December 28, 2025 • 24 mins
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr discuss what will need to happen for Miami to secure a victory over Ohio State in the 2025 Cotton Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom Moore. Tom, how's it going, Tony?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Back in?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, I was gonna say Dallas. We're not technically in Dallas.
The game's not technically in Dallas, but we're you know,
we're in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Fort Worthship.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We're in neither Dallas nor Fort Worth nor will we be.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, we're in Texas, but we're in Texas. So I'm
yeehaw Tony. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I am also yeehaw? Thank you? I am me haw.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Usually you're more he haw am I right?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right? Aymen? I have nothing to add to that
because I grew up watching that. Of course we didn't
other than the city boy over here who looks down
on us country folks, all of us, all of you
please do And I hit thumbs down and combs up
on this video if you're watching right now, also right now,
this very episode, we are discussing a theoretical situation. Basically,
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if Miami wins this game the cotton ball against I se,
how will it have happened? What does Miami need to
do to win? That is this episode, previous episode we
did was about how Ohio State could win. Now, Tom,
we're doing the other side, how Ohio State, how Miami
will win this game if they were to win it,
how will they do it? Tom, you said this is
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gonna be a three minute show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't recall saying those exact words in that exact order. No,
but this is a matchup for Ohio State. That is
you know, we've talked about this in terms of the
NCAA tournament all the time. Where it's you look at
the rankings, You look at the ratings and it's Ohio
States you win this game by ten to fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
But you look at the matchups the individual.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Areas where where is Ohio State vulnerable?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Miami can hit some of those spots, and so that
makes you know, talent wise, Ohio State is a more
talented team than Miami is. But Miami has talents like
elite talent in a few different areas that are well well.
If they were going to win, this is where they
would need to have people. You know, I went and
ranked the likelihood of everyone in the field to in
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terms of like the threat they posed to Ohio State,
and I had met Miami ranked ahead of Georgia, which
is the team that Ohio State could. You know, the
winner of this could potentially end up playing in the
semi finals just because there's stuff that Georgia doesn't do.
Georgia does not have an elite pass rush. Georgia will
give up maybe a few more yards per pass attempt.
You know that you can hit them through the air.
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Miami has been pretty good in terms of pass defense
this year, and they've got some elite, elite pass rushers.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, they did. We've talked whenever we talked about Miami,
we pretty much start with Ruben Bay and a key messador,
and they also have an interior that will get after
the quarterback or just you know, they are quick, they
are strong up front. It's not just the defensive ends,
but those two guys. We saw what happened with a
pass rush giving Ohio State trouble against Indiana, and we've
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talked again about how the two approaches from the Indiana
defensive line on the Miami defensive line are different. One
Indiana stunts and things like that, whereas stunts and twists
and Miami doesn't necessarily do that. Will they maybe that's
something that they add with their defensive tackles, perhaps just
trying to do some things. O Ohistate has a new right
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guard in there, presumably it'll be gave Van Sickle instead
of Tager Shambola, who's out with an injury. So do
they attack the new guy? I would assume they do,
and we'll see how much that impacts the offense as
a whole when you're just constantly just firing at this
new guy, trying to see what he can handle, what
he can't. And now if your center has to worry
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about him, or your right tackle has to worry about him,
now your entire right side of your offensive line is
struggling because of one guy, and everybody's concerned about that.
Sod be interesting to see how much Miami attacks. And
maybe that is if Miami wins this game, there's gonna
be some struggles on the right side of the Ohio
State offensive.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Line well, and you can see some knock on effects
from that as well, where, Yeah, if you lose, if
you're losing at the line of scrimmage, yes, that is
absolutely a way that you know, if Ohio State is
losing at the line of scrimmage, that's the way that
Miami wins this game, But you could also have some
knock on effects from that, where, Okay, who's your best
running back in terms of running the ball, big.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Explosive plays, bo Jackson. Bo Jackson's also a freshman.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You would probably if you're really concerned about pass pro,
you're probably playing CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Donaldson more.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
C J.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Donaldson is more of the short yardage back.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So does that limit you in the run game a
little bit if you feel like you've got to have CJ.
Donaldson in there just for pass pro, because you can't
just put him in and say, well, we're only going
to play him when we're going to throw the ball deep,
because guess what, it probably won't take Miami long to
figure that out. So then you probably have to play
him more, which then you're taking some of your you know,
one of your potentially better or more explosive players off
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the field. And that's also true in terms of the
tight ends. Will cas America is the best blocking tight
end Ohio State has. Bex Player is probably the best
receiving tight end Ohio State has. So are you going
to play twelve personnel and you've got both of those
guys in the field and you're just constantly keeping will
Chasmeric and you can't constantly keep him in and Claire's
not at you know, Claire's certainly improved in his blocking
this year, but he's not as good as Chasmeric. So
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you're going to have to help. You're gonna have to
chip some of those guys. And you know, in terms
of guys on the end of the line, all of
that stuff is it's not stuff that necessarily shows up
on the stat sheet directly in terms of stats, but
it also.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Might show up on the statue.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yes, yeah, Why is the High State only after two
point six yards per carry? Well, let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And so if Miami's winning this game, I don't I
don't think Ohio State is running the ball very well.
If Miami's winning this game. Whereas we saw Miami, we
talked about in the last show, one hundred and seventy
yards rushing for Mark Fletcher, they scored ten points. If
Bo Jackson is rushing for one hundred and seventy yards,
I'm pretty sure High State's gonna have more than ten points.
In school.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Higo State's score probably starts with a three and there
is a second digit after that, right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, so's it's it's very different. But I don't expect
that to happen, And certainly if Miami's going to win,
it's not going to have happened. So they will, they'll
use that entire front seven to stop that run. And
if Miami wins this game, I've been visiting a stat
line from Contay Scott to nickelback of like nine tackles,
two and a half tackles for loss, a sack, a
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forced fumble, just every single statistic, he's got a number
there that isn't zero where it's just he's the player
of the game type of impact from him.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
If you look at the stats from Miami, the key
Messador leading their team in tackles for loss of thirteen
and a half, Ruben Bain third on the team with
eleven and a half. In between those two guys, Conte Scott,
you don't normally see a nickelback having that.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Kind of pressure in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In terms of sacks, Messador eight and a half leading
the team, Baine seven and a half, second on the team,
third on the team, Caionte Scott five sacks. Again, you
don't normally see that this is a guy who is
dangerous because he can.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He can.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He's a little bit of a Caleb Downs.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm not saying he's going to get drafted where Caleb
Downs is going to get drafted, but he can do
so many different things and attack you in ways that
are kind of not traditional. And from what we've seen,
and we've only watched what four games so far this year,
he's been a pretty good tackler in the games that
we've seen. So it's not like, well, I'll just make
him miss and then it's like, no, he doesn't. You
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don't get thirteen tackles for loss as a defensive back
by being a bad tackler.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm just thinking, I don't know how much coverage we've
seen from him against any elite type of receivers in
the slot.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, we've watched them play Notre Dame, no Pit, no,
SMU no, and CA.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Remember you know how we've prefaced every conversation about Miami's
terrible passing game with how wendy it was.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was also wendy when Texas A.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And m Okay, okay, so both both teams had it
with the win.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's that is my understanding of how it worked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yes, yeah, so that will be an interesting test, and Franklin,
that's going to be an interesting test for the entire
Miami secondary, which is why it's so important for the
Miami pass rush to help them out. As Ryan Diaos
talks to his receivers about, you are running your routes
against the pass rush. You're running your routes against the
defensive ends getting after the quarterback. Can you not running
your routes against corners? You're trying to get to your
spot and a timely fashion so that Julian Saying can
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get rid of the ball, and if he can't, then
you know, we've seen the his accuracy has waighed a
little bit with that pressure. And so when that happens,
interceptions can happen. We've seen some l advice throws here
and there, like he's very you don't really worry about him,
but when you see it happen again and again, like
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a couple of straight games where it's like, why is
this interception happening, Like that's a little bit of a concern,
and so I don't think it's I don't think you
can just say, well, probably probinbly not gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't think you can just look at
that and sort of handwave it and say, hey, yeah,
I'm sure it's fine. Speaking of waving hands, this is
this is a Miami team that can get there often
enough that it could really impact. At Miami's fourth in
the nation in Saxburg game at three point one five
Ohio State. This is an area where Miami has a
clear advantage Ohio State about two.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And a half.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Miami over three sacks per game, number four in the
country for Miami, number thirty in the country for Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
If they can get there.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, great, that throws your whole you know, then you're
you're behind the sticks and you're you're you know, and
especially if you're in predictable passing situations of Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You know, a lot of this goes back to kenn
o'high State run the ball and.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Miami is Miami's run defenses. Everybody's good as Ohio State's
run defense.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Expecting Ohio State to be able to run the ball.
So then, you know, does that impact. Ohio State has
been able to sort of do eight yards at a chunk,
ten yards at a chunk through the RPO game well,
if you're not able to run the ball, then maybe
that limits your ability in the RPO game. The limits
your ability with the with the play action passes, all that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then if you're not able to get those eight
yard chunks and you're also able to run the ball,
then you're trying to complete a bunch of intermediate passes
or you're trying to you know, throw some quick tunnel
screens or whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You hope a guy misses, but you've got it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You've got to we hit a couple of those in
order to pick up a first down if you if
you have a sack, and that really kind of puts
you behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, we've they Miami has a deep, a deep secondary.
They'll play a bunch of different guys and they're all decent.
We saw Jacobe Thomas struggle against SMU and safety. That's
not terribly unusual. So that's one where they're all going
to have to have one of their best games in
the secondary and they'll rotate quarters. There can't be any
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weak links. And so I wonder does that mean a
shorter like is it just you're sticking with two guys,
your two best guys.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is the basketball team going from a ten man.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Rotation rotation and just going with the guys that you
trust most. I think that might be the way they go.
But we've seen I mean, they play a true freshman
at safety as well, and he's leading the nation with
six interceptions. So like they have confidence in all of
these guys, So I assume they're going to run with
them and this is going to be the biggest the
biggest test, but they've prepared all year for it. So
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I think this is Miami tom They certainly all have
the confidence needed to compete in this game. And then
if they can just get after Julian say, because to me,
that's that's the entire game right there, because if they can't,
they're not gonna win. If they can, they can absolutely
win this game. So that's why it just keeps going
back to that circle that put a point in it.
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If they can do that now defensively or offensively for Miami,
Carson Beck has seen it all, so I think that
is that is something that's maybe one of those intangible
things where you don't necessarily know how it's going to
play out. But being a six year guy, if he
can just avoid making mistakes. That's how does Miami win.
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Carson Beck avoids making mistakes? Can he avoid making mistakes?
I mean, you know here and there, I mean you can't.
You can't assume that he's going to do it. And
I think you saw with the win against Texas A
and M they kind of took the ball out of
his hands a little bit or just let's let's do
some quicker stuff, some shorter stuff. They didn't want to
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maybe put him in a situation to cost him the game.
Here he's going to be in a position to cost
him the game and some and he's if they win,
it's because he didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, I think again we probably have to start this
conversation with can Miami run the ball? And how well
can Miami run the ball? And I again, I'm not
expecting Ohio State or Miami to be able to run
the ball particularly well. And if both these teams are
running for three and a half yards to carry, give
or take less than four, then you're putting an awful
lot on your quarterback and you're putting an awful lot
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on your wide receivers. And you know, we did a
show earlier about you know which quarterback would you rather
have Julian Sayaner Carson Beck? And you know, I think
that that is one where you could have reasonable people disagree.
I don't think any reasonable people can disagree about the
which wide receiver unit would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Right? You know, I mean, Malachai Tony is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But but Ohio State has two wide receivers that are
better than Malachai Toni and Ohio State has.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Tight ends.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think tight ends are probably a little more dynamic
in the passing game. You know, you've got you have
a lot of small advantages for Ohio State in a
bunch of different sort of spots there. I look at
Carson Beck and think, if Miami needs Carson Beck to
win the game, if Carson Beck is in predictable passing situations,
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can Carson Beck not make the big mistake? Because we've
seen you know, sometimes it's you misread a coverage. Sometimes
it's your true freshman receiver. Like the end of the
SMU game, Carson Beck through an interception and overtime, it
wasn't really on Carson Beck, it's his true freshman wide
receiver didn't flatten at his route and got undercut right
in front of the end zone. So you're gonna have
little mistakes like that from he's a true freshman. He
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should still be in high school right now. Like this
is this is not you know, oh boy, this guy's terrible.
This is this is guy who still should still be
in high school right now. It is phenomenal that he's done,
but he's done, but he should still be in high
school right now. You don't, you don't expect him to
be perfect. And so then can Beck make all the throws?
He's not quite as consistent as Julian saying, Julian saying
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all year long. It feels like we're seeing Julian saying
complete seventy five eighty eighty three percent.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of his passes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Carson Beck is in the sixties a lot. And if
you can't run the ball, and you throw the ball
three times and at least one of them is an incompletion,
and you're seeing balls get tipped at the line and
getting you know, up in the air, that's when you
get interceptions. He just he has to play his best game,
I think, because they don't have wide receivers that are
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just going.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To bail him out there.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
He's going to have to have incredible ball placement, incredible decision.
He's going to you know, he's going to see coverages
that he hasn't necessarily seen before.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
He's seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But Matt Patricia's throwing a lot of stuff at quarterbacks,
and Matt Patricia has also had a month to cook
up a bunch of new stuff, and Matt Patricia has
not had to throw a ton of stuff out there.
And so, you know, can Carson Beck play, you know,
can Carson Beck complete seventy five percent of his passes
and not turn the ball over? Because if he does that,
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you know, that's kind of what Miami needs on the
offensive side of the ball. If they can run the
ball five yards of carry, that's a whole separate conversation.
I just don't think they can do that. So then
it's sort of incumbentent Carson back to make sure they're
capitalizing on opportunities because they're just they're not going to
have six trips to the red zone. So you've got
to when you're down there, if you've got three or
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four trips down there, you've got to make sure you're scoring,
you know, minimally two touchdowns and four trips, probably three
touchdowns and four trips.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's just that's going to be real hard.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I don't see Miami getting to thirty points without defensive
or special teams touchdowns. I think it's going to be
a challenge for mind Me to get much past twenty points.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So then you know, again a.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Lot of this goes back to, Okay, if the offense
can do that, that might be a winning performance in
this game. Then what does the defense do and how
much can the defense get there to limit Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Just look at it at his last five games, He's
been over seventy percent in each each one of those,
including the Texas A and m Twelve touchdowns, one interception
in that span. So he has these good moments, but
even great moments perhaps, but even watching him and he's
the number two guy and accuracy of this season, that
the completions, You get credit for a perfect fail on
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a completion, but when you watch him, it's there's a
lot of low balls and that the receivers have to
go down and get back hip on a match that
they have to go back and get So if Miami's winning,
it's because people are catching the ball at stride and
moving seven yards rather than you know, just two or
because a lot of these screens, it's because you have
to stop and catch the ball and then go and
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the defense can get there. So it's not just going
to take a you know, seventy five percent completion day
from Carson back. It's going to take a seventy five
percent completion day where the passes are at stride. And
that's something that he's not necessarily done as much as
maybe he did in his earlier days at Georgia, where
these passes need to continue to play. They can't just
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you catch it and then you tackle. That's that's great,
that's completion, but it didn't go anywhere. So his completions
need to go somewhere, and if they do, then again
that gives Miami a very good chance at this game.
But you know, overall, you mentioned the red zone. So
on the season, he's seventy four point five percent completion
in the red zone, sixty one percent, and that's not
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atypical because it's much tougher to throw. So fifteen of
his twenty six times downs have been in the red zone.
Two of his ten interceptions have been in the red zone,
and I'm guessing it's you know, pretty similar to Julian saying,
wh's don't at least two interceptions in the red zone.
If not more so, I think it's just him playing
one of his better games and just first do no
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harm yea, even though you're going to have to You're
gonna have to open up somebody's trake with the pen.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, no, he's going to have to.
He can't just sit back and do no hard you know,
yes he does. He does have to not turn them
all over. Very important because of the game. If they
turn the ball over, if Miami's minus two in turnovers,
there's really functionally no way they win this game. If
they're even they have a chance. I still would like
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Ohio State's odds, but you know they have a chance.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But then you, I.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Mean, Carson Bick really has to play a great game.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And you know, we have talked in the past about
throwing guys open, like you have to as a veteran quarterback,
recognize the coverage, diagnose the coverage, and you know, not
just throw to the open guy, but put it on
the right side of the open guy. So the guy's
going now you're not leading him into a defender. You're
getting away from a defender and maybe letting him get
some extra yards because this is an Ohio State defense
that is very very short tacklers. This is an Ohio
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State defense that is very very disciplined on trick plays.
We really have not seen them get got on a
trick play all season. And there's lots of teams that
will try and run versus or you know, double pass
or whatever. They have been very very very disciplined on that,
So you're not necessarily going to get them on that
that you know that that then you know Beck what
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does Beck do? But then also you know, we have
seen Miami scheme up all sorts of crazy stuff from
Malack kay Toni. In the past game in the run game,
he had a you know, a reception that was a
just a kind of a touch pass against taxas A
and m You've got to be you've got to maintain
your you know, maintain your edge, keep your keep your
outside leverage, force the ball back inside. You've got to
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be shore tacklers. You've got to make sure you are
maintaining your eye discipline, all that kind of stuff don't have.
State has been very good at all of that stuff
this year, and you know, we know, we saw them
at practice earlier in the week. They had two different
guys wearing a number ten jersey for the scout team.
You know, so because they had a wide receiver who
is you know, a very very talented true freshman wide
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receiver playing the role of mala Kytoni. But they also
had a quarterback in a number ten Miami jersey playing
the role of Mala kay Tony. Because they know that's
a real possibility. You are going to have to be
aware of everything. He's going to line up a wildcat quarterback,
I'm sure, because they're going to have to.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They're going to have to pull out everything they've got.
You know, I think they pulled a lot a lot of.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What they had against Texas A and M. They're going
to have to reach deeper in the bag and pull
out more what they got because they're going to have
to have you know, Carson Beck's going to have to
have a good game. Malacha Tony is probably going to
have to do, you know, do the Malachay Tony do.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Something cool play.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You're going to have to run that once or twice
successfully in order to you know, hit the big plays.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're going to have to hit a few times.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I think also hitting something off of that where it's
it's not what you think, like you're preparing for the
trick play and it's not and that's the actual trick
and something comes off of that. But yeah, Malack, I
Tony needs to have a good day. I think more
than ten yards of ten yards of catch or just
the the overarching like that wasn't the SNU game? What
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what game was? We had like ten catches, five carries,
two completions.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That was was that pit pit?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, So it's like, well, if it's ten yards of
touch and there's like eighteen touches, yeah, okay, that's yeah,
you're going to take that if you're Miami every day.
And yeah, he has the capability of doing that. So
it is I wonder if there's there's no amount of
touches that they would say, oh, that's too much. Yeah,
because he's gonna be he's gonna be heavily involved in Ohio.
State's gonna have to know where he is and they
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will know where he is on every single snap.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah. It was against Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
He had twelve CA catches, one hundred and forty six
yards twelve yards of catch, had a touchdown through the air,
three rushes for sixteen yards and one of one passing
for fifteen yards against Pitt thirteen catches one hundred and
twenty six yards nine point seven yards per catch, had
a touchdown, also had five carries for thirty yards six
yards to carry, and was one of two for en
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through a touchdown pass through the air. Like you, you
probably need to kind of have those pit numbers where
I think I would be. I would not be surprised
to see them try and get him eighteen nineteen twenty
touches in this game. I don't know that they're going
to be able to think. I think you're gonna see
a lot of targets. I think Ohio State's going to
come up with some creative ways to cover him. And
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you know, you're kind of you're kind of I think
Ohio State has to look at him and go, Okay,
you're not going to beat us, Make someone else beat you.
You know who else you got And you know there
are other players on this Miami offense, but there's not
other guys on the Miami Miami offense that we've seen
them sort of forced feet. Ohio State has ways to
beat you. If Jeremiah Smith not the way the one
beating you can Miami do that.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think if Miami wins, there's more of a downfield
from Malakai Toni as well, where you're taking advantage of
some of the maybe Ohio State's flaws that we've seen
over the course of the season. When teams have scored
against Ohio State, a lot of times it's or it's
the slot, it's Ohio getting a long touchdown out of
the slot. So there's been an avenue there four teams
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to attack and it's not been easy, but nothing against
this Ohio State defense has been easy. And even if
you do have a successful play, well now you've got
seven points, you still need fourteen more, seventeen more, twenty
four more to win the game. So I think seeing
Malick I Tony just don't don't just use in behind
the line of scrimmage, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
If you're Miami, so yeah, yeah, you've got it, You're
going to have to stretch the field vertically because if
you're just constantly trying to dink and dunk and throw
those short to intermediate passes, Ohio it will sit on
that and you're going to have to get out of
your comfort range a little bit. We've seen Keill and
Mary and do it. We've seen CJ. Daniels do it.
Can they do it consistently? Because hitting the one pass
downfield is great, you got to probably do it a
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couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Ye, So that will do it. That will do it
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Speaker 2 (24:25):
M HM.
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom Moore. Tom, how's it going, Tony?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Back in?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, I was gonna say Dallas. We're not technically in Dallas.
The game's not technically in Dallas, but we're you know,
we're in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Fort Worthship.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We're in neither Dallas nor Fort Worth nor will we be.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, we're in Texas, but we're in Texas. So I'm
yeehaw Tony. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I am also yeehaw? Thank you? I am me haw.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Usually you're more he haw am I right?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right? Aymen? I have nothing to add to that
because I grew up watching that. Of course we didn't
other than the city boy over here who looks down
on us country folks, all of us, all of you
please do And I hit thumbs down and combs up
on this video if you're watching right now, also right now,
this very episode, we are discussing a theoretical situation. Basically,
(00:57):
if Miami wins this game the cotton ball against I se,
how will it have happened? What does Miami need to
do to win? That is this episode, previous episode we
did was about how Ohio State could win. Now, Tom,
we're doing the other side, how Ohio State, how Miami
will win this game if they were to win it,
how will they do it? Tom, you said this is
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gonna be a three minute show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't recall saying those exact words in that exact order. No,
but this is a matchup for Ohio State. That is
you know, we've talked about this in terms of the
NCAA tournament all the time. Where it's you look at
the rankings, You look at the ratings and it's Ohio
States you win this game by ten to fourteen points.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
But you look at the matchups the individual.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Areas where where is Ohio State vulnerable?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Miami can hit some of those spots, and so that
makes you know, talent wise, Ohio State is a more
talented team than Miami is. But Miami has talents like
elite talent in a few different areas that are well well.
If they were going to win, this is where they
would need to have people. You know, I went and
ranked the likelihood of everyone in the field to in
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terms of like the threat they posed to Ohio State,
and I had met Miami ranked ahead of Georgia, which
is the team that Ohio State could. You know, the
winner of this could potentially end up playing in the
semi finals just because there's stuff that Georgia doesn't do.
Georgia does not have an elite pass rush. Georgia will
give up maybe a few more yards per pass attempt.
You know that you can hit them through the air.
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Miami has been pretty good in terms of pass defense
this year, and they've got some elite, elite pass rushers.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, they did. We've talked whenever we talked about Miami,
we pretty much start with Ruben Bay and a key messador,
and they also have an interior that will get after
the quarterback or just you know, they are quick, they
are strong up front. It's not just the defensive ends,
but those two guys. We saw what happened with a
pass rush giving Ohio State trouble against Indiana, and we've
(02:58):
talked again about how the two approaches from the Indiana
defensive line on the Miami defensive line are different. One
Indiana stunts and things like that, whereas stunts and twists
and Miami doesn't necessarily do that. Will they maybe that's
something that they add with their defensive tackles, perhaps just
trying to do some things. O Ohistate has a new right
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guard in there, presumably it'll be gave Van Sickle instead
of Tager Shambola, who's out with an injury. So do
they attack the new guy? I would assume they do,
and we'll see how much that impacts the offense as
a whole when you're just constantly just firing at this
new guy, trying to see what he can handle, what
he can't. And now if your center has to worry
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about him, or your right tackle has to worry about him,
now your entire right side of your offensive line is
struggling because of one guy, and everybody's concerned about that.
Sod be interesting to see how much Miami attacks. And
maybe that is if Miami wins this game, there's gonna
be some struggles on the right side of the Ohio
State offensive.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Line well, and you can see some knock on effects
from that as well, where, Yeah, if you lose, if
you're losing at the line of scrimmage, yes, that is
absolutely a way that you know, if Ohio State is
losing at the line of scrimmage, that's the way that
Miami wins this game, But you could also have some
knock on effects from that, where, Okay, who's your best
running back in terms of running the ball, big.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Explosive plays, bo Jackson. Bo Jackson's also a freshman.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You would probably if you're really concerned about pass pro,
you're probably playing CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Donaldson more.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
C J.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Donaldson is more of the short yardage back.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So does that limit you in the run game a
little bit if you feel like you've got to have CJ.
Donaldson in there just for pass pro, because you can't
just put him in and say, well, we're only going
to play him when we're going to throw the ball deep,
because guess what, it probably won't take Miami long to
figure that out. So then you probably have to play
him more, which then you're taking some of your you know,
one of your potentially better or more explosive players off
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the field. And that's also true in terms of the
tight ends. Will cas America is the best blocking tight
end Ohio State has. Bex Player is probably the best
receiving tight end Ohio State has. So are you going
to play twelve personnel and you've got both of those
guys in the field and you're just constantly keeping will
Chasmeric and you can't constantly keep him in and Claire's
not at you know, Claire's certainly improved in his blocking
this year, but he's not as good as Chasmeric. So
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you're going to have to help. You're gonna have to
chip some of those guys. And you know, in terms
of guys on the end of the line, all of
that stuff is it's not stuff that necessarily shows up
on the stat sheet directly in terms of stats, but
it also.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Might show up on the statue.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yes, yeah, Why is the High State only after two
point six yards per carry? Well, let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And so if Miami's winning this game, I don't I
don't think Ohio State is running the ball very well.
If Miami's winning this game. Whereas we saw Miami, we
talked about in the last show, one hundred and seventy
yards rushing for Mark Fletcher, they scored ten points. If
Bo Jackson is rushing for one hundred and seventy yards,
I'm pretty sure High State's gonna have more than ten points.
In school.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Higo State's score probably starts with a three and there
is a second digit after that, right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, so's it's it's very different. But I don't expect
that to happen, And certainly if Miami's going to win,
it's not going to have happened. So they will, they'll
use that entire front seven to stop that run. And
if Miami wins this game, I've been visiting a stat
line from Contay Scott to nickelback of like nine tackles,
two and a half tackles for loss, a sack, a
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forced fumble, just every single statistic, he's got a number
there that isn't zero where it's just he's the player
of the game type of impact from him.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
If you look at the stats from Miami, the key
Messador leading their team in tackles for loss of thirteen
and a half, Ruben Bain third on the team with
eleven and a half. In between those two guys, Conte Scott,
you don't normally see a nickelback having that.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Kind of pressure in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
In terms of sacks, Messador eight and a half leading
the team, Baine seven and a half, second on the team,
third on the team, Caionte Scott five sacks. Again, you
don't normally see that this is a guy who is
dangerous because he can.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He can.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He's a little bit of a Caleb Downs.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm not saying he's going to get drafted where Caleb
Downs is going to get drafted, but he can do
so many different things and attack you in ways that
are kind of not traditional. And from what we've seen,
and we've only watched what four games so far this year,
he's been a pretty good tackler in the games that
we've seen. So it's not like, well, I'll just make
him miss and then it's like, no, he doesn't. You
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don't get thirteen tackles for loss as a defensive back
by being a bad tackler.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm just thinking, I don't know how much coverage we've
seen from him against any elite type of receivers in
the slot.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, we've watched them play Notre Dame, no Pit, no,
SMU no, and CA.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Remember you know how we've prefaced every conversation about Miami's
terrible passing game with how wendy it was.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was also wendy when Texas A.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And m Okay, okay, so both both teams had it
with the win.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's that is my understanding of how it worked.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yes, yeah, so that will be an interesting test, and Franklin,
that's going to be an interesting test for the entire
Miami secondary, which is why it's so important for the
Miami pass rush to help them out. As Ryan Diaos
talks to his receivers about, you are running your routes
against the pass rush. You're running your routes against the
defensive ends getting after the quarterback. Can you not running
your routes against corners? You're trying to get to your
spot and a timely fashion so that Julian Saying can
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get rid of the ball, and if he can't, then
you know, we've seen the his accuracy has waighed a
little bit with that pressure. And so when that happens,
interceptions can happen. We've seen some l advice throws here
and there, like he's very you don't really worry about him,
but when you see it happen again and again, like
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a couple of straight games where it's like, why is
this interception happening, Like that's a little bit of a concern,
and so I don't think it's I don't think you
can just say, well, probably probinbly not gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't think you can just look at
that and sort of handwave it and say, hey, yeah,
I'm sure it's fine. Speaking of waving hands, this is
this is a Miami team that can get there often
enough that it could really impact. At Miami's fourth in
the nation in Saxburg game at three point one five
Ohio State. This is an area where Miami has a
clear advantage Ohio State about two.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And a half.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Miami over three sacks per game, number four in the
country for Miami, number thirty in the country for Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
If they can get there.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, great, that throws your whole you know, then you're
you're behind the sticks and you're you're you know, and
especially if you're in predictable passing situations of Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You know, a lot of this goes back to kenn
o'high State run the ball and.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Miami is Miami's run defenses. Everybody's good as Ohio State's
run defense.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Expecting Ohio State to be able to run the ball.
So then, you know, does that impact. Ohio State has
been able to sort of do eight yards at a chunk,
ten yards at a chunk through the RPO game well,
if you're not able to run the ball, then maybe
that limits your ability in the RPO game. The limits
your ability with the with the play action passes, all that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then if you're not able to get those eight
yard chunks and you're also able to run the ball,
then you're trying to complete a bunch of intermediate passes
or you're trying to you know, throw some quick tunnel
screens or whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You hope a guy misses, but you've got it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You've got to we hit a couple of those in
order to pick up a first down if you if
you have a sack, and that really kind of puts
you behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, we've they Miami has a deep, a deep secondary.
They'll play a bunch of different guys and they're all decent.
We saw Jacobe Thomas struggle against SMU and safety. That's
not terribly unusual. So that's one where they're all going
to have to have one of their best games in
the secondary and they'll rotate quarters. There can't be any
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weak links. And so I wonder does that mean a
shorter like is it just you're sticking with two guys,
your two best guys.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Is the basketball team going from a ten man.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Rotation rotation and just going with the guys that you
trust most. I think that might be the way they go.
But we've seen I mean, they play a true freshman
at safety as well, and he's leading the nation with
six interceptions. So like they have confidence in all of
these guys, So I assume they're going to run with
them and this is going to be the biggest the
biggest test, but they've prepared all year for it. So
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I think this is Miami tom They certainly all have
the confidence needed to compete in this game. And then
if they can just get after Julian say, because to me,
that's that's the entire game right there, because if they can't,
they're not gonna win. If they can, they can absolutely
win this game. So that's why it just keeps going
back to that circle that put a point in it.
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If they can do that now defensively or offensively for Miami,
Carson Beck has seen it all, so I think that
is that is something that's maybe one of those intangible
things where you don't necessarily know how it's going to
play out. But being a six year guy, if he
can just avoid making mistakes. That's how does Miami win.
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Carson Beck avoids making mistakes? Can he avoid making mistakes?
I mean, you know here and there, I mean you can't.
You can't assume that he's going to do it. And
I think you saw with the win against Texas A
and M they kind of took the ball out of
his hands a little bit or just let's let's do
some quicker stuff, some shorter stuff. They didn't want to
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maybe put him in a situation to cost him the game.
Here he's going to be in a position to cost
him the game and some and he's if they win,
it's because he didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, I think again we probably have to start this
conversation with can Miami run the ball? And how well
can Miami run the ball? And I again, I'm not
expecting Ohio State or Miami to be able to run
the ball particularly well. And if both these teams are
running for three and a half yards to carry, give
or take less than four, then you're putting an awful
lot on your quarterback and you're putting an awful lot
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on your wide receivers. And you know, we did a
show earlier about you know which quarterback would you rather
have Julian Sayaner Carson Beck? And you know, I think
that that is one where you could have reasonable people disagree.
I don't think any reasonable people can disagree about the
which wide receiver unit would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Right? You know, I mean, Malachai Tony is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But but Ohio State has two wide receivers that are
better than Malachai Toni and Ohio State has.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Tight ends.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think tight ends are probably a little more dynamic
in the passing game. You know, you've got you have
a lot of small advantages for Ohio State in a
bunch of different sort of spots there. I look at
Carson Beck and think, if Miami needs Carson Beck to
win the game, if Carson Beck is in predictable passing situations,
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can Carson Beck not make the big mistake? Because we've
seen you know, sometimes it's you misread a coverage. Sometimes
it's your true freshman receiver. Like the end of the
SMU game, Carson Beck through an interception and overtime, it
wasn't really on Carson Beck, it's his true freshman wide
receiver didn't flatten at his route and got undercut right
in front of the end zone. So you're gonna have
little mistakes like that from he's a true freshman. He
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should still be in high school right now. Like this
is this is not you know, oh boy, this guy's terrible.
This is this is guy who still should still be
in high school right now. It is phenomenal that he's done,
but he's done, but he should still be in high
school right now. You don't, you don't expect him to
be perfect. And so then can Beck make all the throws?
He's not quite as consistent as Julian saying, Julian saying
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all year long. It feels like we're seeing Julian saying
complete seventy five eighty eighty three percent.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of his passes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Carson Beck is in the sixties a lot. And if
you can't run the ball, and you throw the ball
three times and at least one of them is an incompletion,
and you're seeing balls get tipped at the line and
getting you know, up in the air, that's when you
get interceptions. He just he has to play his best game,
I think, because they don't have wide receivers that are
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just going.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
To bail him out there.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
He's going to have to have incredible ball placement, incredible decision.
He's going to you know, he's going to see coverages
that he hasn't necessarily seen before.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
He's seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But Matt Patricia's throwing a lot of stuff at quarterbacks,
and Matt Patricia has also had a month to cook
up a bunch of new stuff, and Matt Patricia has
not had to throw a ton of stuff out there.
And so, you know, can Carson Beck play, you know,
can Carson Beck complete seventy five percent of his passes
and not turn the ball over? Because if he does that,
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you know, that's kind of what Miami needs on the
offensive side of the ball. If they can run the
ball five yards of carry, that's a whole separate conversation.
I just don't think they can do that. So then
it's sort of incumbentent Carson back to make sure they're
capitalizing on opportunities because they're just they're not going to
have six trips to the red zone. So you've got
to when you're down there, if you've got three or
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four trips down there, you've got to make sure you're scoring,
you know, minimally two touchdowns and four trips, probably three
touchdowns and four trips.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's just that's going to be real hard.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I don't see Miami getting to thirty points without defensive
or special teams touchdowns. I think it's going to be
a challenge for mind Me to get much past twenty points.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So then you know, again a.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Lot of this goes back to, Okay, if the offense
can do that, that might be a winning performance in
this game. Then what does the defense do and how
much can the defense get there to limit Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Just look at it at his last five games, He's
been over seventy percent in each each one of those,
including the Texas A and m Twelve touchdowns, one interception
in that span. So he has these good moments, but
even great moments perhaps, but even watching him and he's
the number two guy and accuracy of this season, that
the completions, You get credit for a perfect fail on
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a completion, but when you watch him, it's there's a
lot of low balls and that the receivers have to
go down and get back hip on a match that
they have to go back and get So if Miami's winning,
it's because people are catching the ball at stride and
moving seven yards rather than you know, just two or
because a lot of these screens, it's because you have
to stop and catch the ball and then go and
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the defense can get there. So it's not just going
to take a you know, seventy five percent completion day
from Carson back. It's going to take a seventy five
percent completion day where the passes are at stride. And
that's something that he's not necessarily done as much as
maybe he did in his earlier days at Georgia, where
these passes need to continue to play. They can't just
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you catch it and then you tackle. That's that's great,
that's completion, but it didn't go anywhere. So his completions
need to go somewhere, and if they do, then again
that gives Miami a very good chance at this game.
But you know, overall, you mentioned the red zone. So
on the season, he's seventy four point five percent completion
in the red zone, sixty one percent, and that's not
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atypical because it's much tougher to throw. So fifteen of
his twenty six times downs have been in the red zone.
Two of his ten interceptions have been in the red zone,
and I'm guessing it's you know, pretty similar to Julian saying,
wh's don't at least two interceptions in the red zone.
If not more so, I think it's just him playing
one of his better games and just first do no
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harm yea, even though you're going to have to You're
gonna have to open up somebody's trake with the pen.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, no, he's going to have to.
He can't just sit back and do no hard you know,
yes he does. He does have to not turn them
all over. Very important because of the game. If they
turn the ball over, if Miami's minus two in turnovers,
there's really functionally no way they win this game. If
they're even they have a chance. I still would like
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Ohio State's odds, but you know they have a chance.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But then you, I.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Mean, Carson Bick really has to play a great game.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And you know, we have talked in the past about
throwing guys open, like you have to as a veteran quarterback,
recognize the coverage, diagnose the coverage, and you know, not
just throw to the open guy, but put it on
the right side of the open guy. So the guy's
going now you're not leading him into a defender. You're
getting away from a defender and maybe letting him get
some extra yards because this is an Ohio State defense
that is very very short tacklers. This is an Ohio
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State defense that is very very disciplined on trick plays.
We really have not seen them get got on a
trick play all season. And there's lots of teams that
will try and run versus or you know, double pass
or whatever. They have been very very very disciplined on that,
So you're not necessarily going to get them on that
that you know that that then you know Beck what
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does Beck do? But then also you know, we have
seen Miami scheme up all sorts of crazy stuff from
Malack kay Toni. In the past game in the run game,
he had a you know, a reception that was a
just a kind of a touch pass against taxas A
and m You've got to be you've got to maintain
your you know, maintain your edge, keep your keep your
outside leverage, force the ball back inside. You've got to
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be shore tacklers. You've got to make sure you are
maintaining your eye discipline, all that kind of stuff don't have.
State has been very good at all of that stuff
this year, and you know, we know, we saw them
at practice earlier in the week. They had two different
guys wearing a number ten jersey for the scout team.
You know, so because they had a wide receiver who
is you know, a very very talented true freshman wide
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receiver playing the role of mala Kytoni. But they also
had a quarterback in a number ten Miami jersey playing
the role of Mala kay Tony. Because they know that's
a real possibility. You are going to have to be
aware of everything. He's going to line up a wildcat quarterback,
I'm sure, because they're going to have to.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They're going to have to pull out everything they've got.
You know, I think they pulled a lot a lot of.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What they had against Texas A and M. They're going
to have to reach deeper in the bag and pull
out more what they got because they're going to have
to have you know, Carson Beck's going to have to
have a good game. Malacha Tony is probably going to
have to do, you know, do the Malachay Tony do.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Something cool play.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You're going to have to run that once or twice
successfully in order to you know, hit the big plays.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're going to have to hit a few times.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I think also hitting something off of that where it's
it's not what you think, like you're preparing for the
trick play and it's not and that's the actual trick
and something comes off of that. But yeah, Malack, I
Tony needs to have a good day. I think more
than ten yards of ten yards of catch or just
the the overarching like that wasn't the SNU game? What
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what game was? We had like ten catches, five carries,
two completions.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That was was that pit pit?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, So it's like, well, if it's ten yards of
touch and there's like eighteen touches, yeah, okay, that's yeah,
you're going to take that if you're Miami every day.
And yeah, he has the capability of doing that. So
it is I wonder if there's there's no amount of
touches that they would say, oh, that's too much. Yeah,
because he's gonna be he's gonna be heavily involved in Ohio.
State's gonna have to know where he is and they
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will know where he is on every single snap.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah. It was against Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
He had twelve CA catches, one hundred and forty six
yards twelve yards of catch, had a touchdown through the air,
three rushes for sixteen yards and one of one passing
for fifteen yards against Pitt thirteen catches one hundred and
twenty six yards nine point seven yards per catch, had
a touchdown, also had five carries for thirty yards six
yards to carry, and was one of two for en
(21:40):
through a touchdown pass through the air. Like you, you
probably need to kind of have those pit numbers where
I think I would be. I would not be surprised
to see them try and get him eighteen nineteen twenty
touches in this game. I don't know that they're going
to be able to think. I think you're gonna see
a lot of targets. I think Ohio State's going to
come up with some creative ways to cover him. And
(22:00):
you know, you're kind of you're kind of I think
Ohio State has to look at him and go, Okay,
you're not going to beat us, Make someone else beat you.
You know who else you got And you know there
are other players on this Miami offense, but there's not
other guys on the Miami Miami offense that we've seen
them sort of forced feet. Ohio State has ways to
beat you. If Jeremiah Smith not the way the one
beating you can Miami do that.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think if Miami wins, there's more of a downfield
from Malakai Toni as well, where you're taking advantage of
some of the maybe Ohio State's flaws that we've seen
over the course of the season. When teams have scored
against Ohio State, a lot of times it's or it's
the slot, it's Ohio getting a long touchdown out of
the slot. So there's been an avenue there four teams
(22:45):
to attack and it's not been easy, but nothing against
this Ohio State defense has been easy. And even if
you do have a successful play, well now you've got
seven points, you still need fourteen more, seventeen more, twenty
four more to win the game. So I think seeing
Malick I Tony just don't don't just use in behind
the line of scrimmage, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
If you're Miami, so yeah, yeah, you've got it, You're
going to have to stretch the field vertically because if
you're just constantly trying to dink and dunk and throw
those short to intermediate passes, Ohio it will sit on
that and you're going to have to get out of
your comfort range a little bit. We've seen Keill and
Mary and do it. We've seen CJ. Daniels do it.
Can they do it consistently? Because hitting the one pass
downfield is great, you got to probably do it a
(23:25):
couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Ye, So that will do it. That will do it
all right? If you're watching going into thumbs up, we'd
appreciate that. There you go, Miami fans, how Miami will
win and they said it couldn't be done, but we've
done it. If you go those comments in there, we
will take a look at those and maybe do We're
gonna do a show Miss Miami listener questions, viewer questions
(23:46):
to see what they want to know and what they
think and it may make fair an interesting show. So
we will do that. And of course you can continue
to find us at buckeyehuddle dot com sign up say
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by Jeffreyby's Columbus and that will do it from here.
Thank you all for tuning again, and we'll talk to
you all later.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
M HM.
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