Ep. 6 - Lynelle Kristine | Energy Healing & How to Get Unstuck

Reiki Master Lynelle Kristine takes us through the reasons why we get energetically stuck in life AND how to shift into a healthy space where we’re unstuck! From grounding techniques to removing negative energy from our space, this podcast is designed to help you heal from the inside so that you can live in a healthy place in your personal, professional, and spiritual life.

Episode Transcript

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This is FCB Radio. We're realclock Lives. Visit us online at FCB
radio dot com. Mission We holdBack the I'm Andrea Echio. You're listening

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to the bounce Back the podcast.If we can change one person's life for
the better by sharing our story,then it's a story worth telling. Life
is a mixed bag and there's somuch of the good stuff all around us,
but it's the failure, pain andsetbacks that can make us feel stuck.
The teachable moments come from how webounce back from our struggles. You're

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about to listen to an incredible storyand lessons learned from the bounce Back.
I wanted to do a podcast centeredaround the idea of feeling stuck in your
life. That could mean stuck ina bad relationship, stuck not knowing what
your next move will be in yourprofessional life, stuck in your own negative
mindset, or just boredom of beingstuck at home. On a personal note,

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I've been feeling creatively stuck during thisCOVID quarantine and frustrated with myself for
not pushing my self imposed growth boundaries. As I facetimed and connected with friends,
I realize that I'm not the onlyone feeling this way. There are
a lot of us who are feelingstuck and want to figure out how to
get unstuck. Luckily, I havea unicorn in my back pocket to help

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all of us. She is ahealer in my life and has taken my
spiritual practice to a higher level.And yes, every time I get stuck
or hit a wall, this isthe woman I call or visit to work
through my mental blockage. Linnell Christineis a riky master, a pediatric aspice
nurse, and a healer. Duringmy bounce back journey, I learned that

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we all have old stories we tellourselves and labels that we wear. Those
stories and labels can leave us feelingstuck and living in a place of unhealthy
energy. This podcast is about recognizingwhy we get stuck, how to ground
ourselves, and how to unblock thejunk that's holding space in our minds and
around us. Okay, I feellike we should start with how we met.

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Yeah, I was going to ayoga class and I saw online that
it was yoga with a combination ofraiki and I thought, Okay, I'm
down for that for sure. SoI go to this yoga class and I
had never really had true raiki performedon me before, like people who are

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kind of dabbling in a little bit, and so they're like, I want
to try it out on you andstarting to get into raiki, and I
don't know if it was like aplacebo effect where I'm like, hey,
no, yeah, oh yeah,that felt good, and really in my
mind I was like, I don'tknow what this is all about, but
it wasn't working for me. ButI'm in this yoga space and I remember

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the first time that you came overto perform ray ki at me and how
good it felt. But throughout thisclass, I kept thinking to you,
Okay, come back, because nowI need you to work on my feet
because I feel like I need tobe grounded. And then I and you

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would come over and you would workon my feet and ground me, and
I go, okay, now comeback because I've got this pain in my
neck right, So I kind likein my mind saying to you, I
need you to come back and workon something for me, and every time
you did, and so I leftthat session and thought, Okay, that
was amazing, and then I sawthat this was being offered again, so

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I went back a couple weeks laterand was the same kind of thing.
And after class, I said toyou, Okay, I mean, I
don't know what you're thinking, butI'm connected to you. So do you
can you feel that with another person? Can you feel a connection or are

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you feeling connected to anybody in aspace when you are doing raiki on them?
So in the class and even youand I talked about it. I
think it was right after that classwhen you said, you know, I
asked you to come back to me, and I just looked at you,
remember, and just smiled, andyou said, did you know? And

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I just smiled at you. Becauseit is hard to put into two words
to describe to someone the feeling,so my hands often I try when I
in that space in that yoga class, I usually start at the back and

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I make my way around. Butoften it is the poll almost where you
can just feel someone you're drawn to, like almost their spirits calling out to
you and just needing, needing help. It's like they sense that you could
come and help is probably the bestway I can give it to you.
So even in your and working thatday, it was beautiful because I am

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very much drawn to where I'm supposedto go. And sometimes it starts just
very basic at someone's head because sooften we hold things in our mind and
so it's an easy place to start. But then as I flow and just
kind of let my hands go oversomeone, it's very much spiritually guided like

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direction. So if someone is holdingsomething in their gut or maybe their throats
feeling closed off, my hands mightbe guided just to put one hand on
the like right below their neck chestarea, and then the back, so
like the hands are connecting together inthat space to kind of release what's there

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and allowing them to breathe into it, and then gently leaving and moving to
the next person. But again,most of the time, it's being drawn
to someone who may need you alittle bit more in that space. So
I always try to get everybody atleast three times in that class. But
often I will go to someone whomaybe it's just where I'm drawn, like

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their spirits kind of drawing, it'scalling out to you a little bit more.
Yes, Rayky's become a huge practicein my life, and I feel
like on my path and my questto tap into this energy source within and
be more connected to the divine andmy spirituality. I really love the practice

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of raiki, and when I talkabout it, people say, well,
what is it? Yes, andI feel like I've never quite defined it
the right way, like I knowwhat my experience is it which I can
get into. But in the mostsimple way, really, what is raiki?
So it is a form of likeum energy healing. We all have

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this energy within us and going scientifically, you know, you can call it.
It's known, it's there. It'sa fact that there is energy within
us. It can be looked atscientifically. If you're go on a spiritual
end of things, you can callit, name it whatever is right for

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you. For me, it's likethis divine light within us, this spirit,
this soul self. So we havewithin you know, it's like this
energy that flows throughout us. Butoften we can hold old stories, heaviness,
a trauma within and it's like wecreate these energy blocks and within and

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sometimes if you go deeper and understandingchakras and stuff, they're held in these
different spaces within our body. Sothese energy, this energy that flows throughout
you. If you have a blockin an area, let's say it's your
throat, Let's say it's your voice. Maybe you have a trauma there,

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maybe something where you've had an abusivesituation where you lost that voice, you
lost trust in your voice. Sowhat I feel is like a heaviness there,
and it's almost like this energy yourbody is this beautiful, beautiful gift
and it's so smart, there's suchan intelligence within it. So the flow

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will end up just flowing around it. And often when that flow goes around,
I mean, we need this energyflowing throughout us in a regular,
healthy fashion. So often when thoseblocks are there, sometimes that's where you
can see disease come and you cansee like maybe cold or going on a

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deeper form, it could go intoa very deep conversation about different types of
diseases that can come up from thoseenergy blocks. But ultimately, so I
go in then, and it's avery for me, a very divine connection
from source God that kind of openmyself to whatever is meant to flow to

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the person my hands are, somy hands kind of guide over and then
come to those block spaces and helprelease that energy so that you can flow,
you know, freely throughout the body. And then you feel this heaviness
lift from you and you feel thispiece there's a bit of piece there.

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But often when we're when we whenthat healing comes to you and you you
feel that connection, it also isa space to meet those old stories,
you know, the old traumas,the old just words that we may keep

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on such a cellular level, andit's like we've talked about this before.
It's almost like you have this,this is your house. This is your
beautiful house that is yours, thisbody and within we have this beautiful soul.
But sometimes we take in words,we take in other people's words,

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trauma, abuse, whatever it mightbe, from childhood, up, old
past lives, wherever it is,and it's it's like we wall paper it
inside of ourselves. So it's layerupon layer upon layer, and it builds
within and and so sometimes that's whyif you meet another when you think you're

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healed from something, or you've movedon or you've let go of something,
and yet you meet maybe a newsituation and you suddenly feel it so hard
and heavy, it's because we trulyhaven't freed ourselves from that story and freed
ourselves from that ikey wallpaper that weallowed to kind of stick within. And
so part of the healing is justallowing yourself to meet those spaces, allowing

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yourself to kind of look at thatwallpaper and just allowing yourself to let it
go. So a lot of thesewounds that our physical self carries, whether
they have manifested in physical ailments ormanifest through a mental illness, it can

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come in many different ways, right, all of often that comes from an
old story. Yes, often it'ssometimes we almost forget yet. So I
can be in a session and itmight be something from childhood, something from
middle school, something maybe we're rememberingin that space in that healing, you

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know, something that suddenly we're seeingthis picture. I've had people like,
oh my gosh, I'm seeing thisperson from middle school that I used to
feel bullied by. Why am Iseeing them right now? And it's just
when you meet back to that spaceand you can go that far back,

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it allows you then to kind ofsay, okay, this makes sense why
even now as a grown adult,where sometimes if I hear these same words
like why it's uncomfortable, why itbrings out this like heaviness within me and
um, but we can it's easyto kind of close those doors, so

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to speak. Yeah, it's easyto meet something. It's like me by
them. Yes, that's what wedo, right, We bury them within
ourselves as like a protective coding.So what can happen then when you go
into a ray Key session is thatyou're working to pull that up to the
surface so that it can be releasedin a different way than talk therapy,

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right, because people go to talktherapy, you're talking it out right,
where you're trying to pull back thelayers, whereas in ray Key the recipient
isn't necessarily talking at all. Imean, I've never talked in a session.
You did say sometimes people can endup feeling emotional depending on what you
are uncovering or what comes to thesurface. I thought it was interesting in

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my first session with you. Yousaid, often for women you're like intestinal
sort of lower area, it couldstart to make a lot of rumblings and
noises, right, which I alwaysjust think, like, oh, that
either means them hunger or like Iate something that could be a little uncomfortable

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here. But you said that's notreally the case. Often. That's because
for women, we hold a lotof stories in our reproductive area. Is
that right, Yeah, there's sowhen you do a session and you're moving
energy around, if you think aboutyour whole body and when you have this
energetic you have like your skin,you have below your skin, you have

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your muscle, and then below thatyou know your skeletal system, your bones,
and then below is this beautiful energythat flows within you. So when
you're going through and you know,and hands are going over and you're meeting
these spaces, when you're clearing ablack you have the energy flowing around.
Well, you don't hear it somuch, you know over like your solid

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organs, but you know when you'reand your abdominal area, it's just you
know, you're intestines and just allthe quote unquote juices just flowing there.
So when the energy is shifting aroundand moving and releasing and your opening this
and even you can be freeing somethingfrom the head, but you'll hear the
shift as the energy is able tomove and flow, and the belly I'll

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just start making rumbling noises. Butit's just often because I get the head.
It's just you have brain skull.So but in as far as where
we often hold things like our gut, the solar plexus, which is you
know, go right below your ribcage, around that area above your belly
button. And you know, thoseare a lot of you know, often

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like the words, the stuff wehear, and as women we tend to,
you know, throughout especially young middleschool, we're very sensitive. You
know. There's not too many ofus, even those that can go I'm
not sensitive, I'm strong, I'mwell. Often it's just they buried a
little different, you know, andand and can kind of put even even

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harder layer almost over it, likeoh nothing, I'll get me, nothing,
I'll bother me. And that's awhole other that's a whole other walk
for them. So often we carrylike these old things in the voices we
hear from friends, like the middleschool that we all dread, and we
all teach our children like just getthrough it, just get through it.

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You know, girls are all shiftinghormonally, So should we not be doing
that then when we say like,oh, just get through it and it's
going to be okay, it'll bebetter. Is that not what we should
be saying to our young girls.Well, honestly, I can tell you
when my daughter was a middle schoolor I used to tell her, you

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will get through this. You haveto be have compassion where each of you
know what you're feeling yourself hormonally,the the imbalance that it kind of can
feel like or shifting into a womanand um and you can um. You
know, you often can take thewords of another and it can hurt.

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You know. Girls are finding themselves, finding their clique, so to speak.
And so we would talk about justlike, have compassion. Don't you
don't know where they're at, butbe kind to yourself. Try not to
let those words come in or ifyou breathe them in and they feel yucky,
like let it go and know it'snot yours to take. So even
when I do, when I've doneclasses with that with the age group,

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the middle schoolers, it's so oftento try to help them at that early
age understand that the words of anotherare not what you have to wallpaper within
you. Those aren't just that's notoften. That is something that's on their
journey and something that they may eitherstrug going with. So being able to
look at them with compassionate eyes.It's not enabling it. It's not saying

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that I should let them do that, because by all means you could say,
you know, that's hurtful, butyou don't have to take it on
you don't have to breathe those words. And so I like trying to teach
them at an early age that youdon't have to let that those words wallpaper
your space and it doesn't have tobecome like that. That's a really important

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message. I mean, I thinkas adults it's an important message. But
I think starts to filter in andbe ingrained in us at an early age,
where the labels that are placed uponus, we start to where we
start to carry and then they stickto us and we allow them to define
us. Right, someone else isgiving us that definition, and then over

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a period of time and over manyyears, then we just wear it.
Yeah, and so it's harder toget rid of it. Yeah, and
you and just even becoming an examplefor if we have children, for our
children, but even the people you'rearound, you know, and it's it's

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not allowing. It's so often lookingand knowing that the words of another that
may be hurtful or sound hurtful,instead of us trying to take them in,
having compassion in the moment, maybelooking at where do we lie with
those words? And but often it'snot about us ever taking it in and

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allowing it to define us. Youknow the especially the negative obviously words,
and sometimes when you and hear itso often in the healing work is when
it becomes so common. Like ifyou've been in an abusive relationship for years,
well, it's easier to hear thosewords that you're you to than to

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hear the words of like gosh,you are beautiful, and gosh, you
have such a light about you,and you're amazing and what a gift you
are. Often those words are harderto take and to try to change because
on such a cellular level that's allyou've heard for so long, and so
it's giving grace to that when youare with another and trying to help peel,

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or if you've come into a relationshipwhere that's just all they've heard,
but now you're this beautiful light forthat individual and are trying to show them.
It's being patient with the healing thatthey are going through. Does that
make sense? It does make sense. It does because I think so many
of us and again I'm going togo back to, I feel like this

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is something that's really difficult for womenright is being able to accept and give
thanks for the qualities that we havethat are really beautiful and positive so that
when someone gives us a compliment,we have a hard time often saying,

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oh, thank you so much,because either one they're the old stories where
we haven't heard that because of thenegative words of others or at a suffering
abuse, or we feel like it'segotistical to accept that compliment right whereas we're

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doing ourselves a disservice. So so, if someone finds themselves in that space
where they've come from something negative orunhealthy, or they've worn or they're wearing
those old labels that are not positive, how do you move into a space
where you start to accept like thebeauty of who you are? It is

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I feel one thing to always startwith and is most often that person just
needs to be ready, and usuallythere's something that ignites within them. Perhaps
it's just a friend that has comeinto their lives. You know, there's
so many gifts who are all givenon this journey and people and sometimes we

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just don't even realize like how they'rejust the vinally put in front of us.
And when you have that moment thatyou're like it's like it's like living
in this dark shadow and suddenly thislike stream of light comes in and be
it a person, be it ayoga practice that you decided to just show

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up at, maybe a friend's likelet's just come with me, and the
voice of the instructor, or theenergy you felt from another just it was
like this ray of light in thisdark shadow that you've been living for years
or lifetimes, and that could bethat opening that allows you to feel that
light. It's like being in thehouse for so long and you come out

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and feel the sun shining upon youand you're just like, wow, that
is beautiful. I want more ofthat. So often when that is often
how it happens is either you justfeel finally ready, like I don't want
to be living this way anymore,and you're ready to start and being so
graceful for the time that it takes. It's not an overnight thing because you

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are meeting these layers into fully findlove within yourself. Because every layer,
no matter what walk we've been on, I always tell people as a part
of us. So when people say, oh, did you release some bad
energy, I'm like, oh,my goodness, there's not one part of
us that is bad. You know, every part of us is a layer.

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Each layer is a part of us, and therefore beautiful because when we
start defining any part of ourselves likeugly, you know, it's it's hard
to some it's an easy space tokind of go back to, you know,
versus like, you know, it'sjust a story. I'm just really
trying to let go of. Alwaystell people we have this if you want

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to see your journey as this bookof life. We have chapters we go
through and sometimes something from chapter fourmight show up in chapter sixteen, and
often those things are just like it'svisiting you for a reason. It's visiting
you for Okay, what am Imeant? What am I meant to let
go of? Here? I notfully clear myself of. So always tell

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people when you start this healing journey, always give grace that sometimes things will
come up from an old chapter,but it's mostly there to say, Okay,
what maybe did I need? Whatdo I need to let go of
a little bit more of here?And when you could find grace and love
and compassion in it instead of feelinglike, ah, I'm falling back in
I'm falling back into that space,and instead meet it with grace, such

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grace and just love for yourself,it's easier to kind of go, oh,
okay, all right, maybe I'mstarting to you know, maybe I'm
starting to be okay with something thatI shouldn't be okay with. That was
a huge lesson that you taught meto meet something that was sticky in our

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lives with grace because I think sooften I used to say, like if
something would show up again, itmeant we were being tested by the universe,
And you've really shown me that that'snot necessarily what it is. There
is a lesson to be learned.But when that was a game changer for

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me when you said, if youjust meet it with compassion and grace,
give love to yourself, because Iremember like, and usually it would have
been like with old relationship type things, where I go, why did I
do this again? Like I thoughtI learned at the first time. Why
why am five thousand? No,I haven't dated five But if it's like
if it's showed up like over ahalf a dozen times, I think,

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like, what am I getting wrong? I thought I got this right,
And you would say, give yourselflove and grace. You have learned something.
So rather than beating ourselves up becausewe do that, don't weet,
oh, really beat ourselves up.It's easy too, and it's easy to
go back to that space. Youalways have like two roads kind of that

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you can meet, you know,if you think about it. You can
have the highway that is just soeasy to jump on and just like,
well, I'm meeting this and I'mjust gonna jump on the highway and run
away from it as best as ican go. Or you have the beautiful
dirt road that may have a coupleof rocks bumps that you're meeting, but
you're meeting it with so much loveand you're moving through it. Because often

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we can race by things, canrace by them. I used to go
running. I used to run marathonsso that I could just run so instead
of if I had a moment whereI was just felt completely just knocked down
to the ground, well I wouldjust put my running shoes on and I
run just run. I'm like,well, I just run away from it

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for three hours and I'm going tobe golden. And then when I finally
stopped and I finally got more intomy yoga practice and more into just sitting
with it, and I had tosit with it and like, okay,
tears, everything flows and you're sittingand having to meet the spaces. But
I did it with love and Idid it with grace and it was so

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hard. But it's you know,years of you know, just meeting those
spaces and they would come up,like you describe, like you meet that
person or you have a relationship,but you have children with the person,
so you have to meet them sometimesand sometimes something could happen that just brings
that you see those words again,you see that wallpaper, and you're like

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no, no, and instead it'slike, well, of course it's going
to hurt, of course seeing thatit's going, but you're not those words.
I'm not those words. I'm notI'm not any of that, and
I am love, I am light. And it soon shifts and you soon
see that it's okay that you mightfeel it for a moment, but you're

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not letting it sink within anymore.And that's the work. That's where it
takes time. Because you do meetthose spaces. It's like you sort of
touched on in relationships. You know. You may some people grow up watching
one like their parents, you know, and maybe that was a difficult and
that becomes a norm, that justbecomes what you know. So when you

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now enter into a relationship, youfind that you're kind of picking the same
things. And then but pretty soonit's like that light bulb, like,
oh, this doesn't feel so goodanymore. And you begin to notice as
you're moving through relationships, and eventhat could be on a career level,
friend level, that you're suddenly wantingmore out of something. You see your

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own value, you see your ownlight. And it's just like if you
think of a tree. You couldstart off like the base of a tree,
and you singularly bring different relationships andthey different they branch off. But
if you think about it, asyou learn and you grow, it's like
you're blossoming. Yeah, it's likeyou have to give so much grace to

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what the work was to get there. Let's talk about that whole concept of
growth too, especially because of wherewe are in the world right now.
We've had this time of staying homeand quarantining and you know, we've gone
through this pandemic or we're going throughit, and there have been so much

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there's been shifting, and there's beena lot of quiet time, and there's
been a lot of restless time,and I think just a time where people
also are feeling a little bit stucktoo, right, literally stuck. They're
feeling literally stuck at home. They'refeeling stuck trying to reinvent themselves because they
feel like, and I know thisfeeling too, where you feel like,

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Okay, well, now I've gotthis time that I wouldn't have had before.
I should be doing something really wiseand smart and fast moving with it
right, Or maybe they feel stuckin bad relationships right their home now with
someone going Okay, we don't reallyhave a lot in common, what's this
going to look like on the otherside, Or they'd maybe just feel stuck

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in like complacency and the repetition oftheir life that's prohibiting growth. Where do
we begin to get ourselves unstuck?So often? I think when you can
even the first step is knowing thatyou're there and knowing that you're ready in

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wanting because how often have we meta friend and we so see the beauty
the light and we just are tryingto like push them over the edge to
just go do it. And youcan get them to you can do those
things, but you so have tobe ready and you have to be in

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a space to want to start thegrowth want to start the healing. Every
step is a beautiful step because evenwhen you walk out of the shadow and
the light, even if it's fora moment, you felt it. You
felt it and you know it exists. So even if you know you might
fall back into it, it's likeit's the big thing is knowing is just

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stepping out again and then again andagain. So it's recognizing that the healing
exists, that you feel it.So everyone right now, it's almost like
we're being worst into meeting ourselves,you know, and meeting in those who
are don't have families, and they'regoing, whoa, this is what it

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looks like now we're really holding upthe mirror right, yes, And you
have that time to center alone andand I do. I talk to dear
friends who you know, I havekids, I have people that I can
you know, still and I'm working, so I'm still surrounded by people and
patients, and but you have peoplethat are just locked in and learning about

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themselves. And then, like yousaid, you're in also some of these
people are in moments where whether it'sa significant other and you're in quarantine,
you're together all the time, andit could be a beautiful time to just
explore one another, like really takethe time to get to know each other
and get to know yourself and andin that it could be you we were

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talking about before. You could bea space of like, you know,
you can come out blossoming and bloomingand together is one and growing, or
you find that it's a space oflike, wow, what have I you
know, what am I doing here? What am I? What am I

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trying to grow? What am Itrying to move? Do we really know
each other and just taking the timeto get to know each other and to
find each other and finding yourself.So like if you're but if you're in
this space and you're feeling really likejust like a blockage this because I know

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I've felt it too, Like ohmy gosh, I got all this time.
I should be like coming up withthe next great idea and like right,
hustle, hustle, hustle, right, that's so ingrained in our brains
right, the whole like hashtag riseand gr right. I don't like that
hashtag because it seems like such acliche, but I but I get the

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whole concept and the feeling of likeI don't want to come out of this
and go why I didn't have anygrowth, Like I didn't have any movement,
any quantifiable movement. Right, Maybethat's what it is, because there
still could be growth and we justdon't recognize it as such. So for

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like somebody like me and others whofeel that way, like I don't have
the quantifiable growth, what do wedo with that? Like what do we
what do we make of that?To like make peace with that? So
I think it's important. This timeis and we've heard it everywhere all over

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the place, is just settling andgrounding And even when you look at doing
the healing work, so often it'sit's we're feeling when you feel it in
another we're just or off balance.This is a very unbalancing time. Being

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forced to sit also means that youare also forced to kind of meet those
layers within you and meet some oldthings that might be rising up and grounding
yourself. Being able to go outand just walk in the quiet and just
allowing yourself to kind of feel thesethings that are coming up or maybe ideas.

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When we are in a space ofgo, go, go all the
time and move, move, move, we can allow the ego to tell
us what we want like I wantto go conquer the world. I want
to go make a bazillion dollars.I want to do this. When we're
forced to kind of quiet ourselves andreally take the time to ground in and

(35:52):
just center into our own consciousness andjust really allow it to guide us,
there is just a flow that cancome through you and the ideas, and
it could be such a quiet thing, and it could just be a shift.
We talk about journaling, you know, when you're walking and just being

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able to sit and if you can'tsit, I mean, if you can't
walk, it's just you can beable to sit and meditate. And meditation
can be very hard for some individualsto do because we have this talking,
you know, chatting brain. Yes, it's hard to quiet the brain.
But if you have or even thehouse sometimes, right, I think of

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parents who are like, oh mygosh, I've got like my kitchen table
is now a mini school, andyou know, there's just a lot of
chaos, and people have chaos withintheir home, So meditation probably seems like
an impossible feat, right, Buteven in that case, it's like taking
your kids. And again, whatwe talked about earlier is just how important
it is for kids to even doand just closing their eyes and for kids

(37:00):
and even to have something for themto think about, like maybe writing things
they're grateful for, or writing thingsthat, you know, maybe a prayer
they want to give out and justwriting or allowing them just to write their
thoughts, their wishes, their dreams, just anything that comes to them,
to allow them to sit and havethat moment with themselves. And while they're

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doing that and you're within your ownspace. One thing I think that can
happen or be helpful is when thatchatty brain comes through. There's different exercises
you could do with like sometimes tellpeople to visualize like a conveyor belt,
so when those words are coming throughand the thoughts, it's like, okay,

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see them coming across, and thendrop it off, you know,
or allow them, and then prettysoon it slowly stops and you're now in
your own space. Another thing todo is when you're meditating there, take
yourself to a space that is sopeaceful and beautiful for you. So if
it's the beach, imagine yourself justsitting at the beach and when that chattering

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mind comes up, think of someonethat could be a mentor. It could
be someone who's not even you knowon this earth right now, be mother
Teresa, or just someone that youcan imagine sitting next to you, and
allow this conversation to flow. Andwhat ends up happening is you end up

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having this flow of like guidance isthe best way I can describe it.
So when we can quiet ourselves tothat space often a wealth of ideas,
and you have your journal there andyou just write words, even if it's
words of like writing like maybe you'remaybe you have this writer within you that

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has not blossom. Maybe you havestories that you could tell that might shape
and shift somebody else. But whenwe can allow the ego mind to quiet
and just go to that other spaceof more, just that divine connection we
talked about and allowing that to flowthrough and being so graceful with it.
That's the part sometimes we think inmeditation you have to be like Buddha and

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floating away out of the I cantell you. For for me, I
have to do for my exercise,I often have to put my music on,
I do my breath work. Butwhen the chatty mind comes up for
me, I have to do that. I put my person and I let
them I feel like I'm talking nextto the river with a rushing river,
So there's I can't hear anything ofmy ego trying to talk because I'm focused

(39:38):
on this river like churning, andthen this voice of this person that i'm
you know, and it's it's beautiful. There's also um and a form of
active meditation, right, So ifsomeone is not going to sit down,
which I do think, the quietspace is really important, like a lot

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of clarity can come and like yousaid, those those divine conversations like between
you know, our spiritual self andthe other side, happened during a quiet
meditation, but it can also happenduring active meditation. How would you tell
someone to take themselves through an activemeditation? So for people who can't get

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out, or people that are justreally solidly at home or just can't move
because of disabilities or illness, whatwe just talked about is a great space
to be in there when you canget out and kind of ground and just

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move because often people need to move. Often people when you're not getting the
chattering of work or like the gogo, go go, you can be
on foot and you can be walkingand you could be grounding and and as
you're moving, you just allow yourselfto breathe and feel and connect. And

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when you start feeling that chattering comeup. There's so many I wish I
could head it in front of me. But I'm sure you've heard like the
whole connecting to trees use Japan orbut you but part of when I was
going through my growth and learning andyoga practice and reiky practice, we had

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part of our practice was walking likewalking meditation like and we'd move through the
parks, but we had to gofind a tree that we were drawn to,
and you had to sit against thetree and just sit and just feel
the energy of the tree, feelit connected to you, feel the life
of it. And it allowed youas you were concentrating feeling the tree,

(41:52):
you don't realize like, oh wait, all this other stuff's coming through and
oh wait, I'm not thinking aboutwork, I'm not thinking about this,
I'm not thinking about and you findand it's it's kind of this bit of
not unbalanced, but this transitionary pointwhere you're moving from the ego to more
of just centering in on yourself.And so as you're walking, you just

(42:16):
find a space and when you needto move again if you feel that uncomfortability
or sometimes it's hard to start feelingthose layers I'm healing and it can feel
like a heaviness in your chest sometimesjust continuing to walk, touching the tree,
touching the leaves and just connecting likethat and just moving. I know,

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I know it's been said like ifyou because I want to talk about
grounding. You've mentioned grounding a coupleof times, and I want to talk
about how to do it. ButI remember, I don't know if it
was from you that I heard thisor I read it somewhere like it's really
good if you can get your barefeet on the ground in the grass,
like connected to the soil, right, that that is a great way to

(43:00):
just connect with the earth and begina grounding process. And it isn't the
solely the way you have to doit if you're not into that, but
there is something about like your barefeet right the skin touching mother earth.
Yeah, that is a really likeI don't know, it is a it's

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like a cleansing feeling. I didit. I don't know. Is then
like I kind of like sixty somethingdegree day in Cleveland that so long ago,
I had to go get the mail. I'm like, I'm going to
go out without my bare feet andthen I'm just going to put them in
the grass because I can't go anywhereright now except out in nature. And
that's what I think I'm going todo. And there was something about it
that like took me back to mychildhood. I think, like it felt

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you feel very free, right,You're like your feet are free, they're
a little bit cold, they're alittle bit wet, they have the feeling
of just something that's so natural beneaththem. But so I don't know if
that's where you would say you'd startwith grounding, But for anybody who hasn't
taken in themselves through a process ofgrounding, and you don't need to be
enlightened to do this, right.You don't need to take yoga. You

(44:07):
maybe you don't even meditate, Butbut learning how to ground yourself is a
technique that I feel like every humanshould learn and put into practice. So
how do you do it? Youknow, it's like you just describe a
beautiful thing is being able to gooutside and just take your shoes off and
letting your feet sink into the earthand letting it's like feeling every pad,

(44:34):
every cell of your foot, thatbase your foot, just touching the earth,
and there is so much healing fromthe earth. And whether you see
it as Mother Earth or whether yousee it however you see it. If
you look at life and you lookat the earth, there's life there.
There's life in the grass. There'slife. Even when you think of the

(44:55):
snow, I mean the water,it's the snow and obviously not taking your
shoes, although people you know peopleground into the coal, and but to
just sit and feel the energy.So we have this energy that flows through
us. So when we're feeling offand things like what's happening right now in

(45:20):
the world, and we feel unbalancedand we feel this huge shift within and
around us, it's beautiful to evenjust ground and you can be in your
house because there's energy, there's lifewithin it. So feeling the energy and
the life within the ground, youconnect your own energy to it, and

(45:43):
it's it's just settling you in.It's almost like rooting. It's it's imagining
yourself, rooting your feet down,pulling yourself down, reconnecting yourself when you're
feeling unbalanced, and if you andyoga come into mountain pose and just where
your eyes are closed and your palmsare forward, and it's like taking in

(46:06):
life through those palms. I alwaystry to tell people feel like the life
force. Feel that energy coming throughyour palms and just feel it glide all
the way down to your feet andjust imagine these roots from your feet just
grounding and pulling you down and reallyconnecting you. And it's so important just
to pause, and it could takejust a few minutes. So even if

(46:29):
you're going through your work day andyou're even if you're in a high office
tower, just allowing yourself just toput your feet down in your office space
wherever you're at can just allow youto to settle. It allows your energy
just to kind of reconnect and justto flow, just to kind of allow

(46:51):
the mind to just settle for amoment. And it's so easy to do.
Often what we feel in the momentcould bring up things, and it
could it may shake us for amoment, but you breathe, you inhale
into it, and you just rememberin that moment, I am just grounding,
I'm centering myself back and it isit's it's like a reset, it's

(47:14):
resetting the body for a moment andthen allowing yourself to move. You know,
does that Yeah, no, itdoes. It makes It makes perfect
sense to me because it's something thatI try to practice. But I think
there are times when we have whetherit's chaosk going on around us, or

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people maybe are feeling a little bitof a depression, or again just like
kind of a staleness or feeling stagnant. We get off of our routine and
so we get away from some ofthese things that are a typical practice for
us. It's really important to rememberto go back to that, right Something

(47:57):
as simple is like standing in yourspace, yeah, with your feet on
the ground wherever that is inside oroutside, palms forward, and just like
stopping yourself and kind of breathing inand out. It sounds so basic and
so simple, but it's been aroundfor you know, lifetime, so there's
a reason why people continue to practiceit. And it works, even if

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it's just to kind of get youthrough a moment. Well you said,
when you touch even with like depressionor feeling sadness, often in those moments,
we almost feel like our life force, like that inner life force is
almost diminished. We don't feel asconnected to it. So being outside and

(48:44):
connecting with life out there and justtouching a tree and always tell people when
you walk, like let your handjust glide and touch a leaf, not
pulling the leaf off, with feelingits energy, and you could pull it
and just hold it and rub itthe rest of your walk, but just
feeling and touching. And in thosemoments where you are feeling like that life

(49:05):
force is just diminish, that lightwithin you for whatever reason, is feeling
like the candle is burning out,you know, reconnecting with life and it
doesn't have to necessarily sometimes we don'twant it to be people in that moment,
we don't we want to be alone. We want to be but going
out and connecting with life and natureis a beautiful thing. And even within

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yourself, you know, placing yourhand on your heart and the other hand
over your hand and feeling your lifeforce within, knowing it's there. What
does that symbolically do when you putyour hand in your heart and then your
other hand to like in other wordslike shelter or hug your hand. What

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is that symbolically doing well? Inthis In this moment, it's like you
feel that life within you. Youfeel your breath, you feel that you
are alive and feeling it's almost likegiving. I like to think in this
moment when you're outside you can feellife within the nature, but when you're

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forgetting for a moment, just givingthat love back to yourself, feeling it
within, when your hands on yourheart, like feeling the pounding, the
beating of your heart and just whoyou are and that you are alive and
you have this breath, this beautifulbreath that flows through you, and this
beautiful heart that is moving and keepingevery cell going even in those moments that

(50:38):
feel dark, feel unsteady. Forus, it's like coming back and feeling
your own life force and feeling thatbreath within you, because so often it's
coming back to that breath and comingback to knowing it's your breath. You
control it and until the day nolonger have it. And that goes with

(51:01):
the other work I do, butbut so often it's just reconnecting with yourself
and I love within. When thestay home and the quarantining first started,
I had hopped on a FaceTime withyou early on and it was just on
the heels of me feeling like Ihad about five days where I was completely

(51:23):
neurotic and a bit unforgiving of myselfbecause I felt like, Oh, I've
done all this work, and I'min a place where I have so much
peace within, so much happiness,enjoy all those things still get existed.
I don't tend to be like someonewho would freak out or be fearful,

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but I just felt totally neurotic,like right, like a lot of other
people like, oh my gosh,I can't get toilet paper. I how
many cans of beans and tomatoes shouldI have? I don't know if I
have enough frozen vegetables. Am Igoing to need to get a lot of
water? Because what if something happensto like the waters system? Right?
So I just like all of thesewhat ifs, yeah, and luckily got

(52:06):
myself out of that. But Iremember you saying to me people need to
just be able to feel their feels. Yea, feel your feels, right.
And I don't know where we allare on this. It's been quite
a road, right. I thinkit's highs and lows and acceptance and then
like kind of some people are overit, others are still afraid, and

(52:29):
so I think we've got that goingon too, right, now in the
world where you have people who feelone way very strongly, some who are
just on the total opposite side,some maybe like myself, or somewhere in
between. Because there's so much informationand depending on who you talk to,
you could like flow one way orin another. Maybe we should talk a

(52:52):
little bit about that, about allowingpeople to feel their feels. And again,
I think that also goes back tothe word of like compassion for where
somebody is, even if it's notin your space. Yes, so you're
so right, because everybody flows ontheir journey differently, and what we forget
is there is there are within peoplethings that we have no idea, layers

(53:19):
that are arising for some and perhapsbeing in a you know, being in
a room with someone that you tryto run away from most of your days
and now you're in this space withsomeone all day long. And so there's
different things that a lot of usjust don't understand that someone else could be

(53:42):
walking through during this journey of quarantiningand being inside. And also the fears,
Now some of the fears, it'swe can choose to stay in those
fears, we can choose to livein those fears. And again it goes
back to like we you know,on a cellular level, there's stories and

(54:07):
things that traumas that have just sunkinto people on such a cellular level that
it just flows through them. Soyou meet a space like this that's scary,
or you meet something and someone mightbe feeling at tenfold, but it's
deciding do I live in this fearor do I accept what's happening right now

(54:30):
and just feel what I'm feeling andtry to move with grace, with love,
compassion, like moving through and notjust sitting in that space of fear,
you know, and we can sitin that space and just listen to
the news the whole time. AndI know I had to kind of shut

(54:52):
down for a little bit from socialmedia and looking at different things because even
I like to think I have thisgreat, like beautiful filter, you know,
it began to be a lot andjust a lot and just flowing through
and almost to a space where it'slike, well I'm pretty good and I'm

(55:13):
not. You know, you werestarting, Yeah, I was like do
what you know? Is my voicequieting for a second, So I had
to pause for a moment. AndI want to ask actually about that too,
because there is a lot of whetherit be the news or especially on
social media, right, Like,you can read so much negativity, and
then depending on who you're occupying spacewith or who you're facetiming, facetiming or

(55:38):
talking with on the phone, therecan also be some negativity. What can
we do to protect ourselves from negativeenergy so that it doesn't live inside of
us and doesn't creep into our spacebecause it's impossible to avoid it. Yes,
Unfortunately, there are just going tobe people who are negative. So

(56:00):
can we do so that it doesn'tseep into us and we aren't carrying it?
Like? Are there physical things thatpeople can do who maybe don't have
your gift of being a healer butare still able to protect themselves? We
see, it just starts with thatconscious choice. As soon as you hear

(56:21):
it, you know, to eitherwallpaper it within you and you take it
and respond, or you feel it, you feel the words, you feel
what someone's saying, and you youjust don't allow it to kind of you
can breathe it in and let ittouch you and you're like, yep,
I don't want that to come in, Like that's not something that I'm gonna

(56:43):
wallpaper in and you just allow itto be now, giving compassion where people
are at, like we could allhave we could all be in the space
of like going back and forth allthe time and disagreements of when we read
stuff. You know, it's easyto take a quick response and go,
oh, I completely think you're offthe wall, or I completely think you're

(57:07):
out of left field. But that'sjust where that's what they're feeling in the
moment, and that's where they're at, and you know, we can have
judgment to it and respond to it, or we just stay in our kind
of stay in our lane and beat peace with where we are for ourselves

(57:29):
and have greece with it. Itdoesn't make it okay, It doesn't you
know, it doesn't mean it's rightor wrong. It's just where that person's
flowing if you live with the personright, Like sometimes it's one thing to
you're chatting with a friend and youknow, or you see something they post
on social media and you that seemspretty angry. I'm just like, I'm

(57:54):
gonna move along so I don't haveto keep looking at that reading it,
or I can you know, getoff the phone quickly. What if it's
in your own it's like under inyour own space, under your roof.
So I think in those spaces,and it's like anything when you have a
disagreement with a loved one or um, it's it's respecting where they're at and

(58:19):
maybe perhaps giving them a moment,giving them a moment to say, Okay,
I appreciate what you're saying, butyou know, if you're wanting to
have a dialogue about it, butreally hearing what they're saying and where their
point of view is at, becausemaybe there's something we're missing that you know
that they came to that conclusion.Yeah, I'm always a fan of that,

(58:42):
you know. I. You knowI love human connection through uncomfortable conversations.
Right, yes, again, let'sa talk on that. But I
and not because I love uncomfortable conversations, but when it's with somebody who you
care about, if you can approachit in a way where you're not trying
to force your opinion on them,but in a situation of what we're talking
about right now, where you know, we're quarantine. You're living in a

(59:07):
space with somebody who's sounding so negative, whether whatever it is that they're complaining
or being negative about, to beable to say, hey, can we
just stop for a minute and talkabout it? Because I've noticed that you
seem like unsettled or upset about this. Can you tell me a little bit

(59:28):
more why it's the most beautiful giftyou can give. Another is just saying
tell me where that comes from.But you are so right. Uncomfortable conversations
can be difficult because we have tosit. We have to sit there and
with so much love allow them toflow their thoughts without judgment. So to

(59:52):
be able to sit and just letit flow and not insert like why we
think they're why we think they're wrong, but just to listen and allow them
to flow and then have that dialogue. Okay, well, I see where
you're coming from, but this iswhat I'm feeling. And if it ever

(01:00:15):
gets if it's to the point whereit's like, wow, let's agree to
disagree. Then also you still setup your boundaries. It's like setting your
boundaries within your working environment. Whenyou flow to the grocery store and you
feel someone in front of you,like you can feel their energy, you
feel like, oh my gosh,I don't know what's going on with them

(01:00:37):
today, but they are like rippinggirl, I have felt before. I
know you. I mean, Iknow you do because of the work you
do. But I've gotten to thatplace too where if someone is carrying a
negative like source around them, ohyeah, I can feel it, and
I for a long time, Ijust go, oh, I got to
get away from this. I don'twant to be near it. Yeah.

(01:00:59):
But but when you do more growth, you get to a place where you
almost I mean, I believe inprayer, so you have to almost say
like a silent prayer of like sendingsome kind of love or positive energy their
way. Yes, and it is. And so when you're in the home
with someone and there's just you're disagreeing, and it's not about who's right or

(01:01:21):
wrong, it won't it to comeinto a conversation with an intent of trying
to be the quote unquote winner ofthe conversation, like who's right who's wrong?
Most often there's never well, therereally is never a winner, you
know, because each person's opinion isvalued. And but it's just about they're

(01:01:46):
feeling something in their own space andyou're feeling something in your own space.
But when it gets to that spaceof like okay, now it's really negative
and crossing into you know, intothis beautiful boundary, this beautiful my beautiful
space, my or my energy tomy space. This is when you say,

(01:02:07):
I appreciate your words, but maybewe just agree to disagree, and
you know, you stay on yourside, not literally, but you know,
yours, yours, you have tosay yeah. And then even when
it comes to children and stuff,because then when you have children in the
house, and I mean it's alsothem. We all have these rules right

(01:02:30):
now that we have to follow,so trying whether we disagree, agree,
whatever we're feeling, we're all flowingwith it. So it's like, Okay,
this is how we're feeling, buthow can we flow to just meet
it where it's at, you know, so rather than are resisting it.
Because I think that's what's happening alot right now is there's just so much
resistance with all of the information that'scoming our way. Whether the information is

(01:02:55):
coming via feelings or something that we'rewatching on the news, or something that
we're reading on social media, whateverit is, there's a lot of information
coming at us and we may notbe vibing with all of what we're hearing
or communicating or feeling. Yeah,but when we resist it too much,

(01:03:20):
Right, that's just going to bea real big headache. Well, and
it's about control. So there's somuch with control here because we are out
of you know, we don't havecontrol over this. By nature as human
beings, we want to be incontrol in the driver's seats, yes,

(01:03:43):
And you have people who that's howthey live, and you know they are
used to being in control. Theyare control of their families, they are
control of that can go on awhole other spectrum and conversation, but control
of their income, which now maybethey don't have that coming in or it's
been sliced, and so there's justlike losing control then brings on a whole

(01:04:08):
other onslaught of emotions, worry,fear, anxiety, depression, you know,
they may turn inward or maybe we'renot communicating properly. Yeah, it's
just messy. It's it's so messy, and it's so you know there there's
where it's like you can be angryat the system. You can be angry

(01:04:28):
because we are out of control andresisting it and so but being able to
pause and kind of just okay,I need to just let go of this
and I need to be able tojust find And this is the part on
the other spectrum is as we letgo and realizing we don't have control over
this right now, and what canI learn? What can I grow from

(01:04:54):
this from just truly centering in andjust being in this space and being in
this moment, And it allows youto recognize how much we truly don't have
control over things. You know,we try so hard and it ends up
eating us alive at times, becauseit's just like trying to stay in a

(01:05:16):
job that we clearly know we're nothappy in, but we're like, well
it does X, Y and Z, and this is and I have control
over it. I can be inthis, but perhaps there's something that the
universe is trying to give you overhere in the right lanes. Surrendering there's

(01:05:36):
definitely that is a huge message forso many of us. I mean,
I know for me, at first, like I told you those first five
days, I was neurotic and I'mreally I'm going to haven't been working,
not the way that I would havebeen working before, and so a lot
of worry can come along with that. But then at some point you shift
into that place of gratitude, rightbecause anytime you're in fear, anger,

(01:05:59):
or worry, you always go,okay, go to a place of gratitude
because that may sort of stabilize themoment. I thought, well, I'm
going to have a roof over myhead, i have clean drinking water,
and I know I'm not going tostarve, so I'm in pretty good shape
then, because I know there arepeople out there that may not be in
the same boat. And then hadto start looking for what was really great

(01:06:23):
about this change, in this shift, So I think instead of focusing on
what was taken away and what theworries were and the uncertainty of what's to
come, instead it was I amso loving that I'm having Alexa play DJ
in the kitchen with my boyfriend andwe're like, play this by Warrens and

(01:06:47):
then play this by bon Jovi rightlike for some reason, a lot of
hair bands or like sticks, likewe were playing like all these old love
songs from like the eighties and ninetiesand dancing and singing, which I mean,
I never want to stop doing.And I don't know if it would
or wouldn't have happened. So Ithink right now even I see a lot

(01:07:09):
of families who are finding those momentsthose special moments because we've had to be
creative. Yeah, and hopefully thatcreativity won't be lost on the back end
of this, right, Yeah,because there's just so much that and like
you said, looking at families,looking at families walking together, being together,

(01:07:33):
the time they're getting together, andor if you're by the way,
if you aren't, Because I thoughtabout what about the people who are alone?
Because that one I think, becauseI know there's somebody out there going,
Okay, well I don't have children, or I don't have a husband
or a boyfriend or a girlfriend orwhatever or any partner, that's the time

(01:07:57):
to really it goes back to likelooking inwards. I think that was the
importance of this time, right tolike the discovery of self. Yes,
because I've talked to couple dear friends. I'll check in on who are alone
at home, and you know,they'll go walking with family members or just
socially distanced. They would walk orget to see people at work, but

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otherwise they come home to a quiethouse and it's just and that's the biggest
thing is like, Okay, whatam I supposed to get out of this?
What am I supposed to learn?Grow? And even just what do
I want when I do have thenext relationship? What am I going to

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be looking for? And because nowI'm discovering this newness about myself and just
this love and love. Yeah,and it's like laying groundwork. Yeah,
that's the thing, right, Likeif you're going to write a movie script,
well, what are the characters names? Where is it going to take
place? Like what's the basic story? That's the summary of the storyline,

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right, and not going to writethe whole thing at the beginning you don't
know the ending yet, Yes,you got to get you got to lay
the groundwork. And that's so oftenif we can just not look for the
endings of our stories all the timein life in general, when we try
to have this fairy tale ending atthe end, we're missing a lot of

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really beautiful things that are right therealong the way. And there's we ourselves,
like finding ourselves self love is pivotalin any growth, in any relationship.
So being able to have that timeto just center in on yourself and
just loving the hell out of yourself, loving the hell out of yourself and

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just meeting that wherever it is,and that can go to every part of
our body spiritual, physical, mental, and just really connecting with yourself,
learning like who am I? Youknow, in finding that love within,
because when you can do that tothen be able to give that to another,

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it's like you know what you want. You know how beautiful and important
and exciting and just entity you are. So when you meet things along meet
people along the way, it's like, you know, thank you, but
no thank you. It's just likeyour stand not even standards, because it's

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not about when you meet someone.We all know how it goes when you
first meet someone. Well, everyonehas their guard up a little bit to
begin with, but it's like freeingyourself into knowing that you don't have to
settle in a space and that youjust truly loving and centering. And so
I feel like I love that,love the hell out of yourself. I
feel like that's where I should endit on love the hell out of yourself.

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But I have to ask before wego. I have to sneak in
one other thought because I feel likethe greatest lessons we learn we often learn
from children. They're so wise beforewe start messing with their precious little brains
and program in a different way.But a huge part of your work.
I mean, we talked about theraiky side, but you professionally also are

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a pediatric hospice nurse, so thatis well. First of all, I
told you it was like you area special person, like that's just an
angel on earth to do that kindof work and walking with children as they
are getting ready to die. Butin that, I know you've had so

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many beautiful experiences and have so manygreat stories to tell. But given all
that we've been going through and someof the exchanges and the lessons you've learned
from children, what would be maybeone of the great stories, the great
lessons that you've learned from a child, that you feel, like those of

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us who are here today living throughall this could have a like a big
aha moment or a great takeaway.So you know, my love for kids,
you know, I just love havesuch a love and respect, yes
for them, And I think thegreatest thing in the world to give a
child is respect. So often wethink of this higherarchy and life like I'm

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older than you, I'm wiser thanyou, and being with these kids so
often and an end of life inmy own children, they can teach us
more in their little lives than sometimeswe've learned in our own lives, you
know, for whatever reasons that wehave blocked it. But I think when

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people say, like, no,how did your kids turn out this way?
And I have to say, it'salways respect. It's like, you
know, this is just as hardon them. This is just as hard
on them. They are going througha change and a shift as well.
But even outside of this, it'slooking through their eyes and seeing the joy,

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seeing the fear that they may have, and just respecting them. So
often they might say something out ofanger, and sometimes a go to is
just a punishment, immediate punishment,like go to your room, you can't
talk that way. But we havemissed this whole, like okay, they
may need to go breathe for amoment in their room, but going in

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and saying, tell me what's goingon? What's going on with you?
You know, why are you feelingthis way or what made you say those
words or what took you to thatspace? And so I think respect is
so important and being with these kidsat end of life and they say some

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really incredible things to you. Theydo. I mean, you've told me
a couple of stories, but maybeis there like one that you would be
willing to share of something that justI don't know. It just makes you
go wow to look at them andwonder and go, Okay, there's a
lot of wisdom in that little one'sbrain. You know. I have to

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say so often just when they say, like, if it's my time and
I'm meant to go, then it'smy time. And and spiritually even you
know, I've been with children whothrough parents don't go to church anywere more,
or don't have a religious or aspiritual background to them, and you

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meet them and then they have theseconversations with you and about where they're going
to go in the pa they havewith it, and how they worry about
their parents and they worry about everybodyelse. But they have, you know,
to be able to say, youknow, Linnell, if it's my
time to go, then it's mytime to go. And and they're how

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old if this one would be eleven, eleven years old? Eleven and some
of them are you know older,some of them, you know, are
also in a space that you know, I'm not ready and I'm not and
I have my whole life to live, and you know, and I look
at people around and this was aneighteen year old I had, And he
said if I he touched so many. He had such a beautiful way to

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look at life and just saw thebeauty and it all. He saw the
beauty of life. He had sucha Christian base, so he saw God
and everything he felt like it wasthere. And how could you even like
his peers? You know, he'seighteen years old, so we know what
high schoolers and what you're adventuring trying. So we used to say, like,

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oh my goodness, how they havethis chance, this healthy body to
take care of. How could theywant to do anything different to it?
And he said, I just wantto teach people to like just love all
the time and just how beautiful andyou know each of us are and what
you can see in another person's eyes. And I remember sitting there for four

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hours, four hours when I firstmet him, and finally it was like
at the end, probably about anhour before we finished talking, I said,
oh my gosh, can I assessyou? So we never even got
to his assessment. We just hejust started this flow of conversation that's eighteen
year old, and and it justthe view of life and so often what

(01:16:46):
we miss. I think that washis biggest thing. He said, I
wish I could give that. Iwish I didn't know. I wish I
had more time on this earth tojust teach people to just love. And
I said his name and began withthe deep but so calm, to deep,
will calm deep. But he said, I just wish I had more

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time to just show people love.And I said, oh my gosh,
I've only known you for four hourshere right at this moment, but what
you've given me is profound, andI know you've touched so many others,
And um, I think that's that'sthe important thing, is just you know,
to take this time to love.Yeah. I think that's a great

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message. There's not really a bettermessage than that. Yeah, that's the
that's the the god we should beworship, worshiping right one of love.
Just seeing the love and the lightin one another, like really seeing it
in one another. Yeah, well, my friend, thank you for this

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conversation. But how can people findyou? Oh goodness, the best way
is probably my email Linnell l nE l E. Christine KRII S T
I n E at gmail dot comright now and just connecting that way,
just even to flow a conversation.I'm always open just to dialogue. Well,

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I have so many special people whohave helped me get to where I
am at this place in my lifethat as much as there's a part of
me that wants to just like keepyou all to myself, I know that
wouldn't be the right thing to do. So I have to put it out
there because I have a lot ofpeople say like what are you doing?

(01:18:36):
Like how is your energy the waythat it is? And it has taken
work, Yeah, a lot ofwork over many many years, and I
know I've put the work in,but I've also surrounded myself and met some
really fantastic magical people along the way. You certainly are one of those magical
people. And so you know,I think we all can be in this

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place. So if you're in adark place, you do not have to
stay there, and it is possibleto get out. So when you see
other people who are bright light,it's very it's a very real thing that
you can mirror that and be justlike it. You just have to find
the right people and put the workin. Well, thank you again,

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Oh my gosh, thank you.Now we're all going to go love the
hell out of ourselves. Yes,yes, thank you for listening to this
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