evenly
matched and closely in battle. On them, maybe you'd have
as many wins and losses as the other. I think
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what you just described, Barrett is called a game that's
fun to play, because yeah, yeah, because there are games
where we know the people. Yeah, no, there's no question.
John Sabotello was the offensive coordinator at Saying Next most
of my first tour of Dutiot Moeller, and we became
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good friends and uh and we enjoyed calling plays against
each other. I'm sure that with all they have to
do to work out and the availability of working out
different places, what you just said is absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And I think you, now a coach, add social media
into that as well. You didn't have social media.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, we didn't, wit, No,
we didn't. And so to me, this is a game
that's fun to play. But the running that coach at
Maler now, Eric Ogletree is one of my proegees. I
had him as an assistant at with Throw for a year.
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He's a great coach, great coach, and anyway, I was
wishing him good luck, and I was reminding him of
the life alterraining moments speech and that not to let
his players get too tied up and what the stakes are.
To enjoy the moment when they walk out on the
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field and Mason Stadium is full. Enjoy that and then
just play as hard as you can every snap and
accept the consequences, whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Andy Nagel was telling in my producer ear right now
that he you know, you're not going to be able
to speak to the team on Friday, but Andy says,
invite him to Motown and he can give his life
altering speech at Motown on Friday night. I don't. I know,
you're still you're recooping from a recent surgery. But if
you can make it, we would love to have you
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on Motown.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah. I'm not I'm not getting that. I'm not getting
around all that well yet. I tried to. I went
over to Mason Stadium since I lived right here by that,
I went over to Mason Stadium to try to walk.
And I'm embarrassed to say how far I got for
I was gassed. It wasn't very far.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, the good news is you don't have to walk
in marve. You can just sit right down in our
tailgate unit. But I get it, yeah, I get it. Yeah.
But when you're ready, we're ready for you to row
out the blue and gold carpet coach. That does so
much for for for joining us. I really appreciate it.
And hap former Cincinnati Bengal coach, former Moler coach, which
we've had you on before. I'm sure we'll have you
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on many times more. But your insight is uh, is
is very cool. So I really appreciate you taking and
now your daughter works for more. I mean, it's full circle.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
She's the heart and soul of our family. I'm telling
you that I'll children David Kelly. But Kelly is uh uh,
she's just she's just a flower, a months, a bunch
of thorns.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Everyone talking about Are you talking about your family? No?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
No, I'm talking about Kelly. You'll get you'll have fun
being around Kelly. She's very pleasant, she's very lovable, and
she's very bright. Well I don't know where she got
I got a bunch of I don't know where she
got her intelligence, but it wasn't from me.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's good to have a lipping cod back at high school.
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
A man. I gotta she loves it there.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
She she loves it there.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I got a bunch of Jim Lippincott stories on our
way to Detroit. Her and I went to Detroit. I'll see,
I'll save those were off the air.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah, that's pretty good idea.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That Jim Lippincott, former Cincinnati Bengal coach and also Moller
football coach. Coach, thanks you so much for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Thanks coach An, you got it anytime.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He's a good d You know something about just a
real quick side story where Jim Libcott was in my life.
He was the athletic director when I was here at Moeler.
I went to college, like you said, he got that
job in ninety two with the Bengals. I graduated from
Walsh College in ninety two and with a communications marketing degree.
I had sent a letter to Mike Brown. I knew
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they did not have a marketing department or I mean
it was bare bones back in the nineties. They didn't
have anything, but I sent this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
As a way up until a year or two.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I sent a letter to Mike Brown saying, Hey, I
would love to work for the Bengals and marketing whatever communications,
And he sent me a letter back, a handwritten letter,
and he referenced that Jim Lippencott gave me a even
though they weren't hiring at that time, but Jim gave
me a glowing reference recommendation.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So that's awesome, pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, it was pretty cool to get that back from
Mike and into him.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You still have the letter from probably.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Somewhere in a box, you know how you keep kind
of that stuff. But but but coach Lippis is a
great guy. I mean he was. He was awesome when
he when he was here at Molar.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
A lot of fun, very cool. Andy, We're gonna take
a step, take a break, we'll be back. You're listening
to the best coverage of high school sports in Cincinnati.
It's wm OE and the Molar Broadcasting Network, The Big
Mill Podcast wm OE in Molar High School would like
to congradulate these golfers on their remarkable season in their
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postseason accolades. Landon Harris, First Team All Southwest District, Will Dalton,
Trip Johnson, Charlie Shank, Peter Schwallander Honorable mention all Southwest District.
We are bred our Metal Muller from w MOOE in
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who has secured the Player of the Year nomination. We'd
also like to thank head soccer coach Mike Welker two
thousand and two grad on being named Coach of the Year.
W MOOE and the Molar Broadcasting Network, along with the
Molar High School community, congratulate Carson and Mike on these
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well deserved honors. Back in a Big Bo podcast, Another
good one, Andy Nagel and can we start tailgating now?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's the excitement around here.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The flags out on the Crusader. That's a that's a
traditional thing here at school. But uh, you know, it's
it's it's it's it's say next week, it's it's beat
up X, you know. And that's I got a I
got an email from from seventy five alum Jimmy Donald
and the last thing that he, you know, he sent
me his email and the very last two words was
beat X. And he must have put it in like
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a sixty font you know, so because that's right the alumni,
I know that they know the importance of this game. Uh.
It gives them, you know, it gives us bragging rights.
Uh when we when we see you know, whether it's
in a work situation or whatever professional situation. You see
a Saint X alum, you can kind of stick your
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chest down and say we got you this week. Again.
I like how at the end, but you know, you know,
look looking, you know, we we haven't dissected this game much, beart,
but had a big lead early in the year. You know,
herb Street ran for that that first play opening touchdown
and then they didn't score. We went up what twenty
eight to seven? Uh, and then it turned into a shootout.
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You know last year, you know this playoff game that
we played it X. It might have been Week two
or week three. It was a ten to seven games.
So I know that you get nervous with these games.
I just think if the offense does what the offense does, and.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Talking about if st X is going to win, they're
going to have to score a lot of points, well.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
And we're going to have to turn We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
For them because Moler is going to score, and they're
gonna score often, and they're gonna score a lot. If
st X wants to entertain any chance of winning this game,
they have got to find an offensive rhythm. Keep Moler
off the field. That's their only shot, I think, And
it's not their identity to run the football, sat X,
but they're I think, for them to be successful, they're
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going to have to run. For a multitude of reasons.
Keep to keep Maddie p and the boys off the field.
Get some complimentary football from their perspective, I just get
I get nervous from a psychological standpoint. But when you
take the x's and o's and you put them all
on the table.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
On paper, and that's why they play, and.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's why they playball, they.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Have to contain. Because you know Herbstreet does. He does
like the run. He runs better than he throws, that's
for sure. But look for those those quick passes almost
like a run, sure where they can kind of get
little chunk plays and eat up that clock. For sure.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Amen, Andy, I'm excited for this one. We will begin
with the Montgomery in countdown to kickoff, beginning at six
thirty from Atrium field. The game is sold out, so
we will have the game broadcast on the radio. Jeff Steele,
Rob Foltzoil happen on again Montgomery in countdown to kickoff
beginning and kicking that off at six thirty. Also Motown
beginning at four pm ish at the Mason Middle School
(38:44):
that'll be located across from Mason High School. Come on
out for that. I will make a special disclaimer for
folks having an expectation of staying and in Modetown and
watching the game. Marv will not be staying for the game.
Marve will be hitting the road at kickoff and being
returned to his home here on the campus of Muller
(39:07):
High School. So if you were planning on coming to
the game, tailgating and staying not an option at least
this Friday night. People like Motown, don't they.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
It's it's a fun time if you if you haven't
come out, come on out. You know, Barrett does a great.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Job, we do a great job of entertaining the troops.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And you have you have the m Fan thrillers there.
You know I'd say free food, but please donate to
the to the to the.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Call that those m Fan guys I mean, you know,
people talk about you and I in the and Marv
and the show we do and the music and all that,
but really it is driven by the m fan guys.
Kudos to Dom, Mikevonne and I'm gonna miss somebody. I'm
just gonna say, Dom and Crewe, there you go. Because
what they do is we went and visited Detroit earlier
(39:54):
this week, Uh, Detroit Catholic, and we kind of laid
out some of our engagement platforms and we talked about
this and the guy says it sounds like college game day.
I says, that's what it is. And so I think people,
myself included, take for granted that experience because we do
it every single Friday before every game, nearly every game.
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I think we do, and I think Molar fans do
take it for granted. The amount of people, the amount
of work it takes to pull that together for a
two hour, two and a half hour party is pretty special.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah. You know, my brother showed up with He's a
ninety four grand show up beings with Denny Marinis, who three,
and they didn't really know what to expect, and and
you know, Denny was like, man, I thought we were
just going to watch the game on a TV in
your trunk of your car or something. He had no
idea of the special tailgate that we have, and it's
(40:49):
it's an awesome time.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Good stuff. Andy. Do you have any other pungent comments?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Just the last thing. We don't want to discount anything else.
We got performing arts. The outs is coming here December twelfth,
thirteenth and fourteen, or eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth. I think
whatever that Thursday, Friday Saturday is at Molar The Outsiders
is gonna be awesome. Get your tickets there. Giving Tuesday.
Talk about that Giving Tuesday. We already kicked that off
(41:16):
with the alumni. We're gonna have a class competition, the
class that gives that has the highest percentage of giving
not dollar amount, but the highest percentage of giving Winds
Molar swag. That will be Tuesday, December third. Watch all
the social media you can give now, and when we
post this podcast, I will have a special link for
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the alumni and for anybody for that matter, of the
Giving Tuesday link. We're already about fourteen hundred dollars from
our alums. We have a goal of about thirty thousand dollars.
For the entire molar community for giving Tuesday. That'll be Tuesday,
December third. That's awesome. And in winter season sports, Barrett,
I mean we're finishing up football is the fall season's
(42:01):
winter season is already gone. I know, hockey's already played.
Bowling's got a big one. I think they kick it
off tonight, uh basketball, uh, swim, dive, wrestling, and indoor
track in January, so it never ends. At the Big
Mo for
Speaker 2 (42:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Have you put up your Christmas lights yet?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Have not?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Has Julie put them up yet?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you're one of those after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Typically, But we are going away leaving Saturday, coming actually
back on Thanksgiving. We're gonna celebrate with the family on
the following Saturday after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I put the tree up, you were Joey. I did, just.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Trying to get ahead of the game a little bit.
She does have a few decorations. We had the grandkids
over on Saturday and they got to kick out at
the oldest of four year old got to kick out
at helping Nana put the Christmas stuff up. So we
have a few decorations. We have the tree up, but
no lights, no ornaments, none of that's stuff, just so
(01:00):
we can we're not killed when we get back from
our little getaway.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
If Andy Nagels putting up a Christmas tree, do you
have Christmas music in the background playing to get you
in the movie. Of course, I know. Now where did
you go? Do you go to Spotify?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I just I just hey, Alexa, Holiday Classic, that's right,
that's right. And I was all by myself. Julie was out.
I don't know where she was. I did it on Sunday.
I just sat there, had a couple of coffee, had
the Christmas tunes on. You were you were locked it
(01:40):
was you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Were locked in. You turned you turned on, Uh, what's
that channel? The Hallmark Channel? Found yourself a little uh
little Christmas show? A Christmas story.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We watched one last night in Netflix, the first Christmas movie.
We sat, well, my wife picked it out. I kind
of that and absorbed it. But uh, Netflix, I would
I would give a bad review on Hot Frosty. It
is like the number one movie on Netflix right now.
It's called Hot Frosty.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Sounds like a show we should not be talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's about a snowman that comes to life.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No figure, that's weird, that's original, horrible.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We kept looking at each other like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
This is what you watch? The whole thing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Goodness, of course, all right, let's let's wait real quick
On that note, doesn't Tom Gregory watch that year round?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
He loves those Christmas.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And Pam and he's not ashamed to admit it. That's
that's the sad thing, not a shame to admit it.
Let's segue from Christmas movies and setting up to Andy
Nagle's golf game, because I understand Jim smoked you on
the golf course, yes the other day, you want to
talk about that for the millions and millions of people listening.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Tradition, we do an annual thing around gym's birthday's birthday.
My oldest is he turned thirty. His birthday's November fourteenth,
and typically I'll take the boys golf and in and
around his birthday. We caught a perfect day. Our advancement
team and Barrett was included, went up to Detroit and
I somehow got a Hall pass off that one, which
(03:22):
I was grateful to Mary Fisher forgiving me that. But
they had a productive day in Detroit and I had
a semi productive day on the golf course. I did
lose to my eldest, but I tell you here's my
golf game in a nutshell. Bert went. We played at
Shaker Run. Ryan Nightingale More two thousand grad the head
pro up there, welcome this with open arms. The front nine.
(03:46):
I had four pars and still shot a fifty. That's
how bad. That's how sporadic my game is.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's frustrating. It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know, it's always two shots or a shot, an
added shot into you know, a toff shot.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Ye good weather, Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It was great. It was sixty five sixty seven degrees,
was a little cloudy, but there was nobody out there.
I think we clipped around in under four hours, had
a blast, a lot of good laughs, a lot of
good time, and it's always good to spend with with
your sons as they get older.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So it was awesome, good stuff. Andy, A big game
Friday night Moeller Saint X on the heels of Coach
Faust last week and just a lot of emotions flying
around this place, certainly a lot of memories with Coach
Faust and and a lot of people talking about yesteryear
and all the teams he had. We're going to have
(04:40):
on the show, and just a bit Jim Lippencott to
talk about his time here at Moeller, his time at
Cincinnati Bengals, his memories of that this Moeller Saint X game,
But what are some of your memories of whether it
could Obviously, being a former baseball coach, here a lot
of that rivalry more, but some people will play down
the rivalry. And I and Batman and Robin Need who
(05:08):
is it, Joker, Jecter, Riddler, Penguin correct, any one of those?
You know, Darth Vader Needs, Luke Skywalker, like Michigan Ohio
State like I don't like the in st X is
saying the same thing about Muller. There's no doubt about it.
But I like rivalries. I think it makes the institutions
(05:30):
better when you have those rivalries. But there is a
there's a line of demarcation to where you want these
guys to stay locked in. Talk about your experience.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I dislike Saint X. I'll come right out and say it.
I got no problem saying that. You know, when I
was here in my senior year, they bumped us in
the regional finals in baseball, and it's it's always kind
of been one of those. And then you know, when
I was coaching here with coach Held, it's amazing the
fan mail you get or the comments you get. You
(06:01):
can lose to anybody, but when you lose the Saint X,
the reaction from the molar community in the outside community
is is I think a lot of people feel the same,
and it's it's kind of one of those anybody but
Saint X type mantra and I've never experienced that before
with any other schools, but it's it's crazy and that's that,
(06:23):
you know, that's the definition of that rivalry. And you know,
I think a lot of it comes to the outside
perception of Saint X for some reason, having that public
perception that they're better than more or you know, they're
the they're this elite high school, whether it's elite academics,
which I mean, I'm telling you right now, we just
(06:44):
came out with that report a couple of weeks ago, Barrett.
We're the only all boys school in the state of
Ohio that reached that platinum status in that ap So
it's it's not there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Let me remind you again. I mean the all time
record the plea against that team Mowler forty seven twenty
four and one and they've been around since Appner doubl Edday.
How we looking, big boy?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, I just you know, it is what it is.
I dislike say next, and I'll say it. I got
no problem saying that at all.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You have company, my friend. All right, we're gonna step
away for a moment. When we come back, we have
Jim Lippincott. Of course, being in studio might have a
special guest from one of those guys that the Molar
football team will be back after this. You're listening to
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of Moeller High School and The Big Mo Podcast. Welcome
back to the Big Mo Podcast, and we have a
special guest in the studio, a member of the Moller
football team who was on countdown to kickoff last week
and Uh, I was impressed you. Uh you speak well.
You got that deep breast, deep Bresby voice. Javon Love,
(08:46):
Javon Love, Jovon Love. Tell everybody how to say it again, Joe,
I've been saying it wrong forever.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Now it's a baseball guy too, come on, don't get him.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He's a baseball guy. I'm posturing as a football player, Jovon.
I want to talk talented athlete about before we talk
about anything else that hit on Friday night. So for
folks that were there, I had a guy, a fan,
give him a big shout out on the air in
a minute. But we was talking to a fan last
night who said, who is number thirteen? Kevin Deacon came
(09:19):
up to me and said, who's thirteen? I said, that's
that's mister love. He said that was one of the
hardest hits he's seen. Now, So you catch the ball,
all right? When did you make eye contact with that dude,
that Princeton Viking coming down? We had to be within seconds.
Oh man, it was probably less than that. I like,
as soon as I turned up the corner, he was
right there. And I was like, so I went through
(09:41):
the old line and I was just trying to like
move my way past them, and I didn't see him
until I turned turned the corner and he was right there.
And I didn't really have a chance to really like,
I mean, I braced myself, but it was like you.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Low boom, you didn't brace yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You've delivered it if you look at the video, Like,
I like just turned my shoulder. I wasn't really like
bracing for Like, I wasn't really getting low as I
should have. Like I was just bracing for that contact.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So what would have happened if you would have gotten
low like you should.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Have probably had a stretcher on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So your mercy, I mean, did you get your bell
rung a little bit yourself? Yeah? He hit me.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
He hit me pretty good. I was just bigger than him?
How are we looking all right?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So, Jay Love, we got a big win on Friday,
You got a big win on it. But it's like,
you know, we talk, I keep saying faceless opponent. It's
just another faciless opponent. What's practice been like this week
getting ready for the game the regional final on Friday?
Because here's here's a benefit that I think you guys have.
You've been there before three times, to be exact, this
football team three consecutive times coming into this game. Talk
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about practice this week and the advantages of that, of
being in this in these spotlights before.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, everybody's locked in. We know that are We know
our opponent pretty well. We know how big of a
game it is, how big of a rivalry it is,
And we're really locked in. I mean, we know what's
on the line right now, and we know like how
we're gonna come out and execute. You know, we got
like we played them before. We know their weaknesses. We
also know their strengths too, so we're just really preparing
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to face that they got a couple of guys that
are a little banged up, So we're just looking to
see like how they're going to come out and respond
to that and we'll make our adjustments from there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And I was going to ask you, you know, because
because football is a game of adjustments, I mean, how
uncomfortable is it for you guys not knowing who and
they have that same concern not knowing who's going to
be out there. There's always an adjustment of maybe a
series or two right both sides of the ball. What
walk me through that and what's that like as you
guys go through those early adjustments.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It's not uncomfortable at all. I mean, we we're gonna
go out and play. We don't care who's out on
the other side. Uh, We're just going out and go
out and play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Important is that swag that this football?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh, it's probably our identity, that's what Like, that's what.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You guys like that before the season started.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, that's who That's just who we are. I mean,
we go out with a swagger. We don't care who's
on the other side. Like, we're gonna come out and play.
We're gonna come out and hit you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I think that's what makes our team so tough to handle,
is that, Like you can come out and score in
the first drive. I mean, it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter,
we're gonna come out and throw the ball. We're gonna
come out run the ball on you, and you got
to learn how to defend it for four quarters.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think watching your offense and you you've been in
some situations where it's been tight. I mean not every
game's a blowout, but just the calmness that you guys have.
There's no panic in your offense out you know you
can score on any given play. You're that dynamic offensively
with all the weapons that you guys have. Talk a
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little bit about keeping your cool in the huddle, knowing
that you're gonna score, and having a guy like Matty
b that knows where you're at at all times and
delivers the ball, Like coming out of that route, he'd
already let go of that ball and it's on you,
I mean, boom it. It just seems that he has
that that relationship with his receivers that are it's just special, man.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, that's that's the trust that we have on this team.
I mean, everybody's dudes. Everybody. If you look at our offense,
our whole our whole lineup is all dudes. Like we
all have the ability to go play at that D
one level, and we're all, you know, we're all in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The fact that you can drop your egos. That's what's
gonna make you win ultimately. If if you guys can,
if you're not worried about Hey, I need my touches,
so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And we talked about that in the preseason. You know,
how does how does Maddie pee? Because you're dealing with
high school dudes, right, how does Mattie p keep everybody happy?
And it's worked out, it really is because of that
selfless what Andy's talking about, that selfless approach to the game.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, multiple games that will have a couple other like
we have multiple guys that are touching the rock and
getting their yards. I mean, not every game is going
to be like that. Not every game he's gonna like,
how five guys with over eighty yards? I mean, but
that's just how the game goes. You got to learn
how to move past that, and once you get the rock,
you got to learn how to really like make it count.
I mean, it's all on you once you have the rock,
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Like matt did his job getting it to you, but
it's your job to execute and really get up the field.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Because when you hoist that trophy at the end of
the year. Everybody gets to put a hand on it.
Of course, a really special thing. Practice. This week you
said locked in. The weather is starting to finally break
a little bit. It should be dry at kickoff on Friday,
but cold. Does that have any impact at all?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, we got heaters on the sideline for a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That Jaddy hig out Margate with that with that bullet
heater blowing heavy. Not bad, Marty, not bad. J Love,
thank you so much for everything, Uh for coming on
here and good luck on Friday night. Hopefully we'll be
doing this again next Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's Jay Love on the Big Mo Podcast. When we
come back, we have Jim Lippincott, former Cincinnati Bengal headcub
not head coach, but former Cincinnati Bengal coach and Molar coach.
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Bou podcast and it's it's that week. It's the playoffs
round What is this, Andy Dage, I have no idea
what this is.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I believe this is round three.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Round three, ding ding, ding ding. And we have a
special guest to talk about the rivalry.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Round four Regional Finals.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I know it's the regional final, but you know, after
after hover many weeks now to fourteen weeks. It kind
of you just who we playing. That's really all that matters.
Speaking of all that matters, let's bring on a Molar
football legend. Former Cincinnati Bengal coach also man of Molar
coach Jim Lippincott and coach. Welcome to the Big Mo Podcast.
(17:14):
Thanks for taking some time to talk about the big
rivalry that is Molar insane.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
X that it is and good morning to both of
you that it is. It is a big rapperry.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Before we talk about the game and your history, your
your your iteration of it, kind of tell people when
you were at Molar and when you were at the
Bengal was what you did at Cedric. You're on the clock.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I was at Mollar the first time in nineteen eighty one,
and I came as an English teacher and linebacker coach.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So right after coaching, I was left.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
It took three or four people to replace him, and
I was one.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Of them, that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Then my second year, I was a defensive coordinator, and
then eventually I became associate athletic director and then athletic
director and then in nineteen ninety one, after that, see
it was I left March first of ninety two. March
first of ninety two, I went to work for Mike
Mike Brown and the Bengals, and I went down there
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as a scout, and then eventually I was a director
of player personnel and a director of scouting or director
of football, whatever the title I had, but essentially I
was a scout. I find them, sign them, and cut them.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Tell everybody. Tell everybody what you're most known for. We've
had you on the show before talking about this. For
folks that haven't listened, your most popular, maybe not popular.
Tell everybody, tell everybody about that.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're talking about Hard Knocks. Yes, yes, sir, Yeah, okay, yeah.
Hard Knocks was really a good experience. It was a
matter of fact, it was a great experience. Like take
my hat off to those people. Yeah, they you know.
We lived at Georgetown College for training camp, and there
was a crew, a camera crew. They would follow me
around and they'd be sitting outside my door, like at
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six in the morning. Because I knew I was an
early riser, and when I waved cut people and waved them,
I did it very early in the morning so I
could have access to all the flights that might be
available during the day and number two, they didn't have
to face their teammates. So we went through the first
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morning of cutting players and I went over to have
breakfast with Mike, which I usually did each morning, and
he told me not to look at the paper. He
told me not to look at TV and not to
listen to the radio. That I was getting butchered all
over the country for being heartless and mean. And they
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didn't like the way I was talking to the players
when I waved them. But when I waved them, I
simply told them that the Bengals of putting you on
waivers today, which means you did not make the team.
I didn't calm them. I didn't tell them what a
great job they did. If they did a great job,
they'd been making the team right. I was as simple
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and succinct and business like as I could. And then
I informed them.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
About you never use the phrase it's it's not you,
it's me. No, And I think what I watched.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I watched these other hard knocks, and these people that
are cutting guys are getting on there and saying, oh,
this is the toughest thing I've had to do. Well,
that kid didn't care about that he cares about his career,
and you should be a little more gracious, you know,
and respectful when when you tell these players that their
dreams over. If you play football or any sport and
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you take the uniform off for the last time, that's traumatic.
That is traumatic, and I think the people that cut
players from with his other team, I should think about that.
I was lucky. I learned from a guy named Frank
Smouse who learned from Paul Brown. I did it exactly
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the way Peb did it. And that's why I did
it that way is because his logic was you should
be more respectful to the players than that. And remember
that you're telling them that even though they tried as
hard as they can, their their dream of playing pro
football is over.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
What was the worst reaction that you got? I mean,
because as you said, that's a life changing experience for
a lot of these guys. Some will see other teams right,
get other opportunities, but for many guys it is.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Their last chance. Well, when you're telling them, they don't
know that, correct? When they called their agents after I
leave the room, they will be told that by their agent,
and the agent then will be getting on the phone
and is trying to muster up business. But there was
a college free agent offensive lineman. Why we were still
at Wilmington College, and I waved him and uh he
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wanted to take a walk. So we went outside and
we were walked and he just broke down. Cried and
he cried and he tried because his parents had always
told him that if you do your best, everything will
work out. Well, he did his best. It just wasn't
good enough. Uh So we send him on his way,
but I would uh calling him once in a while,
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just let's see how he's doing. He's made plans and
gotten on with life and uh so that part worked out, okay,
But yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Know, I know it's a business and I know you
took that you know, business approach, you know that, that
Paul Brown model. Yeah, but but still as a as
a as a as a dad, as a father, as
a man, it's still got to be tough. Man. I mean,
you're you're you know. Uh And and that example you
just had, did you kind of switch from you know,
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the turk so to speak to a more fatherly figure
as you're walking with this with this young man and
he's breaking down, did you kind of turn to Okay,
I really need to be there for this guy, man.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I had. I learned that lesson through my son. My
son was a senior at Moler and he played his
last game at Princeton High School and they lost, and
David's team was five and five. They didn't get to
enjoy the fruits of their labor as much as others have.
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But anyway, I went out on the field and he
walked up to me and he just maybe he just
put his arms around me and laid his head on
my shoulder and he began to cry, and he.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Cried really hard.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
And then I realized that I failed him as a father,
and here I am in this profession. I didn't take
the time to tell him that when this game's over,
this would be one of the stadtest events of your life.
And so I learned lessen the hard way, because I
made the mistake of not pairing enough. And so yes,
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when that young man wanted to take a walk, I
did it happily.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, Coach, let's kind of transition if we could into
the game that's coming up. On Friday night, the Saint
Xavier Bombers. Moelers had their way with the Bombers for
some time. Now, walk me through the emotions of this game.
And how many times can you recount that you actually
played st X off the top of your head? And
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what was that game like? And did you ever play
him in the playoffs? Oh?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
We did, Yes, we did. How many times? Let's see
if eighty one once eighty two? We played them in
the playoffs in two thousand and twelve, I think it
was twenty twelve. We may have played them twice. I
think we had them at the Knippert Stadium in the playoffs.
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So other than that, I think we've played them every year,
just once, which means there may have been another playoff
game at Solfa Field and I'm not remembering right now.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Let me ask you this. I'm gonna buy you a
hot fudge Sunday if you can get this right. You
ready for this? In fact, I'm gonna step it up
if you get this right. George Smith from the Athletic Department,
who just walked in the studio, I'm going to have
him give you season tickets to next year's Molar football
game football season. If you can nail the exact record
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of the Molar Crusaders versus the Saint Xavier Bombers the
all time record. If you can nail it, you get
season tickets to next year's Molar Crusader football season. Are
you prepared to be on the hot seat to answer.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I'm gonna try. Yes, I'll do it all right if.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You get it right. There's a lot of steak here.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I wave a white flag again.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Forty seven, twenty four and one against the Sea. How
are we looking, Marty.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
You know, that's the one thing about football fans. We
keep calling these things rivalries, correct, correct, And to there
to be a rivalry, there's got to be some equality,
a number of wins. For example, I saw somewhere maybe
on the Bengal website or someplace, that we're forty and
seven against them. That's that's not a rivalry. It's a
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fun game against too, against Princeton.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Princeton, I got you, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, And it's a fun game. But I've told this story.
I told this story a million times. In nineteen eighty two,
we were ranked number one in the USA. Today we're
a first team in the country, and they were third,
and we were playing them in the tenth game at Princeton.
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Thousands and thousands of people wanted to see the game.
But anyway, now keep remember now first and third in
the country, and at halftime we were around forty two
to nothing, and I remember coach Connie and saying, what
are we going to do now? And I said, We're
going in there, and coach like Hall, that's what we're
going to do. And we ended up beating them like
fifty six to seven. And then the next week we
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had to play them again and it was a very
similar score.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But uh, let me, well, let me ask you this though,
what what are you saying because you say it's not
a rivalry, and you you certain you certainly you certainly
have some uh you got some proof, some evid dances
we like to call it to make that argument, but
it's but but from a from a student, a lot
of these kids know each other. They they play summer ball,
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AAU basketball together, they play they're in all these you
know now they got black sheep and all these offseason
conditioning places. They're conditioning with each other all season. So
from that respect, I think it is a rivalry. Rivalry
maybe not by records, but in these games, these kids
sometimes they get they get vapor locked mentally. You know,
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if you're if you're Burt Banthyany and you're at practice
this week, what are you telling these guys at practice
and then maybe even in the pregame.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
That's very simple. I just had a text message conversation
with the Running Back Church about this very same thing
at MOLA. Before these big games. I would tell them
that there are memorable things in life, and there are
life altering things, and what we're about to do is
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not life altering. It's memorable. So enjoy the moment, play
as hard as you can, and we'll accept the consequences
whatever they are. That don't get yourself all built up
thinking that this is a life all Traine moment. And
then I would go through and talk about what the
life all Trained moments were. And I'll tell you a
side story to that. When I did it in twenty twelve,
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Sam Herbert was kneeling to my right and I gave
him talk out about the next year twenty thirteen, I'm
ready to give it again. This is the night before
the state championship game. I am looked up at me
and he says, are you going to tell us what
memorable events and life of all Trined events are? Again?
And I had to laugh. It's another indication of his memory.
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But anyway, anyway, I must define rivalry different than most.
To me, I think a rivalry has to be a
contest between two institutions or two teams that are evenly
matched and closely in battle. On them, maybe you'd have
as many wins and losses as the other. I think
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what you just described, Barrett is called a game that's
fun to play, because yeah, yeah, because there are games
where we know the people. Yeah, no, there's no question.
John Sabotello was the offensive coordinator at Saying Next most
of my first tour of Dutiot Moeller, and we became
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good friends and uh and we enjoyed calling plays against
each other. I'm sure that with all they have to
do to work out and the availability of working out
different places, what you just said is absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And I think you, now a coach, add social media
into that as well. You didn't have social media.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, we didn't, wit, No,
we didn't. And so to me, this is a game
that's fun to play. But the running that coach at
Maler now, Eric Ogletree is one of my proegees. I
had him as an assistant at with Throw for a year.
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He's a great coach, great coach, and anyway, I was
wishing him good luck, and I was reminding him of
the life alterraining moments speech and that not to let
his players get too tied up and what the stakes are.
To enjoy the moment when they walk out on the
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field and Mason Stadium is full. Enjoy that and then
just play as hard as you can every snap and
accept the consequences, whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Andy Nagel was telling in my producer ear right now
that he you know, you're not going to be able
to speak to the team on Friday, but Andy says,
invite him to Motown and he can give his life
altering speech at Motown on Friday night. I don't. I know,
you're still you're recooping from a recent surgery. But if
you can make it, we would love to have you
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on Motown.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah. I'm not I'm not getting that. I'm not getting
around all that well yet. I tried to. I went
over to Mason Stadium since I lived right here by that,
I went over to Mason Stadium to try to walk.
And I'm embarrassed to say how far I got for
I was gassed. It wasn't very far.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, the good news is you don't have to walk
in marve. You can just sit right down in our
tailgate unit. But I get it, yeah, I get it. Yeah.
But when you're ready, we're ready for you to row
out the blue and gold carpet coach. That does so
much for for for joining us. I really appreciate it.
And hap former Cincinnati Bengal coach, former Moler coach, which
we've had you on before. I'm sure we'll have you
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on many times more. But your insight is uh, is
is very cool. So I really appreciate you taking and
now your daughter works for more. I mean, it's full circle.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
She's the heart and soul of our family. I'm telling
you that I'll children David Kelly. But Kelly is uh uh,
she's just she's just a flower, a months, a bunch
of thorns.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Everyone talking about Are you talking about your family? No?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
No, I'm talking about Kelly. You'll get you'll have fun
being around Kelly. She's very pleasant, she's very lovable, and
she's very bright. Well I don't know where she got
I got a bunch of I don't know where she
got her intelligence, but it wasn't from me.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's good to have a lipping cod back at high school.
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
A man. I gotta she loves it there.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
She she loves it there.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I got a bunch of Jim Lippincott stories on our
way to Detroit. Her and I went to Detroit. I'll see,
I'll save those were off the air.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah, that's pretty good idea.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That Jim Lippincott, former Cincinnati Bengal coach and also Moller
football coach. Coach, thanks you so much for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Thanks coach An, you got it anytime.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He's a good d You know something about just a
real quick side story where Jim Libcott was in my life.
He was the athletic director when I was here at Moeler.
I went to college, like you said, he got that
job in ninety two with the Bengals. I graduated from
Walsh College in ninety two and with a communications marketing degree.
I had sent a letter to Mike Brown. I knew
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they did not have a marketing department or I mean
it was bare bones back in the nineties. They didn't
have anything, but I sent this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
As a way up until a year or two.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I sent a letter to Mike Brown saying, Hey, I
would love to work for the Bengals and marketing whatever communications,
And he sent me a letter back, a handwritten letter,
and he referenced that Jim Lippencott gave me a even
though they weren't hiring at that time, but Jim gave
me a glowing reference recommendation.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So that's awesome, pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, it was pretty cool to get that back from
Mike and into him.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You still have the letter from probably.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Somewhere in a box, you know how you keep kind
of that stuff. But but but coach Lippis is a
great guy. I mean he was. He was awesome when
he when he was here at Molar.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
A lot of fun, very cool. Andy, We're gonna take
a step, take a break, we'll be back. You're listening
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well deserved honors. Back in a Big Bo podcast, Another
good one, Andy Nagel and can we start tailgating now?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's the excitement around here.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The flags out on the Crusader. That's a that's a
traditional thing here at school. But uh, you know, it's
it's it's it's it's say next week, it's it's beat
up X, you know. And that's I got a I
got an email from from seventy five alum Jimmy Donald
and the last thing that he, you know, he sent
me his email and the very last two words was
beat X. And he must have put it in like
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a sixty font you know, so because that's right the alumni,
I know that they know the importance of this game. Uh.
It gives them, you know, it gives us bragging rights.
Uh when we when we see you know, whether it's
in a work situation or whatever professional situation. You see
a Saint X alum, you can kind of stick your
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chest down and say we got you this week. Again.
I like how at the end, but you know, you know,
look looking, you know, we we haven't dissected this game much, beart,
but had a big lead early in the year. You know,
herb Street ran for that that first play opening touchdown
and then they didn't score. We went up what twenty
eight to seven? Uh, and then it turned into a shootout.
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You know last year, you know this playoff game that
we played it X. It might have been Week two
or week three. It was a ten to seven games.
So I know that you get nervous with these games.
I just think if the offense does what the offense does, and.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Talking about if st X is going to win, they're
going to have to score a lot of points, well.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
And we're going to have to turn We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
For them because Moler is going to score, and they're
gonna score often, and they're gonna score a lot. If
st X wants to entertain any chance of winning this game,
they have got to find an offensive rhythm. Keep Moler
off the field. That's their only shot, I think, And
it's not their identity to run the football, sat X,
but they're I think, for them to be successful, they're
(37:42):
going to have to run. For a multitude of reasons.
Keep to keep Maddie p and the boys off the field.
Get some complimentary football from their perspective, I just get
I get nervous from a psychological standpoint. But when you
take the x's and o's and you put them all
on the table.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
On paper, and that's why they play, and.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's why they playball, they.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Have to contain. Because you know Herbstreet does. He does
like the run. He runs better than he throws, that's
for sure. But look for those those quick passes almost
like a run, sure where they can kind of get
little chunk plays and eat up that clock. For sure.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Amen, Andy, I'm excited for this one. We will begin
with the Montgomery in countdown to kickoff, beginning at six
thirty from Atrium field. The game is sold out, so
we will have the game broadcast on the radio. Jeff Steele,
Rob Foltzoil happen on again Montgomery in countdown to kickoff
beginning and kicking that off at six thirty. Also Motown
beginning at four pm ish at the Mason Middle School
(38:44):
that'll be located across from Mason High School. Come on
out for that. I will make a special disclaimer for
folks having an expectation of staying and in Modetown and
watching the game. Marv will not be staying for the game.
Marve will be hitting the road at kickoff and being
returned to his home here on the campus of Muller
(39:07):
High School. So if you were planning on coming to
the game, tailgating and staying not an option at least
this Friday night. People like Motown, don't they.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
It's it's a fun time if you if you haven't
come out, come on out. You know, Barrett does a great.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Job, we do a great job of entertaining the troops.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And you have you have the m Fan thrillers there.
You know I'd say free food, but please donate to
the to the to the.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Call that those m Fan guys I mean, you know,
people talk about you and I in the and Marv
and the show we do and the music and all that,
but really it is driven by the m fan guys.
Kudos to Dom, Mikevonne and I'm gonna miss somebody. I'm
just gonna say, Dom and Crewe, there you go. Because
what they do is we went and visited Detroit earlier
(39:54):
this week, Uh, Detroit Catholic, and we kind of laid
out some of our engagement platforms and we talked about
this and the guy says it sounds like college game day.
I says, that's what it is. And so I think people,
myself included, take for granted that experience because we do
it every single Friday before every game, nearly every game.
(40:16):
I think we do, and I think Molar fans do
take it for granted. The amount of people, the amount
of work it takes to pull that together for a
two hour, two and a half hour party is pretty special.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah. You know, my brother showed up with He's a
ninety four grand show up beings with Denny Marinis, who three,
and they didn't really know what to expect, and and
you know, Denny was like, man, I thought we were
just going to watch the game on a TV in
your trunk of your car or something. He had no
idea of the special tailgate that we have, and it's
(40:49):
it's an awesome time.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Good stuff. Andy. Do you have any other pungent comments?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Just the last thing. We don't want to discount anything else.
We got performing arts. The outs is coming here December twelfth,
thirteenth and fourteen, or eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth. I think
whatever that Thursday, Friday Saturday is at Molar The Outsiders
is gonna be awesome. Get your tickets there. Giving Tuesday.
Talk about that Giving Tuesday. We already kicked that off
(41:16):
with the alumni. We're gonna have a class competition, the
class that gives that has the highest percentage of giving
not dollar amount, but the highest percentage of giving Winds
Molar swag. That will be Tuesday, December third. Watch all
the social media you can give now, and when we
post this podcast, I will have a special link for
(41:39):
the alumni and for anybody for that matter, of the
Giving Tuesday link. We're already about fourteen hundred dollars from
our alums. We have a goal of about thirty thousand dollars.
For the entire molar community for giving Tuesday. That'll be Tuesday,
December third. That's awesome. And in winter season sports, Barrett,
I mean we're finishing up football is the fall season's
(42:01):
winter season is already gone. I know, hockey's already played.
Bowling's got a big one. I think they kick it
off tonight, uh basketball, uh, swim, dive, wrestling, and indoor
track in January, so it never ends. At the Big
Mo for
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Andy Nago, Big Mo Barriot on the Big Mo podcast
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