The Chicago Ripper Crew

In the early 1980s, Chicago was stalked by one of the most deranged cult-like murder squads in American history. Led by carpenter Robin Gecht and fueled by ritual obsession, the Chicago Ripper Crew abducted, tortured, and mutilated women in the suburbs and city streets—leaving police baffled and a community terrified. Tonight, we dig into the attic rituals, the razor-blade bloodletting, the satanic rumors, and the shocking connection to serial killer John Wayne Gacy. Brutal, graphic, and truly nightmare fuel… this is the Chicago Ripper Crew.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
All right, we're gonna start it over all over again,
straight from the top. That's him number two here ago
Robert Dogg. I was on my way to work this
morning and I had a tear in my eye. I
was so fucking happy for the farmers that had an
extra hour of daylight this morning that I could have driven.

(00:37):
I could have drove off a goddamn highway overpast I
could have bathed a whole family of fucking toasters. I
was so happy for these farmers and their extra hour
of daylight and what they've taken from us. At the
end of the day, I was taking my three thirty
shit today and the sun was going down. Isn't that

(00:57):
fucking nuts? And I hate daily time so much. He's
no depression on day one. I went to the gym
today just so I could shake off a little bit
of it. A little bit of it. Yeah, it didn't work, right.
I still feel like, Hell, I'm sad because it's dark.
I'm not sad because black. I'm just sad because the
sun is down outside. Yeah. Yeah, So don't take it

(01:19):
the wrong way. We went to the store.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Not only is the Store of sat a curse, but
we went earlier yesterday and by the time we got out.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
At six, it was pitch black outside and there's nobody
out of the store because nobody has their food stamps.
Everyone's nobody. The economy shut down, the SNAP is shutting down.
All the federal employees, they're not getting paid. God damn
cat's living with dogs. But the farmers got their hour

(01:46):
of day like all your harvest and corn an hour earlier. Jesus.
Welcome to the Brohio Podcast. Everybody. I'm the Delicious Delicious,
I'm the dog of rob Hey, guys, how's it going.
You've never been with us before. Usually the first thirteen
to fifteen minutes of this show is dedicated to absolute
chenanikins and just things that don't make a whole lot

(02:09):
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(02:35):
That sounds sexy, dude, Yeah, yeah, that sounds like like
an enchantress that visits you in the middle of the night, like, oh,
you can't open your eyes because we're all stuck together,
and she's like, who are you? And she's like, I'm
your I'm here for yourre I'm here for your are.
Aura looks into your room and puts a spell and
just makes your butt cheeks open up. That'd be so

(02:56):
mad aha my mot Yeah. No, do you feel like
you have Aura? No either, not at all that out.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I want to. I want to kill myself too
much to have anywhere. I'm just not not man enough
to go through with it. And speaking of one to
kill himself, we got Evan Reamer file fucking last name
was ram Or.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Boy, that's something do your butthole if you're lucky, Evan,
that's what is gonna do to your butthole? Brother, some
gonna do my old wade and I'm a reamer out
gotta give or some of that gone. Are people still
get gonoiria? I don't know. Nasty motherfuckers still get gonorrhea.

(03:40):
You's gotta get a shot that get rid of that.
Don't you play media. Yeah, probably somebody that has it
that just doesn't want to get rid of it. They could,
they just choose not to. It feels good. I lock
popping the sores. I lock the pressure. If you have
chlamydia and you like it, send us an email Brohio
podcast add Gmail. Donehoo. Dude. I could not find an

(04:04):
article to save my life this week. Okay, I had
a dumb one up here about a fucking EMU named
Frank that the Caughton Phoenix checks out. There was a
video with it. The cop hold him down and Frank's like,
a damn it, Frank, that's the most EMU name ever.

(04:25):
This CoP's like, you can tell it what to get all.
The cop wanted to get all fucking law enforcer on it,
but it's just a fucking EMU. So it was the
white EMU. So he didn't shoot him. She's holding Frank now,
he's like, he sounds like a drunk guy at the bar.
Maybe we won't play it at the end of the show.
I don't want to hear that audio. But this article
I did find it popped up as a notification on

(04:46):
my phone on my way home from work. Hell ya,
I don't know why I don't look up stuff on Grinder,
but Wisconsin man was arrested Tuesday for stalking after police
said he used Grinder it's the cooking app to se
the strangers to a victim's home as a form of harassment. Okay,
that helped me make sense of this. Robert Matthew Pushmahman

(05:11):
is accused of what police called a year long pattern
of disturbing and intrusive behavior. Police said hoop Chaman used
a dating app Grinder to arrange meetings between unknown men
and his victim. Hoopschman would pose as the victim, according
to police, then direct men to the victim's home and
instruct them to enter the residence upon arrival. That's fucked up, man.

(05:40):
You imagine you're a home and just a bunch of
horny guys just purging dude, some forty year old married
man that hasn't been laid in three years with a
fucking all amped up on gas station boner pills, walks
in harry home. You said it is coming in. Over
the course of more than a year, numerous men arrived

(06:02):
at the victim's home under the false pretenses. Police said
the harassment created a constant sense of fear into stress
for the victim and their household. I'd say so. The
suspect reportedly positioned himself nearby to watch the men arrive,
and police said that ultimately led to his Arrestschmann Huge

(06:22):
Schmann was taken to the We're Agami County Jail out
to Gamey out of Gamey County Jail for one kind
of stalking. He appeared in court on Wednesday, were a
judge set a ten thousand dollars bond damn. The judge
also ordered Hoopschmann to stay away from the victim and
dating apps, including Grinder. No more grinding for him. That's wild, man,

(06:45):
I've been so salty. Don't knock, just come in. It's
like the fucking where you used to just send pizzas
to people's house, except what happened to me? You did
it except for this as you're just sending a piece
of dick. You're fucking in your underwear fortnite and some
dude comes in wearing nothing but a beaver pelt. This
is Wisconsin, right, I think it was beelt. This was Wisconsin.

(07:09):
Some guy comes in just wearing a beaver pelt and
that's it. You said not to knock. I brought you
some doritos. Why are you e wrecked? Sir? Why is
your penis hard? I'm getting older and I'm having a
hard time dealing with it. Yeah, as I tell as

(07:32):
I tell my children, sometimes you just got to make
like a pickle and deal with it. Just the the
concept of getting older, just like you're feeling it. Like, well, which,
what's the well? I'll take you through a couple of things.
There's a few things in the sanctity of marriage. I
don't let my wife. I get kind of embarrassed to
show my wife my placid penis. Still, sure, that's embarrassing. Yeah,

(07:56):
nobody likes a song and I'll hide it. I'll scrunch
up and push my butt backwards and make it go inside.
I do the thing where she'll try to like pull
my shit down, and I'll go gory to spread your legs.
You go wide like a gobra. I go bowlegged and uh.
When we're getting ready for work in the morning, sometimes

(08:17):
I brush my teeth and I gag, and I think
that's really embarrassing my gag in front of her, because
sometimes she'd be like, I don't gag. Do I should
just say things like that to me? She just make
it really sexually driven, which it makes me uncomfortable because
it's early in the morning. I'm not aroused in the morning.
My body doesn't work like it's supposed to. Try to

(08:37):
wash the stink off you. Yeah, And a few mornings ago,
I was brushing my teeth and I felt it coming,
like I felt it coming. I clinched really hard to
stop it, and I ship myself like shut. I felt
like you could hear it factory resetting yourself. I was like,
I caught it, and it was just like all noe, dude.

(09:00):
And she stopped and I stopped. I just stopped brushing
my teeth, and she said, are you all right? And
I said, no, I've shipped myself. And then her answer
her what she always says when I said, when I

(09:20):
say I've shipped myself, she says, are you fucking serious?
Most of the time, I'm not serious. The last time,
but I had, I didn't even say yes or no.
I said, please get out, and I was getting ready
for work. I had to start all over again because
I'd hit, I'd ship myself, and there's just lots of

(09:41):
things that are happening to me as I'm getting older,
Like I get nosebleeds when I get boners now, which
I've heard a lot of older people go through. That
my poop is really really freaking hard. No matter what
I do or what I eat, my poop is just hard.
And then the most daunting of all these that affects
me the most is my ears are just getting deceptively hairy. Dude. Yeah,

(10:05):
I'm like a fucking monkey, Dude. I get these long
ear hairs and they just I'll go to bed and
my ears are our ball, like a baby wiener, and
I wake up and they're furdy. There's like long hairs
that they're like whiskers on a cat. Yeah, minor miner
right here. Yeah, this little dudead the tail that's the

(10:26):
nipplela the nipple of the ear the earula. My uh yeah,
my uvula is getting a lot of hair on it
and it's really discouraging. And I tell my barber, I'm like, hey,
clean up my uvula, please, because I'm getting a lot
of I'm getting a lot of hair. And he does
his best but just grows back.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I got tweezers right by the sink. Just for that
and my eye. I tweeze them and I shave them
my but I think it's it's pretty hereditary. My my brother,
who's about nine years older than me, we were at
the tailgate yesterday and I was admiring it was like
the dog from the Never Ending Story. I could see
his ear hair is just glistening, and I'm like, God,
you've got the fucking longest ear hairs. Dude. He got

(11:11):
me mad. He didn't talk to me for about forty minutes.
He said it affects him. Oh yeah, it really bothers him.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
He's you don't ever fucking see it. You don't ever
compliment nothing. You just to always point out shit that's
wrong with me. I'm like, you're you're almost fifty and
you fucking drink a case of beer night. Yeah you're
not doing well. Man, you're not looking out for yourself,
but you're not doing well. Yeah, you're just what a

(11:39):
fuck you talk about my goddamn ear hairs?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Jill Ow. Man, it is weird as you get like
as you get older, like these things that your dad had, Yeah,
your dad had and now yeah, it's like when does
that start happening? Right now? I mean yeah, but I
mean for me, you like stuff like that's happened for
a while now, but you're pushing forty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Once I started losing my hair, then I started gaining
hair in places I didn't want it sure, which is like,
come on, I could like get a hair transplant from
my back to my fucking head.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
We can do it down here in the basement. Yeah,
I've got a steady hand. Actually, we're gonna learn about
surgery in this episode. Okay, We're gonna learn about a
lot of full disclosure, full disclaimer. This is one of
the most graphic true crime stories we've told in this
episode or each podcast. So if you're not into that
type thing, maybe go back to The Confession's episode last week.

(12:35):
That was a fun one. But if you like tits,
if you're a tit man, you're a tit lady, then
this is the episode for you. Hey, I'm right here.
And with that being said, here's a quick break for
a few of our sponsors, which our sponsors wrote us
earlier today and they said, hey, AD revenue is insane

(12:56):
right now, is it cool if we add in an
AD in the front in the beginning. Yes, I don't
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I said, please I have another, please double it and
give it to us. Yeah, yeah, triple it. Fuck it.

(13:16):
Let's just do a whole ad episode Christmas. Would that
be some ship? You're sitting there here like, fuck you
Newbrahio episode. I couldn't do that to the people. Two
hours of ads?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Oh alright?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Please?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
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Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's just that over and over again. Could that's sucked up.
I'm a man of the people. I just can't do it.
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(14:00):
John Wayne Gacy, Chicago in the early nineteen eighties was
already home to a ghost. That ghost was J. W.
G Old John Wayne Gacy, the murderous clown who left
the suburbs just ravished with trauma his crimes.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't want to say something. I'm sorry, I'm gonna
interrupt here. We're going to a really, really good time
for true crime TV shows, like with the Big the
Big Hitters. Yeah, like we had the fucking Evan Peters playing, Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
What's his nuts? Uh? I just want to take some pictures. Uh,
gay guy ate the dicks. Dix, you're a killer. Goddamn it.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I can't think his name. Oh and then now we
have fucking now we have the new one, The Monster.
Have you watched that yet?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
With the ed Gen one, I can't. My wife maybe
turn it off. When Aunt Becky's Bush was on, it's
just wild. So that was a big old bush. Brother
I started.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I started that last night and it kept me up
too late watching it, dude, And it's I'd know all
about ed Green, but it's just it's cool to truth
be told.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Really dive into it. Charlie Huntum makes me feel uncomfortable.
It's the it's the voice. It is but it's good.
But yeah, yeah, he does well, but it makes me
feel uncomfortable watching it, right.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I like the way that it's told, like I feel
like it's like it because it bounces you around from
like story to story and ties it all together like
the Hitchcock stuff, and it's it's pretty fucking cool. I
feel like we're in a really good time and people
think that that not gaycy, but people think that ed
Gan is really fucked up, which he is.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
He's fucked up, dude.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
But dude, I'm saying I've told someone that I was
just telling U our friend Megan about this last week.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
We're talk about how fucked up he is. I was like,
Albert Fish, he was fucked up. Gaysey's right there, He's there.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
They're pretty fucking Albertfish is fucking wild. I think he's
the craziest one. Yeah, but he was kind of before
it was. There's a whole lot of documentation missed missing
from the things that he did.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Whereas Gasey Gaysey killed the guesses are he killed over
forty forty young young boys, young men. I didn't know.
I didn't know the whole Nazi like the situation with him,
like how he was really into Why why you're getting

(16:37):
all the calls? Why is this happening right now? My
all my phone ships going to my uh, going to
our recording thing, going right to our thing. This is
a fucking conspiracy. But it's cool.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Anybody that's like, if you're really into true crime, like
right now is the time to fucking yeah, we're have
great shows.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Kileen Warner's one just come out to it, did, Yeah,
that's around with her. That's a crazy bitch. She looks
like a lot of fun. Dude. If I was a
trucker back in those days, I would have picked her
up and let her kill me. I'm married, or it's
a wild, wild woman. And but John Wayne Gacy specifically,

(17:17):
he was the murderous clown who left the suburbs inundated
with trauma. His crimes were exposed just a few years later,
but the aftershocks that community can still feel the presence
of John Wayne Gayzy. Mothers wouldn't let their kids out
at night. Police were publicly embarrassed and shamed morale and

(17:40):
law enforcement was fucking terrible because the investigation was handled
so poorly. But a little did the city know that
another horror was brewing. And I don't mean the fun
kind of horror. I mean like horror like Halloween. I
went trigger treating and I got drunk. Did you good

(18:00):
for you might put up half a fifth of Buffalo
Trace and a Stanley cup a can of Cherry Coke zero,
and I drink all of it nice and I hung
out with some new friends that I met, and then
casually the girls left right, and then the guy casually
hits me with all My father in law's a fucking

(18:22):
world renowned magician and he lives next door. Shut up.
I love magic. This guy we watched videos love magic man.
His name is Skildeiny. He performs in Vegas, Disney, over
the world man. So now I'm pushing to get lessons.

(18:42):
I'm in contact. I'm gonna be trying to get some lessons.
That's pretty cool. And then next time you see me,
I'm gonna be pulling fucking pool balls out of my ass.
I'm gonna eat a bird in front of you, dude,
I love magic. You're gonna sit down. You're gonna say, oh,
Nick doesn't have a bird I'm pulling out and I'm
gonna eat it in front of you. You and you're
just gonna say, WHOA did you learn this already? Yeah, Gildini.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
A little protege a man I am. You're gonna be
killing it. You can have your own segment at our
live shows. I can't wait pulling rabbits out of people's
asses a double revenue. I'm gonna be the opener and
the main don't come out with a mask here the
mask magician.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Uh, but this is where we start to learn about
Robin get get get Gekt. That's a tough one. G
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it's it's it's gonna be a gekt. It's gicked, say Gecko.
I geted last night all over that fucking place, dude,
right before bed, I was your pruss, your teeth and

(19:47):
you get And the day before that, I gagged. I
fucking gagged and she said I don't even gag like that. Well, bitch,
you've had a lot more practice than me. That's because
you're a lady. I'm not. Yeah, you don't have tonsils
or I don't know whatever makes you gag. You're not gag.

(20:10):
Mind over matter, Like, why do some people gag and
some people don't. That's a good question. Let me get
Brigzilla back on the show. I think they all gag
with him. Yeah, as poor women. Robin Gheggt He was
born November thirtieth, Happy birthday, Very soon nineteen fifty three.

(20:31):
He looked like the kind of guy whom I try
to sell you a broken stereo in a grocery store,
parking lot. Oh yeah, a lot of those around here.
He had no criminal record growing up, no juvenile drama,
nothing that screen future Dick had cult Leader, but what
he did have was an obsession, a sick, warped fixation

(20:55):
on women's titties breasts describe. Describe a sick, warped to
fixation because as a man, I do love me some titties. Okay,
well that's what And I got this far into the
research and I said, oh my god, it's just about us.
I said, you know that, like when you bullying people

(21:17):
and they're like, are you point a finger or someone else?
You got four more point bag. That's what I was
thinking about when I was doing this research. I'm trying
to beat somebody up for being a titty lover. I'm
trying to serve justice. Even women, even straight women, love titties.
It's just a thing, man, It's they're great friends. Later

(21:38):
said that he would talk about breasts the way college
guys talk about sports, lovingly, competitively and obsessively, and not
in the you know, the haja boobies kind of way.
He would actually hire prostitutes and he would they would
allow him to stab their breast with needles, pins and knives.

(21:59):
Oh my god. And he was fetishing violent mutilation before
he even owned a car. Good lord. He would find
these prostitutes and he would pay them essentially the most
common form of what he was performing. They would allow
him to stab their breast with needles, and he loved
to lay there and suckle the tit and watch watch

(22:24):
and stab the tit with the needle and watch the
needle go in and out. That's just disrespectful, that's weird, right. Yeah.
So that's when when I read that, I said, Okay,
I'm not like this guy. Yeah, I want to take
the titty to church, right. I want to take it
out for dinner, right. I want to take it to
the movies and ship and come home and fight it. Yeah,
I want to. I want to suck on that thing

(22:44):
so fucking hard that it's sagging a couple more inches
after I'm done with it. We're not trying to break
the titty, no, I just want to break it in. Yeah,
break it in. Uh. I don't know how many times
a week my wife yells music, get off my tits.
There's no reason for you to be tell or you

(23:06):
gotta deal with it. You're never You can't be in
a bad mood when there's a tit in your face.
It's impossible. What my favorite thing to do is, I'll
grab her tit, and as as I'm grabbing her tit,
I'll stream get the fuck off me, just like a
you know, reverse psychology type stuff. Yeah, okay, never works.

(23:33):
You're putting more titty on You got to fuck off me.
You're trying to act frigid. Get your titties off me.
God damn it. And here's the kicker. Gekt. He worked
for a contractor who regularly subcontracted under gentleman by the
name of John Wayne Gacy. So that means yes, the

(23:55):
the star of this episode, Robin Ghekt and John Wayne
Gacy were in fact on job sites together, and people
have argued for decades about whether Gek learned something from
Gay Gaysey or if this was just an insane coincidence.
I tend to gravitate towards this was a coincidence because

(24:17):
John Wayne Gacy was fucking young boys. This man enjoyed titties. Hey,
have you ever wanted a fuck little kids? No, but
I've wanted a stabbotech. We're a rat, but that shared
that short that shared orbit became a bit of a legend.
Though Gek's own wife said he kept a locked attic
room he wouldn't let her enter. Oh that's a red flag.

(24:40):
That's a huge red flag. What's in there?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Porn?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's it. That's apparently what passed for quirky in their household. Huh.
And to complete the Avengers death squad here, Gek pulled
in three more members for his club. There was Edward Spritzer.
He was an impressionable, shy guy desperate for approval. Uh.
Andrew Cocareeles. He was quiet, cold eyes, somewhere between confused

(25:09):
and capable of anything. And then Thomas Cocareeles, which was
Andrew's brother, often coerced but never innocent. I will say
not to spoil too much here. Thomas Cocareles is no
longer in prison. He's done some interviews. His mother was

(25:31):
a strong abuser of tailanall. He is a fucking he
is a fucking fruit ROLLERU buddy, Is it like visually
apparent or is it just when he talks you could
tell both? Okay, he's in and out? Do you just
he's he has no idea, what planet he's on. He's
just all over the place. He's not like a waterhead

(25:52):
or anything. He's a head. Okay, yeah, But these guys
they worship Gek like he was some kind of fucking
spiritual van. He was just some type of higher being
and they were obsessed with the man. And this was
not a random hookup of psychos. It was a leader

(26:12):
follower dynamic. Think about Charles Manson, but less charismatic and
with a smaller brain. Damn. The crew started hanging out
in Get's attic. Were candles, pornography, razor blades, the ritual
set up, which we'll get to that later. But then mysteriously,

(26:35):
women in the neighborhood started disappearing, one by one, by one,
by one, by many a lot. The attic became the
crew's church. Though it was a sex dungeon, it was
a Satanic workshop and a weird clubhouse for the four
of them. Witnesses later described it like a makeshift ritual chamber.
There were black drapes tacked to the walls, wax drippings,

(26:58):
occult drawings that looked like they were cop from the
scribbles of a horny sixth grader, and according to some
inmate rumors there was a Bible with breast drawn all
over Jesus. That's fucking wild. You fuck get your titties
on the father. Holy shit, dude, Lord, there's some titties. Father.

(27:21):
Forgive me because I'm about to sin John three point
sixteen for God so love titties that he gave his
only begotten son with tits that he may not perish,
but he may suckle and feed the masses with his giant.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I used to draw dicks on everybody in my school books,
So is that really much different?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And I think I've told the story before, but one
of our best friends, Amanda, She's it was their senior year.
It was the day before turning in our civics books,
and I grabbed her civics book and just like fucking hatefully,
like mark her upside down, holding it like a Knanderthal toddler.

(28:09):
I just drew a dick in the inside of it,
like like right in the inside, like first page, and
oh yeah, cover page dick. Hell yeah, open the cover.
You get dick. Giant fucking purple dick.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
We had to turn our books in. And this teacher,
he was the only one I ever saw that would
open up the books and look through all the pages.
And she opened up a man's book and he's like,
not this, these are brand new books.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Not this.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Did she did not even bat a fucking eye. She said,
Nick drew it. She didn't. I don't know. I don't
know they got there. Which teacher was this mister Miller.
Miller he already had a heart on for me anyways,
but she's like Nick, he just stared at me. He's like,
you're a clown. You're a clown. There's nothing I can

(29:05):
do about it. You're a freaking clown man. Get it together.
I always liked him, Get it together. He didn't like
me because the first day of school I walked up
to him and he got a picture of him and
a lady on his desk, and it's like, oh, that's
so always sweety. You have a picture you and your
momm He said, that's my wife. Just shit all over him.

(29:26):
That woman is quite a bit older than you. Moving on,
that's my wife, our buddy. Get when he wasn't drawing
tits on Jesus, he had rules. And that's how you
know somebody as a cult leaders when they make rules
for the for the group of people that are all
hanging out with one another. He had rules. There were

(29:49):
no shoes on the altar. That's understandable. Speak softly when cutting,
like yourself. We'll get there, okay. Always think the master afterward.
Who was the master? Well, it depends on who you ask.
Some say a vague demon Gekt invented. Others claim he

(30:11):
whispered to Satan himself and he meant every word of it.
One prison snitch swore that Gek believe women's breastissues contained
sexual energy that could be harvested like demonic gatorade. Boy,
you know what's hardness, the power of the time. I'm

(30:32):
not gonna say he's wrong, but he might be onto
something like they take Darth Vader's mask off in Star
Wars and he's like a booby. I've drink. I've pretended

(30:53):
there's gatorade a tip before. Yeah. Sometimes I don't even pretend.
I just go to town. I try to get stuff
out of there, even I know there's not nothing's gonna
come out. You know, Gatorade's been dropping dropping some some
hints on social media about something big they've got coming,
and I think they're bringing back glass bottles. I think
that's what they're doing. I didn't even know that was

(31:13):
a thing. Oh dude, you've never had, no, truly never
experienced ecstasy until you have drank fucking four ingredient gatorade
out of a glass bottle. I I didn't know that
was even a thing. Sugar water, salt, and some goddamn
red KNYE forty, A little bit of Gator, A little
bit of Gator. I gave me extra Gator there, you

(31:37):
don't mind. I mean, anything in a glass bottle is
definitely going to be better. Yeah you don't say yeah,
like fucking you who in a glass bottle? The fuked
me up.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Soby's orange orange carrot, so orange. Soby was the fucking
shit that little lizard man I rolled with. That dude
he was He had no idea what he had no
Now I've really I felt it incomplete ever since he
left my life.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
We were at uh where were we? We were somewhere recently.
There was like a vehicle shop next door. Oh is
the uh? We were at waffle house and there's like
a muffler thing next door. Yeah, right inside I could
see the soda machine. It was a fruitopia old school
Baby's classic Utopia. Yeah, those were good. We got we

(32:28):
got a old soda machine at our shop. It doesn't
work anymore. But the very last choice is Budweiser. I
had four Budweisers over the weekend. Dude, dense, dense. Uh. Meanwhile,
the Coca Rales brothers had shaky, very shaky pass to

(32:50):
say the least. Andrew had petty theft charges and a
reputation for cruelty once decapitating a bird with pliers at school.
Oh my god, you know the proto prototype Psycho starter pack.
Thomas the uh crayon eater of the two, Quieter, shorter,
and easier to push. Kind of guy who would follow
if someone just held the knife. Edward Spritzer, he was

(33:14):
a blank sheet of paper. He just wanted someone to
like him, just wanted to fit in. He just want
to have friends. He does fucking cool hang out with
guys that cut off titties. Unfortunately, the person who liked
him the most was a titty obsessed attic warlock. Attic Warlocks.
This could have been us.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, how did these someone like this get people to
worship them and then we can't even get friends?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Bro, It's just you and I. It if if if
you were approached by a cult leader and he just said, hey,
what's your what's your name child? And you said I'm
Robert Dogg and he's like, Robert dog do you like breasts?
And you're like, depends is a dog breast? Uh? Cat breast,
human breast? Male breasts, female breast? And he's like, you
said it, it's female breasts. Yeah, he'd say, well, as

(34:05):
a matter of fact, I'd like to talk turkey with
you because I like turkey breasts sandwiches from Subway. Those
are good. But I like women's breasts too, So please
tell me about your cult. Yeah, I want more information
on the titty cult. If you if if we built
a gang just like a titty gang, you wouldn't even

(34:26):
want to know the freaking biolaws. You would just want
to be in it. That's true. Yeah, but these guys
were doing a lot of really really bad stuff. But
these Neanderthals that were in the group, these fucking knuckle
dragon chocolate dice, they had no idea what they were doing.
They just follow him blindly. But he was a very charismatic.
He was a coal leader. That's exactly like Charles Manson.

(34:48):
That guy never killed anybody. But that motherfucker killed everybody.
Isn't that wild? Yeah, that's wizy. And that's the same
way that this worked. I feel like we you know,
we get the we got the A, B and D.
Those guys, all those guys run hard with us. All balls,
no dick, bab We're not never gonna make anybody kill anybody,
but not today anyways. Yeah, but there may be a

(35:08):
time when we fucking all a favor dowling that sleeper
cell code word. Look, baby, if you're really all balls
and no dick, drop trou and prove it. They get
everybody together for the first meeting. We just make everyone
show how big their balls are, right man, I feel
like it. Yeah, it's like initiation, right, you can't come

(35:29):
in with the big fucking hog. Proove have to be
in the club. Prove it, mister abn D. But together
these fellows, they started to escalate and escalate recklessly. I
will say, they begin abducting women. That list of women
that they they had a pattern here. These women were
sex workers. They were strippers, mostly fun women, women walking

(35:52):
home from shifts and lonely bus stops, low priority victims
in a city burned out on serial killer horror stories.
The crew would drive up in a van. They would
grab the woman, drag her inside, gag her, and take
her to either Get's attic or a secluded location. And
it became mechanical, methodical, They had a system. It worked.

(36:16):
They become they became efficient. They could carry out these
abductions in literally seconds, leaving no evidence behind, leaving uh
no witnesses they were there was nothing left behind by
these guys. Their ceremony, there's the ritualistic ceremony that that

(36:37):
is kind of the the epicenter of of all of
the god awful ship that happens with this group. They
put candles lit in a triangle. Okay, there was a
box removed. I'm sorry, it was a just a wooden box.
The women's breasts were removed with surgical precision, and the

(37:01):
breast would be placed into the box as an offering.
Rumors say that they would oftentimes eat part parts of
the breast. Okay, the victims the first known victim and
this isn't even though this isn't even.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I do want to go out on a limb here,
and this I may be the only one thinking this,
but I do want to say that I feel the
most attractive part of a titty is the fact that
it's attached to a female.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Oh, speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So I don't know if I don't know if I
would still feel the same about a titty if it
was it was detached of the body, like if it
was on a it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Was just like fucking like folded up flesh with a
fucking nipple. I've been to the zoo and like, orangutang's
got fat titties due, but I've never walked by an
orangutang been like, excuse me, monkeys. Oh damn baby, excuse
me monkey lady? Yeah, ah, you mind sharing? Yeah, I don't.

(38:08):
I don't know if I could find if I would
want to partake on that. I think he's just like women. Yeah, sure,
but there's some pretty guys out there. I saw a
video of John Stamo's drumming earlier today. Yeah, so I'm
the same one that probably saw that was aggressively attractive
to me. He's a good drummer. He is a good drummer.
He's a good musician.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Man, he's a fucking, greasy, Greek, fucking love maker. Yeah,
do you met You know how much fucking poon.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That dude's ran through too much. He's like Charlie Sheen
lovel Yeah, Aids, what a great him? And fucking uh
Rob Low. Yeah, that's a beautiful dude. Dude, what a
what a fucking gorgeous man. He's like almost sixty. Yeah,
he's beautiful. He's beautiful. He's a little creepy anything. I
think it was fucking around with an underage girl. Yeah, yeah, buddy,

(38:59):
but still handsome fellas good looking, good looking man. The
first known victim was Linda Sutton, aged twenty six. She
was abducted on June twenty third, nineteen eighty one. She
was tortured for hours when her body was found days
later in a hotel parking lot, badly decomposed. Her left
breast had been amputated. Time police shrugged, maybe it was
a wild animal. Chicago was busy. DNA wasn't really on

(39:22):
the menu yet. The case fell into a very deep,
dark corner of the investigative unit there the Chicago p D.
Next was a Jane Doe, real name to this day
still unknown. She was found near a garbage pile behind
a factory. Her chest again was mutilated, bruising around the
wrists from restraints, throat bruises shaped like hands. She was

(39:45):
never identified, and somewhere somewhere someone still probably wonders why
their sister didn't come home in nineteen eighty one. That sucks.
That sucks really fucking bad. It's fucking awful. Sue Pennington,
twenty one years old. She van vanished after leaving work.
She was found posed, breast removed, police whispered got another one,

(40:08):
but it was unofficial. Nobody used the term serial killer
because they didn't want to say gaycy two point zero
out loud. Yeah. By October of nineteen eighty one, the
Chicago Ripper crew was escalating. Rose Beck Davis, thirty years old,
was murdered on her way to work. Her body showed
cuts and patterns, geometric shapes carved into her skin. The

(40:30):
more the crew did it, the faster and more efficient
they got. Sex Workers were one of the number one
women on the list in terms of who they were abducting.
Their absences, they weren't reported because that kind of they
fell into that lifestyle, and that just kind of your

(40:51):
family is used to you being gone for a long
periods of time. There was runaways that nobody followed up
on transients who muddied the investigative a pool. One victim's
body showed defensive wounds on our forearms so deep that
forensic examiners described them as butchered shields. Between nineteen eighty
one and May of nineteen eighty two, at least eighteen

(41:15):
women disappeared, not all were found, and we still don't
know how many they killed. You ask a Chicago old
time cop, they say it's north of thirty women were
murdered by this crew that they call the Chicago Ripper Crew.
And the worst part the police didn't connect these murders

(41:35):
until late into the spree. Too many dead women, too
many neighborhoods, overwork detectives, budget constraints, you name it. They
had a fucking excuse for it. But the I know
we've shared some graphic content up to this point, but
this is kind of where it gets horrifically really bad.

(41:58):
The ritual itself went like this. The women were tied down,
their breasts were removed surgically with an extremely sharp blade.
And these women were not under anesthesia. They were forcefully
tied down against their will, and they sadly felt all

(42:22):
of this. The wound was left open. The women were
encouraged to scream. The blood was caught on cloths or cups.
Get would stand at the altar, place the breast into
the wooden box, and he would masturbate. Gek would also

(42:44):
masturbate into the open wounds on the women's chest. God.
Oh yeah, man, that's it. That's how you get an infection.
Fucking this guy is still alive. To my understanding, what
a piece of shit. Yeah, and the other women, I'm sorry.
The other men watched in silence. Some confessions indicated that

(43:06):
they would burn the breast afterwards. Others said they buried
them in Ghek's yard. A secret police memo from nineteen
eighty two theorized some were kept for later use. Whatever
that use was, None were ever recovered. I think we
know what that use was. I'm pretty sure that this guy,
the fucking masturbating did not stop in the attict. That

(43:29):
means there are missing human body parts scattered and buried
all throughout Chicago, some random lawn. Some victims were blinded,
possibly so they couldn't identify faces. Others had their nipples
carved off separately. Ooh. Multiple victims had small puncture wounds

(43:51):
across their breasts before amputation. That's a sexual sadism signature.
Imagine being stabbed repeatedly with needles while tied down, knowing
that the big knife was in fact coming. One surviving
victim later described Gek whispering nonsense prayers. She called it

(44:11):
devil language. Could have been Latin, it could have been rambling,
It could have been horny cling on. Whatever it was,
do you speak horny cling on? I would love to, dude,
we have to fucking yeah, we have to carry a
tarp round with us. Ladies are just nuts. Yeah, we

(44:34):
definite wouldn't be able to do it on the on
the show, else we wouldn't stop getting so horny cling
on shit again. Whatever, But she went on to say,
whatever it was, the words right. She said that the

(44:59):
words that he was rambling, the devil's prayer, It almost
hurt worse and felt worse than the actual act of
her breast being removed. What are you trying to You're
trying to light some sage or falling over? Oh turned

(45:20):
him sideways, like here you go, fuck it, I mean smarter,
don't worry. I've got lots of years of experience fighting
this wall behind us. Oh Man, one surviving victim. I'm sorry.
The Cocaelis brothers held the victims down, spriteser, sometimes drove,

(45:40):
sometimes participated, but everything ended with Gek. He was the finale.
His wife, she claimed ignorance. She knew about the addict,
she ignored it. That's either denial or survival instinct. I'm
not sure. The FBI later said that Gek displayed traits
of narcissistic sexual state of ritual homicide, fixation, cultic power complex.

(46:06):
The Chicago Corner's office admittedly admitted privately that they had
never seen humane mutilation patterns like these before. It took
nearly a year for police to connect all these homicides.
The homicide units were unfortunately overwhelmed at the time. They
chalked to sum up to prostitution risk, gang violence, domestic homicides,

(46:31):
then thankfully game The survivor, Beverly Washington, twenty years all
the time she was abducted on May fifteenth of nineteen
eighty two. She was drugged, she was tortured, and both
breasts were surgically removed. The Chicago ripper crew dumped her
naked body near railroad tracks, but Beverly did not die.

(46:54):
Two joggers found her barely conscious. She could barely speak.
Detectives were shocked that she was still alive. They passed
her together like a human jigsaw puzzle. Surgeons said that
the work was too clean to be impulsive. The cuts
were practiced, they were smooth, almost hospital grade. When Beverly

(47:14):
woke up, she didn't have much, but she did know
that there's a red and black van men with average
forgettable faces.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Dude, That's why if I was killing somebody and they
said that my face is forgettable, that shit would sting.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
That's humiliating to a narcissist.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, it's He was extremely handsome, kind of bald, little chubby.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He had eyes, gray eyes that would just cut through
your soul. Nothing. These guys are just fucking forgettable. Yeah.
She also said one detail. She recalled one who called
himself Master Robin. Okay, that's fucking gay in terms of like,
in terms of male names, Robin. If you meet a

(48:02):
man named Robin, you immediately know, like, okay, I can
beat him up if I'm rob. Actually, Robert's birth certificate
says Robin. Hey, he goes, he goes by Robert. Well,
fucking idiot, am I right, that name sucks. If I

(48:22):
meet a guy named Robin, I immediately say to myself,
I can beat him up if I have Oh absolutely,
even if he's bigger, faster, and stronger than me, I
can beat him up. Yeah. And then master master Robin.
Oh man, that's what I do with the bang, Dude,
I'd be Robin. She also recalls a strong incense smell

(48:50):
that was one of the few times my dad ever
beat my ass growing up, was for burning an incense. Really,
he did not like hippies, so okay, I like him.
I think he smelled good. And then she also called
a wooden box, which is where her breast replaced after
the cut off her body. Please drew a composite sketch,
and it looked like a guy you'd see on a bus.

(49:10):
He was an NPC face. He had an average haircut.
That's just what he was. The kind you forget even
if he's sitting next to you. Detective Joseph, Salami, Salami,
love your meat, Brother, Salami, love your meat. I made

(49:32):
a sandwich over the weekend. I fired up the Blackstone.
I threw down pepperoni, salami, pizza, sauce, cheese, and some
banana peppers, grilled it and threw it on a sub bund. Yeah,
I might as well call my dumb ass Joseph Salami.
We're having Philly cheesetakes this week, and I'm so fucking excited.
I can't wait. Detective Joseph Salami, well, he got obsessed.

(49:56):
He connected mutilations from multiple cases in patterns. They did
start to emerge. Left breast always removed first, small stab wounds,
handlewax burns, and rope ligature bruising. He said, quote, we
have a ritual mutilation serial killer. His boss responded, we

(50:17):
don't need another Gacy headline. Sure, police canvassed the area
for red vans in weeks and weeks past. Finally they
stopped a van driven by one Edward Spritzer, one of
the members of the Chicago Ripper Crew. Suspicious, nervous, way

(50:40):
too helpful, and eager to comply with whatever the police
wanted him to do. Officers searched the van and they
found duct tape, rope, razor, sharp knives, and bloodstains. Well,
not enough for arrest, but enough for pressure. They tailed him.
They followed him too rowdy Robin Gek's house. Wow, they're

(51:05):
making it so fucking easy. I ain't Moscow. Tellmaster, well,
that is crazy, okay, and this is kind of you know,
this open and shut this case at this point. Yeah,
once the this traffic stop occurs, the police have pretty

(51:29):
much solved the riddle at this point. And this is why,
this is why I gotta be careful. You commit your crimes.
You can't.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
You can't be running around with a bunch of fucking waterheads.
You gotta you gotta pick your accomplices. You know that
they gotta have some sort of fucking sense about them
for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, warrants were obtained. Police raided the addict and they
found candles arranged in the triangle, bloodstains on carpet, a
wooden box with stains inside, pornography containing violent breast mutilation things.
Get the ring master of all of this. He was,

(52:07):
in fact and indeed a cult leader. He acted innocent,
he smiled, He offered the officers and detectives and his
home coffee. Then the Cocareles brothers cracked first, Andrew confessed.
Thomas backed it up. Although if you ask Thomas now,

(52:27):
he's been interviewed since he's been released from prison, Yes,
released from prison. Interesting, He says that all of the
details of the crime were given to him by the
police pretty much. He explains, like, oh, police said someone
got their titties cut off, and then I'm like, oh, wow,
so under tittes cut off, and they're like, took that

(52:49):
as he knew all of the details. He's reiterating what
he heard from the police. That's what he claims. He's
a filthy, fucking liar. He needs to die, absolutely absolutely.
Thomas backed it all up. Sprites are folded like a
lawn chair. They pointed the finger at Gekt. They said
he made us do it. He said it gave him power.
We had to give an offering clastic cult defense. Gekt

(53:13):
denied everything he admitted. He said, I stabbed prostitutes breast
for fun, but I never killed. Investigators said Ghek's charisma
was unsettling. He was polite, over the top, calm, like
someone describing a dinner recipe instead of a fucking violent
torture where people had their breast cut off. He is

(53:34):
the ones you got to worry about. In one recess
in court, a guard overheard Gekt whispering to Spritzer, quote,
don't forget the prayer. The trials began in nineteen eighty
two to nineteen eighty three. The defense claimed that this
was a satanic panic exaggeration. There were no physical breasts recovered,

(53:57):
victims were unreliable in the we're coerced by detectives. One
problem I'd be in a defense attorney has to be
one of the grimiest things.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I was just thinking that, like, regardless whether or not
you think that your client did these actions, just hearing
that they're suspected of these actions, you have to be
somewhat like, Okay, did this fucker really do this? Because
this guy's fucked up in the head.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
You know what I mean? Is there? I know your
job isn't really to Your job is to prove whether
or not you know, give the evidence of what you know,
and let them define if it's innocent or guilty. But
still it's like, how how can you do it with
stuff like this? You know, at the end of the day,
you're just trying to make a paycheck, and it is

(54:45):
unfortunately a service that has to be provided. Sure because
every once in a while someone is tried for crime
that they are not guilty of, absolutely absolutely, and without
legal representation. What kind of legal system would we have.
I get it, I get it why it's a it's
a mechanism of the American justice system. But laying your

(55:11):
head down to night knowing you got to defend people
like this, Yeah, gotta have some pretty thick skin man.
Gotta be able to shut that stuff out. And I'd
say a lot of it years going through the motions.
Uh huh hmm, okay, okay. And I would love to interview,
uh maybe a high profile defense attorney or just a
good one, a good defense attorney.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
At least at least someone that has it, like I'm
sure a lot of you know, defense attorneys have, you know,
the stereotypical easy, you know, everyday stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
You know, duy s and she like that. But I
want something like the case you will never forget Cochrane,
dig his dumb ass up. That dude got so many
fucking guilty people off. Here's a heavy foot tall wookie
hild Chewbacca defense. I would like to interview somebody like that.

(56:01):
That'd be really cool, right, Maybe try that, that would
be really cool. They charge us, they bill us. I
can't afford attorney's duty. I can't afford attorney. One prosecutor
held up autopsy photos so brutal that the jurors, many
of them, started to cry. In one, a victim's empty

(56:21):
chest cavey looked like a butcher shop accent. The the
experts that took the stand actually had the jurors gagging
and dry heaving at different parts of the trial. Fucking ki, yeah,
they all up there, brushing their teeth, pooping on the cells,
and gaging. Detectives found that Gek kept a small piece

(56:45):
of breast tissue wrapped in cloth inside a bible in
his closet. Presumably that's the Bible with Jesus tits inside
of it. Some records dispute this, others swear it was
a catalog, then buried in evidence storage. Inmates later reported
that Gek bragged about keeping trophies and jars. The Cocareles
brothers pled out to avoid death, and Spritzer got life

(57:07):
in prison. Get refused to confess. He refused to say
that he in fact did murder any of these women
when asked if he loved his attic church, and on trial,
he smiled and said no comment. And now here comes

(57:28):
one of the most unsettling parts of the whole entire story.
Robin Ghek, the mastermind, the ring leader of all of this.
He invoided completely avoided murder charges due to lack of
direct physical evidence. Convicted of attempted murder aggravated sexual assault.
He was sentenced to one hundred and twenty years in prison.

(57:49):
He will be eligible for parole in two thousand and
forty two, at the age of eighty nine. Wow, that's
not get out of prison. That's simply just eligible eligible
for pearl, which we presume will never ever happen. Yeah.
Prison staff call him the Wizard because he still holds
spiritual sway over weak inmates. Rumors say he leads Bible study.

(58:11):
Edward Spritzer. He was sentenced to life in prison. He
is now at Pontiac Correctional Center. Sources to say he's quiet,
keeps himself, likely traumatized by the brutality lane that he chose.
Andrew Cocareles he was executed by lethal injection in nineteen
eighty nine, the last man ever executed in the state

(58:32):
of Illinois. He received communion shortly before he was executed.
So take this bread as it's my body, Drink this
wine as it's my blood. Interesting. Thomas Cocareles. Yes. He
was released on parole in twenty nineteen. Due to sentencing technicalities,

(58:54):
he walked free. He lives in a supervised Christian halfway house.
Local residents protested. Please keep an eye on him. Nobody
trusts this fucking guy who held women down while their
breasts were cut off and mutilated. Retired detectives believe ten
plus victims remain unfound, buried shallowly, or dumped industrial sites.

(59:19):
Construction crews have allegedly unearthed suspicious bones, but without breasts removed,
meaning no firm link. Rumors say that Gek once buried
trophies under a shed he later tore down. Some think
those remains are still resting beneath a home depot parking
lot that's been erected there or I'm sorry, kind of

(59:39):
put over where the crime scene was. Then there's some
prison rumors. Gek refuses to shower if female guards are present.
It's shame or fetish, it's unknown, but the ring master,
the ring leader of all this, He refuses to take
a shower if female guards are present. He allegedly carved
a small triangle alter into a cell wall. Inmates report

(01:00:03):
he hoards magazines. With breast surgery, adds that's fucking I mean,
it's part for the course for him. But there's a
several guards that swear. Gek once asked for rubber gloves
in a shoe box, which was denied. On Halloween nineteen
ninety one, he was found with candle wax on his
bed sheets. He whispers prayers before stabbing his food with utensils,

(01:00:27):
pretending they're boobies. The fact that they let somebody like
this lead Bible study is wild to me. What I
found is this guy's probably in a i'd say at
this point probably, and I like got him close to
maximum security prison. Yeah, if you are doing something that
is not fucking off, like if you were doing something

(01:00:49):
that's not you being in the cell block just watching
life pass by, they usually encourage it. Like whether that's
church or working in the you know, the the industries,
like the industry shops there, they usually encourage things like
this for rehabilitation, which and I understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
But I mean it's it still feels it still feels
like it's someone that's you know, they could very easily take,
you know, people that are willing to learn about these
things and kind of get and doctrinate the week and
to think and you know exactly what he did originally
for these other you know, four gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
And one thing. I also found out the the church
was kind of this in prison. The church was kind
of like this off limit space for guards. So you
could go there and you could get a fucking hand
job in the pew, you could pass notes, you could

(01:01:50):
if you're in cell block one in the the head
blood that you need to meet with is in cell
block ten, and you guys aren't ever in the same space,
then you would use the church as a place to

(01:02:13):
me Yeah, essentially we would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I remember one time specifically, I can't remember what exactly was,
whether it was notes or even a pen or something.
They had, you know, clergy speaking things for them from
one cell.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
To It happened a lot. There was a dude named
Bozeman and the one I worked at, and he was
bringing in with a fucking going hard dude, cell phones, drugs,
you name it. He was doing it right. It's I mean,
it's always they always find somebody to do these things.
It's dirty work, buddy, Yeah, dirty dirty work. Spriteser reportedly
tried suicide in nineteen eighty four, he did fail. Unfortunately,

(01:02:50):
he can't do anything. Fuck her tried suicide. It wasn't
for me, No thanks. After that he became noticeably quieter.
He converted Christianity. I'm inmates thinking he's genuinely remorseful. Others
think he's terrified because Gekt supposedly cursed him during the trial.
Thomas Cocareles is watched constantly. He avoids eye contact. He's

(01:03:12):
just fucking weird. Church volunteers claim he was he has
found Jesus. The victim's family say the only thing he
should find is another decade behind bars. And that was
one of the most profound things when I was listening
to the interview, is let's see if I can find

(01:03:33):
this interview real quick. It's kind of chopped up or
else I would have played it, but it was I'd
like to hear this fucker. Oh he's this fucking goober.
Sounds like he is. He's way Oh, definitely not what
I was expecting. Can I It's only on two Thomas Cocrale,

(01:03:56):
we gotta find it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
It was like allegations that there was cannibalism that true.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
No, did you have any.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Knowledge of that happening?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Like I said, no, rape and torture, you have any
involvement in that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
No, man, look dad, you an't telling your dad guys
shout No, I had no participations, no knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I had no participations none of his crimes. None. None.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Cocorrales says he confessed to police because he was on
drugs and officers fed him information about the crimes. Prosecutors
said that you knew details that only someone would know
if they had been there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
No, what they told me, I repeated right back to him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
So you feel you were coerced? Yes, he even says
he has an alibim.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Definitely got. And the sad part is there's one point
in the the interview where they ask if he would
talk to the victim's family to apologize, and he's like, no,

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of course, just very unremorseful.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Had nothing to do with these crimes. Yes, and no,
he's not offering much of an apology to Laurie's family either.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I don't want to talk to him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
You don't want to talk to him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
There's nothing that you want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
To that family.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
No, I just want to say that I'm a fear
for him, a real sire for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
He doesn't want to see us, and thank god, I
don't want to see him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Mark can't imagine a path to redemption for the man
who confessed thirty six years ago on tape to murdering
his sister and is now taking it all back. Mark
is shackled to his worst nightmare for everyone in the
Chicago area.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
My biggest fear is that real fense. And you think
that's likely? Oh yeah, one hundred percent. The guy's heartless,
has no sult, but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Co Corrales says everyone must face his new reality.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
They want to see me back behind the bars, but
they got to deal with I'm out. He sounds wonderful,
doesn't Heah, he acquired a very full formed beer belly.
To he's a pudgy little bastard. These are just this
is the people like this crazy. Here's no point to

(01:06:35):
mean alive. Right, No, we can agree with that. Yeah,
this person contributes nothing to society. He's taken away a lot,
but he genuinely he contributes nothing. And uh, he's just
a leech. He's a fucking disgusting leech. Sure would be
a shame if he died. I can't say that I

(01:06:58):
feel sorry to lose the fucking wink asleep and at
least just like apologize or just say yeah, I would
love to, like just I would love to say I'm
sorry for what happened. No, no, no, he just doesn't
want to face what he what he's done, exactly what
it is. He's just a fucking disgusting narcissist that's unaccountable

(01:07:20):
for his actions. M Well, that concludes our story about
the Chicago Ripper crew. You know, all those lovely women.
I hate to hear the atrocities they went through that,
Like you can't even begin to think about something like

(01:07:42):
that or put yourself in that moment to be so
powerless and and just horrifically offended. Man, And I hate
that anyone ever has to Like, no one has to
go through this. I hate to peep. There are people
that have gone through things like this, and fucking thank

(01:08:04):
God for Beverly Washington and her will to stay alive.
If it wasn't for her, these guys would have never
been caught. Yeah, that's extremely true. Like her will to
live and just her will to like just fight and fight,
she stayed alive and that made the difference. It does suck.
They're not all dead, though, I hope they all die, Yeah,

(01:08:26):
they will. It just sucks that's lasted this long. Robin
Ghekt is still alive. Yeah, I just I was just
looking that up right now. Illnoy offenders, individuals and custody
last name Gekt, miserable. Fuck I've been get Damn what

(01:08:55):
an old, fucking old, creepy bastard is very much still alive.
Ooh man, I'm surprised he didn't fucking succumb to prison justice. Well,
there's still time for something like that. That's true. There
used to be a guy that listened to us on
a prison phone and gotland or something in Mark or

(01:09:15):
fucking someplace. Maybe if there's somebody listening in this prison,
you can just reach out via email on Burhio podcast
at gmail dot com. Tell your story five foot six
to twenty five out little bastard. Whip his fucking ass, dude, Yeah,
was he like fucking seventy? Now I would if I

(01:09:38):
got my chance to kill him, I'd put my hands
on his throat and not say, well, you have to
say for yourself and he and he wouldn't be able
to say anything because I'd be choking him, And I'd
say I love titties, but not like you. And I'd
kill him that his titties off, just to know that
there are kind titty lovers in the world. Yeah, and
his life was taking my one. Absolutely, his life was

(01:09:59):
taken by a titty respector. There you go. I'm a
titty inspector and I'm a titty respector that you like peta,
but for titties instead of animals. A titty inspector and
a titty respector. Wow. Okay, well that uh, interesting topic.

(01:10:21):
And I didn't know anything about shitty story.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
It's giving up for people that are respectful to titties,
that leave them on the chests, lactation consultants of their owners.
Yeah who may you know, borrow them every once in
a while, but always give them back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
When we had one of our kids, I can't remember,
the lactation consultant came in midday. I'm asleep, she's asleep,
the baby's in the nursery, and there's like a My
wife kept on waking up and she'd have to keep
pumping because her breast were getting gorged or but uh,

(01:11:02):
there was a cup, like a whole entire giant cup
of breast milk next to the next to the bed
that she just pumped and sat down. We were just
too fucking tired to do anything with it. We're exhausted.
We'd been up for like three and a half days.
And she came in. She's like, I am nanthy, I'm
the breath. I'm the fucking breath consulting. Lactation consulting, how

(01:11:23):
are you doing? And my wife's like, I just I
just want to sleep. I'm just I just need a rest. Yeah,
like leave me the alone. And then she's like, okay,
we are and she's like dad. I was like yeah,
She's like how are you? And I said, I'm fine.
She's she's good, she's good, she's lactating good, she's fine.
She just made this cup, like there's a giant cup

(01:11:45):
and she's like, oh, let's get that. What are you
gonna do with that? I said, we're just gonna throw
it away and she's like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
She just starts screaming like no, that is liquid gold.
And I was just like, oh my god, I've startled
this woman. Lesson learned, don't ever say you're gonna throw
away breast milk in front of a lactation consultant. Little
did she know years later, I would be on Craigslist

(01:12:19):
selling my wife's breast milk because she made so much
that I had no choice. I just had I just
heard this fucking woman's rant echoing through my head forever
that I couldn't just throw away this breast milk. I
sold it to another mother after I had A man
approached bent Craigslist about paying three hundred dollars an hour

(01:12:42):
to retrieve the milk himself. He wanted to suckle upon
my wife's teats. I want to defeat upon her bosom.
That's a true story. That's crazy, you know. I told
that story a while ago, but that's a still crazy. Yeah,

(01:13:03):
I like to wet. Nurse is a fucking nast. How
much money? Listen hear me out for just a second.
Times are tough. I have an idea. I need you
to partake in it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Instead of shooting your teddy milk and that's Stanley, how
about your shoot your teddy milk into Stanley's mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
To start with, It's gonna be me so it feels normal.
I'm gonna get you started. I'm gonna get it moving.
This is probably my far away one of our top
three most disrespectful episodes, but you know what, it comes
from a good place of love, absolutely, nourishment, caring. We
will protect the titty at all costs, absolutely with you,

(01:13:50):
with our dying breath, with our dying breath. And you're
dying breast. No, no, no, dying breasts are alive. Yeah,
they're alive. They're good. All right, thank you for tuning
into this episode of the Brohio podcast. Rumor on the
Street has it that there is an episode of story
Time with Rob that might be released later this week.
It will be I haven't confirmed with sources. I had

(01:14:11):
some computer issues last week, so I had to fucking
deal with that. Problems with Pewter. Yep, yep. I have
Pewter problems all the time. Feel sad about that. But yeah,
I'm about halfway through with it. So yeah, it's it's coming,
half fooling fuck. In the meantime, we're still working out
the details of Charlotte, looking at a possible early March

(01:14:32):
arrival there in Charlotte, North Carolina. Fucking party. Just trying
to secure a venue. So maybe if you are in
Charlotte and you have a venue, that alcohol is an option.
We would love that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Also Chicago, if you're in Chicago and you have an
idea for a venue. Give us a heads up on
that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
You can send those straight to us Brohio podcast at
gmail dot com. We'll answer those emmiately, but you guys
have a great week. I hope this episode finds you well,
and I hope that the time change doesn't have you
in a funk like it will have us Sonner rather
than like this is the Braha Podcast. Take character, titties.

(01:15:31):
I want to see you as