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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 6 (00:59):
I feel a little embarrassed writing you about this, but
here goes Anyways. I don't have a lot down there,
if you know what I mean. I'm eighteen years old
and could tell the first day we showered in Jim,
I wasn't like the other boys. What hope is there
for me? With only a pinky's worth of pork signed
hopeless in Huntsville. All right, Well, first off, mine, I
(01:22):
gotta beit it took a lot of balls to write
that letter. To my face, I swear to God it did.
I mean, ain't everybody gonna have the gift of girth
like I do? We can only go to bat with
what God gave us. It sounds to me like you
need to learn to bunt sign if. Anyways, The point
is there's still a purpose for your pork, but it's
up to you to find the right game plan. First off, man,
(01:43):
most women don't even know the difference unless they've been
around a block a bunch, and I've been with a
few of them girls. I've been with some girls that
have tried on more pork swords and shoes. If some
can be cruel, I remember Angel Skinner telling one ex
boyfriend that it felt like someone was picking her nose
down there. To God she did he's still in counseling.
Talk like that can cripple a man. First off, mine,
(02:06):
if the girl starts doubting what you got downstairs, just
tell her the less it weighs, the longer it stays,
and who cares if you ain't packing like everybody else,
embrace it, stand up, speak up, and being continent about it.
Be like, hey, baby, I'm locking lit a candy bars
at Halloween. I'm fun sized. I swear to God you should. Hell,
I've known a lot of guys that bowled three hundred
(02:27):
games without using sixteen pound balls. The point is, you
got other aspects to your.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Game you can talk up.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I had a lot of friends I wrestled with the
bragged about having big guns. But then word got out
they had quick triggers. So which is worse. Secondly, shave
the shrubs or lube the pubes because hair hides inches.
Everybody knows it. If you don't want to cut them,
at least wet them down. I'm just saying, if it
looks like the perm on Richard Simmons, you're carrying way
too much cover.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And look at it this way.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Not everybody can bench press the same Not everybody runs
the same speed. Now everybody gets the same grain defensive driving.
That's life, So start looking at your upside. Taylor, you
got some stay in power telor you're double digits at
least in the metric system for Taylor, Hi, baby, at
least I got fat fingers.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Either way, you have options hopless. I swear to God
you do. I gotta go.
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It's our way of making sure you haven't missed anything.
This is Bob and Tom Extra and Tom. We have
a special guest joining us the studio. He's a singer.
He's a songwriter. He is Edwin McCain. He's hanging out
with us. We'll talk with Edwin momentarily.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
Right now, we're going to switch to the satellite where
we have one of the stars of nate Land on YouTube.
It's the great comedian Greg Warren, who's new special on
YouTube on Nate Land is called the Champ.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Hello Greg, Hey, Tom, Hey guys, how's everybody doing.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Great?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Congratulations on the terrific new special. Thanks buddy, Are you home? No, No, that's.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
All okay, because I was gonna say, I see a
tell hanging from the door.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh yeah there. Just straight up a little more.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I'm gonna post garden in the most giant headboard I've
ever seen on a bed. Or maybe it's the uh.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
I think it's No, you're right, it is. It's a
giant headboard.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I asked for those, all right, Well, yeah, they certainly
came through for you.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You need some more bottles of water.
Speaker 10 (04:22):
Too, you know, yeah, hydrating and I'm happy to see it. Greg,
you gotta stay hydrated, I peeked, thanks, Josh.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
I don't know if you noticed, Christy, those are predominantly
heavy on.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
That's right now, you got that special.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You're all money. Yeah, that's uh, that's Nate Land money
right there.
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
By the way, you owe me twenty bucks pal okay.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Is that for your joke in my special?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, it's just in general, like twenty years ago, loan
your twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, sorry to shout.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I saw some video of you over the weekend. That's
some sort of wrestling.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
You you were standing in front of two naked men
wrestling and portrayed in granite? Is that right? Am?
Speaker 9 (05:02):
I close to what you were looking at? That was
from earlier this past month. I was that was at
the Louver Chick.
Speaker 11 (05:11):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a famous.
Speaker 9 (05:14):
Wrestling statue, and I I broke down the technique of
this statue. He said, this is the way I used
to do this. It's far more effective. He kept saying, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (05:24):
The guy was working a move called the guillotine, which
it's France, so it's fitting. It's a bit of a
high school move chick if you if you want to know,
Oh good, yeah, it's more it's not really a college
is it illegal? Oh yeah, it's legal. Yeah yeah, I mean,
but I mean you're not going to get in it
in college.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know. I have a question.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
There's of course the famous illegal full Nelson and then
the half Nelson. Was there someone named Nelson that developed that?
Speaker 9 (05:51):
Uh, you know, I don't. I don't know that. That's
a great question.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I would think with your years of wrestling in high
school and college and state champion, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Said he you would have found that out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, two times state champion. I do want to point out,
but two I.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Call him a two timer Tom the deuce. And you're
not even allowed to mention anything about a state championship
unless it's a two timer.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay, I see, Yeah, well maybe one day.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
Typically you're talking to me like I'm a one timer
and disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
He's one timing.
Speaker 10 (06:24):
You, man.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We should explain to Edwin.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
On the show, Greg will do a deep dive into
an unusual topic, say peanut butter and he'll go deep.
Perhaps you should go deep on the names of wrestling moves.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I could do that I could do that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are there any others that we would have heard of it?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean they very regionally.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Tom, I mean, uh you know, uh say like a
cow catcher. That's that's a different move in certain parts
of the country. Oh yeah, some people. Yeah, that sounds
like a sex move or the rusty Gates.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Oh wait, no, that's lacrosse.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I don't think that's in ed when I know, you know,
you're a rock star.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
You guys have different experiences on the road than comedians do.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Our hotel rooms. I don't know all these sex moves,
you know, all the moves.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Now, have you chosen a topic to go do a
deep dive in today?
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I did, Tom, I wanted to discuss today the the
history of uh whiffle ball.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Oh yes, I love I'm with you chick, one of
my all time favorite activities.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
So do I, So do I, guys, And you have
David Mulleny to thank for that, a former semi pro pitcher.
A lot of those old guys will say, like, guy,
was this semi pro? Which I what is it? Were
you in the minor leagues or not? It just sounds
a little bit phony to me. But this guy, mister Gertner.
(07:52):
He was my neighbor when I was growing up, and
he said he played semi pro baseball. He said he
also played semi pro tennis, semi pro basketball, all in
semi pro hockey. So it's one of those things like
what the more he said, the less I believed in.
He also had He was a good guy, but he
had a lot of advice. Uh, my friend Ted Rueger
and I one time, my dad told us to cut
(08:13):
the lawn, and uh, we thought it'd be funny to
carve a curse word into the lawn.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That is funny.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
And mister Gertner came by and he's like, you guys,
are you're cutting the wrong all along?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
All wrong?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
You got you didn't understand what we were doing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
He's like, you go in rows, you don't go on
this running around. You're like, he didn't see the swear
word that we were.
Speaker 10 (08:37):
What did it start with? You really went all out? Yeah,
we were idiots.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So once you got the lawn mode, is that where
you played ball?
Speaker 9 (08:53):
We did play some whoofleball back there. Checking those they
got pretty uh and thanks for that transition. But we
played quite a bit of whiffle ball and it got
very emotional. It's a very emotional game. Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Did you have the lawn chair as the umpire?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Right?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
Oh yeah the strike zone yeah yeah hit that right. No,
we didn't think of that, but that's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
We hired an umpire at one point. Rob Wetzel had
to come down an umpire for Wow. Yeah, we paid
him like three dollars. Yea, Robbie needs to hey quit
quit in the fourth inning. We got yelled at way
too much. Yeah it was. It was invented patented in
nineteen fifty seven. David had he had a son and
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his son was out playing, uh, he was playing ball.
They had a broomstick and a plastic golf ball, and
they were also trying to throw a curveball. And David,
as a supposed semi pro pitcher, knew that when kids
throw a curveball, that's the easiest way to hurt your arm.
(10:09):
So he was like, I'm gonna try to find a
ball that will curve easily. He was also out of
work at the time and he had a buddy. This
is this is crazy. He had a buddy that worked
at the Colt Firearms Company now Colt Firearms when they
weren't making guns, they were making packages for Cody perfume.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You want to talk about deversification.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
Yeah, they they were making packages and and he he
the package.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Was like a ball.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
It was like a white plastic ball that they put
the perfume in. So he got his buddy to give
him a bunch of these packages. Luckily his buddy, for
all of us, was not a bricklayer. Yeah, so he
started fooling around with making a whiffle ball, and and
that's how we made the whiffle ball. Now, when they
(11:04):
are manufactured, there's two halves, guys. You have the half
with the holes in it and the the half without
the holes in it, and they fuse them together.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I suspect there's.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
Quite a bit of rivalry between those two sides of
the business over there at whiffle Ball.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Where'd the name come from?
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Well, uh, from whiffing, you know, striking out with whiffing.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Or you don't want to go off up there and
whiff tom, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
So do you think the guys are making the half,
the solid half have some kind of beef with the
Swiss cheese half?
Speaker 9 (11:39):
And yeah, I think it's the other way around. Josh,
the other guys are doing a lot more work. Those
guys are like, yeah, well, well yeah, you're over there
on non hole side.
Speaker 11 (11:48):
You guys knocking off at noon every day, and they
didn't pay the same you get. Maybe it's a situation
of like, hey, man, you know you're doing good work
over here.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I like what I see.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
You keep it up, We're gonna put you on holes.
What else have we got, well, tom our boy David
Mulleney sold these things out of his car at first?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Was it just the balls or did he have something
to do with a bat as well?
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Just the balls at first, Josh, back came like three
years later, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
There was there a lot of people going, boy, I
wish I had something to hit this ball.
Speaker 10 (12:25):
Well, so they were mostly stickball, I guess yeah, probably
stick probably stickball, or maybe even just uh maybe they
played it with a wooden bat.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
Really, yeah, Josh, I know you said you enjoyed wolfotball,
but you were in the sporting equipment business for a while.
Did you guys look down on wiffle ball or did
you see them as a competitor over at rollings or.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
We didn't we saw wiffle ball as a gateway to
using Rolling's products.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So we we we see.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
We encouraged, we encouraged with the ball, so that eventually,
you know, those interested in baseball and stuff would start encouraged.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So like financially encouraged.
Speaker 10 (13:02):
Is that what you're saying, Hey, hey, hey, uh look
some of us may have uh been not everything was
on the level money.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, the money changed hands at any point.
Speaker 10 (13:11):
Well, we don't like to say that. We like to
say favors were done. I'm just gonna leave this right here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Now, is is there a an off brand Whiffle ball
or does Whiffle have a patent that's still out there?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Awful ball is uh not a very good product? Uh,
that's right there in the name. No, I'm not. I
don't know. I would imagine there is.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, well you know that plastic bat and ball. The
ball is solid plastic. I mean it's hollow inside, but
there's no holes on it.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Yeah, that I don't I never played with that though.
That seemed like that's not You can't curve it, No,
you could, you could crush it. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
would go along, especially when those try it, big red bats.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh, they take big red bats.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, large the torpedo bat, of the plastic noise.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've just heard the sound in my head, Yes, I
heard it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Josh is a guy uh with brothers.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
If you were in the pool and you got hit
in the back with the whiffle bat, which one hurt more,
the big red one or the yellow ones?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It did?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Did? It did hurt more.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
It's not going to hit the ball farther, but it
hurt more when it hit your back.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (14:29):
Yeah, they sold these things out of He sold them
out of the trunk of his car. Which men, We've
been through a lot of these reports and men, they
were selling a lot of stuff out of the trunks
of cars back then.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
They sure were.
Speaker 11 (14:39):
And it seems like you don't need to you just
say you sold it out of the car. We didn't
think you were selling it out of the hood. I
don't like where this is going. I got a trunkloaded
my albums out there. I'll take one of Edwin. I'm
a big fan, Josh, pick me up one of those.
I'll reimbursh you. I'm a big fan in I'd love
(15:00):
to have one. Uh, if you could sign it, that'd
be great. What's what's sold out of the trunk of
the car today, guys? Besides Edward McCain albums, I usually
stolen TV sets. But you open up the box and
it is full of bricks.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know what, though, they tend to be a little
bit more organized now. They'll take over like a corner
of a busy street and there'll be you know, blankets
and all sorts.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Of Tide detergents.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
It's a Procter and Gamble product. I'm gonna have to
look into that, that fine product. Yeah, but there is
some black market time.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Do you still to this day, Greg, wash your clothes
and Tide?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I do? I do? Of course you do. It's too
damn cold to wash them out Tide.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
You hear that that joke is celebrating his high school graduation.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
Guys are gonna let that entertainment that that that that
deserved a little.
Speaker 11 (15:49):
More silence than That's one of the great Greg.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Is it considered uncool to use a mitt while playing
wiffle bow?
Speaker 11 (15:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Ken Allen and Greg Allen they were we had a league,
the Allen Boys, the Boys in the Warren.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
But yeah, the the the Allen Boys they use gloves,
which I I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think it's it's a little silly, don't you.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Guys think, in fact it should be. It's an un
It eventually should be frowned upon completely.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
This is and this is coming from a guy who
sold gloves, right, that's that's an honorable man right there. Yes,
I'll tell you when things changed for whiffle ball guys.
Nineteen fifty nine. F. W. Woolworth placed a giant order.
And that's that's when they built the factory. Where did
(16:36):
they build a factory, Shelton, Connecticut. Josh, it's still there.
They've never made a wiffle ball outside the United States. Still,
it's a it's a USB. That's when ESPN went there
because the very first sport they covered was backyard. They
were covering some weird stuff early on.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Weren't they believe me?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I know, I worked it, did you really?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Christy arm wrestling, curling, curling?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, don't you hear every now and then about some
I know a comedian who has like Wrigley Field recreating
in his backyard for one.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Oh yeah, that's actually I think is a manager of
a yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is Asina? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
I think there's the guy named Rick Ferrell made a
replica of Fenway in Hanover, Massachusetts. They have the World
Whiffleball Championship. That's that started in Mishawaka, Indiana by Jim
Bodorf and Larry grow and that is still pretty much
(17:38):
the premier championship. It's it's it's moved around several places.
But they have new bats guys made from like aluminium,
carbon fiber fiberglass. The moonshot bat is uh around two
hundred bucks for a whiffootball bat.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Who yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
There's you know they have how many how many cuts
chick are in that ball?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
How many holes?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I'm going to say six, that's a good that's a
good game.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Josh eight, Pat, I'm gonna go six to it's eight.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
It's eight oblong eight oblong cuts on the half of
the ball. My buddy John Drexler in high school had
an oblong head.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, I remember that football brain. Remember that's what we
called it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Any holes in it?
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Uh no, No, he's you know, and he's a he's
a he's a very handsome guy. But his head was
slightly oblong. That's hard, I'm telling you. A very handsome guy. Yeah, check.
But it's just slightly oblong, not like Herman Munster or something,
but it was Yeah. My last point on wiffleball. My
my favorite thing about that ball was uh. When it
(18:49):
came in the box. It was like a black and
orange box and it said uh, a two words sentence
with an exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It curves, I remember.
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Speaker 6 (00:59):
I feel a little embarrassed writing you about this, but
here goes Anyways. I don't have a lot down there,
if you know what I mean. I'm eighteen years old
and could tell the first day we showered in Jim,
I wasn't like the other boys. What hope is there
for me? With only a pinky's worth of pork signed
hopeless in Huntsville. All right, Well, first off, mine, I
(01:22):
gotta beit it took a lot of balls to write
that letter. To my face, I swear to God it did.
I mean, ain't everybody gonna have the gift of girth
like I do? We can only go to bat with
what God gave us. It sounds to me like you
need to learn to bunt sign if. Anyways, The point
is there's still a purpose for your pork, but it's
up to you to find the right game plan. First off, man,
(01:43):
most women don't even know the difference unless they've been
around a block a bunch, and I've been with a
few of them girls. I've been with some girls that
have tried on more pork swords and shoes. If some
can be cruel, I remember Angel Skinner telling one ex
boyfriend that it felt like someone was picking her nose
down there. To God she did he's still in counseling.
Talk like that can cripple a man. First off, mine,
(02:06):
if the girl starts doubting what you got downstairs, just
tell her the less it weighs, the longer it stays,
and who cares if you ain't packing like everybody else,
embrace it, stand up, speak up, and being continent about it.
Be like, hey, baby, I'm locking lit a candy bars
at Halloween. I'm fun sized. I swear to God you should. Hell,
I've known a lot of guys that bowled three hundred
(02:27):
games without using sixteen pound balls. The point is, you
got other aspects to your.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Game you can talk up.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I had a lot of friends I wrestled with the
bragged about having big guns. But then word got out
they had quick triggers. So which is worse. Secondly, shave
the shrubs or lube the pubes because hair hides inches.
Everybody knows it. If you don't want to cut them,
at least wet them down. I'm just saying, if it
looks like the perm on Richard Simmons, you're carrying way
too much cover.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And look at it this way.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Not everybody can bench press the same Not everybody runs
the same speed. Now everybody gets the same grain defensive driving.
That's life, So start looking at your upside. Taylor, you
got some stay in power telor you're double digits at
least in the metric system for Taylor, Hi, baby, at
least I got fat fingers.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Either way, you have options hopless. I swear to God
you do. I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's our way of making sure you haven't missed anything.
This is Bob and Tom Extra and Tom. We have
a special guest joining us the studio. He's a singer.
He's a songwriter. He is Edwin McCain. He's hanging out
with us. We'll talk with Edwin momentarily.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
Right now, we're going to switch to the satellite where
we have one of the stars of nate Land on YouTube.
It's the great comedian Greg Warren, who's new special on
YouTube on Nate Land is called the Champ.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Hello Greg, Hey, Tom, Hey guys, how's everybody doing.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Great?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Congratulations on the terrific new special. Thanks buddy, Are you home? No, No, that's.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
All okay, because I was gonna say, I see a
tell hanging from the door.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh yeah there. Just straight up a little more.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I'm gonna post garden in the most giant headboard I've
ever seen on a bed. Or maybe it's the uh.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
I think it's No, you're right, it is. It's a
giant headboard.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I asked for those, all right, Well, yeah, they certainly
came through for you.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You need some more bottles of water.
Speaker 10 (04:22):
Too, you know, yeah, hydrating and I'm happy to see it. Greg,
you gotta stay hydrated, I peeked, thanks, Josh.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
I don't know if you noticed, Christy, those are predominantly
heavy on.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
That's right now, you got that special.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You're all money. Yeah, that's uh, that's Nate Land money
right there.
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
By the way, you owe me twenty bucks pal okay.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Is that for your joke in my special?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, it's just in general, like twenty years ago, loan
your twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, sorry to shout.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I saw some video of you over the weekend. That's
some sort of wrestling.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
You you were standing in front of two naked men
wrestling and portrayed in granite? Is that right? Am?
Speaker 9 (05:02):
I close to what you were looking at? That was
from earlier this past month. I was that was at
the Louver Chick.
Speaker 11 (05:11):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a famous.
Speaker 9 (05:14):
Wrestling statue, and I I broke down the technique of
this statue. He said, this is the way I used
to do this. It's far more effective. He kept saying, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (05:24):
The guy was working a move called the guillotine, which
it's France, so it's fitting. It's a bit of a
high school move chick if you if you want to know,
Oh good, yeah, it's more it's not really a college
is it illegal? Oh yeah, it's legal. Yeah yeah, I mean,
but I mean you're not going to get in it
in college.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know. I have a question.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
There's of course the famous illegal full Nelson and then
the half Nelson. Was there someone named Nelson that developed that?
Speaker 9 (05:51):
Uh, you know, I don't. I don't know that. That's
a great question.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I would think with your years of wrestling in high
school and college and state champion, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Said he you would have found that out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, two times state champion. I do want to point out,
but two I.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Call him a two timer Tom the deuce. And you're
not even allowed to mention anything about a state championship
unless it's a two timer.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay, I see, Yeah, well maybe one day.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
Typically you're talking to me like I'm a one timer
and disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
He's one timing.
Speaker 10 (06:24):
You, man.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We should explain to Edwin.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
On the show, Greg will do a deep dive into
an unusual topic, say peanut butter and he'll go deep.
Perhaps you should go deep on the names of wrestling moves.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I could do that I could do that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are there any others that we would have heard of it?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean they very regionally.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Tom, I mean, uh you know, uh say like a
cow catcher. That's that's a different move in certain parts
of the country. Oh yeah, some people. Yeah, that sounds
like a sex move or the rusty Gates.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Oh wait, no, that's lacrosse.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I don't think that's in ed when I know, you know,
you're a rock star.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
You guys have different experiences on the road than comedians do.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Our hotel rooms. I don't know all these sex moves,
you know, all the moves.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Now, have you chosen a topic to go do a
deep dive in today?
Speaker 9 (07:20):
I did, Tom, I wanted to discuss today the the
history of uh whiffle ball.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Oh yes, I love I'm with you chick, one of
my all time favorite activities.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
So do I, So do I, guys, And you have
David Mulleny to thank for that, a former semi pro pitcher.
A lot of those old guys will say, like, guy,
was this semi pro? Which I what is it? Were
you in the minor leagues or not? It just sounds
a little bit phony to me. But this guy, mister Gertner.
(07:52):
He was my neighbor when I was growing up, and
he said he played semi pro baseball. He said he
also played semi pro tennis, semi pro basketball, all in
semi pro hockey. So it's one of those things like
what the more he said, the less I believed in.
He also had He was a good guy, but he
had a lot of advice. Uh, my friend Ted Rueger
and I one time, my dad told us to cut
(08:13):
the lawn, and uh, we thought it'd be funny to
carve a curse word into the lawn.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That is funny.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
And mister Gertner came by and he's like, you guys,
are you're cutting the wrong all along?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
All wrong?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
You got you didn't understand what we were doing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
He's like, you go in rows, you don't go on
this running around. You're like, he didn't see the swear
word that we were.
Speaker 10 (08:37):
What did it start with? You really went all out? Yeah,
we were idiots.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So once you got the lawn mode, is that where
you played ball?
Speaker 9 (08:53):
We did play some whoofleball back there. Checking those they
got pretty uh and thanks for that transition. But we
played quite a bit of whiffle ball and it got
very emotional. It's a very emotional game. Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Did you have the lawn chair as the umpire?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Right?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
Oh yeah the strike zone yeah yeah hit that right. No,
we didn't think of that, but that's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
We hired an umpire at one point. Rob Wetzel had
to come down an umpire for Wow. Yeah, we paid
him like three dollars. Yea, Robbie needs to hey quit
quit in the fourth inning. We got yelled at way
too much. Yeah it was. It was invented patented in
nineteen fifty seven. David had he had a son and
(09:47):
his son was out playing, uh, he was playing ball.
They had a broomstick and a plastic golf ball, and
they were also trying to throw a curveball. And David,
as a supposed semi pro pitcher, knew that when kids
throw a curveball, that's the easiest way to hurt your arm.
(10:09):
So he was like, I'm gonna try to find a
ball that will curve easily. He was also out of
work at the time and he had a buddy. This
is this is crazy. He had a buddy that worked
at the Colt Firearms Company now Colt Firearms when they
weren't making guns, they were making packages for Cody perfume.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You want to talk about deversification.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
Yeah, they they were making packages and and he he
the package.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Was like a ball.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
It was like a white plastic ball that they put
the perfume in. So he got his buddy to give
him a bunch of these packages. Luckily his buddy, for
all of us, was not a bricklayer. Yeah, so he
started fooling around with making a whiffle ball, and and
that's how we made the whiffle ball. Now, when they
(11:04):
are manufactured, there's two halves, guys. You have the half
with the holes in it and the the half without
the holes in it, and they fuse them together.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I suspect there's.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
Quite a bit of rivalry between those two sides of
the business over there at whiffle Ball.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Where'd the name come from?
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Well, uh, from whiffing, you know, striking out with whiffing.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Or you don't want to go off up there and
whiff tom, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
So do you think the guys are making the half,
the solid half have some kind of beef with the
Swiss cheese half?
Speaker 9 (11:39):
And yeah, I think it's the other way around. Josh,
the other guys are doing a lot more work. Those
guys are like, yeah, well, well yeah, you're over there
on non hole side.
Speaker 11 (11:48):
You guys knocking off at noon every day, and they
didn't pay the same you get. Maybe it's a situation
of like, hey, man, you know you're doing good work
over here.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I like what I see.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
You keep it up, We're gonna put you on holes.
What else have we got, well, tom our boy David
Mulleney sold these things out of his car at first?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Was it just the balls or did he have something
to do with a bat as well?
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Just the balls at first, Josh, back came like three
years later, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
There was there a lot of people going, boy, I
wish I had something to hit this ball.
Speaker 10 (12:25):
Well, so they were mostly stickball, I guess yeah, probably
stick probably stickball, or maybe even just uh maybe they
played it with a wooden bat.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
Really, yeah, Josh, I know you said you enjoyed wolfotball,
but you were in the sporting equipment business for a while.
Did you guys look down on wiffle ball or did
you see them as a competitor over at rollings or.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
We didn't we saw wiffle ball as a gateway to
using Rolling's products.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So we we we see.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
We encouraged, we encouraged with the ball, so that eventually,
you know, those interested in baseball and stuff would start encouraged.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So like financially encouraged.
Speaker 10 (13:02):
Is that what you're saying, Hey, hey, hey, uh look
some of us may have uh been not everything was
on the level money.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, the money changed hands at any point.
Speaker 10 (13:11):
Well, we don't like to say that. We like to
say favors were done. I'm just gonna leave this right here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Now, is is there a an off brand Whiffle ball
or does Whiffle have a patent that's still out there?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Awful ball is uh not a very good product? Uh,
that's right there in the name. No, I'm not. I
don't know. I would imagine there is.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, well you know that plastic bat and ball. The
ball is solid plastic. I mean it's hollow inside, but
there's no holes on it.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Yeah, that I don't I never played with that though.
That seemed like that's not You can't curve it, No,
you could, you could crush it. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
would go along, especially when those try it, big red bats.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh, they take big red bats.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, large the torpedo bat, of the plastic noise.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I've just heard the sound in my head, Yes, I
heard it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Josh is a guy uh with brothers.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
If you were in the pool and you got hit
in the back with the whiffle bat, which one hurt more,
the big red one or the yellow ones?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It did?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Did? It did hurt more.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
It's not going to hit the ball farther, but it
hurt more when it hit your back.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (14:29):
Yeah, they sold these things out of He sold them
out of the trunk of his car. Which men, We've
been through a lot of these reports and men, they
were selling a lot of stuff out of the trunks
of cars back then.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
They sure were.
Speaker 11 (14:39):
And it seems like you don't need to you just
say you sold it out of the car. We didn't
think you were selling it out of the hood. I
don't like where this is going. I got a trunkloaded
my albums out there. I'll take one of Edwin. I'm
a big fan, Josh, pick me up one of those.
I'll reimbursh you. I'm a big fan in I'd love
(15:00):
to have one. Uh, if you could sign it, that'd
be great. What's what's sold out of the trunk of
the car today, guys? Besides Edward McCain albums, I usually
stolen TV sets. But you open up the box and
it is full of bricks.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You know what, though, they tend to be a little
bit more organized now. They'll take over like a corner
of a busy street and there'll be you know, blankets
and all sorts.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Of Tide detergents.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
It's a Procter and Gamble product. I'm gonna have to
look into that, that fine product. Yeah, but there is
some black market time.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Do you still to this day, Greg, wash your clothes
and Tide?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I do? I do? Of course you do. It's too
damn cold to wash them out Tide.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
You hear that that joke is celebrating his high school graduation.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
Guys are gonna let that entertainment that that that that
deserved a little.
Speaker 11 (15:49):
More silence than That's one of the great Greg.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Is it considered uncool to use a mitt while playing
wiffle bow?
Speaker 11 (15:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Ken Allen and Greg Allen they were we had a league,
the Allen Boys, the Boys in the Warren.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
But yeah, the the the Allen Boys they use gloves,
which I I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think it's it's a little silly, don't you.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Guys think, in fact it should be. It's an un
It eventually should be frowned upon completely.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
This is and this is coming from a guy who
sold gloves, right, that's that's an honorable man right there. Yes,
I'll tell you when things changed for whiffle ball guys.
Nineteen fifty nine. F. W. Woolworth placed a giant order.
And that's that's when they built the factory. Where did
(16:36):
they build a factory, Shelton, Connecticut. Josh, it's still there.
They've never made a wiffle ball outside the United States. Still,
it's a it's a USB. That's when ESPN went there
because the very first sport they covered was backyard. They
were covering some weird stuff early on.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Weren't they believe me?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I know, I worked it, did you really?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Christy arm wrestling, curling, curling?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, don't you hear every now and then about some
I know a comedian who has like Wrigley Field recreating
in his backyard for one.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Oh yeah, that's actually I think is a manager of
a yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is Asina? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
I think there's the guy named Rick Ferrell made a
replica of Fenway in Hanover, Massachusetts. They have the World
Whiffleball Championship. That's that started in Mishawaka, Indiana by Jim
Bodorf and Larry grow and that is still pretty much
(17:38):
the premier championship. It's it's it's moved around several places.
But they have new bats guys made from like aluminium,
carbon fiber fiberglass. The moonshot bat is uh around two
hundred bucks for a whiffootball bat.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Who yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
There's you know they have how many how many cuts
chick are in that ball?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
How many holes?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I'm going to say six, that's a good that's a
good game.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Josh eight, Pat, I'm gonna go six to it's eight.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
It's eight oblong eight oblong cuts on the half of
the ball. My buddy John Drexler in high school had
an oblong head.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, I remember that football brain. Remember that's what we
called it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Any holes in it?
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Uh no, No, he's you know, and he's a he's
a he's a very handsome guy. But his head was
slightly oblong. That's hard, I'm telling you. A very handsome guy. Yeah, check.
But it's just slightly oblong, not like Herman Munster or something,
but it was Yeah. My last point on wiffleball. My
my favorite thing about that ball was uh. When it
(18:49):
came in the box. It was like a black and
orange box and it said uh, a two words sentence
with an exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It curves, I remember.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
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me with rapid fire takes.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
And a lot to get to you, and I'm not
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even care if you like all of it or not.
I have a job to do scorching debates on any
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Speaker 4 (19:30):
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Speaker 5 (19:32):
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