BONUS: Buckeye Huddle Primetime - Does The Ohio State Offense Need An Overhaul

-After a shocking ejection from the playoffs Ohio State will evaluate everything. What will they do to replace Brian Hartline?

-Does "the Ohio State offense" need help from an outside voice?

-Will it be an internal hire?

-How did each coach do with his unit this year?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Tony Gerdaman here, I have a bonus episode
here for you. This is the most recent episode of
the Bucke Huddle Prime Time with Jock Maletti as he
is talking about the offense and doesn't need an overhaul
after the playoff loss. He asks what they will do
to replace Brian Hartline. Does the offense need an outside

(00:21):
voice and or will it be an internal internal hire
at offensive core coordinator. He discusses all of this and
I answer some questions from the livestream viewers. If you've
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(00:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Talk to y'all later. Hey, it's Juck. We are not
bemoaning the noon kickoff. We're now owning it. It's a
badge of honor. We're the lunatic fringe that defines our
coaches legacy when it comes to this game. They don't
get to define that outside the family who we're cut
from a different cloth. Bro Hiowan's he's got it all, man,
He's even got the jaw you know the jaw. You
see that jaw and you're just like, yeah, man, that's

(01:05):
a dude. Do I want Michigan to beat Oklahoma? No
way in hell. I don't know what world I'm living in.
This is insane to me. And if you saw my outburst,
I apologize. It's showtime now, it is showtime. Welcome Inn.
Appreciate you so much for joining me on Bucke Huddle primetime.

(01:27):
It has been a while since we've done a Bucke
Huddle primetime, since before Ohio State was forcefully ejected from
the playoffs by Miami. Called that one wrong. Guys called
that one wrong. I had twenty eight fourteen buck eyes.
You know. The beauty of the season ending so abruptly
when it did is the portal started immediately to kind

(01:48):
of take our minds off of that, which gives us
an opportunity to both get really excited about the potential
of new guys coming in also really angry about some
guys leaving. If you're the type that gets angry about
certain guys leaving, and certainly a lot of people have.
But there are some exciting poral targets and we can
talk about them. If you guys got any that you

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want to talk about. If you have something that you
want me to read in the comments section, make sure
you hit the question mark. The buck Eye's coaching staff
want to look at them kind of positioned by position
as Cortes hanked in hired the as the wide receivers coach.
Biggest question now on the staff to me offensive coordinator

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going to be an internal hire? Going to be an
external hire? We will get to that today, but I'd
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(02:53):
So please please subscribe to the channel if you could. Oh,
hastate averages seventeen and a half. Guy that head out
of the program into the transfer portal every year, I
think every year come portal time, when we start seeing
the names pop into the portal, people forget that. But
when I looked at this roster ahead of time, I said,

(03:15):
I don't think they're going to hit that average this year, well,
they got seventeen so far. Definitely going to go over that,
so I was wrong about that, but certainly a different
kind of portal year so far. And I think what
we're seeing represents a bit of a philosophical change from
the Ohio State brass. We've never seen very highly rated

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guys or guys that were expected to potentially compete for
a starting job enter into the portal. Guys like Johnnie
Thurman and Milon Graham and Aaron Scott and Bryce West.
We've not seen guys like that head out. And I
think what we're seeing here is the reason we're not
going to see CJ. Hicks kind of guys anymore stick

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around through four years, having not played those guys, those
top fifty recruits, each one of those guys, Bryce West,
Aaron Scott, Mylon Graham, top fifty guys heading into year three.
And if you are one of those guys rolling into
year three and you don't make the coaching staff confident

(04:21):
that you can be a high level starter and you
want to be paid like a starter, the answer there is,
as a coaching staff, I can go pay somebody out
of the portal that I know in fact can start
at a high level because I can see it on
his film, or I can pay this guy that, and
I'm not quite sure he can. And I think in

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the past, Ohio State used to defer to the continuity
and the development of keeping those guys in the roster,
keeping them in the fold. But now that money it's
gotten a lot higher, it's spread a lot more thin.
And you also don't have the spring portal, and I
don't think you can take the chance anymore. I don't
think you can take the chance to roll the dice

(05:04):
that these guys. Look Aaron Scott got beat by Devin Sanchez, right,
got beat by a kid younger than in Bryce West
has been in the defense as long as Lorenzo Styles.
He had every opportunity to win that job and make
you more confident. Didn't get on the field much. And
I know there's a lot of people really irritated about this,
and I get it, but I don't know what you

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expect Ohio State to do in this situation. They got
to go bring in guys they're confident that can start.
The Milon Graham thing really surprised a lot of people.
Milond Graham, a five star wide receiver who is a
tremendous athlete. We watched him in the spring game. The
guy moves like a deer, tremendous athlete without the ball
in his hands or with the ball in his hands,

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so you got to catch the ball first. We didn't
see a whole lot of that. Did not see Milon
Graham when he had the opportunity catching a whole lot
of footballs. The one game I think that he got
a really big audition was the UCLA game and the
wrong routes. And this is a guy that got the
Ryan Day kiss of death over the year when Ryan
Day says in press conferences things about a guy like

(06:09):
he's been practicing better lately. Kiss of death, man, the
guy's gone. Saw it this year with Jilani, saw it
with Mike mc graham. If he says that about you
keep that in mind. You ever hear him say that
that dude's out of here, That dude's gone. We also
saw him get passed over by David Adolph a walk on,
So not too heartbroken over that, though. I won't be

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surprised if we do see him pop off somewhere at
his next stop in a couple of years. But you
can't afford to keep a guy like that around making
good money, because a five star at that kind of
ranking is going to demand good money. He's not gonna
get it from you, He's gonna get it from someone else.
If he's not producing it, he's not in the plans. Now,
we did see a couple of guys move on that

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have found a new destination already, starting with Lincoln Keenholes,
who is going to be at Louisville with Jeff Brahm.
I think it's a great spot for him, and I
think that there's going to be a whole lot of
Buckeye fans rooting for him. That's a guy who probably
the best guy to give him a shot at making
it to the NFL as a quarterback. Louisville also a

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team that shows up on a lot of like Thursday
night games, so we'll get to watch him and that's
pretty fun. Hicks has decided to go with Heartline down
to South Florida. That's probably a really good destination for
him too, to be able to get on the field
in the group of six and potentially show out. So

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I'm sure everybody wishes him the best as well. But
when we look at that Ohio State class of twenty
twenty four, the guys that just finished their second year.
There are now eleven out of the twenty two signees
who have exited out of the program. There's a couple
more in there that might leave two. And I think
we're going to roll in to next season with more

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than half of that class gone, which is unbelievable. And
I think that what we're seeing now, Ohio State was
able to hold off these issues longer than anybody else.
We talked about this NonStop. You know, the culture of
Ohio State. We've not seen the crap that a lot

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of other programs have had to deal with. And now
we're at the point where it's caught up to Ohio
State and it was always gonna and it's a lot different.
It's a lot different. It feels weird. What is the
best strategy moving forward? You know, if we look at
the Ohio State class that they just signed, the one
that get just signed, I think that I would have

(08:37):
done things a little differently had I known this was
coming this year. I think I might have done things
a little differently. And maybe we'll talk about what might
be done differently in the future. On Wednesday show. But
today I want to talk about that ejection from the playoffs.
Want to talk about that Miami game in the end
of the season before we get into these coaches a season. Look,

(09:03):
the season ended with an undefeated regular season and a
win against Michigan. And I think when we talked at
the beginning of the year, if I just said, based
on the expectations, if we can get out of this
with a regular season, undefeated, winning ann arbor or would
you take it? Would you sign up? I think a
lot of us would have signed up and said, yeah,

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give me that, I'll take that. Coming off a national
championship season in a year that looked like somewhat of
a rebuilding year in twenty six looked like the year
that maybe you were going to make the run at
the national championship. Well, you had everything kind of come
together in a way that maybe you didn't project it
would come together as quickly. You had guys really pop

(09:45):
off in maybe a way you didn't expect them to
pop off. And as you see that, your goals change,
and your goals changed, because then you realize, all right,
twenty six isn't going to be the year because a
lot of these guys are going to be gone to
the NFL that we thought would have been around in
twenty six. So the goals changed from twenty six being
that target year to twenty twenty five is actually that year.

(10:06):
They're going to have a run to win a national
championship again in twenty twenty five. And your goals change,
your expectations change, and then you get to the end
and it's a huge bummer. You didn't reach the expectations.
I thought for sure this team was a Final four
team and they don't get there, and that's a real bummer.

(10:29):
But looking back at the season, forgetting how it all ended,
it's a pretty successful season. It's a pretty successful year,
and it certainly certainly won that. After some time passes
and you forget the way it ended, you probably feel
pretty good about it. I think, right maybe you will.
I don't know. I'm trying to talk myself into that.

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But I want to talk about the ten questions that
I had before that Miami game, because I just stumbled
upon them right before I was about to start the show.
I want to go over these ten questions pregame. I
do ten questions A lot of people do, like bold predictions, right,
I do ten questions and then I go over in
the postgame show and I answer the questions. I've not

(11:11):
talked about this game since I did a twenty minute
reaction video immediately after the game. And immediately after the game,
we're all very emotional, so it wasn't organized enough to
answer my ten questions that I usually answer in the
postgame show. But I want to go over him now because,
to be honest, I'm done talking about the portal today.

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It's just been a lot of portal stuff. So question
number one, would Cad and Curry pop off? Would Caad
and Curry pop off? Watching Cayden Curry all year was
an absolute treat. He was a maniac. And when we
see Cayden Curry pop off early in a game, we
know there's more coming. We saw it against Indiana, and

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if Cayden and Curry was going to pop off on Miami,
I didn't think there was any way Miami could have
won that game. And Kad and Curry doesn't just get
shut down the entire game, but he goes after the
game and gets interviewed, and I get it. He's upset
lost his last game at Ohio State, but he said

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something that I can't stand when our players say, and
I think it's disrespectful. You know, we'd have won this
game nine out of ten times, something to that effect
that it's not a direct quote, but that's what he said,
nine out of ten times we would have won the game.
And I don't know what game he was playing in,
but the game I watched, Ohio State wasn't winning nine
out of ten times. Wasn't happening at all. They got

(12:38):
their butts whooped at the line of scrimmage and cad
and Curry was part of that as he was pretty
much look, he got close to the quarterback one time
one time. It was a pretty lousy performance, and that's
a bad look when you come out and say that afterwards.
Question number two Edric Houston. We came into this season

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a lot of us, myself included, thinking that Edric Houston
was going to roll into this year with the pedigree
that he had and the way he finished his freshman
year after moving inside from edge, that he was going
to be a pretty rock solid three tech And unfortunately
that is not what happened. Edrick was I feel like

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lost some confidence, wasn't playing good early in the year
was kind of getting manhandled even against Mac teams. The
Ohio game might have been his worst and he lost
his starting role, lost his starting job to Time Alone,
who thankfully took the next step this year for himself
in his final year. But Edric comes on a little

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later in the year. And my question was, Edric Houston,
would he give us confidence heading into year three that
he would be the guy? That he would be the guy?
He made some big plays against Miami, he had some
really bad plays. Again, when we look at next year's
roster with Edric Houston, Jarques Carter, freshman, Damari Simeon, Jason Moore,

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how do you feel about this group? How confident are
you in Edrick's starting How confident are you in those backups?
I don't feel great about it, certainly not from that game.
And I'm thinking I'm kind of hoping that a three
Tech comes in the portal. We do have some visitors
at three Tech and I'm happy about that. Question number three,

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Miami's wide receivers. Could the buck Eyes shut down those
Miami's wide receivers. If they did, I thought they'd win.
Now they shut him down, they didn't win. Question number four,
could they hold Mark Fletcher under four yards of carry,
They definitely did not. They did not. In fact, we
all talked about Sonny in his entire season that he

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had not had a mistackle, right, and that was an
unbelievable stat And we talked about the matchup with Ohio
State playing a lot out of the Penny front, the
five man front, with just Sonny as a linebacker. What
it does is create a matchup where Sonny meets a
linebacker meets a running back in a hole one on one.

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And I'm sitting here talking before the game saying, look,
if you're gonna give me Sonny versus Mark Fletcher, I'll
take it all day. Sonny hasn't missed a tackle all year.
And literally the very first carry, Mark Fletcher smacks into
Sonny styles and Sonny bounces right off of him, and
there goes the streak. Sonny gives up his first mistackle.

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And while they did a pretty good job holding Mark
Fletcher down, still didn't hold him under four yards of carry.
Julian's saying over or under four twenty plus yard passes
over the year. He averaged three point three balls over
twenty yards. My thought was that Ohio State would definitely

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win this game if he was over that mark. And
he ended up taking seven shots down the field of
over twenty yards, converted on three of them, and it
turns out that might have been too many. Number six
and seven will roll these in together. Phil Daniels and
Gabe Van Sickle obviously two guys well, Gabe coming in

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for Tegra. Phil Daniels did not play good against against Indiana,
did not play good against Purdue or Wisconsin, one of
those two where he gave up like a six pressures
the team gave up eleven and doesn't do good with movement,
doesn't do good with a lot of movement at all.
But also when he's facing a really good pass rusher,

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he doesn't do good on an island really good run blocker.
But immediately right off the rip, Miami puts Bain and
Mesadora on the same side, right in front of those two.
It was bad. It was feel real bad, and that
Miami dominated those guys for the first half. Van Sickle

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makes it one half. I thought that was too long.
I thought Ohio State waited way too long to go
to Padilla. He definitely was not ready for that stage.
And you know you can say a lot of things
about how that was handled all year. Should he have
been playing more earlier on probably, but a lot to
talk about with that offensive line, a lot to talk

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about with Tyler Bowen moving on into next year. Question
number eight the JJ factor. We heard JJ talking behind
the mic before this game. JJ was super excited to
play his guys, and my question was, would JJ just
turn it on and go Superman and absolutely destroy worlds,
because he's certainly capable of that, and he kind of did.

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He kind of did in the game. He was also
responsible for a pick six and another miss block before that,
where he just wasn't really didn't appear to be given
on his all out effort, wasn't getting chippy like he
said he would, And turns out he's just human. Question
number nine with Ohio State, at least force a stalemate

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on special teams, I don't need them to win special teams.
I just need them to force a stalemate. We all
know this. Unfortunately, this thing I don't even want to
talk about ever, is somehow consistently a conversation with our
favorite team, Special teams always a conversation would they just

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force a stalemate? Would we not see things like James
Peoples bringing a kickoff out of the end zone to
the fifteen yard line. Would we not see a penalty
on a punt that forces them to repunt and loses
twenty yards of field position in a very crucial moment
in the game. Would we not see them miss a

(18:55):
crucial field goal while Miami makes their crucial field goal
and Ryan Day rolled out Jaden Fielding again. And I
don't care if Jaden Fielding makes ninety percent of his
field goals in practice and Jackson Corville only makes seventy.
What we know, we've established as fact, Jaden Fielding could

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not kick under pressure and you rolled him out again
and Miami made theirs. So no, there was absolutely not
a stalemate in special teams once again in a big
game for Ryan Day's team. Cannot believe it, man, I
just can't believe that you can't force a stalemate in
special teams. Final question, the final question. And I asked

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this one for weeks leading into the Indiana game, and
this look. Everybody made excuses about this for the Indiana game.
But Ryan Day came out and said, when it's time
to step on the gas, we will step on the gas.
Didn't happen in the Indiana game, and people were telling me, well,
it didn't happen because he really meant the playoffs, this
one's not important enough. And the question about stepping on

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the gas that he was asked on that show, the
Pat McAfee Show, was in regards to how he chose
to play offense the entire year, slow, methodical, very low possessions,
and it felt like in a lot of the games
they were playing with one hand behind their back and
saying they didn't want to play for style points. They

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weren't worried about that. They're worried about the amount of plays.
And my concern was, if you play like this the
entire season, when you go to turn on the gas,
the car is going to sputter because you practice how
you play, and you play how you practice, and when
you treat many of your games like practice. By the way,
I hated the schedule. I thought this schedule was a

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huge disadvantage for Ohio State. To have a schedule with
so many games in a row at the end of
the year when you're such a huge favorite, creates bad habits,
and the coaching staff quite honestly treated them like scrimmages
tried a lot of different things. You know, you had
the whole tight end stuff coming back at the end
of the year again and the entire philosophy of playing slow,

(21:09):
not beating people down, not having a killer instinct offensively,
never running tempo. When you play like that all year
and you don't play any of that all year, you
don't have confidence when you need it when it matters most.
And in the end, when it was all said and done,
stepping on the gas was twenty four points in the
final two games. So no, they definitely could not step

(21:32):
on the gas. And I hated this offensive philosophy from
the beginning. I think it is the I don't think.
I know it is the antithesis of how you should
play as the more talented team. A lot of people
praised it as genius. A lot of people praised it
as genius. Who I'm now hearing say, maybe that wasn't

(21:53):
the best idea. No, it's a terrible idea. And it's cool. Well,
if you get to the National championship game and you
guys are a little more arrested than your opponent, but
you also got to get to the National Championship game
where you did it all for nothing, And as it
turns out, they did it all for nothing. People told

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me I was an idiot for not seeing the vision.
It's a bad strategy, man. If you want to arrest
your starters, pull them early, pull them earlier. I'll also
say this, if you play a game when you are
shrinking the game with very limited possessions, you better have
a good field goal kicker because he's a lot more important.

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Now you've made him a lot more important. And Ohio
State had an opportunity in the portal today to sign
their number one portal target at kicker, and they didn't
sign him. They let him walk. He goes to Texas
A and M. He wanted more money than they were
willing to pay him. I think that's a mistake, particularly
if you're going to plan on playing like this. That

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remains to be seen though. But people talking about the
strategy working in twenty twenty four, you know what worked
in twenty twenty four. An excellent ground attack. That's what worked.
Two NFL running backs, That's what worked. Running the ball
to open up your passing game. That's what worked. And
that's not the offense they had this year. The strength

(23:18):
of their offense this year was throwing the football. They
didn't play to their strengths. Julian Sayan should have been
a four thousand yard passer. Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate
should have had fifteen hundred yards a piece. That's what
this offense should have looked like all year. And not
only do they not play to their strength all year,
they goofed around in five or six separate games with

(23:41):
the ridiculous amounts of thirteen and fourteen personnel. And as
far as the plan to beat Miami, we talked about
this last week. The plan to beat Miami was not
to pick on their cornerbacks long That wasn't the plan.
You never had the protection to be able to do that.
The plan was the Louisville plan. We literally talked about

(24:04):
this on the last show, the Highlights of the Louisville game.
They beat Miami by getting the ball out of Miller
Moss's hands fast on timing routes, slants, quick outs. We
saw almost none of that, almost none of it. The
defensive lineman for Miami had no chance to get to

(24:25):
Miller Moss because the ball was already gone. Ohio State's
game plan and they showed it to us early, was
long developing routes going deep. Now, when you saw early
that that wasn't gonna work, Why wasn't there a pivot
to the Louisville game plan? Why no pivot? Poor adjustments?

(24:46):
Couldn't adjust during the game, they adjusted at halftime. I
don't know why you need to wait to halftime. I
don't know why. What's the deal with that? Why do
you need to wait to halftime to adjust things that
should not be the case when the head cut coach,
an experienced head coach, is the guy on the sticks.
They knew Miami was a bad matchup for them up front.

(25:08):
It was blatantly obvious what you needed to do to
counteract that pass rush. Why didn't they do it? And
it just sucks, man, It all sucks so bad because
it feels like you let one of the best defenses
in school history slip away and you don't even make
the final four. But what really sucks for me is

(25:30):
the entire year I've been saying that I want Georgia.
I want Georgia. I want Ohio State Georgia. I don't
care what round it's in, because I want Ryan Day
to have the opportunity to beat Kirby Smart and take
over the mantle officially as the best head coach in
college football, because that's what I thought he was, and

(25:51):
I've been saying it all year long, and after watching
the decisions that he made with this offense the year,
and the way he chose to do that run this
Ferrari like it was going through a school zone, and
then the way I just watched his coaching staff get
out coached in the final two games of the year
when it mated when it mattered most. I can't say

(26:14):
that honestly to myself anymore. He's a very good head coach.
He's my head coach. I like him being my head coach.
But he's not the best coach. He's not. He's a
national championship coach. He's not better than Kirby. He's not.
So it sucks, man, the whole thing sucks. He was

(26:36):
not the same guy that came out in the playoffs
last year with his back against the wall. You remember
that speech he gave at the beginning of the Tennessee game.
You remember the face he had on when he came
out against Tennessee. We didn't see that guy. We didn't
see that guy, And now it's over no sense of
urgency at all in the second half of that game,

(26:56):
Like what was that three possessions in the second half
of that game, And this is after they do a
two minute drill at halftime, right before halftime, which was
the only way they could move the ball, and they
moved it right up the field and they never ran
any tempo in the second half. And he was asked
about it after the game and said, oh, you know,

(27:21):
we did it here and there and it wasn't working.
What are you talking about? And he didn't unless his
definition of what that is is vastly different from the
rest of ours. No, you did not. You did not.
But we move on to the following season, and as

(27:41):
we are now in the offseason already, how he decides
to handle what he's going to do offensively could change
everything and change everything really quick. And the biggest question
right now the offensive coordinator is this going to be
a in higher, in house higher or is he going
to go outside the program. I hadn't really considered for

(28:03):
a second that this was going to be an in
house hire, but I've been seeing a lot of people
talk about that recently. Saw it on social media, heard
somebody else mention it in media, and then I'm like,
do people really think this is going to be an
in house hire potentially potentially a Keenan Bailey or a

(28:24):
combination of Keenan and Tyler Bowen, because I don't think
that's an option. And some people were saying, well, he
hired Cortes, hanked in at wide receiver coach, and we'll
talk about Cortes. That makes him the tenth accountable coach.
And that's true, but that doesn't mean you can't hire
an offensive coordinator. The rule now, unlike before and this

(28:45):
has been this was the rule last year. What do
we see last year? We saw coming into this year,
Ohio State hires a couple of extra offensive line coaches
because now they don't have to pay Chip Kelly. You
got heart line. Your offensive coordinator is also your wide
receiver coach. So the Chip Kelly salary goes off the
coaches pool. Now we can take that money and parlay

(29:08):
it into replacing Justin Fry with Tyler Bowen and bring
in Marcus Johnson and Charlie Dickey to help him on
the offensive line. You only got ten countable coaches. That
can travel and recruit, but you can pay as many
coaches as you want. And for all the irritation a

(29:29):
lot of Ohio State fans have about what Ohio State
does or does not spend with player acquisition, one thing
that we always can be grateful for is when it
comes to coaches. They don't skimp. They don't skimp on
the coaches pool, they don't skimp on paying the head
coach coordinators, something we never have to worry about, and
a lot of schools do. So that's a big time benefit.

(29:52):
And I absolutely think that this offensive coordinator higher is
coming from outside the building. But if it doesn't, who
that would be? Rough Man? An internal hire. I think
that we see a lot of people who cover the
team or like when Heartline was first announced to USF,

(30:16):
I feel like I heard everybody say Keenan Bailey will
step into the wide receiver code. I didn't think that
was happening for a second. I don't think that. I
think it's a very important situation when you are rolling
from the greatest position coach ever into his replacement, that
you got someone that the next dude's coming in have

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some chops, right, You got to have chops and yes,
Keenan Bailey knows how to coach wide receiver. But if
I'm that seventeen year old at Keenan who like I,
I'm sorry, you're just not the dude that it's going
to impress me. And Cortes Hankton is a guy who
has an undrafted free agent played sick in the NFL.

(31:01):
That's maybe more impressive than a guy who got drafted
in the first round. So yeah, that dude who just
coached twelve years in the SEC at LSU and Georgia.
I never thought that was gonna be Keenan. Last year
we saw it with the defensive coordinator. We heard NonStop
that it was probably gonna be Matt Gerary and Tim

(31:22):
Walton some combination there, and Ryan Day went out both
outside the program for both of those hires. I think
the same thing will happen here off as a coordinator.
And what do we think here as far as who's
that gonna be, I have no clue. I think one
thing Day has shown us is number one, he's done
a really good job hiring really good job. Number Two,

(31:45):
we never know who it's gonna be. Any kind of
stupid hot board people put together. It's never anybody even close.
But I think that he understands that conceptually he needs
something at here. He needs somebody who brings in something
that he doesn't have. Keenan Bailey's learned everything he knows

(32:06):
from Ryan Day. When we look at Chip Kelly, he
comes in. Yeah, Ryan Day is from the Chip Kelly tree,
but Chip picked up a lot more in the time
they were apart, and Chip brought in a lot of
new stuff. Bill O'Brien would have brought in a lot
of new stuff. And Ryan Day's offense is the Ohio
State offense, and Ryan Day needs help. The offense is lacking.

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The offense is stale, it needs new concepts. And we
see this with every guy who we consider at one
point a great offensive mind. We see it with every
single guy. They get surrounded by their guys for a
long time and it gets stale eventually. And we saw

(32:49):
it with Urban Meyer, who was at one point thought
to be an offensive revolutionary guy and the big loss
against Clemson, and all of a sudden he's looking for
help and he brings in Ryan Day to add to
his offense. And to me, we're at that point now.

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Ryan Day needs an outside influence to assist him in
moving this offense forward. And if he were not to
hire an outside offensive coordinator here, if it was an
internal hire, that would not happen. It would be the
absolute worst thing for this program. In my mind, I'd
be devastated if I heard that, because the guys in
charge are the guys who just coached that game against Miami,

(33:34):
which they thought, keep in mind, against Indiana and Miami,
that they had a really good plan going in. That's
what they thought. They've said that I don't think they did.
I don't think they did. And I think that we're
going to see Ryan Day hire an outside offensive coordinator,
and I think that we're going to see him make

(33:56):
another big push here as he finishes what I think
going into the final chapter of his career as Ohio
States head coach. He's been the head coach at Ohio
State for seven years now. That is how long Urban
Meyer was the head coach at Ohio State, and he
was even here two years prior to that, nine years
at one place. Seven years as the head coach at

(34:17):
a place like this a pressure cooker that ages you,
Like the president, I think he's entering into the final
chapter the next three to five years, the final chapter
of his tenure as Ohio State's head coach. He needs
some help. He knows that. And I think that we're
going to see an interesting hire at offensive coordinator. And

(34:39):
I think that he does not want to babysit at
offensive coordinator. When we look at what Heartline did this year,
Ryan Day was babysitting, no doubt about it. And you
do that in the payoff when you promote somebody internally,
the payoff is year two because year one, I've now
taught you how to do everything perfectly. Now you know everything,

(35:01):
year two, I can step back and you can run it.
Ryan didn't get year two because Heartline left before year
one was over. To be quite frank, and that's a
real bummer man. And some people will point to that
as one of the reasons why this all kind of derailed,

(35:22):
went off the rails, and maybe they're right. I don't
know how much it had to do with it. I
just know that before before the final two games, my
thought was, I feel better about Ryan Day coaching plays,
so I'm good with this. Whatever it didn't turn out
that way. It didn't turn out that way, but let's
go over right now, the coaching staff, starting with Matt Patricia,

(35:44):
who getting some NFL interest Maybe what's he going to do?
Certainly had a great first year at Ohio State, also
had great talent to work with. Also ended very poorly. Right,
It was a terrible game by him. His defense didn't
give up a lot of points, but it wasn't anything

(36:07):
like what we had seen them play before. They could
get off the field against anybody. They couldn't when it
mattered against Miami, which was a very basic offense that
they should have been able to. Quite frankly, they should
have been able to get off the field. They couldn't.
Gave way too much free stuff to Carson Beck. And
regardless of that, Yeah, you want to back, where is

(36:28):
he gonna go? I don't know, I don't know. He
seems to be a guy that has a super affinity
for the NFL. If he gets offered a defensive coordinator position,
I would bet that he'd probably take it. You know,
we talk about these guys and settling down, and you know,
this guy seems like he feels comfortable, who wants to
move and all that. Like these dudes are just a

(36:48):
transient bunch man. When you have had as many jobs
in as many different towns as these guys have. I
don't put it by any of them to move, even
if they look comfortable. Hopefully he's Hopefully you can at
least get two years out of everybody, and I hope
that Ryan Day is now starting to get the two
year commitment like Urban used to. When we look at

(37:10):
the secondary, when we look at McCrary, how did mccrary's
safeties perform this year? Excellent, He'll be back next year.
His recruiting class with Blaine Bradford and Kamari bing Simeon
Caldwell's excellent cornerback Tim Walton Igb played great this year

(37:31):
and Walt got the penalties out of him. No more
penalties for Igb. Dude was fantastic all year. Hate seeing
him go. Jermaine Matthews in his first year as the
official starter, it was okay. It wasn't as good as
I thought it was going to be, admittedly, and I
do love main Man, but you know, it wasn't perfect.

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Definitely not off to the NFL. He'll be back. When
we look at his recruiting class with Jay Timmins, Matthews
very good but fell short of his numbers again, wanted
to get a third, did not get a third. And
when we go back now, because he's only taken two
every year, when we look at the class of twenty three,
twenty four, and twenty five, the only guys he's still

(38:15):
got out of those classes are Jermaine Matthews and Devin Sanchez.
All the rest are gone, all of them and now
the cornerback room has to go spend some money in
the portal to replace him because Aaron Scott and Bryce
West didn't give them confidence that they could pay them
the money and they would be top tier starters at linebacker.
A fantastic job by James Laurniitis, albeit with players he

(38:38):
didn't recruit, but a fantastic job this year. His recruiting
class sincere Johnson, cj SONA Braxton, Rembert good and it's
kind of like the down year without the super big investment.
Next year, I think they'll invest more in the linebacker
room with Quintin Ceipher, and I think they're going to
get another top ten linebacker as well, but a loaded room.

(39:03):
Do you need a transfer? Do you feel comfortable relying
on Peyton Pierce, Riley Pettijohn tj. Alford is your next
three up. There's a big lack of experience. There remains
to be seen whether or not they're going to bring
in a linebacker to assist those guys defensive line. Very
good job by Larry this year. Could we hear news

(39:25):
about Larry in his future? It's interesting the contract's over.
Does he re up for another two seventy three years old?
Now still recruiting guys for the class of twenty seven.
Just landed the number one defensive end of the country.
Do we hear something about that anytime soon? We could

(39:48):
maybe not a lot of times they don't say anything
about it because they know it's a big talking point.
But the line this year, the defensive line played very well. Obviously,
Kate mcda was a wrecking ball. Kedn Curry was a
wrecking ball. Edric Houston needs to continue to improve. And
Kenyatta Jackson. Will he be back? Will he be back?

(40:10):
Will he go to the NFL? Some people are trying
to float that potentially he goes into the portal. I
would be shocked if that happened at this point. I
would not have been shocked if it happened two years
ago or last year. If he went into the portal, Now, wow,
that would be something. When we talk about the recruiting class,

(40:32):
love it. You got Kry Wilder, who I think is
the next great defensive lineman at Ohio State, dre Quinn
the other defensive end, and on the inside four defensive tackles,
and Damari Simeon, Darius McKinley at three Tech, Emmanuel Ruffin
and Jamie Perez at one Tech. Love it. The problem

(40:54):
is there were a couple of years where you got well,
for instance, to the Edric Houston class. Right, Dominic Kirk's
now gone, just Edric Houston. That's it. So we're looking
at this class of twenty twenty six with six defensive linemen.
That class had one. So you've got some old dudes
that you hope they stay, like Kenyata, and then you

(41:16):
go down to the second year guys like Ziggie Grady
and ePIE Saitani Lay there's a big lack of experience,
and now you've got to pay some guys on the
defensive line. In fact, I think that that is the
biggest need for the Tier one A money. If let's
say I can I can go three guys deep with
big money guys. I'm taking two of those guys on

(41:38):
the defensive line. That's that's where I think you need
it the most on this roster. On the offensive side
of the ball. Tyler Bowen in year number one, year
number one, he's gonna lose Marcus Johnson. He's going down
to Arkansas. Charlie Dickey most likely stays with him. How
did Tyler Bowen do in your number one? And I

(41:59):
think they made some good decisions. I think they made
some not so good decisions. I would have loved to
see Ian Moore play more. I thought he was excellent
against Wisconsin when Phil Daniels was out. He played right
tackle that game. I thought he certainly earned to at
least do a little bit of a rotation type deal
like they've been doing it guard for two years. Not

(42:20):
sure why we never saw that. Did not see Ian
Moore again until against Miami, and he came in against
Miami and proved once again that he's a dog. I
feel great about him now. Phil Daniels was a bit
of a revelation. Didn't seem like he was a guy
who could start. Looked like he was gonna need another

(42:41):
year of development. But he comes in and he starts,
and he did pretty damn good. He did good. If
you're not gonna bring in any big time transfers to
this line, and if you can get Sarahvell to stay,
I think Kin's been staying. Luke is staying. When you
look at right tackle and you look at right guard,

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I don't know if the best system, and I said
it after Wisconsin, is to put Ian at tackle and
move Phil Daniels to right guard. He's not good in space,
but he's a road grading run blocker, and to me,
that's a great fit. It's a great fit, and it's
the best you got with the personnel on the line
right now. That's without bringing in anybody, but you know,

(43:28):
if they do, you know, the more the merry, you're sure.
As far as the recruiting class, you got four Ohio
dudes and one three star from Arizona. That's who he
brought in. However, two of those Ohio dudes, Sam Greer
and Max Riley, very high level prospects. So you don't
want to discount that. And it was an abbreviated class,

(43:48):
but you want to see more in class number two
out of Tyler Bone. As far as the coaching itself,
not good enough, not good enough the last couple of games,
that's for sure. But year number one, a lot of
people have said they want Tyler Bowen fired. Not good enough?
And why did Ryan Day hire a guy who hasn't
been an offensive line coach for ten years. I just

(44:11):
got a lot of trust in him. It's just a
very intelligent guy, and I just feel like he'll get
it together. Tough to want to pull the trigger on
somebody after one year. Carlos Laughlin at running backs coach,
brings in transfer CJ. Donaldson in the portal. And when
we look around Donaldson's level in the portal, guys that
kind of cost the same. You could have had Keewan Lacy,

(44:34):
You could have had a Mott Hardy big miss there, right,
You could have picked better. But you did get some
value out of CJ. Donaldson. Just wasn't the best choice.
James Peoples can't really put that on him. He wasn't
ready and he wasn't his recruit. He did recruit Bo
Jackson and Isaiah West who were ready to go. He
had him ready to go. Bo rushed for one thousand yards,

(44:57):
just the fifth Ohio State freshman to do that. Isaiah
the best on the team at forcing miss tackles, lacks
that breakaway speed, but a really effective back who's gonna
continue to be an effective back here at Ohio State.
And you get local layup in this class favor a
key and legend Bay who is not sure how much

(45:21):
we're going to see him as a running back, but
Locke led the charge recruiting him. And then you got
Keenan Bailey who brought in Max Claire as a transfer.
Developed Will Kasmerrick from year one to year two that
got a lot better. Nate Roberts was his big commit
in the class of twenty twenty five, and Nate ended

(45:43):
up having to play half of his snaps at full back. Now,
I think Nate's a dude. I think Nates a dude,
and I think everybody there's a lot of people who
have knocked Nate this year because of the fullback stuff.
This guy just doing what his team asks of him.
He's not a fullback, did his best. I think when
he's a full time tight end, everybody's going to really
like him. Jelani Thurman, I don't know what's going on

(46:09):
behind the scenes with Jelani Thurman other than you know
there was certainly some practice, some attention issues. He's definitely
a guy who played much better than Bennett Christian when
he was out there on the field, but could not
jump him on the depth chart. Keenan Bailey did not
get his top target this year, so he brings in
local Nick LeTour and he'll try to get his top

(46:31):
target in this class of twenty twenty seven. Brock Williams,
who's the top three tight end. Personally, when we look
at Ohio State and how they spend their money on
recruits and in the recruiting class, I am not interested
ever in spending money on a top five star tight end.
They cost just as much money as any other position,

(46:55):
and I think you're way better off re upping in
the portal from the tight end from Ohio and getting
yourself a willcas Merik then getting a five star tight end.
It's just not something that I think is a sound
investment when you only get three or four of those
top tier guys out of a recruiting class. That's my

(47:16):
opinion on that one. So I'm happy with Nick Latour.
I'm happy with the Brody Lennons of the world. Like
I'm good with all that. I'm also a big fan
of Keenan Bailey. I just don't want to see him
call the offense. Billy Fessler, he is an official, accountable coach,
the quarterbacks coach. I think he did a pretty good
job with Julian, but when the bullets are flying, Julian

(47:36):
was not ready. And I'll tell you straight up, man,
it's twenty twenty six. Ryan Day after the Michigan game
said his favorite play of Julian's was a scramble that
he made for a first down. I need a quarterback
who has at least some threat to scramble. There were

(47:59):
some opportunity for Julian to pick up a first down
in the playoffs, in the playoffs, and he threw it away.
And that cannot happen. And that only happens if it's
not being coached. That it's not just recommended for you
to do this. This is a mandatory thing. If you

(48:20):
want to play quarterback here. If you want to play
quarterback here, you're gonna go run and pick up a
first down. I'll teach you how to protect yourself, but
you have got to do it. You got to. And
I know he can because I've seen it in his
high school film. I was excited for it as a prospect,
knowing that he was a guy who could scramble. We
saw it in his first spring game, twenty yards right

(48:41):
down the middle of the field. I don't know what
happened from then to fast forwarding a year later and
he's playing against Miami with these massive, fast guys running
all around him, and he sees a gap and he decides,
I'm not gonna take it. Drives me nuts, man, it
drives me nuts. But the offense cannot function in college football.

(49:03):
You cannot make it that easy on the defense. And
that's on Billy Fessler and that's on Ryan Day. Man.
They have got to coach this into their quarterbacks. I
don't think it's a situation anymore like it used to
be where Day was telling them they couldn't do it,
because I don't think he would say that was his
favorite play in the Michigan game if that was the case.

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So that brings us to the new wide receivers coach
Cortes Hankton, a wide receiver by trade from like Southern University,
Like I said, undrafted free agent six years in the
NFL and ends up starting off at like some little

(49:46):
school that he makes it to Vanderbilt. He's forty four
years old, and shortly after Vanderbilt gets hired by Georgia,
spends like twenty eighteen to twenty two, twenty one at
Georgia as their wide receiver coach passing game coordinator, twenty
twenty two, heads back to Louisiana to take that same

(50:07):
job at LSU, and the last two years he was
promoted to the co offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach
of a disgusting offense at LSU. But he was a
guy nonetheless getting promoted, betting promoted is a good thing.
So a dude from Louisiana, you'd expect he'd be a
very good recruiter. Ohio State up until this cycle had

(50:29):
not pulled anybody, any commit out of the state of
Louisiana since Jonathan Wells and Nader Abdulla in my lifetime.
And then they're able to go get Blaine Bradford, whose
brother plays at LSU, and Darius McKinley, whose brother plays
at LSU, two of the most impressive recruitments I've ever
seen from the Buckeyes. And you get three dudes from

(50:49):
Alabama in the last two cycles. Two from Louisiana this cycle,
and officially Ohio state has no there are no doors
closed off. You can get them from anywhere. Now, talk
about LSU, it's the other school that boasts that they
are a wide receiver university and different than the state
of Ohio. They have a lot of wide receiver talent.

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When he came into LSU, Molakue neighbors, Brian Thomas Junior
were already there. He didn't do much to develop them,
so he was not responsible for them. He can't really
claim them, though I've heard some people try to give
him those guys. That's not the case. But he was
responsible for a couple of big time recruitments George Pickens.

(51:32):
That was a monster win. But in his career with
like thirty total receivers who have committed to him, just
six top one hundred players, six top one hundred. That's
not great. It's certainly not great. Got Dylan Bell out
of Georgia, aladd McConkey, so developed some guys that weren't
super highly rated into big time wide receivers. Obviously was

(51:55):
able to land to Corean Moore and Tristan Keys right
number one wide receiver in twenty five, a top three
wide receiver in twenty six, but LSU wouldn't support him
with those. But he did get each of their commitments,
So I think he can get in on big time
commitments right. He can get in on him as long
as he has the support. I feel like when we

(52:18):
look at the just six top one hundred kids in
the in his history, fifty percent of his guys have
been three stars out of thirty. I don't think he
got a lot of support from specifically Brian Kelly. I
think Brian Kelly's directive to him was because nine out
of his twelve guys were from Louisiana. I think his
directive was, we got good enough wide receivers in Louisiana.

(52:41):
Just stay here, save the money and get him from home.
We're gonna go spend that money elsewhere where we need it.
So pretty sure that is the situation with Cortes. But
all in all, I like the hire, and like I said,
I trust Day with his hires. He's been on fire.
He's been on fire. The only one that there's any
question bark on now, and it's only because of the

(53:03):
way the season ended, is Tyler Bowen. But my personal
feel that'll turn around. So waiting for this offensive coordinator higher,
and I hope it comes sooner than later. And I
certainly hope that it is not an internal higher. Now
that I have rambled on for like fifty minutes without

(53:27):
including any of you guys in the show, let me
go to your comments and see if anybody is as Oh, well,
we got a lot of comments. Hey guys, what's going on? Oh,
Aaron right off the rip with a heater. He thinks
we need to start Sam Greerrett right tackle, a true
freshman an Ian Moore at left tackle. Look, Sam's a

(53:48):
dude now. Sam is six foot seven, three twenty and
ween uh oh Geiger Flee says Matt Patricia's post is
very concerning. I've not seen this post. Can someone share
this post with me? I'm with you Erin if you
can find a way to take over that position and

(54:10):
move Sarah Bell to guard. I like that as well.
Thomas Ridley says, agree again, it was waste of talent
because there is no creativity with the coaching staff. It's
just all vanilla. Nathan agrees with me. Facts not necessarily
a runner, but mobile. Yeah, you've got to be able

(54:32):
to scramble. You've got to lost. Buckeye really hates that
Lincoln is gone. I thought they should have played played
in versus Miami to force Miami to defend a running quarterback.
CJ would have lit these teams up with JJ and T. Yeah,

(54:53):
for sure, for sure, totally agree Juck. That was a
big difference in the Miami game. Beck ran when he
needed it, and say it doesn't and that's just it. Beck.
That's not an athlete, you know, but he can do
it when he needed to do it, wasn't afraid to
do it. De Lorenzo says, Donaldson ran straight up and down,

(55:15):
had no vision or breakaway speed, and you will look.
Thomas says, Jack, I disagree with you concerning Donaldson. If
you used according to his strengths, he would have continued
to earn those short yardage. The problem was the coaches
didn't know how to use it consistently. Yeah, will agree

(55:40):
to disagree. I think he was a lousy short yardage
back on top of everything else that he wasn't too
good at, but a really nice guy. John Elveris says,
Remember it took the players calling day out for the
Michigan game to or for the mission game plan to
coach aggressively. And that's that's true. That's true. I wish

(56:02):
that the Okay thoughts on the Matty p post? What's
this post? Man? You guys gotta let me know what
the post is when I'm on the show. Here live
man Patricia? Is it? Did you give a goodbye? Oh
my gosh. The first thing that came up was me

(56:23):
reading the Matt Patricia post. Yeah. I can't find it,
and I don't know. Maybe. I'm sure you guys probably
told me here at the bottom here fact no play
calling head coach has won the Natty. They needed to

(56:45):
swallow his pride and get chipped back for the last
three games. Y'all know. If Turbo can't block in practice,
even though he's the speed guy, he won't get any
playing time. Richie sent Patricia's post me on Twitter. Where
the hell is it at? Here we go? Richard? Okay,

(57:10):
I got it. Okay. Matt Patricia post a picture of
him and his family and he says grateful, thankful, all
the emotions impossible to put into words. What the season
is meant to me? Buckeye Nation, you are beyond compare
on behalf of my entire family. Thank you for welcoming
us with open arms. You made this season of joy

(57:32):
from start to finish. Yeah, that's concerning, not definitive, right,
not definitive, but concerning. I'm with you, guys. I'm with
you guys. That is concerning for sure. But I'm also

(57:57):
with Ethan. NFL coordinators keep them coming. Absolutely, Bump Killer says,
show me one guy who's up to their stock with Walton.
Let's be real, igb did the same stuff he's done
in the past two years. They just didn't call it
as much this year. No real progression in that room.

(58:20):
I will agree with you that it is that Walton
has been I don't want to say he hasn't gotten
much criticism and maybe gotten maybe a little bit more
praise than he deserved because things were so lousy when
he took over and he did straighten it out. I'll

(58:41):
agree with you there. Yeah, the corner's played back way
too far. That was just I don't understand what was
going on there. I certainly could have hit some of those,
some of the wide receivers. I exist thinks that Walton

(59:12):
is overrated. Yeah, i'd agree. I'd agree, but only because
he's so highly rated. I don't think he's not good.
I think he's good. I just don't agree with the
I mean, there are some people like if you question
anything about what, they're like, what he's the coat? Nah? Man,
come on, now, e's up here. Matt g would be

(59:34):
the new defensive coordinator according to Lexis Chazz visiting tomorrow.
Yes he is, Sue, I'm with you, Sue. I think
it's just obnoxious. Sue brings up I hate that we
don't get to hear from the coaches till like spring.
They should have to give a presser after the portal
closes to provide an autopsy of the season and answer
a few questions. What's wrong with that? And you know,

(59:57):
like Sue, I say this as a fan, not because
I used to say this before I was a guy
who went to the press conferences, Right, I'm saying this
is a fan. Like I would say this and people
be like, screw those guys, and they'd be talking about
like the reporters, the beat guys, like it's not for
the Beat guys, it's for us. It's for us who

(01:00:19):
want to hear from them. They're just the guys that
are reporting it. But yeah, I'm with Sue one hundred
percent here. Thank you so much, Austin for the super chet.
Austin says on three has this ninety five percent chance
to get one. Mister Chaz Coleman. Juck, how is the

(01:00:40):
Chaz Coleman recruiting doing. I think it's going well. I
think it's looking well, and I think that Uh, there's
a lot of people who who were counting us out.
They were counting us out. What they didn't realize is, look,
either way, whether the buck Ey's got Chaz Coleman or not,
they were gonna get an excellent defensive end out of

(01:01:03):
this portal. So whether it was him, whether it was
the kid from Florida, they were gonna get one. They
knew that was money that had to be spent and
it was gonna happen. Here's my thoughts on Matty p.
He's not meant to be a head coach. He didn't
do well in Detroit. He'd be great as an NFL DC,

(01:01:24):
but he excels at OSU and can utilize what he wants. Yes,
much opportunities, but much better in college. Are we getting
Chaz Oh? I went Keyan Kelley, Yeah, ke On Keilly
really played great at the end of the year. Well,

(01:01:48):
it definitely definitely creates rhymes. Aaron wants DeAndre Moore. Listen,
I would love DeAndre Moore, but I want them to
spend money on DeAndre more and then get like an
average big man on the on the defensive line, right

(01:02:10):
the middle of that defensive line. I want that to
be the guy that gets a big one, right, a
big chunk of money, like a you know, let's say,
for instance, DeAndre Moore is a top five wide receiver.
Do I want a top five wide receiver invested in

(01:02:30):
instead of a top five defensive tackle, because if one
of them's top five, the other is going to be, like,
you know, the thirtieth ranked guy. No, give me the
thirtieth ranked wide receiver in the top five defensive tackle.
I think there's probably money to get like three top
tier guys, and if one of them is a slot

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receiver when you've already got Brandon Innis, who's serviceable and
who knows, maybe gets beat out by Phil Bell or
brock Boyd. I just think it's a bad way to
spend money, though I like him as a player. A
lot Bump says, we're in a bad spot on defense.

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If we're gonna have average Riley Pettijohn sized linebackers, you
need space eaters. You know, I think I agree with
you on the size, but I think that why can't
we have both? We I agree with you on the size,
but Riley's an exception to the rule because he's a
pretty freaky linebacker. Why can't we have both? You can

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you can't have both. Here's what I'm saying. If you
got three Tier one A guys, there is no scenario where,
in my book, I want them to spend one of
those on a position where you already got a guy
who's a serviceable starter, at a position where I don't
need a stud. I'm so sick of money being pumped
into the wide receiver room and neglected elsewhere. That's what

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I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you got three
top tier one guys, I want to stud offensive lineman,
and I want to stud edge, and I want to
stud defensive tackle. Like sexy, wide receivers are great, We've
had all more than anybody else. Right, doesn't always work
out well for us, You know what I mean. I

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don't want to go play a Miami game again. With
all the sexy wide receivers on the sideline, Matt thinks
that the offense needs an overhaul with philosophy and play calling. Yeah,
I'm with you there, buddy, I'm with you. Brandon Nis

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is as disappointing as CJ. Donaldson. I'm absolutely with you,
no doubt about it. But if Max Claire's back, I
don't need a stud slat wide receiver because I've got
a stud pass catching tight end. I want an upgrade
in that position. It's just not worth the money. Instead
of defensive tackle, defensive end, offensive lineman. I'm with you

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on the Wisconsin Linebracker, bro, he's a stud. Uh juck,
here's one for you. What the hell is not going
on with the Armstrong Twins? Lots of hype but no
playing time. They so they ended the transfer portal? Did

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you know that they are the transfer portal? So here's
the thing. There are a lot of big guys that
get pushed into football, but they don't really love football,
but they stay in football because it is a way
that they can attain things right. And you know, I'm

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a Northeast Ohio guy. They played it sane ads. I've
talked to guys that played against them. I've watched them
play a lot in high school. I watched guys that
were two hundred and twenty pounds dogs that love football
destroy them. I don't think they ever love football. That's
just my impression. And we saw quickly Jake Cook and

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Jayvon McFadden and Carter Lowe in last year's for They
all three of those guys jumped both the twins like immediately,
so they were never gonna play. We need speed, love JJ,

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butit a six three two twenty five wide receiver. Being
your fastest player on the field is a problem. Yeah,
I'm with you. I agree with you there, Wayne says Duck.
The Chas Coleman deal is now done. I'm from Now's, Ohio.
I watch harding football all the time and know a
ton of people in the area. Chaz is gonna sign tomorrow.
Grab that Matty Pete pencil and write it. Thank you, Wayne, Guys,

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Wayne has announced it. Chazz is done. We can celebrate, Wayne.
I will start my video as soon as we're done
with this. The official Chaz has signed video and I
will schedule it to release that way. As soon as
he does announce, I can have it done, and everybody's
gonna be like, damn juck knew ahead of time, and
I'm gonna be like, Yo, Wayne told me he's from Niles,

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and that's what it is. Yeah, Jeremiah Smith is on
nice late night vote in Miami via his socials an
hour ago. You worried about it, I'm not. I'm not

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worried about it. Nah man. I know that people have met.
So I did this video right. I do this video yesterday,
and I'm bringing up these graphics. Where are the graphics at?
Let me show you what I'm bringing up. So I'm
bringing up these these depth chart graphics that I made right,
And I'm bringing these graphics up. And one of the

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things I say is unless Jeremiah Smith goes to Miami,
and I do this look like making fun of people
who were saying this. But I brought up the graphic
too early and people didn't see me do the sarcastic look.
So I'm going through my comments and people are like

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yelling at me for saying Jeremiah Smith is going to Miami,
like what are they even talking about that? And not
see my sarcastic look. And I watched the video back
and no, I had one of these up, so so
I'm answering everybody furiously. I'm sorry. That's not what I
meant was it was a poor attempt at humor. I
don't think he's going to Miami. That's not what I meant.

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Are we getting Koi? No? No, not getting Choy Parish,
which is a bummer, But remember Matt Greary wasn't the
one recruiting KOI anyway. So all right, my friends, I
do appreciate you. We have gone a little long tonight

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and I've had a lot of fun, had a lot
of fun with you guys. We will be back Wednesday
at eight pm, and I will get back and I'll
get into the chat a little earlier on Wednesday at
eight pm, because we've got a lot going and this
has been fun talking to you guys. So make sure
to be here Wednesday at eight. We'll get it on
and pop and we'll have a lot more news to
talk about from then to now, and I won't spend

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the day whining about why I'm so angry, disappointed, irritated
and some such stuff. We need to get some w
forty on the chair that's the microphone stand. But yeah,
you're right, that's terrible. I apologize all right, appreciate you guys.
Have a fantastic evening. BUCKYE Huddle out