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September 8, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 5 (01:03):
I stayed in.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Bedley today because the room was spinning. I think it's
gonna be a bad day. My alarm went off on time,
but it was a smoke alarm.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
I think it's gonna be a bad day.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Poured the bowl of chunky granola.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
The milk was chunkier I think it's gonna be a
bad day.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
My boss said I'm doing a great job and he
hates to let me go.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I think it's gonna be a bad day. My wife said,
I love you Bill. My name is John. I think
it's gonna be a bad day. Found a forty.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Clover growing on my shower floor. I think it's gonna
be a bad day. I'm gonna be a dad according
to the lawsuits. I think it's gonna be a bad day.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Talk to a sexy girl today for four a minute.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I think it's gonna be a bad day. My son
finally got his own place.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
He's in prison. I think it's gonna be a bad day.
My daughter started an e business. She's got a camera
in her bedroom.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
I think it's gonna be a bad day. My doctor
gave me the thumbs up. It was extremely painful. I
think it's gonna be a bad day. My wife likes
to dress sexy, so I hear. I think it's gonna
be a bad day. My secretary has a crush on me.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
His name is Steve. I think it's gonna be a
bad day.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Bob and Tom Show is still trying to wake up
in the meantime, more Bob and Tom extra Chick.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
We're joined by two very terrific guests.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
I guess are we comedians like them?

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Even?

Speaker 9 (03:02):
Are they terrific?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
His word.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
To say that about everybody?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
I do not.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
I know. I enjoy my AT and T phone service.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Every time you say that, I get a small commission
so much.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
This is Melana vine Trub nailed it, really.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, you nailed it.

Speaker 10 (03:24):
What's funny is Gracie's name is way easier. But everyone
gets that one wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Come on, but I literally don't care. And there's like
eight different ways to pronounce it.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
You've got to go with old Hollywood.

Speaker 11 (03:35):
You should be uh Grace Collins, and you should be
Milly van Joy.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
I think went old Testament.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I did very biblical.

Speaker 10 (03:49):
Yes for a comedian, that's right, when I went old plagiarism.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
Very nice. Who's on your shirt?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Gracie Beyonce, old cowboy Carter? And it changed my life?

Speaker 11 (04:02):
Okay, so I'm glad you brought this up. Queen Bee
tells us it was just one body wash. Don't you
just one shampoo?

Speaker 7 (04:08):
Mix them?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is it, this is true.

Speaker 8 (04:11):
Mix them together and then you have your own set.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
So do you live by that.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
I live by that. I have like nine what do
you mix in very non male?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, I have.

Speaker 11 (04:22):
I have like twenty twenty five shower body washes. I
am not twenty five ten.

Speaker 9 (04:28):
And maybe you mix them together, and I.

Speaker 11 (04:29):
Mix them all together with a standard with my bass,
I'm making a fist with my base.

Speaker 8 (04:35):
My base is shade butter, black soap or something like that.

Speaker 10 (04:40):
And then I take my wait, don't tell us the rest.
We should all go around and sniff him.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
I with my.

Speaker 11 (04:48):
Shampoo, I mix two shampoos together. And therefore Queen be
told me I have my own set.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Well, now King C does his thing. That's great.

Speaker 11 (04:56):
There you go, Oh wow, So what do you guys?

Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yeah, either one of you do in the shower, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Great way to start on the floor. Anyone else. It's
a great way to start your day.

Speaker 11 (05:10):
Honestly, is it is it common knowledge that I just
learned this recently?

Speaker 8 (05:15):
You should actually, well, I saw it in the big chill.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Just came out.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
You're supposed to thank you.

Speaker 11 (05:25):
No, you're supposed to cry in the shower. I don't
know that's where you're supposed to do all your crying.
If you cry, people don't know that you're crying.

Speaker 10 (05:32):
I guess party place to have thoughts. I mean it's
like one of the rare places where we don't have
our phones, we don't have any distractions. So anytime I
have an original thought, it's in the shower.

Speaker 11 (05:45):
Yeah, A lot of times that is where they say, Now,
I've got my shower. Another thing, I've got eucalyptus stone
in the shower. I got the vapor pucks.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You have like the actual eucalyptus leaf.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
My daughter at my daughter every now and then me.
You can lift this branch and you hang it from
your shower.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
You do you have and you playing?

Speaker 11 (06:07):
I don't go flow if I have a such real man,
I have a suction cup magnet for my phone that goes.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Up on the I think this is quiet, So you
do take your phone into the shadow.

Speaker 9 (06:18):
You're into the shows.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You're a small business.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
From the shower, I do wait for stressful? Does it
sounds like more more like a boutique, doesn't.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
That is your shower?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
And how many other people are in there?

Speaker 11 (06:31):
Eight by ten and about three at the busiest times. Know,
that's where I listen to music and sometimes got gotcha?

Speaker 9 (06:41):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's beautiful. I love your self care ritual never could.

Speaker 11 (06:46):
I'm very self and I'm very self invoulved. I'm not
I'm not finding what I'm I'm not liking what I'm finding.
But we're joined by Milana Vinetrub and Gracie Cannon. Grace, see,
are you in New York?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I do?

Speaker 7 (07:02):
I do.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
We're representing both coasts right now. I live in Brooklyn.
I live in la it does. So we're just here
disagreeing about the weather. Mostly yeah, it's so swampy.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
She's like, this is nothing combat in the city. I'm like,
this is breezy in the city.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
It's just it feels like, I don't know, it feels
like a greenhouse or something. Too many people, too many rats. Honestly,
my roommate is a rat. It's yeah, have you ever
seen the document.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
He pays more? He's actually my landlord, So you know,
it's just nice to be out.

Speaker 11 (07:34):
What's that documentary called Josh the Rats Rats Morgan Spurlock
that one. And they go out and there's this pile
of garbage, and it's late at night, and they go
and hit a stick and all in the entire pile
of garbage move it's in New York City, and.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Why would you make a documentary about it?

Speaker 7 (07:51):
Growing it's pretty wild? Yeah, and then and then he goes,
you know, down deep into the subway system.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
Sure, why would you putting rat food on the street,
big bags on a schedule?

Speaker 11 (08:00):
Well, yeah, they think that's a good point.

Speaker 8 (08:04):
The rats, the rats, the rats know the rats.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Chicago hasn't bad, Chicago has him bad. Oh yeah, my
daughters live in Chicago and I'm walking down the sidewalk
and all of a sudden.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Do you have so you have roommates or you don't?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I have a roommate.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
You guys want to hear everything something that everyone thinks
is crazy. I live with my ex boyfriend. Okay, yeah, yeah,
we're like bff.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
So is that right?

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (08:28):
Now, was he just saying we're best friend?

Speaker 6 (08:31):
No?

Speaker 8 (08:31):
No, again, Is he trying.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
To weasel his way back in? Absolutely not. We are
both disgusted.

Speaker 11 (08:41):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I think that's really sweet that you
think that.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
He has a girlfriend and she has the same name
as me, no last name, but yeah, yeh.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
New York baby. Yeah, you know what they say, There
is not a lot of people in New York.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
Any money, rightasy it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Are you dating?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Am I dating in New York?

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I am. Yeah, I am dating in New.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
York and you're dating as well. Are you dating a
guy the same name as.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Your old Yeah, that's exclusively my criteria. Actually, there's a
filter by Hinge that you can do that by name.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, I am dating.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I've I've been pretty cynical about it. Not only a
bad way, but I am seeing someone that is has
been all green flags recently, so I got to block him.
Good for my brand.

Speaker 11 (09:39):
If you want a cynical dating story, can you remember
this from Nick, our friend, comedian Nick Griffin, which one
he started? He said he was going to start dating
and it was going to be a coffee date. And
he said, no matter from this point forward, no matter
who I met for coffee, I would end the date
with a kiss.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
Oh going to kiss that that woman.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
No matter what.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
What was his I don't because Nick's not that guy.
What was his? The sweetest guy ever? But I don't.

Speaker 11 (10:09):
I think he thought it was from a comedian angle,
he thought would be interesting and might lead to some
and it didn't.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
He also does kind of have a fear of commitment,
so this is a this is a good way of
like making sure no one, no one's going to follow up.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
He said, you would not.

Speaker 11 (10:25):
I was in the parking lot of Avon's and making
out at eleven fifteen and the more that one.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
That one went well, all right, that one went well.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I feel like I might have gone on a date
with this guy. I don't know who it is, but.

Speaker 10 (10:37):
I've definitely been attempted to kiss at the end of
a date and been like, there were no cues for you.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That this was okay. What makes you think you should
lean in now?

Speaker 9 (10:48):
Yeah, awkward moment.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
Boy, there's nothing worse than the lead in just the
lean nothing worse. They don't know it's awkward, I mean not.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
If it's not reciprocating.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Sure, yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
You kind of have to meet each other halfway, you
know what I mean, Like that scene from Horse Whisper.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We are Horse Whisper, Big show. We are really getting
today you.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Have to let them come to you at another not
a current movie.

Speaker 11 (11:16):
Yeah, so you guys are criss crossing the country a
lot of improv he.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Stan.

Speaker 9 (11:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (11:28):
Yeah, well we're both incredibly resourceful because we come from
like a broken childhood.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, friends and so we're constantly.

Speaker 10 (11:41):
Just trying to prove ourselves and any idea we have
we tried to capitalize on, and so stand up is
one of those things that we really enjoy doing. And
it's such a self starter business, you know, like you
really don't need much but a mic and an audience,
and luckily.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
People keep showing up to our shows.

Speaker 10 (11:57):
So uh, and I have a a big, big hole
in my heart that I could only fill with strangers laughter.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh, I have to keep doing it or I die.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I will.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I will thank you for laughing right now, because I.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Was getting lot.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Yes, yeah, I've got an sense it.

Speaker 9 (12:14):
What's the name of your short?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's called Booties Booties b O O T I E
apostrophe s.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I know there's a lot of different.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
Gosh, I'm about that ass I would imagine it. There's
a little bit of a maybe some some pun work
as well.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Maybe also No, there's no, there's no it's just forty
five minutes, no dialogue, all slow mo.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's just a s of a thong walking away. It's
really fun when you both.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Do stand up. Do you also get on stage? Can
currently as well?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
We should? I know people have been asking that, but
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I I would feel personally bad because I'm a little
litle bit Malana in me.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, and I just would really overshadow you. No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Milana has like a really polished improv background, as you
can kind of tell. And I'm more like a feral
comedy raccoon, you know what I mean. I just have
no filter and I come out. So it's like, I
wouldn't want to bring her down and say something insane.
If I'm going to do that, I'm going to do
it like separate from her. So She's like, I do
not condone this.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
And I think it would be weird for me because
I love Gracie so much. I have so much respect
for her, but she's also the easiest person to make
fun of.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
So I just feel like I could possibly squash her
so much, ammo, and I love it. I love it.
It makes me feel so loved. He has no secrets. No,
it's really bad.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Maybe you could one night, Joshua with the girls.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You could, Yeah, what are you doing tonight?

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah? Today night? I do have no plans there you Yeah, yeah,
I don't do so.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
Good improv background.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, it's so funny. It's been so long since i've
EM's so funny. Yeah, all right, you can headline how's
that fetter? It's been a couple of months since I've hadlined,
and I'm not any better at that.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
Stick around for Josh.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
We're here with our guests, Milana vine Trub and Gracie Cannon.
So great to have you. Malana. Did you grow up
on the West Coast?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I grew up in La.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
My family's from Uzbekistan and we immigrated when I was
about two years old, so right into West Hollywood, which
you know, used to be like the tongue of people land,
and then the Mexican California and then the Gold Rush
and then just Soviet immigrants and now it's just gay people.

Speaker 11 (14:33):
Oh yeah, and Barney's Beaneryet.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
Barney, Yeah, which I think has also been co opted
by gay people and is only better now for it.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
They do beans better.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
I was having beans there one day, and the needs
a gay.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Up around in here.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's what everyone needs to gay up around in here.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Anyway. So and you're East.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Coast, Well, I'm actually also from LA but then I
moved out for college. I was like Providence, Philly, and
I was just like, I love it out here people
are mean and I feel safe. Like people are like
creepily too nice in LA and I was like, I
don't like I grew up there, but I was like,
I don't think I fit in here. And then yeah,
now I'm in East Coast early. So now I've been

(15:20):
in Brooklyn for like ten years.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
We have been, we've been.

Speaker 11 (15:23):
The Billy Joel documentary just dropped on HBO Max and
we've been watching it and talking about it off the air.
And that was one of the big moments in his
careers when he decided, you know, I'm leaving, I'm leaving Hollywood.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
I'm going back to New York.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And it was I saw him at MSG.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was just amazing. I guess what his.

Speaker 11 (15:40):
Uh creative fire clime is so different when he got Yeah,
when he got back to New York, and you know,
Billy Joel is New York. When you think about it, sure.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Would you say the La niceness felt fake to you?
Or did it?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I grew up in the suburbs and I was just
like even growing up, like I didn't know anything else.
But I was like, it feels very clean and weird,
and I just don't fit in here. I was like
the weird moody theater kid and it was just very
like I just I was like, it just didn't feel normal.
And then as soon as I landed in Providence for college,
like the bus stop and I'm like, people are insane here.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It is cold.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I I don't know, it's like I have Stockholm syndrome.
There's something about it where it's like I need the
chaos to have like inner peace. Otherwise, if it's two
peaceful around me, I caused too much chaos.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
There has to be chaos. So I'd rather be on
the outside.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
But yeah, yeah, anywhere else?

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (16:30):
Yes, I've lived in New York for a little bit.
I went to school in San Diego. But la is
home and I think superior to most other places.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, no, it is. It is my favorite place.

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Also, my my family lives there, like generations of family
live there, and I have a son, and so I
just it's just nice to all be together. You know,
you have kids that live in Chicago and that sucks
that they did.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That to you.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
Yeah, are you mad at that? Of course?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
No.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
Every day did you desert your mother?

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Do you go?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Are you that direct? You're not. It's a subtle implug.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
Of course I'm passive aggressive.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
If you think that's best, all right, Well.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
I guess I don't need to see you on Mother's Day, right,
then there's next year.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
So when I die, I won't need you to visit
my grade.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
Okay, don't come visit now? Or do you have a
lot of imagine a lot of friends in New York City?
But do you also seek guidance elsewhere? Do you see
therapists who're.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Hell yeah, absolutely? Do you think that I'm held together
by duct tape?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, this is amazing?

Speaker 9 (17:40):
Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I think it should be a requirement when people move
to New York. Most people are in therapy, but I
think it should be a requirement. Like you pull in,
you take a Deli number. You cannot have like nine
million people with unresolved mommy issues living on top of
each other. That's where things get dicey. But yeah, I
have any therapist. My last one was twenty three years old. Yeah, insane.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
Well that would just make me angry.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
She was like, oh my god, you deserve healing, queen.
And I was like, your brain is not fully developed, but.

Speaker 8 (18:12):
You know it's good.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's good to take action. It's good to show up,
but yeah, what about you?

Speaker 6 (18:16):
What do you do?

Speaker 9 (18:17):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Have graduated to once a month.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh, that's your weaning therapy.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
I plan on doing it for the rest of my
life because I do think it's you didn't win fantastic, No,
you didn't win therapy champion.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
I've had a therapist say you don't need to come anymore.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
What they say, you don't need to come anymore or
please don't come here?

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Maybe I heard.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
I need to talk to that therapist. I mean, but
it is wonderful.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
It is kind of weird to hear that.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well, right, I've never heard it. They're like, you got
to triple.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Up if we're going to make progress, So you gotta
quit your job.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
We're doing electro shock.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
Baby, I've had well, that's our our What are you
doing after lunch?

Speaker 8 (19:01):
That's what I've had?

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Didn't come back? Can't you come back double up? I can't.
I can't have you out there wandering around. Are you
guys currently seeing therapists or No?

Speaker 12 (19:13):
I had to stop because mine was too young and
I just felt old and she didn't really.

Speaker 10 (19:21):
She didn't flirt with you, right, she didn't flirt back
with you.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
There was no making out in the Vaughns. Let's just
put it that way. Do you always kiss your therapists
at the.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
She was hot. I gladly would have kissed her to
talk to her, though.

Speaker 12 (19:40):
No, I know I could care. Girls aren't interested in me.
I'm not worried about running them off. They already ran
So I just I'm honest. I have a The therapist
is a female.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:53):
Is she attractive, Yeah, sure, yeah yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
I don't think of her that way really, So, I mean,
I guarantee she thinks of.

Speaker 10 (20:00):
Me that my therapist is my best friend, and we
laugh and I know stories about her life.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I've seen her for ten years.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
And then at the end of the session when I
get a Venmo request, I'm.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Like, I thought we had something especial.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
You couldn't comp this one, Fred, right, it's made for coffee.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I feel like you're getting as much out of this
as I am.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
You have to catch him looking at the clock.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
I hate that I never had. In fact, you'll go
over with me.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Maybe she does have one. Maybe I have a Maybe
you've won therapy, Oh.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah she In fact, you know what
she said last time.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
When She said that you're her funniest clients.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I can use her grounding mat for free. What I
want to go in? What's that? Are you guys familiar
with the groundings? So grounding like real grounding as you
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