May 14, 2025 • 55 mins
Another Big Moe Podcast, this week, Andy and Big Moe Barrett talk to Carly Silverstein from "Sack the Stigma". Sack the Stigma was created in 2021 with the intention of destigmatizing mental health struggles (for everyone) and increasing access to mental healthcare among the current and former student-athlete population. They are partnering with Jordan Marshall this weekend for his football camp. Then we talkto the head honcho....Moeller President Jason Niehaus '93. Check out the BMP this week!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
WMO and the Moula Broadcasting that what probably was that?
The Big Mo Podcast. The Big Mo Podcast is brought
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Landscaping and now your hosts Andy Nagle and Big Mo Barrett.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's another rendition of the b MP Big Mol Beard
along with Andy Nagle and Rocket and Rowing Andy. We
are only what we're like. The seniors are like on
a launch pad right now and the countdown is on.
They have very few days left. Do you remember the
days before you graduated, all that excitement you have or
(00:37):
was it like a whirlwind and hard for you to recall?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's probably a long time ago. Yeah, hard to recall.
But but you're right, I mean back alla right. Masses
is on Sunday, believe it or not. And then in
a graduation what is it Wednesday or Thursday? Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Today's Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No? Next next week is it Wednesday or Thursday?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Graduation Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think the twenty first get confused between the bac
laureate mass and in graduation, which are two separate events.
I know I have to be at my son's men's
chorus concert tonight at seven. Beyond that, I have no idea,
and I got to somehow, somehow cut my grass in
between all these stories.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I know you've probably talked to Scotty p What
is uh, what's the court? What's tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't I don't know what they're saying believe about.
I don't know. Whatever it is, it's going to be awesome.
I'm sure, oh for sure, and I'm kind of glad.
I don't know. Be a surprise. I don't know. It
probably won't be a million dreams we've got of We've
done that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But a big weekend this weekend, Barrett. I mean, you
have Jordan Marshall's camp on Saturday. I know you're going
to talk about that. Uh. We have the Jerry Faust
Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Sunday, A big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is there another Hall of Fame in the country that
rivals molar from at a high school level? No, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I put it up against collegiates a lot of the
colleges with this, with the athletes that we've had go
through this building, it is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But because it's so good, it does come with a
little couple headaches.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do you ever get.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Text messages as the alumni director saying, you really are
missing the boat on this. There's a guy, and it
always is that guy's best friend, of course, or one
of his good friends, which makes sense, right, they played
with him whatever. But inevitably, as soon as it's an ouns,
as soon as it's an ass, you guys messed up.
You should have had this guy. What about this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
What about this guy?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Not at him? I always say that's true, that's true
because half the time did you nominate him? No, Well,
then he's not going to be in the mix. It's
thirteen thousand men of Molar come here. And I've said
this since Abner Double Day. I've said this, if there's
thirteen thousand alumni, give or take, I'm convinced that Molar
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alumni firmly believe at one point in time they think
twelve and twenty should be Hall of famers. Yeah, and
they might not be wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's pretty heavy, you know, talking to these guys that
are going in and you know when you when you say, hey,
you know, here's who's in it, and they finally realize that,
and then you are forever going to be part of
this when you're long gone, that's pretty heavy, man. I
mean it really is, with the names that are in
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this Hall of Fame right now, and it adds six
more to that list on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think I told you, but I'll tell everybody else.
You know, and working with Sam Hubbard over the years,
you know, Sam gets dinged by everybody, I mean everybody
right and their brother. And it's been very transactional with
him and my communications over the last hour of many years,
six seven years. But yesterday he texted me and it
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was a different feel. It was it was a different
It was like, you know, Bird, I can't wait. We've
always been Hey, we got this interview, can we do
can we do this? Can we do this autograph signing?
He said, I can't wait for Sunday. I'm really excited,
which is it was abnormal. It was like, but you
can tell. It's like he's embraces the importance to your point,
(04:18):
how heavy it is, Like how significant this is to
enter a Hall of Fame with not Joey Bega donut
name on the wall. These are big time names that
will live in immortality in the storied archives of storied
history of more or high school specially.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It is very humbling and you know, talking to talking
to all of them, I'm going to put the over
and under out of six guys going in, I'm going
to say probably all five, all six of them are
going to drop a teer. I mean, it is that
emotional when they get up there.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You do a great job that together. And it's a
little bit different now because it was Montgomery In and
now you had this idea, I like it of bringing
it back to campus.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Back to campus. It's it's our high school, and uh,
we should be proud of our high school and our spaces.
And you know, Montgomery In is still a big part
of it. They are you know, they are taking care
of our our food and they're our official sponsor of
the Hall of Fame. And we can't thank Tom Gregory
and Liz Winter, his right hand gal at Montgomery In,
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for for still taking care of this signature event at Moler.
But we're going to bring everybody back to the high
school and just you know, that's what it's about. It's
about this place, these walls. You know that everybody's walked
through these walls, even the non graduates. You know, you
got coach Held going in and he's been here twenty
(05:48):
nine years. Craig Lindsay's going in as athletic train. He's
been hit him yesterday during the Coaches Show. And for
for a math guy that you usually is, is pretty good.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
He was.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, I put him on the spot, you got
him on the roops.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He was fumbling a little and I said, hey, cut,
he's got I said, I'm just trying to get you
prepped for Sunday, buddy, And I mean, this is just
me and him, you know, on the Coaches Show yesterday.
Now you got to stand up in front of about
one hundred and fifty people and uh and get through this. So,
you know, Craig Lindsay's been here thirty years, and it's
I know, just when we did the interviews with these guys,
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the emotion that they had sitting in a chair. Carl Woods,
you know, seventy seven grad when you talk about you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't think. I
don't I don't think Carl Woods. Will, I don't I
do think. Craig Lindsay. Will Who are the other ones?
Sam Might?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sam might Well, Zach Log He's got some chu he
does well. Will we'll spill the bean Zachson, South Korea.
So we we had him record his acceptance speech and uh,
he did not shed a tear. I don't leave, but
his mom and dad might, right, Jen log will. But
it's just just neat, I mean, and it's part of
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the you know, I add a little bit to it.
And one of the things I'll say about Carl Woods
being in that seventy seven class and being in that
golden age of Mollar football with Coach Faust. You talk
about it, you say it all the time about standing
on the shoulders of giants. This guy was a giant,
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and the Molar football players that have come since those
are one of those giants that they're standing on the
shoulders of Carl Woods.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Lots of work goes into it, but this really kind
of just officially kicks off the entire summer, right because
this is the first of many things. You got the
golf outing, you got bourbon cigars and all those events, unions,
all these teachers, God love them, they're they're they're kind
(08:02):
of checking out. My wife's one of them, so I
make fun of me, and I think I'm allowed because
I'm married. One They're like, oh, this summer is almost
must be nice. We don't get that to do. Yeah,
we're hammering Wayne. In fact, we're getting ready to turn
it up until about the end of June. At the
end of the ship, we get like three weeks off there,
and then.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We're already playing for the fall. I got a meeting
tomorrow with the football team, the nineteen sixty five guys,
Jack Monahan. I'm meeting with him tomorrow, and that was
the first undefeated football team. So we're going to do
a little special special honor for them in the fall.
So we're already playing it next year, folks, So buckle up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's going to be a fun ride, rocking and rolling,
all right, Andy and I are going to step out
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Molar High School and the Big Mo Podcast. We're rolling
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along in the Big Bo Podcast, Andy Nagle, Big Bo
Barrett and our first guest on the show, excited to
bring on Carly Silverstein. Andy, this is cool that we're
bringing Carly on because it is actually here at Moehler
Wellness Week wellness obviously incorporating physical wellness, but also mental wellness.
(10:32):
And then you tie into the fact that Sacked the
Stigma is partnering up as well with Jordan Marshall this
weekend in the Jordan Marshall Football Camp. Andy, but mental
health is certainly a big deal. Now, Carly, we are
excited to have you join us. I'm excited because you
because you're a Michigan gal. You Let's tell everybody a
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little bit about you before we bring you on. You
bring mental health experience to sack this stigma. We'll talk
about that program in a minute. You are serving as
their director of Philanthropy and Communication, engaging and work with
a number of different clients, including the Kansas City Chiefs.
I believe to help make positive strides in mental health space,
especially the stigma surrounding athletes seeking help. Carli graduated with
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a master's in Social work from the University of Michigan,
Go Blue.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
She did her undergraded Georgia, but.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Her undergraded Georgia. That's how about that interesting spin there, progress,
Certified Performance Consultant, certification, certifications whatever. While attending Michigan, Carly
worked with the Michigan Football Recruiting Department and also bln
D Health for her clinical field placement. Prior to Michigan,
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Carly attended the University of Chargia, where she received her
bachelor's in Psychology minor in Sports Management, Human Development and
Family Sciences. But she is She's also worked with the
Georgia football program as well, and they're with their recruiting department,
but she's never ever been on the Big Mo podcast. Carly,
Welcome to the Big Show.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
to be here. What an introduction about?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
How about that thank goodness for stack thesacdistigma dot com
website that kind of gets me in the new Andy.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Go ahead, Carly, real quick question before we start. Yeah,
obviously you are a you know, I know in your
your field that you're working in. But are you a
Michigan fan or are you a Georgia fan when it
comes to fall Saturday?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let me let me put it before you answer that.
We put a caveat we have. We have a gun
to your head and you have to put on one jersey. Jersey?
What jersey you're going to say the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Don't take the easy way out and say the Kansas
City Chiefs. You will really get people in Cincinnati upset
at you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
For all right, let's see how she Dan will see
this one. Let's see how she works, to see if
she's a magician. Go ahead, Carly, I.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Am both for sir everyone always, but I will answer
your question, but I'll get my background first. I am both.
I always laugh everyone's like, you're such a bandwagon. I'm like, well, no,
I actually have a degree from both, thank you, so
I can here for both. I grew up in Atlanta,
so my dad actually went to Michigan. My grandma, my aunt,
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and my cousin all went to Michigan. So I did
grow up. I would always say, this is a cop
out answer, but I'm a Georgia football fan but a
Michigan basketball fan. But I will cheer for both in
all of the above. But I genuinely would say, I mean,
I grew up going to appens every single Saturday for
like my entire life, so I will always be a
dog at heart first if I had to absolutely choose one.
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But I will always be a Michigan Overine basketball fan first.
So I think if georgea Michigan played in basketball, I
cheer for Michigan. I think if Georgia Michigan played in football,
I cheer for Georgia. So catch twenty two, I guess,
but I am both. I am both on record, I
am both, and I'm not a bandwagon. I did grow
up fan of both, and I do have agree from
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degree from both. But it was funny because the first
year I was at Michigan. They played each other for
the first time in like fifty something years, and so
dramatic of me. But I literally walk into the stadium
and I like cried because I was like, I know
every single person on that field. I don't even know
what I'm supposed to do with myself. This is so weird.
I don't know what's the way why I was wearing
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Michigan clothes because I worked their time, But and Mayor
and Ida had a Georgia item of clothing underneath. So
I have to balance it all out in some way.
Use reform, for I.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Think it's unfair that Andy posed that question to put
you in a bad spot. Was a great answer, That
was a great That was a good thing you sold me.
You are one of the co founders I believe of
Sacked the stigma, which is created in twenty twenty one
with the intention of and I love this destigmatizing mental
health struggles for everyone, certainly in the discipline of athletics,
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and increasing access to mental health care among the current
and former student athlete population. Your goal is to raise
awareness of the issue, educate students on available and feasible resources,
and then ultimately increase access to mental health care opportunities
among the subset of university students. What is really cool
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for me is you the work that you're doing, the
Lord's work. It is working because I I've been doing
this high school gig for a long time and when
I started, mental health was a little taboo. You didn't
talk about it. Nobody, nobody, you know, was open about it.
Now it's a it's a I don't want to say,
a common thing that is brought up, but it is okay.
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It's a safe topic now to talk about mental health.
And so kudos to you sacked the stigma. Who is
a part of this Jordan Marshall camp on Saturday. I
think what you guys are doing is the Lord's work
and it's a it's much needed, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Thank you. I appreciate that we do, I mean to
do dives and kind of the why behind it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Sure, yeah, absolutely, Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I appreciate you saying that, and I think it's one
thing to break the stigma, but it's another thing to
like actually have people listen to it. So, I mean,
we can only do so much. But I think really
the reason that any conversations are being had, it's because
of coaches like y'all and other coaches that are actually
willing to open up and let their kids talk to
them and let their students athletes talk to them. Because again,
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like I said, one thing to talk for us as
I'm a therapist, so it's easy for me to be like, yeah,
it's important, but that only goes so far if nobody
else comes along with it. So thank you all obviously
too for representing this and having along this week and
talking about mental health as a part of that. But
what having said too talks to stigma, really tries to
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break down those barriers in sort of creative ways. So
our goal is really to create conversations, and so that
can look like a bunch of different things. So we've
done merchandise campaigns, we've done some video campaigns, we've done
specific posts, et cetera, et cetera, but we really try
to do it till we start conversations, right, So we
did a nine eight eight campaign that was one of
our first campaigns, which was raising awareness for the suicide bipline,
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and we had a conversation and we did a video
that went along with it, and then we did a
playbook campaign. So what's in your mental health playbook? What
are your coping skills? What are your tools? What are
your red flags? What are the things that you need
to notice when you need to access your playbook or
when your teammate needs to access fair playbook, or even
when you need to go actually seek help. What does
that line and what does that look like? And so
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it was cool because we actually had a student athlete
talking to us about wearing the shirt, and basically he said,
whenever I wear the shirt, it's so supported because somebody
cares enough to make it and somebody cared enough by it.
And so it helped me get through one of my
really rough times because I just wore the shirt of
comfort to get me the courage to eventually open up.
And then I was at that was at Michigan, and
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I was at a Georgia game wearing a nine eight
eight sticker one time and had a professor come up
to me actually and he was like, oh, what's nine
eight eight? And it was a stock a Stigma nine
eight eight sticker and can you guys signed what it was?
So I side my friend and he was like, Wow,
I didn't even know that existed. I'm going to put
that on all of my lecture scribes from here on out.
So my one interaction with one person, because one item
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of clothing that I was wearing now hopefully impactage three
hundred plus kids in lecture halls every semester from here
on out. So that was a relatile moment of just
wearing one thing. And I almost never wear my sec
with Sigma stuff and don't get questions or asked or
whatever it is. And then I get to go on
my little spiel and yap about how important this is,
which is so fun.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, Colin, and you.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Know what you're talking about is you're talking about just
talking and just simply talking. I remember I was before
I got into this career. I was a hostage negotiator
with the SWAT team for Hamilton County and I went
through some FBI classes in Columbus, Ohio, and the talk
of mental health came up, and specifically suicide. And I
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remember one of the instructors telling us it is okay
to ask somebody because there's a fear like have you
had suicidal thoughts? And it's taboo and the fear of
a lot of people is and this is specifically directed
towards suicide but the fear of you know, if I
ask them that, then it's going to introduce the idea
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to them that that's a possible an out for and
it's completely false. Like so, but by saying that, have
you had bad thoughts? Have you? Have you not been
in a stay? You're not gonna enter. They're not going
to say, well, wow, you know what, never thought about that?
That's an option for me. But to call it out,
to hit it where it is, to be open about it,
to talk about it, to get the to get people talking.
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To what your point is nine eight eight whatever. To
get people talking is therapeutic. And you've done this for
a profession. That's what people need to do. They need
to talk about their feelings, talk about where they are
because the reality is, at some point in our lives,
all of us have a degree of mental health that
we have to work through. Correct.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Every single person has been I'll have a mental illness.
We all have mental health. And you would be surprised
by how many times that I've had conversations with people
that I will be directed and say something specific, whether
it's about suicide or even like yeah, let's name those emotions,
and they're like wow, that was relieving to just fail out,
like it's almost like, okay, it's relieving to get it
off my chest. It's relieving to have this conversation because
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when you bobble it up, it eventually comes out in
one way or another.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And there's no worse feeling Carly and I than feeling
like you are on an island by yourself. That is
a terrible feeling. The weight that that puts on somebody
into as you said, identify, we called it emotional labeling.
To be able to identify and emotion identify the way
somebody feeling that that's very freeing for somebody who's burdened
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down by what some people might not consider a big deal.
It is a big deal. And that's to be on
an island by yourself to sort of open up is
so powerful, right.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent, it really is. And I,
like you said, it's powerful. And I always say vulnerability
saves lives, whether it's you being vulnerable saves your own
life or vulnerability can save somebody else's life. You really
are never alone. I think time and come again. The
more work I do with I feel is you really
realize that no one is truly by themselves and any
of the feelings that they're feeling. And I will be
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the first to say, like you, I will never exactly
know everything that you're going through. That is, every person
is experiencing life in their own way, so I will
never fully understand every single feeling and thing that you have. However,
I will always listen.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And that's empathy. I mean, that's a definition of empathy exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
So I think that that's taking that approach to anyone
you have a conversation with and also being open minded.
Its role versus two is like, Okay, dim, I not
exactly know what I'm going through, but at least they're
there for me and they're willing to listen, and I
know that I'm not alone and feeling the things that
I'm feeling, because that is truly over and over again,
I've been the release and they like I know that
I'm not alone and continuing to break down that sigma.
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And that's why a lot of the stuff that we do.
I think I told you this the other day, but
we were talking about one thing that I want to
have the stigma to be doing is we have an
action item with everything that we do, So like Jordan
will have a work keep that he's handing out for
the kids at his camp to go home and do
with their parents and have a conversation about mental health.
Their workheaps with all of our campaigns. Our campaigns are
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representing a specific either specific cause or specific raising money
to help people with mental health or for a specific
like resource of some sort. The partners that we all
do people that can they can talk with or communicate
with or whatever it may be. And so I think
that the more people that do this work the better
because the more time, the more we can break down
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that stigma. That's important, and then I think the action
items that we add to it can be really beneficial.
And that's I think really a passion of mine is
to make sure, Okay, now we've we've broken the sigma,
Now what do we do about it? And so Jordan
doing this camp is a perfect example of that, which
I think is cool. And you guys doing this podcast,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, Carly, I think I was at the University of
Cincinnati with their baseball program from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three and just raising the awareness and having conversations
these student athletes, especially and I'm not this is for everybody.
This is all inclusive. But you know, obviously your organization
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focuses onto student athletes. And I've had many conversations with
our baseball guys when I was there, you know, those
behind the door, cry on the shoulder type deal. There's
so much pressure that these student athletes go through, not
only on the field, but off the field. And now
you throw in the nil and you have all the
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friends and the parents and the families chirping in their ear.
You need to do this, you need to do this,
you need to do this. Oh, by the way, I
got a pay per due and we're competing for a
big twelve championship and this, that and the other thing.
And you know, it's great that there is an outlet
for these guys and with us. And I don't know
if I've been removed for two years, so I don't know.
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Like sometimes it was, you know, our our trainers, our
athletic trainers would say, hey, if you have a problem,
you can come to us. We will get you help,
and we will not even you know, we won't tell
your coaches or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Eh.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I would rather have the coaches in on that. I know,
sometimes the anonymous the player just kind of wants to
doesn't want the coach to know because he he wants
to stay in the lineup type deal. But man, there's
just so much and the more we can have these
high profile programs and players like Jordan coming down from
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Michigan and when regular you know, when these younger kids
see that at Jordan Marshall, who you know, is a
standout athlete at Molor High School and a standout athlete
at at the University of Michigan. When Jordan Marshall says
it's okay to ask for help, I mean that has
hit huge weight with the rest of society and the
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rest of these people that man, it's okay if Jordan
Marshall has issues, and yeah, I need to talk about
this just to get through my daily life.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, I mean I was telling Jordan this day, it's
funny I helped recruit him and now he's on the team,
and it's just always the full circle moment. It's always
like I feel like a prop mom. But he is
incredible and I think we were talking to him about
this the other day of I think all these kids
expect athletes to be the superheroes and to not have
emotions and to not feel anything. And in reality, I
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tell the kids I work with a lot of the time,
I'm like, none of us would have a job if
all of these college athletes and professional athletes and adults
and people didn't have feelings like this is why it's important.
And so I think that him doing that, I was
telling him how important that is and how special it is.
It's not something that is taken for granted. And I
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think he doesn't even know how many lives google impact
by having this conversation, because exactly like you said, people
look up to him, and they don't look up to
him because he's perfect. They look up to him because
they think he is. And so him they're gonna look
up to him whether or not he's quote unquote perfect,
but they just perceive him in a certain way. And
so him being real, him being vulnerable, the vulnerability saves
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lives like him having those conversations and telling these kids, like,
you know what, it's okay for you to help. It's
also okay for you to feel a lot of emotions.
You're gonna you're gonna have ups and down. So that
emotional roller coaster campaign we're doing right now. You're gonna
have life that pulls you in a million different directions.
It's okay to get help, it's okay to talk about it,
and it's okay to rely on the people around you
because I've been there, so you also are not alone.
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And I think that that is going to, especially for
the older kids, be really eye opening. He's like, Wow,
he's been in the shoes that I have been. Okay,
maybe I can get help. This is what he did, Carl,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
This is awesome. I mean, for folks that want to
check it out, it's Sackthstigma dot com. They have a
phenomenal website if you navigate to the website, they also
have an emotional roller coaster campaign, a mental health playbook,
some stories on there as well. I would like I
would look good in one of those Blake Korum Sacked
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the Stigma Michigan sweatshirts. Make that happen to Carly so
I can spread the message of Sack the Stigma here
at Big mo I'm extremely proud of what you do
with the organization. I'm really excited that Moeller, in some
small way, can play a role in spreading that message.
Out of mental health and excited to have you guys
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represent it here at the Jordan Marshall Camp Saturday, eleven
am to one pm here on the campus a big mill.
I saw Jordan did a video which I understand was
the most viewed video that you guys have put out
with Jay, and that certainly doesn't surprise Andy or I.
That's just who he is and fortunately hopefully we'll have
three more years with him up in Michigan and continue
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to spread that message. And kudos to everything you guys
are doing. It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Thank you, and thank you so much for having me.
It's been so much fun talking with you guys. And
if there's anything I can ever do to help you
all out or help out your school, I'm sure all
three of us Quoth founders would be more than happy
to help you out anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Outstanding Carly, Carly, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Thanks Carly, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's Carly Silverstein with the the Sack of the Stigma
here at Molar High School in the Big MO podcast
and cool stuff. Andy very good.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, and you know I want to give a quick
shout out to to Alison Oakley here at Molar for sure,
who does who handles our wellness in our mental health
programs and our guidance counsel in our guidance office. But
Allison kind of champions that that what mental health and
wellness here at Molar. So we got to give Alison
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a shout out as well.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Absolutely, absolutely good stuff happening here on the campus at
Big Mo. It is the forefront, especially during this wellness Week,
of everything that has happened with our young men here
on the campus at Big mol. Andy. We've got a
big show coming up at Jason Kneehouse. The El Presidente
will be making an appearance on the b MP and
more when we come back on the best coverage of
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We'll see you on the campus of Big Mill A
big little podcast, and it's my pleasure to have the
president of Moeller High School, Jason Nienhouse, in the studio.
(30:19):
And Jason, we got to know each other pretty well.
You took a trip to Denver before we start talking
about some of the things coming up. That was a
fun trip though, and it was you did Columbus obviously,
which is very special to go up to Columbus your
first regional trip, and then to Denver. I've said it
before and I think you would agree. There's there's something
that fills the tank when you go to those places
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and hear the passion they have for Moller High School.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Well, barret to write about that.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
And there's one other regional trip I didn't make, and
that was down to down of Florida. First, let's confflicted
with the Big East tournament that I had to be
fair for you.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That was that was planned well before the regional trip
to Florida was playing. It wasn't like we could go
to the big eat.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
That tradition, correct.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
But I just deal to those alums down in out
down in Florida when you saw the posts that were
going on, both in Columbus and in Denver.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I have no fear.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I am coming to Florida next year and looking forward
to being with you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But you're right, it won't be the tournament weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
No, it won't.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
We'll we'll we'll plan plan right right, But it is.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
It is remarkable to be in the regions and interacting
with with alums both Columbus and in Denver, to go
out and to share what is happening here at Molre,
but more importantly, to absorb the molar stories from each
of our individual alums. What connects them back to the
school is what we get to bring back and share
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with our students and to connect the great things that
our alums are doing out there, bringing their experiences back
to our students and kind of giving them that experiential
and authentic learning that is so important in regards to
our real learning philosophy.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It is you know, it is. It is a lot
of time.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
And as you well know, we we battle altitude.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know, we won't tell that tell that story. That's
kind of funny because you're ten times that I am
and you had to tap.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Out man went went down.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
So uh, you know, these these alumni trips, we do
put a lot of work into them and and great
sacrifices and bear it to you and to Mary and
to Brother Ron, to to Andy Nagel who make these trips.
You know, there are sacrifices that come along with this,
and individuals may view this as is, you know, all
all fun because of what we get to do in post.
(32:41):
But boy, you know, we we met here at Moller
High School at three am, you know for a five
thirty am flight, get out to Denver, Charlotte, to Charlotte,
then over to Denver, Land and Denver, get our rental
car drive down to Colorado Springs for the Air Force
Academy tour, which was absolutely magnificent. But we're already working
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on fumes as far as sleep is concerned. Then you
compound that with the amount of walking that we did.
I don't remember how many steps you said, we did.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So I take that seven point eight miles walk so
so exhausting one day one one day day altitude.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Not being cognizant of the fact that we needed to hydrate.
We go and we we meet several other alums for
a dinner.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I'm starting to feel it, you know what, I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Just after the seven point eight walk, I'm beginning to
feel it. And I could tell there was you started, Peter,
and now a little bit. I'm like, not good, Marty,
not good.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
How we look we look at it?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Not good?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
You know it was he started to start to get
the sweats going on. And we're sitting on a high
top barstool, and you know, and so we do order
and I'm maybe two French fries end things and little
food's going to help.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
No, not not.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Going in fact that your me was even delivered yet. No,
it did, it did it delivered?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was delivered.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
I had two fries and I said, you know, guys,
I need to go out and get some fresh air.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I did, I did.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
But I tell you what, Jason Williams was awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He was he was like, man, not everybody can handle
the the air pressure.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I am.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
I am one of them that that to do a
little little pre work there and preparing for that. But
nonetheless it was an extraordinary trip. You know, we had
the opportunity to Air Force Academy, we had the opportunity
to go to Liberty Commons School. You know Bob Schaeffer
and the work that he's doing out there is just,
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you know, you unbelievable. You know when you say how
far as as Molar's reach.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You know, Bob Schaeffer an alum of Molar.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Uh, you know, headmaster the school out there, and you
see elements you know of our house system there in
you know, in Denver, as well as the intentionality around
your mission and values. The extraordinary things that he's doing
with this yes, walking down the hallways and students making
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eye contact and the confidence of those young men and
women because it's a co ed school, you know. But
I will tell you above all things that we saw
at Liberty Commons, it was the truck. And so we're
not going to go into details about that because we're
not going to put any ideas and would not know
that Denali would not look good.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Correct. I think it looked great, Actually maybe not your estates.
I think it would look good. I like, when I
asked you, I said, are you going to do that
to your truck? You said, yeah, I'll do it to
my truck. I'm just not going to take it off.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Can Well, I said, I would have go and and
find a five hundred dollars truck.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That I can I can't find anymore. And when is
that going to happen? So it is fun, I mean,
and then you hear in What's what makes me excited
is then you hear that three of the guys at
maybe four in Denver are coming back this June for
Bourbon cigar and their reunions and stuff. So it's special.
And I wish I could and I've said this a
(36:13):
million times. You've heard me say that you you could
bottle that emotion and bring it back here to our
faculty and staff, which were trying to do it right now.
But let the faculty and staff just feel that just
a portion of that, and boy, it's invigorating, it really is.
Christine doctor brook Bank was able to for the first
time experience in Florida. She went in your place to Florida.
(36:34):
She came back saying the same thing, and it's it's
it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
And and you know, this past week, I had the
opportunity of doing pizza with the present with our seniors,
and I was talking about the power of the Molar network,
you know, the the Molar Alumni Association, which brings to
you know, the events that we do have coming up.
I told these young men, you know, come back, just
go get involved and engaged in the various events that
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we have here at Molar. Whether it's sporting events or
whether it's bourbon and cigars, whether it's the sports tag,
whether it's the golf ounting. These are opportunities for our
young men to connect and to build relationships with individuals
who are out there doing remarkable things in the community,
business owners, business leaders. And so if you want a
pathway to you know, to your future, whether it be
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internship or future job, you know, lean on us back here.
Get engaged because the power of the Molear network truly
is something that is amazing. And we saw that out
in Denver as well too. We're going to lean in
on some of that and bring it back into the classroom.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And but you said something that's key because the Molar network,
it's what attracted me to Molar High School. It's powerful,
extremely powerful, but it's only as powerful as those who
leverage it. Right the phrase you can bring a horse
to water, you can't make them drink. There is a network,
there's a power here and it's and I like how
you told these guys engage it, leverage it, because if
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you do, when a man of Molar meets a man
of Molar, whether it's nineteen sixty four or twenty twenty five,
there's a natural connection, you know, the kind of guy
you're getting. The other thing I liked that you said
to them, which was really cool, showed your humility. Is
when you said thank you, thank you for welcoming me,
whether it was a handshake, whether it was just eye contact,
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whatever it was. And that humility I think goes such
a long.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Way with these guys all well, and that's very that
is very genuine.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
You know, Barrett, I will be forever endeared to the
class of twenty twenty five. You know, this was the
year in which I came back home to Molar, and
as I said to each of them, whether you directly indirectly,
whether you knowingly or unknowingly, you know, sent a signal
to the rest of the school that you know that
I was, you know, one of you, and it's just
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eye contact, handshake, good morning, mister Niehouse, whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Those little things or not little, they armed.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
They are not.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
And so the power of just small connections, right, And
I think that again, and when you talk, when you
when you compound that over across the entire Molar network,
just small brief connections build you know, momentum to extraordinary things.
And that's really, you know what I have the ability
to do what I'm you know, so thankful for in
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this role is just making connections. We all share a
common purpose and a common passion, and now it's about
putting it all together to go out and do even
more remarkable things here at this institution and all of
our students in a lum which this school represents.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Lots of opportunities for fans out there too, in alumni
and the Mular family to meet Jason Neehouse. He will
be at every I think, every one of our events.
Of course, we got we got the Hall of Fame
coming up shortly, we got the bourbon cigars, we got
the golf outing. I have not seen Jason's golf swing yet,
so I cannot confirm nor deny his ability or in
(40:00):
ability to hit a golf ball. But we will soon
find out. Because I think I think you got what
you got on. You got the Jordan Marshall Camp. Are
you going to be there Saturday?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
You know, Jordan Marshall is coming in. The Jordan Marshall
Camp is going to be on that set on Saturday,
and I will stop by. I will tell you something, Barrett.
You know what I had the opportunity to watch Jordan
play and what an extraordinary athlete Jordan is. So just
alone to have, you know, the opportunity for Jordan to
(40:30):
work with you know, young men at his camp, uh
is you know, is a you know, an opportunity that
is very unique. However, you know, and just the brief
amount of time that I've had to interact with Jordan,
what is even more powerful about Jordan is who he
is as a person. And so when you have those
two components, when you're trying to really develop the talent
(40:53):
that you have as an athlete, but then you can
compliment that with the exclamation point of who you are
as a part person. I mean to me, that's really
what you know, what why I want to come you
know on Saturday and interact with with him a bit
is to see what type of person he is touching
the lives of young men who were wanting to emulate
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what he's doing, not only as an athlete but as
a person.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah. And a big and a big shout out to
Lance McAllister on seven hundred w l W last night,
who gave some props in promo to Jordan and his
camp on Saturday, eleven o'clock to one o'clock on Saturday.
My question to you, he's got some big thighs Mono
Imano squats you versus j Marsh Who can put who
can throw some more weight around?
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Well, it's a quite are we doing it for? Are
we doing how many reps? One or multiples?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
What works against your favorite?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Multiples? Multiples?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
All right, we're gonna go multiples in. But he's got
he's got some big thighs. Man. I saw a video
of him that we produced when he was a freshman.
Just yesterday, any Nagel and I were looking at I
was going through preparing videos for the Hall of Fame.
We got a bunch of them we're putting together. Saw
one when he was a freshman to see what he
looks like now, night and day. It's it's unbelievable. I'd
love to see the maturation process, not just of our
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student athletes, but of our our young men in the
classroom and how they evolve over four years, not just
from a physical standpoint, but just maturity that it's it's
the best I've always said this, it's the best part
of my job, and I'm sure yours is seeing that
transformation over four years.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
And being involved in the various classroom kind of experiential components,
whether it's the student run endowment, whether it's the entrepreneurial
class who are doing pitches on on startups.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
You know, to see what these.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Young men are doing is again you talk about an
overused term, you know, on this particular broadcast, it's remarkable,
and there's just no other term to describe it. I'm
gonna have to get out my you know, my bizarros
and and start to to begin to utilize some other
words to describe what it is that that we're seeing here.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
But but you're you know, you're right.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I'm looking forward to the extraordinary opportunities that we have
over the course of the coming weeks. It's you know,
it's the Jordan Marshall camp here coming up this Saturday.
Bourbons and Cigars that's on June sixth or seventh, June.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Twenty first, I thought I could keep talking.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
And also, so we've got bourbon and cigars that that's
coming up. We have the the golf outing that's coming up,
and then of course as we you know, as we're
going into you know, the late summer in early fall,
we will have the the sports Stag with Hey, how
about the right is that is that final week in June.
(43:47):
So so I'm really looking forward to right before I.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Head to Disney. Disney huh hold your I was gonna
I was waiting for your goofy comment. But yeah, I
had got the golf outing and on Friday, and we
drive down to Disney on Saturday. So it's gonna be
a fun weekend for me for sure.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Disney's always is always a great time. And my daughter
and I we were talking a little bit about that
last night.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
So you just got to save up like twenty five
years of you know, money, just to afford to go
down there. It's unbelievable, Jason. The honeymoon's over you figuratively
and literally, I see you often roll your sleeves up.
The honeymoon's over. You're getting down to work now, aren't you.
We are.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Yeah, and it's really have a great level of confidence
in the leadership team that we have here in the
faculty and staff that we have here at Moller, which
is really now allowing me to shift my focus and
attention on you know, the strategy you know on And not.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
To interrupt you, but I just did. Sorry to talk
while you're interrupting. Guess what Tom Gregory always says, But
now you have a summer now the kind of Okay,
I got my first got my appetite you or whatever
you want to call it, got my first taste of it.
Now I can kind of step back now and let's
let's get together at the beginning of the summer and
really formulate a plan to what it's going to take
to get Molar to that next level.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Yeah, and and you're right, it will have you know,
three months. And so during spring break I had the
moment to just come up for air for that brief
period of time to refocus.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Which.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
He was not whack a mole.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
He was in he was He did not balk me
on the on the head there. But you know it
allowed for me just to take a step back and
take a look at how we were going to structure
you know, uh meetings that would really begin to drive
you know, the work. And so now June, end of May,
in the beginning of June is when we.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
Will really again figure to figureatively and literally roll up
the sleeves and define what the work is going to
be here to move us to that next you know,
that next.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Level of excellence.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
You know, excellence is always the standard, and we're achieving
excellence here, but we have to raise the bar. One
of our alums, who I have the opportunity of working with,
Mark Clement, who happens to also be a board member,
uses a quote by.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Steve Jobs, I believe it is it said it.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
You know, if the pace of change on the outside
exceeds the pace of change on the inside, the end
is near, right, and so we have to constantly move
towards that next level of excellent.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Staying in place is falling behind, right. And so that's.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Really where we are in lockstep. We have a leadership
team that is ambitious and really sees, you know, the
next peak that we're going to be climbing to and
I'm just thrilled to be a part of it. I
couldn't be more excited, not only internally with the individuals
that we have to work with, but the entire Mole
Or family that is united around making this school the
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best high school in the country.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I have a quote, plan your work and work you're playing,
and that's kind of what you're talking about. He is
the president. We got to get some presidentialer of the
of Molar High School. Jason Neehouse class of ninety three
the best class in Molar history.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Right, that is correct? Without question.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's funny whoever has the headsets on that class is
the best class in Molar history.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
And I have nobody here to refuse.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Correct correct nobody. Executive producer Joe Strecker is in ninety
three grand as well, so we're all ninety three. Second,
Do I.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Hear any any any opposition?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Eric?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It is ninety three? He's president. Jason me House. Big
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Wrapping up another BMP Andy, another good show. The energy
that Jason has is exciting. He just you could tell though,
and I said it. You know in the interview you
were not in here, you were in the green room.
But you've seen him figuratively and literally roll up his
sleeves like he's the honeymoon's over. It's time to get
(49:26):
to work.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
He we had you actually did that interview. We had
an advancement alumni meeting and you kind of we circled
back and you and I met with a Notre Dame
Academy director of advancement after that meeting, but we met
with several schools and Jason kind of welcomed those schools.
We had about twenty people in there. I don't know
(49:48):
how many schools represented, maybe a dozen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
He was awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
I mean, he thanked everybody.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Elder here, elders out here. Did sate X no show.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
St X was a no show. Roger Bacon was here.
Notre Dame Academy, UH, Covington Latin, Mercy McCauley, they were here.
Mercy McCauley, UH, the Archdiocese were here. So we got
an update on Archbishop Casey and Pope Leo and was
not here. He was not here, but just talking about
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both of those.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
I guess you think we can get Pope Leo on
the Big MO podcast.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
I guess the the joke down at the AOC is
you have a Chicago and that's in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati.
Now you got a Chicago and that's in the uh
in the big seat in Rome was the Chicago mob
and replacement of these high ranking officials.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Did you see don't email me people, that is a joke.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Did you hear there? See the White Sox and Cubs
start to have an argument on hell yeah, who he
cheered for the Cubs? Originally I could be wrong. Wrigley
Field put we finally got our guy, or welcome, he's
one of us or something like that in the Cubs
billboard or on their out that marquee on the outside,
(51:06):
that famous marquee in the White Sox put that he's
a he's a White Sox fan. And they're going back
and forth on social media. I mean, it was free,
free entertainment.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
And there's videos of him at the five Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
World Series, followed by an interview with his brother who
confirmed after they went back and forth, that he indeed
was a White Sox fan. And now all these Cubs
fan have to e crow. And I don't like the Cubs.
I don't like their fans. So I thought it was great.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I think it's so cool and I'm sure when other
popes were were elected, you know, years ago, their native
countries probably did the same thing. But I'm fascinated and
following all these stories. I mean, he had mass in
the Saint Peter Chapel, uh in the in the in
the catacombs of the Vatican the other day, and just
(51:57):
watching that video and then it pans over and there's
a brother. You know, you have all these priests and
all the vestments, and there's his brother in a plaid
shirt and he's one of us, and he's down there,
and I'm sure he called him Bob or Rob after
the after the but it's like, this is so cool, man,
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Its awesome cool. Never in the in our lifetime did
I think we'd see an American pope.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
No, it's it's neat.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So it's not outside the realm of even remote possibility
that we get the pope sitting right next to you
and me on the Big Mo podcast. Don't don't doubt me,
Eddie Dangel, don't doubt me.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
You got a mission, a mission.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Let's get Archbishop Casey first.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
We'll get him first. Let's get him, We'll get him first.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
He looks like a good dude to that. That guy
always smiling man, always smiling.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And he's engaging with the students. He likes to talk
to him before the mass after mass. I love it.
I think it's it's what it's what the church needs,
you know. It's just a simple what a simple And
we talked about it on the show. A simple smile
and a laugh. It was a long way.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
There's a here's a good story real quick. The archdiocese
the rapid It was David I can't remember his name,
that was at our meeting yes at our meeting yesterday,
the archbishop had a mass because they're doing these memorial
masses for Pope Francis, and they had one up in
Dayton and I can't remember which parish.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
It was.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
A very Hispanic parish. Archbishop Casey went up there, had
a vigil mass for Pope Francis, did the whole mass
in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
How cool is that? That's really cool?
Speaker 3 (53:35):
And David's it's never happened before, never happened before. And
he stayed for an hour and a half after Mass
and greeted every person that was there that waited for
him to say hi and shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
That's cool. He gets it. He gets it, and that's
what we need.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
That's what we need. We need engagement to bring people
back to did you see Fatim of the other eard
two hundred and fifty thousand people celebrating at Fatima.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
People say the Catholic Church is dead. It is not.
It is certainly not. So it's good stuff, very good stuff. Andy,
do you have any questions for me? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Saturday?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Got a busy day. We do a busy day. We
got the Now you're setting up for the while the
Jordan Marshall camp's going on. You'll set up.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
You'll be on the backfield, mister Gregory, uh, keeping an
eye on the Jordan Marshall camp. It's great that that
bigs giving back.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, and big thanks to Tommy who is providing the
I mean, these kids are coming in for a camp.
They have no idea. They're to begin mucumbery in about
about pad. That's not bad, Martin.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
That's the and I will be setting up the uh,
the commons and uh as that camp's going on, and
then it's it's go time on Sunday. It'll be a
good day, good weekend.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
That's Andy Nagle. Another rendition to the b MP. You're
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's another rendition of the b MP Big Mol Beard
along with Andy Nagle and Rocket and Rowing Andy. We
are only what we're like. The seniors are like on
a launch pad right now and the countdown is on.
They have very few days left. Do you remember the
days before you graduated, all that excitement you have or
(00:37):
was it like a whirlwind and hard for you to recall?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's probably a long time ago. Yeah, hard to recall.
But but you're right, I mean back alla right. Masses
is on Sunday, believe it or not. And then in
a graduation what is it Wednesday or Thursday? Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Today's Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No? Next next week is it Wednesday or Thursday?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Graduation Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think the twenty first get confused between the bac
laureate mass and in graduation, which are two separate events.
I know I have to be at my son's men's
chorus concert tonight at seven. Beyond that, I have no idea,
and I got to somehow, somehow cut my grass in
between all these stories.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I know you've probably talked to Scotty p What
is uh, what's the court? What's tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't I don't know what they're saying believe about.
I don't know. Whatever it is, it's going to be awesome.
I'm sure, oh for sure, and I'm kind of glad.
I don't know. Be a surprise. I don't know. It
probably won't be a million dreams we've got of We've
done that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But a big weekend this weekend, Barrett. I mean, you
have Jordan Marshall's camp on Saturday. I know you're going
to talk about that. Uh. We have the Jerry Faust
Hall of Fame induction ceremony on Sunday, A big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is there another Hall of Fame in the country that
rivals molar from at a high school level? No, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I put it up against collegiates a lot of the
colleges with this, with the athletes that we've had go
through this building, it is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But because it's so good, it does come with a
little couple headaches.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Do you ever get.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Text messages as the alumni director saying, you really are
missing the boat on this. There's a guy, and it
always is that guy's best friend, of course, or one
of his good friends, which makes sense, right, they played
with him whatever. But inevitably, as soon as it's an ouns,
as soon as it's an ass, you guys messed up.
You should have had this guy. What about this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
What about this guy?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Not at him? I always say that's true, that's true
because half the time did you nominate him? No, Well,
then he's not going to be in the mix. It's
thirteen thousand men of Molar come here. And I've said
this since Abner Double Day. I've said this, if there's
thirteen thousand alumni, give or take, I'm convinced that Molar
(02:57):
alumni firmly believe at one point in time they think
twelve and twenty should be Hall of famers. Yeah, and
they might not be wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's pretty heavy, you know, talking to these guys that
are going in and you know when you when you say, hey,
you know, here's who's in it, and they finally realize that,
and then you are forever going to be part of
this when you're long gone, that's pretty heavy, man. I
mean it really is, with the names that are in
(03:29):
this Hall of Fame right now, and it adds six
more to that list on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think I told you, but I'll tell everybody else.
You know, and working with Sam Hubbard over the years,
you know, Sam gets dinged by everybody, I mean everybody
right and their brother. And it's been very transactional with
him and my communications over the last hour of many years,
six seven years. But yesterday he texted me and it
(03:56):
was a different feel. It was it was a different
It was like, you know, Bird, I can't wait. We've
always been Hey, we got this interview, can we do
can we do this? Can we do this autograph signing?
He said, I can't wait for Sunday. I'm really excited,
which is it was abnormal. It was like, but you
can tell. It's like he's embraces the importance to your point,
(04:18):
how heavy it is, Like how significant this is to
enter a Hall of Fame with not Joey Bega donut
name on the wall. These are big time names that
will live in immortality in the storied archives of storied
history of more or high school specially.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It is very humbling and you know, talking to talking
to all of them, I'm going to put the over
and under out of six guys going in, I'm going
to say probably all five, all six of them are
going to drop a teer. I mean, it is that
emotional when they get up there.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You do a great job that together. And it's a
little bit different now because it was Montgomery In and
now you had this idea, I like it of bringing
it back to campus.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Back to campus. It's it's our high school, and uh,
we should be proud of our high school and our spaces.
And you know, Montgomery In is still a big part
of it. They are you know, they are taking care
of our our food and they're our official sponsor of
the Hall of Fame. And we can't thank Tom Gregory
and Liz Winter, his right hand gal at Montgomery In,
(05:27):
for for still taking care of this signature event at Moler.
But we're going to bring everybody back to the high
school and just you know, that's what it's about. It's
about this place, these walls. You know that everybody's walked
through these walls, even the non graduates. You know, you
got coach Held going in and he's been here twenty
(05:48):
nine years. Craig Lindsay's going in as athletic train. He's
been hit him yesterday during the Coaches Show. And for
for a math guy that you usually is, is pretty good.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
He was.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, I put him on the spot, you got
him on the roops.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He was fumbling a little and I said, hey, cut,
he's got I said, I'm just trying to get you
prepped for Sunday, buddy, And I mean, this is just
me and him, you know, on the Coaches Show yesterday.
Now you got to stand up in front of about
one hundred and fifty people and uh and get through this. So,
you know, Craig Lindsay's been here thirty years, and it's
I know, just when we did the interviews with these guys,
(06:28):
the emotion that they had sitting in a chair. Carl Woods,
you know, seventy seven grad when you talk about you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't think. I
don't I don't think Carl Woods. Will, I don't I
do think. Craig Lindsay. Will Who are the other ones?
Sam Might?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sam might Well, Zach Log He's got some chu he
does well. Will we'll spill the bean Zachson, South Korea.
So we we had him record his acceptance speech and uh,
he did not shed a tear. I don't leave, but
his mom and dad might, right, Jen log will. But
it's just just neat, I mean, and it's part of
(07:09):
the you know, I add a little bit to it.
And one of the things I'll say about Carl Woods
being in that seventy seven class and being in that
golden age of Mollar football with Coach Faust. You talk
about it, you say it all the time about standing
on the shoulders of giants. This guy was a giant,
(07:32):
and the Molar football players that have come since those
are one of those giants that they're standing on the
shoulders of Carl Woods.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Lots of work goes into it, but this really kind
of just officially kicks off the entire summer, right because
this is the first of many things. You got the
golf outing, you got bourbon cigars and all those events, unions,
all these teachers, God love them, they're they're they're kind
(08:02):
of checking out. My wife's one of them, so I
make fun of me, and I think I'm allowed because
I'm married. One They're like, oh, this summer is almost
must be nice. We don't get that to do. Yeah,
we're hammering Wayne. In fact, we're getting ready to turn
it up until about the end of June. At the
end of the ship, we get like three weeks off there,
and then.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We're already playing for the fall. I got a meeting
tomorrow with the football team, the nineteen sixty five guys,
Jack Monahan. I'm meeting with him tomorrow, and that was
the first undefeated football team. So we're going to do
a little special special honor for them in the fall.
So we're already playing it next year, folks, So buckle up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's going to be a fun ride, rocking and rolling,
all right, Andy and I are going to step out
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along in the Big Bo Podcast, Andy Nagle, Big Bo
Barrett and our first guest on the show, excited to
bring on Carly Silverstein. Andy, this is cool that we're
bringing Carly on because it is actually here at Moehler
Wellness Week wellness obviously incorporating physical wellness, but also mental wellness.
(10:32):
And then you tie into the fact that Sacked the
Stigma is partnering up as well with Jordan Marshall this
weekend in the Jordan Marshall Football Camp. Andy, but mental
health is certainly a big deal. Now, Carly, we are
excited to have you join us. I'm excited because you
because you're a Michigan gal. You Let's tell everybody a
(10:53):
little bit about you before we bring you on. You
bring mental health experience to sack this stigma. We'll talk
about that program in a minute. You are serving as
their director of Philanthropy and Communication, engaging and work with
a number of different clients, including the Kansas City Chiefs.
I believe to help make positive strides in mental health space,
especially the stigma surrounding athletes seeking help. Carli graduated with
(11:18):
a master's in Social work from the University of Michigan,
Go Blue.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
She did her undergraded Georgia, but.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Her undergraded Georgia. That's how about that interesting spin there, progress,
Certified Performance Consultant, certification, certifications whatever. While attending Michigan, Carly
worked with the Michigan Football Recruiting Department and also bln
D Health for her clinical field placement. Prior to Michigan,
(11:46):
Carly attended the University of Chargia, where she received her
bachelor's in Psychology minor in Sports Management, Human Development and
Family Sciences. But she is She's also worked with the
Georgia football program as well, and they're with their recruiting department,
but she's never ever been on the Big Mo podcast. Carly,
Welcome to the Big Show.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
to be here. What an introduction about?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
How about that thank goodness for stack thesacdistigma dot com
website that kind of gets me in the new Andy.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Go ahead, Carly, real quick question before we start. Yeah,
obviously you are a you know, I know in your
your field that you're working in. But are you a
Michigan fan or are you a Georgia fan when it
comes to fall Saturday?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let me let me put it before you answer that.
We put a caveat we have. We have a gun
to your head and you have to put on one jersey. Jersey?
What jersey you're going to say the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Don't take the easy way out and say the Kansas
City Chiefs. You will really get people in Cincinnati upset
at you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
For all right, let's see how she Dan will see
this one. Let's see how she works, to see if
she's a magician. Go ahead, Carly, I.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Am both for sir everyone always, but I will answer
your question, but I'll get my background first. I am both.
I always laugh everyone's like, you're such a bandwagon. I'm like, well, no,
I actually have a degree from both, thank you, so
I can here for both. I grew up in Atlanta,
so my dad actually went to Michigan. My grandma, my aunt,
(13:15):
and my cousin all went to Michigan. So I did
grow up. I would always say, this is a cop
out answer, but I'm a Georgia football fan but a
Michigan basketball fan. But I will cheer for both in
all of the above. But I genuinely would say, I mean,
I grew up going to appens every single Saturday for
like my entire life, so I will always be a
dog at heart first if I had to absolutely choose one.
(13:38):
But I will always be a Michigan Overine basketball fan first.
So I think if georgea Michigan played in basketball, I
cheer for Michigan. I think if Georgia Michigan played in football,
I cheer for Georgia. So catch twenty two, I guess,
but I am both. I am both on record, I
am both, and I'm not a bandwagon. I did grow
up fan of both, and I do have agree from
(13:58):
degree from both. But it was funny because the first
year I was at Michigan. They played each other for
the first time in like fifty something years, and so
dramatic of me. But I literally walk into the stadium
and I like cried because I was like, I know
every single person on that field. I don't even know
what I'm supposed to do with myself. This is so weird.
I don't know what's the way why I was wearing
(14:19):
Michigan clothes because I worked their time, But and Mayor
and Ida had a Georgia item of clothing underneath. So
I have to balance it all out in some way.
Use reform, for I.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Think it's unfair that Andy posed that question to put
you in a bad spot. Was a great answer, That
was a great That was a good thing you sold me.
You are one of the co founders I believe of
Sacked the stigma, which is created in twenty twenty one
with the intention of and I love this destigmatizing mental
health struggles for everyone, certainly in the discipline of athletics,
(14:52):
and increasing access to mental health care among the current
and former student athlete population. Your goal is to raise
awareness of the issue, educate students on available and feasible resources,
and then ultimately increase access to mental health care opportunities
among the subset of university students. What is really cool
(15:14):
for me is you the work that you're doing, the
Lord's work. It is working because I I've been doing
this high school gig for a long time and when
I started, mental health was a little taboo. You didn't
talk about it. Nobody, nobody, you know, was open about it.
Now it's a it's a I don't want to say,
a common thing that is brought up, but it is okay.
(15:36):
It's a safe topic now to talk about mental health.
And so kudos to you sacked the stigma. Who is
a part of this Jordan Marshall camp on Saturday. I
think what you guys are doing is the Lord's work
and it's a it's much needed, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Thank you. I appreciate that we do, I mean to
do dives and kind of the why behind it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Sure, yeah, absolutely, Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I appreciate you saying that, and I think it's one
thing to break the stigma, but it's another thing to
like actually have people listen to it. So, I mean,
we can only do so much. But I think really
the reason that any conversations are being had, it's because
of coaches like y'all and other coaches that are actually
willing to open up and let their kids talk to
them and let their students athletes talk to them. Because again,
(16:21):
like I said, one thing to talk for us as
I'm a therapist, so it's easy for me to be like, yeah,
it's important, but that only goes so far if nobody
else comes along with it. So thank you all obviously
too for representing this and having along this week and
talking about mental health as a part of that. But
what having said too talks to stigma, really tries to
(16:42):
break down those barriers in sort of creative ways. So
our goal is really to create conversations, and so that
can look like a bunch of different things. So we've
done merchandise campaigns, we've done some video campaigns, we've done
specific posts, et cetera, et cetera, but we really try
to do it till we start conversations, right, So we
did a nine eight eight campaign that was one of
our first campaigns, which was raising awareness for the suicide bipline,
(17:07):
and we had a conversation and we did a video
that went along with it, and then we did a
playbook campaign. So what's in your mental health playbook? What
are your coping skills? What are your tools? What are
your red flags? What are the things that you need
to notice when you need to access your playbook or
when your teammate needs to access fair playbook, or even
when you need to go actually seek help. What does
that line and what does that look like? And so
(17:28):
it was cool because we actually had a student athlete
talking to us about wearing the shirt, and basically he said,
whenever I wear the shirt, it's so supported because somebody
cares enough to make it and somebody cared enough by it.
And so it helped me get through one of my
really rough times because I just wore the shirt of
comfort to get me the courage to eventually open up.
And then I was at that was at Michigan, and
(17:49):
I was at a Georgia game wearing a nine eight
eight sticker one time and had a professor come up
to me actually and he was like, oh, what's nine
eight eight? And it was a stock a Stigma nine
eight eight sticker and can you guys signed what it was?
So I side my friend and he was like, Wow,
I didn't even know that existed. I'm going to put
that on all of my lecture scribes from here on out.
So my one interaction with one person, because one item
(18:10):
of clothing that I was wearing now hopefully impactage three
hundred plus kids in lecture halls every semester from here
on out. So that was a relatile moment of just
wearing one thing. And I almost never wear my sec
with Sigma stuff and don't get questions or asked or
whatever it is. And then I get to go on
my little spiel and yap about how important this is,
which is so fun.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, Colin, and you.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Know what you're talking about is you're talking about just
talking and just simply talking. I remember I was before
I got into this career. I was a hostage negotiator
with the SWAT team for Hamilton County and I went
through some FBI classes in Columbus, Ohio, and the talk
of mental health came up, and specifically suicide. And I
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remember one of the instructors telling us it is okay
to ask somebody because there's a fear like have you
had suicidal thoughts? And it's taboo and the fear of
a lot of people is and this is specifically directed
towards suicide but the fear of you know, if I
ask them that, then it's going to introduce the idea
(19:15):
to them that that's a possible an out for and
it's completely false. Like so, but by saying that, have
you had bad thoughts? Have you? Have you not been
in a stay? You're not gonna enter. They're not going
to say, well, wow, you know what, never thought about that?
That's an option for me. But to call it out,
to hit it where it is, to be open about it,
to talk about it, to get the to get people talking.
(19:37):
To what your point is nine eight eight whatever. To
get people talking is therapeutic. And you've done this for
a profession. That's what people need to do. They need
to talk about their feelings, talk about where they are
because the reality is, at some point in our lives,
all of us have a degree of mental health that
we have to work through. Correct.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Every single person has been I'll have a mental illness.
We all have mental health. And you would be surprised
by how many times that I've had conversations with people
that I will be directed and say something specific, whether
it's about suicide or even like yeah, let's name those emotions,
and they're like wow, that was relieving to just fail out,
like it's almost like, okay, it's relieving to get it
off my chest. It's relieving to have this conversation because
(20:20):
when you bobble it up, it eventually comes out in
one way or another.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And there's no worse feeling Carly and I than feeling
like you are on an island by yourself. That is
a terrible feeling. The weight that that puts on somebody
into as you said, identify, we called it emotional labeling.
To be able to identify and emotion identify the way
somebody feeling that that's very freeing for somebody who's burdened
(20:47):
down by what some people might not consider a big deal.
It is a big deal. And that's to be on
an island by yourself to sort of open up is
so powerful, right.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent, it really is. And I,
like you said, it's powerful. And I always say vulnerability
saves lives, whether it's you being vulnerable saves your own
life or vulnerability can save somebody else's life. You really
are never alone. I think time and come again. The
more work I do with I feel is you really
realize that no one is truly by themselves and any
of the feelings that they're feeling. And I will be
(21:19):
the first to say, like you, I will never exactly
know everything that you're going through. That is, every person
is experiencing life in their own way, so I will
never fully understand every single feeling and thing that you have. However,
I will always listen.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And that's empathy. I mean, that's a definition of empathy exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
So I think that that's taking that approach to anyone
you have a conversation with and also being open minded.
Its role versus two is like, Okay, dim, I not
exactly know what I'm going through, but at least they're
there for me and they're willing to listen, and I
know that I'm not alone and feeling the things that
I'm feeling, because that is truly over and over again,
I've been the release and they like I know that
I'm not alone and continuing to break down that sigma.
(22:00):
And that's why a lot of the stuff that we do.
I think I told you this the other day, but
we were talking about one thing that I want to
have the stigma to be doing is we have an
action item with everything that we do, So like Jordan
will have a work keep that he's handing out for
the kids at his camp to go home and do
with their parents and have a conversation about mental health.
Their workheaps with all of our campaigns. Our campaigns are
(22:21):
representing a specific either specific cause or specific raising money
to help people with mental health or for a specific
like resource of some sort. The partners that we all
do people that can they can talk with or communicate
with or whatever it may be. And so I think
that the more people that do this work the better
because the more time, the more we can break down
(22:43):
that stigma. That's important, and then I think the action
items that we add to it can be really beneficial.
And that's I think really a passion of mine is
to make sure, Okay, now we've we've broken the sigma,
Now what do we do about it? And so Jordan
doing this camp is a perfect example of that, which
I think is cool. And you guys doing this podcast,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, Carly, I think I was at the University of
Cincinnati with their baseball program from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three and just raising the awareness and having conversations
these student athletes, especially and I'm not this is for everybody.
This is all inclusive. But you know, obviously your organization
(23:23):
focuses onto student athletes. And I've had many conversations with
our baseball guys when I was there, you know, those
behind the door, cry on the shoulder type deal. There's
so much pressure that these student athletes go through, not
only on the field, but off the field. And now
you throw in the nil and you have all the
(23:45):
friends and the parents and the families chirping in their ear.
You need to do this, you need to do this,
you need to do this. Oh, by the way, I
got a pay per due and we're competing for a
big twelve championship and this, that and the other thing.
And you know, it's great that there is an outlet
for these guys and with us. And I don't know
if I've been removed for two years, so I don't know.
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Like sometimes it was, you know, our our trainers, our
athletic trainers would say, hey, if you have a problem,
you can come to us. We will get you help,
and we will not even you know, we won't tell
your coaches or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Eh.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I would rather have the coaches in on that. I know,
sometimes the anonymous the player just kind of wants to
doesn't want the coach to know because he he wants
to stay in the lineup type deal. But man, there's
just so much and the more we can have these
high profile programs and players like Jordan coming down from
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Michigan and when regular you know, when these younger kids
see that at Jordan Marshall, who you know, is a
standout athlete at Molor High School and a standout athlete
at at the University of Michigan. When Jordan Marshall says
it's okay to ask for help, I mean that has
hit huge weight with the rest of society and the
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rest of these people that man, it's okay if Jordan
Marshall has issues, and yeah, I need to talk about
this just to get through my daily life.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, I mean I was telling Jordan this day, it's
funny I helped recruit him and now he's on the team,
and it's just always the full circle moment. It's always
like I feel like a prop mom. But he is
incredible and I think we were talking to him about
this the other day of I think all these kids
expect athletes to be the superheroes and to not have
emotions and to not feel anything. And in reality, I
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tell the kids I work with a lot of the time,
I'm like, none of us would have a job if
all of these college athletes and professional athletes and adults
and people didn't have feelings like this is why it's important.
And so I think that him doing that, I was
telling him how important that is and how special it is.
It's not something that is taken for granted. And I
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think he doesn't even know how many lives google impact
by having this conversation, because exactly like you said, people
look up to him, and they don't look up to
him because he's perfect. They look up to him because
they think he is. And so him they're gonna look
up to him whether or not he's quote unquote perfect,
but they just perceive him in a certain way. And
so him being real, him being vulnerable, the vulnerability saves
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lives like him having those conversations and telling these kids, like,
you know what, it's okay for you to help. It's
also okay for you to feel a lot of emotions.
You're gonna you're gonna have ups and down. So that
emotional roller coaster campaign we're doing right now. You're gonna
have life that pulls you in a million different directions.
It's okay to get help, it's okay to talk about it,
and it's okay to rely on the people around you
because I've been there, so you also are not alone.
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And I think that that is going to, especially for
the older kids, be really eye opening. He's like, Wow,
he's been in the shoes that I have been. Okay,
maybe I can get help. This is what he did, Carl,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
This is awesome. I mean, for folks that want to
check it out, it's Sackthstigma dot com. They have a
phenomenal website if you navigate to the website, they also
have an emotional roller coaster campaign, a mental health playbook,
some stories on there as well. I would like I
would look good in one of those Blake Korum Sacked
(27:14):
the Stigma Michigan sweatshirts. Make that happen to Carly so
I can spread the message of Sack the Stigma here
at Big mo I'm extremely proud of what you do
with the organization. I'm really excited that Moeller, in some
small way, can play a role in spreading that message.
Out of mental health and excited to have you guys
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represent it here at the Jordan Marshall Camp Saturday, eleven
am to one pm here on the campus a big mill.
I saw Jordan did a video which I understand was
the most viewed video that you guys have put out
with Jay, and that certainly doesn't surprise Andy or I.
That's just who he is and fortunately hopefully we'll have
three more years with him up in Michigan and continue
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to spread that message. And kudos to everything you guys
are doing. It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Thank you, and thank you so much for having me.
It's been so much fun talking with you guys. And
if there's anything I can ever do to help you
all out or help out your school, I'm sure all
three of us Quoth founders would be more than happy
to help you out anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Outstanding Carly, Carly, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Thanks Carly, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's Carly Silverstein with the the Sack of the Stigma
here at Molar High School in the Big MO podcast
and cool stuff. Andy very good.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, and you know I want to give a quick
shout out to to Alison Oakley here at Molar for sure,
who does who handles our wellness in our mental health
programs and our guidance counsel in our guidance office. But
Allison kind of champions that that what mental health and
wellness here at Molar. So we got to give Alison
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a shout out as well.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Absolutely, absolutely good stuff happening here on the campus at
Big Mo. It is the forefront, especially during this wellness Week,
of everything that has happened with our young men here
on the campus at Big mol. Andy. We've got a
big show coming up at Jason Kneehouse. The El Presidente
will be making an appearance on the b MP and
more when we come back on the best coverage of
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We'll see you on the campus of Big Mill A
big little podcast, and it's my pleasure to have the
president of Moeller High School, Jason Nienhouse, in the studio.
(30:19):
And Jason, we got to know each other pretty well.
You took a trip to Denver before we start talking
about some of the things coming up. That was a
fun trip though, and it was you did Columbus obviously,
which is very special to go up to Columbus your
first regional trip, and then to Denver. I've said it
before and I think you would agree. There's there's something
that fills the tank when you go to those places
(30:39):
and hear the passion they have for Moller High School.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Well, barret to write about that.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
And there's one other regional trip I didn't make, and
that was down to down of Florida. First, let's confflicted
with the Big East tournament that I had to be
fair for you.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That was that was planned well before the regional trip
to Florida was playing. It wasn't like we could go
to the big eat.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
That tradition, correct.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
But I just deal to those alums down in out
down in Florida when you saw the posts that were
going on, both in Columbus and in Denver.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I have no fear.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I am coming to Florida next year and looking forward
to being with you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But you're right, it won't be the tournament weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
No, it won't.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
We'll we'll we'll plan plan right right, But it is.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
It is remarkable to be in the regions and interacting
with with alums both Columbus and in Denver, to go
out and to share what is happening here at Molre,
but more importantly, to absorb the molar stories from each
of our individual alums. What connects them back to the
school is what we get to bring back and share
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with our students and to connect the great things that
our alums are doing out there, bringing their experiences back
to our students and kind of giving them that experiential
and authentic learning that is so important in regards to
our real learning philosophy.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It is you know, it is. It is a lot
of time.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
And as you well know, we we battle altitude.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know, we won't tell that tell that story. That's
kind of funny because you're ten times that I am
and you had to tap.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Out man went went down.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
So uh, you know, these these alumni trips, we do
put a lot of work into them and and great
sacrifices and bear it to you and to Mary and
to Brother Ron, to to Andy Nagel who make these trips.
You know, there are sacrifices that come along with this,
and individuals may view this as is, you know, all
all fun because of what we get to do in post.
(32:41):
But boy, you know, we we met here at Moller
High School at three am, you know for a five
thirty am flight, get out to Denver, Charlotte, to Charlotte,
then over to Denver, Land and Denver, get our rental
car drive down to Colorado Springs for the Air Force
Academy tour, which was absolutely magnificent. But we're already working
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on fumes as far as sleep is concerned. Then you
compound that with the amount of walking that we did.
I don't remember how many steps you said, we did.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So I take that seven point eight miles walk so
so exhausting one day one one day day altitude.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Not being cognizant of the fact that we needed to hydrate.
We go and we we meet several other alums for
a dinner.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I'm starting to feel it, you know what, I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Just after the seven point eight walk, I'm beginning to
feel it. And I could tell there was you started, Peter,
and now a little bit. I'm like, not good, Marty,
not good.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
How we look we look at it?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Not good?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
You know it was he started to start to get
the sweats going on. And we're sitting on a high
top barstool, and you know, and so we do order
and I'm maybe two French fries end things and little
food's going to help.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
No, not not.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Going in fact that your me was even delivered yet. No,
it did, it did it delivered?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was delivered.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
I had two fries and I said, you know, guys,
I need to go out and get some fresh air.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I did, I did.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
But I tell you what, Jason Williams was awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He was he was like, man, not everybody can handle
the the air pressure.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I am.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
I am one of them that that to do a
little little pre work there and preparing for that. But
nonetheless it was an extraordinary trip. You know, we had
the opportunity to Air Force Academy, we had the opportunity
to go to Liberty Commons School. You know Bob Schaeffer
and the work that he's doing out there is just,
(34:43):
you know, you unbelievable. You know when you say how
far as as Molar's reach.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You know, Bob Schaeffer an alum of Molar.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Uh, you know, headmaster the school out there, and you
see elements you know of our house system there in
you know, in Denver, as well as the intentionality around
your mission and values. The extraordinary things that he's doing
with this yes, walking down the hallways and students making
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eye contact and the confidence of those young men and
women because it's a co ed school, you know. But
I will tell you above all things that we saw
at Liberty Commons, it was the truck. And so we're
not going to go into details about that because we're
not going to put any ideas and would not know
that Denali would not look good.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Correct. I think it looked great, Actually maybe not your estates.
I think it would look good. I like, when I
asked you, I said, are you going to do that
to your truck? You said, yeah, I'll do it to
my truck. I'm just not going to take it off.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Can Well, I said, I would have go and and
find a five hundred dollars truck.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That I can I can't find anymore. And when is
that going to happen? So it is fun, I mean,
and then you hear in What's what makes me excited
is then you hear that three of the guys at
maybe four in Denver are coming back this June for
Bourbon cigar and their reunions and stuff. So it's special.
And I wish I could and I've said this a
(36:13):
million times. You've heard me say that you you could
bottle that emotion and bring it back here to our
faculty and staff, which were trying to do it right now.
But let the faculty and staff just feel that just
a portion of that, and boy, it's invigorating, it really is.
Christine doctor brook Bank was able to for the first
time experience in Florida. She went in your place to Florida.
(36:34):
She came back saying the same thing, and it's it's
it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
And and you know, this past week, I had the
opportunity of doing pizza with the present with our seniors,
and I was talking about the power of the Molar network,
you know, the the Molar Alumni Association, which brings to
you know, the events that we do have coming up.
I told these young men, you know, come back, just
go get involved and engaged in the various events that
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we have here at Molar. Whether it's sporting events or
whether it's bourbon and cigars, whether it's the sports tag,
whether it's the golf ounting. These are opportunities for our
young men to connect and to build relationships with individuals
who are out there doing remarkable things in the community,
business owners, business leaders. And so if you want a
pathway to you know, to your future, whether it be
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internship or future job, you know, lean on us back here.
Get engaged because the power of the Molear network truly
is something that is amazing. And we saw that out
in Denver as well too. We're going to lean in
on some of that and bring it back into the classroom.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And but you said something that's key because the Molar network,
it's what attracted me to Molar High School. It's powerful,
extremely powerful, but it's only as powerful as those who
leverage it. Right the phrase you can bring a horse
to water, you can't make them drink. There is a network,
there's a power here and it's and I like how
you told these guys engage it, leverage it, because if
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you do, when a man of Molar meets a man
of Molar, whether it's nineteen sixty four or twenty twenty five,
there's a natural connection, you know, the kind of guy
you're getting. The other thing I liked that you said
to them, which was really cool, showed your humility. Is
when you said thank you, thank you for welcoming me,
whether it was a handshake, whether it was just eye contact,
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whatever it was. And that humility I think goes such
a long.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Way with these guys all well, and that's very that
is very genuine.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
You know, Barrett, I will be forever endeared to the
class of twenty twenty five. You know, this was the
year in which I came back home to Molar, and
as I said to each of them, whether you directly indirectly,
whether you knowingly or unknowingly, you know, sent a signal
to the rest of the school that you know that
I was, you know, one of you, and it's just
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eye contact, handshake, good morning, mister Niehouse, whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Those little things or not little, they armed.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
They are not.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
And so the power of just small connections, right, And
I think that again, and when you talk, when you
when you compound that over across the entire Molar network,
just small brief connections build you know, momentum to extraordinary things.
And that's really, you know what I have the ability
to do what I'm you know, so thankful for in
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this role is just making connections. We all share a
common purpose and a common passion, and now it's about
putting it all together to go out and do even
more remarkable things here at this institution and all of
our students in a lum which this school represents.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Lots of opportunities for fans out there too, in alumni
and the Mular family to meet Jason Neehouse. He will
be at every I think, every one of our events.
Of course, we got we got the Hall of Fame
coming up shortly, we got the bourbon cigars, we got
the golf outing. I have not seen Jason's golf swing yet,
so I cannot confirm nor deny his ability or in
(40:00):
ability to hit a golf ball. But we will soon
find out. Because I think I think you got what
you got on. You got the Jordan Marshall Camp. Are
you going to be there Saturday?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
You know, Jordan Marshall is coming in. The Jordan Marshall
Camp is going to be on that set on Saturday,
and I will stop by. I will tell you something, Barrett.
You know what I had the opportunity to watch Jordan
play and what an extraordinary athlete Jordan is. So just
alone to have, you know, the opportunity for Jordan to
(40:30):
work with you know, young men at his camp, uh
is you know, is a you know, an opportunity that
is very unique. However, you know, and just the brief
amount of time that I've had to interact with Jordan,
what is even more powerful about Jordan is who he
is as a person. And so when you have those
two components, when you're trying to really develop the talent
(40:53):
that you have as an athlete, but then you can
compliment that with the exclamation point of who you are
as a part person. I mean to me, that's really
what you know, what why I want to come you
know on Saturday and interact with with him a bit
is to see what type of person he is touching
the lives of young men who were wanting to emulate
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what he's doing, not only as an athlete but as
a person.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah. And a big and a big shout out to
Lance McAllister on seven hundred w l W last night,
who gave some props in promo to Jordan and his
camp on Saturday, eleven o'clock to one o'clock on Saturday.
My question to you, he's got some big thighs Mono
Imano squats you versus j Marsh Who can put who
can throw some more weight around?
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Well, it's a quite are we doing it for? Are
we doing how many reps? One or multiples?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
What works against your favorite?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Multiples? Multiples?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
All right, we're gonna go multiples in. But he's got
he's got some big thighs. Man. I saw a video
of him that we produced when he was a freshman.
Just yesterday, any Nagel and I were looking at I
was going through preparing videos for the Hall of Fame.
We got a bunch of them we're putting together. Saw
one when he was a freshman to see what he
looks like now, night and day. It's it's unbelievable. I'd
love to see the maturation process, not just of our
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student athletes, but of our our young men in the
classroom and how they evolve over four years, not just
from a physical standpoint, but just maturity that it's it's
the best I've always said this, it's the best part
of my job, and I'm sure yours is seeing that
transformation over four years.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
And being involved in the various classroom kind of experiential components,
whether it's the student run endowment, whether it's the entrepreneurial
class who are doing pitches on on startups.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
You know, to see what these.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Young men are doing is again you talk about an
overused term, you know, on this particular broadcast, it's remarkable,
and there's just no other term to describe it. I'm
gonna have to get out my you know, my bizarros
and and start to to begin to utilize some other
words to describe what it is that that we're seeing here.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
But but you're you know, you're right.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I'm looking forward to the extraordinary opportunities that we have
over the course of the coming weeks. It's you know,
it's the Jordan Marshall camp here coming up this Saturday.
Bourbons and Cigars that's on June sixth or seventh, June.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Twenty first, I thought I could keep talking.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
And also, so we've got bourbon and cigars that that's
coming up. We have the the golf outing that's coming up,
and then of course as we you know, as we're
going into you know, the late summer in early fall,
we will have the the sports Stag with Hey, how
about the right is that is that final week in June.
(43:47):
So so I'm really looking forward to right before I.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Head to Disney. Disney huh hold your I was gonna
I was waiting for your goofy comment. But yeah, I
had got the golf outing and on Friday, and we
drive down to Disney on Saturday. So it's gonna be
a fun weekend for me for sure.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Disney's always is always a great time. And my daughter
and I we were talking a little bit about that
last night.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
So you just got to save up like twenty five
years of you know, money, just to afford to go
down there. It's unbelievable, Jason. The honeymoon's over you figuratively
and literally, I see you often roll your sleeves up.
The honeymoon's over. You're getting down to work now, aren't you.
We are.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Yeah, and it's really have a great level of confidence
in the leadership team that we have here in the
faculty and staff that we have here at Moller, which
is really now allowing me to shift my focus and
attention on you know, the strategy you know on And not.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
To interrupt you, but I just did. Sorry to talk
while you're interrupting. Guess what Tom Gregory always says, But
now you have a summer now the kind of Okay,
I got my first got my appetite you or whatever
you want to call it, got my first taste of it.
Now I can kind of step back now and let's
let's get together at the beginning of the summer and
really formulate a plan to what it's going to take
to get Molar to that next level.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Yeah, and and you're right, it will have you know,
three months. And so during spring break I had the
moment to just come up for air for that brief
period of time to refocus.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Which.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
He was not whack a mole.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
He was in he was He did not balk me
on the on the head there. But you know it
allowed for me just to take a step back and
take a look at how we were going to structure
you know, uh meetings that would really begin to drive
you know, the work. And so now June, end of May,
in the beginning of June is when we.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
Will really again figure to figureatively and literally roll up
the sleeves and define what the work is going to
be here to move us to that next you know,
that next.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Level of excellence.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
You know, excellence is always the standard, and we're achieving
excellence here, but we have to raise the bar. One
of our alums, who I have the opportunity of working with,
Mark Clement, who happens to also be a board member,
uses a quote by.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Steve Jobs, I believe it is it said it.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
You know, if the pace of change on the outside
exceeds the pace of change on the inside, the end
is near, right, and so we have to constantly move
towards that next level of excellent.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Staying in place is falling behind, right. And so that's.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Really where we are in lockstep. We have a leadership
team that is ambitious and really sees, you know, the
next peak that we're going to be climbing to and
I'm just thrilled to be a part of it. I
couldn't be more excited, not only internally with the individuals
that we have to work with, but the entire Mole
Or family that is united around making this school the
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best high school in the country.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I have a quote, plan your work and work you're playing,
and that's kind of what you're talking about. He is
the president. We got to get some presidentialer of the
of Molar High School. Jason Neehouse class of ninety three
the best class in Molar history.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Right, that is correct? Without question.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's funny whoever has the headsets on that class is
the best class in Molar history.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
And I have nobody here to refuse.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Correct correct nobody. Executive producer Joe Strecker is in ninety
three grand as well, so we're all ninety three. Second,
Do I.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Hear any any any opposition?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Eric?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It is ninety three? He's president. Jason me House. Big
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Wrapping up another BMP Andy, another good show. The energy
that Jason has is exciting. He just you could tell though,
and I said it. You know in the interview you
were not in here, you were in the green room.
But you've seen him figuratively and literally roll up his
sleeves like he's the honeymoon's over. It's time to get
(49:26):
to work.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
He we had you actually did that interview. We had
an advancement alumni meeting and you kind of we circled
back and you and I met with a Notre Dame
Academy director of advancement after that meeting, but we met
with several schools and Jason kind of welcomed those schools.
We had about twenty people in there. I don't know
(49:48):
how many schools represented, maybe a dozen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
He was awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
I mean, he thanked everybody.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Elder here, elders out here. Did sate X no show.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
St X was a no show. Roger Bacon was here.
Notre Dame Academy, UH, Covington Latin, Mercy McCauley, they were here.
Mercy McCauley, UH, the Archdiocese were here. So we got
an update on Archbishop Casey and Pope Leo and was
not here. He was not here, but just talking about
(50:20):
both of those.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
I guess you think we can get Pope Leo on
the Big MO podcast.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
I guess the the joke down at the AOC is
you have a Chicago and that's in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati.
Now you got a Chicago and that's in the uh
in the big seat in Rome was the Chicago mob
and replacement of these high ranking officials.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Did you see don't email me people, that is a joke.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Did you hear there? See the White Sox and Cubs
start to have an argument on hell yeah, who he
cheered for the Cubs? Originally I could be wrong. Wrigley
Field put we finally got our guy, or welcome, he's
one of us or something like that in the Cubs
billboard or on their out that marquee on the outside,
(51:06):
that famous marquee in the White Sox put that he's
a he's a White Sox fan. And they're going back
and forth on social media. I mean, it was free,
free entertainment.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
And there's videos of him at the five Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
World Series, followed by an interview with his brother who
confirmed after they went back and forth, that he indeed
was a White Sox fan. And now all these Cubs
fan have to e crow. And I don't like the Cubs.
I don't like their fans. So I thought it was great.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I think it's so cool and I'm sure when other
popes were were elected, you know, years ago, their native
countries probably did the same thing. But I'm fascinated and
following all these stories. I mean, he had mass in
the Saint Peter Chapel, uh in the in the in
the catacombs of the Vatican the other day, and just
(51:57):
watching that video and then it pans over and there's
a brother. You know, you have all these priests and
all the vestments, and there's his brother in a plaid
shirt and he's one of us, and he's down there,
and I'm sure he called him Bob or Rob after
the after the but it's like, this is so cool, man,
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Its awesome cool. Never in the in our lifetime did
I think we'd see an American pope.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
No, it's it's neat.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So it's not outside the realm of even remote possibility
that we get the pope sitting right next to you
and me on the Big Mo podcast. Don't don't doubt me,
Eddie Dangel, don't doubt me.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
You got a mission, a mission.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Let's get Archbishop Casey first.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
We'll get him first. Let's get him, We'll get him first.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
He looks like a good dude to that. That guy
always smiling man, always smiling.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And he's engaging with the students. He likes to talk
to him before the mass after mass. I love it.
I think it's it's what it's what the church needs,
you know. It's just a simple what a simple And
we talked about it on the show. A simple smile
and a laugh. It was a long way.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
There's a here's a good story real quick. The archdiocese
the rapid It was David I can't remember his name,
that was at our meeting yes at our meeting yesterday,
the archbishop had a mass because they're doing these memorial
masses for Pope Francis, and they had one up in
Dayton and I can't remember which parish.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
It was.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
A very Hispanic parish. Archbishop Casey went up there, had
a vigil mass for Pope Francis, did the whole mass
in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
How cool is that? That's really cool?
Speaker 3 (53:35):
And David's it's never happened before, never happened before. And
he stayed for an hour and a half after Mass
and greeted every person that was there that waited for
him to say hi and shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
That's cool. He gets it. He gets it, and that's
what we need.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
That's what we need. We need engagement to bring people
back to did you see Fatim of the other eard
two hundred and fifty thousand people celebrating at Fatima.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
People say the Catholic Church is dead. It is not.
It is certainly not. So it's good stuff, very good stuff. Andy,
do you have any questions for me? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Saturday?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Got a busy day. We do a busy day. We
got the Now you're setting up for the while the
Jordan Marshall camp's going on. You'll set up.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
You'll be on the backfield, mister Gregory, uh, keeping an
eye on the Jordan Marshall camp. It's great that that
bigs giving back.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, and big thanks to Tommy who is providing the
I mean, these kids are coming in for a camp.
They have no idea. They're to begin mucumbery in about
about pad. That's not bad, Martin.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
That's the and I will be setting up the uh,
the commons and uh as that camp's going on, and
then it's it's go time on Sunday. It'll be a
good day, good weekend.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
That's Andy Nagle. Another rendition to the b MP. You're
on the best coverage of Muller High School, the elite coverage.
It's w f o E and the Mollar Broadcasting Network.
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