December 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Bold Predictions for Miami vs Texas A&M: College Football Playoff Showdown | Buckeye Weekly Podcast
Join Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr on the Buckeye Weekly Podcast as they dive into their bold predictions for the highly anticipated College Football Playoff matchup between Miami and Texas A&M. From interception counts to special teams surprises and unexpected player performances, Tony and Tom lay out their most daring forecasts and add some wild caveats to keep things interesting. Don't miss their in-depth analysis, friendly banter, and unique takes on what could unfold in this first-round playoff clash. Plus, find out which predictions carry the weight of the infamous 'cot of shame'! Subscribe and hit the bell for more college football insights and updates.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:11 Explaining the Bold Prediction Show
01:31 Miami vs. Texas A&M: Bold Predictions
03:42 Interceptions and Quarterback Analysis
09:57 Special Teams and Defensive Predictions
19:06 Arrests and Ambiguity in Stats
19:16 Miami's Fumble Woes
19:48 Comparing Running Games: Miami vs. Ohio State
20:42 Texas A&M's Rushing Defense
21:16 Bold Predictions: Miami's Rushing Yards
22:30 KC Concepcion's Performance Expectations
25:17 Akheem Mesidor's Defensive Impact
28:19 Malachi Toney's Touchdown Challenge
32:50 Reuben Bain's Scoring Play Potential
34:23 Bonus Predictions and Wrap-Up
Join Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr on the Buckeye Weekly Podcast as they dive into their bold predictions for the highly anticipated College Football Playoff matchup between Miami and Texas A&M. From interception counts to special teams surprises and unexpected player performances, Tony and Tom lay out their most daring forecasts and add some wild caveats to keep things interesting. Don't miss their in-depth analysis, friendly banter, and unique takes on what could unfold in this first-round playoff clash. Plus, find out which predictions carry the weight of the infamous 'cot of shame'! Subscribe and hit the bell for more college football insights and updates.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:11 Explaining the Bold Prediction Show
01:31 Miami vs. Texas A&M: Bold Predictions
03:42 Interceptions and Quarterback Analysis
09:57 Special Teams and Defensive Predictions
19:06 Arrests and Ambiguity in Stats
19:16 Miami's Fumble Woes
19:48 Comparing Running Games: Miami vs. Ohio State
20:42 Texas A&M's Rushing Defense
21:16 Bold Predictions: Miami's Rushing Yards
22:30 KC Concepcion's Performance Expectations
25:17 Akheem Mesidor's Defensive Impact
28:19 Malachi Toney's Touchdown Challenge
32:50 Reuben Bain's Scoring Play Potential
34:23 Bonus Predictions and Wrap-Up
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Tony hit his time for our stupidest show of every
college football week, the Ball Prediction Show.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And because I know we're gonna have probably a.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bunch of Texas A and M and Miami fans watching,
we should probably explain what we're doing, how we do this,
why it is incredibly stupid, and because you know, I'm
sure that Texas A and M fans after that will
be fine. I'm sure the Miami fans will continue to
be extremely angry and up in their feelings every time
we say anything short of Miami is basically incredible and
(00:44):
the most invincible team in the history of sports, not
just college football, all of sports, Tony, the greatest team
in the world. So you know, occasionally I will let
you know, Miami fans, I'm gonna warn you we may
say things that are slightly positive about Texas A and
M at times in this show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Rest assured.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We're usually wrong on these so that rest assured. That's why.
That's the only reason. It's because we have to be
wrong on these shows. Sometimes that's why we might ever
say anything even slightly negative about Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now that you said that we're wrong on this show
a lot, I'm just gonna let the Miami fans know
I've got quite a few bold predictions in the positive
for Miami. So I don't know what that means for you, guys.
Take it up with Tom for spoiling the good news
bad news of this whole show. But yes, welcome everybody
to our Bold Predictions show for the Miami Texas A
(01:36):
and M game, which takes place Saturday at twelve pm
eleven Local, which is the absolute best time for a
college football playoff game. So Tom, just so we're clear,
this is more of a friendly. This is a friendly.
There's no bearings because I already won the bold predictions
from the Big Ten championship game by a massive score
(01:59):
of one to nothing. When we don't take in the
freebies that we throw each other's way, so shut out
by me to you, tom My defensive bald predictions.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And this is these are We will challenge each other's
bold predictions to make sure they ensure that they meet
the standard of boldness required of the show. We generally
will have a if we have an upcoming trip. The
loser gets what we call the cot of shame on
these trips. So if you lose the bold predictions, you know,
(02:31):
there we will generally travel with a number of people
that is greater than the number of beds in the
hotel room, and so we'll have the cot of shame
or pull out couch of shame or air mattress of shame,
whatever it is. It sort of shorthanded as the cot
of shame that is generally was on the line in
these and you will probably hear the number seventeen and
thirty four a bunch.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In this show. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It just sort of became a thing when we were
trying to come up with ways to you know, add
some caveats to you know, maybe create some additional difficulties
for opponents bold predictions. For Miami fans, caveats mean, like,
you know, stuff to make it a little harder.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So yeah, there you go, also trying to understand it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Also for Miami fans, go back and watch the play
where Chris Gambel gets held and also catches the ball
in bounds, and either one of those would have functionally
ended the two thousand and three Fiesta Bowl in regulation
had either of the ben adjudicated properly, and no one
would know Terry Porter's name anyway. Thanks for joining us, Tony,
Why don't you go first?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, first, let me say by if you could just
hit the thumbs up on the video if you're watching
on YouTube, we'd appreciate that. And if you're listening, a great,
great way to support the show and everything that it
stands for is a five star rating interview. Tom My
first bold prediction here in this one, and I think
it is fairly bold given the two quarterbacks that will
be playing Texas A and M's Marcel Reid Miami's Carson Beck.
(03:53):
No more than one interception thrown per half. If somebody
if there are two interceptions and a half, boom, I
lose this. No more, Tom, no more than one interception
throne per half in this game. And we have seen
these two quarterbacks over over the course of the year.
Everybody saw that South Carolina game, at least the first half,
(04:14):
and we've seen I think we were all in the
same hotel room watching Carson Beck throw more passes to
the Louisville Cardinals than to the Miami Hurricanes. So Tom
boldly predicting no more than one interception per half in
this game.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So this is an interesting one because I have gone
a completely other direction here with the fact, Tony, do
you know how many interceptions Texas A and M has
on the season as a defense?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I will say seven.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I will tell.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You that Mordecai Brown, legendary long time ago pitcher, would
have been able to.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Count them on one hand.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Three three interceptions all season for Texas A and M.
There tyer one hundred and thirtieth in the nation. Only
Cincinnati had fewer inner this season, and Tony, yes, Carson
Beck was terrible in the middle of the year. However,
do you know how many car interceptions Carson Beck has
thrown in his last four games?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One exactly one?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, Tony. That's why, if we're actually defining boldness here,
we would say that Carson Beck is going to throw
an interception in this game.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That's where we're going with this.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I suppose these two good Does it coexist potentially?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How many?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I did not look at how many interceptions Marcel Reid
has thrown. How many has he thrown this this year?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, somewhere between four and twenty two. Yeah, I don't
know if he's ten.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
He thrown ten interceptions, and Carson Beck has thrown I
believe about that same number. Carson Beck has thrown ten
interceptions as well. So twenty interceptions in twenty four games.
And you know they're play each other, so it's twenty
interceptions in twelve games. So that's about two interceptions a game.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So and I'm saying no more than that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
In the half.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That seems like okay, all right, I think I would
be more likely to say two interceptions in in a
half rather than know more than two interceptions and a half.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So you want the bald prediction to be like, there
will be at least two interceptions in one half.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
At least two, and we may need to put some
kind of a modifier on here.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, I'll say this, Yeah, there will be at least
I'll say three interceptions and a half. That way, there's
no modifier. I'm going to clear the wall on this one.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
There are a.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Ground rule double at least three interceptions and a half
that includes overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just so we're clear, yes, if they have and all
over times lumped into one thing, yes, not yes, okay,
But is overtime a separate half or is overtime included it?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Overtimes?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Overtime is like a third half?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Correct? No, No, I include overtime in the second half,
but no more than one. Let's say, no more than
one interception.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Boy, your your generosity knows no bounds. Uh. If if
you're gonna approve my Carson Beck one, then I will
approve this one.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh yeah, no, I'm not approving that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Texan, Texas A and Antoni three all season three all season?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, okay, approve this, and then we can talk about
I'm gonna do like the whole government thing. Just approve this,
and then we can talk about the possibility of what
we're going to talk about with yours. Because okay, we'll
say that mine is good at least three interceptions and
a half and including overtime. Yours Carson Beck throws only
one interception. Is that what you're.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Saying, throws at least one interception? Okay, if you'd like
me to say exactly one, I will say exactly one.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Ooh, Now that that takes off the modifiers that I
was gonna throw onto it, because then then we're we've
got to stop there because I was thinking, you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna need like the third quarter to
be eliminated or something like that, but exactly one, I
don't know. I view him like when he's playing quarterback
against defenses with a pulse, kind of like a bag
(08:37):
of l ays. You can't just do one. You know,
he's gonna have to throw more than one interception in
this one, so he's gonna keep reaching his hand into
that bag. And I know Texas to A and M time
they don't intercept pass. They don't even know how they
intercept a pass. Funny things happen when Carson Beck gets
gets into a funk. Even though I think I am
picking Miami in this game and I fully expect him
(08:58):
to perhaps win, So we'll go ahead with this only
one interception.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I will correct you in one thing that was pringles,
not lays. And I will also amend this to re
reflect that Texas A and M's defensive backs apparently play
like they have pringles cans stuck on their hands, which
is why they're not able to intercept passes. I also
am probably picking Miami in this game, but you know, well,
we'll get to there. We'll probably do a preview show
or something on Friday, but yeah, maybe maybe, or maybe
(09:27):
this will service the preview, which you know, might be
about fitting for this game.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, my second one pointer, and just other people know,
we have five to one bold predictions, a two pointer,
which is a little bit more bold, and then a
three pointer, which is even more bold, and then we
throw a bonus freebie out to each other. It's a
little bit of charity to the end the show, which
is generally caustic and abrasive and very well, we end
it in a friendly way, even though this show entirely friendly.
(09:56):
Today my next one pointer, there will be at least
one arrest of a Miami fan between the middle eight.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
One arrest of Miami fan between the middle eight. No,
is this going to get solved by or resolved by
foying the arrest log for the Texas A and M Police.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Department police scanner. I'll have it on mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know Texas A and M. I think Texas A
and M was the one where the campus where someone
was doing cocaine in the upper deck at one point, So.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I feel like we maybe need to narrow this crime
down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But I've given the history of Miami and also the
history of the upper deck at Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know that even narrowing it down to something
specific might be.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Might leave things open.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So I think, just for creativity, yes, I think we're
gonna do that, and we're gonna have to look at
the time on the actual clock when we hit four
minutes left in the first half, and the time at
the beginning of the four minute into the third quarter
mark actual time.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Just because I can't wait for this one, like I think, yes,
we need to absolutely, absolutely allow this one.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I was even thinking of making this my three pointer,
provided the person that is being arrested is wearing a
DJ Williams or Jarrett Payton jersey. If but I'm gonnaeschew
the seventeen thirty four thing here, I just go with
a one pointer, keep it simple, stupid, and just go
from there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
If it's a Willie Williams Jersey, I will give you two.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Points and all the lobster tails you could eat.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And if it's for setting off a fire extinguisher, I
will give you three points, but it must be William
William Williams Jersey and the fire extinguisher Willy Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is that eleven is fifty one? I can't did he
even have it? Was he there long enough to have
a jersey? Yes? He was there for a couple of
years before. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So back on the field, I'm going to say Tony
that Miami has Miami has a big play on special teams,
and I'm going to define this in a very specific way.
They're going to block a kick or a punt or
they're going to have a return of at least forty yards.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, I think this can I mean, I think we
can coexist with this one, because what you're asking for.
I was looking to see that the blocked kicks and punts,
and I'm just looking real quickly because I've got theirs
up here in the misk defense for the the Miami Hurricanes.
(12:42):
They have not blocked a kick or a punt this year,
and I assume they we know they've got the talent
that can have a return of forty yards. So I
will accept this one, Tom and it goes right along
with my third one pointer, which encompasses the entire game.
Both teams a special teams touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Mm Okay, Yeah, this feels like one where I have
to I have to allow it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And you know you could.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You could certainly see a block punt for a touchdown.
You could certainly see a kick return for a touchdown.
I think whichever team does that is very likely.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
To win the game. And given the.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Relative sp plus ranks of these two teams, Miami is
certainly more likely to do it that On special teams, well,
I think I think a lot of Texas A and
M's bad special teams sp plus ranking has to do
with the fact that their field goal kicking has been
atrocious this year.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think they've.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Recently fixed that with by replacing their kicker. But yeah,
I think that's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I will I will allow that one. How about this one, Tony, And.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
This is going to be a dealer's choice for you, Okay,
Cassius Howell. First of all, do you know where Casius
Howell started his Do you know? Cashs Howill tie to
the State of Ohio defensive end for Texas A and
M and SEC Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
His tie to Ohio, I will say, but I could
not even He's born in the same Heist hospital as
urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh and Toledo.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You're not terribly far off geographically. Also, thanks for listening
to Buckeyees tomorrow morning, where we talked about this earlier
in the week. Cassius Howell started his college career. He's
from Missouri, but he started his college career as a
Bowling Green Falcon for two years twenty three, twenty twenty two,
and twenty twenty three, and then went to Texas A
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and M last year. Now the SEC's defensive player of
the Year. Now, I will give you a choice between
two things that have happened only twice this season. One
is that Cassius Howell records zero tackles for loss that
has only happened twice all season, once against Power five competition.
Or he records at least one point five tackles for loss,
(14:59):
which happened twice an SEC play and that was against
Mississippi State and LSU. I think he may have done
that against one of the like South Florida, maybe something
someone someone that they played out of conference.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
That was not a particularly good team, UTSA or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But so he records either zero tackles for loss or
at least one and a half tackles for loss, and
I will let you choose which one it is, because
that way, when you're wrong, it makes it even better.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'll go with no tackles for loss. And I'm I
was looking at him as well, and he's actually my
my a fourth, my fourth one pointer. So what we
can address that here in the second. But I feel
like no tackles for loss is more bold than one
and a half tackles for loss against a relatively stationary quarterback.
(15:50):
And they're in a running game that can be tackled
at the line of scrimmage, so it certainly could be
tackled behind it. So I'm going to go with no
tackles for laws, which should make the Texas A and
M fans happy, and the Miami fans. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm confused by who should be happy,
who should be angry. I just know everybody's angry anyway.
(16:11):
So I will say no tackles for lost, Tom. How
do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, Tony, I will tell you that was what I
was hotly trap. I was hoping you would fall into. Because,
according to CFB Film Room, Miami's offensive line in terms
of opponent adjusted pass protection, Miami allows fifty three percent
lower pressure rate relative to opponent's average pressure rate. That
is by far the best of any team in the
College Football Playoff. Thank you for falling into my trap
(16:39):
and coming to my dead talk.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And really, the Miami offensive line is one of the
reasons why I've I have a bold prediction with it,
but I didn't want to make it two stats heavy
because their offensive line is very, very good. So no
tackles for loss I expect him to. I mean, it
only takes one half. He only has to jump on
a pile here, and I think he can jump on
(17:02):
a pile just fine, So mine is clearly much more bold.
Cassius Holl As we just spoke about Tom. Do you
know where he spent his first two years in college?
By the way, was it pit? Nope? It was Bowling
Green University, where every good Northwest Ohio high school boy
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learns to play uker.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So's he's from Missouri, but he probably does know how
to play uker.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh I was talking about myself. That's where I learned.
Cassius Hall forces a fumble in this game. He has
one or two on the season, and this as you
just said, we know the Miami offensive line. How was
he even gonna get to somebody with the ball? I
don't know, but I have him forcing a fumble in
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this one. And it's the same as intercepting a pass.
It's just it's understood to be a one point. You
can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It is understood to be a one pointer, and it's related,
I think to one that I have because Tony, do
you know how many fumbles Miami has lost all season long,
the entire season, going back to before Labor Day, Labor
Day weekend against Notre Dame so long ago, how warm
it was, Tony, how young we were, how young going
(18:21):
back that far? How many fumbles has Miami lost this season?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I will say two.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
One fumble, one fumble lost all season long. So, Tony,
that is why it is so extremely bold to say
that they will lose one on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You with cash is how old?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He just needs to force one. Miami can jump on that,
and it's fine for me. Miami needs to fumble it
and also lose the fumble, for only.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Are recounting muffs? Are we counting muffs in this.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
If it shows up on the stat sheet as a
fumble like they I don't know if muffs show up
as fumble or not on the stat sheet. I'm going
purely by the statue here. I believe I don't leave
any ambiguity.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah yeah, well, Tom, I'll just remind you arrests are
not on the status sheet, so there will be some
ambiguity in this episode. Spoiler warning. So yeah, okay, Miami
will lose the fumble. Boy, Hurricane fans, you hear this,
hear this crap that he's saying about Hurricanes can't even
hold onto the ball. Carson Beck out there throwing in
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completions and interceptions all over the place, specifically one as
Tom said, all right, here's one for me, my last
one pointer. There will not be a rush of longer
than seventeen yards in this.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Game, so that I was looking at something very similar
to that, because Miami Ohio State fans all year have
been saying, boy, the offense of the offense is just
the rushing game. It's okay, but it's just not very explosive.
And if if you look at Miami's running game compared
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to compared to Ohio State's running game, Ohio State's running
game looks like it is the Darren McFadden Felix Jones
Arkansas team compared to compared to this year's Miami team.
Ohio State this year eight plays of thirty plus yards
and four plays of forty plus yards Miami this year.
(20:25):
Three rushes of thirty plus yards all season in the nation.
No rushes of forty plus yards for Miami. So now
it's got to go and check the got to go check.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
The long Can they tell you how many that they've allowed? Uh? Huh?
Is that what you're looking at? So Texas A and
M has allowed nineteen rushes of twenty yards or more
and Miami is allowed at eleven. So movable force, you know,
motionless object. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, long opponent long rushing plays. Let's see what where
Texas A, Texas A, and M actually rank in that
one hundred and third man.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It only takes one Malachai Tony.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So if you want, if you want to tell me Miami,
Miami's long run of the day is less than seventeen yards,
that would be okay. But if we're doing Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
A and M as well, both teams, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Probably so generous, Okay, So we're saying Miami will not.
Now you're trying to get me in trouble with these people.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Listen, I'm I'm I can only I can't help.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I can't help the hate in your heart.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, so Miami will have Well let's see, Okay, where
am I no rush longer than seventeen yards for Miami?
And that's just tom because they're throwing the ball down
to the Texas A and M sixteen and then rushing
the ball in on one carry every single time. That's
how I'm seeing this. So here's my final one pointer, and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Texas A and M has nine rushes of thirty plus
yards this year and five of forty plus, So yes,
that would be that would be overly generous.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
All right, So boy, let's see I have so many
good choices here.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I bet I had a bunch of extra ones because
I thought he's going to be an enormous pain, and
you're being less of a pain than normal, which is good.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm going to come. I'm gonna save some of my
Miami fans holster those weapons. I have some positive ones coming.
So I'm gonna end my one pointers with Texas A
and M. Wide receiver Ksey concepcione, Tony, He's gonna have
eighty five yards receiving and a touchdown. And I can
(22:43):
hear you saying, how bold is that? Well, Tony, it
is so bold that it has never happened this season.
It has never happened in the entire time he has
been a Texas A and m Aggie not once. He's
had more than that, more than eighty five yards twice
this season, but not scored a touchdown in either of
those games. He scored touchdowns in several games, but never
with that many yards.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean you're basically he's you're going above his
averages slightly enough. Yeah, so I will go ahead and
accept this. I mean he had eighty four yards in
a touchdown against Missouri.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh, what a coincidence. I'm picking introduce to that. Do
more than that, which has never happened, Tony, not once.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, that's fine. Again, this is friendly. This does not
count the standings. As we know, I have already secured
the season long championship. So yes, Casey.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Conception, that's probably accurate.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
But go on, please, we're in here now, Casey conception
on eighty five yards receiving any touch on? Now, Tom
I feel like I need We have not thrown any
caveats out there, We have not thrown any adjustments out
there in this show. So I feel like I should
tost something out there for the people, and let's just
(24:05):
do this. The first seventeen yard reception gets eliminated.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's okay, as long as the first thirty four yard
reception counts twice.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well, now, who's fallen into whose trap? Again? I can
I fall into two traps in the same show? Probably?
All right, the first seventeen yarder gets eliminated, but the
second seventeen yarder negates the entire thing, Like, no, does
not count. Any thirty four yards do not count?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
He has two seventeen yarders. Then that was a duplicate
thirty four yarders. That doesn't feel particularly likely to happen,
and it also feels overly complicated and wildly unnecessary. So
I feel like I'm compelled to allow.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So all right, perfect, perfect, And I'm not gonna type
all of that out. Yes, I'll review the show and
again police scanner afterwards. All right, my two pointer, something
that has not happened this season would be shocked if
it has happened before. Then I will say this time,
as everybody's talking about Ruben Bain and cash is how
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the guy that continues to stand out for me is
a key Messador Miami defensive event. I have him down here.
Here's this time. At least two sacks for a key Messador.
A season high this year is one and a half.
That's for two points. At least two sacks for a
keen Messador. Congratulations to me on a winner.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, so I also have a key messador's game log up.
First of all, a key Messador made his made his
college debut while the Big ten was still not playing
football in twenty twenty, so he has been in college
for a hot minute. He has had one and a
half sacks twice this year. This feels like a tremendous
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one pointer. I'm not sure it feels like a two pointer.
Let me check the.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The last time he had more than one and a
half sacks in the game was twenty twenty two. He
had three and a half against Virginia Tech, and then
he had two against Clemson, and then since then he
had one total. In twenty twenty three, he had five
and a half. Last year with no more than one
in a game, and then of course, this year he's
had one and a half against Notre Dame and against Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So again, this feels like a perfectly valid one pointer
for two points. It feels a little overly generous. So
we probably need to put some kind of a caveat
on this, and I will say that if the second
sack comes between the Texas A and M seventeen and
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thirty four yard lines, it does not count. Just the
same if the first sack can the second sack cannot
come between the Texas A and M seventeen and thirty four.
I'm not being greedy and asking for both. I'm just
saying a seventeen yard piece of the one half the
field for the second set.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Okay, if second sack happens between A and M seventeen
and thirty four, it does not count.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And if you were now over and you're still listening,
for some inexplicable reason, about ninety five percent of these
shows is really all about Tony and I being able
to text each other and laugh at each other about
the extremely stupid caveats we have thrown on things that
have either made something happen or made something not happen,
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which then we can hold over each other for the
rest of the weekend. That's really what this show is
all about. But people listen for some reason.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I don't know, all right, yeah, for some reason. And
then also we also receive feedback, like I'll get during
the game, I'll get like some people a tweet at me,
like some exclamation points or this or that, and it's like,
I don't know what this is about. Oh yes, the
bold predictions and something randomly stupid just happened, So all right,
I will agree to this. Tom. What is your two pointer?
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That is you're you're you're pulling from your group of ones?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Okay, no, this is actually from This is actually from
my twos. Malachi Tony accounts for three touchdowns, which he
has never done before, and he must do it in
at least two ways. And he's only done that once
this season, and that was the pit game where he
threw and had a reception. So at least three touchdowns
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in at least two ways.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And I also have Malakai Tony, but I didn't want
to do that because it felt too obvious because he
just did it the last time they played.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
With the two What towns I must do? I watched
the whole game, and I only saw two, so then
he did.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm just saying, I'm saying the two ways, Tom, and
this is for two points.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
This is for two points.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Which is why we're sort of harlaying two things here,
one that has not happened at all, one that has
only happened once.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yes, and we know because my I was looking at
what kind of three pointers should I do do with
Malachi Tony and then it starts to get a little
bit ridiculous with all of the different ways that he
gets involved with the game. So this I'm wondering how
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many touchdowns are there going to be in this game?
For mine? There may only be three, or there may
be six, and so I.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Am expecting this to be a relatively low scoring game.
And also I just saw a stat that I think
the last nine games going back to Championship weekend and
the first round of like the the Army Navy game
and the first few Bowl games, all of them have
gone under. So it feels like the trend has generally
been towards the under. So that's, uh, that's one of
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my that's my thinking there.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Well, I like that you can pull out a stat
and be like I think I just saw I'm gonna
start doing that inciting Facebook. I saw I saw this
story on Facebook about did you see this? Cassius Howell
rescued an elephant in a flood and then he gave
it to an orphanage. Have you seen this? So I'm
gonna how can you go against Cassius Howel on this
when he rescued an orphanage in a flood and gave
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them an elephant? So tom I will agree with this.
Three touchdowns, two different ways, two different ways. And that
was mal chay TONI was there anything else to that one?
It was just that simple, right, that was it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And I'm trying to find the tweet by searching under
bowls and got a tweet from eggnog and Joyer, who
has a picture of a toilet paper roll says, find
out one of my good buddies is an underguy. Not
sure how much longer I can keep this up, which is,
you know, tough, but.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Fair, fair, fair, fair, All right, tom My three pointer
something that I don't believe is ever happen, and certainly
not in college football history. Malachai Tony, Miami wide receiver,
true freshman. We'll throw an interception in this game.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So what I no, I I I'm not gonna fight
you on and I'm just I'm just sort of thinking
through because he's going to throw maybe two passes at
the most, which doesn't give you Brown afproch your opportunities.
And we ut to remember Texas A and MS defensive
acts playing with those pringles cans on their hand, which
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is really gonna make things complicated. I feel like I
kind of have to allow this one because it's a
you know, I don't he has not thrown an interception
this year.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I don't believe crag No.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
He is four of six. All six of those passes
have come in the last four games. Yeah, he's thrown
two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's like about zero point seven Michael wileys, which is
the scale that we measure all running back or non
quarterback passing by. If you don't know who Michael Wiley is,
google the late nineties Ohio State running back Michael Wiley,
who was what like six or six passing for like
four touchdowns and just absolutely unstoppable on the running back
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pass that's still to be to be zero point seven.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Michael Wiley's is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, I think I you know, to be in line
with my earlier take on the likelihood of Texas A
and M intercepting Carson back, I think I have to
allow this one.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
So I will allow that one.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Which is interesting because this is another one where you've
got a guy, a notable Miami player, getting involved in
a play in a way that you wouldn't necessarily expect.
So Tony Rubin Bayin participates in a scoring play. Now,
I don't anticipate him on offense, but look, if they
put him in at running back for the refrigerator Perry,
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I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm going to accept that. I have no indication that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
They've ever done that, but if they do, I'm gonna
take it. However, he could return an interception, he could
force a fumble that is recovered for a touchdown. He
could recover a fumble for a touchdown. Or he could
participate in a safety in some way with a tackle
for loss, a sack drawing a penalty in the end zone.
But he participates Reuben Bain in a scoring.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Play, I'm not going to fight you on this one.
I'm just really looking really quickly to see if he
as any rushes or catches as has a hefty tight end.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
So we're talking forcing a fumble, recovering a fumble, like
if you force a fumble and somebody else runs it in.
Are you are recounting that one?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
If Yeah, he participates in a scoring play. Now I'm
and I'm I can just tell you. I'm looking he
has not recorded a safety in his career. He has
not had an interception for a touchdown in his career.
I don't think he's I can't find that. They don't
have forced fumbles on the page I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But well, I'll go ahead and allow this one out
of the Again, the understanding that this is a friendly
and we're trying to set a good example for the
Miami fans out there. So yes, great, you know what
great pick. I commend you on the bold prediction. Good
job all around. I think you've handled yourself very very
well throughout this. So now, Tom, and this is where
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we try to give each other a point with we
hand over a bonus prediction. Tom, I'm going to my
bonus bold prediction for you. Carson back throws a completion
of at least seven yards.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
All right, that's that is fair. I will accept that,
accept that, thank you. How about this one. If he
plays in the game, and I have no reason to
expect that he will not. But if he plays in
the game, Malachai, TONI will be targeted for at least
one pass attempt.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Thank you, Tom malca I, Tony will be targeted at
least once. I will appreciate that, and I will take that.
And there you go. There's your bold prediction show. I
did not expect us to go this long because I
didn't expect figured we wouldn't be doing too much arguing
because we're trying to set a good example for the people.
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But here we are. I feel pretty good about my picks.
I will The good news is you can just listen
to the scanner online and follow things that way.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You know what to do in m police department on
Twitter now, So.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
There you go. You follow those and be entertained, and
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Tony hit his time for our stupidest show of every
college football week, the Ball Prediction Show.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And because I know we're gonna have probably a.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bunch of Texas A and M and Miami fans watching,
we should probably explain what we're doing, how we do this,
why it is incredibly stupid, and because you know, I'm
sure that Texas A and M fans after that will
be fine. I'm sure the Miami fans will continue to
be extremely angry and up in their feelings every time
we say anything short of Miami is basically incredible and
(00:44):
the most invincible team in the history of sports, not
just college football, all of sports, Tony, the greatest team
in the world. So you know, occasionally I will let
you know, Miami fans, I'm gonna warn you we may
say things that are slightly positive about Texas A and
M at times in this show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Rest assured.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We're usually wrong on these so that rest assured. That's why.
That's the only reason. It's because we have to be
wrong on these shows. Sometimes that's why we might ever
say anything even slightly negative about Miami.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now that you said that we're wrong on this show
a lot, I'm just gonna let the Miami fans know
I've got quite a few bold predictions in the positive
for Miami. So I don't know what that means for you, guys.
Take it up with Tom for spoiling the good news
bad news of this whole show. But yes, welcome everybody
to our Bold Predictions show for the Miami Texas A
(01:36):
and M game, which takes place Saturday at twelve pm
eleven Local, which is the absolute best time for a
college football playoff game. So Tom, just so we're clear,
this is more of a friendly. This is a friendly.
There's no bearings because I already won the bold predictions
from the Big Ten championship game by a massive score
(01:59):
of one to nothing. When we don't take in the
freebies that we throw each other's way, so shut out
by me to you, tom My defensive bald predictions.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And this is these are We will challenge each other's
bold predictions to make sure they ensure that they meet
the standard of boldness required of the show. We generally
will have a if we have an upcoming trip. The
loser gets what we call the cot of shame on
these trips. So if you lose the bold predictions, you know,
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there we will generally travel with a number of people
that is greater than the number of beds in the
hotel room, and so we'll have the cot of shame
or pull out couch of shame or air mattress of shame,
whatever it is. It sort of shorthanded as the cot
of shame that is generally was on the line in
these and you will probably hear the number seventeen and
thirty four a bunch.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In this show. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It just sort of became a thing when we were
trying to come up with ways to you know, add
some caveats to you know, maybe create some additional difficulties
for opponents bold predictions. For Miami fans, caveats mean, like,
you know, stuff to make it a little harder.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So yeah, there you go, also trying to understand it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Also for Miami fans, go back and watch the play
where Chris Gambel gets held and also catches the ball
in bounds, and either one of those would have functionally
ended the two thousand and three Fiesta Bowl in regulation
had either of the ben adjudicated properly, and no one
would know Terry Porter's name anyway. Thanks for joining us, Tony,
Why don't you go first?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, first, let me say by if you could just
hit the thumbs up on the video if you're watching
on YouTube, we'd appreciate that. And if you're listening, a great,
great way to support the show and everything that it
stands for is a five star rating interview. Tom My
first bold prediction here in this one, and I think
it is fairly bold given the two quarterbacks that will
be playing Texas A and M's Marcel Reid Miami's Carson Beck.
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No more than one interception thrown per half. If somebody
if there are two interceptions and a half, boom, I
lose this. No more, Tom, no more than one interception
throne per half in this game. And we have seen
these two quarterbacks over over the course of the year.
Everybody saw that South Carolina game, at least the first half,
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and we've seen I think we were all in the
same hotel room watching Carson Beck throw more passes to
the Louisville Cardinals than to the Miami Hurricanes. So Tom
boldly predicting no more than one interception per half in
this game.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So this is an interesting one because I have gone
a completely other direction here with the fact, Tony, do
you know how many interceptions Texas A and M has
on the season as a defense?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I will say seven.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I will tell.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You that Mordecai Brown, legendary long time ago pitcher, would
have been able to.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Count them on one hand.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Three three interceptions all season for Texas A and M.
There tyer one hundred and thirtieth in the nation. Only
Cincinnati had fewer inner this season, and Tony, yes, Carson
Beck was terrible in the middle of the year. However,
do you know how many car interceptions Carson Beck has
thrown in his last four games?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One exactly one?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yes, Tony. That's why, if we're actually defining boldness here,
we would say that Carson Beck is going to throw
an interception in this game.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That's where we're going with this.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I suppose these two good Does it coexist potentially?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How many?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I did not look at how many interceptions Marcel Reid
has thrown. How many has he thrown this this year?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh, somewhere between four and twenty two. Yeah, I don't
know if he's ten.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
He thrown ten interceptions, and Carson Beck has thrown I
believe about that same number. Carson Beck has thrown ten
interceptions as well. So twenty interceptions in twenty four games.
And you know they're play each other, so it's twenty
interceptions in twelve games. So that's about two interceptions a game.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So and I'm saying no more than that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
In the half.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That seems like okay, all right, I think I would
be more likely to say two interceptions in in a
half rather than know more than two interceptions and a half.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So you want the bald prediction to be like, there
will be at least two interceptions in one half.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
At least two, and we may need to put some
kind of a modifier on here.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, I'll say this, Yeah, there will be at least
I'll say three interceptions and a half. That way, there's
no modifier. I'm going to clear the wall on this one.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
There are a.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Ground rule double at least three interceptions and a half
that includes overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just so we're clear, yes, if they have and all
over times lumped into one thing, yes, not yes, okay,
But is overtime a separate half or is overtime included it?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Overtimes?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Overtime is like a third half?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Correct? No, No, I include overtime in the second half,
but no more than one. Let's say, no more than
one interception.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Boy, your your generosity knows no bounds. Uh. If if
you're gonna approve my Carson Beck one, then I will
approve this one.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh yeah, no, I'm not approving that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Texan, Texas A and Antoni three all season three all season?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, okay, approve this, and then we can talk about
I'm gonna do like the whole government thing. Just approve this,
and then we can talk about the possibility of what
we're going to talk about with yours. Because okay, we'll
say that mine is good at least three interceptions and
a half and including overtime. Yours Carson Beck throws only
one interception. Is that what you're.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Saying, throws at least one interception? Okay, if you'd like
me to say exactly one, I will say exactly one.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Ooh, Now that that takes off the modifiers that I
was gonna throw onto it, because then then we're we've
got to stop there because I was thinking, you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna need like the third quarter to
be eliminated or something like that, but exactly one, I
don't know. I view him like when he's playing quarterback
against defenses with a pulse, kind of like a bag
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of l ays. You can't just do one. You know,
he's gonna have to throw more than one interception in
this one, so he's gonna keep reaching his hand into
that bag. And I know Texas to A and M time
they don't intercept pass. They don't even know how they
intercept a pass. Funny things happen when Carson Beck gets
gets into a funk. Even though I think I am
picking Miami in this game and I fully expect him
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to perhaps win, So we'll go ahead with this only
one interception.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I will correct you in one thing that was pringles,
not lays. And I will also amend this to re
reflect that Texas A and M's defensive backs apparently play
like they have pringles cans stuck on their hands, which
is why they're not able to intercept passes. I also
am probably picking Miami in this game, but you know, well,
we'll get to there. We'll probably do a preview show
or something on Friday, but yeah, maybe maybe, or maybe
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this will service the preview, which you know, might be
about fitting for this game.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, my second one pointer, and just other people know,
we have five to one bold predictions, a two pointer,
which is a little bit more bold, and then a
three pointer, which is even more bold, and then we
throw a bonus freebie out to each other. It's a
little bit of charity to the end the show, which
is generally caustic and abrasive and very well, we end
it in a friendly way, even though this show entirely friendly.
(09:56):
Today my next one pointer, there will be at least
one arrest of a Miami fan between the middle eight.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
One arrest of Miami fan between the middle eight. No,
is this going to get solved by or resolved by
foying the arrest log for the Texas A and M Police.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Department police scanner. I'll have it on mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know Texas A and M. I think Texas A
and M was the one where the campus where someone
was doing cocaine in the upper deck at one point, So.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I feel like we maybe need to narrow this crime
down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But I've given the history of Miami and also the
history of the upper deck at Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know that even narrowing it down to something
specific might be.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Might leave things open.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So I think, just for creativity, yes, I think we're
gonna do that, and we're gonna have to look at
the time on the actual clock when we hit four
minutes left in the first half, and the time at
the beginning of the four minute into the third quarter
mark actual time.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Just because I can't wait for this one, like I think, yes,
we need to absolutely, absolutely allow this one.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I was even thinking of making this my three pointer,
provided the person that is being arrested is wearing a
DJ Williams or Jarrett Payton jersey. If but I'm gonnaeschew
the seventeen thirty four thing here, I just go with
a one pointer, keep it simple, stupid, and just go
from there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
If it's a Willie Williams Jersey, I will give you two.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Points and all the lobster tails you could eat.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And if it's for setting off a fire extinguisher, I
will give you three points, but it must be William
William Williams Jersey and the fire extinguisher Willy Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is that eleven is fifty one? I can't did he
even have it? Was he there long enough to have
a jersey? Yes? He was there for a couple of
years before. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So back on the field, I'm going to say Tony
that Miami has Miami has a big play on special teams,
and I'm going to define this in a very specific way.
They're going to block a kick or a punt or
they're going to have a return of at least forty yards.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, I think this can I mean, I think we
can coexist with this one, because what you're asking for.
I was looking to see that the blocked kicks and punts,
and I'm just looking real quickly because I've got theirs
up here in the misk defense for the the Miami Hurricanes.
(12:42):
They have not blocked a kick or a punt this year,
and I assume they we know they've got the talent
that can have a return of forty yards. So I
will accept this one, Tom and it goes right along
with my third one pointer, which encompasses the entire game.
Both teams a special teams touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Mm Okay, Yeah, this feels like one where I have
to I have to allow it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And you know you could.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You could certainly see a block punt for a touchdown.
You could certainly see a kick return for a touchdown.
I think whichever team does that is very likely.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
To win the game. And given the.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Relative sp plus ranks of these two teams, Miami is
certainly more likely to do it that On special teams, well,
I think I think a lot of Texas A and
M's bad special teams sp plus ranking has to do
with the fact that their field goal kicking has been
atrocious this year.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think they've.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Recently fixed that with by replacing their kicker. But yeah,
I think that's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I will I will allow that one. How about this one, Tony, And.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
This is going to be a dealer's choice for you, Okay,
Cassius Howell. First of all, do you know where Casius
Howell started his Do you know? Cashs Howill tie to
the State of Ohio defensive end for Texas A and
M and SEC Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
His tie to Ohio, I will say, but I could
not even He's born in the same Heist hospital as
urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh and Toledo.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You're not terribly far off geographically. Also, thanks for listening
to Buckeyees tomorrow morning, where we talked about this earlier
in the week. Cassius Howell started his college career. He's
from Missouri, but he started his college career as a
Bowling Green Falcon for two years twenty three, twenty twenty two,
and twenty twenty three, and then went to Texas A
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and M last year. Now the SEC's defensive player of
the Year. Now, I will give you a choice between
two things that have happened only twice this season. One
is that Cassius Howell records zero tackles for loss that
has only happened twice all season, once against Power five competition.
Or he records at least one point five tackles for loss,
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which happened twice an SEC play and that was against
Mississippi State and LSU. I think he may have done
that against one of the like South Florida, maybe something
someone someone that they played out of conference.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
That was not a particularly good team, UTSA or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But so he records either zero tackles for loss or
at least one and a half tackles for loss, and
I will let you choose which one it is, because
that way, when you're wrong, it makes it even better.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'll go with no tackles for loss. And I'm I
was looking at him as well, and he's actually my
my a fourth, my fourth one pointer. So what we
can address that here in the second. But I feel
like no tackles for loss is more bold than one
and a half tackles for loss against a relatively stationary quarterback.
(15:50):
And they're in a running game that can be tackled
at the line of scrimmage, so it certainly could be
tackled behind it. So I'm going to go with no
tackles for laws, which should make the Texas A and
M fans happy, and the Miami fans. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm confused by who should be happy,
who should be angry. I just know everybody's angry anyway.
(16:11):
So I will say no tackles for lost, Tom. How
do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, Tony, I will tell you that was what I
was hotly trap. I was hoping you would fall into. Because,
according to CFB Film Room, Miami's offensive line in terms
of opponent adjusted pass protection, Miami allows fifty three percent
lower pressure rate relative to opponent's average pressure rate. That
is by far the best of any team in the
College Football Playoff. Thank you for falling into my trap
(16:39):
and coming to my dead talk.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And really, the Miami offensive line is one of the
reasons why I've I have a bold prediction with it,
but I didn't want to make it two stats heavy
because their offensive line is very, very good. So no
tackles for loss I expect him to. I mean, it
only takes one half. He only has to jump on
a pile here, and I think he can jump on
(17:02):
a pile just fine, So mine is clearly much more bold.
Cassius Holl As we just spoke about Tom. Do you
know where he spent his first two years in college?
By the way, was it pit? Nope? It was Bowling
Green University, where every good Northwest Ohio high school boy
(17:27):
learns to play uker.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So's he's from Missouri, but he probably does know how
to play uker.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh I was talking about myself. That's where I learned.
Cassius Hall forces a fumble in this game. He has
one or two on the season, and this as you
just said, we know the Miami offensive line. How was
he even gonna get to somebody with the ball? I
don't know, but I have him forcing a fumble in
(17:53):
this one. And it's the same as intercepting a pass.
It's just it's understood to be a one point. You
can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It is understood to be a one pointer, and it's related,
I think to one that I have because Tony, do
you know how many fumbles Miami has lost all season long,
the entire season, going back to before Labor Day, Labor
Day weekend against Notre Dame so long ago, how warm
it was, Tony, how young we were, how young going
(18:21):
back that far? How many fumbles has Miami lost this season?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I will say two.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
One fumble, one fumble lost all season long. So, Tony,
that is why it is so extremely bold to say
that they will lose one on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You with cash is how old?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He just needs to force one. Miami can jump on that,
and it's fine for me. Miami needs to fumble it
and also lose the fumble, for only.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Are recounting muffs? Are we counting muffs in this.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
If it shows up on the stat sheet as a
fumble like they I don't know if muffs show up
as fumble or not on the stat sheet. I'm going
purely by the statue here. I believe I don't leave
any ambiguity.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah yeah, well, Tom, I'll just remind you arrests are
not on the status sheet, so there will be some
ambiguity in this episode. Spoiler warning. So yeah, okay, Miami
will lose the fumble. Boy, Hurricane fans, you hear this,
hear this crap that he's saying about Hurricanes can't even
hold onto the ball. Carson Beck out there throwing in
(19:26):
completions and interceptions all over the place, specifically one as
Tom said, all right, here's one for me, my last
one pointer. There will not be a rush of longer
than seventeen yards in this.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Game, so that I was looking at something very similar
to that, because Miami Ohio State fans all year have
been saying, boy, the offense of the offense is just
the rushing game. It's okay, but it's just not very explosive.
And if if you look at Miami's running game compared
(20:02):
to compared to Ohio State's running game, Ohio State's running
game looks like it is the Darren McFadden Felix Jones
Arkansas team compared to compared to this year's Miami team.
Ohio State this year eight plays of thirty plus yards
and four plays of forty plus yards Miami this year.
(20:25):
Three rushes of thirty plus yards all season in the nation.
No rushes of forty plus yards for Miami. So now
it's got to go and check the got to go check.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
The long Can they tell you how many that they've allowed? Uh? Huh?
Is that what you're looking at? So Texas A and
M has allowed nineteen rushes of twenty yards or more
and Miami is allowed at eleven. So movable force, you know,
motionless object. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, long opponent long rushing plays. Let's see what where
Texas A, Texas A, and M actually rank in that
one hundred and third man.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It only takes one Malachai Tony.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So if you want, if you want to tell me Miami,
Miami's long run of the day is less than seventeen yards,
that would be okay. But if we're doing Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
A and M as well, both teams, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Probably so generous, Okay, So we're saying Miami will not.
Now you're trying to get me in trouble with these people.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Listen, I'm I'm I can only I can't help.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I can't help the hate in your heart.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, so Miami will have Well let's see, Okay, where
am I no rush longer than seventeen yards for Miami?
And that's just tom because they're throwing the ball down
to the Texas A and M sixteen and then rushing
the ball in on one carry every single time. That's
how I'm seeing this. So here's my final one pointer, and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Texas A and M has nine rushes of thirty plus
yards this year and five of forty plus, So yes,
that would be that would be overly generous.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
All right, So boy, let's see I have so many
good choices here.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I bet I had a bunch of extra ones because
I thought he's going to be an enormous pain, and
you're being less of a pain than normal, which is good.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm going to come. I'm gonna save some of my
Miami fans holster those weapons. I have some positive ones coming.
So I'm gonna end my one pointers with Texas A
and M. Wide receiver Ksey concepcione, Tony, He's gonna have
eighty five yards receiving and a touchdown. And I can
(22:43):
hear you saying, how bold is that? Well, Tony, it
is so bold that it has never happened this season.
It has never happened in the entire time he has
been a Texas A and m Aggie not once. He's
had more than that, more than eighty five yards twice
this season, but not scored a touchdown in either of
those games. He scored touchdowns in several games, but never
with that many yards.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean you're basically he's you're going above his
averages slightly enough. Yeah, so I will go ahead and
accept this. I mean he had eighty four yards in
a touchdown against Missouri.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh, what a coincidence. I'm picking introduce to that. Do
more than that, which has never happened, Tony, not once.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, that's fine. Again, this is friendly. This does not
count the standings. As we know, I have already secured
the season long championship. So yes, Casey.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Conception, that's probably accurate.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
But go on, please, we're in here now, Casey conception
on eighty five yards receiving any touch on? Now, Tom
I feel like I need We have not thrown any
caveats out there, We have not thrown any adjustments out
there in this show. So I feel like I should
tost something out there for the people, and let's just
(24:05):
do this. The first seventeen yard reception gets eliminated.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's okay, as long as the first thirty four yard
reception counts twice.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well, now, who's fallen into whose trap? Again? I can
I fall into two traps in the same show? Probably?
All right, the first seventeen yarder gets eliminated, but the
second seventeen yarder negates the entire thing, Like, no, does
not count. Any thirty four yards do not count?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
He has two seventeen yarders. Then that was a duplicate
thirty four yarders. That doesn't feel particularly likely to happen,
and it also feels overly complicated and wildly unnecessary. So
I feel like I'm compelled to allow.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So all right, perfect, perfect, And I'm not gonna type
all of that out. Yes, I'll review the show and
again police scanner afterwards. All right, my two pointer, something
that has not happened this season would be shocked if
it has happened before. Then I will say this time,
as everybody's talking about Ruben Bain and cash is how
(25:24):
the guy that continues to stand out for me is
a key Messador Miami defensive event. I have him down here.
Here's this time. At least two sacks for a key Messador.
A season high this year is one and a half.
That's for two points. At least two sacks for a
keen Messador. Congratulations to me on a winner.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, so I also have a key messador's game log up.
First of all, a key Messador made his made his
college debut while the Big ten was still not playing
football in twenty twenty, so he has been in college
for a hot minute. He has had one and a
half sacks twice this year. This feels like a tremendous
(26:03):
one pointer. I'm not sure it feels like a two pointer.
Let me check the.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The last time he had more than one and a
half sacks in the game was twenty twenty two. He
had three and a half against Virginia Tech, and then
he had two against Clemson, and then since then he
had one total. In twenty twenty three, he had five
and a half. Last year with no more than one
in a game, and then of course, this year he's
had one and a half against Notre Dame and against Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So again, this feels like a perfectly valid one pointer
for two points. It feels a little overly generous. So
we probably need to put some kind of a caveat
on this, and I will say that if the second
sack comes between the Texas A and M seventeen and
(26:59):
thirty four yard lines, it does not count. Just the
same if the first sack can the second sack cannot
come between the Texas A and M seventeen and thirty four.
I'm not being greedy and asking for both. I'm just
saying a seventeen yard piece of the one half the
field for the second set.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Okay, if second sack happens between A and M seventeen
and thirty four, it does not count.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And if you were now over and you're still listening,
for some inexplicable reason, about ninety five percent of these
shows is really all about Tony and I being able
to text each other and laugh at each other about
the extremely stupid caveats we have thrown on things that
have either made something happen or made something not happen,
(27:43):
which then we can hold over each other for the
rest of the weekend. That's really what this show is
all about. But people listen for some reason.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I don't know, all right, yeah, for some reason. And
then also we also receive feedback, like I'll get during
the game, I'll get like some people a tweet at me,
like some exclamation points or this or that, and it's like,
I don't know what this is about. Oh yes, the
bold predictions and something randomly stupid just happened, So all right,
I will agree to this. Tom. What is your two pointer?
(28:11):
That is you're you're you're pulling from your group of ones?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Okay, no, this is actually from This is actually from
my twos. Malachi Tony accounts for three touchdowns, which he
has never done before, and he must do it in
at least two ways. And he's only done that once
this season, and that was the pit game where he
threw and had a reception. So at least three touchdowns
(28:35):
in at least two ways.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And I also have Malakai Tony, but I didn't want
to do that because it felt too obvious because he
just did it the last time they played.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
With the two What towns I must do? I watched
the whole game, and I only saw two, so then
he did.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm just saying, I'm saying the two ways, Tom, and
this is for two points.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
This is for two points.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Which is why we're sort of harlaying two things here,
one that has not happened at all, one that has
only happened once.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yes, and we know because my I was looking at
what kind of three pointers should I do do with
Malachi Tony and then it starts to get a little
bit ridiculous with all of the different ways that he
gets involved with the game. So this I'm wondering how
(29:25):
many touchdowns are there going to be in this game?
For mine? There may only be three, or there may
be six, and so I.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Am expecting this to be a relatively low scoring game.
And also I just saw a stat that I think
the last nine games going back to Championship weekend and
the first round of like the the Army Navy game
and the first few Bowl games, all of them have
gone under. So it feels like the trend has generally
been towards the under. So that's, uh, that's one of
(29:54):
my that's my thinking there.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Well, I like that you can pull out a stat
and be like I think I just saw I'm gonna
start doing that inciting Facebook. I saw I saw this
story on Facebook about did you see this? Cassius Howell
rescued an elephant in a flood and then he gave
it to an orphanage. Have you seen this? So I'm
gonna how can you go against Cassius Howel on this
when he rescued an orphanage in a flood and gave
(30:18):
them an elephant? So tom I will agree with this.
Three touchdowns, two different ways, two different ways. And that
was mal chay TONI was there anything else to that one?
It was just that simple, right, that was it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And I'm trying to find the tweet by searching under
bowls and got a tweet from eggnog and Joyer, who
has a picture of a toilet paper roll says, find
out one of my good buddies is an underguy. Not
sure how much longer I can keep this up, which is,
you know, tough, but.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Fair, fair, fair, fair, All right, tom My three pointer
something that I don't believe is ever happen, and certainly
not in college football history. Malachai Tony, Miami wide receiver,
true freshman. We'll throw an interception in this game.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So what I no, I I I'm not gonna fight
you on and I'm just I'm just sort of thinking
through because he's going to throw maybe two passes at
the most, which doesn't give you Brown afproch your opportunities.
And we ut to remember Texas A and MS defensive
acts playing with those pringles cans on their hand, which
(31:38):
is really gonna make things complicated. I feel like I
kind of have to allow this one because it's a
you know, I don't he has not thrown an interception
this year.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I don't believe crag No.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
He is four of six. All six of those passes
have come in the last four games. Yeah, he's thrown
two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's like about zero point seven Michael wileys, which is
the scale that we measure all running back or non
quarterback passing by. If you don't know who Michael Wiley is,
google the late nineties Ohio State running back Michael Wiley,
who was what like six or six passing for like
four touchdowns and just absolutely unstoppable on the running back
(32:18):
pass that's still to be to be zero point seven.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Michael Wiley's is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, I think I you know, to be in line
with my earlier take on the likelihood of Texas A
and M intercepting Carson back, I think I have to
allow this one.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
So I will allow that one.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Which is interesting because this is another one where you've
got a guy, a notable Miami player, getting involved in
a play in a way that you wouldn't necessarily expect.
So Tony Rubin Bayin participates in a scoring play. Now,
I don't anticipate him on offense, but look, if they
put him in at running back for the refrigerator Perry,
(33:00):
I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm going to accept that. I have no indication that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
They've ever done that, but if they do, I'm gonna
take it. However, he could return an interception, he could
force a fumble that is recovered for a touchdown. He
could recover a fumble for a touchdown. Or he could
participate in a safety in some way with a tackle
for loss, a sack drawing a penalty in the end zone.
But he participates Reuben Bain in a scoring.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Play, I'm not going to fight you on this one.
I'm just really looking really quickly to see if he
as any rushes or catches as has a hefty tight end.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
So we're talking forcing a fumble, recovering a fumble, like
if you force a fumble and somebody else runs it in.
Are you are recounting that one?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
If Yeah, he participates in a scoring play. Now I'm
and I'm I can just tell you. I'm looking he
has not recorded a safety in his career. He has
not had an interception for a touchdown in his career.
I don't think he's I can't find that. They don't
have forced fumbles on the page I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But well, I'll go ahead and allow this one out
of the Again, the understanding that this is a friendly
and we're trying to set a good example for the
Miami fans out there. So yes, great, you know what
great pick. I commend you on the bold prediction. Good
job all around. I think you've handled yourself very very
well throughout this. So now, Tom, and this is where
(34:22):
we try to give each other a point with we
hand over a bonus prediction. Tom, I'm going to my
bonus bold prediction for you. Carson back throws a completion
of at least seven yards.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
All right, that's that is fair. I will accept that,
accept that, thank you. How about this one. If he
plays in the game, and I have no reason to
expect that he will not. But if he plays in
the game, Malachai, TONI will be targeted for at least
one pass attempt.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Thank you, Tom malca I, Tony will be targeted at
least once. I will appreciate that, and I will take that.
And there you go. There's your bold prediction show. I
did not expect us to go this long because I
didn't expect figured we wouldn't be doing too much arguing
because we're trying to set a good example for the people.
(35:21):
But here we are. I feel pretty good about my picks.
I will The good news is you can just listen
to the scanner online and follow things that way.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You know what to do in m police department on
Twitter now, So.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
There you go. You follow those and be entertained, and
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(35:57):
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