Jeremy Edwardson and Scott Davis: The Myriad

Cullen and Mason chat with Jeremy and Scott from The Myriad. They chat about the tragic history of the band, their new music, and much more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:22):
To your love lost.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Today, we've got two members of the Myriad with us.
We've got Jeremy and Scott, and I'm just super stoked
to chat with both of you. You know, Colin, I
know you're especially a huge Myriad fan, Like I certainly
listen to you all a little bit back in those
like mid to late two thousands, but Culin, you are
like I mean, I feel like you're one of the

(00:50):
bigger Myriad fans out there, right.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, I love them. So happy to have you guys
on been You guys have been a band I never
would have expect to come back from from from the ether.
It's great. It's great seeing you guys making music again,
because man, I don't know if there's a lot of
bands that have had such a great, like two full

(01:15):
album run, like just of every song being an absolute
masterpiece in my opinion, it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you, it's great. Yeah. We took a little bit, yeah,
a little bit, a little bit of.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Just a tad well before we dive into the whole
history of the Myriad, which to me is kind of
an actually really interesting history. Uh yeah, Just how are
you guys doing today? I love to hear from both.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Of you doing good. We're here in my studio and.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
We actually studio set up.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You've got by the way, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
How long have you been in this studio have you had?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I should say I built the soundhouse here in Reading
in two thousand and nine, so I've been here for
how many years?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Is that like six teen years or.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Something, and then been producing music since the late nineties.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
So yeah, yeah, you've got quite the uh, quite the
rap sheet of artists that have come through there.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Here we've done a lot of the worship stuff, a
couple carry Job albums, Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, all the
Jesus culture stuff, a few best stuff Mom loves.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, like a Hillsong album too.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Before right, I did a song for hill Songs like
oh they did it? So yeah, yeah, but they've been here.
I think Joel came by. It was kind of funny
because Drowning Pool was here. They were on they were
on tour with Motley Crue and they called their manager
called me that morning and said, is your studio available

(02:50):
because the band has a new song they're on tour
they want to rehearse it. I said sure. I didn't
even know who it was. Drowning Pool starts loading in
and I have them all set up, and then Hillsong
shows up because they happen to be in town, and
I think Joel texted and said, hey, can we stop
by and.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
See your space?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I said sure, So Joel and the band are walking
in and I said, there's I didn't know this earlier
when I said you guys could come by, but now
there's a band here, but you can come in and
just kind of peek. And he his ears perked up
and he couldn't even see them because he wasn't in
front of the glass yet to see into the room,
but his ears perked up just from the sound of

(03:30):
the guitars and the singer, and he goes.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
What is it is that drowning pool?

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Like like he must have been a fan or something.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
And then he's just like, let the bodies hit the
book let, the whole the whole band like freaked out.
They're like, it's drowning pool and it was fun.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's not how I expected that would have gone. I
would have thought it would have been like, I don't
know if you guys remember like the Old the Old
Church have it in Hell's Skit that they.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Would do like every year.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh I first heard that song.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I think I heard first heard it from like there
was a video of this charismatic preacher anything.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's how That's how I first Yeah, he
was like doing the like hole where you like the
whole room fell over.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It was just that the bodies hit the so good.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was the first time I had heard that heard
that song. But you heard it here first, folks, Hillsong
Drowning Pool fans. That's I would have never guessed that
from any of it. I mean, I know that there's
a lot of people, a lot of members of Hillsong,
so you know, the chances aren't just like you know,
it's not like you only got a pool of like
four people. There's like what forty people in Hillsong something

(04:42):
like that. But the fact that any one of the
members of Hillsong is even aware of Drowning Pool is
actually kind of impressive.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, for sure, it is.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
What cool story. Well, let's talk about just how you
guys got involved, you know, starting doing myriad. I'm guessing
both of you because it seems like, if I remember right,
it wasn't like a band that you all started like
right out of high school, Like it seemed like you
guys were maybe a little bit more seasoned veterans at
that point by the time you started the band. So yeah,
I'd love to just kind of hear how the Myriad

(05:16):
just yeah, got got started.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
We kind of started right at the tail end of college,
at least for me. I was studying psychology and playing
in a local ska band. And actually Scott was in
a local ska band too where it starts, and we
would do shows together and stuff. But we were in
like we were both singers of like rival ska bands
in town.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
What were the what was the name of your ska bands?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was in a band called Whistletoe.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Bandits what the buckeroo bandits buck actually.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Sounds like what my dad would have called my brothers and.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
I exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Something like that.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
So we there was one point in the Myriad where
I wasn't listening to any ska anymore, and I was
just very deep into like bands.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Like Radiohead and.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
And I wrote a song that was more in that
kind of vein and and I just remember the horn
players when I first introduced the song just on acoustic
said the Myriad whistle t I mean, in my SKA band. Yeah, yeah,
before the Myriad. So I showed the band and and
the horn players, the trumpet and the saxophone and the

(06:39):
trombone player just looking at me and they just know
what's coming.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
They said, what what? What would you like us to play?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
And I was like, I think you're gonna sit this
one out nothing, and they.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Were just bummed.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
We played a show that night and that was the
song that I loved, and the rest of the guys
were like, yeah, that's where we're going. So we said,
let's just start a new band.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So the horn.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Players were out and we at that point needed a drummer,
and so I went to Scott and I said, hey,
do you want to play with our a new band
we're going to start.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
We're all moving to Seattle.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
At the time, we were all living in Redding, California,
and I just asked Scott, do you want to like
learn drums?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Real He kind of played on the drums but not
real serious.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I said, do you want to actually like move with
us to Seattle and play drums in the band? And
he was like, let's do it. So that was was
that two thousand, two thousand.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah, we started in Seattle. In two thousand and one,
like around I think it's when we got out. There
was August two thousand and one. But yeah, like you said,
you know, I always jumped on the drums when I
had an opportunity after like rehearsals or whatever, and I
ended up playing a live show. I played one song
for my friend's band. Uh, just kind of came up
on the drums, and Jeremy and our old bass player

(07:58):
John Schofield were both there and they saw me play
and they're like, oh, he can play. We should ask
him to come along. So that was that we like
broke our bands up and we're like, let's go start
this thing in Seattle. Enough of this sca stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, that feels that's gonna be a little scary to
not only like break up your bands that you had
in California, but then it's like we're gonna move to
an entirely different state and then start a new band
where you don't probably know too many people. So yeah,
that's it's gotta be a little Yeah, it just gotta
be a little kind of I don't know, scary to

(08:32):
do something like that.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, it felt like because we had each other this
like band of brothers going on an adventure. We had
you know, one goal in mine to change the world
through music, you know, and so there it was kind
of like a put all of our eggs in one
basket and go and you know, look for jobs.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So we're all just kind of doing odd jobs up there.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I remember at one point I was servicing atm Machines.
So I'd get up at like five in the morning
and drive around following like an armored truck and they'd
get out and hand me like eight hundred thousand dollars
and I'd sign for it, and then myself and my
partner would go load cash into ATMs and then we'd
meet the armored truck at the next stop. And it

(09:18):
was like I did that for a while. Scott was
busting tables or serving. Yeah, we all kind of had
random jobs, but we'd try to, you know, get the
jobs out.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Of the way to make music.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
And that's just we dove in and we were I
think within a year or two, we were booking our
own tours across the states and playing in front of
you know, seven eight people a night and just trying.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
To make it. You know.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
The grind began, and yeah, our first tour. We we
loaded up into the van in Seattle and we started
driving across the US and we were I think we
were in Wyoming.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, Wyoming.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
We were in Wyoming and are whoever was driving, I
think it was our guitar player John he was He
hit black ice and the van and the trailer literally
just started spinning down the main freeway or highway there
and Scott and I we had like taken out the

(10:25):
back few seats of the van and elevated up like
a mattress, and then we put our luggage underneath this
sort of elevated area. Scott and I were both sleeping
on this mattress, and the inertia slammed me against the
window of the van and then Scott's against me. If
the van would have flipped, we were both just gonna

(10:47):
be launched. But thankfully the after several rotations down the freeway,
and at like three or four in the morning, the
back tire of the trailer dug down like two feet
into the earth and that sort of stopped the van
and we came unhitched, and then the trailer just went

(11:08):
just guitar amps, guitar cases just flying all over the freeway.
Just shooting up like they're being fired out of a cannon.
So we we kind of realized what what just happened.
So we're all jumping out of the van, and we
hear these semi trucks like coming down because they're seeing
guitar cases and trying to avoid them.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So we all just.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Start running out onto the freeway and dragging amps and
dragging guitars out of the road. That was like night
one of our very first tour.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
We like, yeah, we hadn't gone to our first show yet.
We were driving out to our first show. We stayed
at my friend's house. I think in Dakota. I'm trying
to think where the states were at, but yeah, we
hadn't got to our first show yet. We were driving
out to the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
We had to start.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
We had to buy a new trailer before we made
it to our first show. And we were like, man,
this this whole band thing is dangerous, Like what are
we doing?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Gosh.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't remember who we were talking to, but they
said that it doesn't matter if you are a touring
musician who drives yourself to every place, It's only a
matter of time before you get into an almost life
threatening accident or a life threatening accident, and you guys
just got it out of the way right away. So

(12:21):
I think you guys did the smart move.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, later we got t boned in New York. We've
had an out down, but no, that was the worst.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That was by far.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Like the very first accident was the one that could
have taken out the whole band.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Right, So you were able to save all of your instruments.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, we all had.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's actually kind of unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
It was we all had these Like I don't know why.
I think we were more prepared than we should have
been because we were heading out to our first show
and it was probably like at a casino, you know,
in front of people, like playing slot machines, like.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
We it was.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
But but for some reason we were like, we're going
on tour, we need to buy at a certified flight cases.
So we had the most beautiful cases for everything. So
everything was perfectly fine because of the cases.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
I still have a bass drum case that my kick
drum was in and the the lugs from the kick
drum went through the top of a hard shell case,
Like the force was that much. I still have the case.
It like poked a hole with the lugs coming through.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I remember seeing that going that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well that's the very beginning of the myriad. What an
exciting way to start out. Yeah, talk a little bit
about yeah, those maybe first couple of years and that
first album. So that's how I found out about you
all was that first album. I'm a huge Floodgate Records fan.
I grew up in that world of listening to Tooth

(13:55):
and Nail, and then obviously just because I got involved
listening to Tooth and Nail, I eventually got in so
like Militia Group and some of those bands, and then
certainly Floodgate was one of those labels that I got
to know of and became a big fan of a
lot of the bands. So that's how I first heard
about you all. Yeah, talk a little bit about, yeah,
that first album. What was like to be on Floodgate
and all of that.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, So we I think it maybe was like two
thousand and four. We played at Cornerstone Festival and we
were hoping to get signed and it was like that
thing that you that bands do that doesn't ever work,
where you send out like a press packet to every label. Yeah,

(14:38):
you find out later that they throw them away and
that kind of thing. But back then it was like, dude,
this is we got to do an eight by ten photo.
We got to put our cassette in there or whatever
CD burn and then we'll get signed. And so we
sent it out to Tooth and Nail and to Militia
Group and to Floodgate. And right about a week before

(15:00):
we went to Cornerstone, I got a call from this girl, Sarah,
who worked at Floodgate, and she was like, I just
got your your press packet and I was listening to music.
I really like it, and I'm gonna bring my boss
Tim Tabor to your show because we're all going to Cornerstone.
And I was just like, I called the guys, guys, we're.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Gonna make it. You know, we're getting signed.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
But we weren't sure if he was gonna show up
at our show. But at that point we were friends
with Christian from Amberlin and Aaron from Copeland and they
actually saw Tabor and they brought us up and basically said,
come with us. We're going to the Myriad show over
at that tent or whatever. So Taber's like, oh yeah,

(15:44):
my assistant, Sarah told me about them, and they just
sent me a press packet or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
So he comes over to the show.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
And then afterwards he came up to me and just said, hey,
can I buy you guys a drink? And over at
the Limit stand and we went over there and he
bought us all lemonade.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I think you remember that.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't remember that, and remember the drink.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Were sitting around this on a at a picnic table
there at Cornerstone and he's like, I want to sign
you guys to my label. And it was like the
that thing you do moment where we're like, there's a
guy and he's in a van and he wants is
we're all signing right now? So we basically signed and
then we did our first album, you Can't Trust a Ladder.

(16:31):
It was produced by Aaron marsh Copeland. Yeah, of course,
and that came out, I believe in like two thousand
and five, and we started touring at that point, sometimes
with label mate bands and yeah, I mean that was
kind of like the start of like what we felt

(16:54):
like it was more legit tours. It wasn't we're calling
clubs and seeing if we can play it fifty cent
PBR night on Wednesday or whatever. But it was kind
of the start of like what felt like legitimate tours
with bands that we loved, and eventually we Tim upstreamed

(17:14):
us to we ended up signing to Cotch Records. That
was kind of a long journey. It was crazy because
at what one point we were like flying to New
York and meeting with Matt Penfield who used to run
like Headbanger's Ball on MTV, and like we showcased for

(17:35):
Columbia and Atlantic and all these different labels, and at
one point we were talking to Tooth and Nail. We
flew to their offices, Brandon flew down to a show
a House of Blues Anaheim, and we were kind of
trying to decide what direction we wanted to go because
there was a few labels that were offering to basically

(17:57):
buy our contract from Tim and upstream Us and whatever.
And out of nowhere, this label came called Cotch Koch Records.
We didn't know who they were, but apparently they were
like one of the biggest indie labels in the world.
They had like Snoop Dogg and Shinead O'Connor and just
kind of a really random roster and so in the

(18:21):
first phone call with the president of the label, I
just told him, Man, to be honest, I've just never
heard of Cotch.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm not really interested.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
And he's like, okay, And so we got off the
call and then I got a call back that I
really pissed him off, and he doesn't take no for
an answer and he wants to talk again Monday. So
we got back on the phone Monday. He basically offered
us a lot of money to sign with them, And

(18:49):
it wasn't just like money in our pocket. It was like,
we're gonna you guys can do your record wherever you want.
We'll fly you tot Abbey Roads Studios to have it
mastered and damn anybody you want to mix it, and
we'll buy you guys equipment. And so they kind of
wind and dined us a little bit. We ended up
signing with them. Yeah, and that was like that was

(19:12):
our second record with Theirs, with Poise that came out
in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Did you did you feel like this was like a
train that wasn't going to be stopped, because I mean,
you guys, you guys did have a sound that was
not It definitely wasn't going to stay in like the
mold of like the Christian scene. I think I think
that you guys sold very well in that scene, but
I think you guys certainly had.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
A broader appeal.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I mean, you guys were on EMPTV a whole bunch.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And you know it.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
It's it is kind of a strange story in comparison
to a lot of you know, what you would generally
consider your peers. Did it feel like a train that
wasn't going to be stopped, like it was just gonna
keep chugging along.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I mean, and in the middle of it, especially
in two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight,
it was one of those moments in life where you
can't actually picture an end to it, and you maybe
think about how would this ever possibly end? And it
felt like it wouldn't and it wasn't supposed to. And

(20:20):
even with the MTV thing, I mean, we were we
were on our way to Texas to meet with David
Crowder who we were going out on tour with him
and Phil Wickham for two and a half months, and
we get a call from MTV Studios and they're like, congratulations,
you're one of twelve bands out of four thousand bands
that are producers at MTV selected to be a part

(20:43):
of this national competition. It's called it's a search for
the next breakout band, and so it was like, how
did we get involved in this in the first place?
And they're like, you guys signed up at the website
and our guitar players like, I thought that was like
the next MySpace, like MTV's version of like MySpace or Facebook,
and they're like, no, it's like a competition thing. So

(21:04):
that was super random. And then even how we got
that call was crazy because we were in the middle
of the desert and the rules of the game were
they call the top twelve twice and if they don't
pick up on the second call, they move on to
like ban thirteen fourteen fifteen. So we happened to get
the call even though we were in the middle of

(21:25):
nowhere on the way to Texas, which was kind of crazy,
especially back then with cell reception, Like, we don't even
know how did that happen? But yeah, we ended up
touring for two and a half months with David Crowder
and MTV would fly out to different shows with a
whole film crew and film like commercials with us and

(21:45):
on the tour bus and interview US and these commercials
were playing every night on MTV and fans were calling
in to vote for their favorite band.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
We ended up going to.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
The top six and then the top three flew to
New York in December of two thousand or December of
two thousand and seven, and we ended up winning the
whole thing live in Times Square and it was super crazy, Like.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Pete, when did any of the other bands kind of
really pop off at some point?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I don't know it was them, Like, like.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Are there any other bands that were in this competition that, like,
you know, we would.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Taking back Sunday? Actually? Was it one of those bands
from the years prior?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but not in the year that you
were in.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, there was one band I can't remember what their
name is, but they were like a pop punk band
that was in the top twelve but they didn't make
it past the top six or something, but I think
they ended up becoming huge.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I just can't remember.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Fellow Cards, Yeah, yeah, something like that. But we that
that was wild because after winning that, we had a
number one video on MTV and so the momentum, like
you were asking, like the feel like a train like
of one hundred percent like we were. We spent like

(23:05):
three weeks in Berlin, Germany mixing with one of our
favorite mixed guys, and then we flew to Abbey Road
in London and mastered, and we were We had a
number one video on MTV and four videos on Total
and the the MTV Music Video Awards, like.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
With the popcorn and all that.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
During all those commercials, it was our song that was
playing like sort of in there in the background of
all those and we're on shows like the Real World
and sixteen and Pregnant and so we're it felt like
and you know, as a band, you talk about the grind,
like we spent years playing in front of a dozen

(23:45):
people a night and it was always fun, but it
was hard, and we're not making any money and we're
eating like peanut butter and jelly sandwichs are like tuna
fish out of a can and the and that was
our life for you, And then you finally get to
that point where that point we were on a tour
bus and opening up for big bands and.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Instead for dinner.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, exactly, but it felt like we had finally made
it in a sense.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
At least there was that trajectory.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
And then we were at MTV Studios in two thousand
and eight and we were doing an interview with them,
and at that point, Scott wasn't in the band. Randy
the drummer of the Myriad at that point Scott had
left a few year about.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
A year or two before, a couple of years before that.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
And during the interview, Randy fell and he kind of
like fainted and fell and knocked me over, and then
we all grabbed him, like what just happened? And at
first we thought maybe it was from the lights and
his knees locking or something, but when he came to,
he said he felt like a really intense pain in
his chest.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And we were on.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Tour, i think at that point, with a band called
Isley and Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Eisley and Videra and the
Envy Core and and he he said, he admitted, it's
been bothering me since we started this tour, but I
just didn't want to bring it up. But it it
got really intense and it made me. The pain made
me faint. And he said, We said, well, what is it?

(25:24):
And he said, it's it feels like a lump right here.
And we didn't think too much of it because we.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Just don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
We're not doctors and stuff. But he said, I'm going
to get it checked out when I get home. So
we got done with that tour. About a month later,
it had been growing and he got it checked out
and the doctor said it's probably just a swollen lymph node.
So he gave Randy some pills. Randy took them all summer.
The whole time it continues to grow. But Randy's kind
of a tough guy. He doesn't like doctors and stuff,

(25:52):
so I'm just going to keep taking these pills. Finally,
by I think around August, he went back and he
was a doctor. This isn't getting smaller, and the doctor said, okay,
well I'll just do like outpatient surgery and remove it.
And they put Randy under and then they came out
to his wife halfway through the surgery and they said,
it's a huge black tumor. I can remove it, but

(26:17):
it's probably best for me to just completely remove his
whole arm and upper area because that'd be cleaner. So
she calls me Randy's still out and she's like, Jeremy,
what should I do? You know, You're like Randy's brother
in the band, and I'm like, I know, I can't.
I can't make that decision. What do you think? And

(26:42):
she said, I think they should probably just take it
out and sew him back up, And so I said, yeah,
one hundred percent, Like if Randy wakes up with one arm,
he's gonna be pissed. But so they did that, and
then they did the biopsy and all that, and it
came back that he had a really.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Rare form of bone can answer And.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
We found out a couple of weeks later that he's
got to go into an intense chemo for about a year.
And we had a lot of stuff lined up, a
our you know, the label and manager and everybody called,
you know, it's of course sorry to hear about Randy
and what's the plan, Like are you who's filling in?

(27:23):
And it just felt like we just needed to stop
and be there with Randy during this time, and you know,
he had to go to the hospital for an entire
week every three weeks. We just said let's just cancel
everything because we talked about as a band and we're like,
we're never going to have any regrets about being there

(27:43):
for Randy, and as much as Randy was saying, dude,
you guys have to have someone fill in for me.
We can't stop this momentum. We just knew like there
would be there would always be that thing, like how
did that feel for Randy when we're just like, best
of luck, Bud, We're going to be back in two months,
We're hitting the road again.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
It just felt like the right decision was to be
there with him, And it was just an intense couple
of years battling this and he passed away on November fifth,
twenty ten, so it was just it was really really.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Sad and devastating to all of us.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Randy was he was such a great guy, and he
had a couple young kids and stuff, so it was
just it for me, it just took the wind out
of my sales for wanting to keep going on at
that point. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's
there was so much momento, but it felt like, you know,
a snowball that's got huge, it just hits the brick wall,

(28:46):
and at that point, there's it doesn't you don't want
to keep building that snowball. And it took me quite
a long time. I mean, Randy and I. Even one
of the last conversations we had together before he passed,
he was like, you know, when are you going to
write again? And I told him it's just hard right

(29:07):
now with what's going on with him. And he's like,
well maybe, He's like I want you to write again,
you know, maybe someday you'll write a song about all
this kind of thing and so. And it took a
little over ten years, yeah, to get back to it,
you know, but man, especially.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
We did.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So with that train coming to almost like an immediate halt.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Was there.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I don't know if you would say like feelings of
regrets or anything like that, or or anything like that,
especially since he was talking about O, hey keep going,
keep going. But you're like, no, like this is not
this wasn't in the cards, this wasn't the plan, This
wasn't the way we wanted to do this. Yeah, what's

(30:02):
going through your head that entire time?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Truthfully?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I mean like there's got to be like some feeling
of like, hey, we were on the precipice of the
next level, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
If I searched my heart deeply and I've thought about
this a lot there, I've never once had questions or
regrets or like the what ifs, which is kind of
weird because I think if somebody were to ask me
back then, would you regret just stopping immediately? But for

(30:39):
some reason, it just when Randy got sick, it just
kind of like changed my heart, and I felt.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like it did with the other guys too. It just
didn't feel the same.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Without him, and it felt like peaceful to not keep going,
even though we were in the height of so many
great things. It just felt like a settling. And I
don't know, it sounds weird, but it just never felt
like it was like, what if we would have kept going,
you know, what would have happened. It just didn't feel

(31:12):
like that for any of us.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And there was so much momentum.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Just before it too, so it's such a weird thing.
But yeah, I just think he was and he brought
this older brother thing to all of us. He was
like ten years older, and yeah, he was kind of
a glue at that point, and bands on the road

(31:39):
get real messy, you know, and hard to hang out.
You know, you're stuck in a van together all the time,
and he brought something to it all that. When he
was gone, it was like no, like, we're just gonna
be done. And it was about ten years later that Scott,

(31:59):
who was the drummer of the Myriad, invited me to
we live in the same town now, and he invited
me to a Muse concert. We went together, we actually
brought our daughters together to this Muse concert in Sacramento,
and it was the craziest show I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I've been to a lot of.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Great shows, but this was like they had a like
a flame thrower hooked up to the kick drum somehow.
So when the drummer's like there's like fireballs going over
top of the crowd, Matt Bellamy is like shredding on
the shoulder of like a giant, you.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Know, thing moving behind him. And I'm like, this is
the most insane thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
And my daughter, who was at the time like eleven,
she looks at me and said, Dad, is this how
all rock concerts are.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
I'm like, no, you will never see what like this again.
This is the best. But on the way home, Scott
was talking to me and he said.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Do you ever miss it?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
And I'm like, yeah, like I do, Like tonight I
missed it, you know, there's something about going to a
show where you're just like, I kind of want to
be on stage now, and I do miss those times
walking out and playing. We got to play some of
the coolest venues all over the United States, and I

(33:22):
love that feeling of walking out and sharing music with
a whole room full of people and that excitement that
everybody feels together. And so I told Scott I do
and he said, well, let's let's just write some songs.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
And I that was the first time I felt like, Okay, yeah,
like let's go. And so we started working and here
we are, like, I don't know, a year and a
half or so later, we've got half a dozen songs
and we're just our goal is to kind of put
out a song every month or two, and so we've

(33:57):
been doing that for really the The momentum picked up
this past summer and we've been putting out a song
about every month.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
So m that's exciting.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
One of the things I've always loved about the Myriad.
And I know it sounds like from the history of
you guys that at the time that you were a band,
you weren't a producer, but there certainly is this kind
of just it just sounds like a It sounds like
a band that is made by a producer. Like I

(34:28):
used to love Aaron Sprinkle stuff. Yeah, you know, anything
that he produced was great. I thought it was great.
But then if you listen to his solo projects or yeah,
just you know, like Fair and some of his other
solo stuff, you can just tell, like, even if it's
like not the most amazing album ever, you can just
tell like this is a guy that just clearly is
a producer. It just sounds good, it's well written, and

(34:49):
I always thought The Myriad was one of those bands.
And again, I know at the time you weren't a producer,
but it just sounds like a band that has some
sort of producer's ear that is involved in the band.
And so the fact that you guys are, especially now
with your producing experience, like I'm really excited to hear
more and more of these songs, just because I always
appreciated that aspect of the Myriad.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah that in the beginning of The Myriad, myself and
our guitar player, Stephen Tracy, we both worked at a
recording studio together and this is like I think we
met in two thousand and one, and he and I
were both aspiring producers, and there was that mindset for

(35:30):
sure going into everything we did.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
We were we were.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I don't know what the word is, calculated or something
in the songwriting and even even doing things that like
bands that we aspired to be, like like Muse would
come out and it would be three guys, but it
sounded like it was the biggest thousand yeah, and they're
and we're like, they're playing with tracks, you know, And

(36:00):
so you know, the first time we went on the road,
we had like a laptop and pro tools and we
were playing with like sub bass and keyboard layers and
all this kind of stuff that nobody was doing unless
you were, like, you know, at the Muse kind of level.
But no, like local bands are really doing that. But
we've got you know, we're all on in ears and

(36:21):
you know two thousand and two, two thousand and three
with click tracks and you know, and so it was
we we definitely brought like that producer like, let's make
sure if.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
We're gonna do this, we're gonna kill it. You know.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, that's it's interesting to say that because the first
thing I think of when I think of the myriad
is the most intriguing basslines. That's the very first thing
I think of. And that's that's almost never the case
with any band that I listened to, ye unless I'm

(36:55):
talking about like the Who Rights. That's weird company to
be in. Yeah, all the way across you Guys's every
single song, the bass is the first thing that sticks.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Out to me.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
And it just it carries the melody so often, and
it feels like it's much further it's placed much further
forward in the in the mix and everything. Was that
an intentional kind of move?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
You know?

Speaker 4 (37:20):
So our bass player John Roger Schofield, he's our original
bass player, and now we have a new bass player.
But John is very creative and he's almost like out
there in a way where like us raining him in

(37:43):
a lot made like the most amazing bass lines happen
because he would want to go like way further than that,
you know, And it became a thing because he wasn't
just gonna hold it. He wasn't just going to play
bass like that was not John. So he would push
the and then we'd pull him way back and we
and then we ended up with something that was magic

(38:04):
because his basslines pulled back are like way crazier and
and interesting than you know. So in the band now
we've got this phenomenal bass player, Michael Norman Williams Esquire
the Third.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
And you know, coming into the band, we've never really
talked about like shoes to fill or that kind of thing,
but John John Schophil was quite the beast on bass,
and so we just encourage Michael to think outside of
the or Michael Norman, Norman, Michael. He's got a lot

(38:46):
of names, so sometimes they just call him Esquire the Third,
But we've just encouraged him, like, hey, dude, like be
like funky with the bass, you know, and find that
sort of pocket. And he's like okay, okay, you know,
and so yeah, and the stuff that he's sending is
like he's tapped into that sort of thing right right

(39:08):
out of the gates, which has been amazing.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah, I was gonna say. Bass has always been a
really central part of the songs we wrote, from U
Cantri Sladder to even the old EPs through with Arrows
and then to now and so shout out to John
Rogers Schofield, awesome bass player, and also Norman Williams awesome
bass player, So it's like going from great to great,
just maybe two different approaches the bass, But I feel

(39:31):
like he's Norman's really kind of captured the sound of
the Myriad and just done such a great job. So yeah,
he's awesome.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
The songs that we've heard thus far are in the
same vein Like I if I wouldn't have looked up
that you guys had a new bassist, I wouldn't have known.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, And I think it's important people can be
themselves but also carry the sound of the band. It's like,
you know, Norman joining or even when I left the
band and Randy joined, Randy had his sound. He was
much more like a dynamic, hard hitting rock drummer, whereas
I'm a little more like, I don't know what you'd say,
like finesse groove, but can hit hard. And so it's
like you want them to be themselves and play the

(40:13):
parts the way they see fit, and I think Norman
does a great job at that. He's really captured the
sound but brought his own edge. He's got a like
rock grit to him. So he's awesome.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Well, speaking of the sound with the some of the
new songs, at least the most recent song, it's called
Something's in the Water, right, Yeah, Something's in the Water, Jeremy,
you mentioned at the very beginning something along the lines
of like, you know, you guys were in these SKA
bands and then you quit those bands. And I remember
you said something around the lines of like, you know,
Radiohead was kind of like coming into their own and

(40:48):
and so you mentioned them. And as soon as I
heard Something's in the Water, I was like, this is
kidd A.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Obviously the it diverges a little bit into like typical
Myriad type of sound, but the very beginning of that
song at least, I'm like, there's you for sure were
listening to Kida when you were writing that part right
the roads?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah. I mean not when
I wrote this song, but in the production of it,
I actually started off on piano and it was a
totally different line than when it ended up being. But
I the more I heard as the song came together,
I was like, this needs like a roads, but like

(41:31):
not a normal roads. It's kind of a weird, big roads.
And then I just put on kid A and I
was just like like that kind of roads, and.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
So it's very different.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
It's a very different song, but it has the same
kind of roads sound at the beginning, which I've always loved.
I remember the very first time I heard that song.
It's the first song off that album.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Right, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Everything in that's right place, m hyah, everything.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
In its right place off Kida. So I remember I
I borrowed my mom's She had this like I think
it was called a tiberon. It looked like a little batmobile.
And I just remember sitting in the parking lot of
Applebee's and the record had just come out, and I
borrowed my mom's car because the sound system was so good,
and I had this crappy little.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Sound system in my car. So I borrowed a car just.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
To listen to the album, and my friends were in
the car with me, and I just put the CD in,
turned it up really loud, and it was just like.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
We all looked at each other, like what is happening?
This is the best thing ever? But yeah, that was
I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
You know, it's such an unbelievable album. I mean, by
I think, just by far their best album.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's not my favorite album of theirs, but I think
pretty definitively can be stated as their best album.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, so good, such a good one.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
You know something else that I've always found striking about
the myriad at old tunes and the new ones that
we've heard. Extremely accessible, right radio friendly even in many cases,
but definitely not in a conventional way, very very complex

(43:20):
in its nature melodically especially, And that's the part that
I find is such an interesting balance to strike that.
I don't think many bands really nail but you guys,
I mean consistently, have nailed it throughout your entire lifetime
as musical people.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Because that seems so difficult, Like there's just not bands
that do this very often, but you guys are It's
almost like you have a sixth sense for it.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I think.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Some of it when I approach, especially the learrics, I
feel kind of uncomfortable, like hitting the nail on the
head lyrically, Like I don't know if all of her
write like a really perfect like love song, I'll write
a lot of love songs, but they'll be a little
obscure and they'll be I don't know, exactly what it is,

(44:21):
But I just I can't sing a song like that,
Like I have to be more metaphorical in the expression
and things and so. And I've always written from a
very visual place, So a lot of the songs I've
written will start out with me just dreaming about like
a little mini movie in my head, and how do
I tell that story in a four minute song? And

(44:45):
I was always obsessed with m Night Shyamalan films and
just sort of the mystery in those movies. But how
can we bring that kind of mystery into the songwriting?
And so that's and I've been criticized for it. I mean,
I've like when we had the whole MTV thing going on,

(45:07):
we had a big song called you Waste Time like
a Grandfather Clock and the lyrics were written by John
Roger Schofield or bass player and myself. And I remember
a label critiquing like different labeled people and MTV saying,
you know, that song would have been huge if the

(45:27):
lyrics weren't so weird.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
And I was just like okay with it, Like I'm like,
I'm not that guy.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I'm not gonna be able to like I couldn't imagine
that song being like this perfectly accessible lyric that you know,
I don't know, it's just kind of my thing is
it's hard for me to get excited about that. But
I'll listen to other people's music that's like, you know,

(45:55):
hitting the nail right on the head, and I'll be like,
that's a good chorus.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
But I'm like I would ever saying that.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
I was also gonna say Jeremy also has like a
graveyard of songs that have not been released, like even
we have six songs that have come out in the
last year and a half. And I remember we were
working on our last single before this one currently, which
is Ghost on a Wire, and Jeremy was going back
and forth on ideas and like sending me stuff and
the other guy's stuff, and I felt like we reached

(46:25):
a point where I'm like, this is when I talked
to Jeremy, this is either gonna get released or it's not.
Like he's kind of on the fence. I can tell,
and I'm like, I think this is a good song,
and he's like, I don't know. I'm gonna keep playing
with it and seeing what I can do. And I
think it's also like a credit to him in that
producer mindset, like he wants to put out the best material,
and I feel like these last six songs that we've
released have been a real reflection of him really, like

(46:49):
you know, taking a fine tooth comb to his production
process and the songwriting process and his lyrics and all
that and really getting something that's awesome. I've been, I mean,
I've been just blown away by some of the stuff
he's written and released. Every time I hear it, I'm
like getting excited, like this is amazing, man, Like I
get excited getting to play on it, you know. So
he's been doing a.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Good job with the writing, thank you.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
And there's a whole like twenty more songs that no
one will ever hear, unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
But I think it's harder to write now than it
was back then with the lyrics because being a little
older and stuff like you.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
You just.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I think back then, maybe some of it was the
pressure of needing to like write a full album, but
it didn't matter so much, like you could write something
filler in the verse just to be done with the song.
But now like it would just it'll eat at me
until I finally get that lyric just right, and I'll
be like Sleepless Nights. You know, it's harder now, like

(47:49):
I just won't be like I just finish this one off.
So it's it's been a little bit more of a
challenge in that way. But at the same time I
feel much more or proud or like resolved in the
in the song when it's exactly what I wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
So yeah, sort of along those lines. Knowing your experience
now as a producer, is there anything from the production
of those first two albums where you're like, I might
like as a producer maybe changed that production.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Thing just so.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I saw an interview years ago with Jimmy Chamberlain, the
drummer of the Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, and they were asking
him about like old bands that he was in, like
a band called the Skittles or something, and he said
something about, like every every band that you're in or
every album you release is like a little bit of

(48:50):
a cringe, but it's all you love it all, but
it's this cringe that keeps you becoming greater and greater
and stuff. So it I mean, even before we got
on the interview today, Scott's like, dude, this guy sent
me like a bootleg of like every Myriad show from
two thousand and three to two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Const he's like, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
And my wife said that I shouldn't show it to
you because she said you're not going to like it
and that you're much better singer now, and but I
really want to show it to you. And I'm like,
you can show it to me, And so he starts
playing it and he's like, do you want me to

(49:33):
send you the link? And I was like, no, that's terrible, right,
but yeah, I think you know, listening to those albums
there there is the memories that come with it that's great,
and the bootlegs that he was showing me, and then
even the records you kind of you go back to

(49:54):
that moment of time instantly and it's it feels good.
There's some nostalgia there, but on a production sense, and
even how I would sing and some of the lyrics,
like there's it cringe moments for sure, like I would
probably change that. I don't even know why I wrote
that lyric. I don't even know what that lyric means,

(50:14):
you know, like that kind of thing. So but yeah,
but it's all positive, but it like I don't like
hate it or anything like that. But it when I
listen back, I'm like, there's things I would change. But
I even even now, like there's times where I'm like,
I kind of want to redo that song, you know,

(50:36):
from like way back when, because there's like production elements
where I'm like, that would.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Be kind of sweet if we did this or this
or this. We haven't done that yet, yeah, version. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
So I think the only thing that you should maybe
be cringed or cringed feeling about is the hairstyles.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Oh yeah, those were.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Man, at the moment, I was like, Oh, that's such
cool hairstyle, And now I'm like, oh, man, I can't
believe it. Anyone I thought that looked good.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Yeah, the I dyed my hair black for like, yeah,
seven years, and I had the sweat bangs and yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Was that called, like the French cut or something like that.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
I know sometimes got out of control. I've got thick hair,
and so there's a few like, like most of the
pictures I'm like, yeah, I just looked like an emo kid.
But then there's a few pictures where I've just got
the biggest, weirdest hair.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Ever and I've sent that.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
I see it every now and then from something, you know,
like photo laying around the house, and I'll send it
to my friends back then and just be like, why
didn't any of you guys say something?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
This is so out of control? What was going on?

Speaker 6 (51:49):
Lion's Main, Dude, you have a Lion's man.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Oh, It's like, wow, is that a helmet I put on?
It's like.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
It was like the It's like the emo Karen haircut
an A line. I think it's my wife used to
do hair, so I know these hairstyles. It's like the
A line and it came down like an Emo Karen.
You're about to ask to speak to the manager at
the guitar center.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
So bad.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Oh, hey, at least guys made good music. Thinks it
works out all right? Well, speaking of good music. Top
five most influential albums?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Are we doing? Top five?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Mason Er?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Should we go? Top three?

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I think top three for each, top three for each?

Speaker 1 (52:33):
All right? Well?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Definitely Radiohead, Okay, Computer That record just changed my whole
life and inspired me in so many ways. The Smashing Pumpkins.
It's like kind of hard because I want to say
either Siamese Dreamer, Melancholy and the Infinite Infinite Sadness, but

(52:58):
more like Siamese Dream because that was high school for
me and that inspired me to want to play guitar
and start a band and all those things.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
What year did that one come out? Was that ninety five?

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I think it was ninety five, and I think Okay
Computer came out.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
In ninety seven, ninety seven, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
And then probably Muse Absolution, Oh yeah, yeah, especially like
with the sound of the Myriad and stuff like some
of those like the talk about basslines and stuff and
just the use of like the rock guitars with piano
and some of those elements and Matt Bellamy's singing style,

(53:44):
and that was very inspiring for me. We saw them,
we all went to see them together in Seattle and
it was they played in front of like four hundred people.
It was like one of their first US tours and
it was Absolution and it sounded just like the record.
It was the most amazing sound ever in a tiny
little club with four hundred people and everybody was just jumping.

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I just I'll never forget the floor at one point
it was a wood floor and it started boeing.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Yeah, I was boeing. It was kind of terrifies, like
those videos you see people collapsing three Y're waiting for
it to collapse.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
I had this panic at one moment because it's just
like safe for rap solish and I'm feeling the floor
and I feel like I'm on a trampoline. And I
stopped jumping for a minute and I still am moving,
and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
We're all gonna die.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
It was like this whole club's is gonna fall in
on itself.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
But it was still so good. I didn't care. I
was like, let's go. That's good. That's a good show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Muse as a band that I've never really quite gotten
into them so much, but I will say Bellamy and
just Muse in general are probably some of the better performers,
especially over the last twenty five years. I mean, yeah,
their shows are next level. Even if you're not like
a super big fan of the music, you almost have
to go to immune show just because they are some

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of the best performers out there.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Was it Glastonbury where they like were they played to
I don't know, insane insanely large crowd and they somehow
were like able to reach the very very very very
back of the crowd. There's like a big live show
that I watched one time on.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Oh you know.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Those like those old cable television, not cable actually extended
cable television.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Like MTV two or something.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
It was like MTV fifty, I don't know, but they
always had live live concerts all the time, and I
just remember watching that being like, how is this even possible?

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Oh yeah, he was like born for exactly what he's doing,
and like like in the Freddie Mercury kind of way,
like he's yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I definitely would put him in that like lineage of
like that type of performer, Frederie Mercury, and I think,
you know, some contemporary to him would be like another
one would be Brandon Flowers, like I think of him
being able to capture a crowd as well, and that
same vein. But yeah, certainly like Freddie Mercury David Bowie,
like just their ability to just like capture a crowd

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is it's pretty remarkable to have that kind of talent.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
I would Jeff Buckley as well. Jeff Buckley actually a
little big influence on Matt Bellamy. Yeah, he was like,
oh yeah, you can sing like that like live as
a guy it's like one of his things, like you
can sing kind of pretty and you know, be a
second tenor and sound awesome and rock drew.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
So yeah, but he'll never do what Sexy Red can do.
So I mean there's that.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Is that? What of yours?

Speaker 6 (56:44):
I mean, Jeff Buckley for sure, like love his drummer, too,
fantastic drummer. I would say top three records probably YouTube,
Joshua Tree, Okay, Nirvana never mind. That's actually probably what
got me into guitar as a young young kid, sneaking
that cassette tape in my stereo. I wasn't supposed to

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have it, and I was listening to it. I was
also listening to a lot more worse stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
But got to explore that. We got to explore that
real quickly. So did you grow up in a very
strict household?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I just yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
I mean my parents were Christian, but I would say
my mom was more of the Christian influence than my dad.
My dad was trying to figure it out. But it
just was like certain music types, you know, like everything
was the devil then, Like if you were a nineties kid,
oh yeah, every every music that wasn't like I know,
some like Christian Josanna music was the Devil. So, I

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mean I loved Nirvana and I heard never Mind and
even bleached the record before that I got into as
a young kid. I was like, this is insane, and
then that's I kind of went and reverse and then
got into punk rock because of that. So and really
like that's I would say, what kind of led.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Me into drumming?

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Because I loved the drumming and punk rock bands, and
so that's why I started playing drums while I was
playing guitar. But yeah, i'd say Nirvana, Nevermind and then
muse is it? What's the record?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Not?

Speaker 6 (58:08):
I wanted to call it Muscle Museum, but that's the song.
It's their first record, and I'm spacing.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
On the name. I can't think of the name, but
that's great.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
I could look on my phone. I actually so the
song Muscle Museum. I stayed up. I was a big
pod fan. Shout out to them, Payable on Death. I
stayed up to watch the premiere of the Southtown Southtown
that song, and it was being premiered on MTV two,
like on one hundred and twenty minutes. I think it
used to be called and used to premiere new bands
and new music videos. Muse came on right before them,

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and I was into Radiohead as well. Muse came out
and I was like, who is this band? And it
was Muscle Museum and he was doing he kind of
had like the I don't know what it's called. It's
like a distortion effect on his mic, you know I'm
talking about, Yeah, makes his voice sound like a guitar
and he was soloing with his vocals. I was like,
this is insane. And that's when I started listening to Muse.
I immediately went out and bought their CD. That record

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and then Origin Symmetry, which is one of my all
time favorite records. So I'd say that's like top three
or four. Showbiz is the name of that first record,
show Biz, Thank You, thank you. Yes, such a good album.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah for sure. Man.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I remember the first time I ever heard plug In
Baby from Origin of Symmetry, and I was like, this
guitar lick, this guitar hook is just next level. I mean,
I like, sometimes I'll just like I haven't I'll I'll
go like a long time, maybe years, without ever listening
to that song, and just every now and then it
will just pop into my mind and it just becomes

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an earworm just because that guitar hook is just so addictive.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, it's like a heroin hit. I don't know if
that feels like, but I imagine that's what it's like.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's a great list. I'm actually really maybe not really surprised,
but I just actually really appreciate that you both have
actually very similar lists, like similar era and we both
have mus on there, and so I actually kind of
appreciate the fact that there's you know, there's a YouTube album,
there's a Radiohead album. I'm not the kind of person
that wants to conflate the two, but I can see

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why some people would complate the conflate those two bands
a little bit. But but yeah, I actually really appreciate
that there's so much similarity between both lists.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Yeah, I mean we're close to the same age and
we were swimming in the same pond musically, and it's yeah,
I mean some of them on his list, I'm like, oh, Nirvana.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah, I'm a little upset that there's not a there's
not a Ska band on there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
I don't know there was some you know, like if
I I haven't listened to Ska on like a long time,
but I would. I love five Iron Frenzy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
We love five Iron.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
They're great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
In fact, so I used to drum and Project any
six for like three years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I played for.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
Project Yeah, and my last show in the band was
with Five Iron. It was awesome because I was like
a guy that was in a SKA band and looked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Up to them.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
I was like, this is a cool way to go out.
My last Showy six on New Year's Even, Denver, Colorado,
in their hometown. It was really really memorable. We filmed
a music video too, for Fall Goliath fall Off. I
can't remember record.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
It's like two wait, what years did you drum for Project.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Twenty eleven to twenty thirteen? Okay, yeah, Andrew and I
still play video games together sometimes. He's a good hell yeah,
he's a wild man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
He is wild.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
Hello of that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
He's a good guy. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
He's got a he's got a strange mind, but it's
a it's it's the right kind of strange.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
Great lyricist man. He writes their newest records that the
dual record, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I was texting.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
I was like, dude, this record is insane. Bro you're
tapping into something new.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah, that dude is just like constantly creating something like
he will even when eventually at some point project will end,
right and he will be creating something else like He's
just he will create until the day he dies.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
I think so, I think so mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, he's an artist through and through. So well, thanks
again for the list. What do you guys want to pluck?
Obviously we can probably expect a few more songs, Yeah,
what do you guys want to pluck? And audio feed too?
It we didn't really talk much about audio feed, but yeah,
you guys are playing a show here? Is that in July?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
July fifth, fifth? Yeah, we're headlining the Tuned Up Music
Stage on July fifth, Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Heck, yes, is that you guys' first show back in
however many years, ten years or fifteen years now?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
No pressure, it is. Yeah, it'll be fun. I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
We've talked so much about this, but Scott like cannot
wait to get back out. And for me, it there's
kind of a dance to it because I want to,
Like there's part of me is just like I just
go do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
But then there's another part of me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
It's just like I want to be like ready, Like
I want to, but how do you get ready without
doing it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
And then there's you know, do we wait for some
opportunity or do we just go play like Audio Feed Festival,
you know. So I don't know. Scott's stretching me. You know,
it's it. It is hard to to go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
From like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
The last time I tell Scott, you know, the last
time I played, we were on a tour bus and
like we played two sold out shows in my hometown
with like a thousand people, five hundred people at the
door because they couldn't get in. I don't want to
go play like a you know, a little club or
something that's kind of funny. But Scott's like, dude, let's

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play the Dip. It reminds me of some of the
old clubs we used to play in Seattle. It holds
like one hundred and forty people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I'm like, I don't know if I want to play.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
The No, it's cool. It's a local venue here in Reading.
But I think, to Jeremy's point, it's just a matter
of doing the right shows at the right time. I
think we're just continuing to make new music and if
it makes sense, it'll make sense. Like I think we're
all need to be on the same page. And audio
feed made sense, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
It'll be fun.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
Yeah, audio feed would be good. We're still considering, you know,
some club shows and things like that, so we'll sort
that out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I think my favorite part of getting back together and
all that is is the writing part, you know it.
It feels like, you know, painting again or something. It's like,
and I could do that forever. Loading into a van
together and hitting the road.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
But with the right opportunities, like you know, there's been
a few times where I'm like, yeah, we got a
call from you know, Expand or this, we're friends with
these guys or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Of course, like go out for like a couple of weeks,
I'd be a total brodeo, you know. So it's just
waiting for those like awesome opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I wish when you head out to uh to Illinois
in the middle of July, you won't have to hit
any black ice.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Yes, yes we're flying, so no black eyes, but you
never know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, cool, what do you guys? What else do you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Want to plug m Yeah, so just keep an eye
out because we're right now, we're in writing mode.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
We're constantly writing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
So, like Scott said, we just had this song, something
Is in the Water come out like a month ago.
We released a music video with it. Go check that out.
It's on YouTube and iTunes and all that or Apple Music,
I guess, and then all that. So but then keep
an eye out because we've got we'll have another one
coming out next month, in the month after that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
We're just gonna keep going so awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I heard the next song that you guys are releasing.
It has something to do with the JFK files, right,
like some some of the lyrics have to do with
like like you were gonna leak some of the JFK
files and unfortunately those got leaked out before for your
before you were able to get the song out. But
I heard something that isn't that right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
So I had been doing like a really deep dive
in twenty thirteen, which went to twenty fifteen on the files,
and had met some people that were familiar got some
of the files leaked.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
So we're trying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
We're just debating because now they're all all all the
files are coming out, but we're about to drop this
song that's just gonna it's a lot of the unredacted stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Or the redacted stuff, the stuff that they aren't going
to release at this drop, we're going to release in
our song. So it's gonna be in the bridge of
the song. We just spilled the beans on everything.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
A lot of binary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
So the song's called it wasn't Oswald, right, Yeah, it's
called well, yeah, it wasn't Oswald.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
It was him and someone else is what the song
is called. But it was him and someone Else's in parentheses,
so keep it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Did hear that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Another song that you guys were working on is Golf
of America. So it's something in the Water. I think
it's like like innuendo, a kind of messaging, right, or
subliminal messaging. Something in the water dot dot dot Golf
of America. So what are you guys thinking here? I'm
trying to decipher.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
The message, oh of the song Something's in the Water.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, And and and then the next song that you
guys are working on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
You know, so in all truthfulness that the song Something's
in the Water. I actually wrote that right after listening
to the November thirteenth hearing, the Congressional hearing on UAP phenomena.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
That's actually real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
That's not a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
So I've been following the congressional hearings and I've always
been very fascinated and intrigued. And so on November thirteenth,
they had these different experts there. One of them worked
on submarines and they've been tracking things under the water.
One of them worked one of them was like a

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pilot with the US Air Force, and they had seen
like the tic TACs and whatever, and they have all
these experts, and you just don't you don't get any
further because anytime they ask them a real question, they're like,
I can tell you that we're gonna have to meet
in a private skiff or whatever. And so the song
doesn't it just asks the questions. The choruses, you know,

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are we the fools believing a lie?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
What's the chorus?

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Are we the ones that yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Or are we the one?

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Are we the fools believing a lie?

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Are we the ones who light up the skies? Or
could it be aliens in the night. Secrets don't lie,
and our secrets don't die. And so the the song
is it. It's about that whole mystery and about the
conspiracy to kind of keep it covered up. But it's
not necessarily saying one way or another anything definitive, you know,

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so sure, I'm just curious about it all.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
That's why the next one is about the JFK files. Man,
you're just continuing down that conspiracy trail.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
It's like basically like the next blank win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah, it belongs to me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
So he's got the band to take on tour.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
Yeah, man, he loves the UFO stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
That's awesome, be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Well, thank you guys so much for chatting more about
the Myriad again. You guys have been a band that
we've been listening to over fifteen years, fifteen to twenty years,
and so you guys have been a part of our
lives for a while, and so thanks so much for
chatting about it. And we're just really excited that you
guys are back making new music. The world needs more
Myriad than music in the world. So I'm a big
fan that that that's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
So thanks so much, Thank you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
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