August 19, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr discuss Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith and the potential records he could break this season. From receiving yards to touchdowns, they analyze Smith's chances and the factors that could influence his performance. Join them for an in-depth conversation about Smith's impact on the team and his place in Buckeye history.
00:00 Introduction and Show Setup
00:47 Jeremiah Smith's Potential Impact
01:37 Analyzing Jeremiah Smith's Records
02:33 Challenges in Breaking Records
05:25 Historical Comparisons and Predictions
10:14 Game Scenarios and Final Thoughts
14:16 Touchdown Catches in a Game
16:01 Betting Odds and Predictions
18:33 Most 100-Yard Games in a Season
22:54 Career Records at Ohio State
25:37 Jeremiah Smith's Future Records
29:53 Conclusion and Sign-Off
00:00 Introduction and Show Setup
00:47 Jeremiah Smith's Potential Impact
01:37 Analyzing Jeremiah Smith's Records
02:33 Challenges in Breaking Records
05:25 Historical Comparisons and Predictions
10:14 Game Scenarios and Final Thoughts
14:16 Touchdown Catches in a Game
16:01 Betting Odds and Predictions
18:33 Most 100-Yard Games in a Season
22:54 Career Records at Ohio State
25:37 Jeremiah Smith's Future Records
29:53 Conclusion and Sign-Off
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
How's it going, Tony? It is two of my very
favorite kind of shows crammed into one. Number one, the
one where we're outside and at the mercy of nature
and all of nature's majesty and the loudness of that majesty.
And number two, the kind of show where you know
what we're doing and I have had no opportunity to
(00:30):
prep whatsoever. So this is going to be one hundred
percent vibes based, and we will see how good I
am at vibes.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Now, I guess well, I will let you know. Your
vibes will be on the record. And so we are talking.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's what the microphone. Yes, yes, yes, we are recording.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We are recording.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is We're gonna be talking about Jeremiah and what
he's going to be able to do this year. What
is your Jeremiah Smith. Thank you for that clarification.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I went back.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We did a little bit of a show of over
unders and predictions last year, and one of those things
was Jeremiah Smith. Because I put out on Twitter, give
me some Jeremiah Smith over unders, and somebody came back
with five hundred yards receiving, and I threw that. In
the show, We're both like over, immediately over, yeah, and
then I went for some reason, I went nine to
ninety five point five instead of nine to ninety nine
(01:15):
point five.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We know, I'm not mad.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I don't think the four yards made a huge difference,
but we both went over. You.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You were like a fairly easy over for me. That
was your quote.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But also before that show, as that show is beginning,
you gave the same complaints because these are all things
that I was springing on you, and you're like, it's
not fair to Tom. Nobody cares about what's fair of Tom.
So I want to talk about what records could Jeremiah
Smith set this year, because not just season records, there
is potential for him to already hit some career receiving
(01:51):
records at Ohio State. And we are talking receiving records.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, got it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Got So I'm just gonna run through them and we'll
go one at a time to see whether.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We think to pull up his stats from last season
just to have them.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
In full with me.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, seventy six catches, thirteen hundred and fifteen yards and
fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yes, seventeen point three yards per sue reception, eighty two
point two yards per game.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
All right, and basically like four point seventy five receptions
per game. So let's talk about receiving yards record, which
is sixteen hundred and six from Jackson Smith and Jigba
in twenty twenty one. And when we both went over
the over under last year, we were like, let's talk
about a sixteen game season, yes, which is what it was.
And so here Tom, you need just over one hundred
(02:35):
yards receiving per game for Jeremiah Smith, who was absolutely
capable of that. Nobody questions that. However, there have only
been three Ohio State receivers who ever average over one
hundred yards receiving for a season per game. Do you
see sixteen oh seven for Jeremiah Smith this year.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm going to start us out with no, We're going
to kill the right away. I'm going to say no,
and you can. I think this is one of the
things where you need too many different things to line
up correctly. He's going to have games where he's going
to have less than one hundred yards. Yeah, I mean,
and I don't know that he's necessarily that maybe he's
(03:18):
the kind of guy who could put up a two
hundred and seventy five yard game to make up four.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, Yeah, we'll get to that. You know, Jackson Smith
and Jigba had that rose Ball game where he had
three hundred and fifty four yards or whatever that was.
But you needed so much stuff to line up for that.
The turning pro, two guys turning pro, plus you needed
a terrible defense, plus, you needed a generational quarterback. Plus.
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I mean, there were so much stuff that needed to
line up there. I'm gonna say, I don't know whether
they fall short of sixteen games or he falls short
of one hundred yards average per game, but one way
or the other, odds are this is a does not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Get broke it. Okay, I'm I'm with you there.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think this is gonna be maybe of the season
totals that Jackson Smith and jig was set, and we'll
talk about those. This might be the most difficult just
because only three guys have had the kind of season
over like thirteen games or twelve games where they've hit
this one hundred yard game total, and they did it
pretty well Jackson Smith and Jig but that year one
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hundred and twenty three point five, Terry glenn Is nineteen
ninety five, one hundred and seventeen point six, David Boston
in nineteen ninety eight, one hundred nineteen point six. Now
could Jeremiah Smith do that, Yes, But do they need
him to do that?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Probably not. This is a much better defense, which means
you're probably coming off the field in the third quarter
of a decent number of games, and they're running the
ball in the fourth quarter of a decent number of games.
A lot of those years, I mean it, just the
Jackson Smith and jigbas season really stands out, just because
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of how bad that defense was and they just had
to keep scoring. And the years where you had the
huge CJ. Stroud numbers, the huge Joaynte Haskins numbers for
both years where boy, that defense sure can't get off
the field, and boy, they sure are giving up a
lot more long touchdowns than you're used to seeing, and
so the offense has to keep the pedal down a
little longer. I think all of that I'm not expecting
(05:22):
that from this year's Ohio State defense. I think that
sort of works against just well, I.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Think you're gonna go no on this one again, this
next one, because as we know, you are a complete
hater receptions in a game. The school record is fifteen
Jackson Smith and Digba did it twice in twenty twenty one,
once against Utah, once against Nebraska. He had that was
I think it was fifteen hundred and fifteen catches for
like two hundred and forty yards or so against Nebraska,
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and of course the three hundred and forty seven yards.
I'm gonna go ahead and answer for you on this one. No,
he's not gonna get fifteen catches the first he would
need fifteen targets.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, and that's a rarity nowadays.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Right here we go, there's the Gators that we've come
in on love and a semi good good all right,
fantastic love it. Uh So, yeah, I'm gonna say no.
And there's a couple pieces that go into this. It's
not that he can't. I think you've got some of
the stuff good that's going to go into this. That
is the same stuff as the last question, where you're
gonna have defenses focused on taking him away and okay,
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make someone else beat you. But also, Ohime State just
has fewer snaps in a game than they did during
the time. I mean, the number of snaps on offense
has dropped significantly since twenty twenty one. Some of that
was intentional, some of that was clock rules, But either way,
I think you're gonna see that where you have ten, fifteen,
twenty snaps fewer a game, that gives you a lot
(06:41):
fewer opportunities. Plus the diverse clurification of the passing offense
this year, You've got some real good other wide receivers
out there. You've also got a real good tight end
or two out there. You've also got running back to
We're gonna be part of that passing offense. And with
a young quarterback, I think they would like to run
the ball a bacent amount if they can, so I
just I just think it's gonna be a challenge for
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him to get fifteen targets, let alone as you said fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Imagine Jeremiah Smith in twenty eighteen, when they're running tempo
and they're just throwing the ball fifty times a game,
what he could do because now we're talking you know
DeVante Smith. Yeah, type of twenty twenty schedule where you
know DeVante Smith that year eleven, I think they played
nine eleven or nine eleven twelve games.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He had like one hundred and seventeen receptions. Yeah, and
they just force fed him.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Me average nine catches the game, so whatever that he
equals out to, but they force fed it to him
and they found ways to get in the ball. That's
something that they're gonna need to do this year with Jeremiah,
just because there's gonna be so much focus and you
don't want to not use him. So I'm with you.
We'll both go under that one. Here's one.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Let the truck pass two different major national delivery services.
Now we just need DHL to go by.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That might just be a plane like smacking into the ground.
That one existens the show. Ninety five receptions in the season, now,
Jackson Smithton Jago again twenty twenty one. What that would
take this year? Sixteen game season? Six catches a game.
That doesn't seem like a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, it doesn't. He had seventy six last year in
sixteen games and.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Basically asking for one more game, Yeah, which you should get.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But but are they going to get to sixteen games?
You know, if it's fourteen games. Then it works out
to probably seven a game, give or take. So then
you're asking for a little more and seven sevens a lot.
It doesn't seem like that many, but again you're running
into some of the same issues we've talked about, fewer
(08:44):
snaps in a game, probably getting off the field a
little earlier, you know, clocking out for the day in
the middle of the third quarter. This is this is
closer to me. This is one where I really kind
of have to think about it, and this is the
first one and where I'm thinking, I'm gonna say no,
But there's a real potability I'm wrong here, because you
could you could absolutely see him doing that, because having
(09:06):
eleven catches in one game and then you have three
in another, and that's fine, you're still kind of on track.
I'm gonna say no, but it's it's a no with
a little bit of a pause in the middle.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There's only three guys who've ever done seven catches a
game at Ohio State in the season. There's only been
six that have done at least six, and one of
those is Billy Anders back in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
The complete outlier.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think it's Andy and.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And the Ohio state record books.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I think of all of these, I think that's
possible in sixteen games, and it's all possible.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right, Yeah, this is the most possible, right, especially if
they get to sixteen games. If you can tell me
how many games they're playing, I'll tell you how likely
that is.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because I feel like six receptions in the game should
be what they want. That should be the bar, because
you want to have more, more than last year. Yeah,
so yeah, he was four point seventy five last year.
You want more than last year, you know, shoot for six.
I guess receiving yards in the game three hundred and
forty seven. We don't need to spend too much time
on it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
All all the stuff from before. The defense is going
to be good enough that they don't need to do
this probably and pace of play and other receivers and
that that involved all of that, all of this stuff
that we talked about before. Plus Utah was playing a
running back as their slot corner in that game because
due to injuries and just being shorthanded. That was that
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was such a one of one kind of situation that
I think that's going to be very very challenging for
him to do. And listen, if they go up to
Ann Arbor and he does it against Michigan, you feel
free to let me know in the comments about you
dummy back in August.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But so six two hundred yard games in Ohio state history,
two of them by by Jackson Smith and jig Bet.
Will Jeremiah Smith add his name to that list. He
had like one hundred and seventy something against Tennessee or Oregon,
words like that was going to be a t underd
yard game, but they didn't need it, right, Yeah, yeah,
one hundred and fifty and the first half or whatever
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on hundred and twenty in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I kind of think they might be shooting a little
bit for the Heisman this year. So, you know, a
two hundred yard game here, I went, I'm gonna go
ahead and say yes.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm also going to say yes just because you're you're
kind of trying to shoot the moon here in a
certain degree where you know, Terry Glenn, I know, did
that against Hit and that was a game where there
was an absolute blowout, and Jackson Smith and Jigma did
it in a game against Utah where it was a
very very close game. You said he did it with
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the other ones around Nebraska, which is also a somewhat
close game. You need to do it against a team
the challenges you're trying to you know, could he do
it against Grambling?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Absolutely? Is he going to do it against Crambling? Did
you think they're playing Jackson Smith and Jigma Jeremiah Smith
in the second quarter and it's forty five nothing? No,
I do not think they are going.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I think it's got to be a good enough team
that he's out there for at least three plus quarters,
but also not so good a team where you're playing
against you know, an elite, elite secondary where it's gonna
be very hard to do that. I don't think he
does against Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know, it's gonna be a challenge to do it
against Penn State. But also you're not gonna do it
against Grambler in or High University probably, So you gotta
find that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sort of middle down Illinois at Wisconsin where sir, may
I may I remind you about the wind?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh, sir, at both places?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
At both places. Yeah, but it's but it's somewhere like that, like, hey,
they find a matchup they love in that Wisconsin secondary
or that Illinois secondary. It might be the Wisconsin secondary
because I think Illinois took like three or four players
in Wisconsin's defense in the portal this year. I think
was three, So maybe you can do it up in Wisconsin.
(12:55):
But yeah, it's gonna take. It's a real nice day
out in Seattle and you you find a matchup you
love out there, and but it's gonna take. It's gonna
be a really you know, I could I could probably
tell you like if this happens, is gonna happen in
one of like these four types of.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Games, and it's like, Ohio State never gets up by
enough to take him off the field, so it's always
like a fourteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
One Demond Williams leads Washington on a couple more touchdown
drives than you'd think, and it's yeah, it's a thirty
five twenty one game. In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
San Antonio homes two hundred and twenty four yards against
Marshall two thousand and four, the Mike Nugent game, which.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're you're thinking, hey, that's a that's a non power team.
That must have been a blowout.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Ah ah, No, that was a boy. What a season that.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Was Jerry Ohio State seasons. That's certainly one of them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, Jerry Williams two hundred twenty yards against Florida State
in eighty one.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Speaking of bad Ohio State defenses.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, and they needed all of those yards they lost
that yay.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, So that was and that's one where arch Leister was.
That's one of those like great outliers in Ohio state history.
Read four something.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yard that was the record for a long time until
Dwayne Askins broke it yep. And then David Boston two
hundred and seventeen yards ten catches against Michigan exactly. So okay,
we have both decided that two hundred yards not three
forty seven. So then we moved to this next one,
which is touchdown catches in a game four guys have
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done or three guys have done it four times four catches,
So Dane San's and Baker twenty ten against Eastern Michigan.
We all remember Noah Brown against Oklahoma in nineteen twenty
sixteen and Terry Glenn and ninety five against pitt This
is another one where it takes a desire to do it,
and do you or it's an Oklahoma thing where you
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need it. So if it happens against Ohio, this is
a thing we're doing. Yes for the attention, for the clouts,
a TD clout. If it happens against you know, anybody
else or you Penn State or Michigan.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's like, you go with what works?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So, yeah, do you see him adding himself to the
four touchdown catch legacies of Noah Brown, Terry Glenn, and
Dane Sonzenbacher. Basically, if he does it, there's a mount
rushmore of Ohio state wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I mean, I can't argue with that's just math. I can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I can't argue with that's say it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, this feels to me less likely than two hundred.
But also I don't really feel comfortable saying no. This
is you know, the structure of this show is such
that we either have to say yes or we have
to say no. And in reality, in my head, I'm
just kind of doing the math here, like, well, this
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is this is much more than a you know, five
ten percent chance where you'd need everything to go right,
like the yardage in a game? Is this fifty percent?
I couldn't say it's not fifty percent, which is what
put that in the headline. I couldn't say it's not
fifty percent, Jeremiah Smith colon.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
If you're gonna put down twenty bucks on it, the
better bet as you bet than him to do it,
Because I don't know what odd would be.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I was gonna say, what are the odds? I feel
I feel like I should be getting plus.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Even money for him not doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
If I feel like you should be, you should be
getting better odds on him doing it. You know it's
plus one fifty or something like that. It feels like
this is not probably an even money bet.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
For him to not do it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
For him to not do it feels like it's probably
more than fifty percent for him to not do it.
But it's like sixty forty something like that. So at
that point, and at that point I have I can,
I kind of default to the yeah, but I don't.
I mean, you'd have lost a lot of money betting
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against Jeremiah Smith last year in virtually any area. So
even though I think this is probably less than fifty
to fifty to happen, I also feel like, yeah, I
mean I can you could see him doing this in
almost any game if they if they came out and
decided we're going to get him four touchdowns in the
first half against Grambling in the first twenty five minutes
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of the game against Grimblin, they could absolutely do that.
Like what do they want to do against Gramblin? Because
you can do I go back to the Florida A
and M game, which was very similar situation where it's
like a why did you schedule this game because of
the band? The football team is sort of ancillary to
the fact of the band, And in that case, the
band didn't even come now and that was one of
the least competitive football games I've ever seen. Full stop.
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This is gonna be probably you know, they're going to
keep it simple. But and I would guess that Grambling
is going to just try and basically box and won
Jeremiah Smith for most of that game. I don't know
if that matters, but.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They may be instructed, you know how, like when you
bring in somebody to scrimmage, you and you're like, this
is the defense that we want to see, be like
all man, yeah, no zone press or else you won't
get your money.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna long story short, I'm gonna say, yes,
he does it. I don't actually feel like this is
better than fifty to fifty. But also I feel like,
even though it's not better than fifty to fifty, I
feel like it should be better than fifty to fifty.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say, yes, he does it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's fifty to fifty, yes or no, so and that
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Would you like to take what's behind door number three months?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, we're not doing that again. Too much math and
as we know, not great. Most one hundred yard games
in the season for a wide receiver is eight by
Marvin Harrison in twenty twenty three, David Boston in nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Jeremiah Smith only had five last year.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, but how.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Because you also had the running game, you also had
a machabuca say fewer snaps, although I would say these
are probably commensurate snaps to what they did in ninety eight.
You know, with all the huddling and things like that
you had you had d Miller there in ninety eight or.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, Miller almost a thousand years, so like there was that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You also had some tight end usage there with maybe
like John Kin. But five seems pretty low, and it's like, boy,
kind of disappointing you look back on a season. Pretty
disappointing there, Jeremiah, can you do stop saying canny? The
answer is yes, we will.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, will will yeah. Boy. This is one where the
eight seems low, the five seems incredibly low, and this
is one where my brain is going, well, dummy, take
the hint that this is not as easy as you
think it is because you think, are they mowing the
field across the field, across the street? Of course they are,
(19:54):
absolutely they are. I think this is one that is
not as easy to do as it seems like it
should be. But also, I feel like I've already said
no on this two or three times, and I don't
feel like saying no on Jeremiah Smith that frequently. Is
a very smart idea. And again, could you see him
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he could do this by Halloween? Probably right, I mean
you could you could certainly see him doing this. I
wonder if I mean you mentioned the Heisman campaign. I
go back to the nineteen ninety five season, not with
Terry Glenn but with Eddie George, and I remember the
kickoff classicains Boston College. Eddie George finished with ninety nine
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yards rushing, and John Cooper later said, well, you know,
if we thought about it, we would have gotten him
a hundred because what does it matter? But it matters. Look, oh,
look look down his list of and you know, oh
he got over one hundred yards against Texas, you know,
or I just held him under one hundred yards or what.
You know that you get that kind of level of needy,
(21:01):
gritty stuff. I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say yes,
he does it because you could you absolutely could see
him doing it. And I think you're gonna have certain
times in the season where they're gonna pay. You're up
seventeen points in the early fourth quarter, let's get that
dagger and while we're at it, maybe we can get
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Jeremiah one more touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
How much do you think Brian Hartline is pushing for it? So, hey,
I recruited a Heisman Trophy whin You know?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, yeah, and that's part of it too. Your your
offensive coordinator is a wide receivers coach. Your head coach
who is specializes in the offensive side of the ball
is a quarterback. Yeah, they've got Tyler Browin as the
run game coordinator, but they brought in a run game
coordinator because the two guys who are kind of the
guys who are gonna be most you know, this is
still a Ryan Day offense if it's Brian Hartline calling it,
(21:54):
those guys are both kind of going to lean a
little bit towards the passing side of things. So I
probably should have taken that into account more. You know,
I'm just now thinking that, Brian.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here's the thing though, if Jeremiah Smith has say, three
or four more one hundred yard games than he did
last year, yeah, is not gonna put him like that?
Is that sixteen hundred and six yards sixteen hundred and
seven yards?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know? Yeah, he has depends on how many games
they play.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And the other thing is if he gets more out
of what he did against Penn State in Michigan where
they held him under sixty yards both in Texas, you know,
we know three yards if you if he just has
average games there and then also raises his game a
little sixteen hundred and seven yards, We've gone past that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're not going back, and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I will say I'm gonna say no that he does
not get that way.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Tom. You know, we love to embrace debate. So now
I want you to think about this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The career records at Ohio State for receiving, for receptions, yep,
receiving yards, touchdowns. He is twenty touchdowns away from tying
the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
He is.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
He's not going to get to the receptions, which is
two hundred and five, so he'd need you know, one hundred.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And twenty five or whatever a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
However, Tom, he's fifteen hundred and eighty four yards away
from breaking the all time receiving yardage record.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I feel like if you.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Let Ryan Day and Brian Hartlin know that now or beforehand,
like not, maybe they do, maybe they don't, But boy,
is that not a nice little target to shoot for
two years setting all of the records?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Or does that make the school look bad? But it
only took two years?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. You can go through
the list of wide receivers at Ohio State and there
are a bunch of pretty good names on that list.
So you know this this is not a you know,
the career receiving record at Iowa. Wow, that's wow. I
think everyone is familiar with the wide receivers in Ohio
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State history, going back to Chris Carter and all those guys,
Bill and Billy Anders. Yes, I think so. So, you know,
I don't think that devalues it at all. I think
this is not something that I don't think they they
make this the central pillar of the seasons. Get Jeremiah
Smith to break this record this season. I think you're
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running into a lot of the same issues. You know, obviously,
because since we're only talking about a thirty yard difference
or whatever it is from the single season record. So
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But you know that's he is, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Receiving yardage total or receiving receptions total, yardage total, touchdowns total,
So one hundred and twenty whatever and fifteen hundred and
whatever and twenty touchdowns. He doesn't break any of them
this year, but he breaks all of them by October
tenth of next season something like that. October twentieth of
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next I mean, receptions is probably the last one.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
He's one hundred and thirty away from owning it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So yeah, okay, so he breaks two of those. He
breaks yardage and touchdowns by October fifteenth, twenty twenty six,
and he breaks the receptions total by the end of
the regular season. Of twenty twenty six, so none this year,
but all early to mid next season.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
No, I'm going for it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm going to say he's going to own their career
receiving yardage total after this season.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So your your prediction is that he will have between
fifteen and.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I could get some amazing odds for that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You sure could, and I would go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And there are no prop bets in Ohio, so no
player bets in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So but well, if you really nail that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Weekly podcast brought to you by Wheeling.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Island, So that's all I've got, do you do you
feel bad about being so doubtful of Jeremiah Sis?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So this is thank you to our special guest host,
another Gator. Somehow, I think some of so many of
these records are incredible one off records where if you're
asking me, does he beat whatever the record was before
Jackson's from the Jigba showed up, I think those are
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probably a lot of yes. Is he number two in
a lot of these categories by the end of the season.
I think the answer is probably a lot of yes.
Is They're just there are just so many one off
things that had to happen for those things to happen
that he's amazing, but he has a lot of those
things working against him. Where the defense is better, that
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the tempo is slower, the you know, the offense is
more diversified. You've got a lot of that stuff working
against you. Where you know, if if saying that he
will not break a bunch of career records before the
end of his second season makes me a hater, then Tony,
I guess I'm a hater. But you know, he will
own every record in the Ohio State record book by
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the time he's done.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And if he doesn't own it, it's not worth having.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, it's either he owns it or he's within you know,
he's got three of the top five or something. In
terms of career the single season receiving.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yard age, there are also those like average yards per
catch where you just got these crazy guys that are
like thirty two yards per catch because they had sixteen
catches over the.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Course of their four years.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So if we remove Jackson's git the Jigbut the the
receiving receptions is ninety Paris Cambell in twenty eighteen. But
again that's just you get into the nineties. So I'm
gonna say no, the yardage is fourteen thirty five by
David Boston, which feels there.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Extremely there it yeah, there, I'm probably saying yes, and
then yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then the touchdowns, which we didn't even get into.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
And didn't he break it last year?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, so yeah, I'm I'm he had fifteen last year, yeah,
and dropped the first one. You could have had sixteen
him dropped one. I'm sure throughout the course of the season,
if they would have targeted more, you could find three
more in there, like so seventeen I'm gonna say, yes,
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he's gonna get And I don't feel great about saying
I just feel like they're gonna attack with him somehow,
And there's gonna be a couple of three touchdown games,
Like Marvin ed.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think there's gonna be some chunks in there.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, you're gonna have some three touchdown games, and they
have a couple of three touchdown games. Maybe one of
them is a four touchdown game. And wait, and you
get a bunch of you had a bunch of ones.
You know, well, if you say over under zero point
five touchdowns per game for him, you're gonna feel like
an idiot every time you got. So you figure he's
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gonna have at least a touchdown in eight or nine
in regular season games and he has another, you know,
another two in one he's got the one and then
one or two and then he's got it. He's got
a four, so we can know three. There's a three
plus two plus one plus one is seven. So I've
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got him to fifteen at the end of the regular season.
Like I mean, yeah, you're probably, I mean you're probably
in there. I'll say yes, just because they're gonna, you know,
they'll play some kind of postseason game, right some kind
so I'll say I'll say at least ties the touchdown
record or in touch single season touchdown.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Terry Glynn did that and I believe eleven games because
he was hurt for he got hurt against Minnesota and
then he missed at least one game. Yeah, ridiculous season
that he had.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Jeremiah Smith is gonna set some records, gonna not set
some others, but will eventually then set those records as
a junior at Ohio State. So I want to thank
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Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't that's not my thing.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
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Speaker 1 (30:14):
Thank you all for tuning in and we will talk
to you guys later
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
How's it going, Tony? It is two of my very
favorite kind of shows crammed into one. Number one, the
one where we're outside and at the mercy of nature
and all of nature's majesty and the loudness of that majesty.
And number two, the kind of show where you know
what we're doing and I have had no opportunity to
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prep whatsoever. So this is going to be one hundred
percent vibes based, and we will see how good I
am at vibes.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Now, I guess well, I will let you know. Your
vibes will be on the record. And so we are talking.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's what the microphone. Yes, yes, yes, we are recording.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We are recording.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is We're gonna be talking about Jeremiah and what
he's going to be able to do this year. What
is your Jeremiah Smith. Thank you for that clarification.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I went back.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We did a little bit of a show of over
unders and predictions last year, and one of those things
was Jeremiah Smith. Because I put out on Twitter, give
me some Jeremiah Smith over unders, and somebody came back
with five hundred yards receiving, and I threw that. In
the show, We're both like over, immediately over, yeah, and
then I went for some reason, I went nine to
ninety five point five instead of nine to ninety nine
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point five.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We know, I'm not mad.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I don't think the four yards made a huge difference,
but we both went over. You.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You were like a fairly easy over for me. That
was your quote.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But also before that show, as that show is beginning,
you gave the same complaints because these are all things
that I was springing on you, and you're like, it's
not fair to Tom. Nobody cares about what's fair of Tom.
So I want to talk about what records could Jeremiah
Smith set this year, because not just season records, there
is potential for him to already hit some career receiving
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records at Ohio State. And we are talking receiving records.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, got it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Got So I'm just gonna run through them and we'll
go one at a time to see whether.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We think to pull up his stats from last season
just to have them.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
In full with me.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, seventy six catches, thirteen hundred and fifteen yards and
fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yes, seventeen point three yards per sue reception, eighty two
point two yards per game.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
All right, and basically like four point seventy five receptions
per game. So let's talk about receiving yards record, which
is sixteen hundred and six from Jackson Smith and Jigba
in twenty twenty one. And when we both went over
the over under last year, we were like, let's talk
about a sixteen game season, yes, which is what it was.
And so here Tom, you need just over one hundred
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yards receiving per game for Jeremiah Smith, who was absolutely
capable of that. Nobody questions that. However, there have only
been three Ohio State receivers who ever average over one
hundred yards receiving for a season per game. Do you
see sixteen oh seven for Jeremiah Smith this year.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm going to start us out with no, We're going
to kill the right away. I'm going to say no,
and you can. I think this is one of the
things where you need too many different things to line
up correctly. He's going to have games where he's going
to have less than one hundred yards. Yeah, I mean,
and I don't know that he's necessarily that maybe he's
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the kind of guy who could put up a two
hundred and seventy five yard game to make up four.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, Yeah, we'll get to that. You know, Jackson Smith
and Jigba had that rose Ball game where he had
three hundred and fifty four yards or whatever that was.
But you needed so much stuff to line up for that.
The turning pro, two guys turning pro, plus you needed
a terrible defense, plus, you needed a generational quarterback. Plus.
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I mean, there were so much stuff that needed to
line up there. I'm gonna say, I don't know whether
they fall short of sixteen games or he falls short
of one hundred yards average per game, but one way
or the other, odds are this is a does not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Get broke it. Okay, I'm I'm with you there.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think this is gonna be maybe of the season
totals that Jackson Smith and jig was set, and we'll
talk about those. This might be the most difficult just
because only three guys have had the kind of season
over like thirteen games or twelve games where they've hit
this one hundred yard game total, and they did it
pretty well Jackson Smith and Jig but that year one
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hundred and twenty three point five, Terry glenn Is nineteen
ninety five, one hundred and seventeen point six, David Boston
in nineteen ninety eight, one hundred nineteen point six. Now
could Jeremiah Smith do that, Yes, But do they need
him to do that?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Probably not. This is a much better defense, which means
you're probably coming off the field in the third quarter
of a decent number of games, and they're running the
ball in the fourth quarter of a decent number of games.
A lot of those years, I mean it, just the
Jackson Smith and jigbas season really stands out, just because
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of how bad that defense was and they just had
to keep scoring. And the years where you had the
huge CJ. Stroud numbers, the huge Joaynte Haskins numbers for
both years where boy, that defense sure can't get off
the field, and boy, they sure are giving up a
lot more long touchdowns than you're used to seeing, and
so the offense has to keep the pedal down a
little longer. I think all of that I'm not expecting
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that from this year's Ohio State defense. I think that
sort of works against just well, I.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Think you're gonna go no on this one again, this
next one, because as we know, you are a complete
hater receptions in a game. The school record is fifteen
Jackson Smith and Digba did it twice in twenty twenty one,
once against Utah, once against Nebraska. He had that was
I think it was fifteen hundred and fifteen catches for
like two hundred and forty yards or so against Nebraska,
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and of course the three hundred and forty seven yards.
I'm gonna go ahead and answer for you on this one. No,
he's not gonna get fifteen catches the first he would
need fifteen targets.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, and that's a rarity nowadays.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Right here we go, there's the Gators that we've come
in on love and a semi good good all right,
fantastic love it. Uh So, yeah, I'm gonna say no.
And there's a couple pieces that go into this. It's
not that he can't. I think you've got some of
the stuff good that's going to go into this. That
is the same stuff as the last question, where you're
gonna have defenses focused on taking him away and okay,
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make someone else beat you. But also, Ohime State just
has fewer snaps in a game than they did during
the time. I mean, the number of snaps on offense
has dropped significantly since twenty twenty one. Some of that
was intentional, some of that was clock rules, But either way,
I think you're gonna see that where you have ten, fifteen,
twenty snaps fewer a game, that gives you a lot
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fewer opportunities. Plus the diverse clurification of the passing offense
this year, You've got some real good other wide receivers
out there. You've also got a real good tight end
or two out there. You've also got running back to
We're gonna be part of that passing offense. And with
a young quarterback, I think they would like to run
the ball a bacent amount if they can, so I
just I just think it's gonna be a challenge for
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him to get fifteen targets, let alone as you said fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Imagine Jeremiah Smith in twenty eighteen, when they're running tempo
and they're just throwing the ball fifty times a game,
what he could do because now we're talking you know
DeVante Smith. Yeah, type of twenty twenty schedule where you
know DeVante Smith that year eleven, I think they played
nine eleven or nine eleven twelve games.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He had like one hundred and seventeen receptions. Yeah, and
they just force fed him.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Me average nine catches the game, so whatever that he
equals out to, but they force fed it to him
and they found ways to get in the ball. That's
something that they're gonna need to do this year with Jeremiah,
just because there's gonna be so much focus and you
don't want to not use him. So I'm with you.
We'll both go under that one. Here's one.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Let the truck pass two different major national delivery services.
Now we just need DHL to go by.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That might just be a plane like smacking into the ground.
That one existens the show. Ninety five receptions in the season, now,
Jackson Smithton Jago again twenty twenty one. What that would
take this year? Sixteen game season? Six catches a game.
That doesn't seem like a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, it doesn't. He had seventy six last year in
sixteen games and.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Basically asking for one more game, Yeah, which you should get.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But but are they going to get to sixteen games?
You know, if it's fourteen games. Then it works out
to probably seven a game, give or take. So then
you're asking for a little more and seven sevens a lot.
It doesn't seem like that many, but again you're running
into some of the same issues we've talked about, fewer
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snaps in a game, probably getting off the field a
little earlier, you know, clocking out for the day in
the middle of the third quarter. This is this is
closer to me. This is one where I really kind
of have to think about it, and this is the
first one and where I'm thinking, I'm gonna say no,
But there's a real potability I'm wrong here, because you
could you could absolutely see him doing that, because having
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eleven catches in one game and then you have three
in another, and that's fine, you're still kind of on track.
I'm gonna say no, but it's it's a no with
a little bit of a pause in the middle.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There's only three guys who've ever done seven catches a
game at Ohio State in the season. There's only been
six that have done at least six, and one of
those is Billy Anders back in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
The complete outlier.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think it's Andy and.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And the Ohio state record books.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I think of all of these, I think that's
possible in sixteen games, and it's all possible.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right, Yeah, this is the most possible, right, especially if
they get to sixteen games. If you can tell me
how many games they're playing, I'll tell you how likely
that is.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because I feel like six receptions in the game should
be what they want. That should be the bar, because
you want to have more, more than last year. Yeah,
so yeah, he was four point seventy five last year.
You want more than last year, you know, shoot for six.
I guess receiving yards in the game three hundred and
forty seven. We don't need to spend too much time
on it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
All all the stuff from before. The defense is going
to be good enough that they don't need to do
this probably and pace of play and other receivers and
that that involved all of that, all of this stuff
that we talked about before. Plus Utah was playing a
running back as their slot corner in that game because
due to injuries and just being shorthanded. That was that
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was such a one of one kind of situation that
I think that's going to be very very challenging for
him to do. And listen, if they go up to
Ann Arbor and he does it against Michigan, you feel
free to let me know in the comments about you
dummy back in August.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But so six two hundred yard games in Ohio state history,
two of them by by Jackson Smith and jig Bet.
Will Jeremiah Smith add his name to that list. He
had like one hundred and seventy something against Tennessee or Oregon,
words like that was going to be a t underd
yard game, but they didn't need it, right, Yeah, yeah,
one hundred and fifty and the first half or whatever
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on hundred and twenty in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I kind of think they might be shooting a little
bit for the Heisman this year. So, you know, a
two hundred yard game here, I went, I'm gonna go
ahead and say yes.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm also going to say yes just because you're you're
kind of trying to shoot the moon here in a
certain degree where you know, Terry Glenn, I know, did
that against Hit and that was a game where there
was an absolute blowout, and Jackson Smith and Jigma did
it in a game against Utah where it was a
very very close game. You said he did it with
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the other ones around Nebraska, which is also a somewhat
close game. You need to do it against a team
the challenges you're trying to you know, could he do
it against Grambling?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Absolutely? Is he going to do it against Crambling? Did
you think they're playing Jackson Smith and Jigma Jeremiah Smith
in the second quarter and it's forty five nothing? No,
I do not think they are going.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I think it's got to be a good enough team
that he's out there for at least three plus quarters,
but also not so good a team where you're playing
against you know, an elite, elite secondary where it's gonna
be very hard to do that. I don't think he
does against Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know, it's gonna be a challenge to do it
against Penn State. But also you're not gonna do it
against Grambler in or High University probably, So you gotta
find that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sort of middle down Illinois at Wisconsin where sir, may
I may I remind you about the wind?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh, sir, at both places?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
At both places. Yeah, but it's but it's somewhere like that, like, hey,
they find a matchup they love in that Wisconsin secondary
or that Illinois secondary. It might be the Wisconsin secondary
because I think Illinois took like three or four players
in Wisconsin's defense in the portal this year. I think
was three, So maybe you can do it up in Wisconsin.
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But yeah, it's gonna take. It's a real nice day
out in Seattle and you you find a matchup you
love out there, and but it's gonna take. It's gonna
be a really you know, I could I could probably
tell you like if this happens, is gonna happen in
one of like these four types of.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Games, and it's like, Ohio State never gets up by
enough to take him off the field, so it's always
like a fourteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
One Demond Williams leads Washington on a couple more touchdown
drives than you'd think, and it's yeah, it's a thirty
five twenty one game. In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
San Antonio homes two hundred and twenty four yards against
Marshall two thousand and four, the Mike Nugent game, which.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're you're thinking, hey, that's a that's a non power team.
That must have been a blowout.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Ah ah, No, that was a boy. What a season that.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Was Jerry Ohio State seasons. That's certainly one of them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, Jerry Williams two hundred twenty yards against Florida State
in eighty one.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Speaking of bad Ohio State defenses.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, and they needed all of those yards they lost
that yay.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, So that was and that's one where arch Leister was.
That's one of those like great outliers in Ohio state history.
Read four something.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yard that was the record for a long time until
Dwayne Askins broke it yep. And then David Boston two
hundred and seventeen yards ten catches against Michigan exactly. So okay,
we have both decided that two hundred yards not three
forty seven. So then we moved to this next one,
which is touchdown catches in a game four guys have
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done or three guys have done it four times four catches,
So Dane San's and Baker twenty ten against Eastern Michigan.
We all remember Noah Brown against Oklahoma in nineteen twenty
sixteen and Terry Glenn and ninety five against pitt This
is another one where it takes a desire to do it,
and do you or it's an Oklahoma thing where you
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need it. So if it happens against Ohio, this is
a thing we're doing. Yes for the attention, for the clouts,
a TD clout. If it happens against you know, anybody
else or you Penn State or Michigan.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's like, you go with what works?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So, yeah, do you see him adding himself to the
four touchdown catch legacies of Noah Brown, Terry Glenn, and
Dane Sonzenbacher. Basically, if he does it, there's a mount
rushmore of Ohio state wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I mean, I can't argue with that's just math. I can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I can't argue with that's say it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, this feels to me less likely than two hundred.
But also I don't really feel comfortable saying no. This
is you know, the structure of this show is such
that we either have to say yes or we have
to say no. And in reality, in my head, I'm
just kind of doing the math here, like, well, this
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is this is much more than a you know, five
ten percent chance where you'd need everything to go right,
like the yardage in a game? Is this fifty percent?
I couldn't say it's not fifty percent, which is what
put that in the headline. I couldn't say it's not
fifty percent, Jeremiah Smith colon.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
If you're gonna put down twenty bucks on it, the
better bet as you bet than him to do it,
Because I don't know what odd would be.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I was gonna say, what are the odds? I feel
I feel like I should be getting plus.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Even money for him not doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
If I feel like you should be, you should be
getting better odds on him doing it. You know it's
plus one fifty or something like that. It feels like
this is not probably an even money bet.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
For him to not do it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
For him to not do it feels like it's probably
more than fifty percent for him to not do it.
But it's like sixty forty something like that. So at
that point, and at that point I have I can,
I kind of default to the yeah, but I don't.
I mean, you'd have lost a lot of money betting
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against Jeremiah Smith last year in virtually any area. So
even though I think this is probably less than fifty
to fifty to happen, I also feel like, yeah, I
mean I can you could see him doing this in
almost any game if they if they came out and
decided we're going to get him four touchdowns in the
first half against Grambling in the first twenty five minutes
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of the game against Grimblin, they could absolutely do that.
Like what do they want to do against Gramblin? Because
you can do I go back to the Florida A
and M game, which was very similar situation where it's
like a why did you schedule this game because of
the band? The football team is sort of ancillary to
the fact of the band, And in that case, the
band didn't even come now and that was one of
the least competitive football games I've ever seen. Full stop.
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This is gonna be probably you know, they're going to
keep it simple. But and I would guess that Grambling
is going to just try and basically box and won
Jeremiah Smith for most of that game. I don't know
if that matters, but.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They may be instructed, you know how, like when you
bring in somebody to scrimmage, you and you're like, this
is the defense that we want to see, be like
all man, yeah, no zone press or else you won't
get your money.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna long story short, I'm gonna say, yes,
he does it. I don't actually feel like this is
better than fifty to fifty. But also I feel like,
even though it's not better than fifty to fifty, I
feel like it should be better than fifty to fifty.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say, yes, he does it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's fifty to fifty, yes or no, so and that
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Would you like to take what's behind door number three months?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, we're not doing that again. Too much math and
as we know, not great. Most one hundred yard games
in the season for a wide receiver is eight by
Marvin Harrison in twenty twenty three, David Boston in nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Jeremiah Smith only had five last year.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, but how.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Because you also had the running game, you also had
a machabuca say fewer snaps, although I would say these
are probably commensurate snaps to what they did in ninety eight.
You know, with all the huddling and things like that
you had you had d Miller there in ninety eight or.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, Miller almost a thousand years, so like there was that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You also had some tight end usage there with maybe
like John Kin. But five seems pretty low, and it's like, boy,
kind of disappointing you look back on a season. Pretty
disappointing there, Jeremiah, can you do stop saying canny? The
answer is yes, we will.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, will will yeah. Boy. This is one where the
eight seems low, the five seems incredibly low, and this
is one where my brain is going, well, dummy, take
the hint that this is not as easy as you
think it is because you think, are they mowing the
field across the field, across the street? Of course they are,
(19:54):
absolutely they are. I think this is one that is
not as easy to do as it seems like it
should be. But also, I feel like I've already said
no on this two or three times, and I don't
feel like saying no on Jeremiah Smith that frequently. Is
a very smart idea. And again, could you see him
(20:18):
he could do this by Halloween? Probably right, I mean
you could you could certainly see him doing this. I
wonder if I mean you mentioned the Heisman campaign. I
go back to the nineteen ninety five season, not with
Terry Glenn but with Eddie George, and I remember the
kickoff classicains Boston College. Eddie George finished with ninety nine
(20:39):
yards rushing, and John Cooper later said, well, you know,
if we thought about it, we would have gotten him
a hundred because what does it matter? But it matters. Look, oh,
look look down his list of and you know, oh
he got over one hundred yards against Texas, you know,
or I just held him under one hundred yards or what.
You know that you get that kind of level of needy,
(21:01):
gritty stuff. I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say yes,
he does it because you could you absolutely could see
him doing it. And I think you're gonna have certain
times in the season where they're gonna pay. You're up
seventeen points in the early fourth quarter, let's get that
dagger and while we're at it, maybe we can get
(21:25):
Jeremiah one more touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
How much do you think Brian Hartline is pushing for it? So, hey,
I recruited a Heisman Trophy whin You know?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, yeah, and that's part of it too. Your your
offensive coordinator is a wide receivers coach. Your head coach
who is specializes in the offensive side of the ball
is a quarterback. Yeah, they've got Tyler Browin as the
run game coordinator, but they brought in a run game
coordinator because the two guys who are kind of the
guys who are gonna be most you know, this is
still a Ryan Day offense if it's Brian Hartline calling it,
(21:54):
those guys are both kind of going to lean a
little bit towards the passing side of things. So I
probably should have taken that into account more. You know,
I'm just now thinking that, Brian.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here's the thing though, if Jeremiah Smith has say, three
or four more one hundred yard games than he did
last year, yeah, is not gonna put him like that?
Is that sixteen hundred and six yards sixteen hundred and
seven yards?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know? Yeah, he has depends on how many games
they play.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And the other thing is if he gets more out
of what he did against Penn State in Michigan where
they held him under sixty yards both in Texas, you know,
we know three yards if you if he just has
average games there and then also raises his game a
little sixteen hundred and seven yards, We've gone past that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're not going back, and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I will say I'm gonna say no that he does
not get that way.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Tom. You know, we love to embrace debate. So now
I want you to think about this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The career records at Ohio State for receiving, for receptions, yep,
receiving yards, touchdowns. He is twenty touchdowns away from tying
the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
He is.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
He's not going to get to the receptions, which is
two hundred and five, so he'd need you know, one hundred.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And twenty five or whatever a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
However, Tom, he's fifteen hundred and eighty four yards away
from breaking the all time receiving yardage record.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I feel like if you.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Let Ryan Day and Brian Hartlin know that now or beforehand,
like not, maybe they do, maybe they don't, But boy,
is that not a nice little target to shoot for
two years setting all of the records?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Or does that make the school look bad? But it
only took two years?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. You can go through
the list of wide receivers at Ohio State and there
are a bunch of pretty good names on that list.
So you know this this is not a you know,
the career receiving record at Iowa. Wow, that's wow. I
think everyone is familiar with the wide receivers in Ohio
(24:14):
State history, going back to Chris Carter and all those guys,
Bill and Billy Anders. Yes, I think so. So, you know,
I don't think that devalues it at all. I think
this is not something that I don't think they they
make this the central pillar of the seasons. Get Jeremiah
Smith to break this record this season. I think you're
(24:37):
running into a lot of the same issues. You know, obviously,
because since we're only talking about a thirty yard difference
or whatever it is from the single season record. So
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But you know that's he is, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Receiving yardage total or receiving receptions total, yardage total, touchdowns total,
So one hundred and twenty whatever and fifteen hundred and
whatever and twenty touchdowns. He doesn't break any of them
this year, but he breaks all of them by October
tenth of next season something like that. October twentieth of
(25:14):
next I mean, receptions is probably the last one.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
He's one hundred and thirty away from owning it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So yeah, okay, so he breaks two of those. He
breaks yardage and touchdowns by October fifteenth, twenty twenty six,
and he breaks the receptions total by the end of
the regular season. Of twenty twenty six, so none this year,
but all early to mid next season.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
No, I'm going for it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm going to say he's going to own their career
receiving yardage total after this season.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So your your prediction is that he will have between
fifteen and.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I could get some amazing odds for that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You sure could, and I would go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And there are no prop bets in Ohio, so no
player bets in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So but well, if you really nail that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Weekly podcast brought to you by Wheeling.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Island, So that's all I've got, do you do you
feel bad about being so doubtful of Jeremiah Sis?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So this is thank you to our special guest host,
another Gator. Somehow, I think some of so many of
these records are incredible one off records where if you're
asking me, does he beat whatever the record was before
Jackson's from the Jigba showed up, I think those are
(26:31):
probably a lot of yes. Is he number two in
a lot of these categories by the end of the season.
I think the answer is probably a lot of yes.
Is They're just there are just so many one off
things that had to happen for those things to happen
that he's amazing, but he has a lot of those
things working against him. Where the defense is better, that
(26:51):
the tempo is slower, the you know, the offense is
more diversified. You've got a lot of that stuff working
against you. Where you know, if if saying that he
will not break a bunch of career records before the
end of his second season makes me a hater, then Tony,
I guess I'm a hater. But you know, he will
own every record in the Ohio State record book by
(27:13):
the time he's done.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And if he doesn't own it, it's not worth having.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, it's either he owns it or he's within you know,
he's got three of the top five or something. In
terms of career the single season receiving.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yard age, there are also those like average yards per
catch where you just got these crazy guys that are
like thirty two yards per catch because they had sixteen
catches over the.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Course of their four years.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So if we remove Jackson's git the Jigbut the the
receiving receptions is ninety Paris Cambell in twenty eighteen. But
again that's just you get into the nineties. So I'm
gonna say no, the yardage is fourteen thirty five by
David Boston, which feels there.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Extremely there it yeah, there, I'm probably saying yes, and
then yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then the touchdowns, which we didn't even get into.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
And didn't he break it last year?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, so yeah, I'm I'm he had fifteen last year, yeah,
and dropped the first one. You could have had sixteen
him dropped one. I'm sure throughout the course of the season,
if they would have targeted more, you could find three
more in there, like so seventeen I'm gonna say, yes,
(28:22):
he's gonna get And I don't feel great about saying
I just feel like they're gonna attack with him somehow,
And there's gonna be a couple of three touchdown games,
Like Marvin ed.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I think there's gonna be some chunks in there.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, you're gonna have some three touchdown games, and they
have a couple of three touchdown games. Maybe one of
them is a four touchdown game. And wait, and you
get a bunch of you had a bunch of ones.
You know, well, if you say over under zero point
five touchdowns per game for him, you're gonna feel like
an idiot every time you got. So you figure he's
(28:57):
gonna have at least a touchdown in eight or nine
in regular season games and he has another, you know,
another two in one he's got the one and then
one or two and then he's got it. He's got
a four, so we can know three. There's a three
plus two plus one plus one is seven. So I've
(29:17):
got him to fifteen at the end of the regular season.
Like I mean, yeah, you're probably, I mean you're probably
in there. I'll say yes, just because they're gonna, you know,
they'll play some kind of postseason game, right some kind
so I'll say I'll say at least ties the touchdown
record or in touch single season touchdown.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Terry Glynn did that and I believe eleven games because
he was hurt for he got hurt against Minnesota and
then he missed at least one game. Yeah, ridiculous season
that he had.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Jeremiah Smith is gonna set some records, gonna not set
some others, but will eventually then set those records as
a junior at Ohio State. So I want to thank
you all for tuning in. Hit that thumbs up before
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time to sign up the season so, I don't know
(30:07):
how many days until the season.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't that's not my thing.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Right around the corner, you're ready for it, you can
find us there talking about it at bucke huddle dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Thank you all for tuning in and we will talk
to you guys later
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