November 18, 2025 • 42 mins
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tom Orr and Tony Gerdeman react to the latest College Football Playoff rankings and discuss the potential road ahead for the Buckeyes. They also take questions from the live stream viewers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going? Sorry, Froz,
how's it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Going well, Tony? I'm being involuntarily subjected to college basketball?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
How are you well doing? Doing well? As I watched
the clock actually move? Well, no, now it's stopped. I
don't know if it's moving for you. I'm behind you
as you know. But fortunately we've done these games before,
these shows before where there's like they've gone to overtime
and we've been, you know, like waiting and waiting and waiting.
But I don't think, barring an unforeseen miracle, I don't
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think this one's going to go to overtime. So we
should get started here in a few minutes with the
rankings reveal. And hey, welcome everybody to our Tuesday night
Rankings Reveal live show. Welcome onboard the biggest show, the
biggest reveal of any college football week of the year.
This week, is that right, Tom.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, the the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, which is a daily
podcast that fall weekly. This is the weekly revealed of
the year. That is the biggest of the week today today, Yeah, right,
Hopefully hopefully you all follow that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, so if you guys are interesting, confusing, go ahead
and throw in your super chats. We'll take those right away,
and we'll obviously talk about the rankings, of which there
are two top ten losses this week, with Bama losing
to number eleven Oklahoma and number ten Texas losing to
number five Georgia. Two SEC teams losing in the top ten. Wow,
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couldn't be me, could not be me?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, it was. This is a week where you didn't
have a ton change. But it'll be interesting to see
how the committee moves things around after Alabama had had
that lost. Texas obviously is going to fall out of
the out of the field right now. And you know,
if they beat Texas A and M, I guess we'll
have a long and fascinating conversation about them in a
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couple of weeks. But you know right now, I mean
we were talking before the and I will put up
last week's rankings. These are not current, These are last
week's rankings, just so you see where people were before
last week. Number ten, Texas, number four Alabama both lost.
We were talking beforehand about the fact that Alabama, you know,
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I don't think they're going to fall that far you
you think they might fall. I think they lead to
Morgan and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, and then if they're right there, like Oklahoma
at number eleven is going to move up. So at
some point do they cross paths? And if they do,
can you have Oklahoma behind Alabama right now?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm always saying that once you have multiple losses, everything's
out the window in terms of head to head. But
when it's something that they can compare to and if
they're in the same grouping, they will doesn't mean that
they're going to side with it. But boy, if they're
trying to avoid controversy, they would want to put oh
you ahead of Bama. Actually town, If they're trying to
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avoid controversy, they'll try to find a way to keep
Alabama away from Oklahoma, like you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, and that's you know, that's that's where you get
into you know, Notre Dame is ahead of Miami. How
could Notredame be have Miami? My Notre Dame is you know,
Notre Dame is you know lost to Miami. Well, Miami
is fifteenth in the actual top twenty five. Notre Dame
is ninth. And so that's not close enough that you
actually get to the point where that's a point of comparison.
So that's how Notre Dame is ahead of Miami right now.
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You know Texas A and M. Like man, oh man,
I say, I comment about being down twenty seven to
a three win team, It was thirty to three. In
case you somehow missed it, it was thirty to three.
South Carolina over over Texas A and M at halftime
in College station, and Texas A and M came back
to win. But I'm guessing that will not be something
that is going to vault them up the the rankings.
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I'm going to remove this just so we don't have
anyone join us late and get confused that that's the
new rankings. Will we'll see when we have We'll have
an updated version of that coming up very soon. Oh Tony.
They're going to explain to us how the college football
playoff works.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They also anyone watching this who is not aware of
how the college football playoff works.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, they also explain how college football overtime works. That
would be grand. Thank you for that. Watching that Texas
A and M first half that was some of the
worst quarterback play I've seen all year. And then he
threw for like Marcel read through for like two hundred
and forty yards in the third quarter, and I see
national people, national person saying, oh, this is this is
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why you know, if he brings them back, I'm voting
for him for Heisman. And it's just insanity to see
a player play so poorly. And there were interceptions dropped
that he threw that we're not converted, So I mean
South Carolina did him a favor by only intercepting I
don't know two or three of his passes, because there
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are five or six that they could have and they
just didn't. And then for South Carolina to completely choke
away not a surprise. After you saw how quickly Texas
A and M scored that first touchdown in the third quarter,
you're like, well, this looks like it's going to be
as hilarious as we think it's going to be. You
need one of these every year in college football, and
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we got one against kind of a bit of a
joke program this year that was probably top thirteen in
the preseason or so. In South Yurolina.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They were one of the teams that was top fifteen,
top twenty. You know, they were in that you know,
the seven SEC teams between ten and twenty in the
preseason rankings kind of clump of teams and have just
not been you know, they've lost every game, and everyone
wants to say, well, they've played a bunch of good
teams and lost to them, Like, yeah, they've lost all
the good teams they've played, So that tells me they
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are probably not a good team if they are consistently
not able to beat any good teams at all despite
having multiple chances to do so. So yeah, I you know,
I think Texas A and M is a high variance
team where if they get on the right day, they
can beat you. But this is not a remarkable Notre
Dame offense this year, especially and especially was not at
the beginning of the year. And they gave up forty
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points to Notre Dame in Week one in South Bend
or two whatever that was. Now that was a that
that has turned out to be a pretty decent win,
especially on the road. But if your defense is giving
up forty points, then your offense is you know, has
turned the ball over four times in the first half
or whatever it was within them, Like that's not. You
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know that that is probably not a team that's going
to be able to string together the consistency you need
to beat three to four good teams in a row.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Rabul Stash asks who replaces Macroads tonight? Mac Roades has
stepped away. I have the email. If I told you
the name, would you remember? Would I remember having read
it and heard it? Of course, not just some dude,
I mean some college football guy. Do you need to
know anywhere than that? Would you know him if you
saw him at a restaurant, if you walked into Fazzoli's.
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Would you know him if you saw him? So why
do you need me to tell you?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah? One hundred year Achek, who is ar Kansas has
apparently nothing better to do right now than to be
on the college football Playoff selection committee. Soa back roads
from Baylor, who may also be in the in the
I need to replace my football coach market in the
next few months.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's been a tumultuous season, Tony.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
They may be in a similar situation in Maryland where
it's just like, well, we're not going to get We're
going to be at the bottom of the totem Paul,
we might just want to sit this, sit this circus
out and see what happens next year when I'm sure
things are completely called next.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Year mm hmm, oh yeah for sure, have you Yeah,
this is this is definitely a hiring cycle with all
the coaches that are on the market, all the openings
that are on the market, and then you know, hey,
you look at how many big, big, good jobs are open,
and you look at how many good coaches are potentially available.
It's like, hmmm, someone's going to get left standing without
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a chair at the end of this, and maybe more
than one someone. So yeah, this is this is going
to be a fun, a fun hiring cycle to watch.
You know, someone just spent tens of millions of dollars
to fire a coach and is not going to be
happy with the guy they get to replace him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So you know, I'm thinking about Ole Miss fans right
now who want Lanekiffin to stay because he's gotten them
consistently where they haven't been, you know, David Cutliff, Cutcliff
got them here and there. But knowing that you're probably
gonna lose him, and then who knows what you become
after that with whoever you're going to land, You feel
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for them because right now they're in a good spot
where they're playoff bound ish every year and they don't
necessarily to make it every year. They're they're they're happy
with being around it. I wonder if at some point
with if Kevin sticks around, they eventually get tired of
it and then he becomes like you never stay stay
around so long that you become the villain type of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But that maybe that may be a matter of days. Yeah,
I mean different there we have a super chat for
Mike Farinos or waiting for the rankings to come up.
Is there a better pair than Virginia Tech and Franklin?
Sounds like it should be a perfect fit now, Yeah,
I have I have thought several times in the past
when Justin Fointe came over from Memphis, I was like,
oh man, that is a great and that did like
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that did not work at all. So it seems like
it should be a good opportunity. Like you're already starting
to see some indications that some Penn State commits and
decommits may follow him to Blacksburg. If he can bring
some of his coaching staff there, if he can get
some you know, you probably have some players transferring off
the current roster after the season heading down to Blacksburg,
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you know, the Penn State roster was not good enough
to win in the Big Ten. Allow me to assure
you the Penn State roster is plenty good to win
the ACC and that I mean that could be a
you know, the expectations there are not national championship. If
he can get Virginia Tech to ten and two next
year and in the College Football playoff conversation, you know,
that's what he did that had Penn State fans grumbling
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all the time. And you know then that what was
not good enough at Penn State is going to be
plenty good. And in Blacksburg they are touspling through this.
I forgot they are going. They're going at warp speed here.
So number twenty five is Arizona State number twenty four, two,
Lane number twenty three, Houston number twenty two, Missouri number
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twenty one, Illinois number twenty Tennessee number nineteen, Virginia number eighteen,
Michigan number seventeen. Texas they take a major tumble. Number
sixteen Virginia Tech or sorry, Georgia Tech, not Virginia Tech
have next year, Yes, that's next year. Wow, but just
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the haper speed here.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So well, boy, they did not like that lost for Texas.
But it got ugly late.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It did, it did, and well, and it's I don't
know that that was. That wasn't a terrible loss. It
was just it was a close game for three quarters basically,
and then Kirby Smart hit the gas and then it
was no longer a close game.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Classless on sidekick.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Not all Tennessee moves up three spots, but that was
I think because Iowa and uh Pit. I think the
three teams ahead of them all lost.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's because they beat New Mexico State.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah. Well, listen among us number fifteen USC up two.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Spots following a ranked win over a then ranked Iowa team.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Illinois went from unranked to twenty one was a fourteen Vanderbilt,
which still absolutely that's exactly where they were last week.
That still just fills my heart with joy to see
Vandy among these, like, I mean, legitimately among the periphery
of the college football playoff picture number thirteen Miami.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And right now you're going to be one to have
to be in. You're gonna want to be in the
top ten to make the playoffs. At this point with
with the ACC being outside of the number and the
group of five definitely being outside the number.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
YEP. One thing that did change this past week that
we were I think both deeply hoping for was you
no longer have the real possibility of two group of
five teams making the play at the field because Duke
loss and now Duke the dream of a four loss
ACC champion Duke is now dead. So rip to a
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real one.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, thank you, thank you Virginia for ruining all of
our hopes and dreams by beating Duke.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Number two twelve, Utah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Up one spot, so BYU e yu, And now we
start to get interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Now now is when you need to really start paying attention.
I mean by you will get by you will probably
oh no, because Texas Tech is going to be and
so BYU will be probably the first one out because
the top ACC team. I don't I think we've already
seen the top ACC team, right, number ten Alabama? Wow,
you were right. I was wrong. That was they were.
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They were significantly punished for that loss.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So this will be Notre Dame or Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh. We're going to talk about Alabama for a while,
probably about how unfair.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It is well, Notre Dame was the top ranked two
loss team before Oklahoma with the benefit of this win,
which is now as good as any noted better than
any Notre Dame win at this point. Yeah, so why
not jumped them? We know how much the committee loves
to have these SEC teams being at the top of
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the best two loss team, the best three loss team,
the best one loss team.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Number nine is Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So then that has to be well, it doesn't have
to be.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Tony. The committee starts every week with a blank sheet
of paper. I'm not sure if you know that or not.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
With this blank sheet, do they also tally up the
losses that each team has?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, that does seem to be a job one. Why
when they get together in Lovely Grapevine, Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How many SEC losses? Because that counts better.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
We got to talk about the pacing of this show.
Number eight is Oklahoma, so above them in some order
is going to be probably Oregon, Texas Tech, Georgia, Texas A,
and m Indiana Ohio State. That would kind of be
chalk if they just.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Move everybody up one. Yeah, that would make the most
sense because then then well, although at some point if
if it's a blank sheet every time and data changes,
don't you have to change things up so that you're
not just doing the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Number seven Oregon. I think the answer, Tony is no,
we don't have to do that. Tony, I'm not sure
how blank the piece of paper is.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You can see what they wrote last week. It's like
the indented. All you have to do is shade in
the areas and you can see the letters come to life.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Mike Rerinosy is one of the podcasts. I'll listen. You
mentioned that Texas never had the ball with a chance
to tire a lead for the final forty two minutes.
Never verified it, but seems odd. They might have just
always been, you know, down two scores, and then they score,
and then they're down one score. But then Georgia answers
Number six Ole miss.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chalk, mm hmm. Mike Freno, Duke still has a somewhat
viable path through the a SEC Championship. It's not likely,
but it's also not too unlikely. Five percent chance. Maybe
I think this is Lloyd Christmas type of thinking here.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now, I'm going to remember the name of the website
that I used to find like tiebreakers for conference championship.
At number five is Texas Tech. Yeah, so Tony, if
they didn't actually start with a blank sheet of paper.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's amazing, it would be really funy.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They moved like Georgia over unbeaten Texas A and M
and just watched Texas A and M fans lose their minds.
That's that's about our last.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Because I mean, you know, Texas A and M's win
over South Carolina quality win. Indiana's win over Wisconsin not
a quality win. If you wanted to jump to Hoosiers
right now, who's gonna say.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Boo number four? No, that was last year. That was
that was Boo quarter and that was last year. Number
four is Georgia.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So right now is it looking like Georgia and uh,
Texas A and M and the SEC championship game.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I believe that's where it is. You have number three
Texas A and M number to Indiana and that will
be unless unless they somehow left Ohio State off this week. No, oh,
thank what a relief. They did not Ohio state number one.
So all right, so number one Ohio state, number two, Indiana,
number three, Texas A and M number four Georgia number five,
Texas Tech, number six, ole Miss number seven, Organ number eight, Oklahoma,
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number nine, Notre Dame, number ten, Alabama. That's your top ten.
Your first round is Tulane in Texas Tech, Oklahoma and
Notre Dame Miami and ole Miss, Alabama and Oregon. And
then the team's getting buys into the second round Georgia,
Ohio State, Texas A and M Indiana. I will put
this together real quick for you and then we will
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get get moving. I gotta say, the number five team,
Texas Tech, that is a real, real good spot to
be because you're getting the not you're getting the non
the non power conference team, which in this case is Tulane,
and you're getting you know, and then you're playing Georgia. Now,
Georgia as the number four seed. That is a you know,
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that's a I think I would rather play Georgia than
Texas A and M or. I'm sorry, I rather play
Texas A and M or Indiana than Georgia right now.
I mean, do you disagree?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was telling I'm sorry, Whould, I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Would you Georgia? Who would you rather play? Right now? Georgia,
Texas A and M or Indiana like, if you're if
you have to be in a semi final against one
of those teams, which one would you rather play?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Probably Texas A and M. Yeah, I would Indiana.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think Georgia is uh. I think Georgia is probably
last on my list, And you know, I don't want
to fall prey to recency bias here. They're playing better,
they are definitely playing better, and there's not there's not
a team right now that I look at and go unbeatable,
absolutely unbeatable. But I mean, I think Georgia. I think
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Georgia is a pretty complete package right now, or at
least they're becoming a more complete package than they were before.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I would agree just looking. Ohio State has two ranked wins,
number seventeen and number twenty one. Indiana has no one
ranked win over number seven Oregon, Texas A and M
two ranked wins number nine and number twenty two. Alright,
it's Mike ferguson the super Chat. The desperation to keep
Bama in is unreal. They are, They're right at that
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cut line at ten. It's interesting, but I don't have
an issue with them at that spot because when I
put BYU in over them, no Utah, No, No, I
mean Miami is certainly not so like I think there
might actually be just a good cutoff spot in the
first ten. Yeah, and then the second ten is a
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little bit different. And I'm not I'm not saying Bamas
any great shake, no, you know, but I think they're
more capable than everybody but below them. And we know
they're more capable than Vandy. What might I see in
USC and Alabama? Go at it though?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah? USC, And I'm just adding the USC graphic the
first four out list and then I'll get the graphic
on the screen so over and can kind of see
this and we can, uh, you can play along at home.
I I look at there are a couple of teams
that I look at and think maybe maybe gonna make
a better run at you know, either making it or
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making a run in the playoff. Then you would have
thought a couple uh, a couple of weeks ago. One
of them to me is USC, Like if USC, USC
has I believe they have Oregon and again right at Oregon,
and then you will U see la they win those
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two they're probably in I mean you're close enough right now,
you're you're probably in Oregon. Is I saw a question earlier,
you know, if Oregon loses to USC but beats Washington,
are they in? And the answer is, I don't know.
It depends, like the most exciting answer there is, it
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depends where. You know. You tell me what seven other
teams do, and I'll tell you you know, whether Oregon
is in at that point.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But if I look at Georgia as a team that
I wouldn't you know, if I was a coach, I
wouldn't mind seeing Georgia on the other side of the
bracket and not next to me. In terms of some
of the lower ranked teams, Like I don't think anyone
wants Ohio State. I don't you know, behind Ohio State,
Georgia might be the second biggest team that you probably
don't want to see of the lower ranked teams. Notre Dame.
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You could see Notre Dame make a run this year
that they just they seem like they they can run
the ball in a way and CJ. Carr has come
a long way since the beginning of the season, and
you know, they've got a good defense. That's a team
that I don't know that you'd love to see opposite you.
I mean Notre Dame Oklahoma as a first round game, Like, man,
that would be a banger that I think that would
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be a heck of a football.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And if USC can beat Oregon, I think there's enough
room for Oregon and USC to both make it because
when you look at the I kind of put the
cut line at two losses, and then some of those
two loss teams aren't going to get in, Like I
don't think Vandy at ten and two. They've got Kentucky
and Tennessee left, so they won't have a ranked win.
Tennessee would drop off at that point with another loss,
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and Vandy already is kind of on the way out.
So like I see USC with a win over Oregon
jumping and getting at that point pretty close to that
ten line mark. But then you got to figure, like, Okay,
which which ten or eleven teams are we talking about
here with two losses, because you know there's probably you
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got Texas with two losses are fewer, So you got Texas,
A and m Georgia, all Miss Alabama, Oklahoma, that's you know,
that's five right there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Here's here's a question from Mike that I'm sure other
people are asking, So why does this graphic have tak
twelve in the list and then show tu Lane at
twelve on the bracket. Well, the bracket includes the top
five conference champions, so you've got number one. You know,
we'll just take the currently highest ranked team neat of
these conferences, So number one Ohio State Big ten champion,
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number three Texas A and m SEC champion, and then
number five Texas Tech Big twelve champion, Number eleven Miami
or number thirteen Miami ACC champion, and then Tulane which
is twenty four is the highest ranked non power conference champion,
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so they would slot in that twelfth spot, like like
Boise State. I think Boise State actually did finish in
the top twelve last year. But if you regardless of
where you finish, if you are the fifth highest ranked
Group of five conference champion, you're in and you're gonna
get slotted in in one of those spots. So number
eleven and number twelve on the bracket are actually lower
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than that on the rankings, but because they are the
projected right now conference champions, they would slot in there.
And you know, Vanderbilts in an interesting spot because you've
got Texas Tech is going to play you know, b
Yu or Utah is going to play Texas Tech in
the Big Twelve Championship game, and if they don't win,
you know, they're gonna they're gonna fall below Vanderbilt Miami.
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I don't know that Miami even has.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
A path to the That's what I wanted to pass.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's an ACC title, right they're.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Four and two right now, and there are four teams
with one loss ahead of them, and they've lost to
one of them in SMU. So that's and they've lost.
You know, Louisville's out of it now. But the Georgia Tech,
who they did not play, won't will not play Virginia
who they did not play and will not play. They
lost to SMU and they will not play. They they're
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at Pitt to end the season, so that could get
them over Pitt, but they're still jo Virginia and SMU
to worry about, and they probably can't get over SMU
unless SMU loses twice at this point because of that.
So there's there's a path, but it's very thin, and
I don't know that there's a path for two ACC teams,
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just like there may not be a path for two
Big Twelve teams.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Right, and Georgia Tech only has one ACC game left.
They play Pitt this weekend. Pit, of course, the central figure,
the main character in the entire college football university, Pitt Panthers.
They play Georgia Tech this weekend and then they play
Miami next weekend. If Georgia Tech wins this weekend, they
are functionally in the ACC Championship I think, because they
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would have one loss and that loss was to North
Carolina State, which is like way down the list, so
they should be fine. They played Georgia next weekend. So
you know, the way you get two ACC teams in
is Georgia Tech wins week against against Pitt, Georgia Tech
wins next week against Georgia and then loses in the
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ACC Championship game. That's how you would get two ACC
teams in. Probably not, and you know that's that was
It's a you know, it's theoretically possible, but not particularly likely.
I you know, like I said, I really like how
george is playing right now, and I was, I watched
the game last year. Don't worry, you know, so I
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am aware of what could what it could be. But yeah,
that would be that would be a little bit of
a surprise. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure no
one actually watched Georgia Tech last week against Boston College.
I was watching that on the scoreboard at Ohio Stadium
because that was happening at the same time as the
Buckeyes game, and Boston College, which is currently one in ten,
was leading for the vast majority of that game. In
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Georgia Tech really pulled one out of yes, hind quarters
to uh to win that one, what thirty six thirty
four or something like that. It was. It was not
a game that you should have if you were appearing
on this graphic.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So I'm looking at this and for the every week
in Row Ohio say, it certainly does not have the
easiest road. Now, let's keep in mind this is not
exactly how things will shake out once conference championships and
all that. But it is interesting that the two SEC
teams I think would have the easier road than the
two Big ten teams in this precise exact scenario.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, and again a bunch of this stuff. You have
minor changes in the in the rankings, and it turns
into I end up shuffling half the stuff around on
the graphic on the right. So Yeah, this is this
is still very much you know, don't don't book your
travel plans based on this. Mike Frano says, Duke's path
is that Duke wins out, they beat North Carolina in wake.
Those are both plausible, plausible to likely. Georgia Tech Overpit,
(27:45):
that's certainly a possibility. SMU has to lose one of
Cal or Louisville. M Cal not gonna happen against Cal.
It could be the birds with teeth could get them maybe,
And then Virginia Tech beats UVA, which is one of
those things that happened literally every year, but this year
it really shouldn't happen. But who knows, Maybe they will
have that James Franklin magic.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Each of the any of those things could happen, and
it wouldn't be a surprise. All of those things is
how we all lose parlays. I will say, Miami's at
Virginia Tech this week. Let's see what the James Franklin
boosts does there, not that he's coaching. Yeah, good thing
for Virginia Tech. Now it's a cheap shot. But let's
(28:26):
see what kind of energy they've got going on there,
and let's see if it's a little chili rain. And
then you might see some Hurricanes struggling. Yes, which what
used to be a pretty cool rivalry by the way,
back in the Big East days.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Virginia Tech and Miami Miami. Oh yeah, yeah, back in
the back in the Michael vic days, and oh yeah
that was those are great Lee sugs. Oh yes, we
can spend a bunch of time naming some guys.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Corey Moore on the defensive line, for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was looking to see a bunch of starred questions.
But we've done all the starred questions. Okay, the super chats,
so we have you know, this is this is another
one where you look and you go, Okay, which is
the which is.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The uh.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Super check? Mike person Tech makes a bowl and plays
Penn State this year. Well, that would require Penn State
to win six games, which maybe maybe, and then also
to be willing to play a bowl game, because that
is a coaching staff that might not be staying together
and a team that might not be staying together. They
(29:35):
might they might be. Man, I gotta tell you, I
just googled Penn State football schedule, and the little thing
at the top of Google says Penn said, Nidney Allons
football fifteenth in the Big Ten. Like like, I mean,
I know, I'm aware, I understand you don't like man,
that is rough being a member for eight months. Thank you.
(29:58):
I've bumped into Doreen at the stadium on Saturday night
and they's got more games they need to win both
of them. They have to beat Nebraska at home and
then they have to beat Rutgers so on the road.
That could that could very well be. If Penn State
can handle their business this week, that could be a
loser leaves Town match Rutgers Penn State only one can
(30:21):
be Bowl eligible. Just how the n line thought it
was going to go two scores in both remaining games.
Let me quickly got in state Nebraska line because that
doesn't sound right. I mean, oh Nebraska lost there. Yeah,
they don't have Dylan Roola.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Still and Rutgers is not very good, but let's see.
I think one interesting point about the James Franklin thing
is seeing all of the commitments compared to what's going
on at like LSU, where players commit to James Franklin,
players commit to l s U the different kind of coaches.
So I think that's a quality thing. For Virginia to
(31:01):
What's Jordan Kapler got to say?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Jordan Kapler says, what would the super chat requirement be
to get Tom to call on The Fine Long Show
and make a case for Penn State to get in
the playoffs of Obama because of quality losses? Listen, listen, listen.
I mean who they lose to? They lost to Oregon.
You see Oregon on this graphic. Don't you you see
Ohio State? You see Ohio State in this graphic. Don't
you do you see UCLA?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But who did UCLA play last week? Ohio State, thank
you very much. Who did Penn State play last week?
Doesn't matter? They won quality win. I mean it's they
beat Michigan State. You just saw Michigan State beat Kentucky
and basketball. That's a quality SEC win. That's a transitive
win for Penn State football over Kentucky basketball. I don't
think I don't think you need a super Chick. I
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don't think you need to have any super chat anything.
I mean, you're welcome to about tree Fitty is the
is the suggestion from the Peanut Gallery.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But I think you know in the past what we've done,
We've had Keviny two jars of pickles. I think if
he does that, then you call it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If Kevin eats two jars of pickles, Yes, yes, then
you call in. I've seen Kevin eat two jars of pickles.
You know what, I've never seen three jars three jars
of pickles, not a one I have.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
But that's a totally different story. It was just a
random Tuesday with the barbecue going and things of that nature.
I'm sorry, grill smoker.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So which of these teams looking at this, which of
these teams do you look at and go easy path
and like very difficult path because you know, I look
at Texas A and m AS they're the same team.
Well yeah, I look at Texas A and m AS
(32:45):
a three seed and think they have a much better
path to the finals than Ohio State does. Ohio State
probably as the one. I don't want to play Notre
Dame in the second round. I mean, let me rephrase that.
In Ohio State, Notre Dame Rose would be like the
most traditional college football thing there could be ever be
Like everything would turn black and white except for the field,
(33:08):
and it would be Grantlin. Rice would come like riding
in on a trolley and it would be like, you know,
that would be phenomenal. That said, that's that's not the
matchup you want in the first game. As an Ohio
State person, you would much rather have Ole miss or Miami. Yeah,
that's Ohio State is favored by probably two touchdowns maybe
(33:29):
more in either of those, maybe maybe twenty I would
I would take that, and then you know, and then
Indiana or Oregon or Alabama. I would probably rather play
any of those teams than play Georgia in the second
round like that. This obviously, this is not finalized. We're
not saying, oh, it's unfair, just looking at the potential
(33:50):
pass here. This is another year when I look at
the number one team and I go, I don't know
that they're getting any advantage whatsoever being the number one team.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
And that's my question. And it's a small stamp size,
and we don't even actually know what it's going to
look like this year. But if it's the two years
in a row the number one seed overall gets like
the worst road, then at some point we need to
revisit this and figure out exactly how how can you
reward the one seed. And it's like, well, maybe because
you know, you don't the best teams are the ones
(34:22):
that are the best and don't have the easiest schedule,
and I think the number one seed is often maybe
has like one of the easiest roads, and some of
these better teams have harder roads, but they've got a
couple of losses or loss a show for it. So
I don't know that there's any great way to fix it.
What I do know is that when you've got these
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four teams here, and basically it's the winner and the
loser of the SEC championship game in a Big Ten
championship game, the the purpose of playing those games is
diminished and essentially pointless, and we can go back to
naming Big Ten champs or conference champs based on their
regular season record. We don't need to have a conference
championship game. They're a relatively new invention in college football,
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so we may have to go back away from them,
but that doesn't that's just my own personal opinion. I
would like to see the number one seed get rewarded
for number one, but I don't know necessarily how you
do it with the uncontrollable, chaotic situation of college football.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, I love this suggestion for Mike Frino, who says
the two hardest pass on the graphic of the top
two seeds top sheet seeds, you can use their path. Now,
I only want to do this. First of all, I
absolutely want to do this. But my only stipulation for
me too, as the commissioner of college football, allow this
to happen is we're going the acc replay style where
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the teams their team is going to be sitting in
the room and they're going to have five minutes to
decide which of the lines they want to be on.
But that whole meeting has to be broadcast. Everyone gets
to hear when they go. You know, when someone goes,
have you seen ole miss? They are a bunch of bums?
Then and then that's why. And then the coach has
(36:06):
come out and go, well boy, we really respect everyone
all in those bracket and oh boy, no, we all
heard what you said one hundred percent. That would be
like you can show us people sitting in a committee
in a conference room in Grapevine, Texas and whatever, like
everyone's gonna watch because they're gonna watch. But man, oh man,
can you imagine the ratings for you know, Ryan Days
(36:27):
has to sit around a table with everyone else and
debate which team they think they would whoop worst or
you know, or Mike Elko or kurtz Signetti. Man, Kurt Signetti,
Kurt Signetti would talk it. Kurt Signetti might do that anyway,
like Kurtzignetti might do that even if that's not part
of the playoff process. But man, that would be such
good TV.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Lane Kiffin would tweek through the entire thing, whether he's
on the show or not. But boy, that would be
amazing and provide behind the scenes look that we're never
ever going to be permitted to see. But maybe for
an extra twenty million for that program as we know, hey,
help put it in the NIL fund. And coaches might
do a bunch of whatever I've seen. There used to
(37:09):
be a coach at LSU that would, you know, pose
and dance with recruits and sure did it work?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Was he good at it?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Was it hard on the eyes? Yes, but you do things.
And boy, that would be fantastic. That would be That
would be must watch TV and the most important ways
possible because we all live and die with this, and
then to see the thoughts and the actual thoughts and
(37:39):
then to then, as you said, Tom, have to go
and defend what you've said, and you better not lose.
Go go lose to that team and see how that
gets put out on social media. You know all of
these like the schools, the football account, Twitter account is
already like coming after you beforehand, like you know, all right,
(38:01):
bet you know all of these things where it's like
it is on you have created chaos, you have started
a fire that you cannot control. So yes, I would
vote for that. I don't know how a coach could
have an issue with that.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, no, I I frankly I think that's that's the
answer for literally everything, like the college basketball How exciting
would the selection show be if every coach had you know,
tom as It would take seventeen minutes and take three
time outs, So that that's a possible downfall. But yeah,
you got to choose. You get to choose like the
two seed in your rate, your region. If you're the
one seed, yeah, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yes, just let them put the let them put the
entire bracket together.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
The way the way you do it a lot of
times in youth sports is you just get to put
if you're the one seed, you put your name on
the bracket somewhere and then the two the two seed
they put their name on the bracket somewhere and then
you fill it out and everyone gets to choose, and
it's like, you know, oh you want to you want
you think you want to play me? Huh? Are right?
So yeah, that's a good way to do it. Mike
(39:02):
Ferguson says bold prediction Victory Bellringer will be coach Tressel
on Saturday because of his presence. OSU punt seven times,
then wins by a field goal in the last two minutes. Man,
can I tell you the level of angst inside that
stadium if that happens?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah? Not great. Fortunately for Jim Tressell, he'd never had
to battle the Rutgers Scarlet Knights.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That is true. Per at FD sportsbook, I think is FanDuel.
These are your spreads for projected CFP first round games
to Lane at Texas Tech minus twenty one and a half,
Notre Dame minus three and a half at Oklahoma, Alabama
at Oregon, which is minus four and a half, and
Miami at Ole Miss, which is minus three and a half.
You know, Notre Dame being on the road at Texas
(39:48):
at Oklahoma and being a three and a half point favorite.
That tells me Notre Dame should probably be seated ahead
of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Well, you know, that's maybe if they were in a conference.
Until they get into a I'm not gonna give them
any benefit of the doubt time. You can go ahead
and do that. You've been a Notre Dame apologist for
as long as I've known you, and no reason for
you to stop now. But yeah, that's you know, but
I've seen people say why not just let Vegas see
these things out. I'm okay with the committee and some
(40:16):
computers and all of that stuff, but it is interesting
that if you are the home underdog, then maybe you
should be the road underdog instead.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Mmmm. Well, but that was last year the whole I mean,
and that was a different setup obviously, but they really
screwed the pooch with the seating last year, where all
of the uh lower you know, all the teams that
played in that first round all won the second round,
like the all the teams that got first round buys
(40:48):
all lost in the semi fi or the quarterfinals. And yes,
two of those were because they had to put the
conference champions there under the initial format last year, but
two of them were not and it was just it
was a not a good not a good setup last year.
It's bad in a different way probably this year, but
you know, we'll see it'll be fun, bad but fun.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Proof that it's time to go to twenty four teams. Tom,
I think that's the best way to end the show tonight.
We want to thank everybody for everything. Thank you everybody
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(41:31):
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Oh did I just see one? Are we.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Mike for you know? Posted this on the board on Sunday,
But the College Football Nerds model has Notre Dame is
the toughest matchup for Ohio State. Yeah, I mean and
you could absolutely, absolutely see that they do a lot
of stuff that would be a challenge to Ohio State.
I think they can make it a rock fight, but
they also can throw the ball a little bit. You know,
they wouldn't be favored against Ohio State, but you could
you could certainly see why that would be the case.
(42:11):
I don't I wouldn't have them as the toughest matchup, but.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, I mean, slow down, Jeremiah Love and then everything
else good that will will happen most likely, But I mean,
and they're getting better, and we'll talk more about them,
maybe at some point we watch one of their games
here in the very near future. I'm sure we're gonna
be doing that for a lot of these teams, or
at least possibly a lot of these teams. So that
(42:35):
will do it from here. Once again, thank you all
for tuning in, and we will talk to you all later.
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going? Sorry, Froz,
how's it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Going well, Tony? I'm being involuntarily subjected to college basketball?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
How are you well doing? Doing well? As I watched
the clock actually move? Well, no, now it's stopped. I
don't know if it's moving for you. I'm behind you
as you know. But fortunately we've done these games before,
these shows before where there's like they've gone to overtime
and we've been, you know, like waiting and waiting and waiting.
But I don't think, barring an unforeseen miracle, I don't
(00:43):
think this one's going to go to overtime. So we
should get started here in a few minutes with the
rankings reveal. And hey, welcome everybody to our Tuesday night
Rankings Reveal live show. Welcome onboard the biggest show, the
biggest reveal of any college football week of the year.
This week, is that right, Tom.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, the the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, which is a daily
podcast that fall weekly. This is the weekly revealed of
the year. That is the biggest of the week today today, Yeah, right,
Hopefully hopefully you all follow that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, so if you guys are interesting, confusing, go ahead
and throw in your super chats. We'll take those right away,
and we'll obviously talk about the rankings, of which there
are two top ten losses this week, with Bama losing
to number eleven Oklahoma and number ten Texas losing to
number five Georgia. Two SEC teams losing in the top ten. Wow,
(01:40):
couldn't be me, could not be me?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, it was. This is a week where you didn't
have a ton change. But it'll be interesting to see
how the committee moves things around after Alabama had had
that lost. Texas obviously is going to fall out of
the out of the field right now. And you know,
if they beat Texas A and M, I guess we'll
have a long and fascinating conversation about them in a
(02:06):
couple of weeks. But you know right now, I mean
we were talking before the and I will put up
last week's rankings. These are not current, These are last
week's rankings, just so you see where people were before
last week. Number ten, Texas, number four Alabama both lost.
We were talking beforehand about the fact that Alabama, you know,
(02:28):
I don't think they're going to fall that far you
you think they might fall. I think they lead to
Morgan and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, and then if they're right there, like Oklahoma
at number eleven is going to move up. So at
some point do they cross paths? And if they do,
can you have Oklahoma behind Alabama right now?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm always saying that once you have multiple losses, everything's
out the window in terms of head to head. But
when it's something that they can compare to and if
they're in the same grouping, they will doesn't mean that
they're going to side with it. But boy, if they're
trying to avoid controversy, they would want to put oh
you ahead of Bama. Actually town, If they're trying to
(03:10):
avoid controversy, they'll try to find a way to keep
Alabama away from Oklahoma, like you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, and that's you know, that's that's where you get
into you know, Notre Dame is ahead of Miami. How
could Notredame be have Miami? My Notre Dame is you know,
Notre Dame is you know lost to Miami. Well, Miami
is fifteenth in the actual top twenty five. Notre Dame
is ninth. And so that's not close enough that you
actually get to the point where that's a point of comparison.
So that's how Notre Dame is ahead of Miami right now.
(03:40):
You know Texas A and M. Like man, oh man,
I say, I comment about being down twenty seven to
a three win team, It was thirty to three. In
case you somehow missed it, it was thirty to three.
South Carolina over over Texas A and M at halftime
in College station, and Texas A and M came back
to win. But I'm guessing that will not be something
that is going to vault them up the the rankings.
(04:01):
I'm going to remove this just so we don't have
anyone join us late and get confused that that's the
new rankings. Will we'll see when we have We'll have
an updated version of that coming up very soon. Oh Tony.
They're going to explain to us how the college football
playoff works.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They also anyone watching this who is not aware of
how the college football playoff works.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, they also explain how college football overtime works. That
would be grand. Thank you for that. Watching that Texas
A and M first half that was some of the
worst quarterback play I've seen all year. And then he
threw for like Marcel read through for like two hundred
and forty yards in the third quarter, and I see
national people, national person saying, oh, this is this is
(04:43):
why you know, if he brings them back, I'm voting
for him for Heisman. And it's just insanity to see
a player play so poorly. And there were interceptions dropped
that he threw that we're not converted, So I mean
South Carolina did him a favor by only intercepting I
don't know two or three of his passes, because there
(05:03):
are five or six that they could have and they
just didn't. And then for South Carolina to completely choke
away not a surprise. After you saw how quickly Texas
A and M scored that first touchdown in the third quarter,
you're like, well, this looks like it's going to be
as hilarious as we think it's going to be. You
need one of these every year in college football, and
(05:24):
we got one against kind of a bit of a
joke program this year that was probably top thirteen in
the preseason or so. In South Yurolina.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They were one of the teams that was top fifteen,
top twenty. You know, they were in that you know,
the seven SEC teams between ten and twenty in the
preseason rankings kind of clump of teams and have just
not been you know, they've lost every game, and everyone
wants to say, well, they've played a bunch of good
teams and lost to them, Like, yeah, they've lost all
the good teams they've played, So that tells me they
(05:54):
are probably not a good team if they are consistently
not able to beat any good teams at all despite
having multiple chances to do so. So yeah, I you know,
I think Texas A and M is a high variance
team where if they get on the right day, they
can beat you. But this is not a remarkable Notre
Dame offense this year, especially and especially was not at
the beginning of the year. And they gave up forty
(06:16):
points to Notre Dame in Week one in South Bend
or two whatever that was. Now that was a that
that has turned out to be a pretty decent win,
especially on the road. But if your defense is giving
up forty points, then your offense is you know, has
turned the ball over four times in the first half
or whatever it was within them, Like that's not. You
(06:38):
know that that is probably not a team that's going
to be able to string together the consistency you need
to beat three to four good teams in a row.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Rabul Stash asks who replaces Macroads tonight? Mac Roades has
stepped away. I have the email. If I told you
the name, would you remember? Would I remember having read
it and heard it? Of course, not just some dude,
I mean some college football guy. Do you need to
know anywhere than that? Would you know him if you
saw him at a restaurant, if you walked into Fazzoli's.
(07:08):
Would you know him if you saw him? So why
do you need me to tell you?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah? One hundred year Achek, who is ar Kansas has
apparently nothing better to do right now than to be
on the college football Playoff selection committee. Soa back roads
from Baylor, who may also be in the in the
I need to replace my football coach market in the
next few months.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's been a tumultuous season, Tony.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
They may be in a similar situation in Maryland where
it's just like, well, we're not going to get We're
going to be at the bottom of the totem Paul,
we might just want to sit this, sit this circus
out and see what happens next year when I'm sure
things are completely called next.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Year mm hmm, oh yeah for sure, have you Yeah,
this is this is definitely a hiring cycle with all
the coaches that are on the market, all the openings
that are on the market, and then you know, hey,
you look at how many big, big, good jobs are open,
and you look at how many good coaches are potentially available.
It's like, hmmm, someone's going to get left standing without
(08:12):
a chair at the end of this, and maybe more
than one someone. So yeah, this is this is going
to be a fun, a fun hiring cycle to watch.
You know, someone just spent tens of millions of dollars
to fire a coach and is not going to be
happy with the guy they get to replace him.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So you know, I'm thinking about Ole Miss fans right
now who want Lanekiffin to stay because he's gotten them
consistently where they haven't been, you know, David Cutliff, Cutcliff
got them here and there. But knowing that you're probably
gonna lose him, and then who knows what you become
after that with whoever you're going to land, You feel
(08:51):
for them because right now they're in a good spot
where they're playoff bound ish every year and they don't
necessarily to make it every year. They're they're they're happy
with being around it. I wonder if at some point
with if Kevin sticks around, they eventually get tired of
it and then he becomes like you never stay stay
around so long that you become the villain type of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But that maybe that may be a matter of days. Yeah,
I mean different there we have a super chat for
Mike Farinos or waiting for the rankings to come up.
Is there a better pair than Virginia Tech and Franklin?
Sounds like it should be a perfect fit now, Yeah,
I have I have thought several times in the past
when Justin Fointe came over from Memphis, I was like,
oh man, that is a great and that did like
(09:36):
that did not work at all. So it seems like
it should be a good opportunity. Like you're already starting
to see some indications that some Penn State commits and
decommits may follow him to Blacksburg. If he can bring
some of his coaching staff there, if he can get
some you know, you probably have some players transferring off
the current roster after the season heading down to Blacksburg,
(09:59):
you know, the Penn State roster was not good enough
to win in the Big Ten. Allow me to assure
you the Penn State roster is plenty good to win
the ACC and that I mean that could be a
you know, the expectations there are not national championship. If
he can get Virginia Tech to ten and two next
year and in the College Football playoff conversation, you know,
that's what he did that had Penn State fans grumbling
(10:22):
all the time. And you know then that what was
not good enough at Penn State is going to be
plenty good. And in Blacksburg they are touspling through this.
I forgot they are going. They're going at warp speed here.
So number twenty five is Arizona State number twenty four, two,
Lane number twenty three, Houston number twenty two, Missouri number
(10:44):
twenty one, Illinois number twenty Tennessee number nineteen, Virginia number eighteen,
Michigan number seventeen. Texas they take a major tumble. Number
sixteen Virginia Tech or sorry, Georgia Tech, not Virginia Tech
have next year, Yes, that's next year. Wow, but just
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the haper speed here.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So well, boy, they did not like that lost for Texas.
But it got ugly late.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It did, it did, and well, and it's I don't
know that that was. That wasn't a terrible loss. It
was just it was a close game for three quarters basically,
and then Kirby Smart hit the gas and then it
was no longer a close game.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Classless on sidekick.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Not all Tennessee moves up three spots, but that was
I think because Iowa and uh Pit. I think the
three teams ahead of them all lost.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's because they beat New Mexico State.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah. Well, listen among us number fifteen USC up two.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Spots following a ranked win over a then ranked Iowa team.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Illinois went from unranked to twenty one was a fourteen Vanderbilt,
which still absolutely that's exactly where they were last week.
That still just fills my heart with joy to see
Vandy among these, like, I mean, legitimately among the periphery
of the college football playoff picture number thirteen Miami.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And right now you're going to be one to have
to be in. You're gonna want to be in the
top ten to make the playoffs. At this point with
with the ACC being outside of the number and the
group of five definitely being outside the number.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
YEP. One thing that did change this past week that
we were I think both deeply hoping for was you
no longer have the real possibility of two group of
five teams making the play at the field because Duke
loss and now Duke the dream of a four loss
ACC champion Duke is now dead. So rip to a
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real one.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, thank you, thank you Virginia for ruining all of
our hopes and dreams by beating Duke.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Number two twelve, Utah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Up one spot, so BYU e yu, And now we
start to get interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Now now is when you need to really start paying attention.
I mean by you will get by you will probably
oh no, because Texas Tech is going to be and
so BYU will be probably the first one out because
the top ACC team. I don't I think we've already
seen the top ACC team, right, number ten Alabama? Wow,
you were right. I was wrong. That was they were.
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They were significantly punished for that loss.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So this will be Notre Dame or Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh. We're going to talk about Alabama for a while,
probably about how unfair.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It is well, Notre Dame was the top ranked two
loss team before Oklahoma with the benefit of this win,
which is now as good as any noted better than
any Notre Dame win at this point. Yeah, so why
not jumped them? We know how much the committee loves
to have these SEC teams being at the top of
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the best two loss team, the best three loss team,
the best one loss team.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Number nine is Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So then that has to be well, it doesn't have
to be.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Tony. The committee starts every week with a blank sheet
of paper. I'm not sure if you know that or not.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
With this blank sheet, do they also tally up the
losses that each team has?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, that does seem to be a job one. Why
when they get together in Lovely Grapevine, Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How many SEC losses? Because that counts better.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
We got to talk about the pacing of this show.
Number eight is Oklahoma, so above them in some order
is going to be probably Oregon, Texas Tech, Georgia, Texas A,
and m Indiana Ohio State. That would kind of be
chalk if they just.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Move everybody up one. Yeah, that would make the most
sense because then then well, although at some point if
if it's a blank sheet every time and data changes,
don't you have to change things up so that you're
not just doing the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Number seven Oregon. I think the answer, Tony is no,
we don't have to do that. Tony, I'm not sure
how blank the piece of paper is.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You can see what they wrote last week. It's like
the indented. All you have to do is shade in
the areas and you can see the letters come to life.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Mike Rerinosy is one of the podcasts. I'll listen. You
mentioned that Texas never had the ball with a chance
to tire a lead for the final forty two minutes.
Never verified it, but seems odd. They might have just
always been, you know, down two scores, and then they score,
and then they're down one score. But then Georgia answers
Number six Ole miss.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chalk, mm hmm. Mike Freno, Duke still has a somewhat
viable path through the a SEC Championship. It's not likely,
but it's also not too unlikely. Five percent chance. Maybe
I think this is Lloyd Christmas type of thinking here.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now, I'm going to remember the name of the website
that I used to find like tiebreakers for conference championship.
At number five is Texas Tech. Yeah, so Tony, if
they didn't actually start with a blank sheet of paper.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's amazing, it would be really funy.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They moved like Georgia over unbeaten Texas A and M
and just watched Texas A and M fans lose their minds.
That's that's about our last.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Because I mean, you know, Texas A and M's win
over South Carolina quality win. Indiana's win over Wisconsin not
a quality win. If you wanted to jump to Hoosiers
right now, who's gonna say.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Boo number four? No, that was last year. That was
that was Boo quarter and that was last year. Number
four is Georgia.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So right now is it looking like Georgia and uh,
Texas A and M and the SEC championship game.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I believe that's where it is. You have number three
Texas A and M number to Indiana and that will
be unless unless they somehow left Ohio State off this week. No, oh,
thank what a relief. They did not Ohio state number one.
So all right, so number one Ohio state, number two, Indiana,
number three, Texas A and M number four Georgia number five,
Texas Tech, number six, ole Miss number seven, Organ number eight, Oklahoma,
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number nine, Notre Dame, number ten, Alabama. That's your top ten.
Your first round is Tulane in Texas Tech, Oklahoma and
Notre Dame Miami and ole Miss, Alabama and Oregon. And
then the team's getting buys into the second round Georgia,
Ohio State, Texas A and M Indiana. I will put
this together real quick for you and then we will
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get get moving. I gotta say, the number five team,
Texas Tech, that is a real, real good spot to
be because you're getting the not you're getting the non
the non power conference team, which in this case is Tulane,
and you're getting you know, and then you're playing Georgia. Now,
Georgia as the number four seed. That is a you know,
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that's a I think I would rather play Georgia than
Texas A and M or. I'm sorry, I rather play
Texas A and M or Indiana than Georgia right now.
I mean, do you disagree?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was telling I'm sorry, Whould, I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Would you Georgia? Who would you rather play? Right now? Georgia,
Texas A and M or Indiana like, if you're if
you have to be in a semi final against one
of those teams, which one would you rather play?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Probably Texas A and M. Yeah, I would Indiana.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think Georgia is uh. I think Georgia is probably
last on my list, And you know, I don't want
to fall prey to recency bias here. They're playing better,
they are definitely playing better, and there's not there's not
a team right now that I look at and go unbeatable,
absolutely unbeatable. But I mean, I think Georgia. I think
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Georgia is a pretty complete package right now, or at
least they're becoming a more complete package than they were before.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I would agree just looking. Ohio State has two ranked wins,
number seventeen and number twenty one. Indiana has no one
ranked win over number seven Oregon, Texas A and M
two ranked wins number nine and number twenty two. Alright,
it's Mike ferguson the super Chat. The desperation to keep
Bama in is unreal. They are, They're right at that
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cut line at ten. It's interesting, but I don't have
an issue with them at that spot because when I
put BYU in over them, no Utah, No, No, I
mean Miami is certainly not so like I think there
might actually be just a good cutoff spot in the
first ten. Yeah, and then the second ten is a
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little bit different. And I'm not I'm not saying Bamas
any great shake, no, you know, but I think they're
more capable than everybody but below them. And we know
they're more capable than Vandy. What might I see in
USC and Alabama? Go at it though?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah? USC, And I'm just adding the USC graphic the
first four out list and then I'll get the graphic
on the screen so over and can kind of see
this and we can, uh, you can play along at home.
I I look at there are a couple of teams
that I look at and think maybe maybe gonna make
a better run at you know, either making it or
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making a run in the playoff. Then you would have
thought a couple uh, a couple of weeks ago. One
of them to me is USC, Like if USC, USC
has I believe they have Oregon and again right at Oregon,
and then you will U see la they win those
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two they're probably in I mean you're close enough right now,
you're you're probably in Oregon. Is I saw a question earlier,
you know, if Oregon loses to USC but beats Washington,
are they in? And the answer is, I don't know.
It depends, like the most exciting answer there is, it
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depends where. You know. You tell me what seven other
teams do, and I'll tell you you know, whether Oregon
is in at that point.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But if I look at Georgia as a team that
I wouldn't you know, if I was a coach, I
wouldn't mind seeing Georgia on the other side of the
bracket and not next to me. In terms of some
of the lower ranked teams, Like I don't think anyone
wants Ohio State. I don't you know, behind Ohio State,
Georgia might be the second biggest team that you probably
don't want to see of the lower ranked teams. Notre Dame.
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You could see Notre Dame make a run this year
that they just they seem like they they can run
the ball in a way and CJ. Carr has come
a long way since the beginning of the season, and
you know, they've got a good defense. That's a team
that I don't know that you'd love to see opposite you.
I mean Notre Dame Oklahoma as a first round game, Like, man,
that would be a banger that I think that would
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be a heck of a football.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And if USC can beat Oregon, I think there's enough
room for Oregon and USC to both make it because
when you look at the I kind of put the
cut line at two losses, and then some of those
two loss teams aren't going to get in, Like I
don't think Vandy at ten and two. They've got Kentucky
and Tennessee left, so they won't have a ranked win.
Tennessee would drop off at that point with another loss,
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and Vandy already is kind of on the way out.
So like I see USC with a win over Oregon
jumping and getting at that point pretty close to that
ten line mark. But then you got to figure, like, Okay,
which which ten or eleven teams are we talking about
here with two losses, because you know there's probably you
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got Texas with two losses are fewer, So you got Texas,
A and m Georgia, all Miss Alabama, Oklahoma, that's you know,
that's five right there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Here's here's a question from Mike that I'm sure other
people are asking, So why does this graphic have tak
twelve in the list and then show tu Lane at
twelve on the bracket. Well, the bracket includes the top
five conference champions, so you've got number one. You know,
we'll just take the currently highest ranked team neat of
these conferences, So number one Ohio State Big ten champion,
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number three Texas A and m SEC champion, and then
number five Texas Tech Big twelve champion, Number eleven Miami
or number thirteen Miami ACC champion, and then Tulane which
is twenty four is the highest ranked non power conference champion,
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so they would slot in that twelfth spot, like like
Boise State. I think Boise State actually did finish in
the top twelve last year. But if you regardless of
where you finish, if you are the fifth highest ranked
Group of five conference champion, you're in and you're gonna
get slotted in in one of those spots. So number
eleven and number twelve on the bracket are actually lower
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than that on the rankings, but because they are the
projected right now conference champions, they would slot in there.
And you know, Vanderbilts in an interesting spot because you've
got Texas Tech is going to play you know, b
Yu or Utah is going to play Texas Tech in
the Big Twelve Championship game, and if they don't win,
you know, they're gonna they're gonna fall below Vanderbilt Miami.
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I don't know that Miami even has.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
A path to the That's what I wanted to pass.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's an ACC title, right they're.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Four and two right now, and there are four teams
with one loss ahead of them, and they've lost to
one of them in SMU. So that's and they've lost.
You know, Louisville's out of it now. But the Georgia Tech,
who they did not play, won't will not play Virginia
who they did not play and will not play. They
lost to SMU and they will not play. They they're
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at Pitt to end the season, so that could get
them over Pitt, but they're still jo Virginia and SMU
to worry about, and they probably can't get over SMU
unless SMU loses twice at this point because of that.
So there's there's a path, but it's very thin, and
I don't know that there's a path for two ACC teams,
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just like there may not be a path for two
Big Twelve teams.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Right, and Georgia Tech only has one ACC game left.
They play Pitt this weekend. Pit, of course, the central figure,
the main character in the entire college football university, Pitt Panthers.
They play Georgia Tech this weekend and then they play
Miami next weekend. If Georgia Tech wins this weekend, they
are functionally in the ACC Championship I think, because they
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would have one loss and that loss was to North
Carolina State, which is like way down the list, so
they should be fine. They played Georgia next weekend. So
you know, the way you get two ACC teams in
is Georgia Tech wins week against against Pitt, Georgia Tech
wins next week against Georgia and then loses in the
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ACC Championship game. That's how you would get two ACC
teams in. Probably not, and you know that's that was
It's a you know, it's theoretically possible, but not particularly likely.
I you know, like I said, I really like how
george is playing right now, and I was, I watched
the game last year. Don't worry, you know, so I
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am aware of what could what it could be. But yeah,
that would be that would be a little bit of
a surprise. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure no
one actually watched Georgia Tech last week against Boston College.
I was watching that on the scoreboard at Ohio Stadium
because that was happening at the same time as the
Buckeyes game, and Boston College, which is currently one in ten,
was leading for the vast majority of that game. In
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Georgia Tech really pulled one out of yes, hind quarters
to uh to win that one, what thirty six thirty
four or something like that. It was. It was not
a game that you should have if you were appearing
on this graphic.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So I'm looking at this and for the every week
in Row Ohio say, it certainly does not have the
easiest road. Now, let's keep in mind this is not
exactly how things will shake out once conference championships and
all that. But it is interesting that the two SEC
teams I think would have the easier road than the
two Big ten teams in this precise exact scenario.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, and again a bunch of this stuff. You have
minor changes in the in the rankings, and it turns
into I end up shuffling half the stuff around on
the graphic on the right. So Yeah, this is this
is still very much you know, don't don't book your
travel plans based on this. Mike Frano says, Duke's path
is that Duke wins out, they beat North Carolina in wake.
Those are both plausible, plausible to likely. Georgia Tech Overpit,
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that's certainly a possibility. SMU has to lose one of
Cal or Louisville. M Cal not gonna happen against Cal.
It could be the birds with teeth could get them maybe,
And then Virginia Tech beats UVA, which is one of
those things that happened literally every year, but this year
it really shouldn't happen. But who knows, Maybe they will
have that James Franklin magic.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Each of the any of those things could happen, and
it wouldn't be a surprise. All of those things is
how we all lose parlays. I will say, Miami's at
Virginia Tech this week. Let's see what the James Franklin
boosts does there, not that he's coaching. Yeah, good thing
for Virginia Tech. Now it's a cheap shot. But let's
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see what kind of energy they've got going on there,
and let's see if it's a little chili rain. And
then you might see some Hurricanes struggling. Yes, which what
used to be a pretty cool rivalry by the way,
back in the Big East days.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Virginia Tech and Miami Miami. Oh yeah, yeah, back in
the back in the Michael vic days, and oh yeah
that was those are great Lee sugs. Oh yes, we
can spend a bunch of time naming some guys.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Corey Moore on the defensive line, for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was looking to see a bunch of starred questions.
But we've done all the starred questions. Okay, the super chats,
so we have you know, this is this is another
one where you look and you go, Okay, which is
the which is.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The uh.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Super check? Mike person Tech makes a bowl and plays
Penn State this year. Well, that would require Penn State
to win six games, which maybe maybe, and then also
to be willing to play a bowl game, because that
is a coaching staff that might not be staying together
and a team that might not be staying together. They
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might they might be. Man, I gotta tell you, I
just googled Penn State football schedule, and the little thing
at the top of Google says Penn said, Nidney Allons
football fifteenth in the Big Ten. Like like, I mean,
I know, I'm aware, I understand you don't like man,
that is rough being a member for eight months. Thank you.
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I've bumped into Doreen at the stadium on Saturday night
and they's got more games they need to win both
of them. They have to beat Nebraska at home and
then they have to beat Rutgers so on the road.
That could that could very well be. If Penn State
can handle their business this week, that could be a
loser leaves Town match Rutgers Penn State only one can
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be Bowl eligible. Just how the n line thought it
was going to go two scores in both remaining games.
Let me quickly got in state Nebraska line because that
doesn't sound right. I mean, oh Nebraska lost there. Yeah,
they don't have Dylan Roola.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Still and Rutgers is not very good, but let's see.
I think one interesting point about the James Franklin thing
is seeing all of the commitments compared to what's going
on at like LSU, where players commit to James Franklin,
players commit to l s U the different kind of coaches.
So I think that's a quality thing. For Virginia to
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What's Jordan Kapler got to say?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Jordan Kapler says, what would the super chat requirement be
to get Tom to call on The Fine Long Show
and make a case for Penn State to get in
the playoffs of Obama because of quality losses? Listen, listen, listen.
I mean who they lose to? They lost to Oregon.
You see Oregon on this graphic. Don't you you see
Ohio State? You see Ohio State in this graphic. Don't
you do you see UCLA?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But who did UCLA play last week? Ohio State, thank
you very much. Who did Penn State play last week?
Doesn't matter? They won quality win. I mean it's they
beat Michigan State. You just saw Michigan State beat Kentucky
and basketball. That's a quality SEC win. That's a transitive
win for Penn State football over Kentucky basketball. I don't
think I don't think you need a super Chick. I
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don't think you need to have any super chat anything.
I mean, you're welcome to about tree Fitty is the
is the suggestion from the Peanut Gallery.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But I think you know in the past what we've done,
We've had Keviny two jars of pickles. I think if
he does that, then you call it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If Kevin eats two jars of pickles, Yes, yes, then
you call in. I've seen Kevin eat two jars of pickles.
You know what, I've never seen three jars three jars
of pickles, not a one I have.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
But that's a totally different story. It was just a
random Tuesday with the barbecue going and things of that nature.
I'm sorry, grill smoker.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So which of these teams looking at this, which of
these teams do you look at and go easy path
and like very difficult path because you know, I look
at Texas A and m AS they're the same team.
Well yeah, I look at Texas A and m AS
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a three seed and think they have a much better
path to the finals than Ohio State does. Ohio State
probably as the one. I don't want to play Notre
Dame in the second round. I mean, let me rephrase that.
In Ohio State, Notre Dame Rose would be like the
most traditional college football thing there could be ever be
Like everything would turn black and white except for the field,
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and it would be Grantlin. Rice would come like riding
in on a trolley and it would be like, you know,
that would be phenomenal. That said, that's that's not the
matchup you want in the first game. As an Ohio
State person, you would much rather have Ole miss or Miami. Yeah,
that's Ohio State is favored by probably two touchdowns maybe
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more in either of those, maybe maybe twenty I would
I would take that, and then you know, and then
Indiana or Oregon or Alabama. I would probably rather play
any of those teams than play Georgia in the second
round like that. This obviously, this is not finalized. We're
not saying, oh, it's unfair, just looking at the potential
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pass here. This is another year when I look at
the number one team and I go, I don't know
that they're getting any advantage whatsoever being the number one team.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
And that's my question. And it's a small stamp size,
and we don't even actually know what it's going to
look like this year. But if it's the two years
in a row the number one seed overall gets like
the worst road, then at some point we need to
revisit this and figure out exactly how how can you
reward the one seed. And it's like, well, maybe because
you know, you don't the best teams are the ones
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that are the best and don't have the easiest schedule,
and I think the number one seed is often maybe
has like one of the easiest roads, and some of
these better teams have harder roads, but they've got a
couple of losses or loss a show for it. So
I don't know that there's any great way to fix it.
What I do know is that when you've got these
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four teams here, and basically it's the winner and the
loser of the SEC championship game in a Big Ten
championship game, the the purpose of playing those games is
diminished and essentially pointless, and we can go back to
naming Big Ten champs or conference champs based on their
regular season record. We don't need to have a conference
championship game. They're a relatively new invention in college football,
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so we may have to go back away from them,
but that doesn't that's just my own personal opinion. I
would like to see the number one seed get rewarded
for number one, but I don't know necessarily how you
do it with the uncontrollable, chaotic situation of college football.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, I love this suggestion for Mike Frino, who says
the two hardest pass on the graphic of the top
two seeds top sheet seeds, you can use their path. Now,
I only want to do this. First of all, I
absolutely want to do this. But my only stipulation for
me too, as the commissioner of college football, allow this
to happen is we're going the acc replay style where
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the teams their team is going to be sitting in
the room and they're going to have five minutes to
decide which of the lines they want to be on.
But that whole meeting has to be broadcast. Everyone gets
to hear when they go. You know, when someone goes,
have you seen ole miss? They are a bunch of bums?
Then and then that's why. And then the coach has
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come out and go, well boy, we really respect everyone
all in those bracket and oh boy, no, we all
heard what you said one hundred percent. That would be
like you can show us people sitting in a committee
in a conference room in Grapevine, Texas and whatever, like
everyone's gonna watch because they're gonna watch. But man, oh man,
can you imagine the ratings for you know, Ryan Days
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has to sit around a table with everyone else and
debate which team they think they would whoop worst or
you know, or Mike Elko or kurtz Signetti. Man, Kurt Signetti,
Kurt Signetti would talk it. Kurt Signetti might do that anyway,
like Kurtzignetti might do that even if that's not part
of the playoff process. But man, that would be such
good TV.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Lane Kiffin would tweek through the entire thing, whether he's
on the show or not. But boy, that would be
amazing and provide behind the scenes look that we're never
ever going to be permitted to see. But maybe for
an extra twenty million for that program as we know, hey,
help put it in the NIL fund. And coaches might
do a bunch of whatever I've seen. There used to
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be a coach at LSU that would, you know, pose
and dance with recruits and sure did it work?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Was he good at it?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Was it hard on the eyes? Yes, but you do things.
And boy, that would be fantastic. That would be That
would be must watch TV and the most important ways
possible because we all live and die with this, and
then to see the thoughts and the actual thoughts and
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then to then, as you said, Tom, have to go
and defend what you've said, and you better not lose.
Go go lose to that team and see how that
gets put out on social media. You know all of
these like the schools, the football account, Twitter account is
already like coming after you beforehand, like you know, all right,
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bet you know all of these things where it's like
it is on you have created chaos, you have started
a fire that you cannot control. So yes, I would
vote for that. I don't know how a coach could
have an issue with that.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, no, I I frankly I think that's that's the
answer for literally everything, like the college basketball How exciting
would the selection show be if every coach had you know,
tom as It would take seventeen minutes and take three
time outs, So that that's a possible downfall. But yeah,
you got to choose. You get to choose like the
two seed in your rate, your region. If you're the
one seed, yeah, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yes, just let them put the let them put the
entire bracket together.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
The way the way you do it a lot of
times in youth sports is you just get to put
if you're the one seed, you put your name on
the bracket somewhere and then the two the two seed
they put their name on the bracket somewhere and then
you fill it out and everyone gets to choose, and
it's like, you know, oh you want to you want
you think you want to play me? Huh? Are right?
So yeah, that's a good way to do it. Mike
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Ferguson says bold prediction Victory Bellringer will be coach Tressel
on Saturday because of his presence. OSU punt seven times,
then wins by a field goal in the last two minutes. Man,
can I tell you the level of angst inside that
stadium if that happens?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah? Not great. Fortunately for Jim Tressell, he'd never had
to battle the Rutgers Scarlet Knights.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That is true. Per at FD sportsbook, I think is FanDuel.
These are your spreads for projected CFP first round games
to Lane at Texas Tech minus twenty one and a half,
Notre Dame minus three and a half at Oklahoma, Alabama
at Oregon, which is minus four and a half, and
Miami at Ole Miss, which is minus three and a half.
You know, Notre Dame being on the road at Texas
(39:48):
at Oklahoma and being a three and a half point favorite.
That tells me Notre Dame should probably be seated ahead
of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Well, you know, that's maybe if they were in a conference.
Until they get into a I'm not gonna give them
any benefit of the doubt time. You can go ahead
and do that. You've been a Notre Dame apologist for
as long as I've known you, and no reason for
you to stop now. But yeah, that's you know, but
I've seen people say why not just let Vegas see
these things out. I'm okay with the committee and some
(40:16):
computers and all of that stuff, but it is interesting
that if you are the home underdog, then maybe you
should be the road underdog instead.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Mmmm. Well, but that was last year the whole I mean,
and that was a different setup obviously, but they really
screwed the pooch with the seating last year, where all
of the uh lower you know, all the teams that
played in that first round all won the second round,
like the all the teams that got first round buys
(40:48):
all lost in the semi fi or the quarterfinals. And yes,
two of those were because they had to put the
conference champions there under the initial format last year, but
two of them were not and it was just it
was a not a good not a good setup last year.
It's bad in a different way probably this year, but
you know, we'll see it'll be fun, bad but fun.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Proof that it's time to go to twenty four teams. Tom,
I think that's the best way to end the show tonight.
We want to thank everybody for everything. Thank you everybody
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Oh did I just see one? Are we.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Mike for you know? Posted this on the board on Sunday,
But the College Football Nerds model has Notre Dame is
the toughest matchup for Ohio State. Yeah, I mean and
you could absolutely, absolutely see that they do a lot
of stuff that would be a challenge to Ohio State.
I think they can make it a rock fight, but
they also can throw the ball a little bit. You know,
they wouldn't be favored against Ohio State, but you could
you could certainly see why that would be the case.
(42:11):
I don't I wouldn't have them as the toughest matchup, but.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, I mean, slow down, Jeremiah Love and then everything
else good that will will happen most likely, But I mean,
and they're getting better, and we'll talk more about them,
maybe at some point we watch one of their games
here in the very near future. I'm sure we're gonna
be doing that for a lot of these teams, or
at least possibly a lot of these teams. So that
(42:35):
will do it from here. Once again, thank you all
for tuning in, and we will talk to you all later.
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