November 11, 2025 • 51 mins
Tom Orr, Kevin Noon, and Tony Gerdeman react to the third CFP poll. They discuss the Big Ten's possibilities of four bids, the ACCs possibilities of no bids, and take questions from the live stream viewers about everything else.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or and because of
this Tuesday, also with Kevin. Nude, Tom, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No? No, no, no, no, I want to hear from Kevin.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
First.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's hear from Kevin. You hear from me all the time.
Let's hear from Kevin. Kevin, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Wow? Copyright infringement is what I'm hearing right now.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But he hasn't copyrighted it. It's just gimmicking.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I know he's lazy af but you know, but still,
I mean, he's he's thought about it. So that's that's
that's good enough. Possessions like nine tenths of the law
or something like that, or I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Intention intention is nine tenths of the law.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But no, good to be here. Looking forward to seeing
the rankings. I wonder how many people will be here
because they don't have access to ESPN. We we all
do in one way, shape or form. But of course
we all are watching on different providers. So you'll see
Tom will sit there and say, oh, so and so's
(01:11):
twenty third. I'll be like they are, because I'll have
to wait for it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm still at twenty five slow down.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Kevin perpetually surprised, and Tony about thirty seconds behind. That
sounds about very on brand for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So welcome everybody as we continue to allow more and
more people in. Kevin of course at the velvet ropes
letting people in no matter who, including speaking of the devil,
Ryan Dawes pops up. Hey, just kidding, Ryan, we get along.
Just find you and I. It's everybody else that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We don't like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey, can you guys pause so I can finish watching
the Purdue rewatch. You don't need to keep watching that game.
You can now watch like some UCLA games and see
what's coming for Ohio State because you've seen enough Purdue,
and Tom and I have seen enough Purdue, that's for sure.
I don't. I don't think we're gonna be watching any
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more Purdue.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think so, I mean we might we might watch
the Indiana Old Oaken Bucket game if Ohio State and
Indiana are going to play. That feels like something we
might end up having to do.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But yeah, I did see Nicholas Marconi just said, is
everyone prepared for the fund out. Let's see when we
get eight and four a CEC champion Duke. If we
get that, there may be no ACC team in the
conference in the College Football playoff. Keep in mind, it's
the four highest ranked conference champs in there, and if
the the group of five is in that, then you know, boom,
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there's your champs. And so that would be three Big
ten teams, six or seven SEC teams, and you know
ESPN will get what they want it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
One, yeah, one American team and probably James Madison. There's
a very narrow pathway for that to happen. And the
American champ has to win, you know, probably finish eleven
and one or ten and two at the worst, and
James Madison probably needs to win out and it would
have to probably be Duke winning out. But the reason
you know, Duke would finish eight and four or I
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guess nine and four after that. But they lost all
three of their non conference games, and not against like
amazing competition. They lost to They lost to Illinois, They
lost to Yukon, which you know, unless this is basketball,
those are not those are not great losses. And they
lost to one other, but yeah, that is that is
like a real possibility, And if you just want to
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just be rooting for just wild, insane crap, that is
that's the thing to root for. That is also the
thing to root for. If you want the Big Tens
proposal to have a set number of auto bids per league,
you want to watch how fast the ACC gets on board.
If that happens, it will not take long.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'm not here for this ACC, Slanders. I'm wearing in
C State clothing. My niece went to in C State
for one year to follow a boy. They broke up.
She's no longer there. I still have a sweatshirt, though,
is it his sweatshirt?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Has started their broadcast and is setting this up with
Texas A and M and Indiana and then then also
just throw a higher state up at the end. So
I think they're setting up the same thing that we
potentially set up in the In the title of the show,
will Texas A and M jump Ohigo State or Indiana?
You know, certainly the possibility of them jumping Indiana, as
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that's a real possibility after Indiana did not look amazing
on the road against Penn State. Yes, I watched the
same game you did, Tony. You haven't recorded the show
about it yet, but I watched the same game you did.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You said, don't what about that last drive Tom where
Fernanda Mendoza shredded the Penn State defense a very good defense.
I will remind you that unfortunately their offense, the Penn
State offense, has not been able to win any games.
But that defense is stout, that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
If you can make Gus Johnson's voice do with the
things that they made Gus Johnson's voice do, boy, you
must be some some kind of something. I just I'm
watching this this video intro and it's just you know, yes,
oh look there's Ohio State, Yes, there's uh, you know whoever.
But it's just like, oh, there's pitt What, there's there's Indiana,
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What there's uh, you know they they had a bunch
of Texas Tech, Like these are these are schools that
thirty six months ago you'd have said, here's the shows
that there's Vanderbilt, Like what, here's here's the show the
teams that they're putting in the intro to the college
Football playoff rankings reveal in Week two of twenty twenty five,
Uh yeah, things things have gotten a little weird, which
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you know what, I'm here for it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And Vanderbilt got away with one against Auburn this weekend.
Listening to that one on the way back from Purdue,
only one team in the top ten loses, and that
is BYU losing to Texas Tech. That's their first loss,
So it's it should be very a very similar kind
of Top ten. However, as we know, brand new clean
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sheet of paper every week, so it could be completely different.
It won't be completely different, but they're gonna take a
look at all of the brand new information that they've
gotten and then go from there and we will have
to decide. You guys have thrown out this clickbait garbage
about Texas A and M versus Indiana. Just enrages me. No,
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Texas A and M goes and wins at Missouri thirty
eight seventeen. Indiana goes and wins at Penn State twenty
seven to twenty four. Another quality win for Texas A
and M. I just can't get past the fact that
she gave up forty some points to Arkansas. That's going
to stick with me forever when we talk about Texas
A and M.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that's one thing, and I was just pulling up
their schedule because they have had you know, they've they've
got a bunch of helmets that they've beaten. They're nine
and zero and that's that's great. And they had a
forty one to forty win over Notre Dame and that's
a that's a very good win. But their wins so
far this year in SEC play, they beat Auburn, which
fired their coach. They beat Mississippi State, which has not
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I don't believe won a game in the SEC. They
beat Florida, which fired their coach. They beat Arkansas, which
fired their coach. They beat LSU, which fired their coach,
and they beat Missouri without their quarterback. And the remaining
schedule is South Carolina, who you know is certainly firing
their coach, curious or maybe hoping that maybe that he
will hope that Mama Mama from Blacksburg calls, and then
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Samford and then at Texas and that's it. So, you know,
you look at their schedule and you see the SEC
people complaining, well, Ohio State hasn't played anyone. Well, guess what.
Ohio State already has a win over the team that
is possibly going to end the year as the best
win on Texas A and M schedule, and Ohio State
already has a win over them, and that would be Texas.
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So you know, maybe maybe the Notre Dame game ends
up being, you know, being a better win. But you know,
those two teams were very close on the rankings last week,
and you know, so it'll it'll end up being it'll
end up being similar.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, LSU, they get the win over the you know,
LSU's now five and four, Missouri is now six and three,
and I will say Mississippi State does have one win
in conference, so let's give them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I apologize since Cincinnati your new number twenty five in
the nation, number twenty four the USF Bowls, Alex Golish,
we have a non power team in the top twenty five.
Get excited, everyone, It's about time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean, somebody's gonna be in there. Might as well
throw one in there now.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And now we're did an extended cut on the South
Florida Bowls.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So a Flora Bulls in case you haven't seen them,
because you probably haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
We saw them once. Maybe a get in what the
Miami game or the you know, the Florida game, where
they beat Florid probably when everybody saw them the one
time we saw them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The didn't they play the Friday night that we were
in Illinois. I think maybe were.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They did was that a Memphis Maybe I feels like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm watching that was that might have been North Texas.
I think Tennessee is number twenty three, up two spots.
Pit number twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Two also up two spots.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And now we're getting a pit breakdown. Man, the USF breakdown,
a pit breakdown. This is some real two thousand and sevens. Wow,
the Big East has a lot of contenders vibes here.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Let's see how the game.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
In a two thousand and seven ish season. Not quite
to the level of two thousand and seven, but close enough.
It's not blasphemy to say that number twenty one the
Iowa Hawkeyes down one spot.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Michigan has moved up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Michigan's best win a bye week, strengthening their resume.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, looking at Pitt Mason Heinscheld, Tom, you know that
that's your guy. You saw him in person. They've got
an offense there that could be an issue for somebody
in the first round if they can get there.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, Kevin, close your ears it was. I watched them
absolutely defenestrate Louisville at at Akroscher Stadium and a Mason Heinscheld,
I mean, throws a ball all over. My big takeaway
Number twenty Louisville, by the way, my big takeaway from
that was he throws. He's great, he's exciting, and then
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you watch him throw and it's like, why are these
balls all like a little behind someone or you know,
a little above or oh well it was a little
low and the receiver had to kind of go down
and get it. Otherwise you could have kept right like,
oh not everyone throws quite like Julian Sayan does. Number
nineteen Virginia. They are down five spots after a loss.
Number Michigan.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And Virginia is that they're going to be the highest
rated ACC team still probably Miami.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Louisville's down, Miami will still.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Georgia Tech is still okay, they're still there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, Georgia Tech was seventeen last week. We will
see if they move up or.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In Miami was eighteen. Talking about these Virginia Cavaliers.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Number seventeen USC.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Those big ten power up two spots Michigan and USC.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't think usc really has a road too. I
mean there's a road, but it's very rocky and tough
for them to manage. I think the best road maybe Michigan,
but it's just the last roadblock for that is pretty immense.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Tech sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And we will have a graphic with the full rank
as well as the projected bracket as soon as they're
done announcing them. Right now, I'm looking on number fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
They so Miami jumps Georgia Tech. Well, well, Miami got
the win over Syracuse. Georgia Tech was off last week,
so that was enough to get the bump there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And Syracuse is there are two Syracuses this year, one
before their quarterback got hurt and one after their quarterback
got hurt. Steve Aangelly, the Notre Dame transfer, got them
off to a pretty decent start, and then as soon
as he got hurt, they had nothing behind him and
they have been, you know, basically hopeless and helpless since then.
So you know, that might be a little bit of
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a watch this space. That may tell you what the
committee wants to do with Miami if they viewed that
as a jump them worthy win. Number fourteen is Vanderbilt
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, they also need to get Miami away from Louisville
so that they don't have to compare them head to head.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And we're also watching right now speaking of that, how
far apart are Miami and Notre Dame. Thirteen is Utah.
They have not moved from last week, but your Miami
is at fifteen. Notre Dame presumably going to be five
ish spots ahead still, so that will keep them far
enough away that you avoid the head to head stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
They group, they put them all in basically groups of three,
and they adjust them once they compare them. So basically
you've got Miami and Louisville are like six spots away,
five six spots away, so they're never going to be
in that same group of three, so they stay safe
and they can avoid the head to head just like
they can with Miami and Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm wondering if we're going to see BYU next, because
BYU got absolutely thumped by Texas Tech. Yep, there they are,
number twelve, but they will stay one spot ahead of
Utah because of the head to head. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, and that's kind of the the floor or the
UTAH is being capped basically by BYU right now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, Utah didn't move, and BYU fell to one spot
ahead of Utah.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Just so I don't have to tep this out quickly.
To Scott, I think I see Indiana staying ahead of Texas,
A and M. But I it's a clean sheet. Heard that.
I heard that, so you know we'll see. I listened
to satellite radio. Somebody from textags on there state and
all the reasons why it could go the other way.
I'm not I'm nots.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Were some of those reasons. Uh, they played nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now the Agg's been playing everybody. Everybody that's racist.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Uh. I don't think Aggie is a race as much
as they wish it was. Number eleven is Oklahoma, by
the way, so.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
They're up one spot as well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Number ten Texas also up one spot. This feels for
a thing that was a clean sheet. This does feel
a whole lot like one top ten team lost and
everybody take one step forward. Not so fast Utah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So this then should be notre dame with their win
over Navy.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, this is. They have not announced anything above number
ten Texas, but if everyone does just take one step up,
it would be number nine Notre Dame next and they
are poised.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
To tell us per chance.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, no, no, please take your time. ESPN doing a power
pause right now speaking.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
About arch manning Texas. I don't think they Their road
is also quite difficult because they're at Georgia this week
and then they also finish with Texas A and M.
So I don't see them getting in unless they can
do it with three losses.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, number nine Notre Dame, number eight Oregon again both
just moving on one spot the Texas Texas at nine
and three. You know, they either beat Georgia or they
beat Texas A and M. That feels like we're about
to have We're about to have a conversation, a Capital
C conversation about about Texas and and what you know,
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who's going to get left out for uh for a
Texas team that's nine and three, because if anyone is
going to get in at nine and three, that's the
kind of brand. And well, they just beat fill in
the blank that right now. Number Number seven is ole
miss they fall one spot. Texas Tech jumps them with
the win over BYU. So Texas Tech is six.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now that is the least they could do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They justified their hotel points in Grapevine, Texas by moving
Moving Texas A and a Texas Tech up one spot
over whole, Miss.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm sure there's a great breakfast buffet there.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
God, can you imagine, I mean, I can't imagine the
probably just different cuts of bacon as well. It's not
just your thick cut. Probably got your you know, your
your apple pie seasoned bacon, and there you get different
kinds of things, and then of course.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Bacon, of course your savory bacon.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But just imagine the biscuits and gravy, the gravy, the
kind of gravy that they would have there. And yet Tom,
they've got some pineapple and some grapes whatever, but like
the gravy probably certainly speaking of gravy.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Five Georgia, four Alabama, three Texas A and M So
oh wow, that was quick there you go. No no, uh,
no change there, three four five.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then there would be no change.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But really playing the Ohio State, Indiana and drama.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I'm uh that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's I don't have a problem with it by
any means, because you know you, I do still think
the Penn State team is talented enough that yep, number
two Indiana, so it's going number one Ohio State, So
there you go. So I do think that Penn State
team is much more talented than the record would indicate,
and they keep losing these one score games, so they're
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much more snake bit than terrible. But you know, it
also was not a real impressive performance necessarily either. So right,
we'll move some folks around on this chart, and then.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We will Ethan Grunkamera is looking better, but still looks
very young and inexperienced. In terms of the question about
flower or corn, it is flowered. If they throw corn,
that is an extra penalty. So they really really serious
about that stuff down there. No, I don't know. I
don't think it matters.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Pay rights to Michigan, which is the whole maze thing.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Michigan now, as we said, up to eighteen and has
a path for the Big Ten, but of course they
have to beat Ohio State to get there. Crazier things
have happened that would get the Big Ten fourth team.
I don't see. I guess we can talk about which
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Big Ten teams have a shot here while Tom puts
all of that together, because we can assume Oregon is
in at this point, they've got their home against Minnesota,
their home against USC. They're at Washington. I can no
longer assume Washington can be anybody based on their loss
against Wisconsin. But Washington at home is different than Washington
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on the road. I assume Oregon is gonna win two
of those three, probably three of those three. So they're in.
That takes us down to then Michigan, and we know
their schedule. It's it's bad until they play Ohio State.
They're at Northwestern, they're at Maryland. They should win both
of those, and then Ohio State comes to town, so
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they have to win that Ohio State. Without it, they're
not getting in at pre losses. Sorry, So Iowa, we're
getting experience that they are.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Western, which you know was hell of a sea, and
I do remember delicious like refrigerated crestables, uncrestables.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's right that they Yes, they had quite a bit
of stuff there, and they also had some cashiers that
were supposed to keep it keeping track of all this,
but the machines were down, so the media like we were,
we were looting that place basically in a professional manner.
The Iowa guys are at USC this week, then they
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have Michigan State at home, then they're at Nebraska, Like,
could you see Iowa winning out? Yes, I'm not expecting that,
but I guess I could see it. But they have
to went out to make it. So does Washington because
that loss to Wisconsin. I mean, well, actually they're done
now basically with that third loss. So I really it's
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it's got to be Michigan and then the USC. I
don't even think it brought them up, but they they're
home against Iowa, then they're at Oregon, and then they
have UCLA. So a win at Oregon would certainly maybe
maybe a loss against Iowa and a win at Oregon
could make them a three loss team that gets in.
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I wouldn't count on it. You know, they have the
lost to Notre Dame, so they have played somebody in
a non conference. But I think it's just a tough
road for a fourth Big Ten team, and it's a
much easier road for all of these SEC teams that
still just have one or two losses.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's God intended.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And then you know, the ACC good luck, We'll see
what you can do, because these teams are gonna start
picking each other off here, I think at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, and one thing that's interesting is right now Miami
is the highest ranked ACC team, so I have them
on the bracket here as number eleven. However, they're not
necessarily in line to be the to be the ACC
even in the ACC Championship game, let alone win the
ACC Championship game. I'm gonna punch this up here real quick,
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and just one second, I had to download a USF
app or USF logo because I this is not something
that has come up before on this show. I will
double check this live on here. But number one Ohio State,
number two to Indiana, number three, Texas A and M
number four, Alabama, number five, Georgia, number six, Texas Tech,
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number seven, Ole Miss number eight, Oregon, number nine, Notre Dame,
number ten Texas, and then number eleven team Oklahoma. The
first one out BYU, the second one out Utah, the
third one out Vanderbilt. The fourth went out because number
fifteen Miami is currently the top ACC team, and then
the top group of five team is the USF Bowls,
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who are ranked number twenty four. It's interesting if you
look at the AP pole right now, the James Madison
Dukes are number twenty five right now, and so it
is entirely possible. Are they are ahead right now of Duke,
So Duke's ahead of Duke and they so it is
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really a possibility. If it isn't you know, Miami or
Georgia Tech or Virginia or Louisville or Pittsburgh who ends
up winning the ACC. It is entirely possible that the
ACC does in fact get left out.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And right now you've got five ACC teams with one
loss in conference play, and Louisville has two, and they're
above Miami because of the head to head, and Miami's
there at three and two right now in conference play,
having to finish up at against NC State this week
Kevin's wolf Pack, then at Virginia Tech and at pitt
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And for the life of me, I expect pitt to
win that game. And I thought I thought that would
be the game that kept Miami out of the playoffs
at the start of the season. That was one of
my predictions, and my picks. Turns out all of the
other picks from Carson Beck has kept them out as well.
They've got a long way to go to get They
need a two thousand and seven where everybody comes back
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to them. They are LSU and everybody else is the nation.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And we have seeded in two thousand and seven. It
has happened. And this is a year when I don't
know that there are outside of maybe the top three
to five teams, I don't know that there's any great,
great teams. And I think you're seeing the mid level
of the sport, especially the Power Conference level, sort of
improve a little bit as nil and the transfer portal
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spreads the talent around a little bit more. You don't
have the just dominant dominant teams, and it's not quite
as stratified in these leagues, and so you could have
some really crazy you know, everyone in the ACC loses
another game or two in the regular season. Mike Frino
Superchat just is said, dang at Tom, I was just
about post that about Duke. Well, we uh, that's okay.
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We've been on many of the same shows, so I'm
not surprised we're thinking about these things similarly.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
At this point. Well, you know, and Mike brings up
a serious point that I want to address. We love
the super Chats, and we love everybody hanging out and
supporting us. You do not need to spend your money
to complain about Tom. You do that for free. You
can do that at any point. Look, we appreciate everybody,
but I'm not going to ask you to spend your
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money to do something that is every American's right and
something that every American should do. Like you tell people
go out and vote, you know, you know, do this
and be part of you know, being a citizen. Go
complain about Tom on a YouTube show like that is
that is your right. That is what we want to
see more of. That's that's what we're all here for.
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Even Tom is here for that. He just likes any
attention that he can get as power positive attention. That's
why he's always acting up, especially on the Bold Prediction Show.
It's it's a lot yes, Uncle Rico amen us. So
there you go. Look Tom or welcomes all criticism. That's right,
David Greenfield. He he will complain about it after the
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fact and then uh, you know sometimes I'll get a
text about it like, you know, dial it down. Can
you can you please not? And I'll be like, I can't.
It's this is a you're asking America to stop being America.
And I would never do that. Tom.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I want to jump in really quick at the house
when they were going to vote for Flounder, and it's like,
we need the dudes. No, if you want to sit
there and rail on Tom, or go ahead and keep
hitting the super jacks and sign up for buckey Huddle
dot com and then continue railing on Tom more.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I just want to Tom, don't treat on us.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I was just about to read you the playoff profiles
as posted on ESPN between Ohio State and Indiana and
Texas A and M. Uh they have, you know, obviously
all no losses FPI. Which is there. ESPN's strength YadA, YadA,
YadA is Ohio State first, Indiana second, Texas A and
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M seventh, and strength of record is Texas A and
M first, Indiana second, Ohio State third. Best win Indiana
over at number eight Organ on the road, Texas A
and M over number nine Notre Dame on the road,
Ohio State over number ten Texas at home. So there
you go. So that's uh, you know, I look at
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that and I kind of go, yeah, fine, I don't
see anything there that you know, unless unless you want to.
You know, this this will be the year that because
strength of record says that Texas A and M is
number one. This will be the year that strength of
record is the ultimate metric. And if you don't use
this as your ultimate measure of who's the best YadA
YadA YadA, then then you know the communist win that'll be.
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That'll be the battle cry this year. Super chet for
Mike Farrena. But complaining about Tom by a super chat.
Lets the world know about it, otherwise it might go unseen.
That's a fair point, fairpoint, It is a fair point.
Were playing also a fair point.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Tom Hoo, Tom Orr tm r R. Tom Orr host
morning show buck Eyes tomorrow morning. You may have heard
of it. I was gonna say, go assle, go harass
them there as well. No, don't do that. Just here
on the live shows. That's the only place you need
to harass them, and say Johiah with an aftime update
(28:31):
of the basketball. The Buckeyes are currently up on the
Mountaineers of Appalachian State. No Trov says.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We need at least one hundred dollars of super chats
for that one, like a new hundred dollars, not you know,
not accumulation of what we've gotten so far.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Troy V says, we need Tom to read playoff Committee
by laws to bring balance to the force. Sometimes it's
okay to let the dark side win. I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I did a show on the Morning in the Morning
Show feed about a week ago where I went through
the big ten tiebreakers and had all the bye laws there,
read them all. So if you if you're looking for
your fix, that's a that's a good place to find it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Tom, Can you read this one?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Doctor Vinnie Boombats, MD, sounds like a real doctor to me.
It's in the Constitution Article one, section four that shall
criticize Thomas or on the Year of Our Lord twenty
twenty five. Well, I mean it's and I know anything
about doctor Vinnie Boombats. He is an originalist, so he's
going to take that as literally as possible.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We're completely off topic, and we'll read this last one here,
Chip Roush says, and a hypothetical reading of bylaws, Tom
would win every time. Yes, he is, especially in his
sec voice. Then he would absolutely win every hypothetical Bye
law that there could possibly be. So as we look
at this proposed first round USF at Georgia, Notre Dame
(29:58):
at Oregon, at Texas Tech, and Texas at all Miss,
I'm seeing I think that'd be a fun watch. Miami
at Texas Tech might be first one to forty five wins.
Seeing some Texas all miss I can't believe we haven't
seen that one already this year. Georgia USF does nothing
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for me, but it might be fun to see what
their quarterback can do against the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I guess, yeah, I mean that's a that would be yeah.
I feel like the twelve the twelve this year is
you know, the five seed this year is a pretty
big advantage over the six because you're going up. I mean, well,
I guess, I guess we'll see. Maybe the eleven and
the twelve will both be nonpower teams. But you know,
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you're looking at going against you know, if you're the
seventh seed, you're playing the tenth best team in the country.
If you're the sixth or the fifth, you might be
playing the twenty third or the twenty fourth best team
in the country. So there is a real difference there.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh gosh, the super check of Mike Freedo how much
to read the bylaws of the Big Ten granted rights
to address the very not real possibility of Michigan and
USC leaving the Big Ten over the private equity deal.
They are pushing back on that, and again, not every
Big Ten team is super in favor of this. There
are some things that need to be ironed out. But USC,
(31:26):
basically my understanding, just wants more money and Michigan maybe
just wants some more attention. I don't know. But the uh,
it's not gonna it's not it's not not gonna happen.
I'll say that because Tom, I don't think this is
gonna go away anytime soon. So there may be some
some legal ease that you might be reading down the road. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, and the Big Ten grant of rights, I don't
think that that's public. They typically don't make those TV
contracts public, Like you can't even get them via FOYA,
so that would be a difficult thing. And as you know,
as far as the witty deal, I I can do
ninety minutes and we'll get the profane tag or I
can just go uh huh and we'll just move on.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So uh huh, Kevin, here's a question that I got
asked today. Amica. Thanks for tuning in, she says, awesome, guys,
thanks guys, go bucks. Kevin. I had somebody ask me
if Ohio State say Ohio State loses in the Big
Ten Championship to Indiana, right, do you? My thought is
then they would play. They still wouldn't play on New
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Year's Eve because Ohio State's still gonna play on New
Year's You're gonna put the the you can't put Indiana there,
but you're probably putting I don't know, maybe Texas A
and M New Year's Eve, because there's one game on
New Year's Eve? Are you putting Ohio State on New
Year's even? What's that the Cotton boll Tome, Well, yes,
that would.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Be the I think it's a Cotton Bowl this year. Yes,
I believe it's a Cotton Bowl this year. So what
if Ohio State loses in the Big Ten championship game,
then Indiana would go to the Rose Bowl. That's the
Big Ten champion goes to the Rose Bowl. Period, full stop.
You're playing at five o'clock Eastern on New Year's Day,
so that we know the SEC champions go into the
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Sugar Bowl, which is going to be played on New
Year's Night. That's going to be the uh, that's going
to be the evening game. I guess the Orange Bowl
will be the one o'clock game or the noon game
or whatever it is on New Year's Day, and that's
going to be It'll either be the Cotton Bowl or
the Orange Bowl, because the ACC has a contractual tie
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into the UH to the Orange Bowl, and that's not
going to be you know, the n ACC team is
not going to be in the top four, so it'll
be up to the committee where they want to put
those teams. I I would think neither of those is
a great time slot for different reasons. You're going to
put the Ohio State game in probably the better of
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those time slots, even ahead of an Alabama or X
A and M whoever that other team is. I don't know, Kevin,
do you have a strong opinion on that? Because the
noon New Year's Day slot is not very good. The
New Year's Eve slot is prime time, which you normally
would go, oh boy, you know what, hell fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
But that's all what those ratings were like, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, they dropped off quite a bit, and then you know,
there's a reason they're not playing two games on New
Year's Eve. So I don't know. I I would have
to go back and look at it, you know, and
the promise you look at last year and it you
know that that noon New Year's Day game was Texas
versus Arizona State, which you know it wasn't an exciting
Texas team, and Arizona State was the you know what
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was you know, no one was excited about to Arizona State.
So I don't know how much I would even read
into those ratings and what was it? What was the
New Year's Eve game last year? Was that Penn State
and Boise State.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I think it was right, that sounds right. I vaguely
remember watching that from the media room. But ABC ESPN
is thirsty to have an Ohio State game. And of course,
I mean the longer that Ohio State is in the playoffs,
more opportunities that are there. I think a little, just
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a very little part of it depends on what the
matchup is. I mean, if Ohio State gets you know,
you know, a small dog is its opponent, it's going
to be hard pressed to sit there and put it
ahead of everybody else. But ratings wise, Ohio State is
going to turn on television sets and ultimately the checks
that are being cut here. ABC needs ESPN needs to
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get its ad money to make it worth it. So
I don't see a way that Ohio State would end
up drawing that New Year's Eve And I mean you're
just really cutting yourself at the knees. Unless unless the
other three games are just like wholly amazing, and we
know that generally is not how it works out.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
We'll say Ohio State is the four and these are
the matchups. You know, it would be Georgia versus Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, I'm all about that. I'm I'm I'm all about that.
You put it, put it in, put it in a
premier spot. I mean, because the way you build that
too is you know, four or five, very little separation
in terms of the rankings everything else. I mean, you
don't need to be like, well, we gotta we gotta
protect the one I mean, well, the one seed would
be Indiana in that case, they're already locked into that
Rose Bulls Tom had mentioned. But there's no reason to
(36:24):
have to necessarily protect anything at that point. I mean,
even if you sit there and you have you know,
A and M sitting there at three getting either Texas
Tech for an old Big twelve matchup or the U.
I mean, that's you know, that's that's that's a New
Year's Eve special for me right there.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And of course this ranking is not accurate because two
will be the SEC champ rather than you know, a
Big ten team, you.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Know, right, yeah, this is this is as it stands
right now. Yeah yeah, just looking right now, I'm minding
to pull up the ratings for last year and the
Texas Arizona State Peach Bowl, which was the noon game
on New Year's Day that drew seventeen point three million viewers.
The Fiesta Bowl on the evening of New Year's Eve
(37:15):
drew about thirteen point eighty six millions, So you know,
I'm surprised at that. That's you know, more than four
million of a gap. So yeah, you're gonna put Ohio
State at the You're gonna put Ohio State at the
the noon that noon Peach Bowl window probably which I
guess would be the Cotton Bowl I guess would be,
(37:39):
would probably be that this year. Mike Creno says, OHU
George has done extremely well on New Year's Eve in
the past. That was two helmet teams playing in a
semi final in an absolute classic, high scoring, down to
the wire matchup. That's about as spectacular a setup as
you can have. And I don't remember the ratings being
you know, absolute box office ratings. They have just ESPN
(38:02):
has just very consistently been disappointed with the New Year's
Eve ratings. So I think you're gonna you're gonna see
whatever the least desirable of those matchups as long as
it's uh, you know, something that they can control. I
think they're gonna probably.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Nine eight nine point eight rating twenty two point four
five million viewers on the ESPN family.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Of networks on the for the Peach Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yes, for that Ohio State, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, well that's yeah, that's the that's what the that's
better than the National Championship did this lee year. But
that was you know, that was a semi final that
was on New Year's Eve that was too helmet teams.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh yeah, and yeah, I'm just looking at the rate
the ratings on the CFP website and wait, several twenty
millions in there, and the highest rated December thirty first
highest New Year's Eve was Georgia, Ohio State has said
(39:00):
twenty two point four. And then below just below that
was the TCU Michigan game that was twenty one point seven.
That was the that's the the sixth highest rated, and
it's the only other New Year's Eve You've got to
go down to Alabama Washington in twenty sixteen, which was
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nineteen point three, and the Clemson thirty one nothing over
Ohio State was nineteen point three. So like it just
gets keeps getting worse and worse. And the three of
the four lowest rated are New Year's Eve games George's
win over Michigan, Alabama's win over Cincinnati, and Clemson's win
(39:40):
over Oklahoma in twenty fifteen. So yeah, you get towards
the bottom of this list. It's a lot of December
thirty first.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and you know, to Mike's point here, Texas Arizona
State went to overtime. It was a great game. Fiesta
Bowl was a blowout, but you need an absolute classic
game to have it be anyway. You know, you need
a classic game, and you need it to be a
high scoring, entertaining classic game. Because you know that TCU
Michigan game I think ended up in the forties as well,
because that was the same that was the lead up
(40:11):
to that Ohio State Georgia Fiesta Bowl or the Ohio
State Georgia Peach Bowl. So you know they if you
have the perfect setup. Yeah, you can get you can
get numbers there, but the networks aren't going to probably
try and steer clear of that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I would I would say, and the highest rated semi
final of all time is Ohio State's forty two to
thirty five win over Alabama. That was twenty eight million,
two hundred and seventy one thousand. And there's a lot
of big scorers in the top ten of these semi
final rankings from the CFP site.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
YEP, that Mike Parino, Texas and Arizona State went to
overtime Fiesta Bowl was a blowout.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Sue wants to know why last year's national championship wasn't
incredible ratings wise because it was Ohio State and Notre Dame,
which are both helmet teams. They're both helmet teams from
the same region, which I think works against you a
little bit that it wasn't Ohio State Alabama, or Ohio
State Georgia or Notre Dame Georgia or something like that.
You also, I think once your team is not in it,
(41:16):
it feels like, well, college football season's over, you know,
January first, if your team loses. Okay, college football seasons
over January tenth. If your team loses, your brain is
used to thinking, okay, well college football season's over now,
and so it is, you know, January twentieth, I think
it was last year or twenty first. I think this
(41:37):
year nineteenth or twenty first. This year, that is real
late for college football season, and every other college football
team has moved on. You've got guys in the portal,
You've got guys who you know are off to the
NFL Draft. Everyone's in off season mode other than the
teams that are still playing there. We had a lot
of people last year comments like basically like oh, yeah,
I forgot this is still going on. And I think
(41:58):
that until you sort of train people that this is
this is when the college football season still runs to
you know, everyone who's watching this, Yeah, you're gonna be watching.
But TV numbers rely on the casuals. You know that
your next door neighbor who goes up and asks you
how you know, is do they still have that Jeremiah,
(42:19):
that nice Jeremiah kid on the team this year? Like
you know, the people who show up at the stadium
for the first game and are like, so, who's the
quarterback this year? Like those are the people who are
who are the ones who actually really drive the TV numbers,
Cause the real intense fans you're gonna be watching no
matter what it's it's can you get the casuals to watch?
(42:41):
This World Series? This year was huge and it was
partly because you had, you know, great narrative around it.
Plus you had the most famous baseball player in the
world and maybe one of the greatest players ever in
the World series playing a major starring role. So you
got the casual people tuning in, and the numbers really
huge numbers, even though one of the teams is from
Canada and Canadian members don't count, so if you.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Can counting with them and the Japanese numbers to say
it was, you know, far and away the most viewed
World series an xyz amount of time, because they're taking
the Canadian numbers and they're taking NHK or whatever Japanese
channel it's on, and they're cooking them all together. But
it's also to the point and we'll get to Micurino
super Chat in a second of we also had this
(43:24):
change of where they decided to start putting all these
games on ESPN. We know a lot of people are
not getting ESPN at the moment. That should be remedied
by the time we get to December, January or whatever.
It's a lot easier. It's hard to compare apples and
apples of you know, old apples, because when it was
just on ABC and you know, mom Pok Kettle in
(43:45):
Bucyrus were able to watch the game without having to
go through a lot of work to get to it.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
If I can't put a Canadian coin in a pop
machine and get a pop out, then their ratings should
not count in America. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's a soda machine.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Mike Frano says. Notre Dame also went like four possessions
of that a first dame after that for a first time.
After that first drive, it was a blowout. Game was
trending towards the blowout for a while, yeah, I mean
after that long Queen John Judkins run right after halftime
and then they punched that touchdown and it was what
thirty one seven and at that point it was just
basically Ohio State just needs to run out the clock,
and a lot of people again the casuals turned off
(44:22):
the TV and went to bed and woke up the
next morning. Oh it was closer than I thought like that,
but if you have to get up to go to
work the next morning. And on Tuesday, January twenty first,
a lot of people did. If you're not super invested
in the game, you turn this, you know, especially if
you're not you know, if you don't like Ohio State,
you don't want to see Ohio State win. Yeah, everyone
(44:43):
in Michigan turned that TV off when it was thirty
one to seven Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Now. I mean, also, keep in mind, the five lowest
rated National Championship games have been the last five.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, that's a broad TV trend, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
So that's that's another thing to keep in mind. And
like the the the highest rated one was the first one,
and that was Ohio State over Oregon by five point
one plus million. Over number two. The Ohio State was
three thirty three point nine million, and then two was
Alabama against Georgia and overtime twenty eight point eight million.
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So that's and then it just you know, gradually dips,
just like all all ratings basically as you said, So
like the last five being the lowest rated, I think
that's just normal. And then last year was a week
lasted a week longer than any other season before it,
but I still expected better ratings. But maybe maybe that's
(45:41):
the best rating you're going to get for the time being.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
We have a couple of super chats as we're starting
to accelerate here, so we'll go through these. Murpy Serafino
really wish the quarters were home field, would make the
conference championship games mean more and getting a top four
seed mean more. Plus that was awesome last year here.
I'm a bowl apologist. I love the Bowls system, but
I also know that I'm you know, get off my
(46:08):
lawn old man yells at cloud and everything else. Six seven.
I mean, I gotta I gotta get young and hip
and everything. But you know, I understand the point Murphy
is making there. I don't necessarily want to get too
far away from the bulls. The Bulls have just been
part of this forever and ever and ever again. But damn,
that Ohio s Tennessee scene was special, even though it
(46:29):
was like forty three degrees below zero.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Kevin's just a bread of big sued by the rose ball, right,
isn't that right? Chat?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Kevin was Kevin was up in the press box, pork
Kevin was cold at the Ohio State Tennessee. The hot
dogs weren't as hot as I wanted. In the press box,
I had.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
To walk to my car. That was terrible. I mean,
that was terrible from my close parking spot over in
one of the garages.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Don't docks yourself. I didn't say, yeah, I would love
more on campus thing, just because the on campus scene
is better than a bowl scene. Outside of the Rose Bowl,
which is the exception to every rule, every We've been
to every one of these six New Year sites over
the last five years, six years, so you know, we
(47:16):
can we can speak about this pretty authoritatively. Outside of
the Rose Bowl, they're all just kind of like they're fine,
and the folks who put them put the events onto
a great job, and they're wonderful and they're very dedicated
and we love them to death. But you know, if
if you have Ohio State going into into Athens, Georgia,
or you've got the Alabama Crimson Tide coming up to
(47:38):
Ann Arbor to play on New Year's Day, like yeah, man,
sign me up, Like sign me up three times over
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I am complete agreement.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Super check from mikahnna check out my show merch for
the Luma Nutty podcast. I get the profits thanks to
those who choose to support me. Means a lot. And
love you all. We love you, Mika. You've been a
supporter here on the channel for a long time. Congratulations
and good luck with your show. Uh we don't. We
don't support a lot of shows. We got our own.
We we got our own damn things to worry about.
(48:12):
But you know we we do love you, Miika. So
there you go. But any you know, any final thoughts.
I mean, it's not a lot of drama. You know,
we talked about the bacon on the breakfast buffet. We
you know, we talked about Uh, I don't that's about
all I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Those would be you know, all of the fresh baked
like those are like legit probably real baked goods that
they've got there as well. But overall, I just I
always like looking at these and knowing that it won't
be this. It'll be something like this. It'll be incredibly fun,
it'll be exciting, it'll give everybody something to look forward to,
something to talk about. And even if some of the
(48:54):
games are blowouts, we always have a good time with
with the college football playoff. I think it's undefeated.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Greg says super Chats are losing steam to him. THEMN
the Torpedoes full Tom ahead strong agree. I do want
to hit real quickly. I paused the TV like twenty
minutes ago when they put the ACC teams in graphic up,
and I think there's a lot of false precision in
these numbers. But the chance to make the ACC Title Game,
which is basically the ticket to admission for someone like
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Miami into the playoff, chance to make ACC Title Game
six percent, and then they would need to win it.
So the chance to win is four percent. Georgia Tech
fifty five percent to make the ACC Title and thirty
five percent to win. Virginia still thirty six percent to
make and then you know Pitt and Louisville just under
ten percent, and then you've got you know, you have Dougan,
(49:45):
You've got some other teams in there as well. But yeah,
that's going to be a really, really fun race to
watch for the right to maybe get in and then
lose by a million to everyone else. Jeff wants to
know how we have all the chats covering Tom's head.
You just wait longer, just wait, there you go, now
they're covering Kevin's head.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I'm gonna take that off.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So all right, we do. Thanks, thank you guys all
for all of the chats, super chats, regular chats, and
of course the anti Tom chats. Always again, you're exercising,
you're right as a human being, and I'm not going
to impede that ever. One last super chat for Mike Farino.
I believe the only ACC team Miami can have a
(50:32):
tie breaker over is pit. They need everyone else to
have more losses and well they've got a beat Pitt
to get that tiebreaker. But that could happen and we
will see Rob h with the super chat. I don't
get to catch you guys live very often in the
evenings these days, working seven tens for second shift for
the foreseeable future. Tonight is no exception. Just wanted to
(50:53):
say thanks for your hard work, guys, Rob. Thank you
for your hard work. Those are some legit hours and
we do appreciate you guys stopping by. Rob especially, and
thanks for that super chat, and thank you all for
stopping by. We will let you all go and do
your own things now and again thumbs up. If you haven't,
we would appreciate that and of course check us out
(51:13):
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again and we'll talk to you all later
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or and because of
this Tuesday, also with Kevin. Nude, Tom, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No? No, no, no, no, I want to hear from Kevin.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
First.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's hear from Kevin. You hear from me all the time.
Let's hear from Kevin. Kevin, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Wow? Copyright infringement is what I'm hearing right now.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But he hasn't copyrighted it. It's just gimmicking.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I know he's lazy af but you know, but still,
I mean, he's he's thought about it. So that's that's
that's good enough. Possessions like nine tenths of the law
or something like that, or I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Intention intention is nine tenths of the law.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But no, good to be here. Looking forward to seeing
the rankings. I wonder how many people will be here
because they don't have access to ESPN. We we all
do in one way, shape or form. But of course
we all are watching on different providers. So you'll see
Tom will sit there and say, oh, so and so's
(01:11):
twenty third. I'll be like they are, because I'll have
to wait for it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm still at twenty five slow down.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Kevin perpetually surprised, and Tony about thirty seconds behind. That
sounds about very on brand for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So welcome everybody as we continue to allow more and
more people in. Kevin of course at the velvet ropes
letting people in no matter who, including speaking of the devil,
Ryan Dawes pops up. Hey, just kidding, Ryan, we get along.
Just find you and I. It's everybody else that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We don't like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey, can you guys pause so I can finish watching
the Purdue rewatch. You don't need to keep watching that game.
You can now watch like some UCLA games and see
what's coming for Ohio State because you've seen enough Purdue,
and Tom and I have seen enough Purdue, that's for sure.
I don't. I don't think we're gonna be watching any
(02:01):
more Purdue.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think so, I mean we might we might watch
the Indiana Old Oaken Bucket game if Ohio State and
Indiana are going to play. That feels like something we
might end up having to do.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But yeah, I did see Nicholas Marconi just said, is
everyone prepared for the fund out. Let's see when we
get eight and four a CEC champion Duke. If we
get that, there may be no ACC team in the
conference in the College Football playoff. Keep in mind, it's
the four highest ranked conference champs in there, and if
the the group of five is in that, then you know, boom,
(02:36):
there's your champs. And so that would be three Big
ten teams, six or seven SEC teams, and you know
ESPN will get what they want it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
One, yeah, one American team and probably James Madison. There's
a very narrow pathway for that to happen. And the
American champ has to win, you know, probably finish eleven
and one or ten and two at the worst, and
James Madison probably needs to win out and it would
have to probably be Duke winning out. But the reason
you know, Duke would finish eight and four or I
(03:08):
guess nine and four after that. But they lost all
three of their non conference games, and not against like
amazing competition. They lost to They lost to Illinois, They
lost to Yukon, which you know, unless this is basketball,
those are not those are not great losses. And they
lost to one other, but yeah, that is that is
like a real possibility, And if you just want to
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just be rooting for just wild, insane crap, that is
that's the thing to root for. That is also the
thing to root for. If you want the Big Tens
proposal to have a set number of auto bids per league,
you want to watch how fast the ACC gets on board.
If that happens, it will not take long.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'm not here for this ACC, Slanders. I'm wearing in
C State clothing. My niece went to in C State
for one year to follow a boy. They broke up.
She's no longer there. I still have a sweatshirt, though,
is it his sweatshirt?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Has started their broadcast and is setting this up with
Texas A and M and Indiana and then then also
just throw a higher state up at the end. So
I think they're setting up the same thing that we
potentially set up in the In the title of the show,
will Texas A and M jump Ohigo State or Indiana?
You know, certainly the possibility of them jumping Indiana, as
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that's a real possibility after Indiana did not look amazing
on the road against Penn State. Yes, I watched the
same game you did, Tony. You haven't recorded the show
about it yet, but I watched the same game you did.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You said, don't what about that last drive Tom where
Fernanda Mendoza shredded the Penn State defense a very good defense.
I will remind you that unfortunately their offense, the Penn
State offense, has not been able to win any games.
But that defense is stout, that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
If you can make Gus Johnson's voice do with the
things that they made Gus Johnson's voice do, boy, you
must be some some kind of something. I just I'm
watching this this video intro and it's just you know, yes,
oh look there's Ohio State, Yes, there's uh, you know whoever.
But it's just like, oh, there's pitt What, there's there's Indiana,
(05:22):
What there's uh, you know they they had a bunch
of Texas Tech, Like these are these are schools that
thirty six months ago you'd have said, here's the shows
that there's Vanderbilt, Like what, here's here's the show the
teams that they're putting in the intro to the college
Football playoff rankings reveal in Week two of twenty twenty five,
Uh yeah, things things have gotten a little weird, which
(05:45):
you know what, I'm here for it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And Vanderbilt got away with one against Auburn this weekend.
Listening to that one on the way back from Purdue,
only one team in the top ten loses, and that
is BYU losing to Texas Tech. That's their first loss,
So it's it should be very a very similar kind
of Top ten. However, as we know, brand new clean
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sheet of paper every week, so it could be completely different.
It won't be completely different, but they're gonna take a
look at all of the brand new information that they've
gotten and then go from there and we will have
to decide. You guys have thrown out this clickbait garbage
about Texas A and M versus Indiana. Just enrages me. No,
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Texas A and M goes and wins at Missouri thirty
eight seventeen. Indiana goes and wins at Penn State twenty
seven to twenty four. Another quality win for Texas A
and M. I just can't get past the fact that
she gave up forty some points to Arkansas. That's going
to stick with me forever when we talk about Texas
A and M.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that's one thing, and I was just pulling up
their schedule because they have had you know, they've they've
got a bunch of helmets that they've beaten. They're nine
and zero and that's that's great. And they had a
forty one to forty win over Notre Dame and that's
a that's a very good win. But their wins so
far this year in SEC play, they beat Auburn, which
fired their coach. They beat Mississippi State, which has not
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I don't believe won a game in the SEC. They
beat Florida, which fired their coach. They beat Arkansas, which
fired their coach. They beat LSU, which fired their coach,
and they beat Missouri without their quarterback. And the remaining
schedule is South Carolina, who you know is certainly firing
their coach, curious or maybe hoping that maybe that he
will hope that Mama Mama from Blacksburg calls, and then
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Samford and then at Texas and that's it. So, you know,
you look at their schedule and you see the SEC
people complaining, well, Ohio State hasn't played anyone. Well, guess what.
Ohio State already has a win over the team that
is possibly going to end the year as the best
win on Texas A and M schedule, and Ohio State
already has a win over them, and that would be Texas.
(07:59):
So you know, maybe maybe the Notre Dame game ends
up being, you know, being a better win. But you know,
those two teams were very close on the rankings last week,
and you know, so it'll it'll end up being it'll
end up being similar.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, LSU, they get the win over the you know,
LSU's now five and four, Missouri is now six and three,
and I will say Mississippi State does have one win
in conference, so let's give them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I apologize since Cincinnati your new number twenty five in
the nation, number twenty four the USF Bowls, Alex Golish,
we have a non power team in the top twenty five.
Get excited, everyone, It's about time.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean, somebody's gonna be in there. Might as well
throw one in there now.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And now we're did an extended cut on the South
Florida Bowls.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So a Flora Bulls in case you haven't seen them,
because you probably haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
We saw them once. Maybe a get in what the
Miami game or the you know, the Florida game, where
they beat Florid probably when everybody saw them the one
time we saw them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The didn't they play the Friday night that we were
in Illinois. I think maybe were.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They did was that a Memphis Maybe I feels like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm watching that was that might have been North Texas.
I think Tennessee is number twenty three, up two spots.
Pit number twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Two also up two spots.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And now we're getting a pit breakdown. Man, the USF breakdown,
a pit breakdown. This is some real two thousand and sevens. Wow,
the Big East has a lot of contenders vibes here.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Let's see how the game.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
In a two thousand and seven ish season. Not quite
to the level of two thousand and seven, but close enough.
It's not blasphemy to say that number twenty one the
Iowa Hawkeyes down one spot.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Michigan has moved up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Michigan's best win a bye week, strengthening their resume.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, looking at Pitt Mason Heinscheld, Tom, you know that
that's your guy. You saw him in person. They've got
an offense there that could be an issue for somebody
in the first round if they can get there.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, Kevin, close your ears it was. I watched them
absolutely defenestrate Louisville at at Akroscher Stadium and a Mason Heinscheld,
I mean, throws a ball all over. My big takeaway
Number twenty Louisville, by the way, my big takeaway from
that was he throws. He's great, he's exciting, and then
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you watch him throw and it's like, why are these
balls all like a little behind someone or you know,
a little above or oh well it was a little
low and the receiver had to kind of go down
and get it. Otherwise you could have kept right like,
oh not everyone throws quite like Julian Sayan does. Number
nineteen Virginia. They are down five spots after a loss.
Number Michigan.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And Virginia is that they're going to be the highest
rated ACC team still probably Miami.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Louisville's down, Miami will still.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Georgia Tech is still okay, they're still there.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, Georgia Tech was seventeen last week. We will
see if they move up or.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In Miami was eighteen. Talking about these Virginia Cavaliers.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Number seventeen USC.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Those big ten power up two spots Michigan and USC.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't think usc really has a road too. I
mean there's a road, but it's very rocky and tough
for them to manage. I think the best road maybe Michigan,
but it's just the last roadblock for that is pretty immense.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Tech sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And we will have a graphic with the full rank
as well as the projected bracket as soon as they're
done announcing them. Right now, I'm looking on number fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
They so Miami jumps Georgia Tech. Well, well, Miami got
the win over Syracuse. Georgia Tech was off last week,
so that was enough to get the bump there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And Syracuse is there are two Syracuses this year, one
before their quarterback got hurt and one after their quarterback
got hurt. Steve Aangelly, the Notre Dame transfer, got them
off to a pretty decent start, and then as soon
as he got hurt, they had nothing behind him and
they have been, you know, basically hopeless and helpless since then.
So you know, that might be a little bit of
(12:49):
a watch this space. That may tell you what the
committee wants to do with Miami if they viewed that
as a jump them worthy win. Number fourteen is Vanderbilt
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, they also need to get Miami away from Louisville
so that they don't have to compare them head to head.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And we're also watching right now speaking of that, how
far apart are Miami and Notre Dame. Thirteen is Utah.
They have not moved from last week, but your Miami
is at fifteen. Notre Dame presumably going to be five
ish spots ahead still, so that will keep them far
enough away that you avoid the head to head stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
They group, they put them all in basically groups of three,
and they adjust them once they compare them. So basically
you've got Miami and Louisville are like six spots away,
five six spots away, so they're never going to be
in that same group of three, so they stay safe
and they can avoid the head to head just like
they can with Miami and Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm wondering if we're going to see BYU next, because
BYU got absolutely thumped by Texas Tech. Yep, there they are,
number twelve, but they will stay one spot ahead of
Utah because of the head to head. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, and that's kind of the the floor or the
UTAH is being capped basically by BYU right now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, Utah didn't move, and BYU fell to one spot
ahead of Utah.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Just so I don't have to tep this out quickly.
To Scott, I think I see Indiana staying ahead of Texas,
A and M. But I it's a clean sheet. Heard that.
I heard that, so you know we'll see. I listened
to satellite radio. Somebody from textags on there state and
all the reasons why it could go the other way.
I'm not I'm nots.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Were some of those reasons. Uh, they played nobody.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now the Agg's been playing everybody. Everybody that's racist.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Uh. I don't think Aggie is a race as much
as they wish it was. Number eleven is Oklahoma, by
the way, so.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
They're up one spot as well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Number ten Texas also up one spot. This feels for
a thing that was a clean sheet. This does feel
a whole lot like one top ten team lost and
everybody take one step forward. Not so fast Utah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So this then should be notre dame with their win
over Navy.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, this is. They have not announced anything above number
ten Texas, but if everyone does just take one step up,
it would be number nine Notre Dame next and they
are poised.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
To tell us per chance.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, no, no, please take your time. ESPN doing a power
pause right now speaking.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
About arch manning Texas. I don't think they Their road
is also quite difficult because they're at Georgia this week
and then they also finish with Texas A and M.
So I don't see them getting in unless they can
do it with three losses.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, number nine Notre Dame, number eight Oregon again both
just moving on one spot the Texas Texas at nine
and three. You know, they either beat Georgia or they
beat Texas A and M. That feels like we're about
to have We're about to have a conversation, a Capital
C conversation about about Texas and and what you know,
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who's going to get left out for uh for a
Texas team that's nine and three, because if anyone is
going to get in at nine and three, that's the
kind of brand. And well, they just beat fill in
the blank that right now. Number Number seven is ole
miss they fall one spot. Texas Tech jumps them with
the win over BYU. So Texas Tech is six.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now that is the least they could do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They justified their hotel points in Grapevine, Texas by moving
Moving Texas A and a Texas Tech up one spot
over whole, Miss.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm sure there's a great breakfast buffet there.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
God, can you imagine, I mean, I can't imagine the
probably just different cuts of bacon as well. It's not
just your thick cut. Probably got your you know, your
your apple pie seasoned bacon, and there you get different
kinds of things, and then of course.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Bacon, of course your savory bacon.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But just imagine the biscuits and gravy, the gravy, the
kind of gravy that they would have there. And yet Tom,
they've got some pineapple and some grapes whatever, but like
the gravy probably certainly speaking of gravy.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Five Georgia, four Alabama, three Texas A and M So
oh wow, that was quick there you go. No no, uh,
no change there, three four five.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then there would be no change.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But really playing the Ohio State, Indiana and drama.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I'm uh that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's I don't have a problem with it by
any means, because you know you, I do still think
the Penn State team is talented enough that yep, number
two Indiana, so it's going number one Ohio State, So
there you go. So I do think that Penn State
team is much more talented than the record would indicate,
and they keep losing these one score games, so they're
(18:10):
much more snake bit than terrible. But you know, it
also was not a real impressive performance necessarily either. So right,
we'll move some folks around on this chart, and then.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We will Ethan Grunkamera is looking better, but still looks
very young and inexperienced. In terms of the question about
flower or corn, it is flowered. If they throw corn,
that is an extra penalty. So they really really serious
about that stuff down there. No, I don't know. I
don't think it matters.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Pay rights to Michigan, which is the whole maze thing.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Michigan now, as we said, up to eighteen and has
a path for the Big Ten, but of course they
have to beat Ohio State to get there. Crazier things
have happened that would get the Big Ten fourth team.
I don't see. I guess we can talk about which
(19:05):
Big Ten teams have a shot here while Tom puts
all of that together, because we can assume Oregon is
in at this point, they've got their home against Minnesota,
their home against USC. They're at Washington. I can no
longer assume Washington can be anybody based on their loss
against Wisconsin. But Washington at home is different than Washington
(19:26):
on the road. I assume Oregon is gonna win two
of those three, probably three of those three. So they're in.
That takes us down to then Michigan, and we know
their schedule. It's it's bad until they play Ohio State.
They're at Northwestern, they're at Maryland. They should win both
of those, and then Ohio State comes to town, so
(19:47):
they have to win that Ohio State. Without it, they're
not getting in at pre losses. Sorry, So Iowa, we're
getting experience that they are.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Western, which you know was hell of a sea, and
I do remember delicious like refrigerated crestables, uncrestables.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's right that they Yes, they had quite a bit
of stuff there, and they also had some cashiers that
were supposed to keep it keeping track of all this,
but the machines were down, so the media like we were,
we were looting that place basically in a professional manner.
The Iowa guys are at USC this week, then they
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have Michigan State at home, then they're at Nebraska, Like,
could you see Iowa winning out? Yes, I'm not expecting that,
but I guess I could see it. But they have
to went out to make it. So does Washington because
that loss to Wisconsin. I mean, well, actually they're done
now basically with that third loss. So I really it's
(20:51):
it's got to be Michigan and then the USC. I
don't even think it brought them up, but they they're
home against Iowa, then they're at Oregon, and then they
have UCLA. So a win at Oregon would certainly maybe
maybe a loss against Iowa and a win at Oregon
could make them a three loss team that gets in.
(21:13):
I wouldn't count on it. You know, they have the
lost to Notre Dame, so they have played somebody in
a non conference. But I think it's just a tough
road for a fourth Big Ten team, and it's a
much easier road for all of these SEC teams that
still just have one or two losses.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's God intended.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And then you know, the ACC good luck, We'll see
what you can do, because these teams are gonna start
picking each other off here, I think at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, and one thing that's interesting is right now Miami
is the highest ranked ACC team, so I have them
on the bracket here as number eleven. However, they're not
necessarily in line to be the to be the ACC
even in the ACC Championship game, let alone win the
ACC Championship game. I'm gonna punch this up here real quick,
(22:08):
and just one second, I had to download a USF
app or USF logo because I this is not something
that has come up before on this show. I will
double check this live on here. But number one Ohio State,
number two to Indiana, number three, Texas A and M
number four, Alabama, number five, Georgia, number six, Texas Tech,
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number seven, Ole Miss number eight, Oregon, number nine, Notre Dame,
number ten Texas, and then number eleven team Oklahoma. The
first one out BYU, the second one out Utah, the
third one out Vanderbilt. The fourth went out because number
fifteen Miami is currently the top ACC team, and then
the top group of five team is the USF Bowls,
(22:55):
who are ranked number twenty four. It's interesting if you
look at the AP pole right now, the James Madison
Dukes are number twenty five right now, and so it
is entirely possible. Are they are ahead right now of Duke,
So Duke's ahead of Duke and they so it is
(23:19):
really a possibility. If it isn't you know, Miami or
Georgia Tech or Virginia or Louisville or Pittsburgh who ends
up winning the ACC. It is entirely possible that the
ACC does in fact get left out.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And right now you've got five ACC teams with one
loss in conference play, and Louisville has two, and they're
above Miami because of the head to head, and Miami's
there at three and two right now in conference play,
having to finish up at against NC State this week
Kevin's wolf Pack, then at Virginia Tech and at pitt
(23:57):
And for the life of me, I expect pitt to
win that game. And I thought I thought that would
be the game that kept Miami out of the playoffs
at the start of the season. That was one of
my predictions, and my picks. Turns out all of the
other picks from Carson Beck has kept them out as well.
They've got a long way to go to get They
need a two thousand and seven where everybody comes back
(24:19):
to them. They are LSU and everybody else is the nation.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And we have seeded in two thousand and seven. It
has happened. And this is a year when I don't
know that there are outside of maybe the top three
to five teams, I don't know that there's any great,
great teams. And I think you're seeing the mid level
of the sport, especially the Power Conference level, sort of
improve a little bit as nil and the transfer portal
(24:47):
spreads the talent around a little bit more. You don't
have the just dominant dominant teams, and it's not quite
as stratified in these leagues, and so you could have
some really crazy you know, everyone in the ACC loses
another game or two in the regular season. Mike Frino
Superchat just is said, dang at Tom, I was just
about post that about Duke. Well, we uh, that's okay.
(25:08):
We've been on many of the same shows, so I'm
not surprised we're thinking about these things similarly.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
At this point. Well, you know, and Mike brings up
a serious point that I want to address. We love
the super Chats, and we love everybody hanging out and
supporting us. You do not need to spend your money
to complain about Tom. You do that for free. You
can do that at any point. Look, we appreciate everybody,
but I'm not going to ask you to spend your
(25:33):
money to do something that is every American's right and
something that every American should do. Like you tell people
go out and vote, you know, you know, do this
and be part of you know, being a citizen. Go
complain about Tom on a YouTube show like that is
that is your right. That is what we want to
see more of. That's that's what we're all here for.
(25:55):
Even Tom is here for that. He just likes any
attention that he can get as power positive attention. That's
why he's always acting up, especially on the Bold Prediction Show.
It's it's a lot yes, Uncle Rico amen us. So
there you go. Look Tom or welcomes all criticism. That's right,
David Greenfield. He he will complain about it after the
(26:16):
fact and then uh, you know sometimes I'll get a
text about it like, you know, dial it down. Can
you can you please not? And I'll be like, I can't.
It's this is a you're asking America to stop being America.
And I would never do that. Tom.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I want to jump in really quick at the house
when they were going to vote for Flounder, and it's like,
we need the dudes. No, if you want to sit
there and rail on Tom, or go ahead and keep
hitting the super jacks and sign up for buckey Huddle
dot com and then continue railing on Tom more.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I just want to Tom, don't treat on us.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I was just about to read you the playoff profiles
as posted on ESPN between Ohio State and Indiana and
Texas A and M. Uh they have, you know, obviously
all no losses FPI. Which is there. ESPN's strength YadA, YadA,
YadA is Ohio State first, Indiana second, Texas A and
(27:12):
M seventh, and strength of record is Texas A and
M first, Indiana second, Ohio State third. Best win Indiana
over at number eight Organ on the road, Texas A
and M over number nine Notre Dame on the road,
Ohio State over number ten Texas at home. So there
you go. So that's uh, you know, I look at
(27:32):
that and I kind of go, yeah, fine, I don't
see anything there that you know, unless unless you want to.
You know, this this will be the year that because
strength of record says that Texas A and M is
number one. This will be the year that strength of
record is the ultimate metric. And if you don't use
this as your ultimate measure of who's the best YadA
YadA YadA, then then you know the communist win that'll be.
(27:56):
That'll be the battle cry this year. Super chet for
Mike Farrena. But complaining about Tom by a super chat.
Lets the world know about it, otherwise it might go unseen.
That's a fair point, fairpoint, It is a fair point.
Were playing also a fair point.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Tom Hoo, Tom Orr tm r R. Tom Orr host
morning show buck Eyes tomorrow morning. You may have heard
of it. I was gonna say, go assle, go harass
them there as well. No, don't do that. Just here
on the live shows. That's the only place you need
to harass them, and say Johiah with an aftime update
(28:31):
of the basketball. The Buckeyes are currently up on the
Mountaineers of Appalachian State. No Trov says.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We need at least one hundred dollars of super chats
for that one, like a new hundred dollars, not you know,
not accumulation of what we've gotten so far.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Troy V says, we need Tom to read playoff Committee
by laws to bring balance to the force. Sometimes it's
okay to let the dark side win. I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I did a show on the Morning in the Morning
Show feed about a week ago where I went through
the big ten tiebreakers and had all the bye laws there,
read them all. So if you if you're looking for
your fix, that's a that's a good place to find it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Tom, Can you read this one?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Doctor Vinnie Boombats, MD, sounds like a real doctor to me.
It's in the Constitution Article one, section four that shall
criticize Thomas or on the Year of Our Lord twenty
twenty five. Well, I mean it's and I know anything
about doctor Vinnie Boombats. He is an originalist, so he's
going to take that as literally as possible.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We're completely off topic, and we'll read this last one here,
Chip Roush says, and a hypothetical reading of bylaws, Tom
would win every time. Yes, he is, especially in his
sec voice. Then he would absolutely win every hypothetical Bye
law that there could possibly be. So as we look
at this proposed first round USF at Georgia, Notre Dame
(29:58):
at Oregon, at Texas Tech, and Texas at all Miss,
I'm seeing I think that'd be a fun watch. Miami
at Texas Tech might be first one to forty five wins.
Seeing some Texas all miss I can't believe we haven't
seen that one already this year. Georgia USF does nothing
(30:22):
for me, but it might be fun to see what
their quarterback can do against the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I guess, yeah, I mean that's a that would be yeah.
I feel like the twelve the twelve this year is
you know, the five seed this year is a pretty
big advantage over the six because you're going up. I mean, well,
I guess, I guess we'll see. Maybe the eleven and
the twelve will both be nonpower teams. But you know,
(30:48):
you're looking at going against you know, if you're the
seventh seed, you're playing the tenth best team in the country.
If you're the sixth or the fifth, you might be
playing the twenty third or the twenty fourth best team
in the country. So there is a real difference there.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh gosh, the super check of Mike Freedo how much
to read the bylaws of the Big Ten granted rights
to address the very not real possibility of Michigan and
USC leaving the Big Ten over the private equity deal.
They are pushing back on that, and again, not every
Big Ten team is super in favor of this. There
are some things that need to be ironed out. But USC,
(31:26):
basically my understanding, just wants more money and Michigan maybe
just wants some more attention. I don't know. But the uh,
it's not gonna it's not it's not not gonna happen.
I'll say that because Tom, I don't think this is
gonna go away anytime soon. So there may be some
some legal ease that you might be reading down the road. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, and the Big Ten grant of rights, I don't
think that that's public. They typically don't make those TV
contracts public, Like you can't even get them via FOYA,
so that would be a difficult thing. And as you know,
as far as the witty deal, I I can do
ninety minutes and we'll get the profane tag or I
can just go uh huh and we'll just move on.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So uh huh, Kevin, here's a question that I got
asked today. Amica. Thanks for tuning in, she says, awesome, guys,
thanks guys, go bucks. Kevin. I had somebody ask me
if Ohio State say Ohio State loses in the Big
Ten Championship to Indiana, right, do you? My thought is
then they would play. They still wouldn't play on New
(32:30):
Year's Eve because Ohio State's still gonna play on New
Year's You're gonna put the the you can't put Indiana there,
but you're probably putting I don't know, maybe Texas A
and M New Year's Eve, because there's one game on
New Year's Eve? Are you putting Ohio State on New
Year's even? What's that the Cotton boll Tome, Well, yes,
that would.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Be the I think it's a Cotton Bowl this year. Yes,
I believe it's a Cotton Bowl this year. So what
if Ohio State loses in the Big Ten championship game,
then Indiana would go to the Rose Bowl. That's the
Big Ten champion goes to the Rose Bowl. Period, full stop.
You're playing at five o'clock Eastern on New Year's Day,
so that we know the SEC champions go into the
(33:11):
Sugar Bowl, which is going to be played on New
Year's Night. That's going to be the uh, that's going
to be the evening game. I guess the Orange Bowl
will be the one o'clock game or the noon game
or whatever it is on New Year's Day, and that's
going to be It'll either be the Cotton Bowl or
the Orange Bowl, because the ACC has a contractual tie
(33:32):
into the UH to the Orange Bowl, and that's not
going to be you know, the n ACC team is
not going to be in the top four, so it'll
be up to the committee where they want to put
those teams. I I would think neither of those is
a great time slot for different reasons. You're going to
put the Ohio State game in probably the better of
(33:56):
those time slots, even ahead of an Alabama or X
A and M whoever that other team is. I don't know, Kevin,
do you have a strong opinion on that? Because the
noon New Year's Day slot is not very good. The
New Year's Eve slot is prime time, which you normally
would go, oh boy, you know what, hell fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
But that's all what those ratings were like, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, they dropped off quite a bit, and then you know,
there's a reason they're not playing two games on New
Year's Eve. So I don't know. I I would have
to go back and look at it, you know, and
the promise you look at last year and it you
know that that noon New Year's Day game was Texas
versus Arizona State, which you know it wasn't an exciting
Texas team, and Arizona State was the you know what
(34:41):
was you know, no one was excited about to Arizona State.
So I don't know how much I would even read
into those ratings and what was it? What was the
New Year's Eve game last year? Was that Penn State
and Boise State.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I think it was right, that sounds right. I vaguely
remember watching that from the media room. But ABC ESPN
is thirsty to have an Ohio State game. And of course,
I mean the longer that Ohio State is in the playoffs,
more opportunities that are there. I think a little, just
(35:15):
a very little part of it depends on what the
matchup is. I mean, if Ohio State gets you know,
you know, a small dog is its opponent, it's going
to be hard pressed to sit there and put it
ahead of everybody else. But ratings wise, Ohio State is
going to turn on television sets and ultimately the checks
that are being cut here. ABC needs ESPN needs to
(35:38):
get its ad money to make it worth it. So
I don't see a way that Ohio State would end
up drawing that New Year's Eve And I mean you're
just really cutting yourself at the knees. Unless unless the
other three games are just like wholly amazing, and we
know that generally is not how it works out.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
We'll say Ohio State is the four and these are
the matchups. You know, it would be Georgia versus Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, I'm all about that. I'm I'm I'm all about that.
You put it, put it in, put it in a
premier spot. I mean, because the way you build that
too is you know, four or five, very little separation
in terms of the rankings everything else. I mean, you
don't need to be like, well, we gotta we gotta
protect the one I mean, well, the one seed would
be Indiana in that case, they're already locked into that
Rose Bulls Tom had mentioned. But there's no reason to
(36:24):
have to necessarily protect anything at that point. I mean,
even if you sit there and you have you know,
A and M sitting there at three getting either Texas
Tech for an old Big twelve matchup or the U.
I mean, that's you know, that's that's that's a New
Year's Eve special for me right there.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And of course this ranking is not accurate because two
will be the SEC champ rather than you know, a
Big ten team, you.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Know, right, yeah, this is this is as it stands
right now. Yeah yeah, just looking right now, I'm minding
to pull up the ratings for last year and the
Texas Arizona State Peach Bowl, which was the noon game
on New Year's Day that drew seventeen point three million viewers.
The Fiesta Bowl on the evening of New Year's Eve
(37:15):
drew about thirteen point eighty six millions, So you know,
I'm surprised at that. That's you know, more than four
million of a gap. So yeah, you're gonna put Ohio
State at the You're gonna put Ohio State at the
the noon that noon Peach Bowl window probably which I
guess would be the Cotton Bowl I guess would be,
(37:39):
would probably be that this year. Mike Creno says, OHU
George has done extremely well on New Year's Eve in
the past. That was two helmet teams playing in a
semi final in an absolute classic, high scoring, down to
the wire matchup. That's about as spectacular a setup as
you can have. And I don't remember the ratings being
you know, absolute box office ratings. They have just ESPN
(38:02):
has just very consistently been disappointed with the New Year's
Eve ratings. So I think you're gonna you're gonna see
whatever the least desirable of those matchups as long as
it's uh, you know, something that they can control. I
think they're gonna probably.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Nine eight nine point eight rating twenty two point four
five million viewers on the ESPN family.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Of networks on the for the Peach Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yes, for that Ohio State, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, well that's yeah, that's the that's what the that's
better than the National Championship did this lee year. But
that was you know, that was a semi final that
was on New Year's Eve that was too helmet teams.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh yeah, and yeah, I'm just looking at the rate
the ratings on the CFP website and wait, several twenty
millions in there, and the highest rated December thirty first
highest New Year's Eve was Georgia, Ohio State has said
(39:00):
twenty two point four. And then below just below that
was the TCU Michigan game that was twenty one point seven.
That was the that's the the sixth highest rated, and
it's the only other New Year's Eve You've got to
go down to Alabama Washington in twenty sixteen, which was
(39:20):
nineteen point three, and the Clemson thirty one nothing over
Ohio State was nineteen point three. So like it just
gets keeps getting worse and worse. And the three of
the four lowest rated are New Year's Eve games George's
win over Michigan, Alabama's win over Cincinnati, and Clemson's win
(39:40):
over Oklahoma in twenty fifteen. So yeah, you get towards
the bottom of this list. It's a lot of December
thirty first.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and you know, to Mike's point here, Texas Arizona
State went to overtime. It was a great game. Fiesta
Bowl was a blowout, but you need an absolute classic
game to have it be anyway. You know, you need
a classic game, and you need it to be a
high scoring, entertaining classic game. Because you know that TCU
Michigan game I think ended up in the forties as well,
because that was the same that was the lead up
(40:11):
to that Ohio State Georgia Fiesta Bowl or the Ohio
State Georgia Peach Bowl. So you know they if you
have the perfect setup. Yeah, you can get you can
get numbers there, but the networks aren't going to probably
try and steer clear of that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I would I would say, and the highest rated semi
final of all time is Ohio State's forty two to
thirty five win over Alabama. That was twenty eight million,
two hundred and seventy one thousand. And there's a lot
of big scorers in the top ten of these semi
final rankings from the CFP site.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
YEP, that Mike Parino, Texas and Arizona State went to
overtime Fiesta Bowl was a blowout.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Sue wants to know why last year's national championship wasn't
incredible ratings wise because it was Ohio State and Notre Dame,
which are both helmet teams. They're both helmet teams from
the same region, which I think works against you a
little bit that it wasn't Ohio State Alabama, or Ohio
State Georgia or Notre Dame Georgia or something like that.
You also, I think once your team is not in it,
(41:16):
it feels like, well, college football season's over, you know,
January first, if your team loses. Okay, college football seasons
over January tenth. If your team loses, your brain is
used to thinking, okay, well college football season's over now,
and so it is, you know, January twentieth, I think
it was last year or twenty first. I think this
(41:37):
year nineteenth or twenty first. This year, that is real
late for college football season, and every other college football
team has moved on. You've got guys in the portal,
You've got guys who you know are off to the
NFL Draft. Everyone's in off season mode other than the
teams that are still playing there. We had a lot
of people last year comments like basically like oh, yeah,
I forgot this is still going on. And I think
(41:58):
that until you sort of train people that this is
this is when the college football season still runs to
you know, everyone who's watching this, Yeah, you're gonna be watching.
But TV numbers rely on the casuals. You know that
your next door neighbor who goes up and asks you
how you know, is do they still have that Jeremiah,
(42:19):
that nice Jeremiah kid on the team this year? Like
you know, the people who show up at the stadium
for the first game and are like, so, who's the
quarterback this year? Like those are the people who are
who are the ones who actually really drive the TV numbers,
Cause the real intense fans you're gonna be watching no
matter what it's it's can you get the casuals to watch?
(42:41):
This World Series? This year was huge and it was
partly because you had, you know, great narrative around it.
Plus you had the most famous baseball player in the
world and maybe one of the greatest players ever in
the World series playing a major starring role. So you
got the casual people tuning in, and the numbers really
huge numbers, even though one of the teams is from
Canada and Canadian members don't count, so if you.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Can counting with them and the Japanese numbers to say
it was, you know, far and away the most viewed
World series an xyz amount of time, because they're taking
the Canadian numbers and they're taking NHK or whatever Japanese
channel it's on, and they're cooking them all together. But
it's also to the point and we'll get to Micurino
super Chat in a second of we also had this
(43:24):
change of where they decided to start putting all these
games on ESPN. We know a lot of people are
not getting ESPN at the moment. That should be remedied
by the time we get to December, January or whatever.
It's a lot easier. It's hard to compare apples and
apples of you know, old apples, because when it was
just on ABC and you know, mom Pok Kettle in
(43:45):
Bucyrus were able to watch the game without having to
go through a lot of work to get to it.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
If I can't put a Canadian coin in a pop
machine and get a pop out, then their ratings should
not count in America. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's a soda machine.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Mike Frano says. Notre Dame also went like four possessions
of that a first dame after that for a first time.
After that first drive, it was a blowout. Game was
trending towards the blowout for a while, yeah, I mean
after that long Queen John Judkins run right after halftime
and then they punched that touchdown and it was what
thirty one seven and at that point it was just
basically Ohio State just needs to run out the clock,
and a lot of people again the casuals turned off
(44:22):
the TV and went to bed and woke up the
next morning. Oh it was closer than I thought like that,
but if you have to get up to go to
work the next morning. And on Tuesday, January twenty first,
a lot of people did. If you're not super invested
in the game, you turn this, you know, especially if
you're not you know, if you don't like Ohio State,
you don't want to see Ohio State win. Yeah, everyone
(44:43):
in Michigan turned that TV off when it was thirty
one to seven Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Now. I mean, also, keep in mind, the five lowest
rated National Championship games have been the last five.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, that's a broad TV trend, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
So that's that's another thing to keep in mind. And
like the the the highest rated one was the first one,
and that was Ohio State over Oregon by five point
one plus million. Over number two. The Ohio State was
three thirty three point nine million, and then two was
Alabama against Georgia and overtime twenty eight point eight million.
(45:20):
So that's and then it just you know, gradually dips,
just like all all ratings basically as you said, So
like the last five being the lowest rated, I think
that's just normal. And then last year was a week
lasted a week longer than any other season before it,
but I still expected better ratings. But maybe maybe that's
(45:41):
the best rating you're going to get for the time being.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
We have a couple of super chats as we're starting
to accelerate here, so we'll go through these. Murpy Serafino
really wish the quarters were home field, would make the
conference championship games mean more and getting a top four
seed mean more. Plus that was awesome last year here.
I'm a bowl apologist. I love the Bowls system, but
I also know that I'm you know, get off my
(46:08):
lawn old man yells at cloud and everything else. Six seven.
I mean, I gotta I gotta get young and hip
and everything. But you know, I understand the point Murphy
is making there. I don't necessarily want to get too
far away from the bulls. The Bulls have just been
part of this forever and ever and ever again. But damn,
that Ohio s Tennessee scene was special, even though it
(46:29):
was like forty three degrees below zero.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Kevin's just a bread of big sued by the rose ball, right,
isn't that right? Chat?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Kevin was Kevin was up in the press box, pork
Kevin was cold at the Ohio State Tennessee. The hot
dogs weren't as hot as I wanted. In the press box,
I had.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
To walk to my car. That was terrible. I mean,
that was terrible from my close parking spot over in
one of the garages.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Don't docks yourself. I didn't say, yeah, I would love
more on campus thing, just because the on campus scene
is better than a bowl scene. Outside of the Rose Bowl,
which is the exception to every rule, every We've been
to every one of these six New Year sites over
the last five years, six years, so you know, we
(47:16):
can we can speak about this pretty authoritatively. Outside of
the Rose Bowl, they're all just kind of like they're fine,
and the folks who put them put the events onto
a great job, and they're wonderful and they're very dedicated
and we love them to death. But you know, if
if you have Ohio State going into into Athens, Georgia,
or you've got the Alabama Crimson Tide coming up to
(47:38):
Ann Arbor to play on New Year's Day, like yeah, man,
sign me up, Like sign me up three times over
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I am complete agreement.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Super check from mikahnna check out my show merch for
the Luma Nutty podcast. I get the profits thanks to
those who choose to support me. Means a lot. And
love you all. We love you, Mika. You've been a
supporter here on the channel for a long time. Congratulations
and good luck with your show. Uh we don't. We
don't support a lot of shows. We got our own.
We we got our own damn things to worry about.
(48:12):
But you know we we do love you, Miika. So
there you go. But any you know, any final thoughts.
I mean, it's not a lot of drama. You know,
we talked about the bacon on the breakfast buffet. We
you know, we talked about Uh, I don't that's about
all I remember.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Those would be you know, all of the fresh baked
like those are like legit probably real baked goods that
they've got there as well. But overall, I just I
always like looking at these and knowing that it won't
be this. It'll be something like this. It'll be incredibly fun,
it'll be exciting, it'll give everybody something to look forward to,
something to talk about. And even if some of the
(48:54):
games are blowouts, we always have a good time with
with the college football playoff. I think it's undefeated.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Greg says super Chats are losing steam to him. THEMN
the Torpedoes full Tom ahead strong agree. I do want
to hit real quickly. I paused the TV like twenty
minutes ago when they put the ACC teams in graphic up,
and I think there's a lot of false precision in
these numbers. But the chance to make the ACC Title Game,
which is basically the ticket to admission for someone like
(49:23):
Miami into the playoff, chance to make ACC Title Game
six percent, and then they would need to win it.
So the chance to win is four percent. Georgia Tech
fifty five percent to make the ACC Title and thirty
five percent to win. Virginia still thirty six percent to
make and then you know Pitt and Louisville just under
ten percent, and then you've got you know, you have Dougan,
(49:45):
You've got some other teams in there as well. But yeah,
that's going to be a really, really fun race to
watch for the right to maybe get in and then
lose by a million to everyone else. Jeff wants to
know how we have all the chats covering Tom's head.
You just wait longer, just wait, there you go, now
they're covering Kevin's head.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I'm gonna take that off.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So all right, we do. Thanks, thank you guys all
for all of the chats, super chats, regular chats, and
of course the anti Tom chats. Always again, you're exercising,
you're right as a human being, and I'm not going
to impede that ever. One last super chat for Mike Farino.
I believe the only ACC team Miami can have a
(50:32):
tie breaker over is pit. They need everyone else to
have more losses and well they've got a beat Pitt
to get that tiebreaker. But that could happen and we
will see Rob h with the super chat. I don't
get to catch you guys live very often in the
evenings these days, working seven tens for second shift for
the foreseeable future. Tonight is no exception. Just wanted to
(50:53):
say thanks for your hard work, guys, Rob. Thank you
for your hard work. Those are some legit hours and
we do appreciate you guys stopping by. Rob especially, and
thanks for that super chat, and thank you all for
stopping by. We will let you all go and do
your own things now and again thumbs up. If you haven't,
we would appreciate that and of course check us out
(51:13):
a bucket huddle as well. Thank you all for tune
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