Children of God Cult

The Children of God cult lured in thousands with promises of love and salvation, but behind the curtain was a world of exploitation, manipulation, and horrific abuse. From its charismatic founder David Berg to the disturbing practice of “Flirty Fishing,” we unravel one of the most infamous sex cults in modern history—and the lasting scars it left behind.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
This episode is in honor of Joe Burrow's big toe
on his left foot, because my entire happiness hinges on
the foot of a twenty nine year old man his toes.
I'm not even a foot guy of all things. Man.

(00:38):
One time I was hotdog with the old lady and
she tried to put her feet in my mouth. I said,
whole the fucking well, the fuck on, I don't like that.
She's like, I thought, guys like that stuff. I don't
like that. Get your feet out of my mouth. Humm,
I'm just kidding them. Made that up. She would never
ever in a million years, if she thinks I'm looking

(01:00):
at her feet, she'll get in the car and leave.
She'll go down to Taco bell or something. She just go.
He's like, I gotta get out of here. Or if
she if she thinks she thinks I'm gonna smell her
poop by accident, drive down to McDonald's. Should go to
the hotel. Welcome to the Brohio podcast. Everybody. It's a cult.

(01:21):
We hear on our show. We're talking about the Children
of God cult. Really great people.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I was like, who's culty did a lot of Is
there one specific guy we're celebrating this week.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Cult. Yeah, it's it's a very off the wall cult.
They did a lot of really bad things, the children's
anises and stuff. H sweet man to mention a few
of their atrocities. Glad to be here. I don't want
to spoil it. Yeah, but uh, I'm I'm the delicious Nicolicious.
I'm robbed a guys, and we have a live show

(01:56):
less than a month away. Crazy. We're gonna be in Dallas,
Texas at the satellite location for Celestial Beer Works. How
did I coke? And my apologies? And you can buy
tickets at brohyopodcast dot com slash tickets. There's a few left.
Let's make a sellout. That would make me happy too.

(02:17):
That make Robert happy very much. What about doing a
pre order on shirts? Okay, throw that out for the
people that want to buy shirts, so I'm ensure as
they bring their size. Yeah, see if anybody wants to
do that, because usually it's feel bad. It's a far trip.
If we gotta feel bad. Yeah, when we get there
and they're like, oh, three twelve X, I'm like, I

(02:39):
understand you're a competitive eater, but I do not have
any of those sizes on the truck at the moment.
And one thing I know about Texas is they got
a lot of twelve exers. We sew a couple of
these four extras together. I think we can get what
you're trying to do. No, I just want to make
sure everyone's taken care of. That's it, and I have
to I don't want to over Like I'm driving across

(03:01):
the country with limited space, I don't want to overpack.
I don't want to pack a bunch of medium shirts
a bunch of large And you got a three foot
dick you gotta bring with you, And I got a
like a forty five pound, three and a half foot
tall dick. I've got to smuggle across the country. You
think them coyotes in Mexico are rough, I'm gonna have
it bad.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Can you imagine if we had like state border crossing
checks and then like every time you pass you had
to explain why you had a three and a half
foot tall dick.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
He drugs marijua in the car. No, but I've got
a dick right here. Look at this one. There's this
little creepy fucker on TikTok. God, what's his name? He's
a crack baby or he's like got fetal alcohol syndrome
or something. I don't know, but he's as tall as
that that bottle doctor Pepper you got right there. Yeah,

(03:47):
and he's got the most disgusting colored mullet and he
uh he travels back and forth between Minnesota and Canada. Okay,
and you you go to border in Mexican or uh, yeah,
you got a border in Canada and they're like, what's
your business in Canada. He's like, I'm going to popeyees
chicking for my mom. And he's just so weird. He's

(04:07):
so weird, and he's just like it's not even him
faking it, it's just how he is. And then all
the comments on TikToker, you're a creepy he's a You're
a creepy little fucker, aren't.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You, dude?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
He is like skin crawling weird. He's just I'll have
to I can't remember his name, but he's it's the
one of the cringiest channels I've ever I've ever been.
And that says a lot. And they're like, what about
this incident from three years ago were you had a
taser flashlight And he's like my car. I forgot about it.
He kind of talks like Kip from the brother from

(04:39):
Yeah it's a mess man. I can't remember his name though,
maybe somebody in the YouTube chat. No, no, all right,
we have a uh, let's have a quick shout out
to a few of our new Patreon subscribers, starting off
with mister cock himself, the cock Rocky. What a cool name, man,

(05:03):
Is it really cool? That's a cool name, Rocky. Thank
you for joining us on the Patreon feed. We'll uh,
we'll be back with more content in the middle of
the week. We'll probably do a zoom chat. We'll do
a middle of the week zoom chat just to catch
up with everybody. See how everybody's doing. You go face
to face with us. We'll do all kind we'll make
out for money. It's almost like a cam Soda and
ship where people were like, now, choke Nick and then

(05:27):
Rob Rob Dog chokes me and stuff or whatever you
guys want us to do for a galaxy. Yeah, and
next we got Austin with the y. But it's spelled
like autism. Yeah, but which Austin knows all too well.
I can't tell us. I can't tell what is that
appears to be a deceptively attractive females. What that appears

(05:48):
to be? I know that's how I know that it's bullshit.
This is all in you know, it's Austin with a y.
It's definitely a female. Definitely has to wipe after she peas.
I do that sometimes.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, that's good to you know, just just to dab
off a little bit. Yeah, just like a It's almost
like a pep talk, like a pad in the back.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Especially if you're like dick holes really loose that day,
I just leaks. It's like an elephant's trunk. It just
all constantly got the dripping and stuff. I might always
keep a tampon on me. I had to go to
to use a pora John yesterday at the Bengals tailgate. Okay,
I don't like using pora John's, No, I'm not a
fan of it. But I went in there to pee,

(06:31):
which that doesn't scare me. I'll go in there and pee,
it's not a big deal whatever. But then you know,
curiosity always gets the best of me, and I have
to look in there. Yeah, yeah, just to see how
you know, mode down this toilet is see if it's
been I mean tailgate toilet is probably that's rough. But
I went in there at you know, nine thirty. I
look luscious blue mermaid water, just sparkling. Yeah, ready for

(06:57):
a full day a tailgate and ass yeah nothing. I said, Wow,
they got these things cleaned out. And then I went
back to the tailgate and I was cooking. I went
back an hour later and there was just this motherfucker
was nearly filled to the brim with shit. And I
thought to myself, that is a real crossroad in your life.
For you walk into a porridge and you say, all right,

(07:20):
I'm going to poop in here. I'm gonna poop in here.
You really have to go if you got a shit there.
There wasn't that much, but there was like two generous
piles of shit. It looked like people are perhaps eating
dog through the night before. Yeah. But I farted in
there and it was really hot. You know, it was
like ninety degrees yesterday in Ohio for whatever stupid reason,

(07:40):
and it smelled horrific. I was in there and I
was say, man, good job, brother. I was patting myself
on the back, like you did a good job farting
right there. Yeah, because it stinks. And I left the
porridge on there's another guy. You know, they're lined up,
So I just held the door for him. He's like, thanks,
so I appreciate it. And he walked in there, and
before I get like two steps away, I heard him go,

(08:02):
oh man, way to go. Good job.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
He said, Man, anytime you fart in public, you kind
of want a visceral reaction from somebody, right, it's like
a waste.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
If not, it's a foreign brew to them. You know,
he's not from around here. People will live here in
dating and ship our farts kind of smell the same.
But you start to get out of the city limits
where people eat different foods and stuff, and all the
farts don't smell the same. So I'd imagine he got
a little panicky walking in there and getting hitting the
face with a face full of must that wasn't his.
That yeah, just didn't smell normal for him. But he said, Man,

(08:44):
I knew I got him. Oh Jesus, well, we got
the news this week we're going to Louisiana, home of
one of my favorite UFC fighters, Dust and the Diamond Poier.
See this guy kind of looks like dustin hard time,
dustin Eliesville. Man agreed, to be physically and chemically castrated

(09:09):
as part of a plea deal. Thomas Allen McCartney, thirty
seven years old, pleaded guilty Tuesday to attempted first agree
rape of a child under the age of thirteen. As
part of the plea deal, he also agreed to serve
forty years in state prison. According to the Vernon Parish
District Attorney's office, McCartney was arrested in twenty twenty three.
Authority said that he had been caught sexually abusing a seven.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Year old girl.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
He was already a Tier three sex offender in Louisiana,
having been convicted of attempted aggravated rape in twenty eleven.
He was arrested on one kind of felony carnal knowledge
of a juvenile in two thousand and six, and two
counts of aggravated rape of a twelve year old in
twenty ten. What a fucking disgusting piece of shit. This
is a horrific crime that never should have happened. Thomas

(09:54):
McCartney is a predator that needs to be locked away
from the others in our community. That's what the a
police officer said. But part of his plea deal, this
fucking disgusting creature has agreed to a physical and chemical castration.
Good and kill him afterwards.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Just kill him now, Man, No, I think you got
it chemically and physically castrated, and then you think you're
in the clear, and then you just get fucking shot
in the head and.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You just get fucked in the butt the entire time
you're in prison. He'll never get a boner again. That'll happen,
He'll get I don't know what a physical castration means
in terms of like today's standards. If that's just uh
bopping the balls off, man, are you sure? I think so?
That's getting neutered, getting nuded. If you've ever been neutered,

(10:50):
send us an email Brohyo Podcast at gmail dot com. Yeah,
we'd love to hear your story, how it felt, how
your wife likes it. I don't know that my wife
would like me anymore if I didn't have any testicles.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You're getting kicked in the balls hurts really fucking bad.
Imagine getting them fucking sliced out of your skin.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I always found it profound, Like when we were younger,
and you know, you'd be wrestling girls on the playground
and one of them would get hoofed in the pussy
like that hurts. And I just wonder what the pain
level is like for somebody to get kicked in the pussy, right,
because I know it hurts bad when I get hitting
the ball. It fucking sucks. It makes you feel sick.

(11:30):
But think about hitting your you know, like your elbow,
the very corner of your elbow, just all bone right there, right,
It's the same for a lady mirrored, a couple of
flaps there and then just bone. Dude, that shit probably hurts.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean there's a they got a prominent bone right there,
So I mean, yeah, ratting old puss bones.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Especially my wife. It's like ten o'clock at night. She
got a prominent bone in there.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
He said something aboutn elbow. I saw this video of
this fucking dude. This dude was sharpening his elbows for
m m A, oh cool. He was fucking he like
a nice He had like a metal handrail going down
the stairs and he was doing that and like fucking
grinding his elbow.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, and just like fucking hitting things with his elbow.
I don't know that that works. That's just someone that's
delusional and out of their goddamn mind.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I was like, like, those guys are just fucking shin
kick things to keep their streaking out their shins for kicks.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Dude, getting a really like solid hit on your shin
with anything hurts so fucking bad. You were walking to
a trailer hitch with your shoes. Oh my fucking god. Yes,
And I want to die every single time it happened.
That's why I don't like people that back up and
you know, really hang their rear ends out over the
sidewalk and stuff. Yeah, so I'll I'll key their cars

(12:46):
and ship out here. You see the egg job I did?
The egg job I did. Yeah, I was really drunk yesterday.
There was a Purple Heart recipient that parked next to
is the tailgate I think I did, Yeah yeah, And
he was driving like one of than Ford Raptors or
some ship like that, and I just took an egg
and I put it on his running board. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I remember that. My brother was like, fucking Tara, you're

(13:13):
Tartam sticking up for your dumb ass and you do
dumb ship like this. Why did you have an egg?
While I was making eggs for breakfast onto the griddle
there at the tailgate it I just took. I just
took an egg and put it on his running board
and he's this, and then as he's lecturing me, I
see him turn the left and he's like, I hear

(13:34):
some guy go, there's an egg on my truck. And
my brother's like, are you serious? Man just immediately went
from cussing me out to fucking daddy taking the fucking fall.
He said, that's so crazy. My brother is like, is
it a hard boiled egg? Knowing fool well that it
was not a hard boiled egg?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Eating scrambled eggs, put breakfast and which just put an egg,
he would have done that.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And then the dude picked it up and he shook
it and he's like, oh, I think it's just a
wrong egg. And my brother said, well, what are you
gonna do with it? And he's like, well, they wouldn't day,
I'm gonna hold on to it. And they won. Joe
Burrow broke his fucking toe and half. But I don't
know what happened to the egg Purple Heart recipient. Thank

(14:25):
you for your cervix. Anyways, all right, here's a quick
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(14:46):
Rodriguez the middle of nite. Yeah, says, heroes get remembered,
the legends never Dodgers, never die. This sandwich came to
me in the middle of the night. So I took
British buns.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, Babe Ruth.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
He's like, you gotta serve is the tailgate? Okay, Babe.
I took briage buns and I put them in French
toast batter, half of them, half the bun like submerge
half the bun in there, and I threw them on
the griddle. And then I got like these little like
this little egg template where you cracked the egg and
put it in there and it cooks it like McDonald's eggs,
like a perfect circle, like you know, three quarters of

(15:21):
inch tall. And I got maple sausage and I did
like a smash burger maple sausage. And then I put
all that on the French toast bun with the egg
and I melt. I got the cheese American cheese on top,
and I drizzled it with maple syrup and I served
I call the Whude Tailgater Burger and everyone was eating
in there, going oh god, yeah yeah. But it was

(15:46):
a hit. That sounds really good. It came to me
on the night and it just said make me. That's
what I did with it. That's a that's a.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Nick Donald's nick Donald's nick griddle. That's a nick GRIDDLEL.
We don't eat no nick griddles around here. Make sure
you emphasize that nick griddle.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
My wife, My wife gets upset sometimes and she'll say
she'll say nick I, like when she's talking to me,
She's like nick I and nick I'm tired. I'm like,
what did you say? She's like, I, nick I'm tired.
I was like, oh, she like nick I'm tired. Like

(16:29):
she just call me the word? Did she call a?
I've never heard her utter though that word ever in
twenty years of being together. But sometimes she catch me
off guard. I'm like, okay, hate crime, fuck me. But
it's just you say nick I together you're rolling together,
it sounds like you're ready to commit some crimes and shit,

(16:50):
you know what I mean? Yeah, I could hear it
back in nineteen sixty eight. And Huntington Beach, California. That's
where cal That's where Haul Cogan's from, is it when
he's walking down in the ring, That's what they said.
Problem Huntington Beach, California. I guess where Teeto or Teas
is from. Fitness Beach, California. Yeah, he was from a
lot of different places. He wasn't from parts unknown like

(17:12):
Mick Folen undertaker, Undertakers from Death Valley. Problem his poor
story he is. Yeah. Uh, the time Huntington Beach, it
was crawling with hippies, high school dropouts, just kids kind
of pissed off the world. At the time, Vietnam was
raging in, the Summer of Love was fizzling out. Man,

(17:36):
the Woodstock hippies.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know how much fucking had been happened for it
to be called the Summer of Love. Dude, that's so
many fucking stinky.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Ball bags and rotten pusses stink in the middle of
summer here ecstasy ellis they did what LSD? Yeah, LCD,
that's a lot of stinky bush led. That's what kind
of TV I have as an LED. Yeah, and just
make sure, you don't eat it, you'll start You'll see. Yeah,
enter our friend David Berg. Oh yeah, he's actually not

(18:10):
our friend. He was a forty nine year old ex
preacher with a knack for talking. He'd been kicked out
of his church for sketchy stuff. There was rumors of
him messing around with women in the congregation. That didn't
stop him. He set up shop at a little cafe
called the Light Club, calling his group that he had
congregated there teens for Christ. And nothing seemed. Nothing screams,

(18:32):
I'm a kid toucher. Quite like a forty nine year
old man hosting a group of teenagers on a cafe
on a sidewalk in Huntington Beach, California. Long haired kids, guitars,
and Berg just preached about Jesus love and sticking it
to the man, sticking it to the system, all of them,

(18:53):
the government, schools, you name it, stick it to the
people in power. Take it where you can, stick it
up your ass. And his pitch was simple, the world,
Well it's going to hell, so join us, ditch your
old life and live like Jesus' crew did. There's kids

(19:13):
like Susan, who was seventeen years old at the time
had run from a rough home, and that's what he
kind of preyed upon, were kids that came from houses
that what the kids thought were rough. You know, so
pretty much at the time, if you were asked to
follow the rules, you were considered to be in a
shitty house. You know, it just count. Yeah, that's what

(19:35):
these kids were U Some of them did come from
bad situations, which Susan said, it felt like family. By
nineteen sixty nine, they were indeed the Children of God cult,
with hundreds crashing together. When I say crashing, these people
were living with sharing bunk beds, sharing food, sharing clothes,

(19:58):
sharing fluids. Sharon Osborne's husband died, Hey singing songs Me's
de Crown. Wasn't that a poetic death?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Though?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah? Man, you like Ozzy Osbourne? That do like Ozzie legend. Man,
he got that, that last little hoo rah he did.
And I watched that concert. I'm glad. I'm glad he
got that, got that one last time in I think
we talked about this, but when I watched that concert,
I cried. I cried the entire time he was on stage.
He's like, let me fucking stand and they're like, you can't, Ozzie,

(20:37):
you can't walk. Fucking sad man. It's but it's inevitbooks
and happen to all of us.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It is.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
But God love him for all the music he gave
us and all the he gave us. The Osbourne's what
a great time for TV. That was. It was. I
did see him at that Chipotle by his house. That was.
I was in California doing some stuff. Well, I was
one of baseball games and there was this Chipotle that
he was on TV always going to, and we went

(21:06):
there and uh, sure a ship man. He come through
with this posse and got a got some chipotle and
and took off. I couldn't get close enough to him.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I also saw, uh, we're just walking down the sidewalk
and a little salad place, a little vegetarian salad place,
and they got, you know, on the sidewalk, they had
four or five tables really like really close quarters where
you gotta kind of navigate through there and flee from
red hot chili. Pepper was just chilling on the sidewalking
and salad, just looking homeless as all.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Ship I was like flea and I waved down and
he's like the man he.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Strung out of his fucking mind, tell him to do that. Uh,
the sock trick, the wild Thornberry's voice that he did.
Oh yeah, was that the kid's name?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I don't know. I've never watched that one. I mean
i've seen I've seen it, but I don't know. Anny
Dohnny It, Donnie Osmond.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's a little bit different, man, all the same, right,
Donnie Trump. I don't remember the fuck the little little
bastard's name was. They was done, all right, We're good, okay, cool?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Now they would uh this cult, they'd hit the streets
passing out David Berg's what he would call MO letters.
MO letters functioned. It was like a scripture slash policy
manual slash sexual manifesto all at once. Jeez, fuck, I

(22:35):
almost went myself right there. Careful, just I keep that
hang on me. The letters were relentless visions, dreams, sex theology,
discipline techniques, and micro rules for everything from childcare to
bed wedding, bed.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Sharing, the one rule to bed wedding don't oh man,
you know, do you remember when the last time have
you ever pissed the bed?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah? You fucking pissed the bed all the time, Dude, I.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
All the time, like a fucking sick dog. I sleep
on a trash bag, fucking plastic sheets.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, I think I've pissed myself once since we
started living here for like, you know, we've been here
eight years. And I definitely pissed the bed once. But
when I was living my mom and dads, Dude, I
would It's so funny. I'd pissed myself all the time.
This is one of the most horrific stories I've ever told.
But I was. I was in the living room.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
He'd do some kegels. Dude, that penis hole of yours.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I was in the living sleeping in the living room.
My mom and dad's okay, my mom is out. I
could hear out there doing laundry in the kitchen, and
I was on the couch, and uh, I remember I
started to get like morning wood. I was like, you know,
I don't really want to have morning wood in front him.
My blanket had fell off, fall fell off, and I
didn't want to grab it. Yeah, I told myself, I'm like,

(24:04):
all right, I don't really want to. You don't want
to grab the blanket of your dick, my dick in
front I just pulled up in the waistband. I was
wearing a kind of a longer shirt whatever, yep. And
I fell back asleep. Okay, not like a deep sleep,
just like that really good sleep where you just like
fall back asleep for a second. It feels like you're

(24:26):
only asleep for It feels like you're asleep for four days,
but you're really asleep for three minutes. Yeah. And I
have a dream and I'm fucking off in a waterfall
or something. And in the dream, I'm like, hell yeah,
am a pissed this waterfall?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's always your body always tells you in dreams that
you're about to piss.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
And I just started letting it rip. And from my
wiener had been up in my waistband. My my dick
holes pointed straight up towards my face and like between
like my waistband squashing my dick. It was like holding
your thumb over the end of a of a garden
hose ship. And I was spraying like there's piss hitting

(25:03):
me in the ear, dude, I mean I pissed in
my own ear.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Hell yeah, I was here and yellow anything sounded yellow,
and I was just kind of oh.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
He rolled out of the bed and my mom was like,
what's wrong? And I didn't want to be like I
just pissed over your couch. Yeah, So I was like
I saw a mouse and she's like, oh no, because
she's terrified of mice. Oh shit, where did it go?
And I'm still like kind of half tired. I was
like out of the front door, and the front door
is closed, Like, there's no way his mouse gut went

(25:38):
out the front door unless his fucking Mickey mouse and
opening itself.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
How your pal?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And uh my mom was like, oh okay, And I
just went to the bathroom and wrung my shorts out.
That was a strange time to be alive, right there. Man, Yeah,
that's great, And I often asked myself off, I wonder
if my mom saw my penis that day. It wouldn't

(26:06):
have been the first time though. Yeah. Yeah, he initially
changed my diaper and shit, anytime I make a big
dick reference, she's like stop it. She'd be like, I know, like,
you don't have to embarrass me like that, mom. Yeah.
My favorite thing about whenever you do you use wasteband technique.
Whenever you get a boner or tray, get rid of
it and it's like you look down and the little
guy I'll just be picking up over your waistband like Hi,

(26:29):
hey is here.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
If you need me.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
By nineteen seventy one, the Children of God cult, well,
they had over four thousand members popping up in Canadia, Europe,
everywhere all over the world. Honestly, parents they freaked out.
They started groups like free Cog that's free Doog or
free Children of God. They get their kids back saying

(26:52):
David Berg was brainwashing them. It looked like a big,
happy commune. But Berg, he had some weird ideas and
then nobody saw coming. Okay, David Berg wasn't your average preacher.
He was born in nineteen nineteen to hardcore Christian old fuckers,
old hardcore Christian parents, but he grew up as a

(27:12):
scrawny kid. Always he was reading, always preaching. His mom
was a goddamn weirdo. She was a faith healer. She
claimed that God talked to her, and she said that
David was destined for big things. He tried being a
pastor as well, but got the boot in the fifties
for allegedly getting a little too close with some of
the women in his church. By the late nineteen sixty

(27:34):
He's in California, calling himself Moses David or Father David.
He also just went by Dad short for everybody in
the cult. These four thousand people just call him Dad interesting,
and he would act like he was he behave like
he was God's mouthpiece, like his personal mouthpiece. His MO

(27:54):
letters letters, thousands of them. They were like his Bible,
telling followers how to live, how to think everything. David
was charming. He was in fact very charming, no doubt.
But kids like Michael, a nineteen year old who joined
in nineteen seventy, said he made you feel special, like

(28:15):
you were saving the world.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
But he.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Was very controlling behind the scenes. He told people to
cut off their families, quit their jobs, and live in communes.
And by nineteen seventy one, when the FBI started sniffing
around for kidnapping claims, David Berry actually split to Europe,
hiding out but still running the entire cult. Through these

(28:39):
MOE letters, he was able to just like pawns chess pieces,
he was still able to maneuver and manipulate all these
people with these with these MO letters, these fucking weird
ass scriptures that he wrote that weren't even really the Bible.
It was I'm telling you, like, these mo letters would

(29:01):
be like John three sixteen, God so love the world,
he gave his ever lasting love and heart whatever, and
it feels good to suck a man's dick. That's what
these things would look like. Fuck dad's dick, suck each
other's dicks. Yeah, there you go, And that's what this was.
This cult was all about, Like, suck each other's dicks.
It'll feel good.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Can you imagine reading something that's like a.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Typical scripture like Romans twelve twelve, He who traveled through
the life and search for God's hand may accidentally encounter
his hairy penis, and you should put it inside your body.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
It'll feel really good. And right back into the fucking
Bible rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
When the Lord reaches out and touches you on your privates,
lend him your privates or he will do unto them.
He will present thy with everlasting love. So weird, but uh,
part of these letters he would kind of include these

(30:03):
combustible ideas within the letters himself, but he would try
and describe that sex in itself was not a sin,
it was just love. It was not only love, but
it was a divine instrument of God. Through these mo letters,
he canonized a doctrine he called the law of Love.

(30:24):
If any act was loving and hurt no one, it
was God approved. We're talking about rectum sex, We're talking
about biting on nippleshuck, We're talking all of it. And
it did not Well, we'll get to the details a
little bit. And age was not a thing. He hooked
up with Karen Zerbi. She was a secretary. She's a secretary,

(30:49):
the old secretary Sexeterian. He would later become his second
wife and a big deal in the cult. His own daughter,
Deborah Deborah get in here e Bruh, later wrote a
book saying he was creepy with her as a kid,
red flags all over the place. He would touch her,
rubber kiss her in ways that a young girl is

(31:11):
not intended to be touched, rubbed, and kissed. David Berg's
big talk about love and Jesus was starting to sound
off like he was building up to something way darker
than anyone expected. Well, you don't say, And even the
followers started to take a little bit of notice. They're
just like, Okay, this is getting weirder and weirder by

(31:32):
the day, But let's roll with it, because he is
a He is an instrument of God, he's a mouthpiece
of God. And they were fully they were fully committed
to the fact that he was a holy bean, some
type of he said, holy bean. He was a holy bean.

(31:54):
Speaking of holy beans, you see that fucking UFO get
shot by a tomahawk missile. Fucking crazy. It blew apart
and then put.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Itself back together, and just like ah, it continued on
its trajectory and the pieces that blue Hoff kept fucking
going to.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it's fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, you sent me that shit. It's crazy, fucking wild. Dude,
I've shown everybody, And I told my wife, and my
wife looked me in the face, like aliens aren't real.
Come on, dude, look at that motherfucking hell fire missile
that just bounced right off of it. That doesn't happen weird.
And dude, I'll say this. I sent it to my brother.

(32:31):
And there's an acquaintance of ours at one point in
their life, very important in.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
The intelligence communial. Sure. Yeah, my brother was around this
person and said something to them about it. Yeah, and
this is somebody that would perhaps be in the know. Sure,
I can't give any details for fear of this person
might kill me more so than us at least. Yeah. Yeah,
and they said, oh, they finally got it done. Is

(33:03):
what when this person heard when it came up on
my brother showed this person the mutual acquaintance was like, oh,
they got it done. And my brother said, what do
you mean they got it done? And the person I
our acquaintance said, they've been working on this, they finally
got it done. And when they do these the person said,
when they do these videos like this, oh it did this,

(33:24):
it did that, that's their way of showing it to
foreign entities. Foreign governments will be like, look we got this,
don't fuck with us now. And I don't know if
I believe that or not. In my heart, I don't
believe it. Sure, in my heart, I don't feel like
the person it was as knowledgeable as we think. And

(33:45):
the reason I say that is because I have no
way of confirming. Yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It is very It would be a very smart technique,
a very uh you know, and we've talked about it
before where I think we've you know, we know that
anything that we've developed is way past technology that we
even know that exists for sure. No, it's it could
definitely could be.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I can build anything on Rodbox or Minecraft. Yeah, it
doesn't matter. So the children of God, we're living this
hippie Jesus vibe communes, no money, just sharing everything. They'd
studied a Berg's MOE letters, they'd sing songs and hit
the streets to spread the word. Berg's big idea was

(34:34):
the law of love, and that sounds nice, he said.
Christians didn't need old rules love Jesus christ Man. Sorry, guys,
that's all right. You're good. Yeah, I'm good. Oh, it's
sounds like you got a Glizzy stuck in there, Lizzy Gobbler.
How's a good sneeze? Man? I love a good sneeze.
It feels good. I like after I sneeze, get Disney

(34:54):
and feel like I'm having a heart attack. That's how
I know it's a good one. Get chest pains and shit.
Love was in fact the only law, and by nineteen
seventy his MO letters were saying sex was a gift
from God, no limits as long as it was loving. Amen.
To folks like Rachel, who joined A twenty years old,
it felt like freedom, she said, We were breaking all

(35:15):
the chains. They lived tight though bunk beds, they shared clothes,
kids raised by the group, not just parents. School forget
about it. David Berg's letters were all you needed, plus
some Bible scripture. Okay. Now, the people in the cult,
they would beg for cash, they'd sing for they'd sing
songs on the sidewalk for pocket change to keep the

(35:36):
communs going. David Berg kept saying the world was ending
in nineteen seventy three, that there was this comic, a
coment that was coming called the Cahu Tech was supposed
to be a sign that indeed the world was coming
to an end. Everyone was hyped waiting for the apocalypse.
And we've dealt with a few of these guys, and

(35:58):
even in our time, they claim that the end of
the world is coming and it never yep. I'm just like, please, God,
one of you get this right for once. This mayans
Man I was counting on them though, helped me get
these bills to come to an end. But he also
got strict no TV, no outside news, and if your

(36:20):
family did not buy in, they were of the devil.
Oh Man, anything but that. Susan, the runaway that we
talked about from earlier she started missing her mom, but
she was told to shut it out. But here's where
it starts to get a little weird. And I don't
mean a little weird, I mean a lot of weird.
Berg wasn't just talking about love like hugs and high fives.

(36:41):
He personally was sleeping with a bunch of women, calling
it godly.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Brother, His letters started hinting at sex being a way
to worship, and nobody blinked. They all believe this guy.
Everyone in the cult. They were all in at this point.
In nineteen seventy four, David Berg rolled out something called
flirty fishing. Oh fuck yeah, dude, or f f ing

(37:07):
and if you've ever done some hard FFing, buddy, Me
and the old lady were sitting out the other day
just f f and each other. I ain't talking about
freedom fighting, We're talking about fishy flirting. Finger fucking finger
fucking Sally. You ever heard that song It's too dumb

(37:29):
our dads like I love that ship. That was our
dad's version of TikTok.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
And ship fucking brain rots to his song finger fucking Telly.
I forgot about that, dude.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
My dad had met me listening to some wild Ship.
Bob and Bob and Tom always had good stuff on ship.
Just like that, Yeah, just like that. I remember he
used to driving to school in the morning or driving wherever,
and he'd always have on Bob and Tom. They're like,
I remember that one song. It was modeled after Cocomo.

(38:04):
What was it called? Pant like panted?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I go.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Damn while all the bearded clam I'm trying to think
of the words they always did. Ship. Bet see your
painted taco. I'm like, da, what's a painted taco? He's like,
it's a pus No, he said, he said, it's a
monkey him his friends would call vagina monkey. I hate

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You know, I'm four or five years old. Joey Diaz
calls it called the pussy a monkey too. They get
drunk and they'd be like, go tell her you see
your monkey, and I'll like, show me your monkey.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I think it's a real fucking monkey.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah. They had me do heinous ship. Dude. She pulls
out her old fucking puss.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Oh God, so Harry.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, I like pussies to make noises and you get
them out flirty fishing FFing. He takes that Bible line
about being fishes of men and twists it this the hair.
Women in the cult were told to go out flirt
with guys and yeah, fuck them to bring them to

(43:22):
jesus Berg's mow. Letter number eight eight eight says God
love means physical love too. Women like Danielle twenty two
at the time, thought it was their mission. She said,
I was saving souls. She told the CBC years later.
They'd dress sexy, they'd hit bars, they'd work his escorts

(43:44):
all to fish converts or get donations. Wow, all right,
So just to break that down for you, this guy
who was preaching on the Word of God, which I'm
not a religious dude, but I do know enough about
the Word of God to know that this is not
part of it. He had these women essentially soliciting sex

(44:06):
with men or donations, which that's called prostitution, or to
get them to come back to the community to live
and be a part of the cult. And he was
doing all of this well, it was all driven with sex.
Wodinky sex too nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy four. Sex. Yeah,
that hit different, not the good sex. And this was

(44:28):
not optional. David made single women do it, sometimes leaving
their kids their husbands for weeks. He kept score. Two
hundred and twenty three thousand guys were fished by nineteen
eighty eight, with ten thousand converts and tons of babies
called Jesus babies because condoms were a sin. Danielle said
it felt like prostitution. She'd hand over the cash of

(44:50):
the commune. It's actually transmitted diseases like herpes spread like wildfire.
David Berg's letters, like one called the Devil Hates Sex,
heard it on, saying these women were like Bible heroines
in poor countries because This was going on all over
the world. They'd trade sex for food or help, which

(45:10):
is even more grim. Man, you need like a your
driveway repave or something, pay for it with your ass.
I wouldn't do that. Actually, I don't know. They're pretty
that's pretty expensive. I do need a new driveway, So
if anybody wants to pay, if I could pay for
like a new roof with my ass, yeah, I would
just get fucked in the butt. Yeah, pulled me down? Yeah?

(45:33):
Is it cool? If I turn on Creed, I would
do this. Do you like it? When I fart? Call
me fort Naddy. Back in the clubhouse, they called me
fart Naddy. Two hundred and twenty three thousand men were fished.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Good lord, dude, dude, men are so horny. You gotta
pump those numbers up, and they are summer of love. Brother.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
If you said no, you were unyielded, and they'd shame
you or kick you out. Berg's wife, Karen Zerby, she
was all in, even having a kid by the name
of Ricky Rodriguez or double R. Though she did this
by FFing, not with her husband. She did this she
secured Ricky Rodriguez through ff ing, Hey, you want a ff.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
That's so fucking weird, old fart finger.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
By nineteen eighty seven, the AID scare that came along,
and the AID scare actually scared them enough into stopping
this reckless sexual fucking, this sexual currency that they're using
to to pay all their debts. They only believed that
was the gays. Well, that's the thing is, once a

(46:48):
gay guy has aids, he can give it to everybody
that you can give it to the ladies or the men. Yeah,
don't know about goats and shit. I have no records
of them fucking animals just so or clear there. I
guess that's the silver lighting, right, that's something. Yeah, fucking kids, yep,
fucking everybody, yep. Animals. Oh no. I was going through

(47:12):
our our Brohio Confessions, which we'll probably do a Confessions
episode later this week, and a lot of stuff in
there about people fucking animals now really or if that's
for real? Though, seemed like it, okay, seemed like it
something some burden. You're all fucking dirty. He goes it dirty.

(47:32):
And now the story kind of gets a little more, uh,
horrifying at this point. The children of God didn't just
mess with adults. They went after kids as well. David's
letters in the nineteen seventies, like the Little Girl Dream
started saying sex with kids was actually okay and it
was even godly. He wrote in nineteen eighty that kids

(47:55):
as young as two could enjoy it and parents could
reach them. They called it sharing love. There was even
a nine hundred page book, The Story of Daviddido, about
raising his son Ricky, showing him being touched as a
baby like it was a normal, how to guide kids

(48:17):
grew up in communes away from parents with no real school.
A young lady by the name of Verdy Carter, who
was four in a Scottish commune, told the BBC it
was literally hell. Her dad and others abused her. She
got beat for wedding the bed. Christina, who was eleven
when she joins at a nineteen eighty letter published or

(48:39):
a pushed adult to show kids sex is healthy, she
was assaulted by a much older couple, an adult couple.
Rose McGowan, Yeah, the actress. She grew up an Italian commune,
Rose McGowan. Is she the one she used to date
Marilyn Manson back in the day. All these people were weird? Yes,

(48:59):
she showed up at that one red carpet and just
like a fucking like a naked yeah, with like goldfish
in or heels or something. It was. It was like, yeah,
it was like a.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Fucking what do they call that shit? Fishnet? There you go,
he has a whole fishnet outfit.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah. Yeah, she's she's wild. In her book Brave, she
talks about beatings and adults messing with kids like it
was normal. River Phoenix and Joaquin Phoenix. That's a cool
fucking name. They both have really cool names. They said. Well.
River said in a nineteen ninety one interview that he
had sex at the age of four Jesus Christ and
this wasn't rare. It was the system. Berg's letters said,

(49:34):
incest was fine, and it was even encouraged. Kids were
initiated young, sometimes as babies. By the nineteen eighties, thousands
of second gen kids, many from FFing, were stuck. Yeah,
they were stuck in this the ancestral circle of what
of this nasty shit that he was preaching. Did River
Phoenix kill himself? I know he did die, but I'm

(49:56):
not sure how he died. Yeah, I don't know either.
He is in fact dead though. Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah,
Joaquin is truly a weird individual. Yeah, but I feel
like he's a remarkable actor. Right, he does a really
good job. No, he does. He does a great job.

(50:18):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Drugs drugs twenty three. Man, that's fucking crazy. That's so young,
handsome guy combined drug intoxication, overdose on cocaine and heroin speedballs.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Man, viper room. Well you're fucking when you're four years old. Man,
it messes you up. He was at the Viper Room.
Jet's crazy, rewires you. It makes you Yeah, dude, they
all have like.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Joaquin Phoenix, Rain Phoenix, Summer Phoenix, Liberty Phoenix. Cool fucking
names man, really cool names, bad family.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And then he got Joe Deane Bottom.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I like the name jo Dene. I don't know why
I'm the power Bottom. Yeah, or call me power Bottom PB. Now.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
There were raids in Australia nineteen ninety three that found
child pornography. A British court in nineteen ninety five called
it a systematic abuse and the worst part they sold
it his love. It was it was plain and simple,
it was grooming. Oh yeah, and it broke a lot
of these people for life, much like we just talked
about River Phoenix overdosing on drugs well in adulthood twenty

(51:25):
three man young. I had imagine that a lot of
that has to do with how poor of a childhood
and how much he suffered as a young boy. Sure
David wasn't pulling this off alone, though. He had a
crew who kept the machine running, and they were just
as fucking twisted as he was. His second wife is
Sextary Karen Zerbe, who we talked about earlier. She was

(51:46):
by far and away the biggest player in all this.
She joined in nineteen sixty nine typing his letters, then
became his lover and co leader. She pushed his crazy
ideas like ff ing and even had Ricky the Davidido
Kid to prove it. When Berg died in nineteen ninety four,
she took over running the show with her new husband,

(52:07):
Steven Kelly. They kept things tight, hiding from cops and
burning any letters that they could get them busted. Then
there were the Shepherds, which were local leaders like Derek
Lincoln in Scotland who got nailed in twenty twenty for
raping girls in the eighties. There was Alexander Watt, who
was another big shot. He was locked up in twenty

(52:28):
eighteen for abusing his daughter Verity from the age of four,
and on.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Glad to see the statute of limitations if I can
keep so. Yeah, he's on trucking for these assholes.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
These guys enforced Berg's rules. They beat kids for demons.
They would push the FFing and they woul pretty much
just keep everybody in line. Berg's own daughter, Deborah Baby
Dirty d wrote in her nineteen eighty four book that
he molested her as a kid, and that was her
own dad, and Zerbe was no better. She helped David

(53:00):
Dido the book, showing off Ricky's abuse like it was
a trophy. The inner circle lived better than the rest
fancy houses while members literally begged for scraps, beg for food,
and lived in cloth rags. David Berg, you know, like
you said earlier, he was hiding in Europe, sent purge
notices to destroy evidence like child sex manuals. When Ricky

(53:24):
killed a nanny in two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
God damn dude, fucking shit that just you will head
into that so like nonchalantly.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Good Ricky, bad Ricky, good Ricky bad Ricky. And remember
David called Ricky his son. But Ricky was actual he
was a product of hard FFing. I mean there's certain
degrees of the ff ing, and Ricky Rodriguez or devid

(53:58):
Do as they called him, he was he was a
product a hard FFing. Yeah yeah, looks for him. Yeah.
But when he killed a nanny in two thousand and
five and then killed himself, he blamed Zerbi in a video,
calling her out for the abuse, and he's enablers. They
kept the cult secrets and their loyalty to Berg's vision

(54:20):
let their uh, they let this stuff slide for years
and years and years. They they covered it all up,
and I think they all should have just been executed. Yeah,
for sure. By the mid nineteen seventies, oh, the Children
of God, they weren't just a California thing. They were worldwide.

(54:43):
David was he kind of stayed on the run from
the cops. He set up shop in Europe and soon
they had communes in one hundred and thirty different countries,
from Brazil all the way to Thailand. And a really
good joke, as you ask somebody the capital of Thailand,
they're like, I don't know. You say Bangkok, and you
punch them in the Wiener YEP, that's a really good
one if you want to do that. They'd send members

(55:04):
to new places, preaching, begging and starting colonies. By nineteen
seventy four they hit ten thousand members. They're living in
cramped houses, spreading Berg's word. It was almost like a virus.
The mo letters. They went everywhere, telling people how to live,
to sleep with, how to fucking touch a baby. But
the bigger they got, the more heat they took. Parents

(55:27):
in the United States and Europe they started getting pissed,
obviously they're losing their kids, saying these kids were brainwashed, abducted.
They started the Free Cog group. That parent group got
the FBI and Interpool involved, claiming kidnapping. In David Berg's answer,
yo harder, he pushed FFing globally with women hooking up

(55:47):
with locals for cash or converts in poor countries. It
was it was like we stated before, it was just
pure exploitation that they were having sex for food, for clothes.
It was I'd fuck for food, man. It depends on
the It depends on the on the food. Good gluy
corn dogg lets. Let's let's talk about some corn dogs.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
We always talk about corn dogs.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
That was our I put it on our Facebook status
the other day. That's something I'll challenge anybody in the
world a corn dog geting contest.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
That one fucking bad review we got not too long ago.
This I'm ten minutes in this episode and we're talking about,
is how many corn dogs they can fit in their ass.
I was like, dude, that's cool as fuck.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Are you gonna give a bad.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Review on that?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
How many? We say? How? Is that not fun to you?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
You don't want you listening anyways, your prude, You can't
talk about fitting as many corn dogs as possible in
your ass and not be entertained.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Jen c is a bitter pill, right. The cult went
on to try and clean up their image. In nineteen
seventy eight, David Berg dissolved the Children of God, calling
it the Family of Love. It was the same fucking deal,
new name, same game, still the awful stuff. Literally all

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it did was changing the name. But thankfully by the
nineteen eighties, the raids started occurring Australia. Nineteen ninety three,
they recovered they grabbed one hundred and thirty nine kids
that were product of FFing and just converts in the
cult found tons of child pornography, Spain busted members for prostitution,

(57:30):
and David Berg he stayed in hiding his wife Zerbi.
She kept writing letters and the abuse kept going. In
the craziest part, they thought that they were kind of untouchable,
like God was on their side. Even as the world
started catching on to how twisted their cult was and
all the scandals kind of started to hit hard there

(57:52):
in the late nineteen seventies. The press forgetting all of
it shut down was the was, thankfully the Free Cog Group,
and they would pretty much stay in the media. Kind
of these people were losing their kids.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
But the.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
The immense amount of brainwashing these and that's what sucked
is these kids would grow up in these communities. They
grew up from the from the moment that they're born,
they were being sexually abused. So whenever it came time
to shut these communes down and bring these people to justice,
these kids didn't want to be taken They like, all

(58:39):
they knew was they were being raised by forty or
fifty different people. They didn't want to be taken away.
They wanted to stay where they're at, and they didn't
realize kind of what they're how horrific what they were
being subjected to, how how horrific it actually was. There's
just not naivity, man, yeah, man, it sucks. The biggest
shocker in two thousand and five, and Ricky Rodriguez, the

(59:03):
Chosen One, as they called him. He was burning. He
was you know, like we said, he was born through
flirty fishing. Ricky was raised as the prophet. The Colts
nine hundred page story of Davidito showed him being abused
from infancy, touched it four months sex play by the

(59:24):
age of four, all photographed for like a manual. Berg
called it revolutionary, but it was just pedophilia. Playing simple
is really what it was. Ricky unfortunately grew up isolated, beaten,
and messed with all sold as God's love. He bailed
at the age of eighteen. He tried to try to

(59:45):
a normal life, even got married, but the trauma wouldn't
let go. Twenty nine years old, he kind of lost control.
He invited his old nanny, Angela Smith, one of his
former abusers, to his place, and stabbed her to death
and shot himself. In a video. He called out his
mom Zerbe said she's got to pay for this pedophile cult.

(01:00:08):
The La Times tied it to twenty five other cult
kids suicide since the nineteen nineties. Survivors saw it his justice.
The cult called him troubled. Ricky's death it did blow
the It blew the lid off with leaked Davidido pages
showing the abuses depth. And you know that's something that

(01:00:30):
I would not encourage anybody to try and investigate, yeah,
an or the contents of it, unless you want to
go to jail. And then survivors started to spill their
guts though. One survivor by the name of Faith Jones,
which was Berg's granddaughter, wrote the book Sex Cult None
in twenty twenty one about growing up in a McCall

(01:00:52):
commune endless chores. Then she was claims she was, claim
she was. She was shared sexually as a teen. She
escaped the age of twenty three and she became a lawyer.
She told the NPR that sex was serving God. There's
another young lady by the name of Danielle Danielle Young.

(01:01:16):
She wrote a book called on Culture to describe Brazil's
communes where the children were beat for bed wedding. She
was forced to watch rapes. There were no doctors at
the communes. She fled at the age of fifteen years
old and joined the army, but says the Colt's grip
it lingered for long after. Verity Carter, who we talked
about earlier in the episode she was abused from the

(01:01:38):
age of four in Scotland, told the BBC in two
thousand and eight it was hell her dad got her
dad went to jail for raping her. Rose McGowan talked
in her book Brave about the Italian communes and it
was much of the same, just beatings, children being molested,

(01:02:03):
and this is all passed off as fucking crazy man,
God's love, God's way of showing love. She another young
lady by the name of Natasha Tormi in her twenty
fourteen book, counts forty suicides among her peers. And these
these folks lost everything, no school, no freedom, just Berg's

(01:02:26):
letter pushing abuses love. The David Dido book was their
sick playbook. Survivors built exfamily dot Org to share stories
and leaked documents, fighting back, finally fighting back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
The the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Well turned around here, but the law finally did start
to move. It was slow. A nineteen ninety five British
judge called the Family International, which was their new The
Children of God cult changed their name to the Family International.
The judge called their cult a called them a cult

(01:03:08):
with systematic abuse in a custody case. And there was
we've talked about the nineteen ninety three raids in Australia,
but the cult paid off victims like the Jones sisters
in quiet lawsuits. There were Hollywood ties. River Phoenix's nineteen
ninety three overdose McGowan story that made it even bigger news.

(01:03:28):
There was David Berg's leaked letters bragging about kid sex
proved that they were in fact guilty of everything that
was kind of perpetuated. And these members that were kind
of their ff their finger fucked and kind of brought
into this cult. They gave up their jobs, they gave

(01:03:51):
up money, They pretty much gave up the rights their
children as well, who they allowed to be raised by
the community. Women got STDs, unwanted pregnancy, the three thousand
second Gin kids by the nineteen nineties, they got it
worse though. They were had been abused their entire lives,
no education and they were just essentially trapped let's see

(01:04:19):
per Yeah, well, uh, River Phoenix parents begged on streets.
After fleeing in nineteen ninety seven, McGowan's family ran through
a cornfield to escape the Children of God cult. Children
of God's love bombing tactic became a cult blueprint that
can still be seen in a lot of cults out

(01:04:39):
there today. And that's kind of what they do in
these cults, man, is they bombard you with love. And
you know what was what was crazy is whenever we
went to uh, whenever I went to the Scientology, the
Church of Scientology in Clearwater. Yeah, as soon as you

(01:05:04):
walk in, there is just this unfriend like, uncomfortable amount
of friendliness right from everybody in there. I remember you
saying that. And the craziest thing about the interaction is
there's a nice, really really nice lady the front desk

(01:05:30):
and she stood up, she started walking around following me,
and finally she's like, so, what brings you in today?
And I was like I was going to tell her
the truth, Like, look, I'm just like I'm here, just
I'm intrigued. I'm just looking around. I want to know
why you guys are so fucking weird at the fucking circus, man.
I want to see some monkeys. Yeah. Yeah, And when

(01:05:51):
I look past her. There's a long hallway. See walk in.
There's a long hallway to the right. And I looked
past her. There was a handful of people with their
faces like peeking around a corner looking at me. It's
like looking at me, and uh, I said, why would
I say? I said, oh, you know, I'm just stopped.
I'm a tourist. I'm just stopping through real quick. As

(01:06:12):
soon as I said that, you're like door starts shutting,
and all those people that were staring at me in
the hallway, they just all kind of like vanished like
thanos Man. They're just gone in the in the snap
of a finger. And she said, okay, well, we appreciate
you stopping in, turn right around, walk back to the desk,
and didn't speak another word to him. It's crazy. It
was the most uncomfortable shit, dude. And I think if

(01:06:36):
I would have said something like I'm lost, I have
no hope, I'm I'm desperate for help. Yeah, I think
I would have been raped. It definitely would have been.
Uh pulled back into a back room, and I think
I would they put me on the black leather couch.
They'd been like you ever made videos before? They put

(01:06:56):
me on the casting couch. Tom Cruiser came out and
fuck wore you out. Like I know, my I got
one front tooth right in the middle of my head.
They don't let that detour you from Mission Impossible, Too,
was the greatest movie you ever made. You know, I've
never seen a Mission Impossible movie. Me neither never interested.

(01:07:17):
I'm not interested at all. Yeah, I will say that
dude's a pretty fucking he's a good actor. Oh, he's
put together. Man DIBs on him for doing his own
stunts too, that's cool as fuck. Yep. After Berg died
in nineteen ninety four, they banned the kid sex in
nineteen ninety five. Oh ninety five, okay, good pretty much.
Let people live normally by by two thousand and four.

(01:07:39):
In two thousand and nine they said sorry for hurts,
but deny the worst. Survivors like Jones called out creepy
stuff like loving Jesus, Where Christ your lover?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
That's kind of fucking gross. But and the cops to
this day are still kind of digging around. France probed
a bunch of rapes. In twenty twenty, Scotland jailed guys
for old crimes. The Children are God cult. It started
a fade, but it's legacy. It's it's kind of still around.
But to this day, I want to say there's around

(01:08:12):
like around fifteen hundred members in seventy five countries that
are still around in this culty. Man, they call it
the Family something, the TFI, TFI disgusting stuff. Man, it's
one of the Honestly, it's popped up in my research

(01:08:35):
a lot of the years, like this Family International, the
Family International. It's popped up a lot over the years
for us to cover. And finally today I started researching
it and I got all the way through the end
of it and I was like, man, this is really
fucking awful. I almost don't want to talk about it,

(01:08:55):
but I don't have time to research something else. Here
we are, we know more about the Children of God.
So next time somebody says something about David Berg, you
know he's a creepy fucker, man, Yeah, fucking loser, creepy
little fucker. We are so excited to come to Dallas
to be with you and touch you, oh fuck, and

(01:09:17):
be inside of you, Dallas, Texas. People keep saying I'm
gonna get robbed. I don't know if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, someone told me to day that I was somebody
just got fucking like shanked in a hotel or something
there like hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Nothing good ever happens to me. Now we come with
a very clear message. We want to hang out and
have fun, laugh, lots of fFN. You guys get to
be part of the show. We're gonna do some hardcore
ff and drugs. Drugs. I've never done Texas drugs. I'm

(01:09:57):
not gonna stop in Memphis after doing a quick crime
uh deep dive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
You don't want to stop through there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Literally all I did, yeah, is I googled crime Memphis.
There's a fucking fucking Donald Trump talking about Trump sending
a goddamn crackdown team right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, you don't want to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Trump signs proclamation targeting Memphis crime. We must do what
we can to keep the boys from Brohio from going
to Memphis. I'm talking to you, blackfellows there in Memphis,
leave them alone. Moida, there was a Moida seems like

(01:10:44):
a good place to die. Yeah, six hours ago from
White House dot gov. You can't trust anything from you can,
but you can't crime in Memphis. What you need to
know Criminal Justice, Council on Counsel on Crime Justice. It's
all Trump stuff right now. That's what it looks like,

(01:11:05):
which that tells me it's just like a probably is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Memphis Police Department says crimes at historic twenty five year low,
that they have an agenda to push man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Nothing says we're doing a great job out here. Nothing
says I'm not doing my job like a bake.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Ass police Police Department saying the crimes dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I'm in that, like, I know what it's like. Just
be like, Okay, go to your boss and be like,
this is the lowest amount of money we spent twenty
five years. Yeah, and he's like, great job, thatt you
on the back twenty five year low. I don't know.
There is another way to go to It adds about
an hour drive, but it seems like a more peaceful
place to stop. One of our listeners, Dave Ponce, says,

(01:11:55):
stay at the Graceland because it's got so Yeah. I'm like,
I don't got Elvis money. We have Graceland money. Graceland, Yeah,
that'd be cool, though, I would love to tour Graceland.
It's one hundred dollars dude and walk through that, just
to walk through it. He's fucking dead, He's floating through

(01:12:15):
there like a Then I would do it. I would
do the tour by just walking through there and seeing
his fucking ghost just shimming across the floor, walking to the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Oh, just wearing a T shirt. This little pecker hanging out, Yeah,
little ghost pecker.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Wonder there's any information about Elvis's penis? Well, yeah, I
wonder if he had a hog. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
I feel like young Elvis probably did have a hog.
Sex with Elvis. Elvis's dick almost caused a riot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Hell yeah, dude, sex with Elvis, friend Elvis.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
You know what you know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
That girl I was with last night, friend, that dog Elvis.
Oh man, she gave great head. Boy, Hey Joe, that
chick last night gave the greatest head. That was a
quote about Oh yeah, Elvis, Elvis love getting dick sucked.
I think I saw something about him and being uncircumcised.
That doesn't that doesn't surprise me. Elvis would be appalled
by how much we know about his sex life thanks

(01:13:18):
to his tail walls from his ex wife, girlfriends, and staff.
Everything from his uncircumcised penis to his underwear fetish is
now public record, and truth is sexual quirks were not
that cank. He just strange and uniquely Elvis. His poor
girlfriends were forever puzzled by his inclinations. Too often they
questioned their own sexuality rather than his.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Can you imagine imine fucking Elvis grabbing your fucking bloomers
and taking a hit of him?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
If only where are you are going?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
On?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
There? If only here had been a girl's guide. Smells
like two labradors took a ship in this baby, okay,
I said one of the like you had to give
good head in order to be with Elvis. One biography
report that a female bedmate described as six foot tall
Elvis as on the slight side of normal in terms

(01:14:14):
of his penis size. He was not hung very well.
He was just average size, maybe even a little smaller
than average, and anous. You had to you can't have
everything in armybody, said. Elvis told him that pulling out
and finishing the job himself was his preferred way of

(01:14:35):
preventing pregnancy, said, I remember the first time we had
sex and he masturbated instead of having completed intercourse. That
seventies area girlfriend Sheila Ryan, I was devastated. I thought,
oh my god, I'm not enough. What's the matter with me?
Oh my god, make a little belly button pool. Do
wear plain white ondies, don't bikini wax. Barbara Lay, who

(01:14:59):
dated him in the nineteen and seventies, reported he liked
certain things like white lace panties with a bit of
pubic hair coming out of the sides. Don't trim that. Pussy.
Baby told me that he was very important because when
he was a young boy of thirteen or fourteen, he
tumbled around with some girls in the yard and saw

(01:15:20):
their white panties.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Due those are the ones that show the skid marks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Brother, he not some chocolate in your own there's no
food in the bed. He was a classic voyeur, said
one of his girlfriends. He took hundreds of stills with
Priscilla alone, and films are prancing around with other girlfriends.
The best man at Elvis's wedding talked about Priscilla wrestling

(01:15:48):
with girls at Elvis's request in his tail All book.
He was particularly turned on by two girls together, a
relatively innocent fantasy. Elvis convinced Priscilla to perform while he
played video director. So what we learned about Elvis women

(01:16:13):
with big bushes and white cotton panties.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
He was I can't imagine something more opposite of what
today's standards.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
He is uncircumcised, which means he had a stinky wiener
and he was on the slight side of less than normal.
In other words, he had a little penis. Only we only, like,

(01:16:45):
where else would you learn about that? Just a casual,
casual conversation, know what? So what you've learned over the
years from us Elvis has a little penis, he's uncircumcised,
a dick stunk, he liked bushes. And you also learned
that Hitler had a micro penis and the whole was
on the bottom of the head like a fawcet's like
a bath faucet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Like a water spiggott on the outside of your house.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
The only way he compete was with a boner. Yeh,
that's that's fucking crazy, man, that's wild. Hitler's dick. We've
taught you so much stuff, and you guys take some
some of this stuff for granted, you do. You can
bring this up anytime. It's a party trick. Fuck to
your boss about this, to like, I want to talk
to you about Elvis's penis. You want to hear something
about Elvis' sex life? You know, Elvis, the Pelvis dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
There's nothing nice about fucking women's underwear from the sixies,
like that the other fudg stripes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Dude, those are dirty as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
That's taint. That's taint dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
I don't know. I googled Elvis' penis size.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Pull on some of his fucking bloomers, and there's a
pair of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
There's a book elvis is underwear with a bunch of
ship stains in it. What is even is this dude?
His dick smelled so bad looking fucking ship himself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
It looks like those underwear back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Why is there poop on the fucking winger side of
the underwear?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
It's on the outside. He took a big baby ship
came up his back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
We're like, we're learning about Elvis, and uh, there's a
pair of white bloomers. There's like a piss flap on
the underwear, which, hey that I feel like that's cutting
technology for the sixties, right, And it's covered and ship
like the crotch and penis areas covered.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Yeah, it's the whole sack he's got ship all over
his sack. He got fucking poopy balls.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Pressley. Wow, what an unfortunate situation to be that rich
and that powerful and just walk around with the underwear
full of chocolate. Man, I wonder you were like carpet
on a ceiling in his house and ship the dragon

(01:19:04):
his ass like a dog, dead dog.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Picture the fucking big open V, fucking deep V.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Someone offered eight thousand dollars for Elvis Presley's dirty underwear
filled with skid marks. Good price.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Hanging that up in the studio, man, right next to
these ones?

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
What like what if we acquired these by chance and
it just like smell like like even after sixty years,
these things just smell like poop.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Does have to be late life Elvis underwear? Right, he
was a fucking stud when he was younger. Man, he
was a good look the underwear he died in. Oh yeah,
he definitely should. Yeah he fucking he leaked.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
I don't know, it doesn't it doesn't say that for sure.
Oh excuse me, Well, all right, they got a leaky button. Man,
on thousand dollars, you can get Elvis's ship standing on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I hope they're vacuum sealed. Deal in that fresh Oh god,
ah fuck, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I'm gonna go have some dinner. But in the meantime,
thank you guys for tuning in this week. Love you, guys,
Appreciate you. It means an immense amount that after eight years,
you're still here with us and we're still with you.
We just continue to celebrate the good days with you, guys,
and keep on making memories. Many come see us in Texas.
What's enough. We're gonna be forty soon. Now. Fuck you

(01:20:29):
started this when we're thirty. We're gonna be forty soon.
We got a fucking twenty year anniversary fucking from high
school this year. I don't think they're doing it. You
don't think so. I mean I haven't seen anything. I
don't really care that. I don't want to fucking go now.
I mean, you can just go celebrate somewhere we fuck
did it was hot Rod.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
It could just be us that just naming off all
the people that have died in our class and we're
still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
I'm all from Elvis.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Never believe what we've got.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
There was this girl that I thought one hundred scent died.
I looked her up the other day and I found
her she looks like she is met the funk out,
but she's still alive. Really. Her last name was Swallows.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I just remember she had
There's there's a couple of girls that I thought that
we're dead that are still alive, and it surprised me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Yeah, we're alive. We're probably closer to death than they
are with how we eat, and I don't know, I
don't think so. Yeah. Yeah, all right, Elvis, rest in peace,
and uh go go buy some tickets to the live show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Please come join us, have a beer. We'll pick you
up and take you well hard f f yeah all right, guys. Hm,

(01:21:59):
I was of that day.