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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, Tony Gerdaman here, I've got an episode of
the Skull Session Recruiting podcast with Mark Givler and Juck
from Juck onb Bucks talking about the signing of a
Sam Greer. This is just one of the the capsule
shows that they did on signing Day, and they'll have
more coming out for all of the signees, and so
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I'll be throwing a few of those into the Buckeye
Weekly feeds so that you can get an update on
recruiting class and how these guys are going to be
needed next year and what to look for and what
the scouts say and all those good things. So this
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hello everyone, Welcome to the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast, brought
to you by bucke Huddle dot com. Our national Signing
Day coverage continues with our recruiting capsules.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We are onto for my money, I think for a
lot of people's money.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The number one player in the state of Ohio in
the twenty twenty six recruiting class. That is Akron Hoban
offensive tackle Sam Greer. Sam is signed now with the Buckeyes.
No drama, there, no reason.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
To be concerned. But it's official.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The Buckeye sign for again for my money and maybe
for a lot of other people's money. The best offensive
tackle prospect in Ohio since Paris Johnson. So I think
this is a huge one for the Buckeyes. He's kind
of emerged as one of the leaders of the class,
certainly a guy that was a big pick up early
on for the Buckeyes, especially when they were kind of
going through a little bit of issue with just recruiting.
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Was a little like what are they you know, are
they gonna get some of these guys?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Are they not?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
How's how are things going in state? Are they gonna
lose some of these linemen that are in Ohio this year?
Sam Greer commits early, stays firm the whole way, officially
a Buck guy. Juck your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
It was a beautiful job by Tyler Bowen.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It was a beautiful job by Tyler Bowen to walk
in in an abbreviated class and Sam was you know
his decision wasn't going to happen for another two or
three months when he decided to pull the trigger and
just say.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
All right, we're doing this.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
And I mean, what an awesome day and an awesome
video that came out of it, brought his whole family
down and surprise coach day.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Right after a practice.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Just a massive, massive commitment when we look at so
many years of trying to get that out of state
five star left tackle and coming up, you know, fruitless
and everybody being all upset. And it was trending that
way for a lot of this cycle for the folks
who wouldn't listen that Sam Greer actually was that dude
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right here in our backyard. You were trying to tell him, Mark,
You tried to tell him all along, And of course
the recruiting services come along in the end. Now Rivals
number thirty three player in the country, one spot out
of five start. They better do the right thing and
extend that one or two spots this year. But Sam
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is a five star.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He showed it.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Against the best of the best competition this year in
the state of Ohio. He showed it in the Rivals
camp where Karri Wilder proved who he was That same day.
Sam Greer was the best left tackle there, including Felix
Ojoe in the camp. Sam physically developed now at three
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hundred and twenty pounds six foot seven, and when we
talk about like the frame, like the body fat percentage
very low for three hundred and twenty pounds. We've seen
him on the basketball court. He's like a dancing ballerina.
And you want to talk about a kid with a
chip on his shoulder, man, which you love in an
offensive lineman, like he's smart, but my gosh, man, there's
a fews that flips with Sam. And I'm up here
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in Akron have seen Sam play a lot of times.
He's got a level of dog in him that is
just a little bit different, and you love from an
offensive lineman, so every bit the five star left tackle
that everybody should be so excited about.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
You know, he's that dude. He's that dude.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
We got him and we grew him up, We grew
him right here, and that doesn't make it any less exciting.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It shouldn't be any less exciting, It should be more excited.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I have obviously watched Sam going back, probably going
into his sophomore year, and we knew he was a
basketball kid, and so there's a bit of a a
give and take, I think with basketball players offensive line,
where you love the footwork, you love the feet, the athleticism,
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there's a lot of things that you can work with athletically,
but then there is the whole component of okay, but
is he tough? Does he like to be physical? Will
he push guys around who are bigger? Or is he
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just kind of, you know, a big fish in a
small pond in that sense. And I watched Sam in
like state championship game type settings, and the first thing
that jumped out to me was that he was physical,
that he was tough, that he played with a bit
of a mean streak to him, and that immediately erased
any sliver of concern I may have had about him
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as a prospect, because at that point I had already
ranked him the highest he was. He was my number
one lineman in Ohio and it's a great year in
Ohio for lineman. But there were other guys on other
sites that were ranked higher, and that's fine, but like
I always had Sam at Sam at the top coming
out because of this potential, and that's a scary word,
so to watch him develop physically, Like right now, physically
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he's where he's he is where I thought it would
take maybe until his freshman or sophomore.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Year o High State.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Physically same yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Like he has really put in the work.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
To develop his body to be ready to play early
as early as you can expect an offensive lineman to play,
which is which can be tough. But he is going
to come in, as you said, you know, like three
hundred and twenty. He's not coming in at two eighty
and he's got to put on twenty five pounds. He's
not coming in at three forty and he's got to
drop twenty pounds. He's coming in right around that playing weight,
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and he's just it's been so refreshing to see him
not hold onto the basketball dreams in terms of like
some of these guys they wait until the last minute
to really commit to football. Some of these guys, again,
it takes me a while to realize, Hey, I can't
just be big and athletic. I gotta be tough and physical.
Like there are so many components here that make Sam
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almost a sure thing for me, as much of a
sure thing as I can really say an offensive Lineman
can be because it is the hardest position to evaluate.
But I think the world is Sam.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think he is like.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Just a smid, like just a smidge below Paris Johnson
as a prospect. And I thought Paris Johnson was like
the best offensive line prospert ever seen in Ohio. So like,
and I you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm old,
but I'm not old enough to have watched Orlando Pace
in high school, so like, forgive me on that, but like,
Paris was kind of the gold standard for me for
Ohio offensive tackles, and I think Sam is so close
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to that.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think he is really really good.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Man. He really is.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
The coordination at that size is just you know, you
watch him and he's posted a lot of clips of
just drills he's doing, and you look at him and
you would think it's a it's a six foot for
two hundred and sixty pound kid.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
The way he moves, it's just like guys that are
six seven, three twenty.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
And he has he got mad at me when I
posted six seven, three hundred last time. He texted me
immediately three twenty now, and he's proud of that.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Because he's worked very hard at that.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
It's been you know, something that he's been working at
a long time now, and like you said, yeah, gave
up the basketball dreams.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
He was good, very good basketball player.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
He was playing I mean as a as a freshman
deep into the playoffs. He was a stud and you
know he could have absolutely played D one basketball. But
obviously the future brighter as a left tackle for him,
but a coordinated dude, a kid who you know, he's
got a really good kickstep, but he's already got a
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lot of the stuff. He's got long arms, he's got everything.
And when you look around the country at the best
tackles this year, the Jackson can't well Emmanuel Heanachu and
Felix Ojoe, Sam is right there with them all. Like
there is when we're projecting out looking at the NFL
Draft and you're looking at these prospects here, there is
no reason Sam doesn't end up being the best of
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all of them.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
There really isn't, you know, who knows what happens.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But when we talk about I can't miss, we're talking
about like as a college starter, like an excellent football
player at Ohio State, an excellent starter, like I feel
just as much as you like, this guy will be
an excellent starting left tackle at Ohio State at some
point in his career. Hopefully you get a couple of
years out of him, just a matter of how fast
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that happens. But like you said, he's coming in at
that weight already, and you know it's, uh, the sky's
the limit really, but the floor is very very high.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, no question, he's just like I said, he's checked
all the boxes for me, and I am I'm a
little critical of the basketball playing offensive tackles because you
just never like or the guys who start out like, oh,
it's a basketball kid, but he's got a chance to
be good, Like I've seen I've kind of seen that
movie before where they're not tough or they just can't
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let go of the basketball thing, or like I look
back at like I look back at Caleb Wesson and
I'm like, why why did he try to be a
six to eight center in a game that in a
basketball environment where centers aren't what we think of as centers,
you know, going back twenty years.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So there's so many things that can.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Derail these big, these big guys, and Sam has just
embraced what he is and he still has all that athleticism,
he's had all that upside, but it's he's limited the
risk of him as a prospect in terms of, well,
he's not working hard in the weight room, or he's
still hung up hoping for that big basketball offer, like
none of that's he has put his head down and
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went to work the last two years and become an
amazing player. And this was one of the best offensive
tackle classes nationally. I think I can remember there's five
or six elite guys, but I think Sam's on that
top tier.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think, you know, Tier one's probably again five or
six guys. I think Sam's one of those five or
six guys where any as you mentioned, any one of
them could end up maybe being the first offensive lineman
drafted in three or four years. And we'll see which
one of them it is. But I think he's on that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Tier for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And again I think he's probably gonna be a guy
who's a captain of Ohio State at some point. Just there,
there's there's not much I can't say about him.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I just he's he's.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The total package as a as a legitimate big time
tackle prospect.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
He is, He's the real deal.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
And like, you know, being a diehard Ohio State fan,
like I know, I know how it feels and how
it's felt for so many cycles missing out on that
big target out of state left tackle, and I feel
like that there was a lot of this cycle that
felt like that, with Ohio State kind.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Of loosely being in on Jackson can't well and then the.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Felix Ojo thing and people feeling a lot of that
same disappointment. But maybe Sam maybe felt like kind of
a consolation prize, And I just want to say, like,
this dude is not the consolation prize, like he is
the prize, and I feel like that wasn't appropriately like
like put out there earlier because he was ranked for
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some reason outside the top one hundred for a good
portion of the class. They finally came around and realized
what we had here. But yeah, man, everybody should be thrilled.
And the fact that it.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Didn't come from out of state doesn't mean anything. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
You got the player, and the player is every bit
one of those guys, and right now, like if we're
looking at just where they sit right now, like this
is a better dude right now than Felix Ojo felix
Ojo's got a ceiling that's as high as anybody.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But right now, this is the better dude.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, he's to me. We talked about this elite group
of guys. He's maybe the most ready if.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You factor in like his body wears bodies physically, and
just the level of competition he's played in high school.
I think there's guys out there who have their body
where it needs to be, but maybe didn't play like
Jackson cantwell, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Playing against children.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, right, Or you've got guys who maybe have that
athletic upside of the felix Ojo.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Which is just phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But maybe his body get a little stronger, get a
little you know, kind of fill out a little bit.
So I think Sam, you're getting you know, again, none
of these guys are truly ready for what they're going
to go up.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Against right with this thing.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But like, I think Sam is probably the most prepared
at this point of the group, and so it'll be
interesting to see what he can do. But here's just
like a general prediction.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, we've we've gone through you know, I covered.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Felix Ojo covered David Sanders made trips to.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Their high schools. We talked to them numerous.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Times, all that stuff, seeing the disappointment. Ultimately, at the
end of the day, this is what I kind of
always say. If those guys go somewhere else are great players,
that's okay. As long as the guys you got are
good that like, it only becomes an issue like who
cares if David Sanders isn't all American at Tennessee, if
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Carter low is too, or if Ian Moore is at
like and so my prediction is that I'm not gonna
make predictions on like, oh, they're gonna regret going other schools.
I don't. I'm not gonna play that game. But what
I'm gonna say is we're gonna look back on this
time period and say, you know what, Ian Moore, Carter Lowe,
and Sam Greer were pretty good football players. And it's
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it's it's it's okay, it's okay what happened. It's okay
that we didn't you know, if you're an O Highsted fans,
okay you didn't get those guys, and it's oh, you know,
the guys you got were really, really good. I really
think that's kind of how this is going to play
out where, Yes, maybe David Sanders is an All American,
maybe Felix Ojo becomes an All American in Texas Tech.
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But I think they've got some really good players in
the program right now, and I Carter Low and Sam
Rerier who are going to make that sting a lot
less as we progress here the next two or three years.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, I totally agree with you, and I honestly believe
that offensive line, Like, you know, the difference for your
college football team between having that first round left tackle
and a fifth round left tackle isn't really much difference
on your college football team. It's a difference on the
next level, but on your college football team, that fifth rounder,
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like the point differential at the end of the day
isn't isn't much difference. And that's just saying, like, honestly,
that's probably a floor for Sam. I think Sam's going
to be a total dude. I think Ian's already shown
us in the limited time that he's played with that
one start like, yeah, Wow, that's a second year kid
man out there doing the darn thing like good enough
that I thought, man, maybe he might take that role
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over immediately. And then obviously Carter got all the physical tools.
We haven't seen it out there yet, but yeah, this
is a loaded a couple of guys right here, like
this is. This is a really strong core at tackle
we got going on moving forward.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and so a really solid overall O line class,
which we'll talk about all these guys eventually, really solid
O lie class for Tyler Bowen. Twenty sevens off for
a really good start. Twenty seven is very deep in Ohio.
We thought twenty six was really good in Ohio, twenty
seven might be even better. Twenty seven is like seven
eight nine guys deep right now on the offensive line
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justin Ohio. You're starting to see the Buckeyes take advantage
of that.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So, you know, O.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Line recruiting woes seem to be turning around, and maybe
the Ohio State fans will get a little more joy
out of Olne recruiting now now that things have turned
around a little bit and have it not be such
a point of you know, consternation or whatever constantly. But
big one here with Sam Greer signed with the Buckeyes today,
So we will continue our signing a coverage here at
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Dot com slash bucke Huddle throughout the day for capsules
like this, we're going to have live show kind of
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always do that on the message board at Buckie huddle
dot com.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Coming there and talk about the recruiting.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Class or signing day or somewhat big game coming up
on Saturday night I might want to be talking about
as well. I'm going to be at the Ohio High
scho Fotball Championships. I think Juck might be potentially joining
me for a couple of one or two of those
games as well. But we'll have coverage of the Ohiohig.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
School FOOTBA Championships this weekend in Campon as well.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Plus our guys will be on the road at the
Big Ten Championship game in Indianapolis for on the ground
coverage there. But thanks everyone for supporting us, watching, listening,
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