November 19, 2025 • 15 mins
Ohio State Coach Ryan Day and Seniors Reflect Before Senior Day
Join hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr on the Buckeye Weekly Podcast as they recap Ohio State head coach Ryan Day's comments and insights from a selection of the team's seniors following practice. Hear updates on injuries, the development of young receivers, and reflections on leadership from key players like Caleb Downs and Sonny Styles. Additionally, the discussion sheds light on the mentality and preparation ahead of the upcoming Michigan Week, insights into the running game's progression, and personal growth experiences shared by seniors as their college football careers approach an end. Whether you're a Buckeyes fan or a football enthusiast, this episode offers a detailed glimpse into the team's dynamic and mindset as they gear up for the season's final challenges.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Opening
00:10 Midweek Interview Surprises
00:36 Player Updates and Injury News
01:10 Young Receivers and Practice Insights
05:00 Senior Day Reflections
06:27 Lessons Learned and Player Development
09:11 Matt Patricia's Impact
11:40 Running Game Improvements
15:18 Final Thoughts and Outro
Join hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr on the Buckeye Weekly Podcast as they recap Ohio State head coach Ryan Day's comments and insights from a selection of the team's seniors following practice. Hear updates on injuries, the development of young receivers, and reflections on leadership from key players like Caleb Downs and Sonny Styles. Additionally, the discussion sheds light on the mentality and preparation ahead of the upcoming Michigan Week, insights into the running game's progression, and personal growth experiences shared by seniors as their college football careers approach an end. Whether you're a Buckeyes fan or a football enthusiast, this episode offers a detailed glimpse into the team's dynamic and mindset as they gear up for the season's final challenges.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Opening
00:10 Midweek Interview Surprises
00:36 Player Updates and Injury News
01:10 Young Receivers and Practice Insights
05:00 Senior Day Reflections
06:27 Lessons Learned and Player Development
09:11 Matt Patricia's Impact
11:40 Running Game Improvements
15:18 Final Thoughts and Outro
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tony? All the way in today, I was emotionally preparing
myself for this is going to be the last midweek
Wednesday night interviews of the season, which is always a
little jarring, and then we found out, surprise, we'll get
him next week as well. They're sort of mixing things
up for Michigan Week, which I guess mixing things up
from how they've recently handled things with the Michigan Week
and making Michigan Week exactly like a normal week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Normal week, No big deal, what are you hearing? What
have you heard?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, we did talk with Ryan Day and some of
the seniors, some of the fourth year juniors. One fourth
year junior, Carson Tinsman. So he's not walking for Senior
Day has not made his decision on whether he's coming
back or not, but that's generally Yeah, that decent idea
that he's coming back. But yeah, I will not walk
on Senior Day. So that's one piece of news, the
(00:58):
news that you've come here for. Or uh, there's right.
Ryan Day talked about well he was asked about Jeremiah
Smith and cart Ell Tait, and I think the quote
is something about, you know, they're working hard to get back,
So Tom, I don't think they're gonna play it, because
he also said he was asked about the young receivers
and said they're gonna have some more opportunities this week
(01:19):
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, yes, that's one of those things where it's like
you could take that however you'd like to take that.
They're working hard to get back. Are they going to
be back? They're working hard. The young receivers will have
likely more will have more opportunities this week, more than
ever before. He didn't say that more than they have
up to this point in their careers. Yes, one more opportunity,
(01:43):
one more snap would be more opportunities. So that feels
a lot like he's maybe learning something from current Lieutenant
Governor of Ohio Jim Tressel in terms of giving an answer,
and then you'll go back and listen to it and
it's like, I'm not sure, like there was a lot
of talking but not a lot of actual information conveyed, which, yeah,
(02:04):
I mean, he's improved in a lot of other areas
of the job of why wouldn't that be one of
the areas where he's improved over the years, Senator two
point zero, Lieutenant governor's position maybe open in twenty forty
eight or so, and if he's looking for it an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Some other injury notes of notes CJ. Donaldson full practice,
had a good day, Julian saying, had a full week
of practice. He's fine. I don't believe Joshua Padilla was
asked about it. I did say he had his pads.
He had his pads off because he had him on
in practice. Yeah, and he was carrying them around as
if he is, you know, a body with pads on.
(02:42):
You know, I don't know if he's.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
A practicing player incredible information, just a.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Cosplayer, but he did, he was dressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think, if you're going to read anything into anything,
the fact that there were direct answers on some guys
and not direct answers on other guys might be where
you know, this is this is the dog that didn't
bark in Sherlock Holmes where you you know, well, if
if you're okay with talking about injury updates on some players,
(03:11):
but another it's we have a policy not to talk
about it. Well, so you know, there's your answer, Fishball,
there's your answer, fish Bold.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes, so those are the injury notes that I had.
One interesting thing, not talking with anybody, watching Caleb Downs
and Devin Sanchez working on a blocking sled while practice
is over and interviews are going on. They had the
protective helmets on and those two are just working and
(03:40):
on one point, like Caleb Downs doesn't need to do that,
Devin Sanchez probably does, but there's Caleb Downs right there
with them, just an example of I think the leadership
and the trying to pay it forward and the desire
to be at your best at all times from Caleb
Downs and then also Devin Sanchez.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right and you know that that's something that we hear
him talked about as almost being a coach on this
team in a lot of ways. And that's true on
the field in terms of helping helping guys before plays,
during plays, all that kind of stuff, but also off
the field in the film room, all that kind of stuff.
And this is an opportunity. I think, you know, Caleb
(04:15):
Downs would like to win another national championship. I think
that's you know, he didn't specifically say that to me tonight.
I sort of inferred that from literally everything else. But
I think he is, you know, that's probably a fair
thing to say that he would like to win another
national championship, and Devin Sanchez is you know, a significant
piece of what they are going to need because they
are going to get tested by teams with better passing
(04:36):
offenses moving forward. So the more you can see Devin
Sanchez improve in his game because as a true freshman man,
oh man, is that learning curve? You know, it goes
up pretty steep because there's a lot of the first
time and then if you can do something the first
time or the second time and then learn from what
you didn't do right and you can improve and then
it's better the next time. Boy, that makes a big difference.
(04:57):
And that can that is a process that can happen
pretty quickly for you on guys.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So there is some seniors, some Senior Day festivities going on.
There will be a bunch of seniors. One of them
will be will Kes Merrick who said, you know, how
do you want the senior class to be remembered? Said,
I would like to be remembered as the first team
to go back to back.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what's so interesting is we haven't really heard
anyone use that phrase all season. You know, they talk about,
you know, need to get better or that kind of stuff.
I heard that from Sunny Styles tonight. I think I
might have heard that from Taiwan Malone tonight. So you know,
we can say this all the time. When we hear
the same thing coming out of a bunch of different players,
(05:36):
that means that's what's getting talked about in this building
this year. And you know, Sonny Styles talked about it
in terms of, you know, they still have all these
goals in front of them that they want to beat.
He said that team up north, they want to beat
Michigan in surprise, surprise, they wouldn't win the Big Ten.
They we'll get to Indianapolis and win the Big Ten.
And he said, we want to be the first team
to win back to back national championships. And that's you know,
(06:01):
the good news is you're halfway there. You've already done
it once. So and the guys who were here were
a part of that. But now you're you know a
lot of these guys taking a bigger role and they
want to be the sort of you know, the key
players as opposed to maybe more role players in some
of their cases.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's always interesting this night, the final one before the
senior day, whatever year it is. Every year when you
talk to these guys, it's always like, how fast is
the time fly turns out? It flies by a lot.
And so that was asked of everybody. I was asking
a couple of guys, what's the toughest lesson you've learned
in your four years of college? Carson Hensman said, let
(06:37):
me see here, don't be late for workouts.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I bet that's one that comes with a very specifically,
that was kidding Curry, same the same, the message, the same.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
He also credited mc muratti for, you know, largely making
him into the player that he is in terms of
being able to be than shaped and formed by Larry Johnson.
But yes, don't be late for workouts. I asked, well, Cosmeric,
what's the biggest lesson you learn? Is like every workout,
every rep matters, everything you do matters, and it's really
(07:12):
difficult to learn that and apply just understand that. And
I said, you know, how long did it take you
to learn is the Top's like I'm still learning it.
Everybody's still learning it. That Like every rep is an opportunity.
Every rep matters. Every You're just like, don't take any
of it for granted, because it all means something that
is all applicable to life beyond football and everything. So
(07:33):
it's interesting to talk to. But your player is about
things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, and they grade everything here. Every rep in practice
gets graded, it gets reviewed, gets graded. You get you
watch film of yourself in practice, You watch film of
yourself in games when it is garbage time, there is
no such thing as garbage time. If you were onio
statistically Pretyman stat systems, absolutely this garbage time once you
hit twenty eight points boom, Nope, you know there is
(08:00):
no garbage time. When you're on the team, there is
no The expectation remains four to six A to B.
Whether the score is seventy to nothing or twenty four
to twenty three with the opposing team driving it is,
it does not matter everything. As you said, everything matters,
and that's true of every rep during Matt drills in
which is February, every rep during spring ball when it's
(08:22):
you know, guys are just figuring it out and you're
just sort of you know, you've got the guy who
STI trying to figure out where the locker room is,
Like all of that stuff matters. And that's the kind
of like really nitpicky attention to detail that that's not
the norm everywhere. We talked a couple of weeks ago
about about Max Clayer and how he came from Purdue
and Perdue. There's you know, it's a Big ten school.
(08:42):
This is you know, this is a school where you've
got fifty thousand people in the stadium on Saturday and
all that kind of stuff. The standard is different there,
and so when you come to Ohio State you sort
of have to adjust to like, oh, well, what used
to be good enough is no longer good enough. And
that's you know, can gos, you've leveled up. It's you know,
it's like leveling up in a video. Gad, guess what
(09:04):
the next boss is going to be a little bit
more difficult than the lost one?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, Sonny Styles, Oh yeah, Sonny Styles is asked about
Matt Patricia and what he learned from it, and the
thing that I took most of them from this is
so he's so easy to learn from and right away
when he saw how he was teaching, he's like, oh,
we're going to get so much smarter, and it's just interesting,
like some to see the feedback like this is everybody
(09:32):
thinks like you know, I stually does so many different things,
and to here Sonny Styles is like he teaches us
so so so easily, Like how can you not get
complicated at that point? Like when when you're a good teacher,
it makes it easier to learn and any walk of life.
But just to hear Sonny Style's be like, oh, we're
going to get smarter.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. It's every time you hear people talk about Matt Patricia,
you know, I don't know. I don't know if Matt
Patricia is headed back to the NFL after this year.
You're going to stick around for five more years? Who knows.
Every time you hear people talk about Matt Patricia, it's like,
my dude, you are in the perfect place for what
you know. This is exactly what you were good at
this right here, and you know, working with players who
(10:15):
are this talented, he knows how to take advantage of that.
He has the knowledge set to you know, he has
done his ten thousand hours you know, coaching defense, so
he knows, you know, he's got the answers to all
the different you know, all the different challenges he may
you know, may be posed to him, and he has
the players here to capitalize on that and to be
(10:35):
able to do Okay, well I wanted to do this.
Do I have a guy who's fast enough to get
from point A to point B to do this sort
of complicated thing. Why? Yes, I have seven of them. So,
you know, this feels like he is in such a
perfect place. And we keep saying this every time we
talk about it. He sure seems like he's loving life here.
And we'll see. I I think there is a you know,
(10:59):
I came into this year expecting, you know, well NFL guy, well,
you know, might be one year and back off the NFL,
like it was with Chip Kelly last year. The more
we're around here and the more we hear people talk
about what he's like behind the scenes, the more I think, boy,
I don't know, A, he's in a really good spot.
I don't know, you know, why would you give that up?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah? You spend a year studying the game in the
college game, and then you spend a year succeeding to
this point in the college game. Although the players will
tell you they haven't won anything yet and every Wednesday
when we're here, we say he's the last guy to
leave again. Tonight he was the last player or coach
to be on the field, He was the last one
to walk through to the doors to the offices and
just seems to be having the time of his life.
(11:40):
The last thing for me, I asked Will kes Merrick
and Carson Hinsman, how do you know that the running
game is better? And it's not just because of the
opponents you faced, And Carson Hinsman said, we see it
in practice. You see the offense. You see that the
running backs are seeing things better.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that a concern about the defense?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Trist got to go, But they're all seeing the running
backs get better. And I said, what does that do
for you mentally? Is like it's amazing. Makes you feel
so much better when you know the blocks are going
to be used properly. And Will kas Merik said the
same thing, like they know that to this point now
now as long as they're holding their blocks, they have
(12:20):
faith that the running backs are going to see them.
And I think that's just part of the growth of
Ryan da has talked about all season long.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well, and this goes back to what I was talking
about with Devin Sanchez earlier. These are true freshman running backs.
So guess what These are guys who are seeing exponentially
more reps in practice and in games. You know, the
number of reps are seeing in practice is growing exponentially,
you know, month by month at this point. So yeah,
you would expect big growth from those guys as the
season goes on, and it sounds like you're seeing it.
(12:48):
A couple quick things from Sonny Styles. This is something
he said a couple of times, which is, you know,
another one of these this is these are words that
are being said behind that center black wall right there.
If you cut corners, someone's going to get you. Like
it's it's you know, you can you can cut corners
now and maybe it doesn't catch up with you right now,
but it will catch up with you, he said. He
talked about, you know, coming in as a safety, he said,
(13:09):
great experience. He knew it was not going to last forever.
He knew he was going to outgrow safety, but the
experience at safety was very beneficial to him, you know, frankly,
just probably having the reps on the field and playing
rather than you know, doing the Javante Jean Baptiste thing
where you're trying to grow, you know, physically, eat enough
peanut butter sandwich used to grow into the next position
group up. I think he benefited a lot from that.
(13:30):
He sounded like he really enjoyed it, but you knew
learned a lot from it, but knew it was only
gonna last so long.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Like I said, I came into six four two twenty,
I knew I wasn't going to stay a safety forever.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then Tylan Malone said, you know,
he of course came from Ole Miss, where he played baseball.
He was asked about, you know, this sort of like
viral video of him heading over home run. He's like, oh,
which one was that I had a lot of home runs?
Which when you look at him, it's like, yeah, I
bet you did. But he he said, you know, he
(13:59):
came into this year really focused on what did he
need you to get better? Because he's you know, the
being a baseball player at Ole Miss. You know that.
You know, we talked for you over and over with him, like, hey,
you're probably a little behind because you weren't focused solely
on football. He knew coming in this year, Okay, you're
running out of time, So now you gotta, you know,
(14:19):
you really gotta. This is your chance, this is your
last opportunity. And he came in and said he really
was focused on what he needed to get better, talking
to coach Patricia, talking to Larry Johnson about Okay, what
do I need to do to improve and like very
clearly he is he might win one of the most
improved or biggest, biggest uh, you know, most outperformed expectations
this year.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, and this is what his third year without baseball. Yeah,
so it's not unusual that it would take you three
years to like imagine he's like a red shirt sophomore
at this point where it's like, okay, now, but he's
he was just a guy, and he's playing before the season,
he's playing in blowouts and you know, he's just occupied
(15:00):
reps and now he's occupying the offensive line. And he's
one of the more pleasant surprises. He's what needed to
happen for this defensive line, the interior especially. I don't
think anybody expected him to start and then also to
do well while starting, And yeah, he's been one of
the best surprises for the Buckeyes this year.
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tony? All the way in today, I was emotionally preparing
myself for this is going to be the last midweek
Wednesday night interviews of the season, which is always a
little jarring, and then we found out, surprise, we'll get
him next week as well. They're sort of mixing things
up for Michigan Week, which I guess mixing things up
from how they've recently handled things with the Michigan Week
and making Michigan Week exactly like a normal week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Normal week, No big deal, what are you hearing? What
have you heard?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, we did talk with Ryan Day and some of
the seniors, some of the fourth year juniors. One fourth
year junior, Carson Tinsman. So he's not walking for Senior
Day has not made his decision on whether he's coming
back or not, but that's generally Yeah, that decent idea
that he's coming back. But yeah, I will not walk
on Senior Day. So that's one piece of news, the
(00:58):
news that you've come here for. Or uh, there's right.
Ryan Day talked about well he was asked about Jeremiah
Smith and cart Ell Tait, and I think the quote
is something about, you know, they're working hard to get back,
So Tom, I don't think they're gonna play it, because
he also said he was asked about the young receivers
and said they're gonna have some more opportunities this week
(01:19):
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, yes, that's one of those things where it's like
you could take that however you'd like to take that.
They're working hard to get back. Are they going to
be back? They're working hard. The young receivers will have
likely more will have more opportunities this week, more than
ever before. He didn't say that more than they have
up to this point in their careers. Yes, one more opportunity,
(01:43):
one more snap would be more opportunities. So that feels
a lot like he's maybe learning something from current Lieutenant
Governor of Ohio Jim Tressel in terms of giving an answer,
and then you'll go back and listen to it and
it's like, I'm not sure, like there was a lot
of talking but not a lot of actual information conveyed, which, yeah,
(02:04):
I mean, he's improved in a lot of other areas
of the job of why wouldn't that be one of
the areas where he's improved over the years, Senator two
point zero, Lieutenant governor's position maybe open in twenty forty
eight or so, and if he's looking for it an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Some other injury notes of notes CJ. Donaldson full practice,
had a good day, Julian saying, had a full week
of practice. He's fine. I don't believe Joshua Padilla was
asked about it. I did say he had his pads.
He had his pads off because he had him on
in practice. Yeah, and he was carrying them around as
if he is, you know, a body with pads on.
(02:42):
You know, I don't know if he's.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
A practicing player incredible information, just a.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Cosplayer, but he did, he was dressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think, if you're going to read anything into anything,
the fact that there were direct answers on some guys
and not direct answers on other guys might be where
you know, this is this is the dog that didn't
bark in Sherlock Holmes where you you know, well, if
if you're okay with talking about injury updates on some players,
(03:11):
but another it's we have a policy not to talk
about it. Well, so you know, there's your answer, Fishball,
there's your answer, fish Bold.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes, so those are the injury notes that I had.
One interesting thing, not talking with anybody, watching Caleb Downs
and Devin Sanchez working on a blocking sled while practice
is over and interviews are going on. They had the
protective helmets on and those two are just working and
(03:40):
on one point, like Caleb Downs doesn't need to do that,
Devin Sanchez probably does, but there's Caleb Downs right there
with them, just an example of I think the leadership
and the trying to pay it forward and the desire
to be at your best at all times from Caleb
Downs and then also Devin Sanchez.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right and you know that that's something that we hear
him talked about as almost being a coach on this
team in a lot of ways. And that's true on
the field in terms of helping helping guys before plays,
during plays, all that kind of stuff, but also off
the field in the film room, all that kind of stuff.
And this is an opportunity. I think, you know, Caleb
(04:15):
Downs would like to win another national championship. I think
that's you know, he didn't specifically say that to me tonight.
I sort of inferred that from literally everything else. But
I think he is, you know, that's probably a fair
thing to say that he would like to win another
national championship, and Devin Sanchez is you know, a significant
piece of what they are going to need because they
are going to get tested by teams with better passing
(04:36):
offenses moving forward. So the more you can see Devin
Sanchez improve in his game because as a true freshman man,
oh man, is that learning curve? You know, it goes
up pretty steep because there's a lot of the first
time and then if you can do something the first
time or the second time and then learn from what
you didn't do right and you can improve and then
it's better the next time. Boy, that makes a big difference.
(04:57):
And that can that is a process that can happen
pretty quickly for you on guys.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So there is some seniors, some Senior Day festivities going on.
There will be a bunch of seniors. One of them
will be will Kes Merrick who said, you know, how
do you want the senior class to be remembered? Said,
I would like to be remembered as the first team
to go back to back.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what's so interesting is we haven't really heard
anyone use that phrase all season. You know, they talk about,
you know, need to get better or that kind of stuff.
I heard that from Sunny Styles tonight. I think I
might have heard that from Taiwan Malone tonight. So you know,
we can say this all the time. When we hear
the same thing coming out of a bunch of different players,
(05:36):
that means that's what's getting talked about in this building
this year. And you know, Sonny Styles talked about it
in terms of, you know, they still have all these
goals in front of them that they want to beat.
He said that team up north, they want to beat
Michigan in surprise, surprise, they wouldn't win the Big Ten.
They we'll get to Indianapolis and win the Big Ten.
And he said, we want to be the first team
to win back to back national championships. And that's you know,
(06:01):
the good news is you're halfway there. You've already done
it once. So and the guys who were here were
a part of that. But now you're you know a
lot of these guys taking a bigger role and they
want to be the sort of you know, the key
players as opposed to maybe more role players in some
of their cases.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's always interesting this night, the final one before the
senior day, whatever year it is. Every year when you
talk to these guys, it's always like, how fast is
the time fly turns out? It flies by a lot.
And so that was asked of everybody. I was asking
a couple of guys, what's the toughest lesson you've learned
in your four years of college? Carson Hensman said, let
(06:37):
me see here, don't be late for workouts.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I bet that's one that comes with a very specifically,
that was kidding Curry, same the same, the message, the same.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
He also credited mc muratti for, you know, largely making
him into the player that he is in terms of
being able to be than shaped and formed by Larry Johnson.
But yes, don't be late for workouts. I asked, well, Cosmeric,
what's the biggest lesson you learn? Is like every workout,
every rep matters, everything you do matters, and it's really
(07:12):
difficult to learn that and apply just understand that. And
I said, you know, how long did it take you
to learn is the Top's like I'm still learning it.
Everybody's still learning it. That Like every rep is an opportunity.
Every rep matters. Every You're just like, don't take any
of it for granted, because it all means something that
is all applicable to life beyond football and everything. So
(07:33):
it's interesting to talk to. But your player is about
things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, and they grade everything here. Every rep in practice
gets graded, it gets reviewed, gets graded. You get you
watch film of yourself in practice, You watch film of
yourself in games when it is garbage time, there is
no such thing as garbage time. If you were onio
statistically Pretyman stat systems, absolutely this garbage time once you
hit twenty eight points boom, Nope, you know there is
(08:00):
no garbage time. When you're on the team, there is
no The expectation remains four to six A to B.
Whether the score is seventy to nothing or twenty four
to twenty three with the opposing team driving it is,
it does not matter everything. As you said, everything matters,
and that's true of every rep during Matt drills in
which is February, every rep during spring ball when it's
(08:22):
you know, guys are just figuring it out and you're
just sort of you know, you've got the guy who
STI trying to figure out where the locker room is,
Like all of that stuff matters. And that's the kind
of like really nitpicky attention to detail that that's not
the norm everywhere. We talked a couple of weeks ago
about about Max Clayer and how he came from Purdue
and Perdue. There's you know, it's a Big ten school.
(08:42):
This is you know, this is a school where you've
got fifty thousand people in the stadium on Saturday and
all that kind of stuff. The standard is different there,
and so when you come to Ohio State you sort
of have to adjust to like, oh, well, what used
to be good enough is no longer good enough. And
that's you know, can gos, you've leveled up. It's you know,
it's like leveling up in a video. Gad, guess what
(09:04):
the next boss is going to be a little bit
more difficult than the lost one?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, Sonny Styles, Oh yeah, Sonny Styles is asked about
Matt Patricia and what he learned from it, and the
thing that I took most of them from this is
so he's so easy to learn from and right away
when he saw how he was teaching, he's like, oh,
we're going to get so much smarter, and it's just interesting,
like some to see the feedback like this is everybody
(09:32):
thinks like you know, I stually does so many different things,
and to here Sonny Styles is like he teaches us
so so so easily, Like how can you not get
complicated at that point? Like when when you're a good teacher,
it makes it easier to learn and any walk of life.
But just to hear Sonny Style's be like, oh, we're
going to get smarter.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. It's every time you hear people talk about Matt Patricia,
you know, I don't know. I don't know if Matt
Patricia is headed back to the NFL after this year.
You're going to stick around for five more years? Who knows.
Every time you hear people talk about Matt Patricia, it's like,
my dude, you are in the perfect place for what
you know. This is exactly what you were good at
this right here, and you know, working with players who
(10:15):
are this talented, he knows how to take advantage of that.
He has the knowledge set to you know, he has
done his ten thousand hours you know, coaching defense, so
he knows, you know, he's got the answers to all
the different you know, all the different challenges he may
you know, may be posed to him, and he has
the players here to capitalize on that and to be
(10:35):
able to do Okay, well I wanted to do this.
Do I have a guy who's fast enough to get
from point A to point B to do this sort
of complicated thing. Why? Yes, I have seven of them. So,
you know, this feels like he is in such a
perfect place. And we keep saying this every time we
talk about it. He sure seems like he's loving life here.
And we'll see. I I think there is a you know,
(10:59):
I came into this year expecting, you know, well NFL guy, well,
you know, might be one year and back off the NFL,
like it was with Chip Kelly last year. The more
we're around here and the more we hear people talk
about what he's like behind the scenes, the more I think, boy,
I don't know, A, he's in a really good spot.
I don't know, you know, why would you give that up?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah? You spend a year studying the game in the
college game, and then you spend a year succeeding to
this point in the college game. Although the players will
tell you they haven't won anything yet and every Wednesday
when we're here, we say he's the last guy to
leave again. Tonight he was the last player or coach
to be on the field, He was the last one
to walk through to the doors to the offices and
just seems to be having the time of his life.
(11:40):
The last thing for me, I asked Will kes Merrick
and Carson Hinsman, how do you know that the running
game is better? And it's not just because of the
opponents you faced, And Carson Hinsman said, we see it
in practice. You see the offense. You see that the
running backs are seeing things better.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that a concern about the defense?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Trist got to go, But they're all seeing the running
backs get better. And I said, what does that do
for you mentally? Is like it's amazing. Makes you feel
so much better when you know the blocks are going
to be used properly. And Will kas Merik said the
same thing, like they know that to this point now
now as long as they're holding their blocks, they have
(12:20):
faith that the running backs are going to see them.
And I think that's just part of the growth of
Ryan da has talked about all season long.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well, and this goes back to what I was talking
about with Devin Sanchez earlier. These are true freshman running backs.
So guess what These are guys who are seeing exponentially
more reps in practice and in games. You know, the
number of reps are seeing in practice is growing exponentially,
you know, month by month at this point. So yeah,
you would expect big growth from those guys as the
season goes on, and it sounds like you're seeing it.
(12:48):
A couple quick things from Sonny Styles. This is something
he said a couple of times, which is, you know,
another one of these this is these are words that
are being said behind that center black wall right there.
If you cut corners, someone's going to get you. Like
it's it's you know, you can you can cut corners
now and maybe it doesn't catch up with you right now,
but it will catch up with you, he said. He
talked about, you know, coming in as a safety, he said,
(13:09):
great experience. He knew it was not going to last forever.
He knew he was going to outgrow safety, but the
experience at safety was very beneficial to him, you know, frankly,
just probably having the reps on the field and playing
rather than you know, doing the Javante Jean Baptiste thing
where you're trying to grow, you know, physically, eat enough
peanut butter sandwich used to grow into the next position
group up. I think he benefited a lot from that.
(13:30):
He sounded like he really enjoyed it, but you knew
learned a lot from it, but knew it was only
gonna last so long.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Like I said, I came into six four two twenty,
I knew I wasn't going to stay a safety forever.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then Tylan Malone said, you know,
he of course came from Ole Miss, where he played baseball.
He was asked about, you know, this sort of like
viral video of him heading over home run. He's like, oh,
which one was that I had a lot of home runs?
Which when you look at him, it's like, yeah, I
bet you did. But he he said, you know, he
(13:59):
came into this year really focused on what did he
need you to get better? Because he's you know, the
being a baseball player at Ole Miss. You know that.
You know, we talked for you over and over with him, like, hey,
you're probably a little behind because you weren't focused solely
on football. He knew coming in this year, Okay, you're
running out of time, So now you gotta, you know,
(14:19):
you really gotta. This is your chance, this is your
last opportunity. And he came in and said he really
was focused on what he needed to get better, talking
to coach Patricia, talking to Larry Johnson about Okay, what
do I need to do to improve and like very
clearly he is he might win one of the most
improved or biggest, biggest uh, you know, most outperformed expectations
this year.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, and this is what his third year without baseball. Yeah,
so it's not unusual that it would take you three
years to like imagine he's like a red shirt sophomore
at this point where it's like, okay, now, but he's
he was just a guy, and he's playing before the season,
he's playing in blowouts and you know, he's just occupied
(15:00):
reps and now he's occupying the offensive line. And he's
one of the more pleasant surprises. He's what needed to
happen for this defensive line, the interior especially. I don't
think anybody expected him to start and then also to
do well while starting, And yeah, he's been one of
the best surprises for the Buckeyes this year.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's all I had.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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