The Phantom Social Workers: The Child Snatchers Nobody Can Explain

Families across the world have reported chilling visits from so-called “social workers” who arrive without warning, flash fake credentials, and demand to see children—only to vanish without a trace. Were they traffickers, government agents, occult scouts, or something not human at all? Tonight, we open the case file on The Phantom Social Workers: The Child Snatchers Nobody Can Explain.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, I'm dicklas Nicholas, I'm robb Dog. Hey guys,
how's it going? This is our podcast about people trying
to steal your children. It's not us though. We don't
want them. We got enough our run. We don't want
your fucking kids kids. Nobody wants your kids. Your kids stink.
But there's other kids out there that people want. And
that's what this episode is about. Is Child Protective Service

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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
You put in an application, that's all. Indeed, upload your resume,
they'll hire you that you're a politician, right everybody can
get hired right now. Dude, there's jobs everywhere you want
to be. If you want to fucking steal kids, there's
jobs out there for it. I guess you know. Speaking
of jobs, it's my job to say thank you to

(01:03):
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(01:27):
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appreciate it. I'm the big puffy nipple killer. And I
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(01:47):
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(02:11):
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I started playing Cyberpunk, and uh, I designed my character
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you know, I was really fighting for to have a

(02:31):
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because if you're looking for somebody with nipples, you're barking
up the wrong tree, a little puffy nipple killer. Thank

(02:54):
you for uh, thanks for being here. We love all
of you, and you what you're missing out on. We
just had a zoom chat with our listeners about an hour.
It's fun. A little under an hour little pre show
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We play a game where if it's your first time
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and occupation just by looking at your face, and I'll

(03:16):
tell you what fish. We both hit one rob Dog
hit an age right on the button to night a
job occupation. Okay, yeah we both did. Okay, you hit both.
I hit a job, I hit a name, and I
hit a person's occupation with no no clues at all.
Just said he'll put it out there, and then the
person was like, I don't like this. Something's going on here. Yeah,

(03:41):
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(04:05):
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(04:28):
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(04:49):
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We had around seventy five probably more than that now
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(05:09):
guys are listening and you're getting some stuff off your chest.
I'd like to put some stuff on your mom's chest.
But you guys are getting some of things that are
really dragging you down. You're putting it out there and
it feels good to get it off your chest. Yeah,
and we get to tell your story. It's been great.
The uh, the Brohio Confessionals has been it's been a
hit for us. If you haven't listened to those episodes,

(05:31):
maybe you're you're a a Brohio purist.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Like I want the episode on Tuesday and I want
to do true crime for Goosutralians.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's a days it too. You're missing out, man. People
like that exist. Puffy nipple. Fuck, yeah, there are there are.
I don't know. They don't listen to anything else besides
the episode. Yeah, I don't that's that sucks. I doubt.
I don't know. I feel like I think our other
stuffs just as much, if not more fun. Oh yeah,
it's fun. It's man. The confessionals are great, it's awesome.

(06:02):
And the Battlefield of Love. So what's on tap for
the rest of September. We're gonna shoot for at least
two episodes a week. I briefly mentioned to Robert that
I think that we're gonna be able to get our
wives together and possibly do a Battlefield of Love episode
right and now, whether or not that goes as swimmingly
as we think, I don't know. But no better people

(06:26):
to solicit for advice than the women that's been fulating
us our entire lives. And they think they're funny. They do.
They think they're funnier than they think they're better than us.
So my thing is is I want to get them
on the show and prove to the world that they're
not as good as us. They're not as funny, they're
not as witty, that's true, and I want to rub
their faces in it. I'm gonna get as soon as

(06:47):
we hit record. I'm gonna say, tell me a fucking
joke put up on the spot, and if they don't
tell me the funniest joke it's ever been told, we're
going to execute them with their cocks called sexecute. We're
gonna sexecute it all right. We got a newspaper article

(07:10):
for you. Read it. Man, this was easy to find.
Woman duped by romance scammer posing it as an astronaut
in distress. We've all been there, elliehah. A Japanese octogenarian. Okay,
does that mean that's a woman with eight pussies? A

(07:31):
Japanese octagenarian was swindled out of thousands of dollars after
falling in love online with a self described astronaut who
sought her help to avert a spaceship crisis. Police said tuesday, Okay, man,
Chinese people are so I'm sorry, Japanese people are so dumb.
The hapless woman in Japan's Northern Acato Island met the

(07:54):
fraudster in July on social media. The person who's eighty
to eighty nine years old, So someone who's in there
eighty this bitch, dude? Yeah, this guy claimed to be
a male astronaut, a local police officer told the AFP,
describing the case as a romance scam. After some exchanges,
the scammer one day told her he was quote in

(08:14):
space on a spaceship right now, but was quote under
attack and in need of oxygen. The official said, this
is the laziest like I think I want to start
scamming old if it is this easiest to scam these people.
If it's this easy, I think I want to start
scamming old people. Oh you up us so high in

(08:38):
the sky you need help? You can, I breathe. The
scammer then urged her to pay pay him online to
help him buy oxygen, and successfully hoodwinked, go do gonna go.

(09:00):
There's an oxygen store right around the galaxy right just
fucking blowing into an envelope and just mailing it. What
a dumb bitch he would make there out of sixty
seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
The woman lives alone and started developing feelings for him
as their online communication progressed. Oh shit, if a person
you met on social media ever demanded cash from you,
please be suspicious of the possibility of scam. The police said,
Oxygen's free on Earth, you fucking idiot. You don't need
to spend money on it. Come back down here. Elderly

(09:40):
people can be cajuled into using ATMs to get non
existent refunds of their insurance premiums. Or pensions. Romance scammers
drained billions of dollars from people seeking love, and their
tactics have evolved in sinister ways. More than sixty four
thousand Americans were taken over to were taken for over
one billion dollars in romance scams in twenty I ain't

(10:00):
three alone double the five hundred million dollars from four
years prior. Uh. About half of people who are using
dating sites say they've come across somebody who tried to
scam them, According to Representative Brittany Peterson, a Colorado Democrat, Uh,
no matter how advanced you think your ability to understand
what's out there, they're gonna deceive so many people. We

(10:23):
really have to get in front of this man and
just with AI and shit, man, you get a little
Snapchat filter. He could have called her ass from space.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Plus braus and I wanted to say fuck you for
not giving me four million yen to save my air supply.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's something, dude. It really is lazy work man. And
that's why we got pictures of people's me malls on
our wall back to because we love people's me malls.
But never do that to your me mall, dude, I
feel so bad for just that this generation, like that,
that generation with how I'm starting to get confused by

(11:11):
AI stuff. Sometimes I see Ship, I'm just like, there's
no way, I just assume everything's fake. At this point,
you kind of have to. And then finally you start
to let your guard down a little bit. You're like, oh, man,
I really want a golden doodle puppy. And then they
eat its fucking head like cake and it turns into
butter and their brain falls out and they kick into
a storm drain and I'm like, I was hook lion sinker.

(11:33):
I was. I was ready to buy this puppy. I
would have sent this puppy a check for a thousand dollars.
I saw them the other day, and fuck it got me.
I was like, oh Ship, Yeah, fucking ham dog save
people from the fire. That's that's back when AI meant something. Dude,
I saw that picture saved on my phone. You just
put a lay a slice of ham on a ham

(11:53):
dog's face and you can confuse everybody one like eagles
one prayer, yeah, man, and people are just it's gonna
keep getting worse, like the voice, and I would encourage
you if you have elderly people in your life. Just
talk to them and say watch over the look. If
I ever call you and need help, whatever it is, like,

(12:15):
ask me a question that only I would know the
answer to. For me, if if my mom knows if
she's worried about, you know, me calling her and asking
her for money and and uh she knows, I'll be like, Mom,
do I have a big dick or a little dick?
And she's gonna be like, you got a tiny dick?
And then the confirmation is I will say I have

(12:39):
a little dick, and I'll confirm it, and then she'll know, like, Okay,
he needs a thousand dollars or he needs X, y Z,
whatever he needs. Whatever you need, don't call us because
we're stupid and we can't help you. But we would
love to see you at the live show in Dallas.
It's gonna be a great time. All So, if you

(13:00):
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here's a break for our sponsors. Those are great, and
they're great. Are here's something buzzing? I hear in the headphones.

(13:43):
Where's your phone at over here? It's from It's that.
Oh no, I don't fucking drive me crazy, dude. This
place is a fucking prison. I'll tell you. I don't know.
Can you hear a buzzin? I can kind of hear
it a little bit in my left ear. Hmmm, I'm

(14:10):
ana pauses for a second. Okay, all right. We found
it as a cloudlifter. I'm an electrician. They try and
sell you this twenty thousand dollars pre amp for this microphone.
It's already twenty thousand dollars piece of shit they get you. Okay.
For this episode, I had no expectations when I found

(14:32):
this topic. I said, Wow, this looks cool, and then
I started to consume all of the research and go
through everything, and this is one of the craziest topics
we will ever cover. It's such a overlooked thing that

(14:54):
is still actively going on, and I have probably four
or five news audio clips of this shit's still going
on right now, and it's been going on for nearly
forty years. Let's give you the cold opening. It's late,

(15:15):
your home, the kids are asleep upstairs, and then a
knock hits the front door, sharp, deliberate. You open it
and there's a woman with a clipboard, dressed like she's
just left a boardroom. Child Protective Services, she says, voice flat.
She says, we've got to report about your children. She

(15:35):
knows their names, she knows their ages, maybe even their allergies.
There's a man standing beside her, behind her, silent eyes
locked on you. You let them in, and because you're
because they're official, right, they're government officials. They poke around,
they check the kids rooms, maybe run a hand over
your daughter's stuffed animals. Then they leave. You call CPS

(15:58):
the next day, your Child Protective Services. Your gut is twisting,
you're nervous, and they say we didn't send anyone. There's
no record of that visit. Your blood goes cold. Who
was in your house. What did they want and why
do you feel like they're still watching you? Oh? This

(16:19):
is not just an urban legend. Okay, I know a
lot of the topics. So what I what I wanted today?
I went and saw The Conjuring, the New The New
Conjuring movie, which I really enjoyed. And I was looking
for a topic with just like a violent paranormal aspect
to it, just some type of demonic infestation, some type

(16:40):
of just jaw dropping story just to make you be like, oh, fuck, man,
this is scary. And what I found, for lack of
a better term, I found something scarier than that. Yeah,
I found something that is that is this is real.
This is real. Whereas the hauntings kind of the the

(17:04):
nasty ghost infestations, the demonic entities, that stuff kind of
feels like it's rents repeat redo, rents, repeat redo. It's
all the same thing over and over and over again.
The family moves in, you start hearing weird noises, you
hear the crashing stuff flying around the house, the walls
are bleeding. Someone fuck the dog. It's just over and
over and over and over. It's the same thing over
and over, man. And that's what's so I hate that

(17:28):
for people that are involved in, you know, shit like
that is while they sorry, people that actually have paranormal issues,
I guess going on, they're overlooked because there's hard to

(17:50):
buy into they really got something going on. You're like, okay, okay,
all right, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and then then they
sometimes they won't get the help they need. But this
is something completely different. This is truly haunting, This is
truly terrifying. But this is a real This is a
real fucking boogeyman right here. Robert, You're one of the
most relaxed dudes that I've ever You are the most

(18:13):
relaxed guy I've ever met in my life. I'm pretty
chill man you. Oh my wife's calling me. She knows
I'm doing this ship, but she's it's all good. Yeah,
like I was saying you. But in terms of like
messing with you or not messing with you, like don't
fuck with your kids, like don't fuck don't fuck with

(18:35):
my kids. That's my job. And whenever, whenever someone tries
to fuck with your kids, it brings out a part
of you that wouldn't that someone wouldn't normally necessarily see
on a on a regular day, and that's what this
is about. You may be someone you're like I just

(18:58):
like podcasts. I just like I just like hanging out,
listen to the bros. But this is a real like,
this is a real darkness that is out there. You
may not have kids, but one day you might. But ultimately,
I think we all have some type of child interaction
in their lives, whether you have a niece or a nephew,
or maybe you're one of these cps people did steal

(19:20):
a kid. You have a lot, you have a child
in your life, or you know somebody who has children,
have small children. You're talking to us, you're here with us,
so you do know people with small children. Although my
kids are all reaching that point where they all just
think all the time, they're not really kind of crossing
that finish line now where they're not really cute and cuddly,
they kind of fucking smell you get. You still got

(19:41):
a little a couple of them that are a little
younger than I think you're. Your youngest is a little
couple of years younger than mine, but she starts to
at she acts like the old older ones. Now, Yeah,
and I don't like it, right, It's it sucks. They're
getting older. It's crazy. And then this this, like I said,
this is not just an urban legend. Families across the
United Kingdom, the United States, and even South Africa have

(20:03):
reported encounters with what became known as phantom social workers
or phantom child protective service workers, mysterious strangers impersonating child
welfare officials who appear suddenly, interrogate the families and then
vanish without a trace. Sometimes children disappear soon after, sometimes

(20:25):
nothing happens, and sometimes the kid themselves report seeing things
that could not have been human. For decades, families across
the United Kingdom, the United States, and beyond have reported
these chilling encounters. The mysterious strangers became known as the
phantom social workers. Now, like I said, they kind of

(20:46):
just show up, They carry convincing identification, and then they
disappear without a trace. They often ask very disturbing questions
and sometimes attempt to separate children from their parents on
the spot. The encounters leave behind, like a lot of

(21:07):
people say, it's like a sense of violation. There's some
terror involved, but the realization that no one is going
to investigate further. Police have claimed that they brush this
off they view the stories as unsubstantiated. Social service agencies
claim no responsibility. The families are left in the dark.

(21:30):
They have nothing but the memory of the stranger's eyes.
They're strange cadences and the fear that the knock could
return at any time. I'm talking about people knocking on
your door. Documented cases of this, substantiated claims, people knocking
on your door, a government agency saying I'm I'm rod

(21:57):
with Adult or Child Protective Services Montgomery. You know we
live in Montgomery County. Here, Montgomery County Child Protected Services.
We had an anonymous complaint about a little Amelia saying
that she's not fed and she sleeps in a shitty bed.
And it's almost like a comes from a place of
pride to be like, oh, really, well, I want you

(22:18):
coming here and see what this child lives like. I
want you to come and see like I fucking work,
I've got food in the cabinets, I keep this place clean.
You know. It's almost like a sense of pride. I
know that's how I would feel if like Protective Services
came here. I'm like, fucking come in here and look
at all that shit. We got a fucking meta quest over there. Man,

(22:40):
they got games and shit. Come in here and take
a look. We got a dog, not a single turt
in those beds. Look at this dog. Look how nice
this dog is. Look at the tricks it can do.
You see the tricks that if you the dog can
do this, imagine what the kids can do. Right, fucking
dog catch a frisbee? Yeah, you guys, sit down and
watch my kids fucking dance now, like I gotta do

(23:03):
this dumb shit. Come on, we're going to gymnastics. Yeah,
take a look at this shit. Look what she could do.
But this is that's the thing, is real life instances
of people coming to your door saying, I'm so and
so with Child Protective Services, I would like to I
have an anonymous complaint. I need to check on your child.
Then they do the checking. Everything checks out. Whatever they

(23:25):
come in, they pick, they pick things up, they look around,
they patch your child on the head, they rub their face,
tell them everything's okay, and then they leave. And then
you call protective services and you say what the fuck
is going on? Yeah? And then Protective Services says we
have no case, Like, there's nothing associated with your name,
your address. None of our employees are out there first
of all, the whole situation would already pissed me off,

(23:47):
oh beyond beyond words, and then that would piss me
off even more, and I'd be like, what the fuck
just happened? All of my friends? I shouldn't and I
shouldn't say this like I've got a lot of friends
that have gone I know people who've had child protective
services called on them. Every single time. It has been
another jealous parent for some reasour little Timmy beat them

(24:10):
out on the football team. Uh, little little Jonie has
taken the going to prom with the boy that that
their their kid wanted to go with. That's honestly the
reasons that people will make up, they'll make up ship
to make child protective services come to your house typically
aw some petty bullshit. Thank god, nothing like that's ever

(24:32):
happened to me. My children are I'll tell you they.
I don't think they could have it any better. I
think my kids would fucking laugh if they are you
being mystery. They'd be like, uh no.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
M.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, like you said, dude, it would piss me off.
But I would be like, fucking come on in here
then check it out, dude, whatever. Knowing what I know now, No,
you're not coming in. I don't know who you are.
You're about four inches away. If you get punched the
dick and you know, bring a fucking warrnan or get

(25:09):
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Oh what door warned?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
The phenomenon is more than just a rumor, though. In
the late nineteen eighties when this all started, the wave
of reports in Scotland and Northern England grew so intense
that newspapers across the country started to cover these incidents
in detail. Investigations were launched, police knocked on doors themselves,
warning parents not to admit anyone into their homes without

(25:35):
verifying credentials. Politicians even debated the issue briefly in Parliament.
It was not treated as a fairy tale or an
urban panic. It was treated as a genuine threat at
the time. Yet, despite the paper trails of investigations and
the public warnings, no one was ever arrested, no organized
group was ever uncovered. No single explanation has ever merged

(26:00):
or what has been behind all of these incidents of
people proclaiming to be child protective services knocking on doors
and getting access to these people's children. Interesting In nineteen
ninety did I skip apart. No, sometimes I just want

(26:22):
to make sure that, okay, I was reading along with
you where you're at. In nineteen ninety, the UK police
launched Operation Childcare to investigate. They looked at two one
hundred and fifty cases across twenty three police forces. Only
two of these were legit DPS visits. Let me say

(26:45):
that again. They reviewed two hundred and fifty cases, only
two of which were documented visits by CPS. A few
others were suspicious but led nowhere. The lack of answers
to something more organized, maybe too big to touch. We
know all about that here in America. Some say it's tied.

(27:07):
At the time, it was tied to the Satanic panic
with people paranoid about cults. Others think it's trafficking or uh,
child trafficking or Oregon harvesting, scouting kids for the black market,
whatever it is, or whatever it was. The silence around
it is deafening. And that's the the scary part of
all of this is a I will probably venture to

(27:30):
say that ninety five percent of people listening to this episode,
this is the first time that you're hearing about this.
And dude, my wife stresses out about everything when it
comes to the kids. Sometimes she'll wake me up in
the middle of the night and go check go check
their windows first of all, which they live on the

(27:51):
second like they live up in the air, like a
treehouse up in the air unless somebody's you know. And
she kind of like projected this so much on the
kids that Paisley start to have a hard time every night.
Oh no. And I'd be like, look, I got glass
break alarms, all these windows. I take your to the
through the alarm system, cameras everywhere. You're Sweetie's you're good,

(28:13):
You're set up. And She's just like, I'm not buying it.
Don't leave me in here by myself. And it was
there was a week of just like pure terror on her.
She was just afraid's crazy, afraid to be in a room,
afraid of She was having these nightmares of people kicking
her windows in.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
They're abducting the kids for this themselves. They need the
baby's bone so they can ground them up. That goes
into the adrenal crumb shots for the Reptilian elite. Let
me tell you right now, folks, I'm not saying this.
I'm not trying to be a hero a folk hero.
I know what's really going on, and I've been trying

(28:53):
to warn people. I've been trying to warn the masses
for many years now. They're trying to turn the freaking
frogs day.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
This is and for out there, as Alex Jones is,
this is something I've never heard him touch on. This
is something I've never heard anybody touch on. But as
we moved through this episode, I have some local news
agencies that had reported on these things of people that
had fucking humans come to their door and say I'm

(29:23):
a CPS. Let me talk to them, and then it's not.
They're not who they say they are. So let's let's
look at the cases that started this nightmare. The earliest
documented case was in Scotland in nineteen eighty three. Newspapers
reported mothers being visited by plain clothes officials claiming to
be child welfare workers. These strangers often carried clipboards, asked

(29:47):
unsettling questions, and often insisted on examining the bedrooms of
young children. In one case, a woman in Edinburgh described
two women and a man showing up unannounced. They told
her they had received an anonymous complaint about her daughter
and demanded to see where she slept. When the mother refused,

(30:08):
they became agitated. She asked to see their identification more closely.
At that moment, they turned and walked away. By the
time she rounded the corner after them, they were gone.
Police confirmed that no welfare officers had been dispatched to
that address. Flash forward seven years to nineteen ninety. This

(30:29):
is in Sheffield, England. A single mom by the name
of Annie Wiley. She got a knock at her door
around seven pm at night. Her twenty month old son
was asleep after hospital stay for asthma. The visitor was
a woman, late twenties, light blue coat, small scar by
her eye. She says that she's a health visitor, has

(30:52):
a file with the kid's medical history, stuff that only
the hospital should know. Annie lets her in, but something
seemed off. The woman asks questions like does he bruise easily?
Does he have any rashes? There's a guy in the
car outside, just watching, and he pushes back and asks
for identification. The woman mumbles an excuse and then bolts

(31:13):
from the house and he calls the health service. Nobody
sent a visitor to her home. Police search for weeks, nothing,
no leads, no suspects, the car's plates don't even exist.
That is ooh, that makes your skin crawl.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Me.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
When I was reading that story.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
I was just.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Fuck man, because you're already so vulnerable in that moment
because you're Asthma is a scary thing for people that
have never dealt with it. For for your kid to
have asthma or croup or just anything like any type
of breathing obstruction, when you're going through that as a
first time parent, that is one of the scariest things
you can go through as a parent. I know there's

(31:59):
a lot of stuff that there's a lot of families
out there dealing with a lot of really bad health
issues with their children, and I'm not trying to take
anything away from them, but those breathing obstructions, when you're
going through that as a first time parent, that stuff's
a scary shit.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. And to think like, okay, well they're now out
here to check on us again. In all actuality, this
is someone maybe scoping you out, scoping your child out
to see if they're a viable option for fucking orgon
harvesting or child trafficking. Crazy And we're gonna get into

(32:36):
it more or later. Of why what the visit it?
What the visit could have meant? Okay, because it's there's
some wild shit man. In nineteen ninety four, in Glasgow,
a family gets a visit from two women claiming to
be CPS. They're checking on a three year old girl
after an anonymous tip. They know the kid's name, her

(32:57):
daycare and even her favorite toy. They inspect her bedroom,
they touch her stuffed animals, then they leave. The mom
calls CPS. The next day no record of the visit.
Police find no trace. The same year, in London, a
dad reports a man and a woman in suits who
show up at nine p m. Nine o'clock at night.

(33:21):
You're laying the family down for bed at nine o'clock
at night, man, Yeah, they always show up right after dinner. Yeah,
Saying they're investigating a case of neglect. They asked to
see his five year old son's arms and legs, claiming
it's for health checks. Dad lets them in but gets
very suspicious when they dodge the questions about their office.

(33:43):
They asked so many questions that the dad tipped them
off that he was aware that they were not who
they said they were. They leave in a hurry. He
reaches out to the Child Protective services. They say that
they scent no one. They can firm that there was
no investigative officer sent out to the home for any reason.

(34:07):
The most frightening cases, though, involve physical attempts to seize
the children. One mother and Sheffield recounted a man who
attempted to pull her toddler out of her arms, claiming
he had authority to remove the child immediately. She screamed,
The neighbors rushed out and then the man fled.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
When police recalled, they admitted no child protection officers had
been assigned to her street. The intruder had been an
impost but of what kind No one could really say.
And it's not just the UK. In two thousand and three,
near Canberra, Australia, a mom got a visit from a
man and a woman in business attire. They said that

(34:49):
they're from a child welfare agency and they need to
check her two children, who were aged four and six.
They know the children's medical histories down to a recent
ear infection. Wow, that's something even like not even very detail. Yeah, yeah,
something very it's a very minor detail. They spend fifteen
minutes in the house looking at the kid's beds, asking

(35:11):
about their sleep patterns. Mom calls the agency after they leave,
no such visit scheduled. Cops describe her as hysterical when
they interview her, saying, the man's eyes yeah. What what
the woman said about the man visiting is the man's
eyes didn't look right. What that means to me? This

(35:34):
can be spun in a couple different ways. If you know,
there's one part of me it's like, Okay, I want
to be Aliens and they're trying to fucking round up
children for the mothership. Diddle some kids in the mothership.
So that tells me that these these people were probably

(35:55):
under the influence of some type of drug, absolutely that
or they were probably part of some organized crime I
don't know, call a team, and they were likely the
scapegoat for something they didn't want to be a part of.
They likely probably were sleep deprived. It just tells you

(36:18):
of just like these disgusting just reading between the lines,
it tells you that, like the other disgusting details, without
giving you the disgusting details, it was probably someone doped
up that hadn't slept in days. It was doing something
for fear of their own life. That's what I was
gonna say, made to do something, and that there was

(36:39):
a higher power involved, whether it was the person that
was harvesting the children, that one of their organs, just
a middleman and honestly the people that were making them
do it or probably not the people in charge. There's
a lot of different levels to that, and you probably
need to probably peel back another three to four levels

(37:01):
to even get to the person who was semi in
charge of the whole organizer. Yeah, fast forward to twenty
twenty five. Look at my watch real quick. Yep, that's today.
That's now, that's now, that's right now. Crazy, this shit

(37:22):
is still happening. I'm gonna turn on my USB here
soon I do start to play this audio. You guys
can hear it. This is an ex post from February.
It talks about a rural Ohio mom who got a
visit from CPS worker at her trailer. It was a

(37:44):
woman in her thirties. No car knew that the daughter
had asthma and knew the medicine by name that the
daughter had been prescribed for her asthma. She came to
the door and asked to check the little girl's vital signs. Okay.
The mom refused, and the woman walked into the woods.
No vehicle, nothing the fuck. Okay, this woman my fucking skinwalker.

(38:12):
That's what I don't I don't think it's something paranormal. No,
not at all. I do think it's but we I mean,
we will talk about that. I personally, I don't believe
it's something paranormal. I think it's I'm gonna drop you
off on this fucking road and you walk until you
find a house. Kid, come back with a kid, you
find a kid, Yeah, exactly. And another another post from

(38:37):
Texas from March of this year, just a few months ago,
says a guy in a suit knocked on the front
door at eleven o'clock at night asking about a seven
year old boy. He knew the child's school schedule, and
he left when the dad called nine to one one
without a trace there. And these are not one offs.

(38:58):
They're a pattern. And nobody. Nobody is talking about this
in the mainstream media, and people are reporting this shit.
It's happening. There's posts about it. I have Thank god,
I've never dealt with something like this. Does fuck me?
I love making friends. I'd be like, come on, in.

(39:20):
I'm really kind of closed off when it comes to
that ship I got. I got a sixth sense unlike
and I can usually niff that stuff out. Yeah, something
doesn't seem right. You gotta fucking yeah, you gotta push forward.
And without being educated on the on the law. My
advice to all of you, if somebody comes to your

(39:42):
door and says I'm with Child Protective Services, you say,
get butt fucked. Don't let them in until they come
back with a police officer and a warrant exactly. But
don't you say, wait right here, let me get let
me get the authorities on the phone, and we'll go
from there. Yeah, wait right here, let me get my
gun exactly. That's what you say. Yeah, I'm gonna kill you.

(40:03):
You can't do that. You can't just shoot somebody for knocking.
That's one of my face. I love this on Facebook.
I'm in these Facebook groups like, uh uh, someone broke
into my car and then someone's like.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh fuck it, put a bullet er.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Goddamn brain. I'm just like, furst off, pal. Can't shoot
somebody in the head for breaking into your car? Yeah. Uh.
Second of all, you're gonna go to prison after you
do that I don't want anybody breaking into my car
unless I don't know, maybe you try to stop them
and you felt like your life is in peril, then
you could shoot him. Then you definitely can. But you

(40:39):
just can't be like walk up behind somebody getting change
out of your dashboard and be like Jesus, I say hello,
I can't do that, can't do it. Here is a
This is from about five years ago. This is is

(41:00):
a newspaper. I'm sorry. This is a television news segment
of a woman, a younger woman, she looks like she's
probably twenty five years old, who had a young son
and it was a run in with impostor Child Protective
Services Holmes.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
I just really haven't wanted to let him go since
I picked him up.

Speaker 9 (41:26):
Jesse McCombs has good reason to hold her four year
old a little tighter. After she said two impostors showed
up to her home. A woman followed by a man.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
Said that she was with CPS and that she was
there about my son's injuries and that they were to
take him into protective custody.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Jesse said she was an initial Okay, this one's a
little different.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
They told her that they were there to take him
into custody. Yeah, we're here to take your child right
off the fucking rip. Which that doesn't Yeah, right right
off the get go, that doesn't happen. But for maybe
a young mo, I'm like this, it's not I'm not
saying she's stupid, but people are stronger in tandems, I

(42:06):
do believe, but like its inexperience as a young naive mom. Yeah,
you're like, oh my god, this is the government is
here and they tell me that they want my child, Well,
then they may. You you worry about especially if if
you say she is a first time mom. You worry
if a kid gets injured like doing something like, oh
my god, are they going to are they going to
see me as being negligent? And then you then you
want to prove, like you want to do everything you

(42:26):
can do within your power to prove the government that
you didn't do anything bad to your kid. Right, So,
so deep down you have you have that thought in
your mind like Okay, well maybe this could be true. Yeah.
And I will say women a lot more than women
get like that mama bear thing as soon as they
have a child. So I don't I don't want to
undertell them man because.

Speaker 8 (42:46):
He was there about my friend's injuries and that they
were to take them into protective custody.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Jesse said she was initially confused.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
And thought she for sure had the wrong house until
she told me his name and birthday.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
She said both were dressed professionally when they showed up
here Monday around seven thirty am near State Avenue in
one hundred and twentieth Street, and said the woman did
all the talking.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
I asked her, you know, can you show me some identification?
Can you show me this order that you supposedly have.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
She refused to show me that a red flag.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
People are potentially trying to just snatch my kid, and
so I started panicking.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
She told us she didn't fake dialed nine one one.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
She said we'll come back later, and then they left
in a hurry down the stairs.

Speaker 9 (43:22):
Jesse said she made a report with Marysville Police, who
told Kyro seventh they're now investigating Chuck. Honestly, she said
she doesn't know who would fake being CPS workers.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
I dronaline just pretty much took over. I wanted to
get my son somewhere safe.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Sorry or why they chose her son.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
It's a lot bigger than just this one time. It's
like a constant thing that's going to be in the.

Speaker 10 (43:42):
Back of your head.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Sucks, man. At least at least she was, you know, cool,
calm and composed and was able to call bullshit as
much as possible. Yeah, you heard her start to crack
there at the end. This was from CBS News. This
was Marysville, Washington. Her name was jeff See mccollms. This
was from k I R O t V. This is

(44:05):
a this is real life, man, Yeah, and this stuff
is happening. This is just a few years ago. This
is another incident. This is from Indy where they actually
I'll let them, yeah, let them sell those.

Speaker 11 (44:25):
Now to developing story one that we sent us breaking
news on our RTV.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Six app this afternoon.

Speaker 11 (44:30):
Prosecutors have now formally charged a woman with murdering an
Anderson mother, all part of a plot to steal her
newborn child.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
She accomplished that trick.

Speaker 11 (44:39):
By posing as a Department of Child Services worker. RTV
six is Derek Thomas has that story.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Samantha Fleming lived at the apartment at the top of
the steps. The fake Department of Child Services worker told
her that she was making a surprise visit.

Speaker 13 (44:55):
I was standing on right there. I was like, I
ain't never heard of no surprise inspection, home inspection or
something like that. But I was just walking in because
I was coming home from work, and I wasn't paying
no attention. That's all I heard.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
The fake DCS worker has been identified as thirty six
year old Geraldine Jones. She assures a murder, kidnapping, and
criminal confinement.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
You know, I think it's particularly concerning or disturbing that
the suspect, you know, visited the residents and lured them
away under the guise of being an employee with a
state agency that is, you know, has a mission to
care for children and to protect children.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Official DCS workers have state issued ID cards, and if
they were removing a child, they would be accompanied by
law enforcement. It is troubling that there have been multiple
DCS worker imposters since twenty ten.

Speaker 13 (45:50):
Sadly, it's been I think three cases I've heard since
I've been here that someone has impersonated a DCS caseworker and.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Have went to has gone to a family's home. It's
an alarming situation.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
At some point police will travel to Texas to question
the suspect. She is confined to a medical facility there
and Anderson Derek Thomas r TV six and.

Speaker 11 (46:16):
As Derek Menha and Jones checked herself into that medical
facility in Texas and she cannot leave that facility.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh damn man, that was You heard the the director
of communications for the organization say that's a third time
this happened that he can remember. They're I mean, and
I'll be the first to say it. Sometimes we may

(46:43):
talk about things that's shrouded around the truth, like sometimes
it can be misconstrued, like is this real? Is this
urban legend? This is one of those things phantom social workers,
phantom child protect to service workers. That sounds like an
urban legend. These are real, documented cases of people posing

(47:08):
as CPS workers and in some instance is killing the
mother to take the child. I think it's what makes
us that much more scarier is because it's so plausible,
in the fact that you know it's actually happen, like
it's happening, to the fact that it's that you know,
more plausible, makes it that much scarier. It's terrifying. And
the British press they ran stories about what became known

(47:30):
as the phantom social worker pantic journalists press local councils
for explanations, but officials offered little more than warnings for
families to be vigilant. That's all you get to, just
be vigilant. Police issued statements advising parents to always ask
for proper identification, yet many of the impostors carried documents
that look completely legitimate. A mother in Manchester recalled that

(47:55):
the ID cards she was shown had her counsel's logo
and even a name in reference number when she phoned
the When she phoned the office later that day, the
phone number on the badge was fake. I'm sorry, the
number was fake, the reference number, the name did not exist,
and the card she had seen was never recovered. Some

(48:18):
officers admitted off the record that they subject they suspected
an organized network of traffickers and child abusers, but they
lacked the evidence to pursue it. Families were told to
lock their doors, to call the police if anyone suspicious appeared,
and to trust that authorities were doing everything that they could.

(48:42):
And dude, it's being like the first line of defense
for your family. It's not good enough to just rely
on the police to protect you. I'm sorry, you gotta
be you got to be protective of the ones that
are under your roof, and part of part of being

(49:05):
who I am as a father, I'm a very protective person.
I know I often sometimes maybe overshare with you guys
on on some topics and some things. But that's kind
of like the just connection we've developed with our listeners
over the years. But one of the things I take
most serious is just how protective I am of my
children and they know that. I feel like, you know,

(49:29):
as a dad, you that's just it's just natural, right,
I mean, yeah, for sure, you want to You want
to protect your little ones, family, your household, at your
fucking places or your people. And this is another recent
incident from Las Vegas.

Speaker 14 (49:46):
It's just confusing to me, like somebody had to give
her that information. There's no way she would have been
able to get it by herself.

Speaker 11 (49:51):
Well, where did a CPS impostor or get the information
police say she used on fake documents in an attempt
to kidnap an.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Well, the answer might actually surprise you. In thirteen, Action
News reporter Brian this is.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
A really good lesson. We just talked about oversharing. This
is a really good lesson to be learned.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Here allahand spoke to the baby's parents tonight, and this
story may have you taking a closer look at your
social media accounts.

Speaker 14 (50:19):
At like one, I was like, hey, where are you?
You know I've been waiting on you. If you're not
interested to let me know, and she was like, well,
I'm at the bank.

Speaker 15 (50:26):
Cassandra Dene says she was supposed to meet Joanna Boyd
Monday afternoon to sell her baby items, but as Dean
was sending that message and waiting for a response, Metro
says their officers were with Boyd, who was planning to
kidnap Dean's three week old daughter, posing as a CPS
worker with forged documents. Police later showing up to tell
the family of the plan.

Speaker 16 (50:48):
When they said that, I mean my heart, hit my
big toe and jump back up.

Speaker 15 (50:51):
Metro says Boyd called officers to the area near Craig
and Las Vegas Boulevard, presenting a fake court order and
other documents to remove the child from the home. Officers
had concerns about those documents, as well as other inconsistencies,
like the fact, they say Boyd did not have the
proper idea and was not driving a County vehicle like
CPS workers routinely do.

Speaker 9 (51:12):
It's really nerve wracking to find to think that this
woman was able to get a hold of court documents
and take our information and put her on it.

Speaker 15 (51:19):
The Dean say officers told them the documents contained information
about them, even though their only conversations were about the
baby items.

Speaker 14 (51:27):
She had her birthdays, my daughter's birthday, She had her
apartment number, and everything like down to the tee.

Speaker 15 (51:32):
The couple said they keep their Facebook pages very private,
and Cassandra never gave out her apartment number. While it's
unclear where all of the information could have come from,
thirteen Action News was able to show the couple a
surprising place where Cassandra's birthday was posted publicly.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Right there on the atogram.

Speaker 14 (51:49):
Yep, she must have been really stocking well.

Speaker 15 (51:51):
The family is still trying to figure out where Boyd
may have found the other information. They are planning to
be in court Tuesday, when Boyd is expected to make
her next appearance. Proban Callahan thirteen Action New.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Looks like that one woman comedian that was any McIntyre shirt. Yeh, damn,
I forget her name of Chelsea something or other. Yeah,
she looks exactly like her. She did, but that was
another dude. I mean, this girl had the document like
she had court documents made up, and she was giving
it to the police before she even Yes, it's it's crazy.

(52:28):
These people are going through they're you know, they're checking
the tea or they're, yeah, crossing the t's and dotting
the eyes whenever they're doing this shit and kind of
the walk on the crazier side for a second in
some neighborhood. In some neighborhood's rumors took on more of
a supernatural edge. Parents started talking about visitors who seemed
to appear from nowhere, who walked into the could of sacks,

(52:49):
only to vanish in plain sight. Some describe the figures
as eerily calm, their faces blank, their eyes strangely dark.
A few even claimed that photographs taking during the encounters
failed to capture the visitors clearly, leaving behind blurred shapes
or distorted shadows. Now, whether these were exaggerations born from

(53:09):
fear or something stranger, they kind of just worsened everybody's
fears in regards to these phantom social workers. By the
mid nineteen nineties, the phenomenon had grown beyond the borders
of Scotland and England. Their reports from the United States
the Midwest, parents in Ohio, Illinois, and Pennsylvania. They told

(53:30):
eerily similar stories strangers arriving in unmarked vehicles, claiming to
be from child protective services and demanding access to children.
Like their British counterparts, though they often carried forge identification.
When challenged aggressively, they would retreat, sometimes vanishing down streets
that led nowhere. South Africa also saw some incidents. There

(53:54):
was Families in Johannesburg's and Cape Cape Town described individuals
showing up with documents, insisting on home inspections, and then disappearing.
Some South African parents tied the phenomenon directly to trafficking,
believing that the impostors were part of larger criminal syndicates
and to think of it in more of an uglier perspective.

(54:19):
Some people say like these were recon missions that they
maybe it's hard to almost like they were scouting these
people out for other nefarious activit not not not there

(54:40):
to take the children that night, not like they're to
pound on your door, all give me your kid tonight.
There were more is like a scouting mission to see
what they could get away with, how far they could
do They have this like the Sticky Bandits and home alone.
They got their their cop he's a copy first. Yeah,
that's definitely the same premise. In the nineteen nineties the UK,

(55:05):
they were deep in the satanic panic. Everyone thought cults
were snatching kids for rituals. Some researchers, like Martin Cannon
and his book The Child Stealers, argued that these imposters
were scouts for trafficking rings. They'd pose the cps to
get accessed. Yeah, to get accessed. Test how easily the
parents would hand over the kids and mark vulnerable families

(55:29):
five between between five one hundred thousand and eight hundred thousand.
That's a wide margin. There. Kids have gone missing in
the United States since the year twenty twenty. I believe
it's closer to a million. Now, that's insane. Then there's
the second theory that these children are being scouted for

(55:52):
Oregon harvesting. Black market organs are a billion dollar industry. Kidneys, livers, hearts,
even corneas. Children are prime targets because their organs are healthy, small,
and in demand. Some nineteen nineties cases, these social workers
asked weirdly specific questions like whether a child had had

(56:15):
surgery recently, if they had any scars. In a two
thousand and one essex case, a mom said the impostor
checked her daughter's arms for vain health. The fuck that
is not CPS protocol. I don't care where the fuck
you live at unless the child is suspected of doing heroin,

(56:36):
which only one of my kids does heroin. Let me
check your kid's cornea. Dude, that's fucking crazy. That's wild,
and I just don't kind of to go back. Almost
a week ago, there was a meeting call on tape

(56:57):
between our own video I said on tape, got I'm
show me. There was a meeting call on video between
the President of China A z or Z and y
Xi and on Xi I think z. It was between
him and uh Vlabner Putin from Russia. There was they
overheard them talking about organ transplants and how humans are

(57:21):
living closer to one hundred and fifty years now because
they're utilizing the technology of just kind of like it's
like an oil change. They're swapping your organs out when
they start to break down. Yeah, so they can give you,
like give your whole body organ transplant. You can add
X y z amount of years to your life. I
mean you could technically live. I mean as long as

(57:43):
you're keep sucking swapping you out. Yeah, man, just keep
on giving you new gizzard every time you get too sick. Dude.
That's that's crazy, and it's crazy. Human customization is all.
That's what it is, and it's going. It's happening right now.
And I promised to fucking God that they don't just
have a fleet of children with healthy buttholes and live

(58:06):
liver lizards. Liver lizards. Yeah, they like they have to
get these people in these organs from someplace. Maybe that's
what happened to us. Who fucking who chopped us up
and put a little kids pecker on our adult body.
We gotta swamp it out with something. I'm pissed off
about that, dude. That's what happened.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
There's some guy out there walking around. There's a gigantic
dick that was supposed to be yours. Fucking greedy dude,
he could have let me keep half that dick.

Speaker 16 (58:36):
We're gonna make these guys mildly attractive, semi funny, and
give them tiny peckers.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
It's balance if I could just get like a half
a dick.

Speaker 16 (58:46):
Dude, one that doesn't try to hide inside my body
when I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I sent you a picture of it. But somebody in
my work put a bumper sticker on my car. That's great, man,
This is a rain O bubber sticker, and it said
follow me to the gay bar. And there was like
men smiling and waving at me. On the way home
from work, I got a long commute. I drive an hour, yeah,
one way, and there was some guys like slowing down
and waving and ship. I was like, usually, I that's what, like,

(59:17):
that's my nose picking time on my drive home. That's
when I cleaned my nose out. But I couldn't fucking
pick my nose because people get waving at me and
slowing down and ship. That's my nose picking time. No, no,
goddamn privacy, right. And then I started playing with the
dog and come to find out there's a bumper sticker

(59:38):
on my I see him a well in the yard
playing with the pepper, and I look at my car
and there's a bumper sticker that says follow me to
the gay bar. Big letters and a rainbow man. Luckily
nobody followed you. I don't know or did they. They
might saw me get out of my car and just
like no, dude, Yeah he's fucking around. He to get lucky.
Oh my mama. There's also, like you said, the paranormal aspects.

(01:00:03):
Some witnesses they described these impostors is off, like they
weren't human. In that two thousand and three Australia case,
the mom said the man's eyes were too still, almost
like he did not blink. A nineteen ninety six Yorkshire
report had a dad swear that the woman's hands were freezing,
like she'd already been dead for hours. Oh. The author

(01:00:26):
that we referenced earlier. His book floats the idea of
non human entities, whether demons, aliens, or something else, mimicking
humans to get close to children. Maybe they're feeding on
fear or marking souls. It sounds a little too crazy
to me. But when you've got no arrests, no traces,
and witnesses saying things like their faces were wrong. Yeah, okay,

(01:00:50):
you start to wonder like, okay, what the fuck were
these things? Yeah, something really weird going on in mainstream media.
They don't touch on it. A few UK articles in
the nineties, nineteen ninety Guardian piece calling it mass hysteria,
and a documentary, The Cook Report tying it to satanic panic.
Then nothing, no follow up, Stone investigations jumping twenty twenty five.

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This shit's still happening. There was a recent post from
a Michigan rural Michigan just in April of this year,
a family got a visit from a woman claiming to
be a social worker. She knew their eight year old's
recent surgery details, and she asked to check his recovery progress.
The dad refused. She left, walking into a field with

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no car in sight. Fucking scary, dude, that's terrifying. Oh.
I was sort of follower and be like, hey, I'm
gonna kill you now. Yeah, sorry, this is a good
place to kill you. Out in this field. It's way
more It's like, way more scarier.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
If they just walk into the fucking woods or into
a field, that's weird. What was that? Yeah, And I'm
I'm not done you. I got another news piece here,
This is recent. This one has ring front door ring video.
Hell yeah, and the woman trying to capture the child.

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She probably could have did whatever to either one of us. Robert,
She's okay, yeah, it's one of them. Yep.

Speaker 17 (01:02:25):
Moment caught on camera creeping out one local family and
now leading to criminal charges. A Norwood family says this
woman tried to lure their four year old son away
from home. WCPO nine news anchor Bretpaganski shows us the
evidence now being used against.

Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
Her in court. He's like, Mommy, mommy, there's some lady
here that wants to talk to you.

Speaker 12 (01:02:46):
This is surveillance video from Jamie and Tim Spradland's homes.
You see their four year old son running inside the
house to get his mom.

Speaker 10 (01:02:55):
She shows me a back so you can't you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Can't hear it that well, but the woman is out front.
If you're on the YouTube stream, you can see it.
We got it up on the screen. The little boy
is playing in front of the house on the sidewalk
on a big wheel, and then a woman walks up
and starts rubbing him on the head pretty much tell
him go get your mommy. She run. The little boy
runs inside and gets the mom. The mom comes outside.

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Then clear's day. Right on the ring doorbell camera, the
woman says, I'm so and so from CPS. I want
to talk to you about your child.

Speaker 12 (01:03:29):
Inside the house to get his mom.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
She shows me a badge that says her name.

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
This was Saturday afternoon near Ralston Ross, Norwood.

Speaker 10 (01:03:40):
She proceeds to rottle off my children's name.

Speaker 12 (01:03:45):
Then she asked Jamie if she can come in.

Speaker 10 (01:03:47):
Said, I have to make sure that the children are
safe for this home.

Speaker 12 (01:03:50):
The woman said she was following up on a complaint
filed against them, but didn't leave her contact info. Jamie
felt like something wasn't right, So what they ended up
doing is going back to their cameras and after looking
at the video, they ended up feeling even more uneasy
about what happened. Minutes earlier. She's on camera talking to
their four year old son, touching him, has her arm

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around him at times, stroking his hair.

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
Creeps us out a little bit. It's gut wrenching. I'm
absolutely sick to my stomach.

Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
The woman asked her son three different times to come
home with her. You see her son throw his hands
up run into the house and that's when Jamie comes
out and the woman identified herself as a CPS worker.

Speaker 18 (01:04:33):
Now we followed through and found out that she is
not from CPS that everything was a lie.

Speaker 12 (01:04:38):
Nor would police identify the woman on camera as forty
four year old Lisa Nacrell, who was in the Hamilton
County jail charged with child enticement.

Speaker 18 (01:04:46):
Your intention was clearly to take my son, to convince
him to walk down the street with you to this house,
which I didn't even know you lived this close, which
is terrifying in itself.

Speaker 12 (01:04:56):
WCPO nine News confirmed n Crowley lives blocks away from them.

Speaker 18 (01:05:00):
I told them over and over, you know all those
bad words that mommy says, you scream those at the
top of your do you know why, because it's going
to grab somebody's attention that you're in trouble.

Speaker 12 (01:05:11):
And while they still feel traumatized about what happened, they're
thankful their son's instincts kicked in in Norwood. Brett Pagansky
w CPO nine News, that's wild, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
That's why it's so important to have these conversations with
your kids about fucking strangers.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I don't know if if you noticed, not literally fucking strangers,
but no fuck strangers. Yeah, unless you want to. That
is from Norwood, since that is thirty minutes from us,
that's not far from here at all. Yeah, that is
our neck of the woods, my friend. It's crazy, it's crazy.
People are fucking nuts. That lady had a badge with

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her name on it, credentials, was out there on the
sidewalk rubbing this kid on the head, fucking trying to
smooz them up. I don't know what she was trying
to do, man, but yeah, that's and that's that's the
unske the most unsettling thing, right, It is like you
don't know. Obviously there's no good intention, because who lies

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about being a part of CPS and trying to take
kids with them? Like, there's only one intention whenever you
claim to be with cp and that is to abduct
the child, I feel like, or to scope out something
more nefarious than Yeah, and then when you think about
the possible reasons for wanting to abduct that, that's when
it gets even like fucking scarier and weirder and creepier.

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And we don't know that. The thing is yeah, with
you know between five hundred thousand, eight hundred thousand missing children, mmm,
we some of those some of the A lot of
those kids are dead, a lot of them are gone,
and a lot of them are being thrust into jobs
that they don't want to do, much like this woman
who was presumably strung out on drugs with fake CPS

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credentials on a sidewalk in Cincinnati, Ohio. Who could have
that woman very well could have been a product of
an abduction at some point in their life. Sure, And
then there was another recent post from just a couple
months ago. In June, Florida. A CPS team showed up

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at ten o'clock at night, two women, one guy. They
know the child's medical history. They asked to see her bedroom.
The parents called nine in one. The trio has gone
before the cops arrived. No agencies sent them, and these
stories they're all over, They keep piling up and nobody
has answers. At one point during the investigations in the

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in the UK, there were families that had recorded voicemails
from follow up calls, and the calls were traced to
burner phones with calm voices saying things like, uh, we'll
check on Timmy soon. And they were calling the homes
and leaving voice ails notifying these people that they would

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be out. We're coming out to check on Timmy. And
they were not who they say they were. This is
a good reminder to have a conversation with your kids
about strangers. Make up, fucking code words, make up. Let
them know that the only way they are to go

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with anybody is with the password, whatever the password may be,
or if it is XYZ, like you know, only me,
your mom and Rob Dog and Nicholics are the only
people out to come get you at school. Yeah, and guys,
if you want to put us on your emergency contact list, please,

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This is Tim from Production Services. Our friend Brad here
just cut his arm off on a machine and you
were listened to as as emergency point of contact. Dude,
I'd be fucking crazy. I'd laugh so fucking hard. Dude.
That's what would put us down is we're idiots, so stupid.

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Jeff got stuck in the Baylor again. We're need some
ready to come down and get him out. There's spinning
an accident. Oh my god, what happened? What give me
the tea? What?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I think that?

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Like who? I don't know him? What the fuck he
called me for? He lusted you as the primary beneficiary
of his life insurance policy and he just caught the
meat grinder. Oh really, such a sweetheart. I love that man.
He was great. I'll tell his wife how much money
are we talking? I'll tell his wife he's dead. Imagine

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just being put over people's spouses. That stupid fucking I guess. Yeah,
you want to spot on our wall back, you're go
ahead and put us in your living will We'll put
you up here next to breath to hit man heart
Hell yeah, yeah, So have those conversations with your family

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just about Hey, this is what we do when people
try and take us off the street. Oh geez, and
it is a man. This is a heavy topic that's
scarier than any ghost story. I'll tell you that it is.
And there's so much evidence to go along with it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's happening now, still happening. But that concludes our episode

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with Child Protective Service impostors. I hope you enjoyed the episode.
I hope you learn something. I hope it helped perk
your ears up to crazy shit going on out there.
You gotta be protective of your own I don't like it.
Gotta put us in your life insurance balls, and if
you do put us in there, let's know, because we

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want to thank you. Hunting trip, anybody that puts us
in their life insurance policy. It's a free hunting trip
with Nick and Rob very far out so you can
spend lots of intimate time away from people with us.
That's where all the game is. Is like way deep

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out in the forest, no cameras, so you just get
us at our best, just stripped down. We say really
bad words, worse than the ones we say on here.
All right, whatever that means, it doesn't get much worse.
It sounds awful. Uh hell yeah, guys, have a great week.

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We will catch you again and hopefully a couple of
days and then your stories. Then those stories for the meantime,
Be safe, have this talk with your families. We love you,
appreciate you. Guys. I want to see your dance.

Speaker 8 (01:12:11):
Take