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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Today, We've got a lot of friends. This might be
one of the bigger podcast episodes we've had in terms
of individual people that are on the podcast. Today, We've
got our friends, Ryan, Tim, David, and Kaylee, just a
whole crew. And I feel like it's maybe at least
worth mentioning that these are all friends mostly through furnace Fest, right, Like, Kaylee,
(00:54):
you and I are friends outside of furnace Fest, But
I think the rest of you all, I for both
Colin and I think we both only know each other
from furnace Fest, right am, I Me and Ryan were friends.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But that's that's yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, through a mutual friends.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I I listened to your Theology podcast, Mason when I
was more of a Christian and then we also have
a mutual I r L friends.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's right, Yeah, I will say. But my Theology podcast
is really a great podcast for those that actually want
to leave Christianity.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
It works, it works, a great job, it's a great
it's it's a good, great doorway for those just on
their way out.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Already doing my best, doing my best. Well, this episode
actually funny enough, even though this is these are a
lot of furnace Fest friends. We're actually not going to
talk about furnace fest at all unless for some reason antadotically,
if that's how you pronounce it, unless that comes up.
(01:58):
So Colin, do you want to give a little bit
of an introduction to what we're going to do today?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah? Do we want to introduce everybody first? Do you
want them to introduce themselves?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I suppose we probably should let everybody introduce themselves.
So Ryan, you're the very first person on my screen,
So say Hi Ryan.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Hey, Hi Ryan. It's a homelone joke.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Tell us, tell us who you are, what's your about?
What's your background there? Ryan?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I grew up pretty close to y'all in Oldham, South Dakota,
on a farm, not in Oldham.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But I thought Oldham was just a farm.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, pretty much people. There's not much going on out there.
So I do have a knock to loose hoodie now
that's at Oldham on the front, even though it's not
the same old Ham. But still it's in Camo too,
so it's pretty appropriate for out there.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Nic This is perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
But yeah, I grew up listening a lot of CCM,
a lot of oldies of my parents, a lot of
Christian radio and got into this kind of stuff a
little bit more like I don't know what you gonna
call it, the tooth and nail scene through like some
Christian like video shows and like the early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
My favorite thing about is first time we met and
then the second time we met, it was literally just
can I stump Ryan with my music knowledge? And can
he stump me with his music knowledge? It was it
was it was the Cold War knockdown, Craig out. We
were having proxy wars even we were inviting all of
our friends to see if they could stump us. It
was a good time. Yeah, yeah, and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I do think if there's anybody who I don't, maybe
you guys all watch a show called Stump the Schwab.
It was like a sports radio game and it was
like you like, all these contestants competed against one guy
who just happened to know every fucking stat you could
have ever imagined. I feel like Ryan and I are like,
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who's going to compete to be the schwab for the Chariot?
And I'll be honest, right, I think I think you're
the schwab of the Chariot.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't know yeah, he's humble. He's humble, guys, all right.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Kayley, I'm Kaylee. I am Director of Communications and Digital
Outreach for the Center for Prophetic Imagination, which basically means
I'd make a whole lot of digital content. But music wise,
I grew up as like the rebellious Christian kid because
I listened to a thousand pit Crutch. If just just to.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Put you.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Give you like a sense of the conservativeness that I
grew up in, like other than me that the hardest
music that like a Christian person would listen to is
like super Tones or something. So like my my upbringing
was very very placid, I would say, but I did,
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like I discovered Under Oath and Demon Hunter, Dead Poetic.
It's still very yeah good bands eventually. Thus Crutches a
good band, it's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Speaking of thousand foot Crutch, I used to have a
running gig with a friend of mine who also grew
up in the tooth and nail world. Uh And this
friend also does, like does drake queen stuff, And we
were thinking one day of like what would be a
like drag queen names that like are tooth and nail inspired.
And now I'm just I'm just realizing now you could
do rock fisting, rock fist or cockfist. That would be
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so anyway. I'm just realizing that.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
David, Hello, I like intro a thousand foot cocky, Right.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I do that?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Somebody that's the first thing to ack knowledge about me.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I wish I did.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But I feel like the second I just got on
this like call, I was just like, they're just gonna
be expecting insane ship. I don't know what's gonna happen.
But I just confirmed the thought that I had right
off the bat. But uh, yeah, I am David Lawrence.
Colin in particular always likes to remind me that I've
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taken lots of nude photos of people.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, I'm just jealous, that's it.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, I'm a full time portrait photographer and music nerd
and just all around lover of humans and being alive.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'm like a big old golden retriever.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's a great description retriever.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, I should put that in my Tinder bio.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I got I got broken over the holidays. Would you say.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Dirt as well?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I should, I probably should be.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But what I was gonna what I was gonna say
us these are all great things like add to my
tender bio. So I'm really appreciative of this time and space.
Thank you guys, mi Lord bless you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's a workshop.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And last but not least, Tim, who are you in
the world?
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Oh gosh, what am I not in the world? So
I am Tim. I am a licensed professional counselor, and
so from a day to job I get to listen
to people talk all the time. So it's fun to
get to talk about stuff. I want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
What what what kind of like diagnoses? Would you give David
right now?
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I wouldn't I actually right now.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
When I was basically this is what people do all
the time, I'd say, I'm a counselor.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm like, oh, diagnose me.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I have paperwork right now. If you want to hear those,
let me shut you know, I have paperwork.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
When I was.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah, So when I was going through a divorce many
moons ago, I had a Christian therapist who brought up
that I might be on the autism spectrum because I
was just saying so much outland to shit and that
was really detrimental to my marriage at the time, which
is a whole other podcast. So I went and ate
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eight hundred dollars to go get a neurological test, and
they were like, you don't have autism, You're just insane.
And so what what I got back was general anxiety
disorder OCD ADHD.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And depression.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And they also said in one of the linear notes
that I showed small, small signs of narcissism. So I'm
very aware of all of my diagnoses. I have way
too many. This podcast is insane.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Everything but them, but not the tism.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't have the tism, and I have paperwork to
prove it.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Yeah, so that's my day, Joe. Sorry, that's okay. It
happens all the time. People know, they can talk when
I'm sitting here.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
So my music thing, so you know, grew up in
church youth group, and I think my like introduction, so
my introduction to like music, like the good music was
like I like hit the like Stephen Curtis Chapman trained
pretty hard as a kid, like man, fantastic are.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You down and in what did you get down in?
On Stephen concert?
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Indeed, oh, Carmen was my first concert. Oh yeah yeah
good third day but like we're third.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Day nice, which went.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
From him, was I think let me see what happened. Anyway.
My claim to fame. The thing that I love the most,
the people I got to see earliest in their career
was a reliant case show in the basement of forest
for Debt Methodist Church in Hurricane, West Virginia. That's spelled
Hurricane said Hurricane Hurricane West Virginia. Nobody knew who they were, like,
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they're like, I think this was before, maybe at right
after their first album came out, and it was just
it was amazing. It was so loud, couldn't hear a
word he was singing, but it was just great.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Marilyn Manson ate his girlfriend his girlfriend.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, so that song did not age well just.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean just saying he was one of the first
people to villainize Marilyn. He was actually a prophet in
our midst that.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Okay, yeah, but I don't know, having a song about
violence against women and then then it would be true,
So maybe I guess it did age very well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He was he was just speaking the truth.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, and then you know, from there, five Iron
was sort of my gateway into the bigger music world,
which is kind of funny to say, but yeah, that's
fun that's.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It, all right, all right, Well, so you're not here
to talk about Christian music though, right, not or not
necessarily Christian music.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Or or David's diagnoses.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Mental health diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
We are here to discuss perfect albums now. Mason and
I have this conversation all the time, and I've had
this conversation with a few other people as well. There's
a difference between your favorite albums and your perfect albums.
You know, you can, you can. You can look at
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a at any Beatles record, right. Beatles are probably my
favorite band of all time. But they don't have a
perfect record. They don't have they don't have one that's
really even close to a perfect record. So what makes
a perfect record? Perfect record is an album that, first
of all, is not one of your favorite albums. Second
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of all, it has to be all killer, no filler.
That means no interludes, That means no no like Chancey songs,
no no skits, no skits. Yeah, so like Outcast Love Below, right,
great album, but you get all these like weird like
little skits that are in between half the songs. So
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not really conducive to what we would consider a perfect album.
So all killer, no filler, high artistic quality, great lyrical content.
Not a single note is really even out of place
in the entire album. Generally it has to be five
years old longer or older. It has to be timeless.
So we're not referencing pagers or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We are.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We're talking about albums that keep it timeless in terms
of its content specifically. I mean, obviously, if you have
like eighty synth pop and that's like your jam, that's
perfectly fine, right, But if they start talking about their
you know, their eighty nine corvette in their blue collar
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job and greed is good, Well, now we got a problem.
It actually has to be an actual album. Can't be
a compilation, can't be a soundtrack, can't be a musical,
nothing of that sort. So no Wow two thousand and
four for us here, unfortunately, and then we exclude Hamilton,
like that would exclude Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Also, Man, if my students are so obsessed with Hamilton
right now, I can't. I don't like Hamilton. I love musicals,
but I don't like Hamilton. That's a side story. That's
another podcast, right, David. Also, I kind of thought of
like one like last stipulation. It's not like a hard
and fast thing. But it is something that I've found
to be true. This is typically one of your most
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listened to albums. It's one of those albums that you
have countless hours on. But when you think of those
albums when someone asks you, hey, what are your favorite albums,
it almost never comes to the surface first, even though
you have tons, tons and tons of time with it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right, So.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's kind of the basis of of our our our
perfect albums. It's a completely different distinction from your favorite albums.
So does anyone have any issues with those parameters?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, just the person that's telling me the parameters.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, you know what I'm going to say it I'm
not upset that you broke your elbow.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I gotta say I have no issues.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I mean, I got a lot of issues, but I
clearly have favor work whole list. But I have no
issues with what you said.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
But what I was going to say is I texted
Colon Colon and our whole group.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Chat this whole week just in a panic because I
just couldn't mess up this.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
As I meant, like, I couldn't tell you had anxiety
at all.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I was really struggling to define what a perfect
album meant and how it was different from my favorite albums.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
But Colin really like stepped up as a teacher. He
used his gifts to the Lord.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Has given him.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
He helped tired it all out and it was all good.
But I just wanted to say how much of a
struggle it was.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Like I was like I was listening hard to stuff
this week, like I was fucking nervous.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
David Fair, It's still hard. I don't know I figured
out yet.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I took one of them off the list as you
were talking, and I was just like, well, there goes one.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Haven't I have an honorable mentions list?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's okay, that's good. You should have a pretty good,
healthy list of an honorable mention. But I do want
to say in this place, we do hard things, okay,
and we can do hard things, and listening and being
anxious about this is is perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
David.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
We we just got to work through this, you know, amen, brother, Amen,
you're not You're.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Not on a raft alone. We will we will throw
you a lifeline. Let's do this thing, all right. So
here's the here's the order. Mason, Ryan, Tim, David Kaylee
and then myself. We're gonna try to get to three
total albums. So what we're gonna do is say the
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album first, and then basically we'll kind of discuss it all.
And uh, I don't want this to be like super
confrontational or anything. Mason usually likes to make them confrontational,
but this one, we're just friends hanging out, so.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
This isn't supposed to be a competitive one.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So I, yeah, it's not competitive, so oddly chill good.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, I'm not going to my feet. So I've got
some notes ahead of time to say a few things too,
so great.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Good deal. Yeah, and yeah, and then I was gonna say, say,
say a few things about about each album and why
you think it falls into the perfect album category. Mason,
You're up, Doug.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So I'm taking this assignment more so just because I,
you know, with Colin and I hosting this podcast, I
feel like I'm constantly talking about musicians and albums all
the time, and so if you're a longtime listener of
this podcast, you probably have a good sense of a
lot of the artists and albums that I'm really into.
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So I'm gonna try to take it in a little
bit different direction where I'm going to talk about, certainly
albums that I think are perfect albums through and through.
But I'm definitely going to talk about artists that I
don't think I really bring up very often on this podcast. Okay,
So these are artists or albums in particular that I
think most people would be like, wait, you listen to that,
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You listen to that artist, you listen to that album
like I'm, I'm. That's sort of the route that I'm taking.
So the first one, maybe genre wise, I don't think
most people would realize, like most people wouldn't be a
little surprised by. But they are certainly one of my
favorite bands of all time, and I just feel like
I don't really talk about them enough on this podcast,
and I don't know, I don't think I really talk
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about them enough generally. But the album came out in
twenty nineteen, so I think it might be one of
the more recent albums. But the album is called We
Already Lost the World by Birds in Row. This is
an album that came out in twenty nineteen, I think
probably around that time or maybe twenty twenty. Yeah, I
think it was twenty nineteen or actually, no, thinking about
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I think it came out in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So were they on the Chariot Farewell tour?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
They were, they.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Were very early on in their history. Yeah, yeah, they
were on that farewell tour.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
But yeah, if I saw I think I said that
hirld I to drive up from swo Balls that afternoon.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So yeah, they're French, right, Yeah, they're from France. Yeah,
And I think that's part of the reason why they
don't have as much of a following in the US.
I think they have a much bigger following in Europe,
but they are that album in particular, like I will,
I listen to that album for sure, at least once
a month for the last however many like seven years now.
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It's just truly one of my favorite album of all time.
I think it's an absolute perfect album. And uh yeah,
they just don't get enough credit. They had an album
that came out a couple of years ago that I
thought was really good, But this album in particular, I
just truly think from top to bottom is a perfect album,
even like the last song and you know, Colin, you
and I talked about this recently on an on an
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episode where the closer of an album seems to really
matter a lot to us, And this album has one
of the best closers I've ever heard. And so it's
just to me, like top to bottom, a perfect album.
It's got the right mix. To me, the way that
it sequenced, that each track is sequenced is just perfect.
So I just think it's a perfect album.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, I fully agree it's It's definitely one that has
great dynamics and it moves in directions that you don't
necessarily expect. And now I'm a huge fan good Pick Base.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I was named to my library already. I'll check it out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It is so good.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Ryan, you are up next?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Ma man, uh this is that? Hey? What's up? This
is one that I encountered on a thing called Tenmost Wanted.
I don't know if you guys watched that at all
or not back in the day. Oh, there's to be a.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Is this like the show that used to be on
like CBS And they're like, it has like pictures of
like terrorists and stuff like that, And they're like, is
that what you mean, America? No, for real, I'm asking
for real? Is that is that what you No?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No, it's not this. This is a Christian music video
show that was on. It was on Direct TV on
Saturday nights that we had, but I think it was
actually like a standalone's like satellite service for a while too.
It's called sky Angel. I don't know if you guys
have heard of that or not. I knew like one
person that I went to college with and had it
at their house. It was just like TBN and that
kind of crap. So but this album is a no
sir alum's not practical by show brand.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
He brought and he brought evidence. I love this.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He's got receipts I forget. That'd be fun. I got
the CD two I got back in the day. I
got a little story about that I'll tell in a
second or two. But uh yeah, so this is one
I encountered on tenmost wanted that was. There's an I
think called the Video Zone that this other guy that's
reference for about the Chariot. So that was a fun
time too. I saw the video for the company to
come for with the Grave. But let me put my
notes here. So yeah, this one's got some great cohesion.
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I don't think I thought about it to not that
long ago. But like the beginning of this album is
like kind of a telephone conversation and then like the
outro of the last song is like a dial tone
like going off hook, which is really cool, so sort
of like closes the loop, not exactly, kind of like
there's a couple alums where it's basically you put it
on shuffle or not shuffle, but you put it on
repeat and like the albums just to circle, I think
like one of the David Crowder albums is like the
I Recall. But so there's really a lot of really
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cool interstitials and like extended outros. There's like a chainsaw
noise before like dead by Dawn kind of like with
the whole evil dead motif on that song. So that's
a lot of fun. So there's like an orchestra getting
in tune on one. There's like an insect invasion thing
going on later in the album with like like some
bombs going off and stuff too. But yeah, this one,
the lyrics are pretty crazy. I'm not a huge lyric
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person usually, especially with like hard vocals. It's hard to
get into that sometimes too, But it's fun on this
one because Ivory and Josh are both like they do
they both do lead vocals, but they both do hard
vocal and clean vocals too, so that's kind of a unique,
I think to this one more so than some of
our stuff as well, or I'll see the other bands
as well, but else I got here, So yeah, when
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I woked to go buy the CD, I heard the
song mouth like a magazine on this show, and so
I got pretty catchy. It's got some like hard vocals,
and this is probably the first I think, like album
I bought with like probably pretty hard vocals, And I
remember I bought that the same day I about the
CD that I have here, and I bought this album
by the Osci Supertones is their greatest at the same time,
and I remember checking out the albums and like I
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think I kind of got scared with the show Bird
album a little bit, and like Milsten mostly at the
time to the great hits by the super Tones, and
ended up really liking obviously like the Showbird album a
lot more within a year or so or however long
that took. But that was a Crossroads and two Falls,
if any of you.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Guys, Crossroads and.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
The Christian Books Star So yeah, especially the song Samsa
Meets Kafka, which is like really embrasive and brush and
all kinds of stuff. So yeah, it's a really long
album too, which is kind of cool for something that's uh,
that's good and uh there's some reale roper guests vocals
to on a couple of songs, and different dynamics in
terms of like some really like kind of like our
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heartfelt like clean vocal stuff. Yeah, there's it's just a
lot of variety, but it's all over the place in
a good way.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah. No, I think you said it right. It's cohesive.
It's it's the kind of album that when you put
it on, you want to listen to the whole thing,
even if you were just hoping for like a little
taste or you just wanted like a little snack of of.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The singles or yeah, like a magazine.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, as soon as you hear one song, like all right,
and I don't want to listen to the rest of
the album.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know, it's like watching the movie on cable or something.
You kind of are in for a penny, in for
a pound at some point.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah. I'm usually there for the Pepsi commercials, but dude,
very very well done. I I I agree completely. Anyone
else got anything to add to to No certain nihilism.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I'm just gonna say that the David Crowder band album
that did that was Requiem. That was the one that
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's such a that's a very creative thing for a
David Crowder type band to do. That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Is that the last one or is that the one
that has like, uh I saw the light on it?
Speaker 7 (24:09):
I think that's the last one that they did as
a band, Like, yeah, very nice.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Next up is Tim the tool Person Taylor.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
All Right, So uh okay, so I've got a couple,
but I'm gonna start off with the one that I
really think like has proven itself to be timeless. Billy
Joel's The Stranger. Oh, fantastic album. Like that's one that
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like you can start and be like I'm listening to
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Right.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
My first experience with this album was my parents' basement,
probably college, and like they had just bought it as
like as one of the big old record players. She
didn't even get it like a you place. My dad
bought it because he like bought random stuff, and so
he bought this thing. And there's a bunch of records
that he also bought at the record store and that
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happened to be one. It's like, huh, let me listen
to this. I just listened to the whole thing, and
I think there were points as it's going where I'm
like feeling tears coming to my eyes. I'm like a
couple of songs that like maybe heard parts of before,
is like oldies or whatever. But I was like, this
is good, Like this is like no skips. I want
to I want to listen to that again. And I
think I ended up listening to it like three times
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in a row, like that night.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It was just that good.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
I was like, man, this is fantastic. I don't think
there's any skips on that, and it's just like lots
of cool stuff. Like I was like, this feels like
somebody could have like written and recorded this yesterday, right
in terms of like what he does, like the recording
techniques and just the different I don't know, like you
know you ought to know by now like you can
(25:53):
somebody starts saying he was like, oh, yeah, I know
that song right. It's just like there's nothing hokey about it,
which I think is really cool. Like sometimes I feel
like like music like top forty hits and things like that.
It's like it's kind of hokey a little whatever, but
this is like there's no moment of that. I also
think it's cool that this kind of like a concept album,
Like he's not just writing, he's like kind of writing
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from a particular perspective too, Right, So it's a character,
a couple of characters. I don't know, but that was
definitely one that came to mind. I was like, I
don't really listen to that, but like somebody put that on,
I would sit down and just listen.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I love that one. I love that one a lot.
I think that's uh. I think that's one of those
records that it doesn't matter who you are, it's it's
it's completely universal, you know, and you do kind of
fall into that character that the stranger that he talks about.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I have a lot of nostalgia for the opener
moving out. When I worked to the post office for
viewers after I was in college, it was on the
radio a lot. I think I hadn't heard that one before.
I was familiar with like some of the other big
ones that his before that, but I hadn't heard that song.
And yeah, it's just yeah, I don't know, I actually want.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I think that's Billy Joel's best song personally.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a song called Souvenir. I like
a lot of his. It's really shorts. It's on a
different album that I really liked by him. I think
it was an episode of How I Met Your Mother's
Why I Encountered It First? Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Unrelated to the album, I'm just seeing on Billy Joel's
Wikipedia page that he graduated high school twenty five years later?
What forty three? Really? Because he had a miss English exam?
He was he was awarded his high school diploma.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Twenty five years later, he received an honorary high school diploma.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The funny thing is he's actually it looks like he's
received how many is this? It looks like seven honorary
doctor degrees.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Though probably before he had his high school diploma.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's actually right, She's like Jill Biden exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I love it all right. Next up is David thousand
foot male appendage brother.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I appreciate you keeping that PG. That was nice.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
There's a lot of a lot of families and children
that are probably gonna listen to this show.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And this is a Christian music podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
That was Yeah, that was really thoughtful of you, Colon.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You learn how to do that when you talk to
high schoolers all.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Day long and you have an him audience.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I just talked to myself all day long, ninety percent
of my existence, just alone in my apartment with my computer,
and like, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
We're doing two right?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Was that the just do one right now?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, just one.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm gonna save.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
My favorite one for last then, but the secondary one
of the two that I have would be hold on
the season by All get Out?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oh and I'll get out.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I feel like like they're like popular ish, but like
still like super underrated.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
When the last As Cities.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Burned album came out in yeah, maybe two thousand and seventeen,
twenty eighteen, I don't know, it was a while ago.
It might have been twenty nineteen. I think it was
actually before, like right before the world shut down. But
they did a tour and All Get Out opened up
and it massively flopped.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Like the I remember like Cody, like the singer from Mat.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Cities burn was like super pissed because like the promoters
didn't like promote it and like they would play like
these like five hundred cap rooms and like literally there'd
be like twenty people but all get out opened up.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
On that tour and it absolutely blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
And I don't know how, but like I somehow discovered
that album just on like the top songs on Spotify
and started listening to it, and I think the thing
that stuck out with me the most was like I
think at the point at that point, like when I
really started listening to it, I was like going through
my divorce or had like just gone through it, and
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was like starting to like experiment with like just being
out in the world by myself and like dating and
just like having relationships for the first time on my own,
not even like romantic, just like relationships in general, like
as a single person, because like I'd been literally like
married for most of my adult life. And as I
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listened to this album, like they did such a good job.
I felt like with like communicating like relationship dynamics, whether
it's just like interacting with your neighbor or like interacting
with a loved one.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like there's like so many different.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Songs about like heartbreak and just like being alone, and
then also just like the music itself, like it's just
like a roller coaster. Like there's crazy guitar parts and
like yelling and then there's calm stuff and it just
like it goes on a full adventure. So yeah, I
really think that that's an underrated album and underrated band.
(31:01):
And yeah, like I think it's it's a great a
great album.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, definitely all Killer, no filler there.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, definitely all Killer for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, I'm always happy when that open band is actually
something I'm into. It's not the most common thing, unfortunately,
but it works out on it's a while. Yeah, the
one for me was the big one for me is
The Dig. That was I don't know if the three
even around anymore, but yeah, that was before a three
show in Minneapolis one time.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The Dig.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, I think I heard them on like some coffee
shop like playlist once in a while. It's like in
the twenty tens, but let's.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Check that out.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Sounds like a post punk band or something.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It does kind of sound like a post punk band.
It's true, they're.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Kind of they're like a rock band. They're a little
they have like some like sims and stuff. I don't know,
they're like a twenty tens band. How I describe them.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, that's a good call. I think it's I think
there's gonna be a few twenty tens bands on here,
all right, the beautiful Kayley.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, so I'm gonna be surprised if anybody else really
knows this band.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
But all right, I'm sure we get it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Or just okay, but we already know about Mumford and
Sons camp.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I will admit before we go on, there was a
lot of Mumford and Son's chat in the group chat,
and I was getting a little skeptical at everybody's That.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Was a big day when a bunch of albums came
out the same day.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, Colin.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I felt the same.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
The true, the true answer here is Family Force five.
Obviously I was like, oh's but okay, I could make
an argument because it is the perfect cringe band, like
everything is Everything they do is cringe and they nail it.
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But that's that's not what we're doing. So two thousand
and six, this band released their first full album, I
Am Ghost, with the album Lover's Requiem. It is probably
it's probably the best album that I've heard put together.
(33:21):
It was kind of orchestrated by two people who have
classic they have degrees in composing music, and so like
the violinist on it actually composes orchestra is orchestras with
strings right or is that piece of But so like
(33:45):
they wrote out this, they wrote out very good violin parts.
There's they have choir in it that are singing like
this classical requiem type sounds that are like very mo
Mozart like. But then the main music is this gothic
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punk who where the lead singer has an operatic voice
but he's singing punk. The violinist, who is a woman,
sings back up, and the entire album is a story
of a vampire and an angel falling in love but
then how they realize they can't be together and then
it ends with them separating and uh, I don't remember
(34:33):
if there's were wolves off the top client any any?
Uh No, this is this is like more underworld type
of vampire, not Stephanie Meyer vampire.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So I haven't heard these people. But is it dream
theater esque less maybe guitar centric though.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
It's yeah, I don't it's or is it just not really? Yeah,
it's really kind of its own thing. They kind of
did gothic punk very well, the people that kind of
brought that around was Aiden just a little bit before that,
and I don't know, I'm ghost is able to do
it without grooming the teenagers, so that's you know, that's
(35:21):
good on them. Aiden wasn't able to do that. But yeah,
in it, like it does break the no fillers because
there is a filler song. However, in my defense, it
really plays into the whole, the whole like theme of it,
(35:43):
so it's it's kind of filler, but like it builds up.
They do this wonderful thing of switching between four four
and in six eight that is amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
They use.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
A lot of distance in some of their songs. It's
it's just it's so good. It's incredibly creative. The lyrics
are creative, the music is so incredibly put together. I
would say it's a it's a perfect album. And the
the the ending of it is probably the best, one
(36:20):
of the best endings to an album because it's just
an outro with that's in uh six eight time you
got the double bass going and the violin and I
think that a cello in it, but then this opera
in the background, and it's it's great.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, it sounds like a pure smorgas. I love it.
I'm in, I wanna, I want to hear I am
ghost if.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You need any more reason to uh listen to him Culin.
They did tour with the Chariot back and looks like.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Dead what they did?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
And they also they toured with Escape the Fate back
when Ronnie Racky he was I was in it.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
All right, Well I'm in. I'm gonna go check him
out as.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
How did they escape Ronnie Racky? And then the aiding guy?
Holy cow, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, I'm always big on bands that aren't just
you know, bass, guitar, drums, vocals, So that's always interesting
to me. I remember going to Life Flight back in
the day, just like watching like eight bands of that
in a row in the afternoon stage always.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
So there's a band called She Heard Hers and they
have a song called killed Kill the boy band And
in the second verse it's like.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Ah, damn it, it's so late and I'm tired, basically
uh saying if your band is all white, all white
sis white guys, you might as well play country because
they all sound the same.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
This is true, This is true, all right. My record
is one that I don't think any of our listeners
ever would have imagined I listened to. I think that
this record is one that is for everybody. It's the
most accessible record I've ever heard, but never falls into
(38:32):
the gimmicky, never falls into the hokey or cheesy or
lame territory.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And it is dreamed by Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It is teenage dreamed by Katy Perry. No, it is
a tourist history by Tudor Cinema Club.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I know this about you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't know what it is about this record. They
haven't made anything else that comes anywhere near this kind
of musicianship, in my opinion. They've had a few songs
here and there on their other records, but this one
in particular, through and through every single song is so good.
It's danceable, it's listenable, it's chantible. They've got tunes that
(39:15):
you are going to want to sing as if you
are in an arena, you know, with a thousand other people,
or if you are or ten thousand other people, I
should say, or if you are you know, just hanging out,
chilling on the couch and just listening to music. It
also works for that. It is lightning in a bottle
(39:36):
kind of an album, and whenever I think of the
perfect album, it is the first album that comes in
my head every single time. For good reason. I think, Yeah,
I just I don't have much else to say about
it other than that I'd never heard anyone really match
the sounds that they created on this record. There's not
a note out of place, and they suck. I'll say
(40:00):
that this. I've seen live footage of them doing this
record live and it's not good. But on the record itself,
it's fantastic. Maybe they've gotten better as time has gone on.
I know that this was like their debut album and
stuff like that, so it's it's.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Was there a big one from that album? I remember
listening to it. I think, yeah, there was a.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Bunch of cigarettes in the theater undercover Martin, do you
want it all? There was a whole that might be
the one, A whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think I listened to it at the time and
then probably lost it in a switching from Spotify to
Apple Music kind of thing or something. I don't know,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
One of those strange groups that like they kind of
like reached the zeitgeist and like people had at least
heard of them, but they like quickly faded from memory
almost immediately. But and it it doesn't matter what audience
I play it to. Like, if I played it like
at Thanksgiving, everyone in the room would be happy that
(41:01):
I was playing it. If I was playing it in
my classroom, everyone to be happy that I was playing it.
If I was playing it in a group full of uh,
you know, gruff bikers, they would all be happy I
was playing it. It is the most accessible music I
have ever seen, and it never falls into the typical
pitfalls of accessible music of being hokey or cheesy or
(41:22):
corny or whatever.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So yeah, they kind of nailed this ability to be
poppy enough for people that only like pop music. And
then there is something about their sound that is indie
and hipster and cool enough to you know, appease that
audience as well. Yeah, and they just like nailed that,
(41:45):
Like whatever that fine line is, they nailed it perfectly. Yeah,
especially in this album.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, exactly, Like I said, they have a couple of
their songs here and there, but that's it good.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
All right, brain I think kind of by the same
space of my head as like Passion Pit.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Is that Oh yeah, yeah, perfect, perfect perfect call. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I think it's the same time frame, same sort
of or.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Even even like uh like glass animals or wash trees,
you know, the washed Out. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot
like that.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah. Oh yeah, I washed Out. Yeah. If there're anything
like that, then I they were a big fan of
or big one of mine.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Two Yeah all right, Mace, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Another album that I don't think most people in my
life know that I listened to on the regular, but.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I just I wish, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
But still an album that I like. I remember when
it came out again, I think this album came out
in twenty nineteen, so around the time that the Birds
and Row album came out. But this album as soon
as it came out, and it was an artist I
had never really listened to outside of her like full band,
but it was her. It's her solo project, but I
had never really her much, and then this album came
(43:02):
out and I was like, this just is incredible musicianship.
And so the album is called Jamie and the artist
is Brittany Howard, who is in a band called Alabama Shakes, Yes,
which she's probably most famous for Alabama Shakes, but her
solo album Jamie. I don't know if she's had a
(43:22):
solo album since I don't think I could be wrong,
don't quote me on that. But this album has such
a diverse range of genres going on. Like she'll have
like a hip hop song, she'll have like a country song,
she'll have a jazz funk song. I mean, just like
it's a whole range of different genres, and the whole
album is really about her struggle navigating identity around being
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like a biracial woman growing up in Alabama, and it's
just it's like fascinating. It's just really well done. I
just think her musician shit. I mean, obviously she just
has an incredible voice, but just everything about the album
is really really well done. And I think it's only
like ten, maybe even nine songs. It could be as
(44:05):
short as it's a short it's not that long of
an album. I mean, it's just over thirty minutes. I
mean it almost feels as short as like a punk album.
But because of that, it just like you get through
the entire album so quickly that you're like you're almost
wanting more. And I think that's a really good indication
that it's a perfect album. Is like you just you
get done with it so soon you're like, wait, like
I wish there was more of this sound again, And
(44:27):
that's exactly what this album does for me. So I
think it's just an incredible album. Again. I just don't
think most people would assume that I'm a huge Brittany
Howard fan, but I just think she's incredible.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, and her new alternative music or heavy music fora
is one of my most anticipated things.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I've been watching those live videos. I don't think there's
been any like studio recordings yet that have been released yet. Yeah,
but the live videos of her screaming is absolutely insane,
and I'm so excited for this hardcore project.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, has anyone else has anyone else here heard it?
Speaker 4 (45:03):
What is it called? Again?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I don't remember the band name.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
But was that in the group suttle on time ago?
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I think probably. I am so stoked about this, like
it's uh the band is called uh what is it called? Who?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Mike? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
K you m I t E Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah. They should definitely get them at Furness Fest next
year or even Alabama Shakes. That'd be a great time.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, her scream is pretty unbelievable. So anyway, Jamie Brittany Howard,
I think it's a perfect album.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Great calls, great call Ryan.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
This next one is when I was interested is to
doing VBS over the summer a couple of years back,
when I was in college going to a Bible school.
My friend Owen that I met calling through Yeah go
yeah he's listening. Shout out to Owen yesterday. Nice? Oh
a track? H nice? How's the track season going?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
It's great, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
So I think this was an Illinois maybe when we
listened to this. But yeah, i'd heard The Holy Fee
before this and I'd liked it. And this is back
when CD's were the main deal, so I didn't have
chad chance to listen to everything else yet there wasn't
streaming and easily accessible stuff. But yeah, this isn't probably
the biggest one that people know by this band, but
it's my favorite. I like the other one too, but
this is a's hard to find a friend by Peter
the Lion.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Oh hell yes.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
So I like Control just as much as everybody else too.
But this one's got a really special place so from
from that time especially, but just uh so, Yeah, I
talked earlier about not being a huge lyrics person. But yeah,
this one's definitely a lot about the lyrics, Yeah for sure.
So so, yeah, he talks about stories a lot. He's
very descriptive in his his songwriting a lot of the time.
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Sometimes the stories are personal to him. Sometimes you know,
they're just stories of things that he thought about and
maybe to whatever came into his head. But especially they're heavy,
they're relatable, they're super funny, sarcastic. I mean, there's a
song on here about like women shaving their legs, which
I did. He did play live quite a bit when
after he wasn't playing much from this album is a
lot of the lyrical content, so but yeah, especially like
(47:11):
that Bad Diary Days is pretty devastating. It's about like
someone with an unfaithful partner and has a killer guitar outro.
It's just the best. So and a song earlier on
the album called Big Trucks, which is just sort of
like being young and dumb and not really understanding like
what it's like to become an older becoming an older
older man and having your dad kind of explain things
a little bit to you about like this is what
(47:31):
it's like. This is he don't flip off the guys
in the trucks and they get in your way kind
of stuff. So and yeah, especially towards the end of
the album, the song called the Bells kind of basically
just stay a prayer, like from a young man. It
was relatable for me at the time and even today too,
so Yeah. And then also the Secret of the Easyoak,
which I was probably about the same ade I suppose
(47:52):
as Dave, like when I heard this album about ten
years after it came out, this he was when he
wrote it. But yeah, I was probably in the same
similar place to like starting to kind of feel pretty
out of step with Christianitian in America and just pretty
I don't know, jaded by a lot of the people
I knew and experiences I had, and hypocrisy and all
that usual stuff. So and pretty after pretty Infamoucy. Infamously,
after this, Dave obviously renounced his faith and I kind
(48:15):
of figured I never hear most of this album live,
But twenty twenty three I got to go see him
input in the Cities and he played this album and
Control at the same time. Yeah, and I got to
go with Owen, so kind of brought everything all full circle.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, I'm bummed you guys don't invite me. That's there's
a real stab in the heart and not gonna life.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
It's a public event. I mean, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
That's true. But when my friends don't invite me, it hurts. Sure,
it goes no. I I one hundred percent agree that
that is the definition of a perfect album in my opinion,
and it is the lyrics that pull it all together.
It is it is so relatable, so folksy in so
many ways, and I feel like that's kind of becoming
(48:55):
a lost art. I don't know if anyone else has
anything to say on that, but I feel like I
feel like that folksy, relatable kind of content in terms
of lyrical style, is really becoming extinct.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
I was gonna say, I put not that album but
Phoenix by Dave Zon as an honorable mention, And I
feel like it had some sleepers though, like you like
it's just so slow, you like fall asleep a little bit.
But like, aside from those like the storytelling is just
like absolutely bananas.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Like especially on those new ones where there's sort of
stories like from different times of his life, like yeah,
this is growing up, but it's a really cool idea.
I love it.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
Yeah, I would say I don't know that it's necessarily
a dying art. I mean, there's the guy I found
on Instagram, Jesse Wells, who does all rights all sorts
of folk music, specific like in the vein of like
protest folk music. Oh yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
That is a dying art. I don't care what anyone's saying.
True protest music is is dods really good.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
If there's ever a time, it's right now. So I'm
sure we'll be getting a lot of that if nothing else, I.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Hope to God that we do. Yeah, I want to
hear some tariff protest songs.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
God damn, all right, who's next?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
All right, we're on too uo.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
Okay, God, you know, I was really sad when you
said no no soundtracks because this would have been Star
Wars Episode one sound track.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I am fully on board with you. But yes, I
love the episode one soundtrack. I listened to it all
the time.
Speaker 7 (50:44):
I'll fall pretty good, wake up to the duel of fates,
Duel the fates. Yeah, so this one for me, I
think is it's of man by cool Hand Luke.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Heck, yeah, whoa, that's left field.
Speaker 7 (51:01):
Holy Perfect Album.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, I love it right now.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
It's that's a band I've heard of and so long.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, I've been trying to get them on the podcast
forever because you only have one person to track down. Really,
it's been so hard. I've gotten a hold of him,
then then we like lose contact some I don't know anyways,
I agree Perfect album. Yeah, yes, sorry.
Speaker 7 (51:31):
Yeah, so it's it's it's definitely a very like from
from the you know, from the Foundation. It's a very
religious album, right. It is essentially lent slash Passion week
stuff Christianity, like through and through. What I love about
it is like you like you can tell it's it's
(51:52):
the last really, in my opinion, it's really the last
Cool Hand Luke album. I know he released Cora afterward,
it's a few years later, but this feels like everything
that Cool Hand Luke was got distilled and put into this.
They had a lot, he had lots of like guests
come in, you know, guitars and I think, you know
(52:12):
there's somebody somebody from under Oath or somebody on guitars
under Oath in Normangy I can't remember, but just like
such such good stuff. There's such there's all this emotion,
there's these highs lows and just really takes you on.
Like talking about albums that you listen from front to back, like,
that's definitely one because it's a story beginning to end
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and also you know the Chariot length because apparently that's
what we're doing. Mark Knicks played drums in the Chariot
for a little bit and then left. So yeah, but
I love this album. It is definitely not what I
listened to all the time, but there are parts of
the year where it's like this gets heavy rotation.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's me too. I definitely check it out
a few times, usually this time of or I think
when we're talking about it a few weeks ago. I
definitely listened to it later that day at work, and
I really like the kind of the callbacks like to
other albums and other songs that he did, especially what
is it the Silver or Not whichever one that calls
back like the Incomprehensible Sleep from the Sleeping House. That's
what probably my favorite cool end looks on it, like yeah, yeah,
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and then yeah, there's like something like the like there's
like the lyrics about wake up of Sleeper and there's
like the Solely Dale Gloria. I think that's like a
hidden track. It's like one of those like euro rewind
the album from the beginning back to the very last.
Speaker 7 (53:27):
It's a very last track on it.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, I don't know what it is about that album,
but October is the month that I listened to that
it for me, it feels like it fits that season
so well. Maybe maybe some of you guys have the
same experience, but there's some albums that a certain time
of the year comes around a certain you know, crisp
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in the air or maybe warmth in the air, you
you name it. You all of a sudden are taken
back immediately to a certain time in play. And I
remember listening to that album while I was walking my dog,
and I just kept going further and further and further
because I had to keep listening to the album and
I probably listened to it seven times in a row.
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I'm not over exaggerating with that, just because I was
just taking it all in, and of course it was.
It was a crisp fall evening and it turned into
a very cold fall night and I just my hands
were freezing. I had my disc Walkman, you know, the
good old days, holding it like this and that that
record definitely holds a core memory part of me. Also,
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I remember hearing the story that there was like a
tour that they went on in which for most of
the tour they did not face the crowd. The entire time.
They turned their backs, all of them turned their backs
to the crowd because they were quite serious about the
art of it, the message of it, you know, and
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being convicted by something like that is I think that's
high art first of all, and I also think it's
very commendable. So yeah, good stuff, good stuff, Gosh, what
an album?
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (55:21):
For me, the track that I that I love Slash
hate the most is His Eyes. So that's the one
where it's sort of like this build and there's like
you know, the matic it's like crucifixion and like you
get to that point and there's just like they bring
sort of the screams, but they're way better at this
point in the career. Like from where they started, it
was like this is hard to listen to, hard.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
To listen to. The production wasn't great on some of
those early stuff, and he.
Speaker 7 (55:46):
Could barely sing, you know, he was really learning, But
like here it's just like everything is perfect and you
just feel like you viscerally feel like what he's describing
in that moment was just just stuff.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, that is a that is a deep cutting
album for sure. All Right, we better keep moving, David.
Speaker 5 (56:12):
All Right, So my other, like my my top, what
I feel is actually a perfect album, and I exposed
it in our group chat, but I still kept it
is Lament by Touche more like that is it's on
the cusp of the five years. It came out in
twenty twenty, but it is just such an insane fucking record, Like,
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and I have a lot of reasons. Well, I guess
I should backtrack to say that I don't even know
how I found out about Touche a More. They've been
around for ages before that, but I never listened to
any of their music. I can't remember how I discovered
that album, but I remember coming across it when it
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came out in twenty twenty, and.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
It just like absolutely just like destroying me.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Like it's kind of funny because it's just like, oh, like,
you're just like a straight white dude, Like what kind
of problems can you have? Like, And I honestly don't know,
if I step back and look at outside album, I like,
I don't think that guy has many problems, but like
he convinces you like that life is.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Just like extremely painful.
Speaker 5 (57:18):
But there's also like amongst it, Like there's a song
where in like the chorus he says like I need
reminders of the love that I have, and like I
think that's just like such a human thing, like sometimes
we all just need to be reminded that like we're
loved and others love.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Us and that they're there.
Speaker 5 (57:36):
And another two other things that stuck out, Well, there's
three things. Andy from uh Manjo's Orchestra. He has guess
vocals on that, which like I wouldn't have never really
thought about, but like it works perfect, and like he
must have an affinity for like hardcore music, because a
couple of years later, he appears on every Time I Die,
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his last album, which again feels like out of left field,
but it also just like makes sense and is perfect.
So that was a really cool thing because you're not
really expecting that.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
And then also.
Speaker 5 (58:14):
Again just like that whole thing of like loss but
like also being like clever, like his previous album, like
that I never really got into but like I've heard
any interviews was.
Speaker 4 (58:25):
About like his mom passing away I think from cancer.
Speaker 5 (58:28):
And the album comes out in twenty twenty, and he
talks about how he's lost more family members to the
GOP than cancer. But he just like he just like
suddenly like slips it in there. Like it's just like
it's not like he's not screaming or anything. He just
like literally just like suddenly slips it in there. And
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you're almost like, wait, what did you say?
Speaker 4 (58:51):
And like you have to go back and listen to it.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
And I just think, like the subtle nature of something
so large like that after you had like actual devastation
of like lose I mean like one of your like
best like friends and family members is just so.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Wild to me. And then to like kind of tie it.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
All up, he ends it singing, which like that guy
is not a singer, Like he shouldn't be, like, in
my opinion, like he shouldn't be singing, like he's like
a screamer.
Speaker 4 (59:20):
Like his his voice when he sings is.
Speaker 5 (59:23):
Not good, but like he just fucking goes out on
a limb and does it and it's beautiful and he
has like piano playing like there's like this whole like
piano valad, which like you don't expect for a hardcore album,
and then like it ends on a total high note
of him just like kind of losing it with a
bunch of energy again.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
And so I just don't think that you would expect that.
So that is why that I think is a perfect album.
It's just a beautiful rollercoaster.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah. I had that one on my list. That album.
I I cannot be in a public place if I
listen to that album.
Speaker 5 (59:56):
Yeah, because you cry for real, No, I've regard the
other thing. It's yeah, well no, finish what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
But I'll remember, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I had a moment where I was mowing the lawn
and I was like, oh, listen to Tuche More and
I might have had a few miller lights. I have
a I have four acres of grass to mow in
my yard because I have a huge yard, and I
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had to stop for two hours. I literally was just
like sitting there frying on the mower, just bawling my
eyes out because I mean I was going through an
extremely rough time in my life and I thought I
was gonna die at that moment because that album had
hit me so fucking hard, and I have to get
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Like I said, I have to be very very careful
where I'm at when I put that song on. I
was listening to it literally last week as I was
driving to school, and I had a friend of mine
who was, you know, kind of spilling his guys and
he was, you know, kind of on the edge of life.
And I shared that exact song that you that you
brought up where it says I need reminders of the
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love I had. I need reminders good or bad. And
I shared that song with him and he's like, dude,
this this literally has like snapped me back into reality
and that that there is plenty of people here that
love me and that I need to I need to
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just remember. I need to remember that I'm not alone
in this in this life, and then I'm not alone
in this world. And shit, man, Like I I got
to school and I literally was like slapping myself in
the face because I was like, I need to, like,
you know, prepare for the day. But like, there's not
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a lot of albums that have affected me like that album.
You know, if we're talking about influential albums, that's an
album that is easily probably. I think it's probably the
most influential maybe other than what I'm gonna have next here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
So yeah, I was gonna say, well, two things is funny.
Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
I'm just imagining like your students coming in, they're like,
while you're crying, You're like, I listened to the t
h More record.
Speaker 9 (01:02:25):
Not Again, and then the thing that you reminded me of. Yeah, literally, mister,
the thing that you reminded me of as you were
talking that I forgot was another thing that makes that
record great and very sad but also like beautifully human is.
Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
He doesn't say it exactly, but.
Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
He he He mentions in maybe the last song about
how he wrote a whole entire record about like the
worst time of his life, and he was like, but
no one asked me like or asked me now like
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how I'm doing, even some of you that are profiting
off of this current album, and you're just like.
Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
The fuck.
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Like I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Like completely breaks the fourth wall. Yeah, musical world that
never that never happens.
Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Like I was just like he could be talking about
like he's like label me or like the people on
his label, like the people in his vand like he
could be talking about like anyone like that, like are
actually a part of this?
Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
And I was just like, this is horrible, Like this.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Is saddest disk track ever.
Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Yeah, like it's just so sad like and I don't
think I caught that until listening to to listening to
it this last time, and I was just like, god,
like I don't know, it kind of made me sad,
I think more than anything, like because I was just like, man,
I want I hope you talked with like someone about this,
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like more than just like it being on the record,
Like I hope you did like actually reconcile those things.
Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
He needs a tim Yeah, hey, you know what that
song in particularly you guys were talking about like that live.
I got to see it in the last year they
came through and like I'm pretty sure people were crying
as they and like running into each other just like
so good. Also, he's also a poet. Yeah, Like if
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you've not read his poetry, you really should. It's just
it'll it'll rip your heart out.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
To do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Do you know? How do you know how much he has?
Is it just that December one.
Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Or there's a few of them.
Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
This is the one that I was able to snag
when it was it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Was just so good. I've definitely heard of the band
for a long time. I think they were very closely
associated with me that you like genre of why is
at least for.
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
A long time he guessed with them.
Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah, yeah, never got round list to them, but I
have a little bit now like lately. And then actually
my biggest touch with him is his podcast, the first
ever podcasts he started doing during COVID. That's been really
good too.
Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yeah, podcast is sick for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yeah, yeah, I I was with that album the day
after I was were talking about it and I really
liked it, especially you had the song with hay Hole.
I'm a big Manchester fan.
Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Oh yeah, all right, Kaylee Europe.
Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
So I think I said this on the on the
group chat and you probably didn't take me serious. But
and also this is such a weird thing to go
after that discussion. Sub Seven's Free to Conquer. I'm gonna
perfect perfect album for for what it was, thirty five
minutes long, ten tracks, but it all it came out
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at a time whenever like Emo is hitting mainstream and
like Christianity sucked at doing email music, and they just
kind of came on and did their own thing and
created such a unique sound that it really defined the
fact that you could actually just make good music instead
of trying to be trying to be whatever is popular
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in the mainstream. And you know, it had had some
build on it, like a really heavy track which was
really followed by a very slow soft track, and it
ends on like honestly one of my like favorite like
get hyped songs, which is a vampire and it's Yeah,
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it's just such such a good album for the time
and such. It was incredibly unique for for what it was. Say,
I'm going to say that that one's a favorite for
mine for me and I'll listen to that still just
really good.
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Didn't you have a pretty close connection with those guys.
Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
I became friends with Wesley, like way after the fact.
I did a podcast to college friend of mine. This
is like before I came out and transitioned, and he
just reached out to them and be like, hey, I
would like to interview you if you're up to it.
(01:07:19):
And then yeah, Wesley and I started talking and becoming
friends and like this is when I was like deconstruction
from Christianity and he kind of was too. But then
he kind of had some stuff like fall apart in
his life, which is different. But I kind of lost
(01:07:39):
touch with him a little bit whenever I transitioned, which
wasn't necessarily fair because he's actually he reached out to
me and was cool about it. And yeah, so I'm
realizing that I let that friendship. That friendship kind of
fell through because of me, not because of him. But yeah,
(01:08:00):
but that's awesome too, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, I'm so glad that. I'm so glad that he
came on the podcast. And actually, surprisingly so what I've
always found interesting and this is kind of a you know,
a side tangent, but you know, we've had Brian had
Welch on here and we've had Dave the Snake Sabo
from from skid Row. You know what, you want to
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know what what episode has outdone both those people? Sub
seven There's a good reason for believe it's they've made
records that mean a lot to people, and Free to
Concer is a perfect album through and through.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Agree totally con tracks of greatness, every single one.
Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one of the I stole
that one from my uh from my youth group room.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Nice yeah that that album. There are not that many
bands where they've only released one full length album and
and and it's just like an incredible album. But that's
one of those few bands out in the world that
have only released one album and it's a great album.
(01:09:13):
New Radicals is probably actually one of the other ones.
But like, honestly, there's not too many failure on that
failure on is up there, Ryan, what you're.
Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Saying New Radicals. I guess I didn't realize there was
anything else on that album besides you Get what You Give.
Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yeah, there's a whole a whole bunch of those songs.
But yeah, I mean there's there. There are not too
many bands where they only have one full length and
and it's just an actual actual banger of an album
and sub sevens for to conquer as one of them.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
And then there's a couple of different versions like slightly
from that, and and like there those are. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
I was just gonna say, they're a band that a
lot of people love, but so it's not a band
that comes up very often on like one of my
favorite bands, But whenever you bring it up, there's a
lot of people they're like, oh yeah, sup seven I
love that band.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I agree. All right, my turn. This
one also kind of out of left field, mainly because
I'm not a I get very tired of the lead
vocalist here. And our friend David actually just took some
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beautiful photographs of this guy trying to jump into a
recycling bin.
Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Fiction family, not fiction family. There their self titled album
blew my mind. I did not know that folky songwriter
type music could be that good, uh, and and that
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they could nail it that well through and through their
their second album, I think it's called I think it's
called Reunion or something like that. It's not it's not
nearly as good the original one. I have it on vinyl,
I have it signed. I think that it is a
perfect record through and through. I had a very bad
breakup when I was in high school, and that album
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was what got me through it. And it was it was,
it was beautiful. I probably don't survive without that album.
I think it's it's one of those that reaches into
your soul. And but at the same time, it's not
like taking itself too seriously either. It's it's it's very serious,
(01:11:43):
but also very It's almost like a like a father
or like a like a an authority figure in your
life that you actually trust. Is Daddy talking to Maybe not.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Daddy, It is not a daddy. I don't know about
the other.
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Guy, Sean Watkins from Nickel Creek.
Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, from that was like something kind of like Blue
Grassy Year.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah. I think they were a Grammy either nominated or
winning art bluegrass. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
It's like a sister's in the band too, Sarah, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, yep, yep, yeah, yeah, very very interesting duo. Two
guys you would never imagine, you know, playing together, and
their their mixture is just it's potent and it and
it works well and I'm I'm here for it, and
I think that anyone who listens to that record will
definitely feel what I'm talking about, especially like the dueling
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acoustics that they that they put together. You get some
very very interesting melodies that I've never heard from any
other band ever or not band, but do well, I guess.
And then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Just both sing on the same track very much on
that album. I don't Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
They would usually back each other. What I like about
it is like it's basically like the it's basically the
blue print that everyone uses today they were doing back
in what twenty ten when that album came out. So,
so you know the blueprint of like, hey, I live
halfway across the country. You live halfway the halfway across
the country. Let's just drop box a whole bunch of
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ideas back and forth to each other till we come
up with an album. That's essentially what they did.
Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Or send it through the posal service, yeah yes.
Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Or send it through the postal service. But they, uh,
that's how they did it. They just drop boxed a
whole bunch of of of kind of ideas back and
forth to each other until they had a full album
and they're like, well, I guess we got to release it.
And it's it's a perfect album through there's not a
single filler song in there.
Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
So I've got a couple of things tracks say, event
the whole thing also check the whole thing out again.
Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yeah, yeah, we should.
Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I need to go back and listen to an ave
and listen to it. Probably since the cheme out.
Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
I may have listened to a couple of tracks since
the over the last like twenty years or how long
it's been, but yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
It's been a while.
Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Yeah, I mostly remember yeah the first track though, when
She's Near, and then the third one that's I'm not
Sure to get over you whatever it's called Elements.
Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Elements Combined is my favorite one, and I think that
that one definitely makes you feel what like love is
like or like new love is like. I guess so
it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
That's definitely the first track to you.
Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yeah, Yeah, good, all right? Makes a final record.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Oh we're gonna go through, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Go, let's go to a third why not? This is fun.
I hope you guys are having fun. If you're not
having fun, just say I'm not having fun and we
can stop now.
Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
I don't know if I have a third record, I
just have honorable mentions.
Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Well, then just throw one of your honorable mentions in the.
Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
This is an album that has been mentioned a few
times on as as an infinite as an influential album,
but it truly is one of my one of the
top albums that I listened to just really consistently and
again like it's a no skip album. I think it's perfect.
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I think it's also I often talk about in the
podcast there's a difference between your favorite album, a band's
most influential album and their best album, and this is
one of those bands. And I guess, truly believe that
this is this band's best album. Can I guess their
most influential and it's not there? It's not my favorite?
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Can I guess? Please? Can I guess?
Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I have a guess too?
Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Is it a Radiohead album?
Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
I was gonna say cigare Ros.
Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Okay, so this is always the part where I'm not
sure where you're thinking at it? Is it kid A?
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
It is kid.
Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Right, best friends.
Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
The reason why I'm not gonna say Cigarros is because
SUGROSSU probably Valtari. It is truly like an influence, like
I would put it in my top five, and so
I just like, I feel like I can't put them
in there right now. Yeah, but yeah, Radiohead's kidd A
just an absolutely stunning album through and through from the
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very beginning to the very end. It's just truly an
unbelievable album. I don't really know what else to say
about it. It's just absolutely incredible album. That this is
an album that I really I never really got into
Radiohead until probably college for me, so this would have
been like way after radio had even became really a
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big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Actually, Like, I remember when you got into Radiohead because we.
Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Were I was like, we were driving around girl issues
and all that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yeah, we were driving around to my granddam and we
were at Walmart and then I put in in Rainbows
and You're like, what is this? I was like, it's Radiohead.
You're like, this is this is Radiohead? And you did
like that whole like Mason, I'm in a wonderment kind
of like face, which I love because it's it's it's
very nostalgic for me, and I still get to see
it every once in a while and you're like, You're like,
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this is this is actually really good? This is really
really good.
Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
It made me.
Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I didn't realize that Radiohead was anything beyond creep, so
uh yeah, I immediately gotten to Radiohead. I was going
through like some girl issues in college and I just
would listen to this album all the time. And here
I am.
Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Now now that was a big college one for me too.
Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Now I'm like, now Kida is just one of the
I think truly a perfect album.
Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah. I think it's their only full like no killer
or all killer, no filler album. I think there's a
lot of skippable stuff on most of their other albums.
Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Yeah, personally, I agree. Well, I think I was.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
I say they were, I was gonna bring them upybe.
When you're talking about the Beatles like they're I think
they're kind of in the same place, like where there's
they're just so experimental and so influential, but like so
like there's hits and misses from Police for me, Sue
Poun Stevens kind of the same, deals are just too long.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Yeah, I think I think kid A and In Rainbows
are both two records that there's no skips on it, right,
there's it's all killer.
Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
No filler, And I don't love the middle of End
Rainbows as much, like kind of after the first couple
of tracks and then until.
Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Reckoner, Oh I Got You, I Got You, but and.
Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Yeah, okay, Computer's up there too, But yeah, nothing an
album with fit or happier is not a perfect album.
Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. What's interesting is my college
my final year of throwing for for STSU in track
go to warm up song was always uh, everything in
its right place, and that there's something about that warbly
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kind of not synth. What is it.
Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
We're not really the Ons. It's like the Os Martineau
or something like that. It's like some weird yeah yeah,
Johnny Green played It's some weird like thing that breaks
down all the time and they try to use it live. Yeah, whatever,
different song too. There's a lot of weird stuff on
that album.
Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I can't remember the name of what it is. But
for some reason, that always put me in like the
perfect groove for like for like getting warmed up in
it like always raised my testosterone or something. I don't know.
It got me going, got me ready to compete. Which
is the weirdest song to.
Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Get warmed thunder understruck.
Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Well, actually, you know what's funny. We had a we
had a track meet yesterday and one of my high
schoolers was literally listening to the Chicago Musical soundtrack when
they were when they were warming up, I was like,
you're my kind of person, not the.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Band Chicago I'd be. I'd be just giving some like
Saturday in the Park or something.
Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
You had to come in.
Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
There's some four Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah, I've sang that at karaoke a few times and
I had all the fifty and sixty old women saying,
oh my gosh, it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
A mash up with did you a mash up with?
Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Green Day? What's the one long which what song? What's
the green Day song that's like the same thing as
twenty five or six Zeppe one? There's a load zeppein
song too, Like I don't know how many more times
I think.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, there there's a there is a led Zeppelin song
that doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
It's how many more times I think it's it's on
the first album.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah anyway, Yeah, all right, Ryan, you're up.
Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Yeah, yeah, kid. It was definitely what I was thinking
about including too, but it's probably my top ten. So
let's see. Last one is some what I've heard about.
I think you're reginly NPR like on all songs considered
her else one of their podcasts or something.
Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
But hold up, Ryan, you listen to NPR.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Not much anymore. But I don't know that was like
I think that the do like a year end thing
of like the best music of the year. I like
a new music a lot, I don't. Yeah, especially here
in the twenty tents, I was not listening to a
lot of heavy music besides maybe deaf Evan and like
Converge got to them in the twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
They allow MPR in South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yeah, yeah, I thought I thought Christian Noan blocked it
when she was governor.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
No, she was busy out like flying everywhere more money.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
She was busy sending the National Guard to the border.
Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
She's just making sure that they are all dogs to
the yard.
Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yeah, gouterans goodrans Christinam. Anyway, that's one good thing that
came out of November.
Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
All right, hey, real quick, just so all our listeners know,
my my Sunday school teacher growing up is now the
Secretary of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Yeah, rocking the fifty Grand Rolix's Salvador.
Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
I mean I feel like there's more stories to be
named here. Like you literally had me convinced that I
was going to go to USF because you know the
story Colin, because of that buffet and south and Sioux Falls.
Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
I just I just want you to say it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
No, no, you know you as wipe Okay wrote, Really
that's my great this is my greatest claim to fame.
Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Really quick story, really really quick story. We were at
the Royal Fork Buffet in soup Ball, South Dakota, where
they have liver and onions on the uh on on
the you know, the the warmer.
Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Tragically they used to they don't, they.
Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Don't, they don't exist anymore. I I still have a
bumper sticker that says I love Royal Fork Buffet. And
uh there was Mason was, you know, wearing a Chariot
T shirt and.
Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I was like a sophomore.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I think, yeah, I think you're a sophomore. And this
we had a waitress that came over and she gave
us our sodas and Mason like got up to go
to the bathroom or something, I don't remember exactly, and
we were talking to the waitress and then she left
when Mason came back, and uh, I said, dude, Mason,
guess what this girl is all about you? Because she
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thinks you're really cute and you're wearing a Chariot T
shirt and she's a massive Chariot fan man. And he's like, really,
are you serious? Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Oh my gosh, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
She's like, she's like the one from me. I'm going
to USF because she goes to USF. Right, because we
were talking about how she goes to USF, which is
University of Two Falls Christian Christian college, private school, go
kog and May. We had Mason on this track for
I don't know an hour at least.
Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Girl had never been interested in me before.
Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Yeah, and and I was like, dude, you should go
get her number and all this stuff, and uh yeah.
We ended up having to like let him know, let
him out easy that you know, this wasn't actually no.
Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Do you remember how you guys told me?
Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
I don't remember what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
So finally we leave the restaurant. I'm like fully convinced
this girl is like into me. We get into the
car and calling and our friend they're like, they still
keep going with the gag, and at some point they're like,
we got her number, like she she like gave us
her number to give to you, and they like pull
(01:24:05):
out this napkin and I'm like, oh my god, I'm
gonna get this girl's number. And they give me this
napkin and instead of her number, it says gotcha, and
I like, my heart's sank my heart.
Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Mason. I'm so sorry, man, we were dicks.
Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
We were the same guy that stole my under OCD too,
But I did you.
Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Know I am the best and the worst friend at
the exact same time. Mason and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
But also, yeah, lucky I let you on my podcast.
Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
He's loved you at your worst color.
Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Oh my gosh, this is when we're friends.
Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
This is good all right.
Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Anyway, So yeah, back in my post office days when
I was looking for ending to listen to, when I
was deliver mail esecial at the end of the year,
when it was some crazy days, they were talking about
I think the previous album before this one by Angel Olsen,
this guy right here, this is the album afterwards called
My Woman and let me put my notes here. But yeah,
there's some really good like grungey guitar stuff on the
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one before that. I came remember what it's called. I
think it's Burned Your Fire for No Witness if I recall.
But this one's pretty instrumentally, it's pretty cool. It's all
over the place. There's like some since on the first track.
I think that was the first track that released for
it when it came out, and I remember just playing
that over and over again. It's called intern And then
she did some visios that were pretty cool too for
this album as well. And yeah, so like the closer
(01:25:37):
around this one is just kind of a piano outro,
like just kind of like piano and vocals. It's really haunting.
Track two is like kind of like a Phil Spector
like Wallace sound vibe. It's kind of like those girl
groups from like the sixties. That's pretty fun one too,
But the big one for me on this album, for sure,
is a song called Sister. It's right in the middle.
It's like an eight minute song that's kind of a
vibe and kind of Yeah, it's like a good fall
Asleep album, I think for sure too. I've done that
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a lot of the time. But whatever thought they have. Yeah,
there's a lot of like morose, kind of like suggestive
even like some horny lyrics, especially on the song it's
probably the most well known from this album it's called
Shut Up Kiss Me. I think that was probably the
big one.
Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
For girls that are going to us AFT that are
really into the Chariot.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Got You Bitch.
Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Yeah, it's a lot of nostalgie, a lot of wistful feelings. Yeah,
some great work especially too on Woman. Yeah, some good
guitar work. I don't know what her band's like. I
think she's got a pretty good crew of people, but yeah,
I haven't seen her live. I'd really She's definitely on
my bucket list to see live.
Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
How did you How did you come across Angelolson? I've
never heard.
Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Yeah, I think I heard. I think I heard about
her on like the they have, like the last they have,
like the Bob Boylan that had like the tiny Dust
concerts back in the day. I think he's retired now,
but he would. They'd have people different on, like Lars
Gotrick that's been at Furnace Best. I think he would
be on that show then sometimes too, so.
Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Like right after Nancy Pelos, who was talking or something.
Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
This is a podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Oh gosh, but no.
Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
I was in Washington, d c H. I don't know,
five ten years ago and I toured the MPR studios.
I got to I got to see the tiny desk,
so it was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Is it actually tiny or is it pretty big?
Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
It's pretty big. It's got a lot of crap that
saw Emmy. I think he has like a Semmy just
laying around with everything else too. And I think there
was like a there was a like a Fuji water
bottle that a Della drink out.
Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Still so but it's a tiny foot crutch.
Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Yeah, but yeah, great lyrics, great, great variety of musical
genres on this one. Check it out.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna check it out. Yeah, that sounds like
a good record. All right, Jim, what.
Speaker 7 (01:27:49):
Would you say if I told you a thousand Foot
Crutches first album. I'm not going to tell you that,
but what would you say if I did?
Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I just watched video.
Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
It's your LISTO.
Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I just watched a video of what a thousand foot
Crutches first like live performances, and uh, I did not
know that they went so full corn. Yeah, like they
even had like field be's, like like super loose string
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bass and everything like that.
Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
It was nuts that there's some really good stuff on
their first album. There is also some really not very
good stuff on their first.
Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
That's why it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
The first. Yeah, the first Tooth and ALBC solid state
band I ever saw. I was probably a mixture of them.
And I think it was like FM Static and Falling
Up and it was in Brookings. Oh did you see
that same tour? Yeah, because f M Static and was
the same band as another band it's Falling Up. I
think it's Crutch.
Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
It was, Yeah, it was Trevor and Steve from that
was for Crutch, Yeah, Swift Bokings.
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
All I remember about f M Static was I saw
their album cover and it was a dude with a
half blonde, half black colored mohawk, and I was like,
this ain't for me. I'm out.
Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
You weren't cool enough.
Speaker 6 (01:29:26):
The film was I loved FM Static too, but at
the like he sang songs about like teenage angst and
he was in his thirties, I think with their last
album and that got a little a little corporate.
Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
I mean, I remember seeing MxPx at Life Flight like
whatever in the two thousands and thinking, like, these guys
are like, you know, in the thirties were talk about
high school and whatever, and yeah, I'm having a great
time listening to all these songs from going to the
Buffalo and life in general, and like even now that
they're in their fifties and talking about high school.
Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Still at that exact same show, Ryan, I threw a
piece of pizza at the bassis and it hit his bass.
I nailed it, and he played the bassis. I literally
played the bass with m xp X while they're going.
Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Live with Tom Tom the basis. I think Sure.
Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Is one of the touring members of I should be
on the Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I really should be on the Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
I'll go I forgot. Sorry. Also concert Culis was the
band was the headliner. I forgot about Culis the headliner.
Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
The biggest.
Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
Culis was the biggest band of juice Bags.
Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Ever, how could they not be? Like the names a giveaway?
Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You must be a forward guy, huh okay?
Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
Like my actual third is a tie between two, all right,
and I'll tell you the first one and then it's
not actually gonna be that one. One is five on
Frenzy to Electric Boogaloo.
Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
I think it's their best album that they ever did
is in terms of consistency. But I can't say it's
actually perfect album because if Reese even cared to hear this,
he would be like, nothing we've done is ever perfect.
It's terrible and horrible, and I would agree, even though
I love it, but not really. I love it, but
it's not terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
No.
Speaker 7 (01:31:31):
Actually, I think it's probably what I mentioned earlier, failure.
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
You're on, my beloved.
Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
It's just again, it's one I could sit down, like
you know, calling, like you were saying, like I could
sit down and listen to that, and half said down
listen to it until my wife's like, turn that off.
Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Turn it off.
Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
It's like the fifth time you've listened to it. I'm like,
but it's just perfect. Just one of those albums where
you just keep going. I think it's probably when I
first heard it, Like it's probably the first album where
I was like, wait, you can like do like radically
different like sections and songs and somehow you're like foreshadowing
(01:32:13):
it earlier in the thing. It was just like, like
it just stands up. I mean there's a lot of
there's a lot of music, a lot of post hardcore
emo music from the time when that came out that
like does not stand up right. That is very formulaic,
and somehow even though they I don't know like maybe
they did, maybe they didn't, but definitely in like North Carolina,
(01:32:36):
South Carolina up in West virginu where I'm from originally,
like North Carolina was where we went to hear music,
and like they were creating something that was specific to
this part of the country, and it was I was
really sad that they only ever did one album because
it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Unbelieva in the Day that the Traders is still my
favorite song of all time. Yeah, just it has everything
I love in music. It's got great emo stuff, it's
got all the hardcore stuff, and at the very end
you got this really cool like post or like post
rock kind of thing going on.
Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
So just like it literally to me, is like a
perfect song.
Speaker 7 (01:33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Did you get to see them live back in the
day or at Turns Fest twenty one?
Speaker 7 (01:33:21):
I did get to see him in first at First
Fest because I got COVID the week of oh Man. Yeah,
but because I live in South Carolina, I just went
up to the hometown shows and caught the second one
and it was amazing. Code seven was amazing. It was
just like amazing. That was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Yeah. I think a lot of the Runian bands have
done that to kind of warm up or to kind
of like while we're while we're doing this, m as
well do some other stuff too, I think like training
free and.
Speaker 7 (01:33:46):
Yeah, they did it after forest Fest, which was amazing.
So they were like whatever kinks they had to work out,
they were gone because it was perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Nobody wants to work out their kinks, we don't, king shame.
Speaker 7 (01:34:00):
Shake the dust off the kinkes.
Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
There you go, there you good good calls? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Is it? David that's next, David.
Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
David Dog, That's okay.
Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
So I had a really hard time picking a third one.
But if I would like gun to my head, if
I had to pick something and someone's like, pick your.
Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Third what, yeah, can you?
Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
I would say drunk like Bible Times, buy Deer in
the Headlights and Deer in the Headlights. Sorry, have any
of you guys heard of them?
Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
Incredible? Absolutely amazing. That's exactly my point. Everyone shook their head.
Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
The band is called Bible Times, No, so.
Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
The album is drunk like Bible Times, and then yeah,
and the band is Deer and the Headlight. They're from
Arizona and they did two records. If you go and
look them up on Spotify, they have sixty thousand monthly listeners,
which devastates me because like that's a good chunk of people.
And yeah, the singer just like quit at one point
(01:35:16):
to go like we're at Trader Joe's and sort out
his demons, and like, now I don't know that he
does music at all, but it's just I think there's
a tie in with like my other like records, is
that it's just very human, Like he's just really good
at storytelling, just talks about like life and like love
and just like just every day normal things like he
(01:35:41):
a lot will like mention like friends' names, which has
always been like super intriguing to me. Like I feel
like it's kind of like what you said, where it
almost like colon ward almost like breaks the fourth wall
where I'm like, you're not supposed to be like directly
like talking to like a person that we don't know,
but like they're telling like a beautiful story that like
(01:36:01):
just sounds great.
Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
And like there's something relatable about it.
Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
I think about like Fallout Boy, like in their one
of their first albums.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Out of that song that's just like hey, Chris, we.
Speaker 5 (01:36:10):
Love you back, like you were our only friend, and
that's just like the chorus over and over and you're like,
who the fuck is Chris, But it's still just like
amazing because they again just like kind of broke that
fourth wall. So yeah, that's that's what I love about You.
In the Headlights only did two records, I think in
two thousand and seven and then in two thousand and eight,
so it was like back to back and then they
(01:36:33):
just like they got like kind of popular and they
just fell off the face of the earth. Never did reunions,
like literally never did like anything other than they released
a double vinyl maybe like five or six years ago
and I bought it, but on that just silence, okay.
And so the other thing I would say is their
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first album is really good, the one that came out
in two thousand and seven. But the reason I didn't
pick that one was because it has some like slower songs,
whereas like Drunk by Bible, Drunk like Bible Times like
the second album like it's just like constant constant punch.
Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
So yeah, really really good. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Oh, they're guitarist. They're guitarist is known for voicing the
character Plucky, which is Ducky's little sister, in the animated
film The Land Before Time. So the guitarist was the
voice for Plucky Amazing and Land Before Time.
Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
I whoa I want oh calling your You're silent, you're
a mute, You're avoid amazing two two quick things is one.
I would love if you found some members from this
(01:37:50):
band and interviewed them aka the singer. But I'll take
anyone because I just don't understand, like some of these
songs have over a million plays, like in literally like
the singer I don't know what he's doing now, but
for like several years just like went and worked to
Trader Joe's, which again like nothing above that, but it's
just like mind boggling. And then the other thing that
(01:38:10):
I was going to say is nothing to do with music.
Is I've been wondering this whole time, Mason, what are
you drinking?
Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I keep seing your cup.
Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
And I'm usually boxed wine. They boxed wine today.
Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
No, it's some sort of orange liqueur and salter water.
Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Okay, cool, all right, I'm totally in. I gotta check
these guys out. This sounds amazing. Also, fantastic band name
drunk like Bible Times.
Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Album name, album name.
Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Oh that's the album name. What's the what's.
Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
The Deer in the Headlights?
Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Oh, Deer in the Headlights is the name of the band? Okay,
I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
That's a great name. Note too, it is, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
It is.
Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
I'm putting an album in the chat there.
Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
I love it, all right, Kayley, all right.
Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
The third one is so hard because there's so many
bands are albums to put higher, Like my Chemical Romance's
Black Parade should be there, but they have a hidden
track so apparently. Yeah, So what I'm going with is
(01:39:17):
a band that I think that we all like h
and they started strong, did okay, they peaked and then
they've I don't know what they've done since. But no
more under Oath albums come on now, No, not under Oath.
Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
I was gonna say, please, don't say under Oath, or
I'm just gonna leave.
Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Like under Oath, under Oath doesn't have a perfect album. Sorry,
that will probably not that will probably get me not
invited back. But yeah, Emory's Emory has a perfect album.
We do what we want and that's that's their best album.
(01:40:00):
It has given me like a big response right here.
Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I agree. I think it is their best album too,
and it's one of personal album.
Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
Yeah, it's it's so good. It starts off heavy, it
does their classic like screaming and soft singing and songs.
It has an amazing it has an amazing ending that
is it's a tear jerker. It's just it's it's good
all around. It's everything that you like about Emory finally
(01:40:30):
put into one album and then they never do that again.
Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
It was like the only one without Devin, right.
Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
Yeah, it was about Devon.
Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
Yeah, which is kind of funny. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
It's interesting because I would actually say that the one
that's probably closer to perfect is in Shallow Seas We Sail.
But I do think that We Do What we Want
is the most influential one, mainly because they broke a
whole bunch of barriers, and I don't think I think
(01:41:05):
hindsight being twenty twenty, a lot of us maybe forget
about this. But they put the Bible on the front
and it said we do what we want, and they
cussed on that album, and they went extra heavy, especially
with like scissors and stuff like that, and people were
(01:41:25):
really really turned off by that album, and they burned
a ton of bridges with a lot of their listeners.
And that's why I love it so much.
Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
It's honestly a great album. And the music. The music's good,
the songwriting is good. But also, like so many bands do,
tend to get softer, and it kind of seemed like
that they were, and then they just come back and
(01:41:58):
start with the shoveled us and it's just right there,
like it's so part of part of the perfectness is
the fact that they have a longer history and to
just start off super hard, like giving you almost that
reminiscent of the first time you listen to the Weeks
and Whenever Walls starts where it's just right in your
(01:42:22):
face and then it backs off. It's amazing album. It's
it's it's a great album, and I don't think that
there's any song on there that that falls flat.
Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
In Shallow Seas is great, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
I think in Shallow Seas We Sail is fantastic, especially lyrically.
I think that's like one of their strongest. But the
punches that they were willing to not pull for We
Do what we Want is I think to this day
it's one of the most groundbreaking Christian albums out there
(01:42:58):
because it really did. They proved exactly what the album
cover said, we do what we Want.
Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Wasn't it wasn't it like literally the next album they
had The Woman that was like naked. Yeah, even that one, even.
Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
You're Never Alone was in between.
Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
That record is fantastic too. That one's like all like
Bible stories but from like a modern perspective that was
That was a fantastic album too. But yeah, they had
a good they had a good string of three there
that I think We're.
Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Top notch rest in Peace, Christian.
Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
That was a very good record. That that's their that's
their strongest of the most recent three, I think for sure.
So all right, final one. I'll finish this off here.
Norma Jean the Anti Mother. I think that this record
is Norma Jean's most perfect record. It's not my favorite.
(01:43:57):
Mason thinks I hate it, which is hilarious because I
said that when it first came out, I was a
little skeptical on.
Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
It, but the finisher.
Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I hated the Finisher initially, and then as time went
on I loved it more and more and more and more.
But it was only because they did the B swarm
sound for a little too long, you know. But that's
one that has a hidden track that actually is a
real track, you know. It's it's it's it's a good one.
(01:44:29):
It's a great one, and it's right at the end
of that B swarm, which is fantastic. What I love
about it most is that they they went all over
the place. I mean, you had China Moreno with heavy influence.
You had three fold guitars really really dialing it in,
and you have the guitarist from Helmet Peyte Hamilton, who
(01:44:52):
is known for pretty much creating like the perfect guitar sound,
like the perfect guitar tone, I should say, uh. And
his influence is obvious on this record too, because he
was pretty influential and he was in the studio with
it as well. The record just it it doesn't let up.
(01:45:13):
It feels less heavy than the refluence is obvious on
this record too because he was pretty also heavier at
the same time. It is. It's an enigma. But what's
wild though, is it's it's one of those records where
you kind of forget just how good every song is
on there, and they never play hardly any songs from
(01:45:34):
that record live.
Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Yeah, what do you all want to plug?
Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Yeah, I mean we had an announcement for like a
company that I'm working on. Uh my mom isn't gonna
be a big fan of this, but I've been working
on flavored herbies cream so you can use it with
your partner in bed. You cover up like the illness
and it makes it more like palatable and approachable. And
(01:45:59):
I've got I've got investors, Jeff Bezos is backing it.
We're getting we're getting Tiger King to do the marketing
and the commercial, it's gonna be really incredible, Like we
what'd you say, Yeah, in prison, but like there's a
really like high rate of herpes right now, especially in
the prison system, so we figured we'd start there, like
(01:46:20):
we want everyone to be able to use this nursing
homes or you're like, yeah, that's gonna be the next one,
but I need to find a famous person.
Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
In a nursing home.
Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Yes, so if any of you guys would like to
try it, write some reviews.
Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
There's a bunch of different flavors.
Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
We've got cherry bubble gum.
Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
I thought it was I thought it tasted like herpes.
Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
No, no, no, no, no no. It's meant to make the
herpes palatable, so you can still.
Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
You said you said herpes flavored. I thought it.
Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
Sorry flavored herpe stream.
Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
That's what I was wondering.
Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
I don't know because I use the cream and so
when I'm with my partners who have herpes.
Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
We had a little sourdough bread that's a little too sour.
Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
What'd you say?
Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
We're had a little sour dough bread that's a little
too sour?
Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
Yes, is that is that what it tastes like? You
don't use my cream. Maybe amazing.
Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
I want to have five to different five to ten
different flavors altogether.
Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Now we're talking, well, it sounds like your market would
be perfect for Joe Rogan listeners.
Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Yeah, I'm I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
I think that, like after after the first quarter of sales,
after we're able to analyze everything, we should be able
to have a bigger budget, and we should be able
to get a commercial on his show.
Speaker 6 (01:47:52):
I don't I feel as if plugging anything after Uh, after.
Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
That, you better start creaking things after that.
Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
Yeah. Anyways, Uh, if you want to find more of
me on the internet and not related to herpes cream,
god damn. Yeah, so it is.
Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
I know it is.
Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
You can experience ka goddamn.
Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
It's actually laughter, Like I'm so excited that there there is,
finally is a treatment to help those who just can't
work with the taste of herpes. So this is just
(01:48:54):
this is excitement. Yeah. I do theology and trans stuff
online and I am currently writing a commentary on the
Book of Matthew while also doing all kinds of other
writing and video stuff all through the Center for Perfect Imagination.
(01:49:16):
So if you search up prophetic imagination on all social medias,
you'll find it. The characters are too long because some
that's like eighteen characters and a lot of some social
media only let's say you're fifteen. Then it's prophetic image
and then you'll find it there. Their biggest thing is Substack.
Go subscribe and follow us there because we're putting out
(01:49:37):
a lot of good stuff for like fighting.
Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
What do you all do on stack? Was that?
Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
What do you do?
Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
There's a reason why we're on substack, not not dom Stack.
Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
Oh, that one's for the Christian Nationalists.
Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Speaking of Timothy, Timothy, tim what do you want to
what do you want to plug?
Speaker 7 (01:50:05):
Yeah, so I mentioned I'm a licensed professional counselor. I
work for myself, which is great. I'm only licensed in
South Carolina to provide mental health counseling, so I work.
I have specialize in working with people dealing with anxiety, trauma, stress.
I also specialize in working with people from the l
g B, t q I A plus community. So and
(01:50:28):
I do fully telehealth. So if you live in South Carolina,
where you're in South Carolina, I can work with you
with counseling. I also do executive coaching, so if you
do business stuff, I can help you do your business
stuff and it's not mental health stuff. But you can
reach me here at www dot Good Council. That's g
(01:50:51):
o O. D ecouncil dot com. So that's my blurb.
Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
And all two of the South Carolina people that need
mental health therapy, all two well that listen to us
at least oh.
Speaker 7 (01:51:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha, I see, I see.
Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Thank you all for sharing your perfect albums, incredible albums.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised that most of them I've actually heard,
and all of the albums that I do know that
you all mentioned are incredible albums. So if there are
any albums that you all haven't listened to that we're mentioned,
you have to go check them out. There's unbelievable albums.
(01:51:37):
And so thank you all for joining us incredible albums,
and it's always fun to just talk about some of
the music that has shaped who we are and why
we are the way we are. So thank you so much.