THE BRIAN RUST SHOW 9-11-25 RIP Charlie Kirk

Conservative Talk Radio Show with a knock-it-off attitude, live from Florida. Today's show is dedicated to the life of Charlie Kirk.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
All right, welcome to the show. I want to say
good morning, I really do not a good morning, not
a good day for America. It's gonna be a tough

(02:05):
way to get through because not simply because of what
happened to Charlie Kirk, but because of what's going on
with this country. Sure, we all at this point, and
again it'll be tough to get through today's show. Think

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I don't know the word makeup for the show, because
they would probably be running a little bit of today.
We all know at this point what happened to Charlie
Kirk yesterday. Kind of a tough day to prepare. I

(02:49):
had a much different show in mind today as we are.
We're on nine to eleven. I had a few people
that was playing to be on the show to talk
about some nine to eleven stuff I was going to
I was actually minutes away from even inviting a friend

(03:09):
on the show today to talk about his experience and
his family's experience at nine to eleven when I got
a phone call about the Charlie Kirk situation. When is
it going to be enough? I mean, when is it seriously,

(03:31):
seriously going to be enough? How much further do we
as a nation have to go? This young man who

(03:52):
you know, his his entire life really because he got
onto the scene when he was about eighteen years old.
Was about the time when he really launched, you know,
doing the whole turning point in USA, getting involved in
the politics, getting young people involved in politics, and he

(04:13):
was a good man. He was not some divisive asshole
that we see from the left on a regular basis.
He was a good man. There were sure plenty of
things that I disagreed with with Charlie Kirk. There were
things that I don't agree with the way that he

(04:33):
said it. No doubt, he was not a perfect person.
And again, any time that you find somebody that you
one hundred percent agree with, there's probably an issue. And
there were things that I didn't agree with all the
time with Charlie, but his mission I agreed with. I
agreed with it one hundred percent. This is a man

(04:54):
who his idea was to get out and let's talk
about this, launching his take back America or what is
it America? Come back to her where he was going
to go to the colleges where thousands yesterday's event there,
it was estimated in a little over two thousand people

(05:17):
had shown up to see Charlie Kirk to hear the conversations.
And that's the thing, is the conversations. And this is
what too many of the hateful people in this country
do not understand. It's the conversation. Let's talk about this.

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What is on your mind. What are your thoughts on this,
Let's talk about it. I'm going to give you my opinion,
you give me your opinion. Maybe we'll both walk away
from this and feel a little bit differently. That was
his mission. His mission was to make this country a
better place, not just in a physical way, but in

(05:58):
an emotional way, in in a spiritual way. And sure
he did often make religious spiritual references.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
And.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know he uh, you know that that might not
be somebody's thing, but it's okay because you don't have
to always agree. And even though he and I probably
agreed on a way more than than would ever disagree,
there was always going to be something that I was
not going to agree with, whether it was how he

(06:32):
said it, you know, maybe what he said, maybe slightly
different opinion on something. But the man was a good man.
And the uh, the thought right now that that I'm
just having the hardest time with. I mean, obviously, this

(06:55):
this ongoing destruction of our country from people who hate
this country. Which point playing if you don't like the country,
get the f out leave. You do not have to
be here. And the idea that that you have got
to spread your hate to the point of taking another

(07:17):
person's life because you disagree with what they said. I mean,
it's it's just it's a horrible concept that your feelings
are hurt so a man must die. Yesterday in the office,
we were watching Fox News for most of the coverage

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of what was going down yesterday. And what I saw
the the video, I knew it was over. I know
that they spent a good hour and a half two
hours of the hopes, the the idea that he was in.
I knew it was over. I knew it was over

(08:00):
when I saw it. And as we're watching Fox News,
as they were talking about it, despite the country, despite

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the politics and how we may have differences of opinions
on some things, the thing that leaves me the absolute
most heartbroken, and again Fox News had they had shown

(08:47):
this video multiple times, and just thinking about it just
tears me up even more. And that is the video
of Charlie Kirk. He was doing Fox and Friends one
morning and he's sitting on the couch and the video

(09:10):
is actually coming from the side of the stage and
his little girl goes running out to him. She goes
running out to him, jumps up on his lap. They
embrace each other. And now because of an individual who
is a worthless scumbag of a human being, who, in

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my opinion, should be put down in just as lethal
of a way. Because of that individual, that little girl
is never going to run to her daddy's arms again.
So was it worth it? I mean, was it really
worth it to silence a man who had a different

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opinion of you? And now that young little girl and
of course the little boy as well, will never be
able to run to their daddy's arms again. And why
because of politics, because of a slightly difference of opinion.

(10:24):
It's just sad that we have gotten to this point
in our country. And this is the thing that I'm
upset about. I'm not all that. I mean, I'm upset
about the Charlie Kirk assassination without a doubt. I mean,
it was a tragic thing, something that never should have happened.
But I think about his little daughter in that video again.
It tears my heart apart every time I see it.

(10:48):
But we are as a nation, we have gotten to
a point where this is where we are, where we
have to get down to political assassinations. And let me
tell you, I've done a lot of soul searching throughout
the night because I needed it, because yesterday when all
of this went down, I probably would have become a
very violent person myself. I was. I was beyond pissed off.

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And I think there was a lot of people in
the country, in the world feeling the same feelings that
I have or had. I don't think I really slept
all that much last night because thinking about the nation
and where we have gotten to the fact that we

(11:32):
have gotten to this point, and of course our politicians
get out there and honestly, I wish they would all
shut the hell up to The last thing that I
want to hear right now is another politician getting out
there and talking about how we need to you know,

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we need to work on this and and and give
their stupid speech like one. I am going to play
the audio from the Utah Governor Spencer Cox when he
did his when he did his press conference, and I
cut out a section of it, the beginning of it.
And the reason for why I cut out the beginning
of that audio was because this is not the time

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for the standard thanking everybody. And I honestly I hate that.
I mean, look, I love our law enforcement. I'm glad
that they are out there I'm glad that they do
their job. I'm thankful for all of our law enforcement
when they do their job. But when a tragic situation happens,
like the Charlie Kirk situation, we do not need to

(12:39):
start things off by saying I want to thank sheriff
so and so, and police chief so and so, an
investigators so and so, and this person so. Shut the up.
I mean seriously, and especially in a time when you
have a political assassination, and that is what this is.
It is a political assassination. When you have that that happens,

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this is not the time for that. But the governor did,
he did give a speech. I'm going to give you
that audio on that, and this is what the governor
had to say.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
This is a dark day for our state.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's a tragic day for our nation.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
And I want to be very clear that this is
a political assassination.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
We are.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Celebrating two hundred and fifty years of the founding of
this great nation. That founding document, the Declaration of Independence,
that this great experiment on which we embark together two
hundred and fifty years ago, that we are endowed by
our creator with certain unalienable rights. The first one of

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those is life, and today the life was taken. Charlie
Kirk was first and foremost a husband and a dad
to young children.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
He was also.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here
on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech
and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. Historically,
our university campuses in this nation and here in the

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State of Utah have been the place where truth and
ideas are formulated and debated. And that's what he does.
He comes on college campuses and he debates as foundational
to the formation our country, to our most basic constitutional rights.

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And when someone takes the life of a person because
of their ideas or their ideals, then that very constitutional
foundation is threatened. Now we have a person of.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Interest in custody.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
The investigation is ongoing, but I want to make it
crystal clear right now to whoever did this, we will
find you, we will try you, and we will hold
you accountable to the furthest extent of the law. And

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I just want to remind people that we still have
the death penalty here in the State of Utah. Our
nation is broken.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
We've had.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination
on the governor of Pennsylvania, and we had an attempted
assassination on a presidential candidate and former president of the
United States and now current President of the United States.

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Nothing I say can unit us as a country. Nothing
I can say right now can fix what is broken.
Nothing I can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our
hearts are broken.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
We mourn.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
With his wife, his children, his family, his friends.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
We mourn as a nation. If anyone, in the sound
of my voice celebrated even a little bit at the
news of this shooting, I would beg you to look
in the mirror and to see if you can find
a better angel in there somewhere. I don't care what

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his politics are. I care that he was an American.
We desperately need our country. We desperately need leaders in
our country. But more than the leaders, we just need
every single person in this country to think about where

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we are and where we want to be, to ask ourselves,
is this what two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Years has wrought on us? I pray that that's not
the case.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
I pray that those who hated what Charlie Cooks stood
for will put down their social media and their pens
and pray for his family, and that all of us,
all of us will try to find a way to

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stop painting our fellow Americans.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
That's a Governor Spencer Cox of f Utah. You can
hear the emotion in his voice, share the sentiment, where
are we going to this country? There's still a lot
of hate that comes out even after all that. Talk

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about that coming up a little bit. Also coming up
on the show later on today, Michael Letz is going
to join us. Also, Tyler Gray is going to join
us as well, along with a special investigator. Nihlis Gravellis
is also going to be joining us later on in
the show as well. We got to take a quick break.
We'll be right back. This is the Brian Rush Show.
We'll be back.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Welcome back to the show. Thanks so much forget your
day started with us today. It's gonna be a tough show,
an absolutely tough show. The tragic loss of Charlie Kirk yesterday,
But it is so much more than the tragic loss
of Charlie Kirk yesterday. Charlie obviously larger than life. I've

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had the opportunity to meet Charlie once before, about four
years ago. I met him night, got to talk with
him for maybe about five ten minutes. Amazing guy really
was the things that he wanted for this nation, the
mission that he was on, what he was doing with
Turning Point USA, it really truly was amazing. And to

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see the level of hate that has come out from
the left, it's infuriating. And today I'm such a mixture
of emotions right now of just absolutely furious and just
upset of everything that's going on. And it's not again

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just the Charlie Kirk thing that is that is sad
in itself, but looking at the big picture that this
is what has gotten me the most emotionally upset to
we were this way. And we're going to talk more
about it coming up in a minute, because the thirty
seconds that I have left before our top our bottom
of the hour break is just not enough to get
into it shoes. I was going to talk about that too,
and we're going to talk about that coming up, plus

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what some of the mainstream media is saying. But amazingly,
there are some that I was surprised, honestly by their reaction.
I'm not sure how honest it is, but I was surprised,
but we got to take our bottom of the hour break.
We'll be right back. This is the price and rest
a show. Good morning, all right, welcome back to the show.

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Get a tough one to say good morning on this
day when we see what's going on with this country
and there's so many other things about what's going on
right now that is just absolutely despicable. Obviously, the shooting,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk is a full, full sentence

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in its own about what's going on to the fact
that that somebody or some people, and again the investigation underway,
it'll be some time before we really know. And it's
and this is one of these things where I hate
whenever there is shooting like this of any sort. And
there was also a school shooting yesterday as well, something
that probably is not going to get much in the

(22:08):
coverage because obviously today's twenty four years later, from nine
to eleven we had the political assassination of Charlie Kirk,
but there was also a school shooting yesterday, two students shot.
But the thing that is becoming more and more disturbing
is the people who despite what went down yesterday continue

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to spread a very hateful rhetoric. And there are some
mainstream media that is that ABC did have somebody on
that said some stuff that probably shouldn't. In addition to that, MSNBC.
I know this is a big shock that somebody from
MSNBC would say something. Quite honestly, after this, I think

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think that this is one of these the media should
reevaluate who they should have on is contributing members of
their shows. Now, I want to be optimistic, but I
have a hard time with it because I'm very much

(23:21):
sure a realist when it comes to things, and I
look at the big picture and I look beyond the
front scene that they put us in front of us.
I always look behind to see what's there in the
sides as well. You have a lot of people that
are coming out people that honestly, I was kind of
shocked by people saying Harry Sisson who came out, Chris

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Maori came out, and a lot of the other a
holes that are the propaganda's on the left came out
yesterday with messages you know Harry, and I think it
was I honestly think that it was heart felt. I
really do. He did a video about this, delivering his

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heartfelt message about it, and I think he meant it.
And we've seen a bunch of other politicians that have
come out and they've talked about it. We've seen, you know,
the messages of how this is wrong, that we need
to stop this. But this is the same thing that

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we see every time, and until there is actual actions
from these same people, their words mean very little. It
may be a comforting at the moment, but when I
see the same cast of characters who have called for
the violence, who have called for this being war, that

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have have shot down maybe the not the best of words,
but shot down the things that Charlie Kirk has done,
have criticized, churning point USA who has been in the
hateful rhetoric. To see them come out and be like, oh,
you know what, this is not the time for this,
We shouldn't do this. Thoughts and prayers for the family.

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Of course, also the same people who give us the oh,
don't give us your thoughts and prayers after a school shooting,
now come out and give us the thoughts and prayers.
And how horrible this is, because for a moment, I
think there are a lot of people who have gone
on in such an emotional rant politically about things that

(25:39):
a situation like this, And again, this is not a
breaking news. We just heard that. No, here's breaking news.
Here's the video of Charlie Kirk being shot. This is
the video of the gunfire going off, seeing the bullet
impacting Charlie Kirk, to the point where anybody who knew

(26:03):
about this knew that the moment that Charlie Kirk was shot,
it was over to see the video of the team
rushing Charlie Kirk's lifeless, blood filled body from behind the
scenes into an awaiting suv. When you see this type

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of stuff, sure it's going to hit you with a
bigger emotional Oh my god. But are they going to continue?
Are they going to look at this as being a
lesson of maybe the rhetoric that we have been saying
that has been so hateful is damaging this country, that
it's not the way to go that maybe what Charlie

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Kirk was doing was the proper way to do this,
the proper way by saying, hey, I don't agree with you,
here's my thoughts. Let me talk to you about my thoughts.
Let me tell you my opinion Okay, fine, let me
let me hear your opinion, let me tell me, tell me,
let me tell you my opinion, and we discuss it,

(27:13):
we figure it out instead of watching. And again, social
media has gotten really bad, and it is has given
some of the And believe me, today, I am I
am really trying to censor my words. I really am.
If I drop something today, I'm gonna try and catch
it in the sensors. But I can't one hundred percent promise.

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But when you see some of these these propaganda's, and
that's what they are, they're propagandas that that take to
social media, and it's worse on the left than it
isn't the right. I'm not going to say that the
right is not bad. I'm not going to say that
I've never said some some things, but you know when
I've when I've said some things, it's usually been because
of some of the idiots that have said some things.
But when you watch these propagandas who get out there

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and they show absolutely no emotions whatsoever. And you see
these people on the left who will say the things
that they say. I'm going to play some audio for you,
and this is again another example, and this happened yesterday afternoon.
This is somebody who is currently in our medical field, which,
by the way, in my opinion, I hope that she

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has fired today. I really do, because what you're about
to hear came out of the mouth of a Miami anaesthesiologist.
Her name is Tatiana Atkins. She works for the Larkin
Community Hospital and this is what she had to say yesterday,
and I had to edit it. But this is the

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type of thing that is causing the problems in this country.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Just said he's been one of the most divice.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Hang on wrong one. Where is this one here?

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I'm just really glad Charlie Kirk just got himself in
shot because he's right.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Empathy.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Empathy is dangerous to society, so no one should should
give a that he's dead.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
He said it.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I'm just saying his words. All I'm doing is using
his words.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You can't be mad at me for using his words.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
I think empathy is a new wave thing and is
very problematic. You right, you right, No empathy for you.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Zero. I'm glad this is a doctor. Screw you, bitch, seriously,
screw you. I hope that you lose your job at

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the Larkin Community hospital in Miami because somebody like you
should never work with patience. But this again is a
result of what we have seen with the left and
with their attitude because word affected them so much, the

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fact that that you you wanted to get out there
and and talk about your thoughts and your opinions about
political things, and you get to a point where you're
glad somebody's dead and you're using his words. Yes, empathy
is dead, but that's not exactly what Charlie Kirk was
talking about. And then you have Matthew Dowd, Matthew Dowd

(30:26):
from MSNBC. He was on Katie Terrer Reports yesterday and uh,
you know, even at the end of it, even Katie
Turrer you can hear or she was like Matthew, like, dude,
what are you doing? And this is one of the
people who should never be back on the air period
after these comments. This was this was Matthew Dowd yesterday.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
And one of the most divisive, especially devisive younger figures
in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort
of hate speech.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, again, emphasize what you just emphasize.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
We don't know any details of this that we don't
know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off
in celebration or so.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
We have no idea about this.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
But following up what was just said, he's been one
of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this
who is constantly sort of pushing this sort.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.

Speaker 8 (31:23):
And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to
hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I
think that's the environment we're in that people just you
can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have
and then saying these awful words and not expect awful
actions to take place.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And that's the unfortunate environment we're in.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
What another asshole? I mean, seriously and exactly what is
the hate speech that came from Charlie Kirk? I mean,
he's he's like I said, I had a chance to
meet him about four years ago, and my first impression
of him was what a nice guy, like a genuinely

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nice guy. I've followed him on social media for a
very long time and I've seen the stuff that he's
done and you know what, yes, you can say every
now and then, guess seems a little arrogant about his
response and some things whatever, But he listened to the
words that he says, not not the the way that
he responded to something and how he would look at

(32:35):
you after he said it. But every time he would
have the conversation. And it doesn't matter how much you
disagreed with him, you have the conversation. But where is
Where's the hateful rhetoric and the hateful words and the
hateful thoughts and all the stuff that came from Charlie
cerk Where is it? Why? Because he disagreed with you.

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So that's the reason for why the man should be
killed because he disagreed with you. One of the things
I loved about Charlie Kirk is that you know, hey,
I'm glad that all these young people are coming here
to see me. I'm glad that you're a fan. I
don't want to talk to you first. I want to
talk to those who disagree with me. If you disagree

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with me, I want you to the front of the line.
That was the way Charlie Kirk did it. If you
disagree with me, I want to talk to you first
because your thoughts they matter, and I want to hear
what you have to say exactly where where is this
hateful and this jackass to go off and say, well,

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we don't know if it was like maybe a supporter
shooting off in celebration. Are you that effing dumb?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Are you that.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Stupid of a human being to turn around after a
man was politically assassinated. This was an assassination. This was
a high caliber bullet then killed the man where he
was sitting. And you say, oh, I don't know if
maybe this was a you know, a supporter in setting

(34:11):
off a gun in celebration. The hell do you think
this is the Middle East? It's stupid stuff like that,
and stupid people like Matthew Down that continue to be
part of this problem. And again, where is the hateful
speech that comes from him? From Charlie Kirk? Where is it?

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A difference of opinion is not hate speech, It's a
difference of opinion. And then then we have the House
of Representatives, these son of a bitches. We have a
member of the Republican Party who says, hey, while we're
all here, this all, the whole thing just happened. Can

(34:56):
we can we do a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk?
And what we get from the left. If you haven't
seen the audio or heard the audio or see the
video of this, they were like no, and like angrily no.
Not one of those Oh well, maybe we shouldn't do

(35:17):
that now, or let's wait to see what happens. No,
they were angry about the fact that a fellow American,
a fellow member of Congress, had said, Hey, can we
do a moment of silence for this man who was
only wanted to make America better? And they had to
say no. Eventually it happened after they bitched and moaned

(35:42):
and whined about it. By the way, flags in the
country national or the federal facilities half staff until Sunday
at six pm, per order of Donald Trump. But hateful
rhetoric it continues coming out from them, over and over

(36:05):
and over again. And until we change that, things are
never going to change. Occupy Democrats, these jackasses posted this.
Charlie Kirk spent his entire life disparaging immigrants, disparaging women,

(36:27):
and blaming black folks, only to get shot in one
of the whitest places on earth. Now, I have in
the past made comments that things like Harry Sisson or

(36:50):
you know some of these other idiot propagandas that had
come out and have said some stupid things about how yeah,
I would love to punch him into face, and I
would I would love, I would love to actually beat
them up, punch him in the face, get into a
physical alteration with him. But no matter the stupid things,
no matter the hateful things that come out of any
of them, I never once wished, thought or called for

(37:16):
the death of them. And if today or tomorrow somebody
was to take that level of violence to one of them,
was to take it to Bernie Sanders, was to take
it to AOC or any of these others that have
a difference of opinion than I do, I would completely

(37:39):
one percent be against that. Sure, again, somebody like you know,
a hair bear, you know, punching him in a face
every once in a great while, that that's one thing.
But to take the life of somebody because you disagree
with them, with the words that are coming out of
their mouth and their political opinions, this is the type

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of stuff that has to stop. And when we have
political leaders that come out and give us their bs,
you know, typical Hang on a second, we had a tragedy.
Let me get this. I've got the I've got the
pre written. Okay, here we go. This is the worst thing.
It shouldn't be this way. We're not this type of people.
We should change. Okay, then change, get out there and

(38:24):
start telling your supporters to stop this. And one of
the things that I'm telling you I would love to
actually see start happening now is that these people that
are actually out there calling for violence, calling for public disruption,
they should be arrested. People like Maxine Waters who gets
out there and says the stuff that she says, they

(38:46):
should be arrested. The idea of getting out there and
encouraging the violence, and especially if you are a member
of Congress. If not arrested, you should should be booted
out of Congress. If you were somebody who takes to
the podium anywhere and calls for and supports violence, you

(39:08):
should be removed from Congress immediately. The political climate in
this country has got a change, because this country is
not going to get any better if it doesn't. And
the biggest fear that I have at this point is
that you're going to have people who and believe me,

(39:28):
when we were talking to the office yesterday, there's a
few of us that if we went off of the
emotions that we had yesterday, there would be more bloodshed
yesterday because we were pissed. And we also understand that
sometimes because there is history, when you look back into
history of how society has had to change when it

(39:53):
goes over the edge, that sometimes the violence was needed
to rewrite things, to put things on pau, to reset it,
to put it back on track. And sometimes I've had
that conversation that where I've wondered, where is it going
to take that I don't want it to. I think

(40:14):
that if we were to stop this rhetorica, if we
were to start encouraging people to be a little bit
more kinder to each other, we can avoid it. But
at some point in time if we do not change
the direction, this is what I fear, and I fear
that there will be a retribution and a retaliation from
somebody who may be on the right, that is on

(40:34):
the extreme side, who's fed up with it. Will it
be an eye for an eye? Because look, well, while
yesterday we were angry in the office talking about this,
I spent a lot of time thinking about it and
having a lot of things going through my head and
realize that's not the best way to do it, even
though I know how history has done and what governments

(40:57):
have done in the past, and what has been needed
to to squash that type of thing, and that has
happened in the past, and it has worked. We can
do better. We don't have to get down that road.
But if we're not careful, it's going to happen, and
it's going to be somebody on the right who's going
to say, you take out one of mine, I take
out one of yours. And where does it end. Our

(41:20):
political leaders need to be the first ones to step
up and stop this, but I don't have the faith
that they will do it. We got to take a
quick break. We'll be right back. This is the Brian
Ross Show. Good morning, all right, welcome back to the show.

(41:42):
Good morning. I'm trying to be positive now. I want
to say some good morning even though it's not exactly
a good morning in America. We are on the anniversary
of nine to eleven when we had such tragedy in
this country based upon hates. The day after the political

(42:04):
assassination of Charlie Kirk. I just I really don't know
where we're gonna go with this country. I really don't
coming up after the top of the hour, which we
gotta take a break here in a second. Michael Let's
is gonna join us. We're going to talk with him
about the situation yesterday. Also, Tyler Gray is going to
be joining us as well. Nylas Grevling is also gonna

(42:25):
Eric Grevlis is going to be joining us later on
in the show too, So hang on, we will be
right back. This is the Brian rest Show.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Good morning, Brian Russ's name, you know the brand limbing
up the airways. In this one, Melton Snowfas were the

(42:54):
fiery head talking truth. You can't always stand fast, don't
show from coast to coast. Got the facts, but it
ain't no boast. Can't give up the change and give
him a toast to the man who roast the moose.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Knock it off.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It's Rust on me hurting Ryelack care scenes the command
of done free frame in the top shot silver screen,
the first words that sparked the plane. Nothing never stays

(43:38):
the same, breaking down walls of shame. Bryan Rust is here.
The claim voices rise a thing and sore true. The
sensor to the court. All exicians keep the score.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
For Brian's battling in this war.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Knock it off, it's rust on.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Me, hurting Ryla chair usas did you mind?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
No, don't free fring in the social fillistry.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
All right, welcome back to out number two of the show.
Thank you so much for joining us today. We do
appreciate it. And one of the people that we want
to bring back on to the show, which we always
enjoy our conversation with. However, I'm not sure about it today, Michael,
lets to invest the USA. Michael, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Always approvised to wish you Brian. We thank you for
the opportunity even on today souches today. It's an opportunity
to make sure that the message continues to move forward.
And I know that's Charlie was one.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, absolutely, you know this is I think this is
a tough day for not only those of us that
are on the on the right end, that are that
are trying to make this country better, but you know,
for the country as a whole, into and to see
what they have done to somebody like Charlie Kirk, this

(45:04):
is tough. I mean, we're definitely going to go forward.
We're not going to forget and of all days nine
to eleven today, for us to remember what happened twenty
four years ago, what happened yesterday is something that we're
not going to forget. We're not going to forget the
stuff that that Charlie Kirk has done. What are some

(45:25):
of your thoughts about the situation from yesterday.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Well, I think there's no question they attempted to silence
conservative voice and they failed. What they actually did was,
you know, the same thing happened Japanese Empire started World
War Two when they were celebrating their victory at Pearl Harbor,
asked the April who was in charge, why was he
not celebrating? He said, it doesn't to celebrate. We have

(45:51):
awoken a sleeping tyger. Yeah, and they found that out
throughout the next four years. I think you're going to
see the same thing situation here and I think Charlie's
message and Charlie's voice will be magnified tenfold. And I
believe the population continues to see the evil behind this
leftist liberal agenda and how the fact that the hatred

(46:13):
that goes with it and their told purpose is control.
They're desperate. I mean, they lost control back in November
They're desperate to get it back. They'll take any measure
to do so, including assassinations. And I think people are
scritching their head and saying, Wow, if you want it
to have bad, something's something terribly wrong. And now the

(46:37):
question becomes that we find you. I and other spots
across the country have to make sure that we magnify
Charlie's voice and explain to the American populace what is
wrong with this idealistic liberal philosophy and the pain that
it causes, the destruction that it causes to the American people.
It's time to rise up again. As you have not

(47:00):
were talking earlier before the show, tiving to rise up.
Our politicians need to do the same and need to
stop the rhetoric and start performing the actions. Hear this
all the time across the country. We have done a
fantastic job of exposing the corruption that's there. What I
have people asking all the time, when's the next step

(47:21):
is going to occur? It's time for accountability in this country.
It's time to take our role for the way we
need to take it, and that is serious, and make
sure that we leave an impact for our future generation.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, I think one of the things that that may
have happened with with some people, and I'm not sure
it's enough with the waking up of what happened yesterday.
I mean, look, I've had these conversations privately. I never
really said it on the air when it comes to

(47:55):
you know, historically, when you when you look at what
it takes to sometimes right the ship, and you when
you look at it historically and going way way back,
that sometimes it took the the political assassinations to change
the direction of things. Not that I really want to

(48:16):
see it, but you know, it's a conversation that we've had,
you know, off the air, you know privately that that
is something that has been done in the past, and
we're even going back to like Roman days, that you
would get that to change the direction of things. And
I've often said in these private conversations that is it

(48:37):
going to be a situation in this country where the
political assassinations are what it's going to take to change
the country. And now that we've had this political assassination,
it really does kind of make me wonder, is this
going to be something that's going to change the direction
or are we going to see you know, continued retaliation

(48:59):
from one side to the other. Uh, you know, just
to let you know, and I'm sure this is not
a surprise to you. I got a few calls from
some of my congressional friends that live in or that
work in different congressional offices for different people, and they
have told me that, you know, almost immediately after it
all happened, Uh, their offices started getting threats, death threats

(49:22):
towards the congress people and and the staffs. And I
had several of my close friends, uh, you know reach
out to me and say, dude, you you might want
to be careful, you know, if they're going to start
doing this type of stuff. What are your thoughts on
on on where we go forward and and will we
see some more violence or what are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Well, Brian, I would tell you this. I think unfortunately,
what I'm saying maybe accurate. I don't think this is
the last. Yeah, I think you know that you're going
to see more and more of this. And why is
it going to be retaliation value forth? No, I don't
believe it will be retaliation. I do believe this. So
I believe the leftist liberal ideology is so desperate that

(50:03):
they will grasp it at any straw, and they will
view victory where there is none, And just this situation,
they won't see the magnification of the voice one hundred fold,
but they'll see is, hey, we got rid of a
conservative voice. Boy, this is fantastic. And of course you
see some of them already celebrating them, and so I
think it will encourage more of this to happen. I

(50:26):
think what needs to be done is it is time,
as we said we opened up this conversation, that we
take the action that conservatives need to take. Our voice
needs to make sure it's steady and firm, but our
actions need to prove that in any way word bagging
by action is the administration. Yeah, I believe what the

(50:49):
Americans are crying for is justified, and that is we
have shown enough corruption to a syndicated criminal network which
is the for liberal left ideology, and it is time
to hold those people accountable. And I just talk about it.
I realize it takes access to do that. We don't

(51:10):
have enough personnel or spread thin et cetera, et cetera.
But America wants to start seeing accountability. And I think
when you start taking and holding the key leadership, positions,
accountable things that have happened in the past. I think
you begin to see this wind down this violence issue.
But as long as they think their leadership is intact

(51:31):
and they have the ability to somehow even though it's
warped their perception, to regain power and control, you're a
magnification of this, not a decrease.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, I think you're right. Unfortunately, you know, and like
I said, you know, we've looked at the past, and
it was always the political assassinations that that change the
direction and change the political climate. H and and you
know it when we start looking at the you know,
the leadership.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Uh know.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
And I mentioned this in the in the last half
hour of the show that you know, when you have
people like Maxine Waters who gets out there and spreads
the the the the encouragement to be disruptive and violent
and all these other things, that these are the type
of people that Congress should probably start off with and
saying this is a behavior that's not acceptable and unbecoming

(52:22):
of you, our danger to the nation, and they should
start kicking them out of Congress. It really does need
to start with the leadership of this country. Because I hate,
I love agreeing with you, I really do, but I
hate to agree with you this time. I really do.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
I think you're Yeah, but i'd really tell the truth,
and I really tell people here's what you need to
be braced for. And remember, we're giving a solution. I'm
not just saying, hey, you know, the sky is following tough.
You're just going to get squashed. If we move on
what we have now and begin to close in and

(52:58):
hold to the leadership previously accountable, I think your operations
will be disrupted, and I think things will then begin
to come together. We'll be able to get things under control. Yeah,
what as long as there is a perception And hey,
even I've got that perception. If you really want me
to be honest on this show, well, we've done a
great job of demonstrating and showing where the corruption at.

(53:22):
But I know, and I don't have it to know
more than the American people, who mostly the American people do.
I know we're working diligently behind the scenes, but I
can sympathize that we're not working fast enough. It doesn't
seem that anything's being done. And of course, on the
other side, if you're the one doing it, you don't
see any consequences to your actions. Let's just say, as
a fuel little fire, let's do some more.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Yeah, exactly. And that is one of the things that
we have seen to the uh, the criminal element of
this country that you know, when they're they're able to
get away with things, and when you see other people
get away with things, I mean, you know, I famously
we look back to the New York City police officers
that were beaten up just randomly by a group of

(54:04):
illegals and later on that night they're being released and
flipping everybody off as they walk out of the police
station with no consequences, and they've all now disappeared into
the country. And what happened, I mean nothing, And it
just encourages more of that type of stuff, and and
you know, it's it's it's a scary thing that we're

(54:24):
at at this point. And I think yesterday's assassination of
Charlie Kirk and we have to call it that this
was not a this was not a killing, and this
was not a murder. This was an assassination. It was
a political assassination. This was not just some random person.
And I think that a lot of people now are
are are questioning because obviously it's you know, they haven't

(54:46):
got the person yet. You know, it's still under investigation.
You know, every expert that knows anything about weaponry, just
from listening to it and seeing what happened, knows that
it was some sort of a high powered rite. They
all know it came from a distance. So this is
obviously not your average leftist wacko. So do you think

(55:08):
that this could be the beginning of something even bigger?
I mean, you have groups like George Soros and all
these others that you know they've got their intent. Do
you think this is the start of something like that?

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Oh? I think there's no question in my mind. I
was on twenty three shows yesterday afternoon until midnight last night,
and I will tell you this. You know, all the
evidence points this was well organized. It was a planned attempt,
and it was done by a professional who would be involved.
You have to trace the money. Had no doubt in

(55:43):
my mind that you know, the Soros and others pay
for this operation because of just what you said. They
were logistics involved and determining spotting ahead of time, knowing
where the target is going to be, determining angles. You know,
determining the weaponry needed, the amminition, how you got to

(56:05):
get it there, who's going to do it, et cetera.
This is not, as you pointed out, some random person
walking by heard somebody didn't like God made it, ran
over and pushing in the nose, or or or start
shotting with you know, stabbing with a pencil or something.
This was definitely a professionally planned organization. He was done
with the one objective in mind. It's a silence the
conservative community. And I think that they didn't think it

(56:28):
through and it actually will do the opposite. It will
magnify the one hundred pool.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, I think you're right, and hopefully when when this
person is caught and these people are exposed on this,
that we see some serious action. And I think, you know,
going back to what you're saying before about you know,
actually seeing things happen, you know, and seeing the consequences
of the actions, this is one of these things where

(56:54):
when it happens, and if we did, if we find
out that it is, we'll just say at George Soros
organization that this is one of those swat teams bust
down doors and drag people out in their pajamas or
whatever they went to bed in and throw them in
the middle of the street, cuff them up and and
take care of it, because I think that is that

(57:15):
is going to be one of the things that the
public is going to need to see.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
There's no doubt in my mind that that what went
down yesterday was a well organized, well planned thing, knowing
their escape route, how to get out, you know what
you need, where they're going to be. I mean, this,
this was this was too well done for it to
be like you said, the guy that runs up to

(57:39):
throw the punch or the guy that comes up with
the you know, the handgun and and and pops off
a couple. It was one shot, perfectly placed. And despite
as as much as we all kind of want to
say that, you know, oh he had a fighting chance. Uh,
Charlie Kirk was dead the moment that that that bullet
hit him. I mean, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Yeah, it was a precision shot up on. It was
an interesting shot. It appears that I've studied the videos extensively,
you know, looking on the inside, and it appears it
hit upper chests the clavicle and gauge and ricrocheted up
into the neck. Of course cut the art and that's

(58:20):
why he bled out. Question in my mind becomes safety.
They had an actress to the best. He was seated,
which makes the base the best elevated. There might have
been a chance it might have stopped that round, but
you know, there's no need to could have been, should
have been. The fact of the matter is Charlie knew
what the risks were. And the reason why I said that,

(58:41):
I'm not saying that in a positive light. Charlie's goal
in heart was he wanted to community with people. He
didn't want to be in a safe, secure auditorium with
everybody having to walk through a metal detector, being screened
and limited the size of the audience. He wanted to
be in the courtyard. Can anybody want him by? I
could come by and pose a question, and he wanted

(59:02):
to expose him to the truth. That was his heart's desire.
He achieved that.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Yeah, yeah, he did, and and hopefully now the achievement
of the silencing him does not silence others because I
know that we have you know Stephen Crowder, who he
doesn't do it on the same scale as turning Point
in USA, but he does the same thing where he
will show up to campuses to have that open conversation
the whole change my mind, and hopefully this is not

(59:29):
going to be a situation where even college campuses start
doing the whole. All right, Well, for the safety of everything,
that we can no longer permit this stuff, because that
would be silencing the free speech and silencing the open debate,
which Charlie has pushed so hard to do and you know,
essentially gave his life for.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
And I can see before you mentioned that, I'm glad
you and I think the lie I could see that
rhetoric coming that the question being raised, can we continue
to have open discussions the campus or anyway quite frankly,
and you know it was no. You cannot rob somebody

(01:00:11):
the ability to have free speech and to be able
to express their opinions accident. This is some around accent.
But things happen in life over which we have no control.
But it doesn't mean we destroy everything in life to
try to protect from anything happening. You can never do that,
first of all. Second, well, that's a miserable way to live.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Yeah, yeah, it really is. And you know it's no
surprise to any of us that you know, within the
hour of the shooting happening, that we did see people
jump automatically to it's the guns. We've got to take
away the guns, and it's it's clearly not it's it's
the hatred that we have in this country. And not
to go down the political road, but we're going to

(01:00:55):
just be factual. The hatred comes from the left, you know.
Should there maybe some extremists on the right that show
a little bit of hate, but clearly the political environment
that we see the hatred today, it is coming from
the left, and it just has to stop because it's
not going to get better if it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Oh, you're exactly right. Right. I asked a question on
one of the shows I was on yesterday, So do
you think it was the Conservator or the rights record?
I said, you know, remind me was the last time
we had a bona fide validated that it conservative spokesperson
who were at killing people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
I don't recall it, To be honest with you, no,
and I can give you a handfuls on the left,
but I don't recall it every being done the right,
I said, I'd recall it or the immediate response whenever
somebody is injured to be one of those conservative right
ringers somewhere you know he had. And then of course
once you begin to look at it that, yeah, that

(01:02:02):
is not at all the case of what it was.
But you know they'll jump on that bandwagon put in
a heartbeat. Yeah, Brian, but I said, you know, you
went to church one time, and you're like, you are
an also conservative. You're the one that automatically represents a
little bit, and you're the one that calls this chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I forgot who it was that I heard say it yesterday,
but somebody relatively quickly said, you know, it was a
Trump supporter that did it, and and initially my I
had to laugh at it. I mean I couldn't even
be angry when I heard it. I laughed. I'm thinking
to myself, going, how incredibly freaking stupid are you to

(01:02:44):
come out and say that a Trump supporter would take
out the biggest Trump supporter there is. I mean, how
in the world would that even remotely make sense? So
the left that they automatically jumped to that, they jump
to the all we got to get rid of the guns.
But it's always them, at least a good ninety plus

(01:03:06):
percent plus that it is them that is committing all
of this violence, and yet claims that we need to
take away the guns. Maybe we just need to take
them away from them. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
I might use as slogan in deitie we should take
away guns, but just take away from them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's them that's doing it. It's
them that we're we're getting all this hatred from. And
and I hope that this is going to be the
last one, but I know that this that is a
a hope that is that is probably not realistic. Like
you said, there, there probably will be more, you know,
this level of hatred until it is under control. Getting

(01:03:46):
our politicians and the leaders community leaders UH to stop
with the hatred. And I don't know what it's going
to take to get them to do it. I really don't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
You know, this is a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
They're probably not I mean, you can hate as much want.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
They've got to have power, yeah, right, they've got to
have power and they don't. And they're so frustrated that
they can't even sleep, you know. I mean, they'll do
anything you get it back. And so this is not
going to end well for them. I do think it's
a great opportunity to press the administration that we need
to act a little stronger and a little quicker beginning

(01:04:24):
to show people how we're having these left quite these
left wingers held accountable for their actions. Yeah, and I'm
just talking about shootings. I'm talking about you and I
both the one to go, Brian, all the things, all
the money that's been stolen, all the I mean two
this we could take three hours all everything is we've
discovered over the last six months has happened in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, and then the three hours would simply be bullet
points and no real meaningful conversation about it. But yeah,
the American people are getting frustrated, you know. And I
say the American people because they are Democrats that are
getting frustrated with not seeing action done. And I know
that it's it's a tough position for the Trump administration
to be in. But like I said, the action that

(01:05:04):
we need to see is not just simply, hey, we
got a grand jury. We need to see tactical teams
kicking some doors in and yanking people out and showing
that we are really truly cracking down on this stuff.
Because the optics are everything, and until you make a
very strong visual presence that you are addressing this stuff,
people are gonna have a hard time believing it. And

(01:05:25):
I worry what's going to happen with the election next year,
with the with the House, if the Democrats are not
able to get back the House, if violence will continue
even more, because like you said, this is about power.
It's not about ideology. It is power that they are
after and they're losing it rapidly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Man after my own heart, That's why I love being
on your show. But I love what you're reinforcing that
I'm telling the administration it is imagery, and I understand
and that we we've had some differences. I'm talking about
the administration and well, we want to be careful. We
like that word imagery when we careful to make sure
we don't see them as being overly aggressive, as dictatorial

(01:06:10):
or alreag being accused that anyway. And my response is, look,
you're not going to do a thing to change it.
Regardless of what you do. You sit on your behind
and you move forward to take in a door. You're
not changing the opinion of the left. They're never going
to like us, they hate us, and that's just the
way it is. What you are going to do, though,
is determine the opinion of those in the middle, and

(01:06:32):
right now they're sitting here saying, Okay, you said it
was all this bad. You actually provide a docuentation. You
haven't just been speaking. You've shown documents or votes or
et cetera. So we tend to believe there is something there.
But if there's something there, it's this urgent, why do
you get not moving any quicker to get something done
about it? Yeah, and that's hurting this right now in

(01:06:53):
my opinion. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
And you know when we look at Washington, d C.
What Donald Trump did walking in there and taking care
of the crime, that is perfect example of do some action.
So people see it. I mean, you look at the
liberals and the Democrats that live in Washington, d C.
That go, I hate Donald Trump, but damn it, Key
did a good job at cleaning up the city. So
you got to get that action. You've got to get

(01:07:15):
the visuals, you've got to get it going and they
will realize it. And I think that's what we need
to do. Michael, Let's invest USA. Always love talking with you,
Love having you on today. I just wish it was
under some different circumstances. But thank you for everything that
you're doing. And you know, we'll just have to watch
this and hopefully it does not get to what you

(01:07:37):
and I think probably actually is going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
You're exactly right, and you know, thank you, Brian for
what you do for this country. We're in it together.
We're gonna win. Yep, you'll still and unified, which I
know we will on the American Polly behind us. But
you know, war is never pretty. So this is a war.
By the way. We are at war. It is there
are casually solis collateral to themage sometimes, but it has

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to happen because if we don't resist, we'll be run
over and enslaved. And that is never what our phoning qualers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Intended, that is not, but it is what the left
intends to do. Michael, Lets invest USA again, Thank you
so much for coming on. We'll chat again real soon.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
God bless you, God bless to take care.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Absolutely, thank you so much, Michael, Lets Invest USA. We
got to take a break. We're a little behind on that.
We will be right back. This is the Brian Ross Show.
Good morning all, right, Welcome back to the show once again,

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big thanks to Michael Letz from invest USA. Probably one
of our best conversations that we've had, even though we've
had a lot of great conversations. We're we're this is
going to be an interesting time, to say the least.
How we and going forward, And like Michael said, and
I agree, unfortunately, I totally unfortunately agree, this isn't it.

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This is not going to stop with justice. I think
this is going to be something that is going to
empower some I also, I don't really truly believe that
this was any sort of a random thing. I don't
think that this was an angry leftist that came out

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and just simply said I'm going to finally get Charlie Kirk.
I think there was a lot more to it, a
lot more to it, and I really hope that if
that is the case, and I hope it's not the case,
but if it is the case, I really do hope
that we see a serious crackdown on it. We say

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it all the time, follow the money, follow the damn money,
find out and and stop pussy footing around with it too.
It is it is time for the optics. The optics
of being tough, the optics of of not messing around
and making sure that that we let them know we're

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not going to play the whole situation of kicking the
door in and taking the person in charge out, bringing
him out into the streets, seeing everybody, having him arrested,
and take it away without a doubt, some sort of
a coordinated effort. This was again, this was the shooting

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that happened yesterday. And I don't want to be like
Monday morning quarterbacking on a lot of this, but let's
just look at some facts. And I have I've spoken
with with many people who are gun experts. I'm a
gun guy myself. I understand a lot of this stuff,
you know, So I'm not just speaking on a turn.
What we saw somebody, Again, it was not running up

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from the crowd. It was not something that was up close.
This was a distance shot, a shot that is not
always easy to do, a shot that had to come
from a higher the different kind of angle and the
the placement of the shot, that's another thing. I mean,

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they'll they can talk about how, oh you know that
center mass shot, Well, center mask shots are the shots
that that the average Joe Schmoe should go for when
you are in a defensive situation. When you are when
you're in a situation where you have to defend yourself
against an attacker. Yes, you go for center mass because
that's the easiest spot to hit. It's not the most

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effective spot to hit, but it's the easiest spot to hit.
And when you watch the video, and and honestly, if
you haven't seen the video, I don't encourage just to
go see it and watch it over and over again.
I really don't. Michael. He even said about how he
did some analyzing of it and watched it. I did
the same thing. The shot was was an assassin shot.

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It was it was straight up an assassin shot. It
was hit in a spot where you knew that you
were going to take out the main arteries, do severe
damage to the throat, potentially the spinal cord as well.

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And when you see the shot, and again when I
finally saw the video of it, when it first came out,
I knew immediately he was done, even though the news
continued on talking about how always in critical condition. No,
he was done. He was done the moment that bullet

(01:13:02):
hit him. I saw the video of the team when
they picked him up and rushed him to an awaiting suv.
They didn't wait for an ambulance or anything. They threw
him in an suv and off they went. He went
from wearing his white shirt to a maroon shirt. The
amount of blood that he lost, he was most likely

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dead before they got him to that suv. They did
their best, but he was dead before they got to
the suv. The second that that bullet hit him, it
was over. There was not going to be a comeback
from that. And again, this was not your amateur type shooting.

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This was not the drive by shooting. This was not
the I hate you and I come running up to
you and shoot at you. It's not that type of
the thing. This was definitely somebody who had a skill.
And if it does get to a point where the
shooter is found, and again for those who don't know

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much about that particular region, right there in the Utah
from the university, the Utah VLA University, it is about
roughly ten minutes before you're in the woods, and somebody
who's skilled enough and knows what they're doing could disappear

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pretty rapidly. And at this point person is still at large,
So This was not some amateur who was able to
find a spot and take the shot and then run
down to his car and run away. This was somebody
who was able to take the shot, blend in and disappear,

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which means this was more of a coordinated thing. This
is a planned out thing. This is something that not
just somebody who I can't stand Charlie Kirk and I
hate what he's saying, decided to do. This is implementing
or implicating that it was way more than that. And
if it is, because think about this, if you're going

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to put yourselves for just a split second in the
shoes of the left, and the desperation that they have
gotten to, the desperation of their losing their grip on
power and control, all of the ideology that they have
put into place, all the DEI and all these other
things is slipping away from them. You don't simply do

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something where you try and take out the president again,
because that is, while not impossible, it's very difficult to do.
It's a very very difficult thing to do because of
the perimeters of security that are on him and everything else,
and your ability unless you are really straight up top

(01:16:07):
notch professional, the ability of you not being caught somehow,
whether it be doing internet searches on the perimeters of
the White House or internet searches about the perimeter of
Mar al Lago, and doing your research where it's going

(01:16:28):
to ding off some bells because if you think people
aren't monitoring that stuff, oh you're fooling yourself. They're monitoring it.
It's monitored all the time. So the average person is
not going to be able to do that without de
betting an busted. So when you stop and think about this,
what do we do? And again, taking out Donald Trump,
while yes, would be a tragic thing, it wouldn't stop

(01:16:49):
the movement. It wouldn't stop the administration because jd. Vance
is right on board and everything the administration is on
board of things the people are on boarded with. Even
with a Donald trumpy and removed from the picture, it
would not change the direction that we are going. Taking

(01:17:10):
out a Charlie Kirk and I for the lack of
a better word, because this is not the word that
I want to use, but it's the best way of
describing it as a brilliant move because this is a
man who has captured the young vote. You're looking at yesterday.

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Twenty five hundred people roughly twenty five hundred and three
thousand people that showed up yesterday at the Utah Valley
University to see him speak, almost all of them college students.
They didn't show up to throw cabbage at him. They
didn't throw show up to have signs to boom. I'm
sure there were some, but that was young voters that

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were there to see Charlie Kirk. They were excited to
see them, They were excited to have the opportunity to
talk with him, to hear what other people have to say.
He was a powerful, powerful voice for the conservative movement.
And again I have said this over and over again
that gen Z is the generation that you need to
get in order to continue to have the control over

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this country. And the Democrats know that, and there's no
better person to take out than Charlie Kirk. The only
problem that they did not think about when it comes
to that situation is you have now made him more powerful.

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Not to use a movie reference, but I'll use the
movie reference of Obi Wan Kenobi. They take him down
and it only made the resistance stronger, and his voice
will continue on. His voice will continue being stronger turning
in USA is not shutting down today. They're gonna pause,

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They're gonna regroup. They're gonna find a new leader to
stand up to fill the very large shoes that Charlie
Cook took. It may take multiple people to do, but
they will continue on. His voice will not be silenced
today or yesterday. It will continue. And they've screwed up.

(01:19:27):
They've screwed up because they have just like the reference
that Michael said when it came to World War Two,
they've woken up the sleeping tiger, the sleeping tiger that
I was already tossing and turning and trying to get up.
They have fully woken it up now. And there are people,
and I can tell by watching watching their responses, their

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video responses, their their text responses, that they realized, oh
this is not good. They failed to silence Charlie Kirk.
They've only made him louder. And like I said, the

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optics have got to be done to understand, to make
the point driven home that we are going to stop
this stuff from happening. We are going to hold those
responsible for who have done this. And we're not talking
about the shooter. The shooter, hold that person responsible obviously
for their action, but you have to go further. You

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have to find out where it is. Look, we had
the Butler shooter. The Butler shooter are obviously dead, and
this whole story barried gone away. Instead of looking into
where did all that money come from, who was the
influence behind him, what was going on? Instead we changed
it to Okay, well, the Secret Service screwed up. Let's

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look at the Secret Service. Let's analyze the Secret Service.
Let's figure out what the Secret Service did wrong. So
what happened to all of this stuff? The secret bank account,
the offshore bank accounts that they talked about, where all
these weaponry came from. Why are we not talking about
that any longer? They stopped talking about that. Instead, we
have to find that. We're going to figure out how

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to change this and how to not let it happen. Again,
let's look at the Secret Service. Turn all eyes on
the Secret Service. Yes, the Secret Service screwed up on Butler,
absolutely screwed up on Butler, but that's not where that
investigation should have gone. The investigation should have gone to
who was behind this kid? Because again, this is not

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one of those things that just randomly happens. You don't
just randomly able to bring a high powered weapon within
that distance of a former president and a secret service,
you know, protectee who is running for president and be
able to perch up on where he did and take

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a shot. The investigation stopped. It never win any further,
and it should have. They should find out who it
is that was behind that, Where did the money come from,
who was encouraging this kid, how did he decide that
this is what he was going to do. Follow the money,

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and that's what they need to do when it comes
to the situation with Charlie Kirk. Sure, find the shooter,
find out who was behind the shooter, and if this
was in fact the One World Order group of people,
whichever one it may have been, whether it was the
Sorows or whoever it may have been, go after them

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and hold them accountable. But the problem that we have
is the fear because the One World Order is way
more powerful than I think most people understand. And the
idea now of going after after the One World Order,
if it was a Hillary Clinton that was behind it,

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or if it was a George Soros that was behind it,
the idea of going and kicking in their door and
pulling them out into the streets and arresting them for
what they did is scary because the One World Order
has that power, that ability to threaten people, to hold

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people to a fear. And do we have people who
are at the point now where they're going to say,
and this is this is warrior type stuff to say
that I know that if I do this next action,
if I go after this person and hold them accountable,

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my family is at risk. I am at risk, people
close to me are at risk. But I know I
have to do it because it is in the best
interest of the people of this nation and the people
of the world to proceed. Do we have those people
in our government right now that are willing to do it,

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No matter how much Donald Trump will stand there and say,
go get them, there's going to be the people who
are gonna have to stop and say, if I do this,
what are the risks to me? What are the risks
to my family? Somebody is going to have to take
that chance. They're gonna have to be a warrior. Otherwise

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this will never change. The hatred will continue, the assassinations
will continue, and if it continues going down the road
that we are at we will lose this nation, and
if the world loses America, the world loses, and we
will revert back to the days of the small all

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handful of people that control the entire world. The American
experiment is what has stopped them from controlling the world.
And it may not be the same people from two
hundred years ago, but it's the same families, the same ideology,

(01:25:21):
the same power circle that lost their power and they
want it back. We got to take a break. We'll
be right back. Oh all right, welcome back to the show.
Good morning, Thanks so much for checking us out today.

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Obviously not the greatest of days. A lot of things
that we talked about. I've seen this comment many times
that Charlie was a once and a decade person, and
you know what, in a lot of ways, I want
to agree with that that he is. He was a

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once at a decade person, somebody that you don't see
very often. But you know what, this is the thing
about who Charlie Kirk was. He was somebody that we
haven't seen in a very long time. But what we
need to make sure is that Charlie Kirk is not

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a once in a decade or once in a lifetime person.
We have to ensure that that is not the case.
We cannot allow it to be a situation where they
silenced Charlie Kirk. And that's all there is to it.
And we move on and we don't know if we'll

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ever see something like this again. We can't do that.
And I know that there's a lot of other people
that are out there that have done a lot of
this stuff. And I saw a lot of different names
that are being tossed around. Benny Johnson, Tim cast, you've
got what's his name there, just have a total brain
fart Louder with Crowder, A lot of those people who

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will be the next person or the next people for
that matter. And I think, honestly, this is one of
the things that should be taken into consideration rather than
who's the next person? Who's the next people? Who are
the next people who are gonna take up the baton
that that Charlie Kirk had had been carrying and run
with it. And I think that it needs to be

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multiple people. I think that multiple people need to to
really truly get involved. And and look, there's a fear
I know somebody was a d boy. You said that
you're watching Tim cass which generally he does a pretty
good job. I really like him that he's ending his
in person events and it's one of these things where, look,

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I get it, I get that fear, because what's next.
I told you that I had a few people from
a couple of different congressional offices tell me about some
of the threats that they've received. One of them in particular,

(01:28:23):
told me exactly what the threat was that they received.
Like I mean, this is how eft up the Left
is that as soon as this situation happened, they start
coming at us with more threats. And while I'm not
getting into the details of the threats, just know that
they're not done. They're not done. So the question now

(01:28:49):
gets to be who else are they going to go after?
Who else are they going to try and silence? And
if we make it so that there are so many targets,
you can't silence us. And this is why I do
not want to see Charlie Kirk be a once in
a decade, once in a lifetime, once in a generation person.

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I want him to be the person who started it.
I want him to be the catalyst that got other
people to realize that I have to fight for my country.
I have to fight for what is right and step
up even if there is the threats. And Charlie Kirk,
he always knew that the threat was there. He had

(01:29:35):
security teams and he knew there was an active threat
against him every time he went out, but he did
it anyhow because it was the goal of what needed
to be done. And now we need to have more
Charlie Kirk's step up. We need them to do that.
We need to continue to go after the gen Z.
Gen Z should not be afraid to speak their mind

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as well. We're winning them over and it cannot stop
with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We just can't do it.
All right, I'm behind on my commercial breaks this hour.
We got to take one more real quickly before the
top of the hour break. Coming up the next hour, though,
we are gonna be talking with Tyler Gray. He's gonna
be joining us. We're gonna talk a little bit more

(01:30:18):
about this, this this situation that we're in. Hang on,
we got to take a quick break. Be right back,
all right, Welcome back to the show. I hate to
do this because I know right now the network is
pissed off at me, but it's okay because we've got
to do it. We have to take one more break
because we're so behind. When we come back though in

(01:30:41):
the next hour we do have Tyler Gray is gonna
be joining us. We're gonna chat with him, so stand
by for that. We got to take our or one
more break so we can catch up with things, because
I know the network is mad at me because we're
we're behind, so we will be right back. This is
the Brian Rush Show. Good morning, all right, welcome back

(01:31:15):
to out number three of the show. This has been
a show today, to say the least. Thank you for
sticking around with us here on the Florida Man Radio
Network of course, also watching on Rumble, watching on Wimken. Obviously,
the big conversation today and probably will be for the
next few days is the political assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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And that's what it was. This was not a killing,
this was not a murder. This was a political assassination.
And again, the one image for me that is just
absolutely stuck in my head and it's it's it's probably
the most emotional image that I have that I've seen yet,

(01:32:05):
and that is the one on Fox News the Fox
News one that they have shown over and over again,
and and we we have to remember that there's other
victims involved in this shooting. The video that they keep
showing of when he was on Fox and Friends one

(01:32:26):
morning and they showed us some video, it was kind
of like a you know, cell phone video from off
the side. His family was there and his little girl.
When they were done and he she ran out to
Charlie excited to see daddy. That's one of those things

(01:32:48):
that that hurts the most. That is is one of
the the most heartbreaking things about this because while the
physical voice of Charlie Kirk may have been silenced yesterday,
we know that it has not been We know that

(01:33:08):
the mission and appropriately and I know that a lot
of people have said this and I will say it too,
that yesterday is a turning point, not to just take
a spin off of his organization, but it really truly is.
It's a turning point in this country. And I hope
that it really truly is a turning point in this country.

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I hope that the people on the left who did
come out and talked about how horrible this was and
that this is the type of stuff that we shouldn't see.
And we've seen the typical politicians that come out and
say that there's no place for political violence. Yet it's
the party that keeps saying that there's no place for
political violence that continues to commit political violence. If you

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really truly mean it, if you mean it that there's
no place in America for political violence, then do something
about it. Stand up to those extremists on your side
and say stop doing this. Because again, today, while we
no longer have physically Charlie Kirk in this world, the

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mission that he started, the mission that he was on,
the mission that he gave his life for, is going
to continue. But the other thing that we have to
think about is the fact that that little girl will
never see her daddy again, and why because of politics.

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I mean, reach deep down into your soul to think
about is that really worth it? And was Charlie Kirk
really truly that much of a threat, which then brings
up the question of who the hell see a threat to.

(01:35:07):
It's just sad to see where this country has gotten to.
And I've said it earlier when we were talking with
Michael Letz, a conversation that I have had in the
past off the air that I've never really talked about before.
But there is the the history, the historic events that
have happened in the past, and we're talking way in

(01:35:28):
the past and going right back into like Roman days,
where when society gets to a point where you have
what we are experiencing now, the opposition that is out
to simply ruin everything that is, to fundamentally change, to
essentially take over a nation and form it into something

(01:35:50):
else that the people don't want, but that power structure does,
they would take out the opposition. This is not a
new concept. This is not an all of a sudden thing.
This is not a maga thing, This is not a
leftist thing. This is something that has happened in history.
And I've had this conversation and I've said this before,

(01:36:13):
and I'm not going to hide to the fact that
I've said this before because I have and I have
said that political assassinations is what it's going to take
to change the narrative. And when I've said the political assassinations,
I never necessarily meant that, oh, you've got to go
take out the leftists. But a political assassination as a

(01:36:35):
whole will be something that will change the narrative will
change things, and what they have done with Charlie Kirk,
it's going to change some things, and not in the
way that they were hoping it would because the difference
between the left and the right is we don't live
off of fear. We live off of strength, off of logic.

(01:37:01):
Fear and emotion is not what drives us the left.
Different story, but what has happened, and again, I don't
believe for a second that this was a random person,
not a random person at all, that this was a
coordinated effort and the goal of silencing the movement silencing

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a Charlie Kirk is a complete failure. It's not going
to work out the way they thought it was because
we will not be silent. There are going to be
some people that are going to say, oh, I'm going
to back down just a little bit, but there's gonna
be others that are going to pick it up and
say no. The real warriors, the ones who will not

(01:37:51):
back down, the ones that you can threaten all you want,
but they will not back down. They will continue to fight.
And that's what we need to see. Need to see
those that are going to continue to fight. This country
is worth it. We're approaching two hundred and fifty years.
We're in that two hundred and fifty year right now.

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Charlie Kirk was a warrior. Now the question is who
else is going to be a warrior? Who else is
going to be willing to stand up and say the
things that need to be said. Who else is going
to stand up and try and get out the message
to the young voters. I've been saying this for a
long time that the young voters are the ideal thing
that you need to go after. Charlie Kirk was right

(01:38:34):
by going after them. Look at what he has done,
and it has created fear in the left because without
those young voters, and again this is the Marxist ideology,
dominate the youth, that way you can control them and
control the future. And they're losing that. They are losing
the youth. And you have to ask, now, how many

(01:38:56):
of those kids that we're sitting in that little arena
area outside in that little amphitheater when that shot rang
out and they found out that Charlie Kirk has been assassinated,
how many of them do you think changed their mind
and said, oh, that's it. I can't continue to go
down this road. I can guarantee you the majority of
them are stronger now than they were on Tuesday. They

(01:39:23):
messed up. They have totally woken up the sleeping tiger.
All right, coming up, we're gonna chat with Tyler Gray.
He's a warrior. We're gonna chat with him about this
this situation too. And I'm gonna take another quick break
so I don't have to take the one towards the
bottom of the hour, just so we could talk with
Tyler a little bit more. So hang on, We're gonna
chat with Tyler Gray. Coming up next right here on

(01:39:44):
the Brian Rush Show. Good morning, all right, welcome back
to this Brian Rush Show right here in the Florida
Man Radio Network. Thanks so much for checking out with
us today. Welcome back to the show. And we were
talking about warriors, and there's nothing better than bringing a

(01:40:05):
warrior on to talk about, you know, what's going on
with life, and I want to bring Tyler Gray back
on author and you know, former Delta Force operator. Tyler
Good morning, and welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
Good morning, sir, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
Absolutely, thanks so much for coming on. I wish once
again it was it was going to be like some
of our previous conversations and a little bit of a
better topic, but clearly not so much with the political
assassination that happened yesterday of Charlie Kirk. And there's no
other better way or cleaner way or of describing what
happened other than a political assassination. What are some of

(01:40:41):
your thoughts and what went down? What happened?

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Yeah, I mean I saw pretty quickly after it happened.
I saw the video of him getting shot, and I
unfortunately knew as soon as I saw that video that
that was not a survivable wound. Look, it just it's
a sad you know, it's just a sad place that
we're in as as a country, as a society that

(01:41:05):
these you know, people are like, oh, it's the I mean,
this is the third you know, political assassination, you know,
the first one that's happened, but this is the third
attempt to on on President Trump and then this one
on Charlie Kirk. Unfortunately that was successful. But it's it's
a crazy place to be and there's no place for

(01:41:28):
it in modern American society. And I am a little
appalled that that we're where we are.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Yeah, I am too. I mean, this is something that
you know, and I've talked about this on the show
today that I'm not surprised that we are at but
I'm I guess appalled would be a good word of
saying that that we we actually went through it. I mean,
I had this fear for a long time that this
was going to be something that was going to eventually happen,

(01:41:57):
and now that it actually has happened, I mean, I
think it it shakes the very foundations of a lot
of things. And of course, you know the other thing
that we can't forget and I want to make sure
that we remember this even though it was somebody from
the other side in Minnesota, you know, just a couple
of months ago, there was yet another political assassination.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
Yeah, but it was it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Was kind of in a different situation because it wasn't,
you know, opposite side taken out, when it was the
same side taken out, same side. But that's a whole
different kind of thing that went down there. But with
this one here, and you're a warrior, So this is
kind of why I want to get some of your
thoughts and opinions about this, because what Charlie Kirk was
doing was really trying to save this nation in a

(01:42:42):
in a non violent kind of way. He was very
much to a warrior, knowing the risks that that he
and his team and his family, uh, you know had
to see when it came to all of this, where
do we go from here? You know, as far as
continuing the fight being the warriors and the new warriors

(01:43:04):
stepping up, where where do we go?

Speaker 7 (01:43:07):
Well, I mean, I think what we need is, you know,
we we need someone. The thing that set him apart,
I mean there's many things that set him apart, but
one of them, I mean, probably the most uninteresting, I
guess was his age. Yeah, you know, he was very young,
and he was able to speak to that demographic because
he was that demographic. And again it's just shocking, uh, shocking,

(01:43:33):
and yet not shocking because you know, he was he
had the the the ear of the youth. He was
going on college campuses, encountering the narrative putting out being
put out at these universities, and look, I am worried
who could be behind this. Let's just put it that way.

(01:43:56):
They're there. The fact, if it was anyone else, if
it was a part politicians, that would be one thing,
but the fact that it was Charlie Kirk that is
scary because of what he because of what he represented,
because he wasn't a politician, because he was changing the

(01:44:16):
mind of the youth through logic, logic and reason, which
is for whatever reason, being absolutely thrown out in universities today.
And his biggest thaying was going, look, let's take your
emotion out of the argument and let's look at the facts.
And he was very, very, very talented. He had an

(01:44:39):
absolute innate ability to do that, and he had a
warrior's mentality that allowed him to rise the way he did.
And the fact that it was him that was targeted
is very concerning for me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. And like I said this earlier
on the show, and for the lack of a better word,
you know, the the enemy's standpoint, it was a brilliant
move the ideal person to take out because of what
he has done, what he stands for, what he has achieved.
And you know, we were talking Michael Letz earlier about

(01:45:11):
this and he kind of agrees as well, this does
not have the tone of amateur.

Speaker 7 (01:45:19):
I think it does personally. Yeah, yeah, I mean this, well,
maybe not to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
Your level of professional, but definitely not to the the
type of levels that we've seen with other shootings.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
No, no, I think you're I think you're right. I
think you're right. I think to me, this person is
kind of in between. This is not a pure amateur.
This is probably someone I mean, just the shot. First
of all, you know the sniper for almost five years.
The shot is that you know, I could train, literally
train an eight year old to do it in about

(01:45:53):
ten minutes, so the shot is very easy. Also, one
thing I haven't heard anyone say, but I'll say it
I did that job for a long time, that the
neck was not the intended target. This was intended to
be a headshot. I have no doubt that. Unfortunately, you know,
it was not where he intended to shoot. Of course,
it was still fatal, unfortunately, but you wouldn't choose to

(01:46:16):
shoot someone in the neck. So you know, that already
shows that this wasn't someone that you know was was
a super professional. That being said, they did pre plan
an escape route that, let's be honest, worked, so there's
some degree of confidence there. But the one thing I
want to say that kind of the the only good

(01:46:37):
thing I can say is this you can't kill You
can kill Charlie Kirk unfortunately, but you can't kill his ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:46:47):
And and the reality is, you know, I think this
is going to make him and what he was preaching.
You know, the loss is massive, but I think that
he is his word is going to spread greater. In
my opinion, at least, that's my hope. Maybe that's how
I'm trying to justify to myself. But I hope this

(01:47:08):
makes what he was saying, has said, his teachings, all
those things get out there and spread even wider than
when he was alive. That's that's my hope. And maybe
that's the only silver lining I'm trying to find in
all this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think that this may
have physically silenced Charlie, but it is not going to
stop the movement, not going to stop his message, uh,
not going to stop the mission that he has done.
And you know, you you are actually one of the
first people that I've heard say that you know, this
was probably intended to be a headshot. And I think

(01:47:42):
you're right. I mean, you've got the experience, you've got
the knowledge of that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
But yeah, you.

Speaker 7 (01:47:49):
Wouldn't you wouldn't you know. Well, that being said, if
if the next not to get into the specifics, but
there's either two ways to look at it. That head
wasn't the intended target and he you know missed quote
you know his intended target or the neck was the

(01:48:09):
intended target, which I won't get into the details, which
would mean he was a professional. But that's but. But
if he was a professional, I don't think he wouldn't
have been on top of the roof. He would have
been in a different place where it would have been
easy to see him if they would have had a
drone up, which obviously didn't. But if they did have
a drone up, he would have been found out very

(01:48:31):
early on. So again I don't think this was a professional.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
But time will tell, yeah, that it will. What do
you think? What do you think is next? Because a
lot of people are even saying that, you know this,
this may not be the last of this that we
may see more. Do you think that we will continue
to see this type of stuff until it has stopped?

Speaker 7 (01:48:55):
I think, I mean my gut feeling, you know, just
with everything this, this to me is the I've said
this to other people, you know, between the the the
Charlotte attack and this, uh, it's the one. It's the combo,
it's the knockout, and things are going to change, and

(01:49:18):
I think the country enough people are on board that
we're going to see some significant change from this because
it's necessary at this point and enough is enough.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, Uh, Tyler Gray. I
wish this was a much better conversation which we were
talking about your book, uh and other things. But you know,
this is a, to use the word, a turning point
for America and hopefully things will uh, we'll get back
on track and they will find this individual and hold
those that were responsible for this accountable for the actions,

(01:49:52):
and that we don't see what. I think too many
of us are predicting that this is not going to
be the end, so hopefully we're not going to see
anything else go down. Tyler. Always a pleasure having you
on and again we'll have you on again soon and
talk about some some better things other than this particular
topic and hopefully not this this again anytime soon.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
Yeah, absolutely, my pleasure, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Absolutely, Thank you so much, Tyler Gray, thank you for
popping on. Yeah, good point. Something that some people have
not said was that you know that maybe this wasn't
intended to be a headshot. And if it wasn't, like
Tyler said, I mean, this is a man who was

(01:50:34):
uh he was a special operations for for five years.
Is the stuff that he did that if it was
the intended target to hit where it was, then then
this is more professional than than maybe initially thought. But
it's going to be interesting. The obviously the investigation is
going to be ongoing. The thing that we can hope

(01:50:55):
for is that there will be accountability and not as
situation where we find a shooter with a self inflicted
gun wound somewhere, but the investigation continues, that we find
out where it is. There's too much of this and
too many of the professionals that know what they're talking about,
and I am at this point kind of regurgitating what

(01:51:19):
those professionals are saying, that there's too much of this
that doesn't totally scream some sort of just a solo person.
That it is not a situation of a solo actor.
That it is that is so much more than that,

(01:51:43):
and that that we do hold these people accountable and
if it is a professional hit where they were trying
to take him out and it was a leftist organization,
a one World order organization or whatever that it is
held accountable because this is not the direction that the

(01:52:05):
country needs to go in. And unfortunately I am I'm
on board with a lot of those that are saying
that this is probably not going to be the end.
That there may be more UH and and hopefully there won't,
but there is some things timing wise. You have to

(01:52:25):
to question now whether or not the the the Charlotte murder,
of the UH, of the refugee, if that was tied
to this in any way, Who knows at this point.
But you also have yesterday, in addition to the the
Charlie Kirk shooting, you had the school shooting that happened yesterday,

(01:52:50):
which when I say this, many people go, what school shooting?
There was a school shooting yesterday where there were two
students that were shot, and and to be honestly, I
don't even have the full details on it because of
the fact that I have been so busy and so
preoccupied with the Charlie Kirk thing. But is a school
shooting tied to all of this and where does it

(01:53:13):
end that That has got to be the biggest question
of where does it end and how do we bring
this to an end? And hopefully more than anything, that
we do not see an eye for an eye retaliation
type thing going on, because that will just be that'll

(01:53:36):
be no good. Now, hopefully that we can do things
in a way that is peaceful, that is that is
not going to be going down the road of just
being a disaster. Hopefully it'll it'll be a good thing.

(01:53:57):
But here's the problem too, and that is there is
a lot of additional threats that are going on. I've
told you about how there's there's a lot of threats
that are going out to a lot of the congressional people,
uh and others. There are some people that that that

(01:54:17):
do this for a living that now have some fears,
fears that you know, their safety. I mean, what what
is going to be next when when you can take
out the big guy? What is going to stop them?
But this is one of these things we have to
continue to fight and and and hopefully, uh, the person
with the baton that's going to pick it up is

(01:54:38):
right there to pick it up. So we don't stop.
We got to take a break. We'll be right back,
all right, Welcome back to the show. Thanks so much

(01:54:58):
for for being with a today. Obviously, today is a
unusual show, one that we don't ever really plan for.
Today's obviously show was sparked by some tragic events, the
events that happened with Charlie Kirk thirty one years old,

(01:55:19):
and the attempt to silence him. And it is a
failed attempt, and we've said this multiple times throughout the morning,
that is a failed attempt to silence Charlie Kirk. And
they have made Charlie and his message more powerful while

(01:55:39):
the shock of so much of what has gone down
slowly starts to wear off, and it will slowly start
to wear off over the next couple of days. In
anger sets in and finally settles in more rational thought,
because that is the way that we do things. We
will do things rationally. Then we will see people that

(01:56:02):
will step back up and say this is not how
we're gonna do this. We're not going to go down
this road. We are going to do better. The President
also addressed the nation last night after the after it
was confirmed that that Charlie's life had been taken. But
then many of us have have looked at this and

(01:56:22):
we have seen we knew it happened as soon as
it happened. Now there's a lot of debate going on
about the the shooter, a lot of debate about the
facts behind things. And look, this is the thing right now,
it's too soon. It's just way too soon at this

(01:56:43):
point to to give definite facts because there's a lot
of opinions, there's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks, there's
a lot of things that are going out there, and
it's gonna take a little bit of time for some
more details to come out. There's stories like crazy, there's
all kinds of stories everywhere. Somebody he's got to be
the first one to jump into something to be the

(01:57:03):
and and I don't want to do that. We want
to wait until there's some real serious, solid facts and
a lot of things when it comes to the shooter.
But there are things that that we can talk about
just from observation, from professional observations, from from those that
understand what really is going on.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
We we we heard from Tyler Gray, who again former
special operations person. He is a trained sniper. He is
somebody who has been in the field, he's done the stuff,
and he knows and and even he had said that
this may not have been a professional at the level

(01:57:42):
of a warrior sniper such as himself, but definitely not
the run up and shoot situation somewhere in between, and
the questions are was was it intended to be a
head shot? Was it intended to be a center mass shot?
Was it intended to be the next shot? Because look,

(01:58:06):
from the tactical aspect of it, the shot that was
placed was a very effective shot. Was it by accident? Maybe?
But either way a lot of the facts that details
will come about with this. But what we have to

(01:58:28):
also hope for and what we have to push for,
and this is the important thing, is that we don't
bury it. We don't let it go. We don't settle
on a certain level of facts. We don't go, Okay,
they got the shooter, The shooter's been identified, the shooter's
been prosecuted, the shooters being you know, sentenced to life

(01:58:51):
in prison or in Utah to death because they have
the death penalty there. We have to continue to deeper
on it. Was there somebody else behind it? And and more?
That's that's really what we have to do. Uh what
was the caliber? Nobody knows yet. Uh, there there's been

(01:59:14):
again the the professionals that understand this, that do this
for a living, that that are gun pros. And I'm
not talking about uh, I go to the gun range
every week here and I can tell you what that
What I'm talking about real professionals, the professionals that can
that can hear around go off and say that came
from a And one of the things that has been

(01:59:37):
said is, you know, it was a real high caliber
type gun. Some people saying, you know, a thirty out six.
And then there there's some professionals that are coming out
and saying, look, it wasn't that loud of a boom.
So it may have been a smaller caliber. It may

(01:59:59):
have been you know, who knows, a five five six
or something along that lines. It may have been just
a different round. We don't know yet. And that's the thing.
And I don't want to, you know, go down there
and and just say what the internet is saying, because
the Internet is generally wrong. But the one thing that

(02:00:21):
no matter what anybody says, the message of what Charlie
Kirk was doing will not stop. Will we see more
of this? That's that's a problem that I want a
tumbling projectile do more damage yeah, I mean that that

(02:00:45):
does some damage when it projectiles ares to tumble. But
I won't get into to some of the sniper aspects,
the long distance shooting aspects. Everybody is going to have
their opinions on that. There gonna be a lot of
thoughts about that, but it is pretty confirmed at this

(02:01:07):
point that it was definitely a distant shot, which meant
was a little difficult two hundred yards maybe roughly the estimated.
There's certainly more information out there already that we just
don't know about yet, but we have to do. We
have to watch and see well to see what what

(02:01:31):
what what happens with the development. This is obviously going
to be something that uh, the FBI is now looking into.
Cash Matel has sent his people in. They're they're going
to do this, They're going to find out what happened.
And again, this is not a this is not a murder,
This is not a killing. This is a political assassination.

(02:01:55):
And like I said earlier in the show, to use
the word for the lack of a better word, that
this was a brilliant strategic move. And I know that
that's one of these things where when I say that,
some people go, how in the world. Can you say that,

(02:02:15):
because it was you look at the power of Charlie
and the things that he was able to do. And again,
i've met the man. I've never worked with him. We
were supposed to have him on the show one time,
but some things got conflicted so he wasn't able to

(02:02:36):
be on. But I've talked with him before i've met him.
I had probably about a ten minute conversation with him,
and during that time period you really truly get a
feel for the man. It wasn't my first time ever
seeing him. I've obviously known who he was. I've seen
his content, I've seen his speeches, I've seen what he's done.
I've seen it ever since then, and I still take

(02:02:56):
the experience of meeting him and understanding who the man is.
Somebody in the chats earlier said something about I wonder
what his IQ was, and I can tell you it
was probably very high, very high IQ. I didn't always
agree with him on things, which is fine. I don't

(02:03:18):
think you should ever always agree with somebody on some things.
But the man, and the man was smart, I mean,
and I want to say man, but I also have
to say the young man thirty one years old, and
a lot of people have said this, that people that
know him and people that have observed him, and it's

(02:03:39):
very true that one of the big things that he
was was a very powerful figure that could and I
don't want to use the word manipulate, but he he
could really truly captivate you. He could really get you
to understand what it is he's saying, listen to what
he's saying, and he was able to do some amazing things.

(02:04:03):
When it came to the youth, the Left would often
take and this is again the Marxist ideology. We talked
about this many many times, the Marxist ideology. What you
do is to divide the society, divide the family. You
capture the youth. You don't go after the parents because

(02:04:25):
they're smart, they're smarter, they're they're said in their ways.
You don't you go after the children. You go after
the children and you use them emotionally. And that's what
the left always does. It was always emotions with the left.
Charlie Kirk went after them with logic. He kept the
emotions aside and stuck to the logic of a conversation,

(02:04:46):
the logic of the point that you're trying to make
the logic of the point that he was trying to make,
and with that he had the ability to get people
to put that emotional thing aside, especially the youth who
often run off of emotion and start to understand what
it was he was saying. And this is the reason
for why when you see the Turning Point USA events,

(02:05:10):
thousands of college kids, thousands of them show up to
this event. The event yesterday had a couple thousand people
at it. And sure easy to go off and say, well, yeah,
it's a conservative area. Of course, it was a college
of forty thousand students. Thousands of students showed up to

(02:05:31):
see him, But he also went to other colleges that
were not so conservative, and hundreds, if not thousands, still
show up to see Charlie. He was a very powerful
figure and again using logic, he was the ideal person

(02:05:51):
to remove from the equation. But what they did not
think about is the fact that he has laid the groundwork.
He's laid the groundwork for the movement, for the message
for people to look at things in a logical way.

(02:06:12):
He's opened the doors for many people. Remember, he's been
doing this since he was eighteen he was young, thirty
one years old. It's definitely not something that's gonna silence.
No matter what anybody might feel. I think Charlie Kirk

(02:06:33):
is not silenced. His message will continue on and we
will continue to fight because we have to fight for
this country or we're gonna lose it. We're right back,

(02:06:54):
all right, welcome back to the show. Thanks for being
around with us today. By the way, for those watching
on rum in Wimken today, there's gonna be a bonus
segment that is going to be coming up right at
the top of the hour, so cigarette for that will
be another interview that we have. We're gonna chat with
him coming up in just a couple of minutes. Nihilis

(02:07:15):
group velous and I'm sure I probably mispronounced name, but
we'll figure it out. We'll get it right. So we're
gonna talk with him. He's an investigative journalist or investigator.
We're gonna chat with him. Come in up right at
the top of the hour. Of course, today, one of
the things we can't forget about is that today is
nine to eleven. It is in twenty four years since

(02:07:39):
the day that probably changed America in a way that
we did not expect. So there's so many emotions that
are going on right now, between the Charlie Kirk situation,
the school shooting yesterday, the situation with the Ukrainian immigrant
that happened you know, last month, which has obviously been

(02:08:01):
carried over this month. A lot of emotions that are
going on, and it's a it's definitely a tough time
for this country. And I know that there's gonna be
all kinds of conspiracy theories that are going to be
thrown around right now, especially with with timing, you know,
the situation. I'm to be honest with you, I personally
don't think that there's any connection between the North Carolina

(02:08:23):
killing of the the the Ukrainian immigrant and what went
down yesterday. Now. Yesterday again there was a school shooting, UH,
and then there was the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And
the Charlie Kirk assassination obviously is UH is a big deal.
There's a lot of implications that go on with that.

(02:08:45):
And of course seeing the left, UH, it's interesting to
watch them. There's some of the propagandas that have been
been very interesting on their responses people that I was
not expecting. UH, to to take a different turn. Uh
And and honestly, last night I got to a point

(02:09:08):
I could not take social media anymore. I actually had
to put down my phone and I couldn't do it anymore.
As a matter of fact, I spent a lot of
the night in silence and just reading some other things
and talking with some people and and not engaging in
social media because of the hateful rhetoric that was out there.

(02:09:30):
And there's there's one that I played the audio of
it earlier and I'm gonna play it again just because
it's another example of the hateful rhetoric. And this is
a a woman here in Florida, in Miami. She is
an anesthesiologist here in Florida. Forgot what I did with
her name and everything. It's around here someplace, but she

(02:09:54):
what did I do with all that? I don't even know.
I got notes everywhere. This morning she had this to say.
And this is just going just how despicable some of
them on the left really can be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:08):
I'm just really glad Charlie Kirk just got himself in shot.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
Because he's right.

Speaker 7 (02:10:12):
Empathy.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Empathy is is dangerous to society, So no one should
give a that he's dead, he said it. I'm just
saying his words. All I'm doing is.

Speaker 3 (02:10:25):
Using his words.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
You can't be mad at me for using his words.
I think empathy is a new wave thing and is
very problematic.

Speaker 3 (02:10:34):
You right, you right, No empathy for you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Zero.

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
Wow. And the sad thing is is that I saw
so many people on social media taking kind of that
same tone. And this is why I worry Dean had cried.
Did he really like on his ex post? Is that

(02:11:00):
where he cried? Was he like generally upset? Because that
kid's a tea waffle to say the least. I watched
Harry Sisson's response, and you know how much I love
Harry Sisson used that to love as a sarcasm. I

(02:11:21):
watched his reaction, and I think there are some people
on the left who maybe got a bit of a
wake up call yesterday, maybe got a wake up call
yesterday realizing that ooh, this this got serious now. And

(02:11:41):
I watched Harry's I watched Harry's video response that he did,
and it was unlike any others. You can see some
sincerity in his response. And there's been plenty of calls
for making sure that we stopped the violence, that we

(02:12:02):
don't continue to go down this road, and then we,
you know, from now on, not have the political violence
because there's no place for it in our country and
we need to change directions. And on and on and
on and on. The politicians come out and say it.
Politicians come out and say this, and they say that
it's the same canned stories that we see over and

(02:12:23):
over again, and yet nothing ever gets done. The calls
for gun control they rolled out right away. And again,
this is not about gun control. This is about control,
but not gun control. But I wonder if the school

(02:12:44):
shooter was just another mentally deranged, brainwashed leftists or leftist
trans To be honest with you, I don't know. And
I got to look up on the stuff on the shooting,
the school shooting that happened yesterday at the same time
that the Charlie Kirk situation was going on. I just
completely went not Now I got other things to look at.

(02:13:07):
Was that Dean said that he disagreed with Charlie, but
he went on to say that he did not deserve
to die. And this was horrible. You know, again, I
think there's a lot of the leftists that really do
honestly feel that way, and what's going to be interesting
is to see how some of the propagandists like Dean,

(02:13:29):
like Harry, like Chris, and a few of the others,
how they change their tone, if at all, Because look,
political disagreement is fine, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
But the thing that Charlie had always done, and this
is one of the things that I miss about politics,

(02:13:53):
and that is the ability to have the conversation, you know,
you have a loud with crowd or seeming crowdery. He
always did his change my Mind campus tour, and I
hope that not only will he continue to do that,
but others will continue to do that, and that turning point,
USA continues to do their events and bring in the

(02:14:15):
people that they've had in the past, and to find
multiple people, not just one, but multiple people to fill
the shoes of Charlie Kirk as far as the message
goes out. I would really like to see that happen.
But I think that there are some people that will
change their tone and understand what it was that Charlie did.

(02:14:40):
And I think that this is the other thing that
we need to educate those on the left of just
what it was that Charlie did. Charlie was not like
the dumbass Matthew Dowd from NMSNBC coming out and saying
that he's full of hateful speech. He wasn't approached every

(02:15:00):
single topic that he did with a logic. It was
all about logic, regardless of what the topic was, whether
if it was gun control, whether it was abortion, whether
it was you know, immigration, any of this stuff. He
always brought to the discussion logic and not emotion. And

(02:15:26):
sometimes it is the emotion that that rocks the left
the most. And honestly, I've seen some people that have
taken step backs and said, oh my god, this is real.
And the fact that the assassination of Charlie was on
tape for everyone to see and a lot of these

(02:15:49):
people on the left saw it, I think that is
that is a really good thing. It really truly is.
All right, coming up in just a minute, we're going
to do an extended version of the show. There's another
probably about another ten minute segment that we're going to do,

(02:16:09):
so stand by. They're going to do that. Coming up
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This is the Brian Rush Show. Good morning, all right,
Welcome back to the Brian Rush Show. Thanks for checking
us out today. Do you appreciate It's obviously been a

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tough day today to do the show with all the
topics that we've had. And we've got one final guest
that we want to get on the show today. We
want to welcome Detective Neils Gravellis. Did I get to
that right, Neils? Because I know I'm good at screwing
up names.

Speaker 9 (02:16:46):
Well you got it close enough that I'm not going
to fly out to Panama City and book you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:52):
How's that that sounds good? Even though me and handcuffs
sometimes we do enjoy each other, but well that's for
a whole other topic.

Speaker 9 (02:17:00):
It's not that kind of show, mister rus.

Speaker 5 (02:17:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:17:04):
Sometimes I kind of wonder, but either way, welcome to
the show. Do appreciate you having on. You know, obviously
we wish it was a different circumstances. You're a detective,
You've got a lot of understanding about crime and the
investigations and everything, and I want to get some of
your thoughts and opinions about obviously what went down yesterday.

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You know a lot of people are are indicating that
this may have been some sort of a professional hit,
So I kind of want to get your thoughts and opinions.
What what's on your mind when it comes to this.

Speaker 9 (02:17:35):
Well, the assailant used a rifle. Obviously, it was about
a two hundred meters shot taken from the roofline. He
would not have had line of sight. Otherwise he'd been
much high, he wouldn't have a line of sight on
Charlie Kirk, I've got somebody showing something that the ATF

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is tracing a thirty odd to six deer rifle that
was allegedly abandoned and may have had some ANTIFA markings
on remaining cartridges. In the magazine, it was found wrapped
in a towel. I'm not sure that this is true,
but it rings true with me. The other thing that

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the Bureau is going to be doing, as well as
local police is studying every bit of camera footage that
they can for anything that's out of place, anybody trying
to get away, things like that. I was hoping I
would wake up to the news that the assassin was

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in the handcuffs, but not yet.

Speaker 3 (02:18:46):
Yeah, me too. Where do you think the investigation is
going to go next? And what do you think that
they're investigating at this time? Because Obviously there's you know,
we're in less than twenty four hours of this, and
there's always slation and always rumor and this and that
that's out there. What are the investigators looking into right.

Speaker 9 (02:19:05):
Now, Well, what they're looking into is anything that is
going to identify suspects in the shooting. Typically, assassins operate,
you know, as lone wolves, but not always like the
Lincoln assassin assassination was a conspiracy at cabble and professional hit.

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Often the assassin will have an accomplice or two or
three getting them in, getting them out, that sort of thing.
This doesn't look like a professional hit as much as
a highly motivated amateur like Luigi and Mangioni. Now I'm
still not convinced that Luigi Mangioni acted alone. There were

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a lot of people who seemed to know an awful
lot about his neck injury within eighteen hours of him
being arrested, that sort of thing, And we're already promoting
the absurdity that he was justified in assassinating the head
of United Healthcare.

Speaker 3 (02:20:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I can understand the calls for
the justification that because the things that happened for a
lot of people in healthcare. But you know, there is
the conversation right now, detective about how is this a
professional hit, is it a semi professional? Is it an amateur?

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You know, we've seen probably a significant difference between this
one and Butler. What are some of the similarities that
you see or the differences between the two.

Speaker 9 (02:20:44):
Well, okay, highly motivated amateur roofline shops evaded whatever security
procedures were in place, And I think the Charlie Krk
security team was up close in personally looking for an
immediate threat in his face that sort of thing. The
greater threat that Charlie Kirk always faced was somebody wanting

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to physically attack him for his points of view and
make a show of it, and that sort of thing,
rather than necessarily a long range rifle shop. But clearly
there are a lot of people who considered Charlie Kirk
to be controversial and hated his opinions and wanted to
silence and and that sort of thing. He wasn't controversial

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at all by the standards of just thirty years ago.
There are a lot of people who consider themselves highly
justified in their dislike of him and their willingness to
do violence to silence, and well he's silenced. Now, it's

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horrified what's occurred here?

Speaker 3 (02:21:53):
Yeah, Yeah, that it is. You know, one of the
questions that we've asked all of our guests and we've
kind of today just get some of your thoughts on
this too. Do you think this is it? Do you
think that we'll see more?

Speaker 5 (02:22:08):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (02:22:09):
I think we're going to see more of these in
the US Armies manual and low intensity conflict, which is
a fancy academic term for guerrilla warfare, bombings, assassinations, and kidnapping.
That's how you destabilize the populace. And we've seen an

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escalation in this over the last several years, and it's
going to continue. It's my opinion that we've been in
a slow burned civil war, a low intensity conflict since
about two thousand.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
That's some scary times that we are in right now.
To say the least time frame, detective, how long do
you think it'll take before they probably have some more
definite information that they could be given given to the public.

Speaker 9 (02:22:57):
I think it's going to be relatively quickly. Modern technology,
particularly the nature of surveillance cameras now and DNA tracing,
weapons tracking and that sort of thing. It's going to
occur relatively quickly.

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
Well, that is probably good news, especially if they can
also capture the shooter. One of the other things that
we've kind of talked about it and I think a
lot of people, a lot of Americans in general, are
really kind of craving for and just want to get
your thoughts of whether or not we'll see this type
of a thing. And that is like real action towards

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those that are doing this stuff. I mean, and I'm
not just talking about we find the shooter, we arrest
the shooter, we prosecute the shooter, but the going after
those that may be behind it. Do you think we'll
see something like that.

Speaker 9 (02:23:45):
I think we are going to see some of that.
Some of it isn't going to involve actual prosecution so
much as exposure, and Americans have to stop self censoring
and worrying about the opinions of their political opponents. Offense
is just a temporary emotional injury, and we seem to

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coddle an awful lot of people who have an escalating
need to feel offended. Yeah, well, the cure for that
is to offend them relentlessly. In my opinion, mister Russ Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:24:21):
Well, you know what, I'm pretty good at throwing those back.
But yeah, you're right. We are at a point where
emotions seem to overthrow you know, logical reason and thinking,
which is what Charlie Kirk did. And you know, unfortunately
he's been silenced, but I think the movement that he
has done, the voice that he has created, will probably
never be silenced. And I wish we had a lot

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more time to talk about it. Detective Noles. I really
appreciate you coming on, and we're gonna have you coming
on again because we have a lot of things that
we could talk about when it comes to a lot
of the crime and everything else that's going on in
this country. So we're going to reach out to you
again and have you back on the show real soon.

Speaker 9 (02:25:00):
It's mine and shit pleasure. You have a good, safe day,
and I want to say hello to everybody in Panama City.

Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
Well do thank you so much. We appreciate detective. Have
a fantastic day. Yeah, this is a this is an
interesting time that we're living in to say the least.
But a big thanks to the detective for coming on
the show. Also big thanks to our friend Michael Letz
for coming onto the show today, and for Tyler Gray
for coming on and giving some thoughts and opinions about this. Uh,

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it's not over. It's it's definitely going to be continued
and we'll talk more about this as we go. Have
a fantastic day today, Thank you for some checking out
the show. We'll talk to you tomorrow for the big
Friday show. Till then, have a great day. Everybody, stay
safe and remember don't let Charlie's message go silent.