May 7, 2025 • 50 mins
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Karson Hobbs stops in from Notre Dame
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Karson Hobbs stops in from Notre Dame
Cooper McCutchan commits to Coach Belichik at North Carolina
Karen Matuszek finishes it off.
Huge show with Barrett and Andy Nagel
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
WMOE and the Moula Broadcasting that what probably was that?
The Big Mo Podcast. The Big Mo Podcast is brought
to you by Pharma twenty four, Crassmin Electric and Revey
Landscaping and now your hosts Andy Nagel and Big Mo Barrett.
How many times, Andy does it take to record the
intro to the Big Mo Podcast? This is like take
(00:23):
number ten, one, one, just one. It's another rendition of
the b MP and Andy, We're gonna get right to
it because we have a we've got a longer show.
We got some breaking news that happened today this morning.
Cooper McCutcheon has committed to play football and continue his
academic education at North Carolina. And when you say North Carolina,
(00:47):
you can't leave out the name Bill Belichick. So we're
gonna talk to Coop about his big decision circus. Yeah,
we're gonna talk to Coop about his big decision committing
to North Carolina and the goat Bill Belichick. We got
Karen mctousic coming on the show talking about the twentieth
anniversary of the House System, and of course we'll have
(01:08):
we have Carson Hobbs. He was in here last week
and if you haven't heard that. We will include our
special interview with who a lot of people may think
we'll compete for a starting job in South Bend and
that being Carson Hobb Hobbs as well. You are a
notre dame guy, so I know you're going to enjoy
that as well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We did, and we did that last week, like you
talked about. We sent snippets of that out and I'm
telling you, Barrett, I know we both talked about it
last year. We both had our reservations.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Boy is this guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're really gonna make it at South Bend and he's
killing it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He was a totally different person when we met with
him last week than the Carson Hobbs that graduated twelve
months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He's always he's always been. He was born to be
on radio, born to be on camera. He's really, really really.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
But he told you about it twelve months ago. He's
very humble.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Uh it was.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It was awesome. It was great to see and I
can't I can't wait to see him on the football
field this year and wish him all the best.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Man. Gotta be fun. We got Carson Hobbs, Cooper McCutcheon
and Karen Mettusick on the b MP. We'll be back
and we'll get it off started on the best coverage
of Molar High School. It's w m OE the Molar
Broadcasting Network and the Big Mo Podcast. And there's side
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of the.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Comyn Charger.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's a special rendition to the Big Mo Podcast. Dandy
Nagel and yours truly Big Mo Barrett with a guy
that has been on the podcast a few times. In fact,
I will take credit personally for his ability to speak
so eloquently on the air, whether it's National TV, whether
it's South Carson Hobbs, the Pride of the Man and
(03:18):
the Pride of South Bend in Notre Dame. I take
one credit for your ability to sound really good. Do
you disagree with that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, that's the wildest statement I've heard this year.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is it accurate? Though? Well? Thank you. Next question, Carson Man,
you walked out of your once again. You should see
what he's rolling in a BMW ben this Nil street
and our menimole a pretty darn well. But listen, you
jumped out of that thing and you look like a
(03:51):
dude when you were here. I remember freshman year, and
I've told you this before. If you turned sideways in class,
the teacher would count you absent. You look like am
I wrong? I was about one sixty five so you're wet. Yeah,
but now you look like a guy that plays football
for Notre name. The weight room has treated you well
(04:14):
before we get dive into it. Nandy Nagle is a homer,
big time Notre Dame guy, so he's probably gonna have
a load of questions for you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
How you doing soon? Beyond blessed on this.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I wake up every day and thank God for the
opportunity to be able to, you know, be able to
come home, visit my school and just play from my
dream school.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And it's just life's great. It can't get much better.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What was it like when you walk down at the
sugar I was getting It was a Sugar Bowl, no origiball.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, with the Natty game.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
In the National Championship Game. And I think we talked
to you a little bit about before what it was
going to be like, right the week before you you
were kind enough.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
To die down in New Orleans shooting and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, but we just talked about when we were
in courtyard outside just a year ago you were graduating
from Molar High School and now and what has transpired
in your life? Yeah? From a year ago graduating from Molar,
I remember you. I remember the Santas Center. You were
pearly whites man ear to ear, You're about to chase
a dream. And since then, you've got a year under
(05:19):
your belt academically, you've competed at the highest stage in
college football. And here you are back where you grew
up here at Molar High School. What's it all been
like for you? The process?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Where do you ask?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I would compare it to exactly like how it wasn't
Molar for me, But I just think it tells a
story about my faith and just how you got to
trust God. So when I came into Molar my freshman year,
I can recall having the school record for leader of detentions,
being undisciplined, and just not being able to fully understand
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my purpose. And I think when I first got to
Notre Dame, I had a relapse of not understanding my
purpose because you go into a place of Okay, I'm
a little fish and a big pond, rather than coming
from a big fish in a little pond. When I
was a senior in high school, at Moler, So in
my first couple of months, becoming a true master of
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my talents was the hardest thing to do because I
would just say, when you have a hundred other guys
around you, and they all have your talents and they're
all good, what makes you different?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And it took me to.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Get my competitive self and my edge and my confidence
back like I have now to be able to get
to that point. But when I first got there as
a freshman, I just don't think I was mature enough
to be able to handle what Notre Dame was ready
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I have a great question before Andy gets into
I'm not going to get what would Carson Hobbs today
tell Carson Hobbs who was a senior And I know
that Carson Hobbs it was a senior. Yeah, what would
the Carson Hobbs today tell the Carson Hobbs who was
a senior who didn't know why those rules existed, who
(07:06):
didn't always follow the line. What would you say to
that guy today?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, every detail matters, like your routine, your habits, and
every single thing you do in your life becomes.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Consistency, and consistency.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Is the only way to achieve greatness I believe. So
that's what we speak about in our weight room. And
it's like an everyday thing, Like I know my routine.
I know when I wake up, the first thing I'm
gonna do is pray. I'm gonna go to workouts, I'm
gonna go to class, I'm gonna eat at a certain
time at a certain period in between a period, and
I'm gonna go to sleep between a certain window. And
I do the same thing every single day and that
(07:37):
builds consistency.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I listen to the exact same Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
When you and when you're doing, when you find your
routine and it starts working for you, that's where the
confidence comes from.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And then you feel unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
But you have a leader and coach Freeman coach Mike
yeh that I mean talk about faith filled guys. Yeah,
and those routines. It has to make it easy to
look to those two guys and say, man with.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
The role models right right, So, I mean you go
to a school where you want to be disciplined, you
want to be coach for the best ability and play
for the highest level. Well, when we talk in terms
of having a faith based structure and coming from a
high school like Moler that produces you know, really edequate
and good guys. Why not, you know, go from my
dream school. Why not go to Notre Dame. It's the
(08:26):
perfect match. And coming from a Catholic school and then
carrying the same traditions and only building my faith in
a smaller group of people compared to other colleges, like
you know, Notre Dame smaller, so you know, you compare us.
There's not much to do, so a lot of times
you find yourself alone, and in that window is why
you see the success rate they have because so much
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time spent alone is equivalent to where they're dedicating their
studies to and where they're dedicating their faith to.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And that's I feel like, why God put me there.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I couldn't go to a giant school and not have
a coach making coach free in my life because it
wouldn't have been good for me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
That just wasn't my path.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It had to be this option, I feel like, because
it's the only way to keep me disciplined and it's
making me who I am.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And like you said, those guys are in your like
I'm not gonna say and I'm probably gonna speak out
of school. But it's somebody like a Nick Saban and
and those bigger coaches, you know, they have all the
assistants and you really don't have much. You may not
have much interaction with a big but but coach Freeman
and coach I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They're right there with you.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean every day, all day, very accessible with everything
you need.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And they can be good or bad, you know. Correct.
I just got to carp coach big yesterday. My staff.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
He didn't like so it me and a couple of
guys did. So it was just like he is not
shy to correct you. But you always know the difference
between a person when they're trying to correct you for
something that they think is ticky, tacky or truly coming.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
From genuine love, right, I know? And not there name
has been nothing.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
But love and it's just continued to grow and help
build and elevate me.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, and he get that door. We have some guys
here that want to see Carson Hobbs and say hello
to Carson. But Carson, what was the my question? Next
question for you is that transition? Uh see, you gotta
you gotta give a little bit of love. That's one
of my favorite things here is seeing, is seeing Carson
(10:20):
interact with some of his former teammates, and that this
guy is one of the most quietest guys here in
the entire Well, let's put a headset on him, but
he was hooping. Put a headset on here, but he was.
Carson introduced everyone, I'm hooking this up. Introduce everybody to
who we have in the studio.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Guys have junior Christian Harris, football, Christian Harris. I'm gonna
foller de tackle A promise you he gonna get a
sack every time.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Christian, what's your memory favorite memory of Carson? Carson, you
gotta have. You gotta have a couple of them, right,
I don't even know. It's a lot of memories. I
probably have to say, you guys a little argument that fact.
He's going back and forth, you know, but because you know,
Carson likes to talk, really.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Let it talk.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm a trash talker too.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
But you know, we got it's a little accident, you know,
but at the end of the day, you know, you
got to hold your team is accountable.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know. Could we see him, could we see him
at Notre Dame. He'd be a great pick up. Are
you working your Mojo, Christian.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The best recruiters they have any college, any team is
the current players.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Facts, absolutely, and our coaches will be in here probably
definitely this month.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Actually, Yeah, lost my mic there, Carson. How difficult was
it for you? Christian? You can hang out or you
can whatever you want to do. How difficult was it
your you're on your no, No, I can't hear myself.
You can't hear yourself. I can't hear myself. Probably a
good thing, Carson. How difficult was it for you your
freshman year? Because I think you listen, every student athlete
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wants to get up there and start making plays out
of the gate. Huh. How it had to be a
great opportunity and maturing opportunity for you to sit back
as much as you wanted to be out there, and
you did get some some playing time, but I'm sure
you wanted more. How difficult was it for you to
be patient to trust the process to what I think
we're gonna see this fall? Yeah, you've never sat before.
(12:23):
I mean you've always started.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
And that's what I'm going to get into, right your
whole life, You've never had to say, and you've always
been the guy. And then you come into a place
like your dream school, and you know you're not anymore.
And it's not that you're not going to be it's
just the time wasn't right yet. And I feel like
time is the only thing that you have to be
(12:46):
able to get better is time.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So there's there's seeing great people and good people.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
And what separates great people and good people is great
people when going through trials and tribulations, find a way.
Good people just stay average, right. I never wanted to
be good. I have always wanted to be great, so
but at that time I was okay with being good.
And I know I could have changed a lot of
the outcomes in the playing situation last year if I
was more mature, and I just wasn't yet.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I just didn't have it.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And that was one of the hardest things in the
month of January watching the National Championship game, being like wow.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What clicked? What term? Oh? Where where did.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The maturity come from? Finally when it when the light
bulb went off, like oh wow, okay, I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
After we lost the National Championship.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It was on the flight back and you know, I'm
a very I mean, I'm a very Christian man. I
try to be faithful in what I'm doing, and I'm
talking to God and I'm just like, I need you
to guide me and while I will in my life
and I'm going to follow any plans you got for me.
And he just spoke to me in terms of I
knew my life was going to change that day, and
I knew everything in my life had to change, but
(13:53):
I had to do it. So I started thinking right
right down goals. Okay, so you want to be a
C and B student unodther dame, or you want to
be a A and B student, Like what's gonna help
football career? And I'm thinking to myself, like, I know,
I gotta get a's and b's. So this is my
first semester. Like last semester, I was struggling with Breadt
and then this semester I come out and make honor roll,
you know what I mean. And it was just like
(14:14):
all right, so that's one go down. And then he
was like, you got to outwork everybody around you, and
I got to cut a couple things off in my
personal life. So brother, it was making sacrifices, not spending
too much time on the video games and giving another
thirty minutes to my playbook or maybe calling somebody for
help on questions, even when I don't like doing that.
(14:34):
It was just getting out of my comfort zone and
being comfortable there because in my comfort zone obviously wasn't working.
So the only place that I had to imagine was
outside of it. And once I got there, I started
fully emerging and I felt normal, and it felt normal
being unnormal, which led to success.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Let's talk about the spring game. So obviously you and
I were talking about what Coach Mick said to you
before the spring game for you to kind of take
that next step, that next leap. It was important that
you had a strong spring game. You know, people can
say spring games on me and but for some guys
they do talk about Coach Micking that conversation and ultimately
(15:11):
how well you played Player of the Game for the
Notre Dame Spring game.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I mean he was just he was just great,
and he really just broke it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Down to me like, hey, I can't say everything go here,
but it should be a big spring so you better
have your button, Reddy, And you know I'm looking out
like I guess you know, Coach mc don't play. That's
one I think about Homy. He's always going to be
a all business. Yeah, all business. He keeps a spade
to spade and I and I looked him in his eyes,
and I knew him in business. So it was only
(15:40):
right of me to go out there and execute the
way he wanted me to and be able to give
the fans an opportunity to see what I can do.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And that's that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You bought out, Yeah tried. How'd you feel coming off
that field after that spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I felt I didn't felt deserving.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I feel like I earned it because it took much
more than just a spring game to be in that position.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
To be there.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
It took a lot of lifts, It took a lot
of dedication and practice and details working on your technique
to be able to be in the position to make
the plays because everybody thinks you know when you make
the plays in the game.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It just coming from there, like no, yea so much.
Is it a fair question to ask what some of
your goals are this fall and how things are going
to play out, how things are looking now?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, the number one goal is just start.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Start.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I want to be a Notre Dame starting nickelback this
year for sure. That's the one goal and then number
two goal is hopefully by the end of the season. Uh,
you know, God willing everything going well, try to achieve
one of the All American Awards for dbs and definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A slot corner and outside. So you ever talked to
Carrington Valentine at all? Did you?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Do?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You ever met? No? I'm going to make that happen.
You never met. You and him have so much in common.
Every Body love to talk very uber talented d backs.
I can't believe you guys haven't met. That's on me.
I'm going to make that happen this afternoon. Connect you
and Carrington. For those that don't know, Carrington Valentine at
two thousand and twenty grand and a member of the
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green Bay nineteen might be nineteen and a member of
the No, he is twenty. He's twenty because he played
a whole season when I was here I started, and
so he's a twenty twenty grad and a member of
the Green Bay Packers. Tell me I'm twenty. Thank you
very much. Ah, you keep being you, Carson and let
me do me. Carson and I know Andy, we're kind
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of talking about the season. Are everybody at Moler's it's
crazy the affinity with Notre Dame and Molar. Do you realize,
especially with the passing coach Foust and all the people
that came out of the Notre Dame Molar connection. Do
people talk about Muller up in South Bend.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's surprisingly yes.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
My professions actually, Like when we first got there, I
would tell him, well, hey, I'm from Molor High School
and they'll.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Be like, oh, Molar, that's a powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And then like some of the former alumni, all of
the I don't know why, a lot of the alumni
know Molar.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
A lot of our alumni from Notre Dame, no.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Mollar like a lot a lot. They always say they
were a powerhouse and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Really good players. Uh, Bobby Crable, you know, the list
goes on, but.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's a long list.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Carson walking up there, and I've been up there several times,
been in Lock.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
By the way, don't mention everybody else because you're gonna
forget one and they're gonna let you hear about it too.
That's a fair one.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Everybody, that's right, everybody except Crabes. But when you walked
on campus and you walk down the hall, you hit
the song. I mean do you do you understand I mean,
this is your dream school. So obviously you know the
history of that school and all the great players. You
see them on game days and game weeks. They all
come back. Jerome Bettis's the Joe Montanas, you name it.
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Especially that Natty game. You probably hit everybody down there.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I mean Tom Brady, uh, Tom we Oh my gosh,
we had Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What's the motivational speaker.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Guy name.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Inky?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, but it was we had another Yeah, I know
that and he came.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't know, I don't, Wow, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't think there's nothing wrong with saying that because.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's over. I mean, but he we we have had
Tom Brady before.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's awesome. That's behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But does the history does the history catch up team?
I mean does do you? Did you get a chance
to actually look, you know, through the trophy everything and
just goes wow?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Man, Yeah, I just you have a dad like my
I mean it's impossible.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You know, when he meets these people and when they
come and these you know, amazing alumni, you know, all
he does is he wants to break down the tears.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I mean, these are legends in his eyes. And I
mean their legend of the World War too. Carson. Your dad
is so damn proud of you, and I love just
being around your dad, following and your mom as well,
Big Milwanda. But your dad, big mode Dad dream. It's
the amount of pride he has in you. Ye, playing
an ure Dame is is contagious. It's really cool.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
No, I mean I dedicate my entire you know, football
career to my dad. And you know, my dad growing up,
he didn't have any opportunities that I that he blessed
me with in his life, so it was only right
and fair for me to be able to get the
chance to you know, give it all back to him.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So you know, everything I'd do.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Is for for him, and I hope I'm living out
his dreams through him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And I hope he gets to feel all the success
I feel. What are the chances that your dad, as
we record this right now, is that elizat Kingsman zero
because he's in a flight on the way to What
are the chances that he was there before he caught
his flight? Yeah? And you got anything else for my man?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Urson hops the Irish Open up August thirty first at the.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You seven thirty on NBC. Make sure you guys tap it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Can you make like a molar sign or something? You
don't even thinking it's Michigan. Now, you got to do
some ode de molar when you make your first pick six?
All right, how about the one that you did this? Yeah,
there you go talk about talk about that.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Well, you know, the Selly game is crazy. I can
show you a bunch of clips. Practice we've been working on.
The celly is a lot, so it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
When you did an odor there right, yeah, yeah, but
I maybe a hybrid version of it. Maybe. Oh, I
got so much in the bag. Oh my gosh, you
guys you got to get a pick first? Shit? No,
I mean you can do it on a pass break up? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh PBu, I'm going even crazier.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean I just might. You had a few of
those in the spring games. I did, I did, I
did played. You played pretty well.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I don't really think you guys got to see enough.
I think Miami is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh anywhere did you get n Inderdame tickets from Carson?
But no, I didn't either, But we we know where
to go there.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think that's that's.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't break anybody because we know you well enough.
We go right to your dad because we know your
dad delivers. Yeah, you know, I'll be busy during the
week your big time. No, never that, but are thirty
first seven thirty NBC. Just make sure you guys happen, Carson.
We will be there. We are, absolutely, Carson, extremely proud
(22:28):
of you. Just to see the growth of you and
I and I'm from where you were as a freshman
sophomore to where you are now is unbelievable. From a maturity,
not just a physical standboy, from a maturity. I don't
mean that negatively. I mean everybody. It's growth, it is.
It's unbelievable, the seed, the growth of your head. You've
always been that flamboyant, flashy, great personality, but you can
(22:52):
just tell when you speak you really bought in and
leaned into the process of becoming a man. And I'm
extremely proud of you. You really spread word man, Keep
spreading the word absolutely, Carson. Do you have any questions
for Andy Nagle or myself? Have not?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
We got a big first, Trust God and go big mo.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's it. Carson Hobbs back on campus here at Moller
High school. What number is twenty twenty one. I'm going
to make that happen with you and Carrington to there right,
We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Make I step it on that pig six h stepping
like Primetime.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Would here, Carson, hear it rather the great as well?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh no, there, Dame Well win overall.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
I see head lights made it down the coast's back
on a big little podcast and we got some breaking information.
As we said at the top of the show, Cooper
McCutcheon has committed to North Carolina. The tar heros Andy Nago.
Have you been into the campus in Chapel Hill. I have.
It's it's wait a second, Duke isn't where Duke's Chapel Hill,
(25:06):
right y? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Have you been to the campus?
I have.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I've been to both campuses and and Carolina is unique
in the fact it's kind of it's not as small
as Duke where all the you've been to Duke where
all the athletic park, baseball, basketball, you know, you have football,
and then you have soccer, rugby, lacrosse. All that stuff's
right there. North Carolina's a very similar to The baseball
(25:32):
stadium is phenomenal down there.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't think is gonna play, no, but he's gonna watch.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They have a hillside that all the students go to.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It's pretty cool. Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But football stadium is huge, ginormous h and everything is
in that tar Heel.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Got a chance to catch up with Cooper just a
short time ago before we went on the air to
talk about his commitment to North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, the recruiting process has been crazy for the last
two or so years. I mean, going to UK, my
first offer at that camp was just the beginning, Like it,
It just was straight up hill from there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like it.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
They just started rolling in and talking to schools every
day during the spring. It became super stressful, but you know,
with to help my family and dudes at the school
and coaches as well, like I was really able to
help dwindle down my numbers and kind of helped me
make my decision. So when I met coach Bilchick, we
had pretty much just walked into unc or, North Carolina,
but we just walked in the door and they were like,
so you're gonna get putting a meeting with coach bil Chick.
(26:27):
So I was like, We're all like, oh my gosh,
like we're meeting the greatest of all time within five
minutes to be in at the school, and we all
couldn't believe we were talking to him. And it was
pretty funny because he was talking about stuff and we
were all just like mouth wide open, like we didn't
even know how to react.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It was insane.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
My mom My mom was was famboy in the whole time.
I mean, Mohler's been everything to me. I think if
I had to make decision again, I wouldn't hesitate like
I'd becoming to Moller every time. And I think the
opportunities Moor's given me, whether it's like leadership or just
athletic opportunities and an academic opportunities, but they've all made
me who I am today. And I think specifically those
leadership opportunities have helped me become the man of Molar
(27:09):
that I am today. And I think that's that's probably
the most important aspect of Moler, just meeting the guys
he'll be with for all four years, because when you
come to Muller to be a manimal, you're gonna stick
through it. That's that's how you want to be around.
Those are the guys who want to be around, super
excited to finally commit to you and see. But we
got some work to do this season for football. I mean,
we got to get back in the weight room and
really prepare for next year. We're not gonna let what
(27:29):
happened last year happened again this year. My name is
Screw McCutcheon. I'm a junior at Moller rising senior, and
I'm proud to be a man of Molar in a
future Tarhil.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Pretty coiity you can tell you know It's funny about
Coop is Coop is when you get him one on
there's some guys because he hasn't had a lot of
on air experience. So you get these guys one on
one in the hallway, they're the most congenial, laid back.
You put Coop in that chair, we were joking about it.
You put Coop in the chair a little bit and
you interview him, he locks up a little bit. So
I said, Coop, we're gonna get you on a lot
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more in the football season and get you more comfortable
with it. But what a fabulous young man, Just a
great kid, a great representative of Molar High School and
what it means to be a man of more.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I wish him the best man because he's going to
a circus right now with with coach Belichick and everything
that comes with him and UH and what's going on
down in North Carolina. So it's there's there's distractions, and
he brings that distraction because he's so great. He's got
all these Super Bowl championships and now he's he's getting
back into the college game. Uh, and you you know,
(28:37):
hopefully he can just focus on football and do his
thing and just block out those outside distractions with I
mean you you turn you put on any social media
and type in Bell Belichick and see what you get
and and wish Cooper the best.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He's the best, Coops, the best man. But he's got
another year of football, guys, another for senior year of
football with a lot of those guys that talented twenty
twenty six Class Andy. We got more coming up on
the show, including an interview with Karen Matusick the House System.
We'll be back talk to you, Moore, Molar High School,
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the Big Move Podcast, Andy Nagel and yours truly Big
Mo Barrett as we talk about something that's pretty special
here at Mueller, and we had to actually enlarge the
door so we get the head of Karen Matusack in
the building. Karen, I'm joking. You know, I love you
first and foremost. Welcome to the Big Mo Podcast. I'd say,
(31:40):
welcome back to Molar, but you haven't gone anywhere. You're
still here all the time. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Oh, it's good to be here. I may be retired,
but this will always be my home away from home.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
A man, how long were you here?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Exactly twenty twenty years. But I've been hanging around Mueller
for a long time because you know, Lenny and I
at our first date here when we were juniors.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Lenny Metusik class of seventeen seventy two and a former
Major League Baseball player in fact, who was it George
first Aid Championship team. George Vogel was talking about Lenny
last week on the podcast. I worked together, they worked together.
But we had the Nasty Boys coming to this stag
and we were talking about Rob Dibble and Lou Panella
(32:23):
getting into our fracas down inside the Riverfront Stadium. And
I knew about history because I worked at Channel F
I with Lenny and George, but I didn't know Lenny
was there and George was not there. He said Lenny
was there, so I was kind of hoping you brought
Lenny with you said, Lenny could give his version of
the story. But good stuff. You're here to talk about
the Molar house system. You've been here since Moby Dick
(32:44):
was a Minno of course, brother Ron. Now were you
a part of the contingent that went to Australia. I
was not so talk about the birth of the house system.
We're celebrating twenty years here at MULAR. That's why you're here.
Talk about the birth of the house system and how
you got involved.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Well, a group of students had gone to Australia on
our annual student exchange and they came back to Blaine
Collison and said, hey, we really want to do this
house system. Blaine thought, oh, it's just something students are
talking about in the summer. You know they'll go away.
But they didn't. And I really think that's the reason.
That's the biggest reason why the house system has been
successful here because it was student driven. It wasn't an
(33:23):
administration saying you have to implement the system.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
If I knew that. So they went over there on
another sort of service immersion trip or something. And by
the way, they found this house system. They didn't go
over there just for the house.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Now I didn't know that, and I think it's one
of those where you go over thereback would you like?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I didn't like that kind of stuff. So it kind
of was born from that.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
So Ron, you know, Ron was very you know, instrumental
in the in the house system, and he put out
applications for the original six deans. It was my first
year here and to be honest, I didn't think I
was qualified to be a dean just being here for
a year. Carl Kramer actually came to me and said,
I think you should apply. And I also thought it
(34:06):
was a good marriage because I was the director of
Special Ed and I thought the room will be a
room for leaders to it just won't be a room
where special Ed students hang out. And so I was
one of the original sixteens.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Slade, Yes, I've ever heard of that? Is that a
house here.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
At Now wait, I have to tell you this. So
one of the one of the young men who had
gone to Australia. His name is Mike Morgan. He was
assigned to be one of my house captains that we
didn't do elections, Ron just kind of put people in houses.
And halfway through the year he came to me he said,
(34:47):
I have a confession to make. He said, when I
got assigned to your house, I was really disappointed.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I thought I.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Thought I was doing an okay job. And I said,
why is nat He said, well, they told us when
we were in Australia that if you get stuck with
the female dean, you'll never win anything.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Fight was dropped.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We won the Cup the very first year nice and
three of the next five, so episage. When I was
a dean, we won the Cup four times. Interesting they
have that I'm competitive or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Because they haven't won one since then, So.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Not true, which is really why you know when I
was talking to you about this. So we won when
I was a dean four times. Then Anthony Corter won
two times because he replaced me when I became the director,
Terry Schaeffer won one time, and now the new Karen
(35:46):
Karen Taluchik just one.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now there are some people that listen to the podcast
who may or may not be affiliated with more or
even know what the House systements, or even know what
you're talking about with they won. So maybe articulated a
little bit about the competition that goes on throughout the year,
which really is the crux of what makes that so special,
the house system, the competitive, the brotherhood. Maybe you'd walk
(36:08):
people down that are listening, maybe they have a sixth
sixth grade, or seventh grader or eighth grader, explain to
them what the House system is and how it fosters
that that brotherhood all year long.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Well, first of all, Molar had a very vibrant student council.
Brother Flaherty had that student council for years, and Molar
wasn't in a bad place. I always say the house
system took a good Molar to a great Molar. The
House system divided the nine hundred you know some students
into six individual communities called houses. Each house was overseen
(36:39):
by a dean, further divided into seven mentor groups. And
the whole purpose of the House system is to build community,
develop leadership, foster the brotherhood that we've you know that
you know, we talk about so much here at Molar.
But each of the six houses compete annually for the
Marinus Cup. There's a component of academics, athletics, spirituality and
(37:03):
service for every.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Court, discipline everything. Yeah, so just as Tolist.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Just about everything counts. You know, the house that he has,
a house that he has students on honorable receives points,
a house that he has the fewest number of detentions,
you know, receives receives points. And then there are all
the competitions during the year, the athletic competitions, the can
food drives, the clothing drive, service hours. So it really
(37:31):
you know, while it's definitely competitive, it also helps each
student in every house develop ballistically.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And what's special too is the fact that we're celebrating
twenty years. You have two grand book sons here, Carson
a senior. How special is it as we celebrate twenty
years now and intrinsically involved as you were now, to
have two grandsons who are going through that process here
at Mueller, that's got to be special for you and Lenny.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Right, I'm going to try not to cry here. I've
been crying for a month every senior thing that I
go to with Carson. Both obviously, Carson and Logan are
in Everslage House. But I'm especially proud of Carson because
he's a senior captain in Evslage. So when they when
they gave the Marringus Cup to Evslage at the Senior Awards,
and I watched him hold up that same cup that
(38:21):
I had held up the first time twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I was pretty proud. And Karen, you know, it's one
of our core values obviously, is build the family, and
it starts day one because these freshmen, these freshmen are
not your lowly freshman, like that's true when I went
to school here, you know, And and they have to
(38:46):
rely on the freshmen and sophomores and juniors to help
win that cup with all those points that are involved,
so that that family building starts day one when they
come in and they're assign that house.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Absolutely, I think that the freshmen come in and from
one they feel like they're already a part of something.
They've been they've gone through that house selection night, they've
met their dean, they've met their men or teacher, you know,
over the summer, and I just think it helps them
find a niche here at Molar a lot quicker than
if they didn't have the house system.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I've told alums that that haven't had the houses. I've
never gone into the cafeteria and have seen one person
sitting by themselves at a.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's crazy lunch. And I've been at schools where you think, well,
of course not, but I've been at schools where that
is the case. It really is what the house system
has done at this place. I think sometimes internally, Karen,
you can speak to this that we sometimes take it
for granted, how special it is and what it's done.
You have people across the country that have reached out
(39:45):
to you, appear at the house system, talk about that, Well.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
We've done a lot of the schools that have a
house system now are a result of having come to
Molar to look at Molar. Probably I started to say Seattle,
Ode is the farthest school, but we also traveled to
the Holy Land Wow and presented the house system to
the Latin Patriarch schools that you know there. So there
are there are quite a few schools now that have
(40:08):
the house system. There's an annual House System Institute held
every summer. This year is going to be in Nashville,
and I think we're sending for four of our faculty
members there.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
If you're a parent, a prospective parent out there and
you have a like parts said a sixth or seventh grader,
and maybe they're not you know, the big stud athlete,
or you know, maybe they're a quiet kid or an
introverted kid and they just really don't know what they're
and it's hard to ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen year
old kid to figure out what they want to do.
(40:40):
This is a great welcoming community and I think this
house system is a game changer.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, I also say this. You know, for the twenty
years when I was here and I was the director
of special Education, a lot of the students who we
worked with, you know down the CLC come in and
they're somewhat socially awkward, they don't have a wide circle
of friends, they may not be the most athletic. That's
(41:05):
where they find their home in the mentor group and
in the house. In their house, it's you could you
can talk to parents of students who have graduated and
they'll tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The competitive nature of it is fun for me to
watch like these guys.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
And it's not just athletics, No, that's only one part
of it.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, it's pretty special, Karen, thanks to you and everything
you've done to lead this thing with brother Ron of course,
and because it is if you can maybe address this
how labor intensive it is. You just don't wave a
magic wand and this House system just operates. There's a
lot of work, a ton of work. The deans talk
about that briefly.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Well, the first of all, the very first year of
the House system, we were really flying by the seat
of our pants. I remember Bruce Nelson was one of
the original deans and we'd be passing in the hallway saying, hey,
we have to be someplace at four o'clock tonight, don't
forget tomorrow. We were having, you know, this big lunch.
And well, all the deans now have a common planning period,
which is golden. We have the deans, the infamous Deans.
(42:09):
Then where all the magic happens, you.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Say, the commons. So they're all together being able to
bounce stuff off each other, and it's like ground zero.
It is.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's every a too. It's planning, it's reflecting on, you know,
how events went and how they can do them better.
And the sixteens, it's a it's a very close knit
group of a group of adults. They do all the
event you know, do all the events you know together.
But I'd be lying if I said it's not a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
For sure. It is. Kudos to all the deans. And
it's interesting you have deans that will hop every once
in a while too. Right, So there's Clayton Graham, he
was the pillar guy and he hops and now now
you know it's Jonathan Bennett now and.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
He didn't leave the house. He just left the dean.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
No, he's actually in another different house. So there's a
little bit of like it's just fascinating, it's really.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Cool, and we actually try to do that if if
a dean is stepping down, we oftentimes will put him
or her in a different house. Just says it's a
new dean.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Cheter all the kids ribbing him. It's fun. It's fun. Karen,
thank you, thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
There's what's Lenny doing right now? See list, He's probably
trying to find this on.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
The radio, you know what he should be and he
should be going to Joe Knucks all way and talk
a little hitting with these red legs.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But don't get me started on.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
You know, Lenny is going to pick me up at
eleven thirty and take me to lunch.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's what Lenny's taking Why castles, come on? We might
do you know something might do?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wendy so great, No.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Karen, congratulations, Embrace, Embrace, embrace. You've earned where you are. Now,
You've earned the experience of watching your grand your grandsons
come here and in the next couple of weeks are
going to be pretty emotional for you. But congratulations to family.
In the small world. Jeff Todd, her son in law,
and I grew up across the street from each other.
Oh no, Jeff, you should jump on my trampoline. We
(44:07):
should shove him in the locker. Yeah, he can't respond, so.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I can say, Jeff, by the way, it is the
Saint Xcreant, and I think he really thought that Carson
was going to go.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
To Saint X. How we looking, Marty. He broke that.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Halfway through Carson's freshman year. He said to Michelle, my daughter,
he made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
That's fantastic. That all's well, that ends well. That's Karen Metusick.
She is the goat. You know what goat stands for? Karen,
I do greatest of all time, one of the originators
of the House episode. She couldn't get into Pillar House,
so she became an adversaete.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Don't forget it's the it's the rule that Karen's you know,
Karen matusicrthing.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
To do with that, Karen, she's another Karen. That's unbelievable.
That's Karen mctusick the Goats on the Big Boat Podcast.
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bad podcast. Pulling those three in and you know, you
gotta be excited. I love when these kids come in
as freshmen. You just see that mature. We talk about
it all the time, the maturity process, how they grow.
Cooper McCutcheon is a great example of that, a young
man who came from Lebanon and just kind of bought
into the system, bought into the process, and you know,
(46:28):
he could have picked any number of top elite football
schools and chose North Carolina. His buddy Sam's going to
West Virginia. Gotta believe those two at some point will
meet in their college football career. But it's so gratifying
to see these guys make that transition through four years
and just love catching up with those guys.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
You work hard, man, and good things.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Are gonna happen. Amen, you know Amen, Prady the.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Good Lord above and and live light right, live life right,
and treat people right. And I'm telling you, if it
pays off, it really does.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Fun seeing these guys get these There's some breaking news
that I am not permitted to release yet with a
big name here at Molar getting an offer from a
big school, and so that's breaking that may by the
time this is released, it may already be out. But
it's fun. It's fun following on the success of these
guys in the classroom out of the classroom leadership. We
(47:21):
were with Danelle Shephard yesterday and you talk about it. It
was really the first time you had to kind of
sit down with Danell. You know, the passion and energy
he has and the pride he has at Moller. It's contagious.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, And if you're out there listening, man, and you haven't,
we say it all the time, come on back, dip
your toe in the water. Barrett has always said, this
bourbon and cigar event that we have on Friday, June
sixth is the perfect.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Opportunity, great entry point to.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Come back, dip your toe in the water. It's a
very relaxed atmosphere, very welcoming atmosphere, and you're gonna meet
some old friends and you're gonna meet some new friends,
and you're gonna be like, Wow, where.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Have I been? What are yeah doing? It's it's a
safe place because you can you can come to this
event if you choose to hide in the corner and
not talk to anybody. You can do that and you
won't stick out like a sore thumb. You could just
come and kind of take a look at the campus.
But good chance you will see somebody you know reconnect
(48:20):
and once that toe's in the water, you ain't coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You will fall back in love with a place that
never left your life.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's unbelievable. And you know, one of my favorite things,
and you know this about me, but is when people
do come back, and they might come back because a
friend invited them and they didn't want to come back,
but they came and then they start connecting dots. You know,
I'm doing this because of this and wow, I never
thought about this and that and what this person meant
(48:47):
to me. And when you see that magic happen with
an alum, it's pretty freaking special.
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Yeah, you know, talk about your Denver chapter. There's Rhoda
is signed up for signing.
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Those guys coming from Denver to.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
From Denver for bourbon and cigar.
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You could come from coming to I think.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I'm coming back.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Renion. Yeah, if they can come from Denver, you can
come from Deer Park or Silverton or we're reading, or
wherever you are, spread the word and get here. June six,
you can go to molar dot org at the very top,
and he's done a phenomenal job with Louise and Betsy,
primarily Betsy and Jared to create a kind of a
one stop shop Molar dot org. At the top, you'll
(49:32):
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We got a lot of opportunities to engage big.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Andy. Do you have any questions for me? Thanks, We're
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How many times, Andy does it take to record the
intro to the Big Mo Podcast? This is like take
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number ten, one, one, just one. It's another rendition of
the b MP and Andy, We're gonna get right to
it because we have a we've got a longer show.
We got some breaking news that happened today this morning.
Cooper McCutcheon has committed to play football and continue his
academic education at North Carolina. And when you say North Carolina,
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you can't leave out the name Bill Belichick. So we're
gonna talk to Coop about his big decision circus. Yeah,
we're gonna talk to Coop about his big decision committing
to North Carolina and the goat Bill Belichick. We got
Karen mctousic coming on the show talking about the twentieth
anniversary of the House System, and of course we'll have
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we have Carson Hobbs. He was in here last week
and if you haven't heard that. We will include our
special interview with who a lot of people may think
we'll compete for a starting job in South Bend and
that being Carson Hobb Hobbs as well. You are a
notre dame guy, so I know you're going to enjoy
that as well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We did, and we did that last week, like you
talked about. We sent snippets of that out and I'm
telling you, Barrett, I know we both talked about it
last year. We both had our reservations.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Boy is this guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're really gonna make it at South Bend and he's
killing it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He was a totally different person when we met with
him last week than the Carson Hobbs that graduated twelve
months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He's always he's always been. He was born to be
on radio, born to be on camera. He's really, really really.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
But he told you about it twelve months ago. He's
very humble.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Uh it was.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It was awesome. It was great to see and I
can't I can't wait to see him on the football
field this year and wish him all the best.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Man. Gotta be fun. We got Carson Hobbs, Cooper McCutcheon
and Karen Mettusick on the b MP. We'll be back
and we'll get it off started on the best coverage
of Molar High School. It's w m OE the Molar
Broadcasting Network and the Big Mo Podcast. And there's side
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of the.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Comyn Charger.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's a special rendition to the Big Mo Podcast. Dandy
Nagel and yours truly Big Mo Barrett with a guy
that has been on the podcast a few times. In fact,
I will take credit personally for his ability to speak
so eloquently on the air, whether it's National TV, whether
it's South Carson Hobbs, the Pride of the Man and
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the Pride of South Bend in Notre Dame. I take
one credit for your ability to sound really good. Do
you disagree with that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, that's the wildest statement I've heard this year.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is it accurate? Though? Well? Thank you. Next question, Carson Man,
you walked out of your once again. You should see
what he's rolling in a BMW ben this Nil street
and our menimole a pretty darn well. But listen, you
jumped out of that thing and you look like a
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dude when you were here. I remember freshman year, and
I've told you this before. If you turned sideways in class,
the teacher would count you absent. You look like am
I wrong? I was about one sixty five so you're wet. Yeah,
but now you look like a guy that plays football
for Notre name. The weight room has treated you well
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before we get dive into it. Nandy Nagle is a homer,
big time Notre Dame guy, so he's probably gonna have
a load of questions for you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
How you doing soon? Beyond blessed on this.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I wake up every day and thank God for the
opportunity to be able to, you know, be able to
come home, visit my school and just play from my
dream school.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And it's just life's great. It can't get much better.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What was it like when you walk down at the
sugar I was getting It was a Sugar Bowl, no origiball.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, with the Natty game.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
In the National Championship Game. And I think we talked
to you a little bit about before what it was
going to be like, right the week before you you
were kind enough.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
To die down in New Orleans shooting and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, but we just talked about when we were
in courtyard outside just a year ago you were graduating
from Molar High School and now and what has transpired
in your life? Yeah? From a year ago graduating from Molar,
I remember you. I remember the Santas Center. You were
pearly whites man ear to ear, You're about to chase
a dream. And since then, you've got a year under
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your belt academically, you've competed at the highest stage in
college football. And here you are back where you grew
up here at Molar High School. What's it all been
like for you? The process?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Where do you ask?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I would compare it to exactly like how it wasn't
Molar for me, But I just think it tells a
story about my faith and just how you got to
trust God. So when I came into Molar my freshman year,
I can recall having the school record for leader of detentions,
being undisciplined, and just not being able to fully understand
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my purpose. And I think when I first got to
Notre Dame, I had a relapse of not understanding my
purpose because you go into a place of Okay, I'm
a little fish and a big pond, rather than coming
from a big fish in a little pond. When I
was a senior in high school, at Moler, So in
my first couple of months, becoming a true master of
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my talents was the hardest thing to do because I
would just say, when you have a hundred other guys
around you, and they all have your talents and they're
all good, what makes you different?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And it took me to.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Get my competitive self and my edge and my confidence
back like I have now to be able to get
to that point. But when I first got there as
a freshman, I just don't think I was mature enough
to be able to handle what Notre Dame was ready
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I have a great question before Andy gets into
I'm not going to get what would Carson Hobbs today
tell Carson Hobbs who was a senior And I know
that Carson Hobbs it was a senior. Yeah, what would
the Carson Hobbs today tell the Carson Hobbs who was
a senior who didn't know why those rules existed, who
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didn't always follow the line. What would you say to
that guy today?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, every detail matters, like your routine, your habits, and
every single thing you do in your life becomes.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Consistency, and consistency.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Is the only way to achieve greatness I believe. So
that's what we speak about in our weight room. And
it's like an everyday thing, Like I know my routine.
I know when I wake up, the first thing I'm
gonna do is pray. I'm gonna go to workouts, I'm
gonna go to class, I'm gonna eat at a certain
time at a certain period in between a period, and
I'm gonna go to sleep between a certain window. And
I do the same thing every single day and that
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builds consistency.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I listen to the exact same Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
When you and when you're doing, when you find your
routine and it starts working for you, that's where the
confidence comes from.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And then you feel unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
But you have a leader and coach Freeman coach Mike
yeh that I mean talk about faith filled guys. Yeah,
and those routines. It has to make it easy to
look to those two guys and say, man with.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
The role models right right, So, I mean you go
to a school where you want to be disciplined, you
want to be coach for the best ability and play
for the highest level. Well, when we talk in terms
of having a faith based structure and coming from a
high school like Moler that produces you know, really edequate
and good guys. Why not, you know, go from my
dream school. Why not go to Notre Dame. It's the
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perfect match. And coming from a Catholic school and then
carrying the same traditions and only building my faith in
a smaller group of people compared to other colleges, like
you know, Notre Dame smaller, so you know, you compare us.
There's not much to do, so a lot of times
you find yourself alone, and in that window is why
you see the success rate they have because so much
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time spent alone is equivalent to where they're dedicating their
studies to and where they're dedicating their faith to.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And that's I feel like, why God put me there.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I couldn't go to a giant school and not have
a coach making coach free in my life because it
wouldn't have been good for me.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
That just wasn't my path.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It had to be this option, I feel like, because
it's the only way to keep me disciplined and it's
making me who I am.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And like you said, those guys are in your like
I'm not gonna say and I'm probably gonna speak out
of school. But it's somebody like a Nick Saban and
and those bigger coaches, you know, they have all the
assistants and you really don't have much. You may not
have much interaction with a big but but coach Freeman
and coach I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They're right there with you.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean every day, all day, very accessible with everything
you need.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And they can be good or bad, you know. Correct.
I just got to carp coach big yesterday. My staff.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
He didn't like so it me and a couple of
guys did. So it was just like he is not
shy to correct you. But you always know the difference
between a person when they're trying to correct you for
something that they think is ticky, tacky or truly coming.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
From genuine love, right, I know? And not there name
has been nothing.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
But love and it's just continued to grow and help
build and elevate me.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, and he get that door. We have some guys
here that want to see Carson Hobbs and say hello
to Carson. But Carson, what was the my question? Next
question for you is that transition? Uh see, you gotta
you gotta give a little bit of love. That's one
of my favorite things here is seeing, is seeing Carson
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interact with some of his former teammates, and that this
guy is one of the most quietest guys here in
the entire Well, let's put a headset on him, but
he was hooping. Put a headset on here, but he was.
Carson introduced everyone, I'm hooking this up. Introduce everybody to
who we have in the studio.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Guys have junior Christian Harris, football, Christian Harris. I'm gonna
foller de tackle A promise you he gonna get a
sack every time.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Christian, what's your memory favorite memory of Carson? Carson, you
gotta have. You gotta have a couple of them, right,
I don't even know. It's a lot of memories. I
probably have to say, you guys a little argument that fact.
He's going back and forth, you know, but because you know,
Carson likes to talk, really.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Let it talk.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm a trash talker too.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
But you know, we got it's a little accident, you know,
but at the end of the day, you know, you
got to hold your team is accountable.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know. Could we see him, could we see him
at Notre Dame. He'd be a great pick up. Are
you working your Mojo, Christian.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The best recruiters they have any college, any team is
the current players.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Facts, absolutely, and our coaches will be in here probably
definitely this month.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Actually, Yeah, lost my mic there, Carson. How difficult was
it for you? Christian? You can hang out or you
can whatever you want to do. How difficult was it
your you're on your no, No, I can't hear myself.
You can't hear yourself. I can't hear myself. Probably a
good thing, Carson. How difficult was it for you your
freshman year? Because I think you listen, every student athlete
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wants to get up there and start making plays out
of the gate. Huh. How it had to be a
great opportunity and maturing opportunity for you to sit back
as much as you wanted to be out there, and
you did get some some playing time, but I'm sure
you wanted more. How difficult was it for you to
be patient to trust the process to what I think
we're gonna see this fall? Yeah, you've never sat before.
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I mean you've always started.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
And that's what I'm going to get into, right your
whole life, You've never had to say, and you've always
been the guy. And then you come into a place
like your dream school, and you know you're not anymore.
And it's not that you're not going to be it's
just the time wasn't right yet. And I feel like
time is the only thing that you have to be
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able to get better is time.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So there's there's seeing great people and good people.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
And what separates great people and good people is great
people when going through trials and tribulations, find a way.
Good people just stay average, right. I never wanted to
be good. I have always wanted to be great, so
but at that time I was okay with being good.
And I know I could have changed a lot of
the outcomes in the playing situation last year if I
was more mature, and I just wasn't yet.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I just didn't have it.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And that was one of the hardest things in the
month of January watching the National Championship game, being like wow.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What clicked? What term? Oh? Where where did.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The maturity come from? Finally when it when the light
bulb went off, like oh wow, okay, I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
After we lost the National Championship.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It was on the flight back and you know, I'm
a very I mean, I'm a very Christian man. I
try to be faithful in what I'm doing, and I'm
talking to God and I'm just like, I need you
to guide me and while I will in my life
and I'm going to follow any plans you got for me.
And he just spoke to me in terms of I
knew my life was going to change that day, and
I knew everything in my life had to change, but
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I had to do it. So I started thinking right
right down goals. Okay, so you want to be a
C and B student unodther dame, or you want to
be a A and B student, Like what's gonna help
football career? And I'm thinking to myself, like, I know,
I gotta get a's and b's. So this is my
first semester. Like last semester, I was struggling with Breadt
and then this semester I come out and make honor roll,
you know what I mean. And it was just like
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all right, so that's one go down. And then he
was like, you got to outwork everybody around you, and
I got to cut a couple things off in my
personal life. So brother, it was making sacrifices, not spending
too much time on the video games and giving another
thirty minutes to my playbook or maybe calling somebody for
help on questions, even when I don't like doing that.
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It was just getting out of my comfort zone and
being comfortable there because in my comfort zone obviously wasn't working.
So the only place that I had to imagine was
outside of it. And once I got there, I started
fully emerging and I felt normal, and it felt normal
being unnormal, which led to success.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Let's talk about the spring game. So obviously you and
I were talking about what Coach Mick said to you
before the spring game for you to kind of take
that next step, that next leap. It was important that
you had a strong spring game. You know, people can
say spring games on me and but for some guys
they do talk about Coach Micking that conversation and ultimately
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how well you played Player of the Game for the
Notre Dame Spring game.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I mean he was just he was just great,
and he really just broke it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Down to me like, hey, I can't say everything go here,
but it should be a big spring so you better
have your button, Reddy, And you know I'm looking out
like I guess you know, Coach mc don't play. That's
one I think about Homy. He's always going to be
a all business. Yeah, all business. He keeps a spade
to spade and I and I looked him in his eyes,
and I knew him in business. So it was only
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right of me to go out there and execute the
way he wanted me to and be able to give
the fans an opportunity to see what I can do.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And that's that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You bought out, Yeah tried. How'd you feel coming off
that field after that spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I felt I didn't felt deserving.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I feel like I earned it because it took much
more than just a spring game to be in that position.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
To be there.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
It took a lot of lifts, It took a lot
of dedication and practice and details working on your technique
to be able to be in the position to make
the plays because everybody thinks you know when you make
the plays in the game.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It just coming from there, like no, yea so much.
Is it a fair question to ask what some of
your goals are this fall and how things are going
to play out, how things are looking now?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, the number one goal is just start.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Start.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I want to be a Notre Dame starting nickelback this
year for sure. That's the one goal and then number
two goal is hopefully by the end of the season. Uh,
you know, God willing everything going well, try to achieve
one of the All American Awards for dbs and definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A slot corner and outside. So you ever talked to
Carrington Valentine at all? Did you?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Do?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You ever met? No? I'm going to make that happen.
You never met. You and him have so much in common.
Every Body love to talk very uber talented d backs.
I can't believe you guys haven't met. That's on me.
I'm going to make that happen this afternoon. Connect you
and Carrington. For those that don't know, Carrington Valentine at
two thousand and twenty grand and a member of the
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green Bay nineteen might be nineteen and a member of
the No, he is twenty. He's twenty because he played
a whole season when I was here I started, and
so he's a twenty twenty grad and a member of
the Green Bay Packers. Tell me I'm twenty. Thank you
very much. Ah, you keep being you, Carson and let
me do me. Carson and I know Andy, we're kind
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of talking about the season. Are everybody at Moler's it's
crazy the affinity with Notre Dame and Molar. Do you realize,
especially with the passing coach Foust and all the people
that came out of the Notre Dame Molar connection. Do
people talk about Muller up in South Bend.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's surprisingly yes.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
My professions actually, Like when we first got there, I
would tell him, well, hey, I'm from Molor High School
and they'll.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Be like, oh, Molar, that's a powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And then like some of the former alumni, all of
the I don't know why, a lot of the alumni
know Molar.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
A lot of our alumni from Notre Dame, no.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Mollar like a lot a lot. They always say they
were a powerhouse and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Really good players. Uh, Bobby Crable, you know, the list
goes on, but.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's a long list.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Carson walking up there, and I've been up there several times,
been in Lock.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
By the way, don't mention everybody else because you're gonna
forget one and they're gonna let you hear about it too.
That's a fair one.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Everybody, that's right, everybody except Crabes. But when you walked
on campus and you walk down the hall, you hit
the song. I mean do you do you understand I mean,
this is your dream school. So obviously you know the
history of that school and all the great players. You
see them on game days and game weeks. They all
come back. Jerome Bettis's the Joe Montanas, you name it.
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Especially that Natty game. You probably hit everybody down there.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I mean Tom Brady, uh, Tom we Oh my gosh,
we had Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What's the motivational speaker.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Guy name.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Inky?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, but it was we had another Yeah, I know
that and he came.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't know, I don't, Wow, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I don't think there's nothing wrong with saying that because.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's over. I mean, but he we we have had
Tom Brady before.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's awesome. That's behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But does the history does the history catch up team?
I mean does do you? Did you get a chance
to actually look, you know, through the trophy everything and
just goes wow?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Man, Yeah, I just you have a dad like my
I mean it's impossible.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You know, when he meets these people and when they
come and these you know, amazing alumni, you know, all
he does is he wants to break down the tears.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I mean, these are legends in his eyes. And I
mean their legend of the World War too. Carson. Your dad
is so damn proud of you, and I love just
being around your dad, following and your mom as well,
Big Milwanda. But your dad, big mode Dad dream. It's
the amount of pride he has in you. Ye, playing
an ure Dame is is contagious. It's really cool.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
No, I mean I dedicate my entire you know, football
career to my dad. And you know, my dad growing up,
he didn't have any opportunities that I that he blessed
me with in his life, so it was only right
and fair for me to be able to get the
chance to you know, give it all back to him.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So you know, everything I'd do.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Is for for him, and I hope I'm living out
his dreams through him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And I hope he gets to feel all the success
I feel. What are the chances that your dad, as
we record this right now, is that elizat Kingsman zero
because he's in a flight on the way to What
are the chances that he was there before he caught
his flight? Yeah? And you got anything else for my man?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Urson hops the Irish Open up August thirty first at the.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You seven thirty on NBC. Make sure you guys tap it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Can you make like a molar sign or something? You
don't even thinking it's Michigan. Now, you got to do
some ode de molar when you make your first pick six?
All right, how about the one that you did this? Yeah,
there you go talk about talk about that.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Well, you know, the Selly game is crazy. I can
show you a bunch of clips. Practice we've been working on.
The celly is a lot, so it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
When you did an odor there right, yeah, yeah, but
I maybe a hybrid version of it. Maybe. Oh, I
got so much in the bag. Oh my gosh, you
guys you got to get a pick first? Shit? No,
I mean you can do it on a pass break up? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh PBu, I'm going even crazier.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean I just might. You had a few of
those in the spring games. I did, I did, I
did played. You played pretty well.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I don't really think you guys got to see enough.
I think Miami is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh anywhere did you get n Inderdame tickets from Carson?
But no, I didn't either, But we we know where
to go there.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think that's that's.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't break anybody because we know you well enough.
We go right to your dad because we know your
dad delivers. Yeah, you know, I'll be busy during the
week your big time. No, never that, but are thirty
first seven thirty NBC. Just make sure you guys happen, Carson.
We will be there. We are, absolutely, Carson, extremely proud
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of you. Just to see the growth of you and
I and I'm from where you were as a freshman
sophomore to where you are now is unbelievable. From a maturity,
not just a physical standboy, from a maturity. I don't
mean that negatively. I mean everybody. It's growth, it is.
It's unbelievable, the seed, the growth of your head. You've
always been that flamboyant, flashy, great personality, but you can
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just tell when you speak you really bought in and
leaned into the process of becoming a man. And I'm
extremely proud of you. You really spread word man, Keep
spreading the word absolutely, Carson. Do you have any questions
for Andy Nagle or myself? Have not?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
We got a big first, Trust God and go big mo.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's it. Carson Hobbs back on campus here at Moller
High school. What number is twenty twenty one. I'm going
to make that happen with you and Carrington to there right,
We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Make I step it on that pig six h stepping
like Primetime.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Would here, Carson, hear it rather the great as well?
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
I see head lights made it down the coast's back
on a big little podcast and we got some breaking information.
As we said at the top of the show, Cooper
McCutcheon has committed to North Carolina. The tar heros Andy Nago.
Have you been into the campus in Chapel Hill. I have.
It's it's wait a second, Duke isn't where Duke's Chapel Hill,
(25:06):
right y? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Have you been to the campus?
I have.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I've been to both campuses and and Carolina is unique
in the fact it's kind of it's not as small
as Duke where all the you've been to Duke where
all the athletic park, baseball, basketball, you know, you have football,
and then you have soccer, rugby, lacrosse. All that stuff's
right there. North Carolina's a very similar to The baseball
(25:32):
stadium is phenomenal down there.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't think is gonna play, no, but he's gonna watch.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They have a hillside that all the students go to.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It's pretty cool. Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But football stadium is huge, ginormous h and everything is
in that tar Heel.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Got a chance to catch up with Cooper just a
short time ago before we went on the air to
talk about his commitment to North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, the recruiting process has been crazy for the last
two or so years. I mean, going to UK, my
first offer at that camp was just the beginning, Like it,
It just was straight up hill from there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like it.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
They just started rolling in and talking to schools every
day during the spring. It became super stressful, but you know,
with to help my family and dudes at the school
and coaches as well, like I was really able to
help dwindle down my numbers and kind of helped me
make my decision. So when I met coach Bilchick, we
had pretty much just walked into unc or, North Carolina,
but we just walked in the door and they were like,
so you're gonna get putting a meeting with coach bil Chick.
(26:27):
So I was like, We're all like, oh my gosh,
like we're meeting the greatest of all time within five
minutes to be in at the school, and we all
couldn't believe we were talking to him. And it was
pretty funny because he was talking about stuff and we
were all just like mouth wide open, like we didn't
even know how to react.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It was insane.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
My mom My mom was was famboy in the whole time.
I mean, Mohler's been everything to me. I think if
I had to make decision again, I wouldn't hesitate like
I'd becoming to Moller every time. And I think the
opportunities Moor's given me, whether it's like leadership or just
athletic opportunities and an academic opportunities, but they've all made
me who I am today. And I think specifically those
leadership opportunities have helped me become the man of Molar
(27:09):
that I am today. And I think that's that's probably
the most important aspect of Moler, just meeting the guys
he'll be with for all four years, because when you
come to Muller to be a manimal, you're gonna stick
through it. That's that's how you want to be around.
Those are the guys who want to be around, super
excited to finally commit to you and see. But we
got some work to do this season for football. I mean,
we got to get back in the weight room and
really prepare for next year. We're not gonna let what
(27:29):
happened last year happened again this year. My name is
Screw McCutcheon. I'm a junior at Moller rising senior, and
I'm proud to be a man of Molar in a
future Tarhil.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Pretty coiity you can tell you know It's funny about
Coop is Coop is when you get him one on
there's some guys because he hasn't had a lot of
on air experience. So you get these guys one on
one in the hallway, they're the most congenial, laid back.
You put Coop in that chair, we were joking about it.
You put Coop in the chair a little bit and
you interview him, he locks up a little bit. So
I said, Coop, we're gonna get you on a lot
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more in the football season and get you more comfortable
with it. But what a fabulous young man, Just a
great kid, a great representative of Molar High School and
what it means to be a man of more.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I wish him the best man because he's going to
a circus right now with with coach Belichick and everything
that comes with him and UH and what's going on
down in North Carolina. So it's there's there's distractions, and
he brings that distraction because he's so great. He's got
all these Super Bowl championships and now he's he's getting
back into the college game. Uh, and you you know,
(28:37):
hopefully he can just focus on football and do his
thing and just block out those outside distractions with I
mean you you turn you put on any social media
and type in Bell Belichick and see what you get
and and wish Cooper the best.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He's the best, Coops, the best man. But he's got
another year of football, guys, another for senior year of
football with a lot of those guys that talented twenty
twenty six Class Andy. We got more coming up on
the show, including an interview with Karen Matusick the House System.
We'll be back talk to you, Moore, Molar High School,
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the Big Move Podcast, Andy Nagel and yours truly Big
Mo Barrett as we talk about something that's pretty special
here at Mueller, and we had to actually enlarge the
door so we get the head of Karen Matusack in
the building. Karen, I'm joking. You know, I love you
first and foremost. Welcome to the Big Mo Podcast. I'd say,
(31:40):
welcome back to Molar, but you haven't gone anywhere. You're
still here all the time. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Oh, it's good to be here. I may be retired,
but this will always be my home away from home.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
A man, how long were you here?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Exactly twenty twenty years. But I've been hanging around Mueller
for a long time because you know, Lenny and I
at our first date here when we were juniors.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Lenny Metusik class of seventeen seventy two and a former
Major League Baseball player in fact, who was it George
first Aid Championship team. George Vogel was talking about Lenny
last week on the podcast. I worked together, they worked together.
But we had the Nasty Boys coming to this stag
and we were talking about Rob Dibble and Lou Panella
(32:23):
getting into our fracas down inside the Riverfront Stadium. And
I knew about history because I worked at Channel F
I with Lenny and George, but I didn't know Lenny
was there and George was not there. He said Lenny
was there, so I was kind of hoping you brought
Lenny with you said, Lenny could give his version of
the story. But good stuff. You're here to talk about
the Molar house system. You've been here since Moby Dick
(32:44):
was a Minno of course, brother Ron. Now were you
a part of the contingent that went to Australia. I
was not so talk about the birth of the house system.
We're celebrating twenty years here at MULAR. That's why you're here.
Talk about the birth of the house system and how
you got involved.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Well, a group of students had gone to Australia on
our annual student exchange and they came back to Blaine
Collison and said, hey, we really want to do this
house system. Blaine thought, oh, it's just something students are
talking about in the summer. You know they'll go away.
But they didn't. And I really think that's the reason.
That's the biggest reason why the house system has been
successful here because it was student driven. It wasn't an
(33:23):
administration saying you have to implement the system.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
If I knew that. So they went over there on
another sort of service immersion trip or something. And by
the way, they found this house system. They didn't go
over there just for the house.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Now I didn't know that, and I think it's one
of those where you go over thereback would you like?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I didn't like that kind of stuff. So it kind
of was born from that.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
So Ron, you know, Ron was very you know, instrumental
in the in the house system, and he put out
applications for the original six deans. It was my first
year here and to be honest, I didn't think I
was qualified to be a dean just being here for
a year. Carl Kramer actually came to me and said,
I think you should apply. And I also thought it
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was a good marriage because I was the director of
Special Ed and I thought the room will be a
room for leaders to it just won't be a room
where special Ed students hang out. And so I was
one of the original sixteens.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Slade, Yes, I've ever heard of that? Is that a
house here.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
At Now wait, I have to tell you this. So
one of the one of the young men who had
gone to Australia. His name is Mike Morgan. He was
assigned to be one of my house captains that we
didn't do elections, Ron just kind of put people in houses.
And halfway through the year he came to me he said,
(34:47):
I have a confession to make. He said, when I
got assigned to your house, I was really disappointed.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I thought I.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Thought I was doing an okay job. And I said,
why is nat He said, well, they told us when
we were in Australia that if you get stuck with
the female dean, you'll never win anything.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Fight was dropped.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We won the Cup the very first year nice and
three of the next five, so episage. When I was
a dean, we won the Cup four times. Interesting they
have that I'm competitive or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Because they haven't won one since then, So.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Not true, which is really why you know when I
was talking to you about this. So we won when
I was a dean four times. Then Anthony Corter won
two times because he replaced me when I became the director,
Terry Schaeffer won one time, and now the new Karen
(35:46):
Karen Taluchik just one.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now there are some people that listen to the podcast
who may or may not be affiliated with more or
even know what the House systements, or even know what
you're talking about with they won. So maybe articulated a
little bit about the competition that goes on throughout the year,
which really is the crux of what makes that so special,
the house system, the competitive, the brotherhood. Maybe you'd walk
(36:08):
people down that are listening, maybe they have a sixth
sixth grade, or seventh grader or eighth grader, explain to
them what the House system is and how it fosters
that that brotherhood all year long.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Well, first of all, Molar had a very vibrant student council.
Brother Flaherty had that student council for years, and Molar
wasn't in a bad place. I always say the house
system took a good Molar to a great Molar. The
House system divided the nine hundred you know some students
into six individual communities called houses. Each house was overseen
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by a dean, further divided into seven mentor groups. And
the whole purpose of the House system is to build community,
develop leadership, foster the brotherhood that we've you know that
you know, we talk about so much here at Molar.
But each of the six houses compete annually for the
Marinus Cup. There's a component of academics, athletics, spirituality and
(37:03):
service for every.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Court, discipline everything. Yeah, so just as Tolist.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Just about everything counts. You know, the house that he has,
a house that he has students on honorable receives points,
a house that he has the fewest number of detentions,
you know, receives receives points. And then there are all
the competitions during the year, the athletic competitions, the can
food drives, the clothing drive, service hours. So it really
(37:31):
you know, while it's definitely competitive, it also helps each
student in every house develop ballistically.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And what's special too is the fact that we're celebrating
twenty years. You have two grand book sons here, Carson
a senior. How special is it as we celebrate twenty
years now and intrinsically involved as you were now, to
have two grandsons who are going through that process here
at Mueller, that's got to be special for you and Lenny.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Right, I'm going to try not to cry here. I've
been crying for a month every senior thing that I
go to with Carson. Both obviously, Carson and Logan are
in Everslage House. But I'm especially proud of Carson because
he's a senior captain in Evslage. So when they when
they gave the Marringus Cup to Evslage at the Senior Awards,
and I watched him hold up that same cup that
(38:21):
I had held up the first time twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I was pretty proud. And Karen, you know, it's one
of our core values obviously, is build the family, and
it starts day one because these freshmen, these freshmen are
not your lowly freshman, like that's true when I went
to school here, you know, And and they have to
(38:46):
rely on the freshmen and sophomores and juniors to help
win that cup with all those points that are involved,
so that that family building starts day one when they
come in and they're assign that house.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Absolutely, I think that the freshmen come in and from
one they feel like they're already a part of something.
They've been they've gone through that house selection night, they've
met their dean, they've met their men or teacher, you know,
over the summer, and I just think it helps them
find a niche here at Molar a lot quicker than
if they didn't have the house system.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I've told alums that that haven't had the houses. I've
never gone into the cafeteria and have seen one person
sitting by themselves at a.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's crazy lunch. And I've been at schools where you think, well,
of course not, but I've been at schools where that
is the case. It really is what the house system
has done at this place. I think sometimes internally, Karen,
you can speak to this that we sometimes take it
for granted, how special it is and what it's done.
You have people across the country that have reached out
(39:45):
to you, appear at the house system, talk about that, Well.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
We've done a lot of the schools that have a
house system now are a result of having come to
Molar to look at Molar. Probably I started to say Seattle,
Ode is the farthest school, but we also traveled to
the Holy Land Wow and presented the house system to
the Latin Patriarch schools that you know there. So there
are there are quite a few schools now that have
(40:08):
the house system. There's an annual House System Institute held
every summer. This year is going to be in Nashville,
and I think we're sending for four of our faculty
members there.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
If you're a parent, a prospective parent out there and
you have a like parts said a sixth or seventh grader,
and maybe they're not you know, the big stud athlete,
or you know, maybe they're a quiet kid or an
introverted kid and they just really don't know what they're
and it's hard to ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen year
old kid to figure out what they want to do.
(40:40):
This is a great welcoming community and I think this
house system is a game changer.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, I also say this. You know, for the twenty
years when I was here and I was the director
of special Education, a lot of the students who we
worked with, you know down the CLC come in and
they're somewhat socially awkward, they don't have a wide circle
of friends, they may not be the most athletic. That's
(41:05):
where they find their home in the mentor group and
in the house. In their house, it's you could you
can talk to parents of students who have graduated and
they'll tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The competitive nature of it is fun for me to
watch like these guys.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
And it's not just athletics, No, that's only one part
of it.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, it's pretty special, Karen, thanks to you and everything
you've done to lead this thing with brother Ron of course,
and because it is if you can maybe address this
how labor intensive it is. You just don't wave a
magic wand and this House system just operates. There's a
lot of work, a ton of work. The deans talk
about that briefly.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Well, the first of all, the very first year of
the House system, we were really flying by the seat
of our pants. I remember Bruce Nelson was one of
the original deans and we'd be passing in the hallway saying, hey,
we have to be someplace at four o'clock tonight, don't
forget tomorrow. We were having, you know, this big lunch.
And well, all the deans now have a common planning period,
which is golden. We have the deans, the infamous Deans.
(42:09):
Then where all the magic happens, you.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Say, the commons. So they're all together being able to
bounce stuff off each other, and it's like ground zero.
It is.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
It's every a too. It's planning, it's reflecting on, you know,
how events went and how they can do them better.
And the sixteens, it's a it's a very close knit
group of a group of adults. They do all the
event you know, do all the events you know together.
But I'd be lying if I said it's not a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
For sure. It is. Kudos to all the deans. And
it's interesting you have deans that will hop every once
in a while too. Right, So there's Clayton Graham, he
was the pillar guy and he hops and now now
you know it's Jonathan Bennett now and.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
He didn't leave the house. He just left the dean.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
No, he's actually in another different house. So there's a
little bit of like it's just fascinating, it's really.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Cool, and we actually try to do that if if
a dean is stepping down, we oftentimes will put him
or her in a different house. Just says it's a
new dean.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Cheter all the kids ribbing him. It's fun. It's fun. Karen,
thank you, thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
There's what's Lenny doing right now? See list, He's probably
trying to find this on.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
The radio, you know what he should be and he
should be going to Joe Knucks all way and talk
a little hitting with these red legs.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But don't get me started on.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
You know, Lenny is going to pick me up at
eleven thirty and take me to lunch.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's what Lenny's taking Why castles, come on? We might
do you know something might do?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wendy so great, No.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Karen, congratulations, Embrace, Embrace, embrace. You've earned where you are. Now,
You've earned the experience of watching your grand your grandsons
come here and in the next couple of weeks are
going to be pretty emotional for you. But congratulations to family.
In the small world. Jeff Todd, her son in law,
and I grew up across the street from each other.
Oh no, Jeff, you should jump on my trampoline. We
(44:07):
should shove him in the locker. Yeah, he can't respond, so.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I can say, Jeff, by the way, it is the
Saint Xcreant, and I think he really thought that Carson
was going to go.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
To Saint X. How we looking, Marty. He broke that.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Halfway through Carson's freshman year. He said to Michelle, my daughter,
he made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
That's fantastic. That all's well, that ends well. That's Karen Metusick.
She is the goat. You know what goat stands for? Karen,
I do greatest of all time, one of the originators
of the House episode. She couldn't get into Pillar House,
so she became an adversaete.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Don't forget it's the it's the rule that Karen's you know,
Karen matusicrthing.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
To do with that, Karen, she's another Karen. That's unbelievable.
That's Karen mctusick the Goats on the Big Boat Podcast.
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bad podcast. Pulling those three in and you know, you
gotta be excited. I love when these kids come in
as freshmen. You just see that mature. We talk about
it all the time, the maturity process, how they grow.
Cooper McCutcheon is a great example of that, a young
man who came from Lebanon and just kind of bought
into the system, bought into the process, and you know,
(46:28):
he could have picked any number of top elite football
schools and chose North Carolina. His buddy Sam's going to
West Virginia. Gotta believe those two at some point will
meet in their college football career. But it's so gratifying
to see these guys make that transition through four years
and just love catching up with those guys.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
You work hard, man, and good things.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Are gonna happen. Amen, you know Amen, Prady the.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Good Lord above and and live light right, live life right,
and treat people right. And I'm telling you, if it
pays off, it really does.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Fun seeing these guys get these There's some breaking news
that I am not permitted to release yet with a
big name here at Molar getting an offer from a
big school, and so that's breaking that may by the
time this is released, it may already be out. But
it's fun. It's fun following on the success of these
guys in the classroom out of the classroom leadership. We
(47:21):
were with Danelle Shephard yesterday and you talk about it. It
was really the first time you had to kind of
sit down with Danell. You know, the passion and energy
he has and the pride he has at Moller. It's contagious.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, And if you're out there listening, man, and you haven't,
we say it all the time, come on back, dip
your toe in the water. Barrett has always said, this
bourbon and cigar event that we have on Friday, June
sixth is the perfect.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Opportunity, great entry point to.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Come back, dip your toe in the water. It's a
very relaxed atmosphere, very welcoming atmosphere, and you're gonna meet
some old friends and you're gonna meet some new friends,
and you're gonna be like, Wow, where.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Have I been? What are yeah doing? It's it's a
safe place because you can you can come to this
event if you choose to hide in the corner and
not talk to anybody. You can do that and you
won't stick out like a sore thumb. You could just
come and kind of take a look at the campus.
But good chance you will see somebody you know reconnect
(48:20):
and once that toe's in the water, you ain't coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You will fall back in love with a place that
never left your life.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's unbelievable. And you know, one of my favorite things,
and you know this about me, but is when people
do come back, and they might come back because a
friend invited them and they didn't want to come back,
but they came and then they start connecting dots. You know,
I'm doing this because of this and wow, I never
thought about this and that and what this person meant
(48:47):
to me. And when you see that magic happen with
an alum, it's pretty freaking special.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, you know, talk about your Denver chapter. There's Rhoda
is signed up for signing.
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Those guys coming from Denver to.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
From Denver for bourbon and cigar.
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You could come from coming to I think.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I'm coming back.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Renion. Yeah, if they can come from Denver, you can
come from Deer Park or Silverton or we're reading, or
wherever you are, spread the word and get here. June six,
you can go to molar dot org at the very top,
and he's done a phenomenal job with Louise and Betsy,
primarily Betsy and Jared to create a kind of a
one stop shop Molar dot org. At the top, you'll
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see a hyperlink. Take jump on that hyperlink and it'll
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