December 20, 2025 • 52 mins
In this live episode of the Buckeye Weeklyi Podcast, hosts Tom Orr and Tony Gerdeman give their instant reactions to Miami's 10-3 win over Texas A&M and what it means for the Buckeyes. They also get to interact with the many Miami fans in the live chat.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom get ready
to learn Miami, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Boy, of all the football games I've watched, and boy,
howdy have I watched a bunch of football games, that
was certainly one of them, Tony, it is uh man,
I literally don't know where to start with that, but yeah, yeah,
(00:36):
should we start with the quality depth of the SEC
and how it's unparalleled in any other conference because no
team Tony had ever lost a home football game in
the College Football Playoff, Now two teams have. For both
of them, it just meant more.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It always means more for the SEC, and unfortunately today
they've fell just short by by you know, a little
bit by a score to Miami. And we went into
this game saying, whichever quarterback makes the fewest mistakes, that
team was going to win. And I think that held
true here for Miami and and did not hold true
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for Texas A and m as Marcel Reet throws the
interception on the final play there, which is I think
that entire final drive and capsulates what you would have
gotten from Texas A and m where they can he
can move march you right down, but then there's always
the possibility of there's going to be an interception there
and instead Carson back in the Miami offense. Some bizarre
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play calling, but relatively I guess, composed and not super aggressive.
Fourteen of twenty fo one hundred and three yards passing,
one touchdown. The one touchdown was a little jet jet
sweeps Malakaye Tony to give them the lead late in
the fourth quarter. Malachae Toni, the star freshman receiver, five catches,
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two yards, one touchdown, six targets. To give you an
idea of how he was used and then how he
is using the first half three three catches and negative
one yards with the long of one yard.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that was that was incredible. How Texas A and
M shut him down. That was because he was you know,
the last game we watched was the pit game, and
he was. They built the whole plane out of Malachay
Toni in that game and this one he really did
almost nothing. He had the touchdown, he did have the
only touchdown of the game, which you know, to his credit,
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he had the only touchdown of the game. But you know,
twenty two yards receiving and nine yards rushing and one
incomplete pass, And yeah, it was I think the thing
that I was most surprised about was how well Miami
ran the ball, because Miami did not run the ball
really particularly well all season. And Mark Fletcher in this
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game had seventeen carries one hundred and seventy two yards
long of fifty six average ten point one. And you know,
sometimes you'll have the one big run that sort of
skews it for you, but seven ten, seventeen, three, one
three one, twenty four, thirteen one three, sixteen fifty six
two twelve three two. But I mean there's a lot
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of sort of you know, you're not staying on schedule,
but you're not losing yards. There's not a lot of
zeros and ones in there, and he also had a
couple big ones. But just the fact that they were
able to run the ball for fifteen or so yards
per carry, was that was fifteen or so yards per
at a pop, you know, as consistently as he did,
was a little surprising to me. And now I can
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hear everyone saying, how is Texas A and M in
terms of run defense? Well, friends, there's a reason Texas
A and M was lower on my list in terms
of most dangerous opponents for Ohio State than Miami because
Texas A and M's run defense suh ditdley ucks fifty
seventh in the nation and yards per rush all out,
so whereas Ohio State on that list better than that
they are well, I don't have it in front of
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me here, but they were I think top five, top ten,
So I would not expect Mark Fletcher to run for
ten yards per carry against the Buckeyes and the Cotton Bowl.
We should get to a couple. We have a bunch
of super chat stacking up already. We'll get to these
and then if you want to throw them more in,
if you want to get your question answered right now,
throw in a super chat from Mike Farino. Does Miami
get into the red zone against Ohio State without turnovers?
(04:23):
One piece of this that I think is worth noting.
My brother was at this game, so I was sort
of getting Okay, they're talking about it being windy. How
windy is it really? And he said the way he
described it, and boy, howdy, get ready to text us, y'all.
He said, people's cowboy hats were blowing off their heads,
so it was pretty windy. You know, not consistently like
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a Gaye Force win like the Northwestern game a couple
of years ago for Ohio State, but it was windy
enough that that was undoubtedly affecting some of the passes.
Because neither of those team, no, neither of those quarterbacks
have like incredible arms by any means, like Marcel Reid.
That was going to impact Marcel Read's ability to drive
the ball down the field. That if Marcel Reid couldn't
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drive the ball down the field, that took away one
of the areas that I think we looked at and
thought EXAs Texas a and might be able to take
advantage of that. So, you know, as far as the
Miami offense, Tony, my expectation is, yes, they get into
the red zone against Ohio State without turnovers. I'm not
sure even on a indoor, fast dry track. I walked
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me through the scenario where Miami scores twenty points on
the Ohio State defense.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And we saw Miami's offensive line look human this in
this game as well, which I thought was one of
their strengths and their pass protection, and yet they weren't.
Carsten Beck didn't have a lot of time to throw,
which is why they threw so many quick stuff, you know,
quick passes and things of that nature. I would also
say Malca Toni at the fifty five yard punt return,
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so there's a possibility that they could punt return themselves
into the red zone as well. But sustained drives. The
last two games before this, Mark Fletcher I think had
sixteen carries for forty nine yards total against Syracusan pitt So,
which is the real mark Mark Fletcher where you've got
the standard. This was his fourth one hundred yard game,
but this is by far the best he had looked
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over the course of the game. And then inexplicably, they'd run,
He'd run well, and it's like, okay, now it's time
to start throwing the ball again, and it's like, what
if you just stick with the running game? And then
they finally did on that last drive, and lo and
behold they finally scored a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, that was I think Shannon Dawson is not going
to enjoy watching that Gant game film for several reasons.
I mean, the offense obviously looked like what the offense
looked like, but man, it was just I saw Bill
landis our buddy Bill Landis say it reminded him of
like when Ohio State came into games ten years ago
and we're like, well, we got it. Here's the number
of touches we got to get each of these guys,
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and it's like that does not lend itself to a
coherent game plan, and it just it felt like, well
we gotta you know, we gotta get Malachai Tony Gunning
and we got it. And it's like if they are
shutting it, if they're taking what, you gotta go do
something else. And you know, I think Ohio State has
done a pretty good job of that, where when teams
have said we're going to take Jeremiah Smith away, Ohio
State has been perfectly willing to sort of shrug their
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shoulders and go okay and go beat you a different way.
It felt like Shannon Dawson is really kind of, you know,
really wanted to get certain guys touches and really wanted
to try and do it. You know, oh boy, we're
gonna we're gonna catch him with this one. And it
was like the Texas A and and defense was pretty disciplined.
You know, they didn't they got beat at times, but
it wasn't like, oh boy, they really blew an assignment here.
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It was they had guys in position, which at that point,
you know, then that's when you probably don't need to
go run the reverse or the throwback or the like that.
That's not working, so then stick with you know, stick
with the outside zone. That seemed like it was working
just fine for Miami for decent chunks of the game,
and then they'd get away from it and do something else,
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and all of a sudden they'd be punting.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Almost three plays seventy five yards touchdown fifty nine seconds
on their first drive of the game against Tulane. Uh
the Yeah, the best post of the day on our
message board was that from I think RC three Miller
saying that it looked like both Andy Cotle Nicky was
calling place for both both teams in this one. Just
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some unnecessary stuff where you've got what four offensive linemen
lined out wide on one and then they do something
with Malaca Toni for like two yards or whatever. It's like,
you can just play football, like football is meant to
be difficult, but you don't have to make it even
more difficult by what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, it was. It was sort of unnecessarily complicated. I
also name checked Andy cotal Nicky at one point and
said that Shandon Dawson's offense looked like you could tell
he had come from both the Andy kotal Niki.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And uh uh what did I say?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It doesn't matter? The Rube Goldberg coaching trees like that
was that was the like just what are we doing?
Like just but it wasn't like other stuff was working,
but it wasn't working insistently. But they didn't let it
work consistently. So I don't know how much to know.
And for all that we heard from Miami fans about
(09:08):
what idiots we were about the fact that, oh boy,
the wide receivers they have Tony, they have more than
one wide receiver. It's not just Malachai Tony. They have
man o man do they have wide receivers? And CJ.
Daniels had two catches for twenty nine yards and Keel
and Marion had three catches for thirty three yards and
that was on a combined nine targets. They had five
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catches for sixty two yards, so a little under seven
yards per target there for the other two wide receivers
for Miami. So yes, regular you know we can go
back and watch some other games earlier in the season,
but my opinion on the Miami wide receiving corps did
not materially change in this one supertech from Mike farinosas
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A and M's offense look like an offense who had
an offensive coordinator that was worried about his next team.
Miami look at a team that was prepared by Mario Christobal.
I do the Colin Kline thing with with A and
M is a fair point because he is obviously going
and taking the Kansas State job, which the obvious comparison
as well. Ob Ohio State's offensive coordinator Brian Hartline is
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leaving to take the USF job, So are they going
to run into some of the same issues. I think
the difference there as Mike Elko is a defensive guy
as the head coach and Ryan Day is an offensive
guy as the head coach. So if Brian Hartline is
distracted or Brian Hartline has not had his nose in
his textbook for the last three weeks, that's okay because
Ohio State has Ryan Day, who can you know, has
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had plenty of extra time, and we'll probably have a
little bit more say in this game plan, and you know,
we'll see what the what the official plan is when
we get to talk to them on Monday in terms
of the you know, the plan for the Cotton Bowl
and how they'll handle the play calling and all that
kind of stuff. But yeah, I if it was if
this was Matt Patricia leaving to take another job, I
(10:57):
think that would be more of a concern for me
from the Ohios date perspective than Brian Hartline.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I like that you think that we're going to get
the final answer on how things are going to go
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, we're going to ask. We certainly will ask, and
then we'll see how it goes well. More super chat.
I think Texas also had one of the best run
games of the season against A and M. Yeah, Texas
A and M was not an impressive team in terms
of yards per carry allowed this year. They just they
the defense was a much better pass rushing defensive front
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than it was the A run stopping defensive front. Just
to put this in perspective, Texas A and M was
fifty eighth in the country four yards per carry Ohio
State this year two point eight three yards per carry,
fifth in the nation, So you know, I think the
sledding is going to get a little tougher for Mark
Fletcher in the Miami run game in Arlington.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, And to Mike's point, on the Texas A and
M defense gave up two hundred and eighteen yards to
Texas six point two yards per carry, gave up two
hundred and seven to Missouri six point one per Carrie,
gave up two sixty eight to Arkansas eight point four
per Kerry. That is not going to be the situation
in Ohio State runs into against a Miami defense that
now it's we saw, Well, we'll see what happens with
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Mama Torre, who gotten really dinged up, and hopefully he'll
be I'll have enough time to get out of a
concussion protocol after that hit that basically saved the game
there at the goal line. And this was we talked
when we watched the Miami pit game about how, you know,
none of the linebackers really stood out, but I thought
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he was a standout in this game, finished with eight
tackles and that pass break up at the end. And
we also didn't I don't believe we saw Canta Scott
against Pitt and he's their Nickel, and he had two sacks,
three tackles for lost, ten tackles. He was everywhere. So
that was a couple of impact guys that didn't necessarily
stand out prior, and certainly guys that we're going to
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as we watch more Miami football, we will see, uh,
we'll see other guys step up as well. The safety
Poyser left, I don't know if he ever came back,
and so there's a little some guys getting banged up
in there. But the good news is you have more
than the standard amount of time to get healthy. The
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game is eleven days a way time. You're the countdown guy,
I am not. Is that correct? The thirty first from now? Tom?
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yes, it's the twentieth, So it's eleven days, eleven days
and a little under four hours right from right now. Well,
actually probably about four hours because they listed as a
seven thirty kickoff, which means football actually meet ball at
about seven fifty or so. So yeah, we're we're about
eleven days and four hours away from that one, and yeah,
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it should be a good one. I'm really interested in
how different this Miami offense looks against a better defense,
because the Texas A and M defense. Okay, they were
not incredible. I mean just yards per play sp plus
whatever metric you want to use. Ohio State was better
than A and M. SP plus had them as the
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twenty first best defense, twenty fifty seventh in yards per
rush allowed nineteenth yards per pass allowed. Like they're all
they're kind of like somewhere between fine and not bad.
But it's it's going to be a different thing for
when they're playing Ohio State. What's going to be maybe
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more more interesting is Okay, what does it look like
when it's not really windy, Because I do think that
impacted the passing game to a certain degree for sure,
And you know, we can certainly get into the we
should also get into the Miami defense at some point,
which I'm sure we will, But you know, I think
there's a reason that we both picked Miami to win
that game, and there's a reason we both thought Miami
was going to be a better matchup in terms of
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being able to provide you have a better chance to
beat Ohio State than Texas A and M did. And
I still think a lot of that whole I think
we saw a lot of a lot of that from
the Miami defensive front. But I'm going to be very
interested to see what does the Miami passing offense look
like indoors on a fast, dry track, because we saw
them in Pittsburgh when it was thirty whatever degrees and
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probably a little windy, and it was very windy today
in College Station. So I'm very interested to go back
a few games and see, like, what's what's the last
time they played a decent defense in relatively calm, decent weather,
and what does the passing offense look like there?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, And I don't know that Ohio State's going to
be as aggressive as Mike Elko was in this game,
calling blitzes, and there are times where they'd have six
or seven guys coming on third down, forcing quick throws.
So I don't know that Miami will need to rely
on the short, quick stuff as much as they did
in this one because they may have more time to throw,
just because Ohio State may only be rushing four and
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then sometimes a fifth or maybe they'll look like they're
rushing six and you know they'll drop two. You know,
you just don't know which too, So like there could
be interception for Olemis there down in the red zone.
There could be more opportunity for Carson Back to actually
look downfield and throw it and not even downfield, just
eight yards downfield instead of three yards behind the line
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of scrimmage, where they could he could use the entire field.
But then you're also you're relying on Carson Back to
to be consistent and accurate throughout the entire course of
the game. And he is. He completes over seventy percent
of his passes, one of the more accurate quarterbacks in
the country. It's just sometimes, like we said in this game,
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the passes that come to the defenders when Carson Back
throws you the ball, if you're the defender, you have
to hold on to it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, there were there were a couple. There were. Frankly,
both quarterbacks had balls that as when they as they
were releasing the balls, I was like, oh, that's an interception.
There was one that then Marcel Reid had on that
last drive where I don't know, he must have thrown
it through the Miami defender and it somehow was also
a completion. I don't know how it happen. But Beck
had a couple where it was like, man, oh man,
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I don't know how he got away with that throw,
and I don't know that you're going to get away
with that against a better defense like Ohio State. And
you can also confuse Carson Beck. And you can also
kind of get Carson Beck a little antsy and get
him to get him jittery and make him throw passes
he probably wants back. So super chef. From Jordan Kapler.
I'd like it if Tom would make a case for
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A and M to admit advance even after this loss,
because sec and his southern voice. Tony Well, I will
come back to that one in a minute. We'll hit
this one from Mike Farino. He says last year, the
Vegas favorite one every game. The lone exception was Notre
Dame over minus one Georgia, but Notre Dame opened is
the favorite. This year the underdog won both games. I
think that ends with Tulane, which, yeah, that seems probable.
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You know, I think this is a year where they
have you know, last year, the way the bracket was
set up, where you had the conference champions being higher
seeds and playing teams that were where they were probably
bigger point spreads. This year, the first two games have
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been close point spreads and I think we're fairly toss
up games in both cases. You know this is you know,
the next I think there's a decent possibility that next
week's games are outside of like a Texas Tech Oregon game. Maybe.
I think a lot of those games are gonna be
bigger point spreads, and I think you're gonna see I
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don't know that I'm gonna pick anyone other than maybe
Oregon maybe to advance, and even then probably not. It
just it feels like you're gonna it's gonna get chalkier
as the bracket goes, because you've got these teams that
are outside of the top four, outside of the top five,
that are a little more flawed, and that creates some
more high variant stuff where you know, you look at
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the Miami offense and the I mean, shoot, look at
either of the offenses on Friday night where they were
really mistake pro and teams are just making like just
idiotic mistakes and missed field goals today and drop passes
and all sorts of crazy stuff. All of that increases
the variance, which then you know, if it's a coin
flip game and you've got like huge error bars on
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it because you're making all sorts of horrendous mistakes that
really kind of you know, that makes it more likely
you're going to have those upsets. I would expect probably
fewer of those as we kind of go through the bracket.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, I was on the ninety seven to one yesterday
last night with Eury Buddy Murph Pat Murphy, and they
wanted to know my thoughts, Like, I haven't filled out
a bracket, but it's hard to go away from chalk.
It's either from whether the way I look at it,
are you going to go with Texas Tech or Indiana?
Like eventually that's like, to me the biggest decision and
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until we see otherwise. But I feel like the uh,
you get into these at least for a highest that
you get into this, so you're playing it Texas team
in Texas. That makes it a little bit more difficult.
And that's why when people are asking me today, you
know who should Ohio State want? Like, well, Texas A
and M is the lesser team. But do you want
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the lesser team in on their home in their home field,
home state or do you rather face a better team
on a truly neutral field. And when I say truly
neutral field, there will be more Ohio State fans than
Miami fans in the Cotton Bowl. So that's kind of
what you're choosing. And that's why in this game today,
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it was choosing either the better team or the Kyle Field,
and we both went with Miami because you know, you
still have to make plays and you still have to
avoid making mistakes and that's something that Texas A and
M has not been able to do. Miami lost a
couple of fumbles in this one, and we're able to
overcome that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, well that was that was also a someone has
to win this game game they will. There are no
more ties in football, so someone does have to win
the game. It was It was certainly a game that
I think whoever lost that game was going to look
back and go like, how did we possibly blow this game?
And there were points, you know when when Texas A
and M got the ball back after that fumble by Tony,
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I thought, oh, they're gonna do it. I can't believe it,
but they are going to get away with this one.
And then and then they didn't, and yeah, Miami finally
finally figured it out at the very end. It was
that reminded me a little bit of the twenty twenty
Big Ten Championship game where Ohio State Justin Fields has
like a bruised or broken thumb, it's all wrapped up.
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They're playing Northwestern, Trey Sermon is running the ball for
like twelve yards of carry and Ohio State's like, Nope,
we're gonna throw it. We are gonna throw it. And
then by the time they finally figured out, like you know,
Trey Sermon nevern't really being able to get him down
to the ground, Like they figured that out kind of
late second or early third quarter, and then he ran
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for three hundred and thirty one yards in that game.
So that felt a little like that with Mark Fletcher
was like Miami got there eventually. It took him about
fifty six minutes of gameplay or so, but they figured
it out eventually. So, uh, we should bring back this
one from Jordan Kapler. Uh, he'd like to if I
could make the case for A and M to advance
even after the loss, because sec in his Southern voice, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan,
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is this thing along? Jordan? Can you hear me? Can
you hear me? Jordan, Jordan, Listen, listen, I know what
the scoreboard said Jordan. But but but come on, come on, Jordan,
it's it's Texas. There's no football. There's no state more
football than Texas, and in Texas is in the SEC,
and there's no conference more football than the SEZ. So
how can you possibly have a college football tournament? It
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had a team from Texas. Now you're gonna say what
about Texas Tech? No, no, no, Tech, that they are
not in the SEC. They don't count. It is Texas,
it is Texas ain't in the CON. The College Football
Committee left Texas out? Was that a miscarriage of justice?
I think we all know the answer to that. They
only lost three games and they play with conference. They
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play at the best conference, the deepest conference. It doesn't
mean more in the a CZ No, it does not.
It means more. We're in the SEC. How can you
have a football tournament and pretend it means something if
you don't have the team from the conference where it
means more. It's just math, Jordan.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You can't. You can't pretend, Tom, you can't pretend at all.
I mean, and why aren't we using the eye test?
Why are we using the eye tests? And instead of
some arbitrary scoreboard? Are you kidding me. Yes, you we've.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
All been at games where the scoreboard goes out. You
can't trust that. Come on, you've gotta you gotta listen.
And we all know hype on a hypothetical field. We
know Texas A and M wins that game one hundred
times out of one hundred. So the the real tragedy
this week Tony, is that both Oklahoma and Alabama couldn't
both advance. That's the real tragedy this weekend, tom You.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Put these two teams, you put Miami, Texas A and
M on a neutral field, M and one hundred times
out of one hundred, Texas A and A windsay game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, absolutely, hypothetically, absolutely they do. Yeah,
for sure. They had the they had the pressure of
Kyle Field, Miss rev was there. I mean, they've got
all those all those cadets with the drums and what
have you. Yeah, that's that's that's not a fair that's
not a fair thing to put on Texas A and M. No,
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absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
We have.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Uh oh. There was a lot of conversation about the
opening line for Ohio State Miami that looks like it's
about eight and a half. Is the opening line buck
Eyes by eight and a half. You know, I think
this is a maybe we should talk about the Miami
defense before we get too deep into the matchup with
Ohio State. But you know, this is when we were
talking about the fact that Ohio State was probably better
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off playing A and M than Miami. I think Miami
is capable of doing the things to beat Ohio State.
Miami is also capable of doing the things to lose
by thirty to Ohio State, Like that's absolutely a possibility.
But they're capable of doing the things that sort of
drag this into a you know, Indiana Big Ten Championship
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game kind of thing where you get enough pressure, you
get Julian staying off the spot, you don't give them
time to throw the ball, you don't give them time
to get the receivers open deep, you do some do
some stuff with the defensive line, and you can you know,
you beat a blocker here and there, and you make
it hard for Ohio State to run. And you've got
you know, enough skill position talent that you can make
things happen here and there, and maybe you make a
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big play on special teams like you can you can
paint the picture where Miami wins this Cotton Bowl game.
Watching Texas A and m against Texas and then watching
them in this game, it was like, there's no frickin
way there's That would have been a non competitive football
game because it's Ohio State. If Miami could run the
ball against Texas A and m Ohio State could, sure
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as heck run the ball against Texas A and M.
Miami had one of the worst and least explosive run
offenses in the nation this year. They were like one
hundred and thirtieth in runs of thirty yards or more.
Ohio State was not great in that area, but they
were like forty fifth, Like they were markedly better Ohio
State on a fast, dry track. Ohio State lights that
defense on fire and leaves it on their neighbor's porch
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like it is just that that's not like the Ohio
State could run the ball, and then once they could
run the ball, then they're gonna be able to throw
the ball, and then it's like whoop, Then you've got
you've got a big, big, big problem. So Miami I
think presents more of a challenge because I think their defense,
the defensive ends especially, but the injury of the defensive
line with Justin Scott and who was the defensive tackle
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that got hurt right near the end of the game,
Moten like he had a nice game. The defensive line,
the defensive line had from Miami looked really good. The
secondary was you know, I mean this, I was okay.
I still have concerns about that secondary in a dry,
fast field against a better wide receiver unit than Texas
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A and M has, But you know, we'll get there
later on. We really didn't. Texas A and M really
didn't stress them in that area because their quarterback was
not good and the conditions were not great, and they
also couldn't run the ball. Yeah, I think Miami has
a much better chance to beat Ohiotate than Texas A
and M would. But you know, I also look at
eight and a half and go, yeah, yeah, I think
(27:29):
I could. I think that's a perfectly reasonable line for
this game.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I would agree. And then you look at this
Miami defense. Seven sacks of a mobile quarterback, but a
couple of those, I think you've ran himself into sacks
as well. But when we talk about Miami defense, we
talked about a key messador at Ruben Bain together, they
had four and a half sacks in this five and
a half tackles for loss. We know they're very capable.
I think those guys being very capable, they don't necessarily
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have to do a lot of tricks on a defensive line,
which kind of plays into Ohio State. That helps out
Ohio State. When the defensive line doesn't have to do
a bunch of tricks, they just rely on on skill
and it's like, Okay, if I'm just facing the guy
in front of me, this is very much. This is
easier for Ohio Ohio State to do. Now, your tack
will still have to hold up, which is asking a
(28:16):
lot against Miami's pass rushers. But yeah, this was This
was a very impressive outing by them. But I need
to see a more. I guess we'll watch the Notre
Dame game. We'll watch some other games. I want to
see a like a composed quarterback, how do they operate
(28:38):
against Miami, and one that is playing in some more
ideal conditions because watching Marcel Reed try to throw in
the wind when he's he's already thrown at a thousand
miles per hour no matter where the ball is going,
and it feels like he's feeling the bruge before it's
even there. So what does a more composed quarterback look
(28:59):
like something that I'll be watching when we venture into
these other games.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, I was just looking. Marcel Reid was a sixty
two percent percent passer on the season on the whole,
so I thought, oh boy, it was bet it was
worse than that, because it felt worse than that in
this game. He was actually a sixty four percent passer
in this game, twenty five for thirty nine to thirty seven.
And you know, we're talking mostly to an audience of
Ohio State fans who was what spent the whole season
watching the quarterback completely eighty percent of his passes if
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you're used to that, Like man, that was pain full, painful.
And Carson Beck completed seventy percent of his passes, but
it was fourteen of twenty four, one hundred and three yards,
one touchdown on like a little bit of a like
a flip about three inches forward and but no picks,
and that was that was really the difference for him,
(29:48):
super chet for Mike Freno. Why couldn't we have last
year's bracket rules guaranteed run to the semi finals? Yes,
under last year's bracket rules, Ohio State would have been
the fifth seed because the top four spots were guaranteed
to the top four conference champion, So that would put
Ohio State fifth, playing number twelve James Madison, and then
in the quarterfinals they would have played number four two
lane in the in the second round, which you know
(30:10):
a first round by but then playing Miami in the
second round that is you get a buye and it's
still a marketing, you know, a marketly harder at even
though you're a two seed instead of a five seed.
This very much feels like they have clearly not quite
gotten the whole process right in terms of the seedings
and the rankings, because ang Ohio State would much much
much rather be playing a you know, the number six
(30:33):
Ole Miss team in the round two rather than number
ten Miami, and then you know, you're the number two
team and you got to go play Georgia after that.
George is probably happier that they're playing Ole Miss than Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You mentioned two lane. Right now, they're fourth and two
trying to pick up they're moving the ball. This feels
like a sixty three thirty five, sixty three twenty eight
kind of final where everybody's scoring, it's just two Lane
can't score enough to keep up.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, super tip from Murphy Saraphino. What if a percentage
chance Miami scores more than ten points against Ohio State?
Just don't see it more than ten. I think that's
better than fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't see them scoring twenty without scoring on defense
or special teams, but scoring more than ten. I'm probably
gonna pick Miami to score more than ten. This is
I will absolutely I refuse to be held to this.
I will refuse to I will absolutely change my mind
several times as we take in more more Miami football,
consume more Miami football between now and then. But you know,
(31:35):
at twenty seven seventeen, twenty eight, seventeen, thirty one, seventeen
kind of score that feels maybe about right, thirty one,
you know, twenty eight thirteen something something in that neighborhood
feels about right for this one where Ohio State wins,
probably covers. But you know, I don't. I don't think
(31:56):
this is gonna be forty two to three or any
thing like that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
No, And I do wonder can Ohio State avoid giving
up short fields through turnovers or you know whatever failed
forth down at the forty five or something like that
where you are helping Miami out, and I do wonder,
so do you stay maybe non aggressive that way and
and force Miami to go seventy five yards eighty yards
(32:24):
every single time they have the ball, because if they do,
chances are that, yeah, twenty one points or twenty points
would win it for you. So I'm interested to see, like,
do you with this Ohio State defense, do you choose
to just remain a little a little conservative on offense,
even though we talk about once you get to the playoffs,
(32:44):
you got to swing away and you gotta do this,
you gotta do that. It's like, well, if I only
need to score twenty, how much swinging away do I
need to do? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But you but you need to score twenty, so I
think you can't. You can't go, well, we need to
score twenty. So if we have ten at halftime, we're
right on track. Like you want to. You want to
score twenty four points, twenty eight points, and you want
to be in cruise control in the third and fourth quarter,
not scrambling to get to twenty eight points in the
(33:14):
third and fourth quarter again, we'll see I reserve my
right to change my mind on this a couple times,
but I think you're gonna see a little bit more
of an aggressive Ohio State offense, just because I think
they feel like they can trust Julian saying at this point,
you know, this is not Week one against Texas where
they're trying to protect Julian saying and not have him,
(33:34):
not put him in bad spots. If they feel like
they can hold up in terms of the past, you know,
pass pro and not letting McKim, Messidora and Rubon Bain
get all over Julian saying, then you have opportunities to
win the game down the field, and I think they'll
have the opportunity to run the ball at least. Okay,
against Miami, I think they'll be. I think they'll be
(33:56):
a little more aggressive than you know, trying to They're
not gonna sit back. I can try and win this
game seventeen to ten, like they're gonna be. They're gonna
be a little more aggressive than that. We have a
super chat and watching this, Mike Frino says, do you
think this Miami offense is the first team he gets
seventeen against? Ohio State. I mean, yeah, maybe. I mean
(34:17):
it's you're playing indoors.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know, it's a it's a no wins, no rain,
no anything. I maybe, I mean, I I would feel
I think there's a better chance that Miami scores seventeen
points than Miami scores three points. You know, I think
I think you're gonna They're gonna get to somewhere in
(34:41):
that ten thirteen seventeen kind of range. All it takes
is one Ohio State turnover deep in there, you know,
deep in their own end, or malec Hi Toni returning,
you know, a punt return or something like that, Like
you can, I can. I can see plenty of ways
Miami gets to seventeen points in this game. And this
is not a game where Ryan Day is going to
(35:01):
be trying to prove a point like this is going
to be a game where if Ohio State's up thirty
one to ten, Ohio State is going to get very
conservative and just you know, get the get the game
over with and move on to the next one, and
don't put a bunch of stuff on tape, and don't
put a bunch of guys at risk. You know, I
think you could There's a lot of ways I could
see Miami getting to seventeen. I don't. I don't see
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Ohio State shutting Miami.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Out in this one, no, I think with This is
also the first time Miami was held under twenty points
this season, So good job there. But also when you
get it when your best offensive weapon is your slot receiver.
And we saw the way that Indiana attacked the runs
of Styles Junior in the Big Ten Championship game, but
(35:45):
they did it downfield. Malachai Toni is not necessarily the
downfield threat. But do they change that up? Is this
the guy that well, we just need to make sure
we tackle him at the line of scrimmage and then
it's like, oh, then he just went, you know, ran
right by you. If you're focused on that, remember last
year at Oregon when they don't throw the ball beyond
the sticks and then suddenly they started throwing the ball
(36:07):
beyond the sticks and every Ohigh State cornerback was getting
lit up. So the fact that you have had teams
successfully attack Lorenzo Styles Junior and he's been there, the
coverage has been there for the most part. It's just
they've been making some really good plays against him. But
the fact that you have offenses that we've got a
(36:27):
week to figure out what to do. What are we
gonna do, Well, we should attack number three and if
number six comes in, we'll also attack him. Everything else
we're just gonna have to piecemeal and figure out what
we can do from play to play. But those two guys,
we're gonna have to go after him. And then how
effective is malc I Tony and that kind of change
where he becomes maybe more of a downfield guy than
(36:48):
a gadget guy, and we'll see. I just you know,
in terms of seventeen points, if you're in the playoffs,
you should be able to score seventeen points. I think
just that's three plays, you know, basically that's just making
three plays and compounding that into some other drives and
(37:09):
things like that. So I'm not boy. But then to
say yeah, I think, you know, I could see seventeen points,
it's like, well, I mean maybe, but you know, how
much help do you need? Again? You know, with this
Ohio State defense, where are you going to are these
two seventy five yard touchdown drives and a sixty five
(37:32):
yard field goal drive? And if so, that's pretty impressive.
If you're doing that, then you might be having more
success than Ohio State knows, you know, is accustomed to,
and so seventeen becomes more than that. But the fact
that plenty of teams have found the opportunity and nobody's
done it yet, And this is not the best offense
Ohio State has faced. There's some good skill there, but
(37:54):
it's not it's not going to be the best offense
they face. Maybe the best offensive line. I think, you know,
you can probably throw Indiana up there as well, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I mean Indiana against this Miami team, I'm taking Indiana
by at least a touchdown. It just like this is
this isn't you know. Indiana is a team that does
not have the flashy high end talent necessarily, But it's
just it's just a much better team overall. Like it's
a much better coach team overall. You don't have. I mean,
(38:28):
it has been a while since we've gotten a good
Mario Crystal bowling and the clock management in the first half,
they burned two timeouts early. They've got the ball they're
trying to drive down before halftime, and they burn a
bunch of time instead of clocking the ball, they get
a first down and burn like nine seconds that they
didn't need to with like twenty seconds left and cost
(38:49):
themselves a chance at a more makeable field goal. It
was just you've got you've got that stuff too, like,
you know, and all this stuff they did. They had
a kicker that missed a bunch of field goals. It
was windy. We understand it will not be windy inside
Jerry World, but there's there's a bunch of just sort
of little stuff there was. You know, Miami has the usual,
(39:10):
Oh it's the U and we're going to be tough
and we're gonna have swagger, and then you know, and
then you have guys who like they had a couple
that should have been like very clear, like very clear
fifteen yard penalties that weren't called for, like hits way
out of bounds. It's you know, it is a you know,
it's a Miami team that is going to make some
(39:31):
mistakes and you're probably going to have a false start
or two you're going to have a delay of game
or two Mario Cristo Baul is going to burn your
timeouts way too early, and then you're gonna be stuck
and you're taking delay game with because of that, you're
gonna have a bunch of that little stuff. And I think,
you know, on the whole, Ohio State is a more
talented team than the Miami I don't think that's going
to be a kind of a controversial statement. And I
(39:53):
think Ohio State is probably a more complete team than Miami,
and Ohio State's probably going to have what's the crowd
for this seventy five twenty five? So, I mean it's
gonna be it's gonna be a heavily pro Ohio State
crowd down there. So and frankly, this is a game
that might not be like the stadium might not be
(40:13):
full because I think there were probably a lot of
Texas A and M fans that probably bought tickets when
this bracket came out. Oh boy, and nope, thank you
for thank you for playing though, And so I think
this is gonna be a pretty heavily pro Ohio State crowd.
And I think you're gonna have, you know, it's an
opportunity for Ohio State to, you know, potentially just it
(40:35):
just takes one or two false starts to lay of
games whatever it is for Miami to get them off
schedule because I don't it is not going to be
as easy for them to move the ball against Ohio
State as it was for them against Texas A and M.
And it was not real easy for them to move
ball against Texas A and M.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Today, tu Lane keeping the fight a lot on the
drive charts for this game. So Texas A and M
had five drives of a thirty yards, Miami had two,
and they had three missed field goal drives. None of
them were over thirty yards. Those drives were four plays
negative four yards, seven plays for twenty four yards, four
(41:12):
plays for three yards. Their two drives over thirty were
nine for seventy two and six for eighty six. And
those were their two scoring drives basically, so they drove
the ball twice, scored on both of those. And Texas
A and M had drives of sixty four or sixty
five that was a missed that was the block field goal,
sixty seven that was the made field goal, and then
(41:35):
seventy at the end, which was the interception. So Miami
didn't need to do much in this one. And you
credit the Texas A and M defense, and you know,
we look at this if like, well, if Texas A
and M could do this. But again, I think I
think it is okay to chalk quite a bit of this,
some of this up to the conditions. It was windy.
We talk about it all the time when we're making
(41:57):
excuses for Ohio State in the passing game. It's like
it is, it does impact the offense. And so we
saw two offenses which are which you have already sort
of compromised throwing the ball, and so then you incorporate
win in this. And they talked about Marcel Reid how
he likes to throw the ball downfield, good luck in
(42:17):
these kinds of situations because it's tough. And then Carson
Back was I'll just I'll live behind a line of
scrimmage and we will live to fight another day.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Mike Frano says. And it was the first team to
not score a touchdown in the twelve team playoff era. Yeah,
that's I mean, that was a that was a uniquely
bad performance in so many ways. You know, scoreless at
the half and what three nothing after three quarters? That
was that was really incredible, and it was it felt
(42:48):
like there were there were plenty of times that you thought, okay,
now they've now they've figured it out. Now, they've you know,
they've got the ball across midfield. Texas A and M
had a couple drives right off the bat where you thought, okay,
they you know, they got into Miami territory twice, to
the Miami forty three and the Miami thirty one on
their first two drives, then got to the Miami five
on their fourth drive. So they're in Miami territory three times,
(43:12):
inside the red zone once and it came away with
zero points and it was like, oh boy, that is
you You see that, and it's just like already, I'm
sure every Texas A and M fan was thinking this
might not be our day because if you if you
do that that often sometimes you know, sometimes you win.
And the lesson everyone takes from it as well, it
(43:33):
was a matter of time before they broke through because
they were just gonna be able to do that all day.
And in a game like that where you're playing a
decent defense, the lesson is that you'd better get your
points when you have an opportunity to get your points.
If you're down in the ring. You know, if you're
down in their territory three times, you'd better come out
with double digit points out of it at the very least,
you know, twice inside the you know, basically the thirty
(43:54):
you should be scoring a touchdown and kicking a field
goal there at the very least, and you come away
with zero points. That you know, you saw that with
Ohio State in the second half of the of the
Big Ten championship game where they're inside the red zone
twice and come away with zero points. And it was
a missed field goal and a fourth down stop. That was,
(44:14):
you know, a an overturned on replay fourth downstop because
it was that close. But that's you were in the
season where that's the margin for error you've got. You've
got to play, You've got to really be on your
p's and q's because just those little things, those little mistakes,
those little those times you come up just that much short.
That's that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Texas saying them in the red zone three times came
away with three points.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That is rough. That is rough, boy, And and I
think everyone it's it's great. Everyone is getting a real
sense for Miami fans right now.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeahs or so.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Lots of Miami fans telling us the narrative was Miami
was gonna get smoked by Texas A and m friends.
We picked we both picked Miami to beat Texas A
and m I can assure you, like I don't understand
the Miami thing where it's like, yeah, well, notes to you,
we're so much better. You know, you don't know you
were seriously legitimately like you know the gift I posted
(45:17):
this gift on Twitter, but you know the gift of
the Yankees fans in the outfield where they're just like going, ooh,
that's every Miami fan. That is every Miami fan on
the internet. Like it is just the dumbest fan base.
Like we do these shows where we preview, you know,
we'll watch another team's game before they play the Ohio State,
and the comments are like universally like oh, well you know, here's.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Here's what you know. I like this.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I agree with this. Uh what about this? You might
not know this. Miamians, you don't know nothing. They go,
they're going to unbelievable wide receivals. It's not just mencha,
I told you they got all these guys. They're unbelievable.
And it's like every fan base you will find people
girl like this is the worst fan base like, this
is the worst fan base on Twitter, this is the
(46:03):
worst fan base online whatever, every fan base says. Miami
fans are like the worst. I talked to someone who
is at the game today was like, I cannot wait.
I hope Ohio State beats Miami by fifty because Miami
fans are the worst. It's like, yeah, it is the
And the best part, Tony is how unjustified it's been.
It's like every Miami fan lapsed into a coma in
(46:26):
the first quarter of the two thousand and three Fiesta.
Bal And just woke up and is so sure they
are still running the college football world? Tony? Are they
running the college football world? I've been into coma since
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Fill me in, Well, Tom, do you know about fan fiction?
Are you aware of this concept?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yes, that's basically what we're talking about. Yes, that's what
it's kind of like, where they've taken the late eighties
to in the nineties and then the early two thousand
and two thousand and one, and they've created their own
verse basically, and they've spread it out and they've done
(47:09):
all of these like fan fiction thoughts and imaginations and
sometimes Tom, people can get lost in the reality that
they create. It's very unfortunate where you just you have
nothing outside, so everything is internal and you start to
(47:32):
you know, from what I've read on these things, the
journals of things, where these Miami fans can sometimes just
get lost in their own world of make believe and
not like mister Rogers, where it's a thing where they're
helping children. This helps nobody. This is actually this is
(47:52):
impacts children negative way, impacts adults in a negative way.
And that's not all Miami fans. Tom, would you say
eighty I don't you know, you know, I don't think
it's maybe ninety ninety two. I don't know. But we
all welcome all of the Miami fans. Thank you for
the comments and the chats, and I'm sure we will
(48:12):
have more comments and more chats because we will have
plenty of more Miami shows to come as we look
over some games to to recap and rewatch over the
course of the season.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yes, for those Miami fans who have been in a coma,
you are now in the ACC, not the Big East.
Is the ACC any good at football? It sure isn't. Wow,
I bet you've won a bunch of counch of conference championships.
Since you've been there, well, friends, I have bad news.
You may want to sit down. None none, since you
joined the ACC, is the ACC good? Nope? Sure isn't.
Thanks for asking Mike forre you know, super chat, I'm
(48:47):
going to drop and go watch the Brawl the While
to recommend once everyone has done here, to go watch
that instead of the old miss scrimmage game. Yes, Brawl
the Wild is a phenomenal Montana Montana State game. It's
at Montana State this week. I saw snow on the
field on the pregame stuff, So yeah, that should be
a phenomenal game that is worth exploring. When we wrap
(49:09):
up here, which might be might be relatively.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Soon, Yeah, relatively soon, watch a couple of games, Watch
Cats Grizz, watch the CFP and cf TWU. Lane can
keep fighting and try to make this close. We will see.
I'm not expecting a Boise State, Oklahoma two thousand and
six type of situation, but you can always hope. But
(49:33):
so let's see here. Thank you for the super chats, everybody.
I'm wondering, then, is there anything else that we need
to touch on before we go? Because we are gonna
have plenty of Miami talk throughout the course of this
next week. We will watch Notre Dame, the Miami Notre
(49:54):
Dame game, We'll watch a couple of others and see
how our thoughts in Miami change. And again we picked Miami.
So thank You're welcome, Miami fans. We believed in you
guys when nobody else did. We believed in the Hurricanes.
We were there, We were fighting right alongside you. We
were throwing eggs right alongside you and Kyle Field today
(50:16):
getting citations and all of those things. We enjoyed this.
I love the game. I thought it was fantastic. I
know a lot of people complained about it. I thought
this is a game that anything can happen, and any
play could be the one that won it and or
the one that lost it. And then we finally saw
that happen at the end.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yes, yes, so there you go, Miami football. Is the
you back Tony Well? I guess well, they got double digits,
so sure, crank up the fog machine.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
They're back against you against They're back against the SEC
if that means anything. So then are we ready to wrap?
Do we want to go ahead and wrap?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think we can wrap.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
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Speaker 2 (51:26):
There we go. All right, so Armando says, let's go Canes.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Boy, of all the football games I've watched, and boy,
howdy have I watched a bunch of football games, that
was certainly one of them, Tony, it is uh man,
I literally don't know where to start with that, but yeah, yeah,
(00:36):
should we start with the quality depth of the SEC
and how it's unparalleled in any other conference because no
team Tony had ever lost a home football game in
the College Football Playoff, Now two teams have. For both
of them, it just meant more.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It always means more for the SEC, and unfortunately today
they've fell just short by by you know, a little
bit by a score to Miami. And we went into
this game saying, whichever quarterback makes the fewest mistakes, that
team was going to win. And I think that held
true here for Miami and and did not hold true
(01:13):
for Texas A and m as Marcel Reet throws the
interception on the final play there, which is I think
that entire final drive and capsulates what you would have
gotten from Texas A and m where they can he
can move march you right down, but then there's always
the possibility of there's going to be an interception there
and instead Carson back in the Miami offense. Some bizarre
(01:38):
play calling, but relatively I guess, composed and not super aggressive.
Fourteen of twenty fo one hundred and three yards passing,
one touchdown. The one touchdown was a little jet jet
sweeps Malakaye Tony to give them the lead late in
the fourth quarter. Malachae Toni, the star freshman receiver, five catches,
(01:59):
two yards, one touchdown, six targets. To give you an
idea of how he was used and then how he
is using the first half three three catches and negative
one yards with the long of one yard.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, that was that was incredible. How Texas A and
M shut him down. That was because he was you know,
the last game we watched was the pit game, and
he was. They built the whole plane out of Malachay
Toni in that game and this one he really did
almost nothing. He had the touchdown, he did have the
only touchdown of the game, which you know, to his credit,
(02:33):
he had the only touchdown of the game. But you know,
twenty two yards receiving and nine yards rushing and one
incomplete pass, And yeah, it was I think the thing
that I was most surprised about was how well Miami
ran the ball, because Miami did not run the ball
really particularly well all season. And Mark Fletcher in this
(02:55):
game had seventeen carries one hundred and seventy two yards
long of fifty six average ten point one. And you know,
sometimes you'll have the one big run that sort of
skews it for you, but seven ten, seventeen, three, one
three one, twenty four, thirteen one three, sixteen fifty six
two twelve three two. But I mean there's a lot
(03:17):
of sort of you know, you're not staying on schedule,
but you're not losing yards. There's not a lot of
zeros and ones in there, and he also had a
couple big ones. But just the fact that they were
able to run the ball for fifteen or so yards
per carry, was that was fifteen or so yards per
at a pop, you know, as consistently as he did,
was a little surprising to me. And now I can
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hear everyone saying, how is Texas A and M in
terms of run defense? Well, friends, there's a reason Texas
A and M was lower on my list in terms
of most dangerous opponents for Ohio State than Miami because
Texas A and M's run defense suh ditdley ucks fifty
seventh in the nation and yards per rush all out,
so whereas Ohio State on that list better than that
they are well, I don't have it in front of
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me here, but they were I think top five, top ten,
So I would not expect Mark Fletcher to run for
ten yards per carry against the Buckeyes and the Cotton Bowl.
We should get to a couple. We have a bunch
of super chat stacking up already. We'll get to these
and then if you want to throw them more in,
if you want to get your question answered right now,
throw in a super chat from Mike Farino. Does Miami
get into the red zone against Ohio State without turnovers?
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One piece of this that I think is worth noting.
My brother was at this game, so I was sort
of getting Okay, they're talking about it being windy. How
windy is it really? And he said the way he
described it, and boy, howdy, get ready to text us, y'all.
He said, people's cowboy hats were blowing off their heads,
so it was pretty windy. You know, not consistently like
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a Gaye Force win like the Northwestern game a couple
of years ago for Ohio State, but it was windy
enough that that was undoubtedly affecting some of the passes.
Because neither of those team, no, neither of those quarterbacks
have like incredible arms by any means, like Marcel Reid.
That was going to impact Marcel Read's ability to drive
the ball down the field. That if Marcel Reid couldn't
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drive the ball down the field, that took away one
of the areas that I think we looked at and
thought EXAs Texas a and might be able to take
advantage of that. So, you know, as far as the
Miami offense, Tony, my expectation is, yes, they get into
the red zone against Ohio State without turnovers. I'm not
sure even on a indoor, fast dry track. I walked
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me through the scenario where Miami scores twenty points on
the Ohio State defense.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And we saw Miami's offensive line look human this in
this game as well, which I thought was one of
their strengths and their pass protection, and yet they weren't.
Carsten Beck didn't have a lot of time to throw,
which is why they threw so many quick stuff, you know,
quick passes and things of that nature. I would also
say Malca Toni at the fifty five yard punt return,
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so there's a possibility that they could punt return themselves
into the red zone as well. But sustained drives. The
last two games before this, Mark Fletcher I think had
sixteen carries for forty nine yards total against Syracusan pitt So,
which is the real mark Mark Fletcher where you've got
the standard. This was his fourth one hundred yard game,
but this is by far the best he had looked
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over the course of the game. And then inexplicably, they'd run,
He'd run well, and it's like, okay, now it's time
to start throwing the ball again, and it's like, what
if you just stick with the running game? And then
they finally did on that last drive, and lo and
behold they finally scored a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, that was I think Shannon Dawson is not going
to enjoy watching that Gant game film for several reasons.
I mean, the offense obviously looked like what the offense
looked like, but man, it was just I saw Bill
landis our buddy Bill Landis say it reminded him of
like when Ohio State came into games ten years ago
and we're like, well, we got it. Here's the number
of touches we got to get each of these guys,
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and it's like that does not lend itself to a
coherent game plan, and it just it felt like, well
we gotta you know, we gotta get Malachai Tony Gunning
and we got it. And it's like if they are
shutting it, if they're taking what, you gotta go do
something else. And you know, I think Ohio State has
done a pretty good job of that, where when teams
have said we're going to take Jeremiah Smith away, Ohio
State has been perfectly willing to sort of shrug their
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shoulders and go okay and go beat you a different way.
It felt like Shannon Dawson is really kind of, you know,
really wanted to get certain guys touches and really wanted
to try and do it. You know, oh boy, we're
gonna we're gonna catch him with this one. And it
was like the Texas A and and defense was pretty disciplined.
You know, they didn't they got beat at times, but
it wasn't like, oh boy, they really blew an assignment here.
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It was they had guys in position, which at that point,
you know, then that's when you probably don't need to
go run the reverse or the throwback or the like that.
That's not working, so then stick with you know, stick
with the outside zone. That seemed like it was working
just fine for Miami for decent chunks of the game,
and then they'd get away from it and do something else,
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and all of a sudden they'd be punting.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Almost three plays seventy five yards touchdown fifty nine seconds
on their first drive of the game against Tulane. Uh
the Yeah, the best post of the day on our
message board was that from I think RC three Miller
saying that it looked like both Andy Cotle Nicky was
calling place for both both teams in this one. Just
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some unnecessary stuff where you've got what four offensive linemen
lined out wide on one and then they do something
with Malaca Toni for like two yards or whatever. It's like,
you can just play football, like football is meant to
be difficult, but you don't have to make it even
more difficult by what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, it was. It was sort of unnecessarily complicated. I
also name checked Andy cotal Nicky at one point and
said that Shandon Dawson's offense looked like you could tell
he had come from both the Andy kotal Niki.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And uh uh what did I say?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It doesn't matter? The Rube Goldberg coaching trees like that
was that was the like just what are we doing?
Like just but it wasn't like other stuff was working,
but it wasn't working insistently. But they didn't let it
work consistently. So I don't know how much to know.
And for all that we heard from Miami fans about
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what idiots we were about the fact that, oh boy,
the wide receivers they have Tony, they have more than
one wide receiver. It's not just Malachai Tony. They have
man o man do they have wide receivers? And CJ.
Daniels had two catches for twenty nine yards and Keel
and Marion had three catches for thirty three yards and
that was on a combined nine targets. They had five
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catches for sixty two yards, so a little under seven
yards per target there for the other two wide receivers
for Miami. So yes, regular you know we can go
back and watch some other games earlier in the season,
but my opinion on the Miami wide receiving corps did
not materially change in this one supertech from Mike farinosas
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A and M's offense look like an offense who had
an offensive coordinator that was worried about his next team.
Miami look at a team that was prepared by Mario Christobal.
I do the Colin Kline thing with with A and
M is a fair point because he is obviously going
and taking the Kansas State job, which the obvious comparison
as well. Ob Ohio State's offensive coordinator Brian Hartline is
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leaving to take the USF job, So are they going
to run into some of the same issues. I think
the difference there as Mike Elko is a defensive guy
as the head coach and Ryan Day is an offensive
guy as the head coach. So if Brian Hartline is
distracted or Brian Hartline has not had his nose in
his textbook for the last three weeks, that's okay because
Ohio State has Ryan Day, who can you know, has
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had plenty of extra time, and we'll probably have a
little bit more say in this game plan, and you know,
we'll see what the what the official plan is when
we get to talk to them on Monday in terms
of the you know, the plan for the Cotton Bowl
and how they'll handle the play calling and all that
kind of stuff. But yeah, I if it was if
this was Matt Patricia leaving to take another job, I
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think that would be more of a concern for me
from the Ohios date perspective than Brian Hartline.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I like that you think that we're going to get
the final answer on how things are going to go
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, we're going to ask. We certainly will ask, and
then we'll see how it goes well. More super chat.
I think Texas also had one of the best run
games of the season against A and M. Yeah, Texas
A and M was not an impressive team in terms
of yards per carry allowed this year. They just they
the defense was a much better pass rushing defensive front
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than it was the A run stopping defensive front. Just
to put this in perspective, Texas A and M was
fifty eighth in the country four yards per carry Ohio
State this year two point eight three yards per carry,
fifth in the nation, So you know, I think the
sledding is going to get a little tougher for Mark
Fletcher in the Miami run game in Arlington.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, And to Mike's point, on the Texas A and
M defense gave up two hundred and eighteen yards to
Texas six point two yards per carry, gave up two
hundred and seven to Missouri six point one per Carrie,
gave up two sixty eight to Arkansas eight point four
per Kerry. That is not going to be the situation
in Ohio State runs into against a Miami defense that
now it's we saw, Well, we'll see what happens with
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Mama Torre, who gotten really dinged up, and hopefully he'll
be I'll have enough time to get out of a
concussion protocol after that hit that basically saved the game
there at the goal line. And this was we talked
when we watched the Miami pit game about how, you know,
none of the linebackers really stood out, but I thought
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he was a standout in this game, finished with eight
tackles and that pass break up at the end. And
we also didn't I don't believe we saw Canta Scott
against Pitt and he's their Nickel, and he had two sacks,
three tackles for lost, ten tackles. He was everywhere. So
that was a couple of impact guys that didn't necessarily
stand out prior, and certainly guys that we're going to
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as we watch more Miami football, we will see, uh,
we'll see other guys step up as well. The safety
Poyser left, I don't know if he ever came back,
and so there's a little some guys getting banged up
in there. But the good news is you have more
than the standard amount of time to get healthy. The
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game is eleven days a way time. You're the countdown guy,
I am not. Is that correct? The thirty first from now? Tom?
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yes, it's the twentieth, So it's eleven days, eleven days
and a little under four hours right from right now. Well,
actually probably about four hours because they listed as a
seven thirty kickoff, which means football actually meet ball at
about seven fifty or so. So yeah, we're we're about
eleven days and four hours away from that one, and yeah,
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it should be a good one. I'm really interested in
how different this Miami offense looks against a better defense,
because the Texas A and M defense. Okay, they were
not incredible. I mean just yards per play sp plus
whatever metric you want to use. Ohio State was better
than A and M. SP plus had them as the
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twenty first best defense, twenty fifty seventh in yards per
rush allowed nineteenth yards per pass allowed. Like they're all
they're kind of like somewhere between fine and not bad.
But it's it's going to be a different thing for
when they're playing Ohio State. What's going to be maybe
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more more interesting is Okay, what does it look like
when it's not really windy, Because I do think that
impacted the passing game to a certain degree for sure,
And you know, we can certainly get into the we
should also get into the Miami defense at some point,
which I'm sure we will, But you know, I think
there's a reason that we both picked Miami to win
that game, and there's a reason we both thought Miami
was going to be a better matchup in terms of
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being able to provide you have a better chance to
beat Ohio State than Texas A and M did. And
I still think a lot of that whole I think
we saw a lot of a lot of that from
the Miami defensive front. But I'm going to be very
interested to see what does the Miami passing offense look
like indoors on a fast, dry track, because we saw
them in Pittsburgh when it was thirty whatever degrees and
(15:15):
probably a little windy, and it was very windy today
in College Station. So I'm very interested to go back
a few games and see, like, what's what's the last
time they played a decent defense in relatively calm, decent weather,
and what does the passing offense look like there?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, And I don't know that Ohio State's going to
be as aggressive as Mike Elko was in this game,
calling blitzes, and there are times where they'd have six
or seven guys coming on third down, forcing quick throws.
So I don't know that Miami will need to rely
on the short, quick stuff as much as they did
in this one because they may have more time to throw,
just because Ohio State may only be rushing four and
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then sometimes a fifth or maybe they'll look like they're
rushing six and you know they'll drop two. You know,
you just don't know which too, So like there could
be interception for Olemis there down in the red zone.
There could be more opportunity for Carson Back to actually
look downfield and throw it and not even downfield, just
eight yards downfield instead of three yards behind the line
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of scrimmage, where they could he could use the entire field.
But then you're also you're relying on Carson Back to
to be consistent and accurate throughout the entire course of
the game. And he is. He completes over seventy percent
of his passes, one of the more accurate quarterbacks in
the country. It's just sometimes, like we said in this game,
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the passes that come to the defenders when Carson Back
throws you the ball, if you're the defender, you have
to hold on to it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, there were there were a couple. There were. Frankly,
both quarterbacks had balls that as when they as they
were releasing the balls, I was like, oh, that's an interception.
There was one that then Marcel Reid had on that
last drive where I don't know, he must have thrown
it through the Miami defender and it somehow was also
a completion. I don't know how it happen. But Beck
had a couple where it was like, man, oh man,
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I don't know how he got away with that throw,
and I don't know that you're going to get away
with that against a better defense like Ohio State. And
you can also confuse Carson Beck. And you can also
kind of get Carson Beck a little antsy and get
him to get him jittery and make him throw passes
he probably wants back. So super chef. From Jordan Kapler.
I'd like it if Tom would make a case for
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A and M to admit advance even after this loss,
because sec and his southern voice. Tony Well, I will
come back to that one in a minute. We'll hit
this one from Mike Farino. He says last year, the
Vegas favorite one every game. The lone exception was Notre
Dame over minus one Georgia, but Notre Dame opened is
the favorite. This year the underdog won both games. I
think that ends with Tulane, which, yeah, that seems probable.
(17:47):
You know, I think this is a year where they
have you know, last year, the way the bracket was
set up, where you had the conference champions being higher
seeds and playing teams that were where they were probably
bigger point spreads. This year, the first two games have
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been close point spreads and I think we're fairly toss
up games in both cases. You know this is you know,
the next I think there's a decent possibility that next
week's games are outside of like a Texas Tech Oregon game. Maybe.
I think a lot of those games are gonna be
bigger point spreads, and I think you're gonna see I
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don't know that I'm gonna pick anyone other than maybe
Oregon maybe to advance, and even then probably not. It
just it feels like you're gonna it's gonna get chalkier
as the bracket goes, because you've got these teams that
are outside of the top four, outside of the top five,
that are a little more flawed, and that creates some
more high variant stuff where you know, you look at
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the Miami offense and the I mean, shoot, look at
either of the offenses on Friday night where they were
really mistake pro and teams are just making like just
idiotic mistakes and missed field goals today and drop passes
and all sorts of crazy stuff. All of that increases
the variance, which then you know, if it's a coin
flip game and you've got like huge error bars on
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it because you're making all sorts of horrendous mistakes that
really kind of you know, that makes it more likely
you're going to have those upsets. I would expect probably
fewer of those as we kind of go through the bracket.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, I was on the ninety seven to one yesterday
last night with Eury Buddy Murph Pat Murphy, and they
wanted to know my thoughts, Like, I haven't filled out
a bracket, but it's hard to go away from chalk.
It's either from whether the way I look at it,
are you going to go with Texas Tech or Indiana?
Like eventually that's like, to me the biggest decision and
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until we see otherwise. But I feel like the uh,
you get into these at least for a highest that
you get into this, so you're playing it Texas team
in Texas. That makes it a little bit more difficult.
And that's why when people are asking me today, you
know who should Ohio State want? Like, well, Texas A
and M is the lesser team. But do you want
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the lesser team in on their home in their home field,
home state or do you rather face a better team
on a truly neutral field. And when I say truly
neutral field, there will be more Ohio State fans than
Miami fans in the Cotton Bowl. So that's kind of
what you're choosing. And that's why in this game today,
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it was choosing either the better team or the Kyle Field,
and we both went with Miami because you know, you
still have to make plays and you still have to
avoid making mistakes and that's something that Texas A and
M has not been able to do. Miami lost a
couple of fumbles in this one, and we're able to
overcome that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, well that was that was also a someone has
to win this game game they will. There are no
more ties in football, so someone does have to win
the game. It was It was certainly a game that
I think whoever lost that game was going to look
back and go like, how did we possibly blow this game?
And there were points, you know when when Texas A
and M got the ball back after that fumble by Tony,
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I thought, oh, they're gonna do it. I can't believe it,
but they are going to get away with this one.
And then and then they didn't, and yeah, Miami finally
finally figured it out at the very end. It was
that reminded me a little bit of the twenty twenty
Big Ten Championship game where Ohio State Justin Fields has
like a bruised or broken thumb, it's all wrapped up.
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They're playing Northwestern, Trey Sermon is running the ball for
like twelve yards of carry and Ohio State's like, Nope,
we're gonna throw it. We are gonna throw it. And
then by the time they finally figured out, like you know,
Trey Sermon nevern't really being able to get him down
to the ground, Like they figured that out kind of
late second or early third quarter, and then he ran
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for three hundred and thirty one yards in that game.
So that felt a little like that with Mark Fletcher
was like Miami got there eventually. It took him about
fifty six minutes of gameplay or so, but they figured
it out eventually. So, uh, we should bring back this
one from Jordan Kapler. Uh, he'd like to if I
could make the case for A and M to advance
even after the loss, because sec in his Southern voice, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan,
(22:21):
is this thing along? Jordan? Can you hear me? Can
you hear me? Jordan, Jordan, Listen, listen, I know what
the scoreboard said Jordan. But but but come on, come on, Jordan,
it's it's Texas. There's no football. There's no state more
football than Texas, and in Texas is in the SEC,
and there's no conference more football than the SEZ. So
how can you possibly have a college football tournament? It
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had a team from Texas. Now you're gonna say what
about Texas Tech? No, no, no, Tech, that they are
not in the SEC. They don't count. It is Texas,
it is Texas ain't in the CON. The College Football
Committee left Texas out? Was that a miscarriage of justice?
I think we all know the answer to that. They
only lost three games and they play with conference. They
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play at the best conference, the deepest conference. It doesn't
mean more in the a CZ No, it does not.
It means more. We're in the SEC. How can you
have a football tournament and pretend it means something if
you don't have the team from the conference where it
means more. It's just math, Jordan.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You can't. You can't pretend, Tom, you can't pretend at all.
I mean, and why aren't we using the eye test?
Why are we using the eye tests? And instead of
some arbitrary scoreboard? Are you kidding me. Yes, you we've.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
All been at games where the scoreboard goes out. You
can't trust that. Come on, you've gotta you gotta listen.
And we all know hype on a hypothetical field. We
know Texas A and M wins that game one hundred
times out of one hundred. So the the real tragedy
this week Tony, is that both Oklahoma and Alabama couldn't
both advance. That's the real tragedy this weekend, tom You.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Put these two teams, you put Miami, Texas A and
M on a neutral field, M and one hundred times
out of one hundred, Texas A and A windsay game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, absolutely, hypothetically, absolutely they do. Yeah,
for sure. They had the they had the pressure of
Kyle Field, Miss rev was there. I mean, they've got
all those all those cadets with the drums and what
have you. Yeah, that's that's that's not a fair that's
not a fair thing to put on Texas A and M. No,
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absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
We have.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Uh oh. There was a lot of conversation about the
opening line for Ohio State Miami that looks like it's
about eight and a half. Is the opening line buck
Eyes by eight and a half. You know, I think
this is a maybe we should talk about the Miami
defense before we get too deep into the matchup with
Ohio State. But you know, this is when we were
talking about the fact that Ohio State was probably better
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off playing A and M than Miami. I think Miami
is capable of doing the things to beat Ohio State.
Miami is also capable of doing the things to lose
by thirty to Ohio State, Like that's absolutely a possibility.
But they're capable of doing the things that sort of
drag this into a you know, Indiana Big Ten Championship
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game kind of thing where you get enough pressure, you
get Julian staying off the spot, you don't give them
time to throw the ball, you don't give them time
to get the receivers open deep, you do some do
some stuff with the defensive line, and you can you know,
you beat a blocker here and there, and you make
it hard for Ohio State to run. And you've got
you know, enough skill position talent that you can make
things happen here and there, and maybe you make a
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big play on special teams like you can you can
paint the picture where Miami wins this Cotton Bowl game.
Watching Texas A and m against Texas and then watching
them in this game, it was like, there's no frickin
way there's That would have been a non competitive football
game because it's Ohio State. If Miami could run the
ball against Texas A and m Ohio State could, sure
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as heck run the ball against Texas A and M.
Miami had one of the worst and least explosive run
offenses in the nation this year. They were like one
hundred and thirtieth in runs of thirty yards or more.
Ohio State was not great in that area, but they
were like forty fifth, Like they were markedly better Ohio
State on a fast, dry track. Ohio State lights that
defense on fire and leaves it on their neighbor's porch
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like it is just that that's not like the Ohio
State could run the ball, and then once they could
run the ball, then they're gonna be able to throw
the ball, and then it's like whoop, Then you've got
you've got a big, big, big problem. So Miami I
think presents more of a challenge because I think their defense,
the defensive ends especially, but the injury of the defensive
line with Justin Scott and who was the defensive tackle
(26:45):
that got hurt right near the end of the game,
Moten like he had a nice game. The defensive line,
the defensive line had from Miami looked really good. The
secondary was you know, I mean this, I was okay.
I still have concerns about that secondary in a dry,
fast field against a better wide receiver unit than Texas
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A and M has, But you know, we'll get there
later on. We really didn't. Texas A and M really
didn't stress them in that area because their quarterback was
not good and the conditions were not great, and they
also couldn't run the ball. Yeah, I think Miami has
a much better chance to beat Ohiotate than Texas A
and M would. But you know, I also look at
eight and a half and go, yeah, yeah, I think
(27:29):
I could. I think that's a perfectly reasonable line for
this game.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I would agree. And then you look at this
Miami defense. Seven sacks of a mobile quarterback, but a
couple of those, I think you've ran himself into sacks
as well. But when we talk about Miami defense, we
talked about a key messador at Ruben Bain together, they
had four and a half sacks in this five and
a half tackles for loss. We know they're very capable.
I think those guys being very capable, they don't necessarily
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have to do a lot of tricks on a defensive line,
which kind of plays into Ohio State. That helps out
Ohio State. When the defensive line doesn't have to do
a bunch of tricks, they just rely on on skill
and it's like, Okay, if I'm just facing the guy
in front of me, this is very much. This is
easier for Ohio Ohio State to do. Now, your tack
will still have to hold up, which is asking a
(28:16):
lot against Miami's pass rushers. But yeah, this was This
was a very impressive outing by them. But I need
to see a more. I guess we'll watch the Notre
Dame game. We'll watch some other games. I want to
see a like a composed quarterback, how do they operate
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against Miami, and one that is playing in some more
ideal conditions because watching Marcel Reed try to throw in
the wind when he's he's already thrown at a thousand
miles per hour no matter where the ball is going,
and it feels like he's feeling the bruge before it's
even there. So what does a more composed quarterback look
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like something that I'll be watching when we venture into
these other games.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, I was just looking. Marcel Reid was a sixty
two percent percent passer on the season on the whole,
so I thought, oh boy, it was bet it was
worse than that, because it felt worse than that in
this game. He was actually a sixty four percent passer
in this game, twenty five for thirty nine to thirty seven.
And you know, we're talking mostly to an audience of
Ohio State fans who was what spent the whole season
watching the quarterback completely eighty percent of his passes if
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you're used to that, Like man, that was pain full, painful.
And Carson Beck completed seventy percent of his passes, but
it was fourteen of twenty four, one hundred and three yards,
one touchdown on like a little bit of a like
a flip about three inches forward and but no picks,
and that was that was really the difference for him,
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super chet for Mike Freno. Why couldn't we have last
year's bracket rules guaranteed run to the semi finals? Yes,
under last year's bracket rules, Ohio State would have been
the fifth seed because the top four spots were guaranteed
to the top four conference champion, So that would put
Ohio State fifth, playing number twelve James Madison, and then
in the quarterfinals they would have played number four two
lane in the in the second round, which you know
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a first round by but then playing Miami in the
second round that is you get a buye and it's
still a marketing, you know, a marketly harder at even
though you're a two seed instead of a five seed.
This very much feels like they have clearly not quite
gotten the whole process right in terms of the seedings
and the rankings, because ang Ohio State would much much
much rather be playing a you know, the number six
(30:33):
Ole Miss team in the round two rather than number
ten Miami, and then you know, you're the number two
team and you got to go play Georgia after that.
George is probably happier that they're playing Ole Miss than Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You mentioned two lane. Right now, they're fourth and two
trying to pick up they're moving the ball. This feels
like a sixty three thirty five, sixty three twenty eight
kind of final where everybody's scoring, it's just two Lane
can't score enough to keep up.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, super tip from Murphy Saraphino. What if a percentage
chance Miami scores more than ten points against Ohio State?
Just don't see it more than ten. I think that's
better than fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't see them scoring twenty without scoring on defense
or special teams, but scoring more than ten. I'm probably
gonna pick Miami to score more than ten. This is
I will absolutely I refuse to be held to this.
I will refuse to I will absolutely change my mind
several times as we take in more more Miami football,
consume more Miami football between now and then. But you know,
(31:35):
at twenty seven seventeen, twenty eight, seventeen, thirty one, seventeen
kind of score that feels maybe about right, thirty one,
you know, twenty eight thirteen something something in that neighborhood
feels about right for this one where Ohio State wins,
probably covers. But you know, I don't. I don't think
(31:56):
this is gonna be forty two to three or any
thing like that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
No, And I do wonder can Ohio State avoid giving
up short fields through turnovers or you know whatever failed
forth down at the forty five or something like that
where you are helping Miami out, and I do wonder,
so do you stay maybe non aggressive that way and
and force Miami to go seventy five yards eighty yards
(32:24):
every single time they have the ball, because if they do,
chances are that, yeah, twenty one points or twenty points
would win it for you. So I'm interested to see, like,
do you with this Ohio State defense, do you choose
to just remain a little a little conservative on offense,
even though we talk about once you get to the playoffs,
(32:44):
you got to swing away and you gotta do this,
you gotta do that. It's like, well, if I only
need to score twenty, how much swinging away do I
need to do? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
But you but you need to score twenty, so I
think you can't. You can't go, well, we need to
score twenty. So if we have ten at halftime, we're
right on track. Like you want to. You want to
score twenty four points, twenty eight points, and you want
to be in cruise control in the third and fourth quarter,
not scrambling to get to twenty eight points in the
(33:14):
third and fourth quarter again, we'll see I reserve my
right to change my mind on this a couple times,
but I think you're gonna see a little bit more
of an aggressive Ohio State offense, just because I think
they feel like they can trust Julian saying at this point,
you know, this is not Week one against Texas where
they're trying to protect Julian saying and not have him,
(33:34):
not put him in bad spots. If they feel like
they can hold up in terms of the past, you know,
pass pro and not letting McKim, Messidora and Rubon Bain
get all over Julian saying, then you have opportunities to
win the game down the field, and I think they'll
have the opportunity to run the ball at least. Okay,
against Miami, I think they'll be. I think they'll be
(33:56):
a little more aggressive than you know, trying to They're
not gonna sit back. I can try and win this
game seventeen to ten, like they're gonna be. They're gonna
be a little more aggressive than that. We have a
super chat and watching this, Mike Frino says, do you
think this Miami offense is the first team he gets
seventeen against? Ohio State. I mean, yeah, maybe. I mean
(34:17):
it's you're playing indoors.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know, it's a it's a no wins, no rain,
no anything. I maybe, I mean, I I would feel
I think there's a better chance that Miami scores seventeen
points than Miami scores three points. You know, I think
I think you're gonna They're gonna get to somewhere in
(34:41):
that ten thirteen seventeen kind of range. All it takes
is one Ohio State turnover deep in there, you know,
deep in their own end, or malec Hi Toni returning,
you know, a punt return or something like that, Like
you can, I can. I can see plenty of ways
Miami gets to seventeen points in this game. And this
is not a game where Ryan Day is going to
(35:01):
be trying to prove a point like this is going
to be a game where if Ohio State's up thirty
one to ten, Ohio State is going to get very
conservative and just you know, get the get the game
over with and move on to the next one, and
don't put a bunch of stuff on tape, and don't
put a bunch of guys at risk. You know, I
think you could There's a lot of ways I could
see Miami getting to seventeen. I don't. I don't see
(35:22):
Ohio State shutting Miami.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Out in this one, no, I think with This is
also the first time Miami was held under twenty points
this season, So good job there. But also when you
get it when your best offensive weapon is your slot receiver.
And we saw the way that Indiana attacked the runs
of Styles Junior in the Big Ten Championship game, but
(35:45):
they did it downfield. Malachai Toni is not necessarily the
downfield threat. But do they change that up? Is this
the guy that well, we just need to make sure
we tackle him at the line of scrimmage and then
it's like, oh, then he just went, you know, ran
right by you. If you're focused on that, remember last
year at Oregon when they don't throw the ball beyond
the sticks and then suddenly they started throwing the ball
(36:07):
beyond the sticks and every Ohigh State cornerback was getting
lit up. So the fact that you have had teams
successfully attack Lorenzo Styles Junior and he's been there, the
coverage has been there for the most part. It's just
they've been making some really good plays against him. But
the fact that you have offenses that we've got a
(36:27):
week to figure out what to do. What are we
gonna do, Well, we should attack number three and if
number six comes in, we'll also attack him. Everything else
we're just gonna have to piecemeal and figure out what
we can do from play to play. But those two guys,
we're gonna have to go after him. And then how
effective is malc I Tony and that kind of change
where he becomes maybe more of a downfield guy than
(36:48):
a gadget guy, and we'll see. I just you know,
in terms of seventeen points, if you're in the playoffs,
you should be able to score seventeen points. I think
just that's three plays, you know, basically that's just making
three plays and compounding that into some other drives and
(37:09):
things like that. So I'm not boy. But then to
say yeah, I think, you know, I could see seventeen points,
it's like, well, I mean maybe, but you know, how
much help do you need? Again? You know, with this
Ohio State defense, where are you going to are these
two seventy five yard touchdown drives and a sixty five
(37:32):
yard field goal drive? And if so, that's pretty impressive.
If you're doing that, then you might be having more
success than Ohio State knows, you know, is accustomed to,
and so seventeen becomes more than that. But the fact
that plenty of teams have found the opportunity and nobody's
done it yet, And this is not the best offense
Ohio State has faced. There's some good skill there, but
(37:54):
it's not it's not going to be the best offense
they face. Maybe the best offensive line. I think, you know,
you can probably throw Indiana up there as well, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I mean Indiana against this Miami team, I'm taking Indiana
by at least a touchdown. It just like this is
this isn't you know. Indiana is a team that does
not have the flashy high end talent necessarily, But it's
just it's just a much better team overall. Like it's
a much better coach team overall. You don't have. I mean,
(38:28):
it has been a while since we've gotten a good
Mario Crystal bowling and the clock management in the first half,
they burned two timeouts early. They've got the ball they're
trying to drive down before halftime, and they burn a
bunch of time instead of clocking the ball, they get
a first down and burn like nine seconds that they
didn't need to with like twenty seconds left and cost
(38:49):
themselves a chance at a more makeable field goal. It
was just you've got you've got that stuff too, like,
you know, and all this stuff they did. They had
a kicker that missed a bunch of field goals. It
was windy. We understand it will not be windy inside
Jerry World, but there's there's a bunch of just sort
of little stuff there was. You know, Miami has the usual,
(39:10):
Oh it's the U and we're going to be tough
and we're gonna have swagger, and then you know, and
then you have guys who like they had a couple
that should have been like very clear, like very clear
fifteen yard penalties that weren't called for, like hits way
out of bounds. It's you know, it is a you know,
it's a Miami team that is going to make some
(39:31):
mistakes and you're probably going to have a false start
or two you're going to have a delay of game
or two Mario Cristo Baul is going to burn your
timeouts way too early, and then you're gonna be stuck
and you're taking delay game with because of that, you're
gonna have a bunch of that little stuff. And I think,
you know, on the whole, Ohio State is a more
talented team than the Miami I don't think that's going
to be a kind of a controversial statement. And I
(39:53):
think Ohio State is probably a more complete team than Miami,
and Ohio State's probably going to have what's the crowd
for this seventy five twenty five? So, I mean it's
gonna be it's gonna be a heavily pro Ohio State
crowd down there. So and frankly, this is a game
that might not be like the stadium might not be
(40:13):
full because I think there were probably a lot of
Texas A and M fans that probably bought tickets when
this bracket came out. Oh boy, and nope, thank you
for thank you for playing though, And so I think
this is gonna be a pretty heavily pro Ohio State crowd.
And I think you're gonna have, you know, it's an
opportunity for Ohio State to, you know, potentially just it
(40:35):
just takes one or two false starts to lay of
games whatever it is for Miami to get them off
schedule because I don't it is not going to be
as easy for them to move the ball against Ohio
State as it was for them against Texas A and M.
And it was not real easy for them to move
ball against Texas A and M.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Today, tu Lane keeping the fight a lot on the
drive charts for this game. So Texas A and M
had five drives of a thirty yards, Miami had two,
and they had three missed field goal drives. None of
them were over thirty yards. Those drives were four plays
negative four yards, seven plays for twenty four yards, four
(41:12):
plays for three yards. Their two drives over thirty were
nine for seventy two and six for eighty six. And
those were their two scoring drives basically, so they drove
the ball twice, scored on both of those. And Texas
A and M had drives of sixty four or sixty
five that was a missed that was the block field goal,
sixty seven that was the made field goal, and then
(41:35):
seventy at the end, which was the interception. So Miami
didn't need to do much in this one. And you
credit the Texas A and M defense, and you know,
we look at this if like, well, if Texas A
and M could do this. But again, I think I
think it is okay to chalk quite a bit of this,
some of this up to the conditions. It was windy.
We talk about it all the time when we're making
(41:57):
excuses for Ohio State in the passing game. It's like
it is, it does impact the offense. And so we
saw two offenses which are which you have already sort
of compromised throwing the ball, and so then you incorporate
win in this. And they talked about Marcel Reid how
he likes to throw the ball downfield, good luck in
(42:17):
these kinds of situations because it's tough. And then Carson
Back was I'll just I'll live behind a line of
scrimmage and we will live to fight another day.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Mike Frano says. And it was the first team to
not score a touchdown in the twelve team playoff era. Yeah,
that's I mean, that was a that was a uniquely
bad performance in so many ways. You know, scoreless at
the half and what three nothing after three quarters? That
was that was really incredible, and it was it felt
(42:48):
like there were there were plenty of times that you thought, okay,
now they've now they've figured it out. Now, they've you know,
they've got the ball across midfield. Texas A and M
had a couple drives right off the bat where you thought, okay,
they you know, they got into Miami territory twice, to
the Miami forty three and the Miami thirty one on
their first two drives, then got to the Miami five
on their fourth drive. So they're in Miami territory three times,
(43:12):
inside the red zone once and it came away with
zero points and it was like, oh boy, that is
you You see that, and it's just like already, I'm
sure every Texas A and M fan was thinking this
might not be our day because if you if you
do that that often sometimes you know, sometimes you win.
And the lesson everyone takes from it as well, it
(43:33):
was a matter of time before they broke through because
they were just gonna be able to do that all day.
And in a game like that where you're playing a
decent defense, the lesson is that you'd better get your
points when you have an opportunity to get your points.
If you're down in the ring. You know, if you're
down in their territory three times, you'd better come out
with double digit points out of it at the very least,
you know, twice inside the you know, basically the thirty
(43:54):
you should be scoring a touchdown and kicking a field
goal there at the very least, and you come away
with zero points. That you know, you saw that with
Ohio State in the second half of the of the
Big Ten championship game where they're inside the red zone
twice and come away with zero points. And it was
a missed field goal and a fourth down stop. That was,
(44:14):
you know, a an overturned on replay fourth downstop because
it was that close. But that's you were in the
season where that's the margin for error you've got. You've
got to play, You've got to really be on your
p's and q's because just those little things, those little mistakes,
those little those times you come up just that much short.
That's that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Texas saying them in the red zone three times came
away with three points.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That is rough. That is rough, boy, And and I
think everyone it's it's great. Everyone is getting a real
sense for Miami fans right now.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeahs or so.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Lots of Miami fans telling us the narrative was Miami
was gonna get smoked by Texas A and m friends.
We picked we both picked Miami to beat Texas A
and m I can assure you, like I don't understand
the Miami thing where it's like, yeah, well, notes to you,
we're so much better. You know, you don't know you
were seriously legitimately like you know the gift I posted
(45:17):
this gift on Twitter, but you know the gift of
the Yankees fans in the outfield where they're just like going, ooh,
that's every Miami fan. That is every Miami fan on
the internet. Like it is just the dumbest fan base.
Like we do these shows where we preview, you know,
we'll watch another team's game before they play the Ohio State,
and the comments are like universally like oh, well you know, here's.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Here's what you know. I like this.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I agree with this. Uh what about this? You might
not know this. Miamians, you don't know nothing. They go,
they're going to unbelievable wide receivals. It's not just mencha,
I told you they got all these guys. They're unbelievable.
And it's like every fan base you will find people
girl like this is the worst fan base like, this
is the worst fan base on Twitter, this is the
(46:03):
worst fan base online whatever, every fan base says. Miami
fans are like the worst. I talked to someone who
is at the game today was like, I cannot wait.
I hope Ohio State beats Miami by fifty because Miami
fans are the worst. It's like, yeah, it is the
And the best part, Tony is how unjustified it's been.
It's like every Miami fan lapsed into a coma in
(46:26):
the first quarter of the two thousand and three Fiesta.
Bal And just woke up and is so sure they
are still running the college football world? Tony? Are they
running the college football world? I've been into coma since
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Fill me in, Well, Tom, do you know about fan fiction?
Are you aware of this concept?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yes, that's basically what we're talking about. Yes, that's what
it's kind of like, where they've taken the late eighties
to in the nineties and then the early two thousand
and two thousand and one, and they've created their own
verse basically, and they've spread it out and they've done
(47:09):
all of these like fan fiction thoughts and imaginations and
sometimes Tom, people can get lost in the reality that
they create. It's very unfortunate where you just you have
nothing outside, so everything is internal and you start to
(47:32):
you know, from what I've read on these things, the
journals of things, where these Miami fans can sometimes just
get lost in their own world of make believe and
not like mister Rogers, where it's a thing where they're
helping children. This helps nobody. This is actually this is
(47:52):
impacts children negative way, impacts adults in a negative way.
And that's not all Miami fans. Tom, would you say
eighty I don't you know, you know, I don't think
it's maybe ninety ninety two. I don't know. But we
all welcome all of the Miami fans. Thank you for
the comments and the chats, and I'm sure we will
(48:12):
have more comments and more chats because we will have
plenty of more Miami shows to come as we look
over some games to to recap and rewatch over the
course of the season.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yes, for those Miami fans who have been in a coma,
you are now in the ACC, not the Big East.
Is the ACC any good at football? It sure isn't. Wow,
I bet you've won a bunch of counch of conference championships.
Since you've been there, well, friends, I have bad news.
You may want to sit down. None none, since you
joined the ACC, is the ACC good? Nope? Sure isn't.
Thanks for asking Mike forre you know, super chat, I'm
(48:47):
going to drop and go watch the Brawl the While
to recommend once everyone has done here, to go watch
that instead of the old miss scrimmage game. Yes, Brawl
the Wild is a phenomenal Montana Montana State game. It's
at Montana State this week. I saw snow on the
field on the pregame stuff, So yeah, that should be
a phenomenal game that is worth exploring. When we wrap
(49:09):
up here, which might be might be relatively.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Soon, Yeah, relatively soon, watch a couple of games, Watch
Cats Grizz, watch the CFP and cf TWU. Lane can
keep fighting and try to make this close. We will see.
I'm not expecting a Boise State, Oklahoma two thousand and
six type of situation, but you can always hope. But
(49:33):
so let's see here. Thank you for the super chats, everybody.
I'm wondering, then, is there anything else that we need
to touch on before we go? Because we are gonna
have plenty of Miami talk throughout the course of this
next week. We will watch Notre Dame, the Miami Notre
(49:54):
Dame game, We'll watch a couple of others and see
how our thoughts in Miami change. And again we picked Miami.
So thank You're welcome, Miami fans. We believed in you
guys when nobody else did. We believed in the Hurricanes.
We were there, We were fighting right alongside you. We
were throwing eggs right alongside you and Kyle Field today
(50:16):
getting citations and all of those things. We enjoyed this.
I love the game. I thought it was fantastic. I
know a lot of people complained about it. I thought
this is a game that anything can happen, and any
play could be the one that won it and or
the one that lost it. And then we finally saw
that happen at the end.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yes, yes, so there you go, Miami football. Is the
you back Tony Well? I guess well, they got double digits,
so sure, crank up the fog machine.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
They're back against you against They're back against the SEC
if that means anything. So then are we ready to wrap?
Do we want to go ahead and wrap?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think we can wrap.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
All right, let's wrap the Thank you all for tuning in.
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Wow do you want Tom? Do you want to read that? Chad?
(51:23):
Ah See, this is what we get for believing.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
There we go. All right, so Armando says, let's go Canes.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
So yeah, there you go. The gull has been laid down.
That's fine, they did, and so they continue to find us. Armando,
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(51:50):
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