34 Charged in NBA, Poker Gambling Cases Include Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
The fallout continues from the big arrass yesterday of NBA players, coaches,
the mob. It is all happening and it's very interesting.
There is a podcast that came out in May of
twenty three. This is a gambler who, by the way, says, oh, yeah, yeah,

(00:38):
this thing's been going on for a while, and it's
built around Chauncey Billups. This is twenty three, but he
said this thing's been going around since like twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
This must have been like five years ago, twenty nineteen ish.
I think where there was this game. It started in
LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days,
and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And the
person who told me about it was like, look, I
know the game run is. I'm telling you one hundred
percent this game is on the up and up. And
I was like, well, I know a lot of the

(01:10):
people that are involved, and I'm telling you one hundred
percent that it is not. I had some friends who
went and played it both in LA and in Vegas,
and it obviously, like was for sure confirmed to be cheated.
Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of
no limit hold them are just like jamming hundreds of

(01:32):
big blinds in with like a gutty and then.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Just willing it.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Only the pros are losing it was you know, it's
basically confirmed amongst all of the pros that the game
was cheated, but there's just no recourse, gotcha, and you
know they.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Got absolutely flayed.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, it's tough too whenever you're dealing with somebody like
high profile like that, because they carry a lot of
weight and hold a lot of power. So all you
can do is like kind of unite together and threatened
to publicly out him or restored him in some sort
of capacity, in which case, you know, good luck.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I mean that kind of says a lot. And it
goes back to this. I was talking about this yesterday.
The more I thought about it, the more I talk
to people about it. So Chauncey again, coach, at least
for now, NBA Hall of Famer, Who are you bringing
to these games?

Speaker 6 (02:30):
That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's you know, it's you're not bringing your friends to
get smoked. You're not bringing your pals and your buddies
to go get lit up. So how exactly are you
using him to recruit people. I'm just it's I find

(02:53):
it bizarre.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
These victims never stood a chance because everyone around the
poker table the victim was in on the scam. As
alleged in the indictment, these poker rooms were equipped with
X ray poker tables where you could see the cards
face down. There were special glasses and contact lenses that
could pick up marks on the cards. There were tainted

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shuffling decks. All in all, victims lost millions, millions.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
I mean, you know, look, we understand that.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And if you get guys who are great a poker
around a table and they know that there's a mark
that they could take down, they're not playing against each other,
they're playing against that person. But who's bringing that person's
That was my thing that I'm curious about us, who
is bringing? So if it's built around Chauncey, what is

(03:50):
Chauncey just out just hanging out with people and saying, hey,
you should come do these things or these are your
That's the thing I found bizarre. But it is incredible
the more that you dig deeper into this, and again,
there's a lot of facets to this gambling probe that

(04:11):
is more than just the card table. There's all kinds
of stuff. Now Lebron's been brought into it, not that
he's done anything, but the reports about him being injured
and stuff. This is and I have a could we
be just getting to the point where touching the tip
of the iceberg.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
There are two separate but related indictments, the one involving
the illegal poker parlors and one involving sports betting on basketball,
and it casts a pall over the NBA's opening week.
The NBA says it's cooperating in these investigations. The NBA
players Union says integrity is of the utmost importance, So

(04:52):
is the presumption of innocence.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Well that's good, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So eleven states were involved in this, and you know,
everybody's like, well it's all about those you know, those
those gambling sites.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
No, no, no, federal prosecutors went out of their way
to say that the sports betting platforms were the victims
here because these were illegal bets that they ended up
paying out. So there is going to be a restitution
ask here, assuming some of these folks are found guilty.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
And that's assuming who flips first, and the other thing
I was trying trying to figure out.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
How did you catch them?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now I could see catching the the basketball on court
stuff that I could see. The Other side of it, though,
is if you're being taken for money at an illegal
gambling poker room, who do you call.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
It's like those people who call the UH.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
The the the police after their drug deal goes bad
because they gave the people the money and they didn't
get the drugs or vice versa. Oh man, this is
just I have a feeling this is just getting going
I do.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
I have a feeling there's going to be a lot
more to this.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And I have a feeling there's some players probably sweating
right now.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
That maybe we haven't heard from yet.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Maybe could there be more? I hope not. I absolutely
hope not, but you never never know. All Right, we
went from there, government shutdown still going on. I keep saying,
and I'll continue to say this over and over again,
it's not the people. It affects you, I anybody like that.

(06:40):
That doesn't matter to the politicians unless you blame it
on them. And I said the blame game was going
to be the most important thing, because the only way
this changes is if the blame lands on one side
or the other in such a way that they're forced
to go in and negotiate. Frank Lutz, arguably one of

(07:02):
the best polsters out there, talking about right now, at
this moment in time, anybody getting the blame.

Speaker 8 (07:09):
I've been mulling this over for the last forty eight hours,
trying to figure out how best to respond to you.
I want to give you the answer that most Americans
would give you, and I want to be accurate about
this and impactful about this.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
No side is winning. I want to be clear about
what I'm saying here.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
No side is winning the shutdown because everyone is being
punished for it, even if you don't feel it.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
But no side's losing either, And both sides have dug
in their heels, and the Trump voters and the Democrats,
they're willing to go to the mat, at least right
now because it's a blame game, and right now, neither
of them are getting to the point where their side
is starting to ask questions now.

Speaker 8 (07:53):
Make no mistake, Trump voters believe that Donald Trump is
absolutely winning, and they want them to fight just as hard,
if not harder, for his side in this and the
same thing on the Democratic side. How King Jeffries is
being absolutely advised by his own party, his own members,
to keep pushing, and that no one is speaking for
the sensible center, no one is speaking in terms of

(08:15):
common sense, that this is not a good look or
presentation for the federal government. The idea that we can't
get along with each other, that we can't talk to
each other, sit in the same room at the same
time and give because if we just give enough, everybody receives,
and if we give nothing, nobody gets anything.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
And that's what the polling shows.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
But the polling only matters when a side gets blamed
and they feel that they could start to see next
year's midterm slip. This is about power and control. This
has nothing to do with the suffering of the people. Yes,
you'll say that, right, like, I mean, of course, oh,
we don't want bad things to happen to people. But

(08:58):
at this moment in time, they're not thinking about that
because they both can go, eh, you know what, it's okay,
they're not even trying at this point in time.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
I mean, think about that.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
The appetite doesn't seem to be there from either side
to even get in there. And do anything outside of
talking to the media saying it's the other side's fault.
Nobody seems to care. And if nobody seems to care
and the polls show that, then business as usual.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
But make no mistake, Trump voters love what Donald Trump
is doing, and Democratic voters love what our King Jefferies
and to a lesser extent, the Senate leader are doing.
And that's why we're in the situation I'm in right now.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, if they both love it, then nothing's getting done.
Guess what's gonna happen? Nothing? Oh three, two, three, five, three, eight,
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President Trump has abruptly ended trained negotiations with Canada. He
says he's angry over a TV ad airing in Canada
that used the voice of Ronald Reagan to criticize tariffs.
Trump accuses Canada of trying to interfere with the Supreme Court,
which is considering whether his tariffs are legal.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Very interesting, he broke it off. You know, the ad
is what the ad is.

Speaker 10 (10:21):
When someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it
looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American
products and jobs, and sometimes for a short vire it works.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
So Trump got pissed, saw that said I'm done.

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The Reagan Library said, look, you've taken this out of context,
and you did ask to use his voice. So we're
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Opened the show this morning with highlights from the NBA.
They had a great night last night there waking up
this morning in the middle of a nightmare.

Speaker 17 (14:50):
But as you now know, individuals such as Chauncey Billups,
Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking in the custody
today former current NBA players and coaches, Monny.

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Be hurting in my head and Judy.

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Get into that.

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You know he wants to name it Trump Ballroom. You
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This country is of homeless people with nothing to eat,
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It speaks to the corruption of the whole system. I
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I pursuit.

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We haven't already.

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Lost it, Okay, we'll put you down. It's not a
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embossed Trump stamp on the building itself, so that no
matter what happens from here, like, there's always just a ringman.

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Of his.

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Legacy regime, whatever.

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We want to call it. So I think it's unfortunate.

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Benson Show, The Chat Benson Show, And is that time

(18:04):
of the show where we have a little bit of
fun called the Wheel of Surprise.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
We spin the wheel and wherever it lands, whatever number
it is, we hit the audio SoundBite and go from there.
They're marked accordingly, but I don't know what they are.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
It's just like one, two, three for five. It's so
we just have fun with it.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
We roll with it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I don't know what the stories are. I've read all
the stories. I've probably listened to a lot of the stuff.
But there's so many things going on, we just don't
have time to get to it all.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
So let's get to it. It's the Wheel of Surprise.
Number six.

Speaker 25 (18:42):
You said something that really caught my attention. You said, so,
you're not a Republican, you're not a Democrat. So what
party do you belong to me?

Speaker 26 (18:48):
I'm in the Socialist Workers Party and this I was
won over to joining the Socialist Workers Party in the
mid nineties, realizing this is the most working people having
their own party. Starting with the world perspective of organizing
all workers was the most effective way to advance working
people's interests, to push back attacks on our cost of living,
how our unsafe conditions on the job, and to fight

(19:09):
for things we need. Drawing on history revolutions, the civil
rights movement.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
This is one of my favorite stories reading it to.
Her name is Laura Anderson. She is running to be
the mayor of Miami and kids. I don't know if
you're aware of this, but in Miami. There's a lot
of Cubans. Oh maybe, and let's just say that she
is a fan of some people that maybe a lot

(19:36):
of Cubans aren't fans of.

Speaker 27 (19:38):
So when we were doing our research, you know, looking
you up for this interview, voters will be doing the
same when they're going to the polls looking for their
next Miami mayor. They want to find out information about you. Right,
there was not a whole lot of information we could
find on you campaign websites, and we did find, you know, Ballipedia.
You did answer some questions. One question in particular stood

(19:58):
out to us. It was who do you look up to?
And whose examples and why? And there was one person
that you wrote you mentioned Fidel Castro.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Can you explain sure?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
First of all, I just want to remind everybody Miami Cubans,
Fidel Castro, Miami Cubans, Fidel Castro, lady running as mayor,
candidate to be mayor of an area that is filled
with Cubans who fled Fidel Castro.

Speaker 26 (20:30):
I went to Cuba more than three times. Last time
was three times, Maria, and I saw how workers are
already living in the neighborhoods. For example, you know, before
the electricity went off, and they had electricity up even
with a six year blockade. The revolution and the people
who were changed from it were organizing to meet the

(20:51):
needs of the people.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Wow, she went there three times, three times she went
to Cuba. That it's pretty awesome, right like that, you're
getting the full full picture, especially you know there to observe.

Speaker 26 (21:05):
And I studied and read Fidel Castro. He was someone
who pointed to women as some of the best leaders
before the revolution. He explained the role of you hatred
he was. He was someone who understood the African freedom
struggle was totally tied to the Cuban revolutions.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Okay, so I just want to go over this again.
You're running to be the mayor of Miami. Yes, as
a Socialist Worker Party mayor, and the mayor of Miami
is supposed to be non political. You're not supposed to
have any party affiliation. You know everybody does. But it's
just so you want to be mayor. Yes, let's spoke

(21:45):
go over this again in Miami. Yes, where there's Cubans
who escaped the tyranny, the oppression of Fidel Castro and Cuba,
and so you want to do that, and you also
admire him and you he's one of your heroes. I
just I'm trying to put it all together.

Speaker 27 (22:05):
And what do you say to the Cubans who live
in Miami that cannot even stand to hear his name
that I've lived through that.

Speaker 26 (22:16):
I don't I don't argue with people who are aren't
open to a discussion of how can we draw lessons
from the Cuban Revolution. If you want to have a
discussion on that, then we'll have a discussion. How can
we draw lessons from the Cuban Revolution that's in the
interest of the working people here today. And I've stann
I've stood next to people in the street here who

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don't support the Cuban Revolution, but they're against the economic blockade.
There's coalitions in Miami that have mobilized around ending the blockade,
and that is very important for you know, and the
economic blockade. I'm against US rearming in Puerto Rico, bombing
with ships in Venezuela. I'm for defending Israel's right to
defend itself and defeating Hamas completely.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Okay, this is so, I just put this together.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
You you you're you're a fan of Fidel Castro and
his politics.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
So this guy, he's stunned.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
He's the the other reporter that they're interviewing, and I
think he's just like, Okay, I want to go over
this again.

Speaker 25 (23:22):
But those are national issues. But I can tell you,
in a community that has made up mostly of Cuban
Americans who had to flee Castro's regime, that's probably not
a good way to win over their vote.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Would I would?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I would say that's that's that's not good. But you
know what, I could be wrong?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Do not argue?

Speaker 28 (23:42):
Well?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
I would, Mimi, this is what I would.

Speaker 26 (23:44):
I get that question, not like that, but similar like
you're socialist, you know, how is that? How are people
gonna respond? Most working people, not just here in Miami,
in the United States, they want to talk about the aliment,
the cost of living, Their son committed suicide, their neighbor
lost their home. Correct, their coworkers are disappearing on the job. Okay,

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most huge percent don't vote anymore, and they're stick of
lesser evilism, lesser evil politics. So they're not and the
doors aren't people. Maybe someone who like you said, thinks
the way is veheminently against Bedell and doesn't want to
have a discussion.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, because chances are they their family escaped or they
escaped because they were tortured, beaten, threatened, oppressed. Probably don't
want to have a discussion where he's a hero.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
You're so you want to be mayor?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
You want to be mayor of a place where the
hero is the enemy of the people, you.

Speaker 26 (24:49):
Know, Okay, that's fine, I'll cook.

Speaker 25 (24:51):
It's up for discussion, Miss Anderson in Miami or in
Miami did County. There is no doubt that for some
that could be political aside to talk about Castro and
to say that he's your hero.

Speaker 26 (25:06):
Oh well, I disagree.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
And that's why she won't be mayor.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh leave it to a white woman, as we all know,
to come in and to talk like I've been there
on numerous occasions, and I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Okay, okay, fantastic. Great.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
So you just you know what, there's nothing I can say.
Your hero is their enemy. Good luck trying to get
their vote. It's the Wheel of Surprise.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Number number nine.

Speaker 29 (25:43):
Yes, it's the first of it's kind here in the
state of Ohio. A lawsuit challenging ohsaa's restrictions on name, image,
and likeness for high school athletes, but now a Franklin
County judge siding with those athletes. Dayton Area high school
wide receiver Jamir Brown is committed to play for the
Buckeye is starting in the twenty twenty seven season. A

(26:04):
standout athlete who's made a name for himself on the
football field. But his family's attorney tells ABC six he's
losing out on more than one hundred thousand dollars in name,
image and likeness brand deals.

Speaker 30 (26:16):
These are unique and unrecoverable harms to JB's career, his reputation,
and his constitutional rights.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
So this is pretty interesting. So lawsuit in Ohio. So
you know how you know sports in college? Now you
get they get paid. Now get paid from the school.
They get name, image and likeness, so they put together
big pot. But you can sign now with Nike. You
can sign with all these things. Well, high schoolers in
most of the country can do the same thing. In fact,

(26:43):
one high schooler and believe he's out of Utah. Aj DEBANSA,
I think I might be pronouncing that wrong. He is
at BYU this year. He'll probably be one of the
number one or two picks next year. In the NBA Draft.
He's going to do his one year in college and
then go. He had a seven figure deal already in

(27:04):
high school, and in Ohio they weren't allowing that, and
this guy's like, hey why not.

Speaker 29 (27:09):
Attorney Luke Fedlam calls Ohio High School Athletic Association's limitations
a violation of free speech, also loss of brand development opportunities,
and status based censorship.

Speaker 30 (27:20):
Whenever a student athlete misses out on significant opportunity, especially
six figures of opportunities, that's a direct impact to that
family and that athlete.

Speaker 29 (27:29):
Before Monday's ruling, OHSAA restricted student athletes from profiting off
of their NIL, with Ohio being one of only six
states limiting high school athletes. All fifty states allow collegiate
athletes to benefit from their NIL.

Speaker 30 (27:43):
If you have the ability, as a high school student
athlete to earn compensation, you should be able to should
be allowed to.

Speaker 31 (27:49):
The court does find the argument relating to violation of
eco protection and due course of law arguments very compelling.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I absolutely agree. I got no problems with this none
not getting paid by the school. He's getting paid by
brand deals. And if you were a high school kid
who was great at gaming. You could make hundreds of
thousands dollars. Gaming wouldn't be an issue. I don't think

(28:17):
it should be an issue here. And he's not even
going to be in college for a couple of years.
And he said, look, my mom and I are doing okay,
but this would take a lot of pressure, you know,
one hundred plus thousand dollars off of her and I.
It helps with travel and training and tutoring. Again, no

(28:38):
problem with it.

Speaker 29 (28:39):
Judge Jason Page granting a temporary restraining order against ohsaa's rules.

Speaker 31 (28:45):
With that being said, the Ohio High School Athletic Association
is temporarily enjoined from enforcing Section four tendash, one of
his bylaws.

Speaker 29 (28:54):
That means high school student athletes can legally benefit from
their NIL until the lawsuits next court hearing. The Athletic
Association tells ME it plans to release information Tuesday with
its next steps. The group said it anticipated the judge's
decision and plan to update OHSAA schools this week. A
preliminary injunction hearing is scheduled within the next few weeks,

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but for now, those student athletes able to benefit from
their name, image.

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in the seventies in West Germany.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
We'll do this straight ahead, Chad Bencon Show.

Speaker 29 (31:07):
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Speaker 2 (31:16):
All right, we're continuing our march to number one scariest
movies of all time based on my rankings. But I've
heard a lot from you guys as well, and this
one was recommended and I had seen it on several occasions,
and it is amazing. It is terrifying, and it is
based on an actual case.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
What let's get to it.

Speaker 19 (31:44):
The time has come, so prepare yourself for a journey
of fear from the darkest corner of cinema, the most
bone chilling tales ever told. It's the countdown you've been
waiting for. Which movie will take the top spot? You'll
have to listen to find out.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Number six?

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Number six? This movie is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Several of you recommended it and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna go watch it again and it is absolutely
up there. Came out two thousand and five. Yesterday, we
did a movie Sinster right, amazing movie, scary movie directed
by Scott Dereckson. This movie, directed by Scott Derekson, starring

(32:34):
Laura Lennie, Tom Wilkinson, and Jennifer Carpenter, came out two
thousand and five. The movie's called The Exorcism of Emily Rose.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I don't care about my reputation.

Speaker 19 (32:49):
What I care about is telling Emily Rose's story.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Piece to cross Satan beneath our feet?

Speaker 28 (33:04):
Do you understand how long they can.

Speaker 15 (33:05):
Put you away for this?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
I want people to hear what only I can tell
and what is that?

Speaker 10 (33:09):
What really happened to Emily and why?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
So she believed that her actual possession began that night
at the hospital.

Speaker 28 (33:18):
I think she did. Emily, Hey, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
It has begun such a great movie.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So the movie came out nineteen million dollar budget, one
hundred and forty five million made. It's often considered one
of the few extorcist movies that successfully makes his courtroom
procedure and horror because when you're Tom Wilkins in there,
he's an amazing actor. He plays the priest who is
charged with her death because of the exorcism, and he

(34:08):
goes on trial, and it is incredible because it mixes
the courtroom drama but also the fright that comes with
her exorcism, and it is just amazing.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Now people are saying, why is it so scary?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, first of all, it's loosely based on an actual
case in Germany, West Germany at the time, a woman
by the name of Annelie Michel who ended up dying
and her family and the priests were charged in her death.

(34:44):
This is a tape, an actual tape of part of
the exorcism, and it is creepy. So creepy, so creepy, indeed,

(35:06):
an amazing movie, a scary movie, but a movie that, again,
as somebody who's not into gore and horror, if you
watch this movie, it is gripping and incredible with the
courtroom drama, but also the flashbacks of this young girl
that is just amazing. Number six in our horror movie
countdown the exor System of Emily Rose three two, three, five, three, eight,

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and more has come out overnight.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
We to talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Plus we to talk a bit about Venezuela, the economy
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh, Venezuela, we may be coming for you. Trump has
made that pretty I mean, he's made that pretty parent
that it's happening.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's not if.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
But when somebody said to me last night, I hope
you're happy, and I'm like, about what, well you've been
saying that this is going to happen. What do you
think I manifested this? The hell's wrong with you? And
by the way, I don't know how much Trump is
really behind all of this. I mean, he's the president,
so the buck stops with him. And you know, if

(37:22):
he's going to get the credit, he can get the
blame whatever happens. And again, I'm not about regime change,
and I have no idea why we're doing this outside
of oil and you know this, I mean, they have
found a way to make sure that America knows that
this is the worst place in the history of whatever
for drugs, which is it's a bunch of malarkey. But
nobody cares about actual data in facts. But I do
care about the Constitution. And maybe you know, if we're

(37:45):
going to go in Land, we should ask Congress. You guys,
you guys cool with this.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Congress isn't there, so you might as well just go
and do it yourself.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Right, Yes, we do. We have legal tharty, we're allowed
to do that.

Speaker 12 (37:58):
And if we do by Land, we may go back
back to Congress. But we have this is a national
security problem. They killed three hundred thousand people last year.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I had no idea where he got that number. But
here's the thing, and this is you know, look, I
get on Trump, good, bad and different. And the reason
people say, well, why do you so hard on him?
Because I want him to succeed. You know, I don't
want to be lied to, but I want him to succeed.
And and it's there's no way they killed three hundred

(38:30):
thousand people last year, Like how why does nobody go
where'd you get that figure?

Speaker 6 (38:35):
Out of curiosity?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Where did you get that figure from three hundred thousand
people from overdoses of what fentanyl?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
No fentanyl comes out of Venezuela drugs.

Speaker 12 (38:47):
These drugs coming in, they killed three hundred thousand Americans
last year, and that gives you legal authority. We have
a national security Really, I will say this, when you
look at the people were dealing with it, and we
know them, we know the people coming in, we know
the boats, we know everything else. We're allowed to do it.

(39:09):
It's in international orders. If we don't do it, we're
gonna lose hundreds of thousands of people.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
From what though, I keep asking from what?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
And you know, look, everybody's like it's great to blow up,
you know, drug dealers. We're blowing up dudes in boats
with cocaine, right, Booker Sugar. Five thousand people a year
die from an overdose of cocaine. Cocaine is first of all,
it's expensive comparatively to a lot of other stuff out there.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Secondly, I mean, you know this is not fentanyl.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Fentanyl is the one that matters when it comes to this,
the one pill can kill and all that stuff fentinyl matters.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Zero fentanyl.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Gets traffic through or is manufactured in Venezuela. I just
want people to understand zero zero and even with all
the fentanel, only about seventy thousand people died last year,
which is it sucks to say, right, Oh my god,

(40:18):
I can say that seventy nine, three hundred and eighty
three people is what the CDC says. Now, So the
CDC was lying to the point of that. I don't
I don't get it. I care about the Constitution though,
and if we're going to go invade a country, we
should ask Congress if it's cool.

Speaker 12 (40:40):
Now they'll be coming in by land a little bit
more because they're not coming in by boat anymore. There
are no boats in the water. There are no more boats.
We know the boat almost immediately. You know, it's pretty
unusual when you see somebody with a fishing rod and
five engines on the back of the boat. You know
you don't need that to go fishing. Wait, wait, wait,
and we will hit them very hard when they come

(41:00):
in by land, and they haven't experienced that yet. But
now we're totally prepared to do that. We'll probably go
back to Congress and explain exactly what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
When we come to the land. We don't have to
do that, but I think Marco, I'd like.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
To do that.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
You may respond to.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That, okay, well, I mean if you if you don't
have to do that, then what do we Why do
we even have a constitution, Why do we even have
these checks and balances of being able to go in
and say, hey, maybe if we're going to regime change,
we should have some you know, some Q and a
time with Congress. But there is no Congress because they

(41:37):
got time off right now, what with them, you know,
doing whatever it is that they're doing, and that's not
getting any closer to being done, and there's no urgency
for it. And the reason why would there be There
is no real poll that overwhelmingly says Republicans are guilty
Democrats are guilty of shutting these things down. It's all

(42:00):
their fault. Both sides have kind of dug their heels in.
So alas here we are, Oh, it's all happening, kids,
And while all that's going on, my goodness me sports betting.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
So yesterday it came.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Down thirty plus people arrested in a big sports betting operation.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
The interesting thing was this has been going on for
a while.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
This is a pro Gambler, who was on a podcast
in twenty twenty three talking about the sports betting ring
that he was familiar with, and Man, if you're Chauncey Billups,
this isn't good.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
This must have been like five years ago, twenty nineteen ish.
LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days,
and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And the
person who told me about it was like, look, I
know the game runners. I'm telling you one hundred percent
this game is on the up and up. And I
was like, well, I know a lot of the people

(42:59):
that are involved. Then I'm telling you one that it
is not. I had some so so just listen to that.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
He said, I'm one hundred percent telling you right now
that the game that Chauncey is involved with, that it's
built around, is not on the up and up.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
There is nothing about this that says up and up.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Friends who went and played at both in LA and
in Vegas, and it obviously like was for sure confirmed
to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't even understand
the rules of Nolaman hold Him are just like jamming
hundreds of big blinds in.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
With like a gutty and then just thing it.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Only the pros are losing. It was you know, it's
basically confirmed amongst all of the pros that the game
is cheated, but there's just no recourse, gotcha, And you
know they got absolutely flayed.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well absolutely played. So this is a guy who's a
pro gambler talking about the games twenty nineteen. So this
is going back a while. These guys are in some
serious trouble. You know, Look, if you're a gangster, you
expect stuff like this, not a big deal. If you're
a pro basketball player, if you're a pro basketball player

(44:14):
and then a Hall of Fame or then a coach,
this is not a good look at all. You are done,
period case clothes. I think everybody recognized that unless you
can prove that you didn't know any of this stuff
was to be true. And my other question I've had
is I'm curious as to how you get people to

(44:37):
come to the event that you're there for that aren't
your friends. So you bring in your you're not bringing
your friends, cause you bring in your friends. You have
to know the games rigged, right? Are they not telling
you you do this for four or five years. You're like, man,
I bring all these people, and I'll be damned. I'll
be damned if every one of them I bring, you know,

(45:01):
doesn't win a damn thing.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
They don't win a thing.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
They lose, that's all they do. Maybe on bad luck.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
These victims never stood a chance because everyone around the
poker table except the victim was in on the scam.
As alleged in the indictment. These poker rooms were equipped
with X ray poker tables where you could see the
cards face down. There were special glasses and contact lenses
that could pick up marks on the cards. There were

(45:29):
tainted shuffling decks. All in all, victims lost.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Millions, millions and millions and millions.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Now we're talking cards, but let's not forget there's the
other side of all of these things too, which is
the on court, which is what they went after and
got Rogier yesterday when they arrested him. His seems to
be on court, and on court had to do with
over unders, It had to do with a lot of
different stuff about you know, how long he played in

(46:01):
a game. You know, that's they start investigating him in
twenty twenty three because there was a lot of money
that came in on him, and he, you know, everybody
took the under and the next thing, you know, he
plays nine minutes and then he's gone.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
The authority said that these games had been going on
since at least twenty nineteen. This is a deep and
widespread alleged scam. Billips made his first appearance in court
in Oregon. He will come to Brooklyn to formally enter
his not guilty plea and then the prosecution will go
from there in Billups, according to federal prosecutors, was involved

(46:36):
in the other scheme too, the one that alleged certain
NBA figures provided inside information for sports beetters.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
That right there is the killer for him, card gambling.
These guys are millionaires. For them to go play giant hands, hew,
they probably play that on the airplane flying from point
A to point B with each other. Still, you're up
with the mob. That's an issue. The fact that you
be giving out information that included Lebron James has been
brought into this. Not that he's done anything, but people

(47:06):
were reporting that Lebron and his status was being reported
by players and maybe others to betters and the betting
side of it too, goes another way, which is everybody's like, oh,
these sports betting sides, they're the ones who took it
in the shorts.

Speaker 7 (47:23):
Federal prosecutors went out of their way to say that
the sports betting platforms were the victims here because these
were illegal bets that they ended up paying out. So
there is going to be a restitution ask here, assuming
some of these folks are found guilty.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Yeah, crazy, crazy indeed.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
And not only am I curious as how you were
having games built around you as a personality, famous basketball player,
Hall of Famer. How did you pick your mark? I'm
curious about how you picked your mark on who you
were going to bring to something. And I don't know

(48:05):
about you, but if I went to going to gamble,
which you don't, and I went to a place and
I got just crushed and I knew it was BS
and you brought me, We're gonna have serious words.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
It's fascinating. This whole thing is.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
And again the mob, the mob. How many times did
we talk about the mob? We never talk about the mob.
But they're not going anywhere. Three two, three, five, three eight,
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When Trump does good, I will give him credit. When
he does bad, I'll call him out. Right now, I'm
giving him credit for this. There was a votes okay
in the Kinesse, which is their version of Congress in Israel,
and it was about the West Bank. Now they're over
there trying to make peace right now, right jd Vance

(50:14):
and Kushner and Witkoff and all these people over there,
trying to make sure this precarious situation that we see
in front of us stays together. Right. They're doing everything
they can. I lick a spit here. They got gum
over there. They got some gorilla ghou, but not a
lot of it. They're trying to hold this thing together
while they wait for the rest of the stuff to

(50:36):
come and really seal this deal. And what do they
do they vote on annexing Israel? Does the West Bank?

Speaker 32 (50:44):
The West Bank is not going to be ANX by Israel.
The policy of the Trump administration is that the West
Bank will not be NX by Israel. That will continue
to be our policy. And if people want to take
symbolic votes, they can do that, but we certainly weren't
happy about it.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
No symbolic votes.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Do you remember three weeks ago, I think the biggest
turning point when bb came The week before bb came
out here somebody asked Trump in the White House on
a Friday afternoon about the West Bank and he said,
not going to happen.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Not going to happen, And they went and did this.

Speaker 10 (51:22):
Well.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
I asked about it.

Speaker 32 (51:23):
Somebody told me that it was a political stunt, that
it had no practical significance, it was purely symbolic. I mean, look,
if it was a political stunt, it was a very
stupid political stunt.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Very stupid Jerusalem Post.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
If Netting Yahoo f's up the agreement, Donald Trump will
f him up. That's what an official from the US said.
If Netting Yaho continues like this, he will eventually f
up the agreement. And if he f's up the agreement,
Donald Trump will absolutely f him up.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Yeah, I what have we been saying.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I mean this, they want this, They want the greater Israel,
and the likes of Ben Gavie and Smodrich, who are powerful,
very powerful and very right of even Beebe, do not
care about these agreements at all. And they're going to
push and push in every opportunity they have to continue

(52:18):
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If if Hamas came over today he laid out all
of their weapons, it still wouldn't matter at this point
in time, except for one thing Trump. Under any other president,

(52:39):
they would absolutely go, well, there was nothing we could
do under Trump and this presidency. He's going to look
right at him and say no. And you know what,
I think, He's going to get his way. Damn Skippy.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Let me know what you think. We move from the Middle.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
East to Perry, France.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
What's happening with of the Jewels? As anyone found the
Bibel This.

Speaker 33 (53:04):
Video seems to have been filmed from inside the museum.
We did hear extraordinary testimony just yesterday saying that the
only security camera on the outside of the museum over
the balcony was facing the wrong way, so nobody inside
was given any notice as to what was happening.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
And they just kind of motored up on that little thing.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Which makes me laugh because the company that makes that
little cherry picker elevator thing, they saw that their elevator
cherry picker thing was used and they were horrified by it.
But by Monday morning they had an ad campaign because
they realized nobody was hurt. And while they're not a
fan of what took place, they thought a lot of

(53:47):
people are reaching out to us, and so maybe we
should run with this and it's funny. It says as
quiet as a whisper. They thought, well, maybe it'll go
viral somewhat. Within hours, it didn't just go viral, it
went crazy viral. They were hoping to get fifteen or
twenty thousand people that would see the ad. It's well
over two and a half million, and it's pretty damn funny.

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Speaker 2 (54:50):
I was talking to my buddy because the AI. I
think everybody's waiting for the big AI bubble to burst
or whatever. One of the things they were talking about
is something you've brought up for a long time. The
they're you know, like you're going and you're like, oh, great,
you're booking thirteen billion dollars this year is what you're
bringing in, but you're out a trillion dollars for the
next ten years, and how you are starting to make money.

(55:13):
And I forgot what this is called spent forever, where
you're essentially going to companies and you're making deals with them.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
They're selling your chips in the future.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
You know, you're given some of their stock, they're given
some of your stock, and you're thinking to yourself, how
is it your prices are going up, no money's being exchanged,
and you guys are all kind of just you know,
playing around, hoping what it's going to work.

Speaker 34 (55:33):
It's really hard to look at any of these deals
that have been structured and come to any other conclusion
than that. The only caveat all throwing there is I've
heard some really smart people who I also think are
very credible and knowledgeable in this space saying that there's
a little more legitimacy to those types of deals than
the public thinks.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
One of them.

Speaker 34 (55:56):
Now, I can't verify all this, so I'm just kind
of presenting the other side of that story. A big
part of a lot of these deals that people are
talking about are with these companies that are purely they're
buying the chips, but not to make anything themselves. They're
buying the chips and then renting out the compute space,
so they're renting out the compute power. Well, one of

(56:16):
the arguments has been, and I think it makes a
lot of sense. Let's say our business is buying chips
and then renting them out. What is that chip going
to be worth two years from now? There's a big depreciation. Yeah,
let alone if there's a chip breakthrough, right, somebody else
comes out with a better chip.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
That's smart.

Speaker 34 (56:34):
There's just so many different things that you can they
could slip that up and make, you know, a deal
that we structure today that looks like just free money
could end up looking like you know, a boat ache
around somebody's neck, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 34 (56:47):
So, so then I saw a report that came out
and said the cost to run the or the break
even cost on these things is like four dollars an hour,
and they're renting it out for like fourteen to sixteen
an hour. So if those numbers are true, then some
of these deals could make sense because basically there it

(57:12):
looks like a Ponzi scheme. But if they buy the
chips and then they start realizing the rental revenue, that
will give them the money to buy more chips. Right,
so it's kind of like so it definitely has a
Ponzi look to it, but if they can rent it
out for that number, it may not be one. The
problem is is that that's the story, right, that's the
story that they're telling. And you know, guys like you

(57:34):
and I have the distinct privilege, if not disadvantage of
being around the block a few times and whenever you
see deals like this in a sector that's that hot,
it's always meant everybody was just really pressing it, you
know what I mean. It's just these are things that
you see very late cycle. I could be wrong on that,
and it is growing and evolving so fast. I think

(57:59):
you have to entertain the possibility that you can be
wrong on some of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I mean, like you said, it's growing so fast. It's
something today that looks amazing. You know, the same company
you're getting those chips from. Guess what happens. Those chips
are gonna be obsolete. They'll give them to you. They
don't care at this point in time because those things
don't even exist. And nobody's gonna rent for fourteen bucks.
They'll rent for two, right.

Speaker 34 (58:19):
Well, and then here's the other thing. Look at what
the chips cost. Look at how much you're spending. What
is the depreciation of those things per year?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Yeah, it's like a car, you know, right, But but
then think about it.

Speaker 34 (58:31):
So like, let's say you go buy a car this year,
and unbeknownst to you, the very next model year, the
body changes, right, and then you take a bigger hit
than normal, right, And and when you look at the
AI space and the chip space in particular, and you
look at how many amazing companies out there have good
chips and are actively trying to make them better to

(58:53):
compete with.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
If you're looking out over the next five years, and the.

Speaker 34 (58:57):
Minute I say five years, a lot of people are
gonna be like, well look it out over ten years. Yeah,
that's what everybody says till they're down fifty percent. You know,
when you're sitting on fifty percent gains over the course
of the last sixteen months, that affords you the ability
to tell yourself.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
You're a long term investor.

Speaker 34 (59:11):
The conclusion we keep coming to is that when you
look at the premium that's been built into so many
of these names, it's very, very very hard to envision
a scenario over the next three to five years where
you're going to see revenues and remember revenues are just
one part of it, but then profits that justify this

(59:32):
level of capex.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
If you go out eight to ten years, I think
it's it looks more.

Speaker 34 (59:38):
Possible right to capitalize the But I just I don't
think people are realizing the amount these companies are investing
multiples of their annual revenue and In a lot of cases,
that's not enough.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
They're borrowing more.

Speaker 34 (59:54):
Yeah, okay, so those investments for some of those guys
are going to pay off, big question. But the thing
that in my opinion, everybody is forgetting is guys, it's
not just good it's not just good enough. If their
revenue is going up. Remember, their revenue needs to be
going up and their profits, even more importantly, need to

(01:00:14):
be going up in a manner that makes them statistically
significant versus the CAPEX spend. Right, that's the only way
to make And when you realize how big the CAPEC
spend is, it's kind of mind numbing because you're sitting
there going boy, for this to go, for this to
work in the next three to five years, you'd have

(01:00:35):
to see an explosion of economic activity. And that's that's
the part. Well, they're gonna have AI, they're gonna have
who are they gonna sell them to? You know, every
company in the world is not gonna be able to
switch out their entire manufacturing base in the next in
the next five years for robots, even if you have
them available, right, So this is gonna take time, and

(01:00:58):
like any type of investment, the world is littered with
all kinds of investments or companies that worked eventually, but
two or three people went broke trying to get them there. Yep, right,
And and I just think a lot of these companies
are made and I get why they're doing it. If
they're not in this game, it's an existential risk to

(01:01:19):
their company. So they kind of have a gun to
their head to keep investing at this level. But investors don't.
And I think that there are still reasonable and valuable
ways to play the AI space and to benefit from it.
It's not going to be front and center where you're
going to own the stocks that are going up forty
percent in a day. But they're not things that you're

(01:01:42):
going to wake up and realize they're a zero one day. Right,
You're not going to wake up and you're The SEC
issued a notice to them. What's I'm forgetting the name
of the notice that they put out, but anyway, you
know that the SEC is actively investigating them, you know
what I mean. So it's it's I don't want to
discount it. I've made that mistake in the past. I've

(01:02:04):
made that mistake of just writing things off. I did
it with Amazon. Oh they're so expensive, are you Kidney?
I never own Amazon. That was lazy, didn't didn't dig
in do the homework needed. So got to keep an
open mind. But it's just it's the level of spend
versus the profit they got to get off it. It
just looks impossible at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Talking to Zach k ramchivs Men, Officer Board Capital, the
market is whacky, the economy is bizarre. Man, I don't
I gotta be honest with you. It doesn't feel great.
It feels very uneasy. I think it's a good way
for the consumers, and of course you got the fourth quarter.
Nobody knows what that's gonna look like. With you've got
a government shutdown? How long is this thing gonna last?
You also look out there and think how long are

(01:02:44):
these tariffs gonna last? What exactly is gonna happen?

Speaker 12 (01:02:47):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
With China? I mean, man, this this this feels it
feels weird.

Speaker 15 (01:02:51):
It does.

Speaker 34 (01:02:52):
The market is really confounding us too, because it literally
flips back and forth like every two days, where you go, Okay,
I feel like I feel like this, I feel like
we're heading in this direction, and then you know we're
looking at it today. If you look at the indices,
you're right at all time hives. So it looks bullish.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
The problem is, is it just like we were talking,
it just feels so heavy. Nothing can get lift off.

Speaker 34 (01:03:21):
Every time you see something pulling off, it gets hit
within the next couple of days, and it kind of
feels like they keep trying to rally different things. And
the thing that worries me a little bit about that
is you're really trading at the top of the valuation
range that this market has seen at any point in
the last fifteen years. When you look at the underlying
economic realities, it's really hard to justify the idea of

(01:03:42):
multiple expansion here. Meaning yeah, maybe stocks aren't going up
because they're making more money.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
But people are just paying more for them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Right.

Speaker 34 (01:03:49):
It just feels heavy here. That being said, you look
at the charts, it looks constructive. People are sitting there going, well, Zach,
don't you have a better definitive view? No, not in
a market like this, Not in the market where you're
running seven percent depths. There's so much liquidity coming in.
I mean, you know, I was talking to some guy
the your day. He's like, well, you think this or
you think that, and I go. But it's not about thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Man all throws five.

Speaker 34 (01:04:09):
Different companies at you right now, and why don't you
tell me try to make financial sense out of their valuation,
and there's just so many.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
You can't.

Speaker 34 (01:04:17):
No, they just can't, right, I mean, now, are the
AI companies different? Yeah, see, we're trying to handicap an
unknown future. That's a different deal.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I'll give it to you.

Speaker 34 (01:04:27):
But there's just so many different things where I could
point to you and just say, look, the primary function
of a market is to be a price discovery mechanism,
meaning that's what a market is supposed to do, is
to accurately price something. I can show you one hundred
different equities right now where it proves to you the
market is not doing its shop, I mean, all over
the place. So now I'm not saying I know exactly

(01:04:48):
what the right price for those security should be. But
when I'm looking at companies that have cleaner balance sheets,
double double the margins. You know, company b's got a
cleaner balance sheet, double the margin of Company A, does
more revenue, more profit than company A. It's growing at
fifteen percent. Company A is growing at five and you've
got double the valuation on company A and they're in

(01:05:09):
the same sector. That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
No, that just doesn't make any sense. So there's just
so much of that going on.

Speaker 34 (01:05:16):
But to be fair, those conditions have persisted for a while,
and so I was on the should with you last
week saying, look, I really think you're going to see
a ten to fifteen percent pullback within the next two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
That looks less likely right now on the charts.

Speaker 34 (01:05:31):
Then you look at the other stuff I'm talking about,
and it's, like I said, this lack of ability for
us to really break out from this area.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
I don't think we're out of the woods yet.

Speaker 34 (01:05:38):
Now this market appears to want to go up and
not care about anything else, and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
If that's what it wants to do, that's what it'll do.

Speaker 34 (01:05:48):
I just I don't think you're out of the woods yet,
and I think a lot of people think you are,
and I definitely think you could see some fireworks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
And to be fair to either side when you get
I just I know it sounds like.

Speaker 34 (01:05:58):
I'm saying nothing, but I want the listeners to understand
when you've got these kind of economic underpinnings, you have
these kind of separations and delta's and valuations. You've got
the US trading at the highest market cap as a
percentage of the rest of the world. Ever, you're at
all of these historical extremes. It's calling the tops of

(01:06:19):
things like this as a fool's Errand it's impossible. Nobody knows,
you know, and especially when when when when things are priced.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So far away from reality, you just don't, you know, Yeah,
like it's so oh the market's trade and too expensive.
It can't go up.

Speaker 34 (01:06:36):
And I'm like, what's the difference between thirty three times
earnings and thirty nine?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
You can't price delusion.

Speaker 34 (01:06:42):
No, no, yeah, I mean what it's well, like I said,
where's that Where is that crazy break even line? Is
it at thirty two times earnings? Is it at thirty six?
Is it thirty eight?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
You know, overvalues? Overvalued?

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
I don't know what When is that bridge too far?

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 34 (01:06:57):
I mean look in Japan that went to one hundred, right,
So I mean did it make any sense there? No,
it was absolutely insane, you know, That's how far it went.
So I mean you can't you can't, you can't dismiss
the idea that we keep rolling from here It's okay
to uh sach Abram chiefs when off for Bord Capital.
People want to reach out to you because it'd be
foolish not to you, brother.

Speaker 28 (01:07:17):
What do they do? Uh?

Speaker 34 (01:07:19):
Pretty easy to find Bordcapitalmanagement dot com. You can find
our daily podcast at Know Your Risk Podcast dot com.
Bordcapitalmanagement dot com. Know Your Risk Podcast dot com just
google us. Not hard to find and yeah, hopefully will
hear from me soon. Sounds good, brother, good doing it
and we'll talk to you next week.

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Inflation, Inflation, Inflation, How are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
Not great, not the worst, but not great? But is
this a sign of something to come?

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:13:43):
Unfortunately, Kate, the snapshot is not a pretty one because
we're back to three percent inflation in the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
For the first time since January.

Speaker 20 (01:13:52):
So these new numbers out for that prices were up
a point three percent between August and September.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
That's actually slightly better than expected.

Speaker 20 (01:13:59):
However, the annual inflation rate moved in the wrong direction,
from two point nine percent to three percent, and as
I mentioned, that is a new eight month high for inflation.
And when you yeah, when you look at the trend,
what's important to remember is that inflation was going in
the right direction right earlier this year. Back in April,

(01:14:20):
inflation went down to two point three percent. That's the
dip in the middle of that chart. So that goes
back to September, back when then candidate Trump was on
the campaign trail saying inflation was out of control. But
you can see clearly we're in a worse spot now
than we were last fall, when inflation was maybe the

(01:14:40):
biggest issue, certainly the.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Biggest economic issue on the minds of voters.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Absolutely, it's always about the economy, stupid. So you've got
the inflation situation. It isn't great, but it's not bad.
But also some of the stuff inside of the port
is showing some of the companies a decent amount did
eat a bit of the tariffs, but they've also let

(01:15:07):
it be known in the surveys and whatnot. Then the
people that they're talking to that that is ending. So
if these tariffs are going to be here, expect this
quarter to be the quarter where they're going to start
eating these tariffs. The consumers are rather than the people
who the importers who've had to pay.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
The tariffs asolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
So that's pretty telling.

Speaker 20 (01:15:28):
And when we dig into the categories to try to
understand the why here. Okay, gasoline prices did go up
between August and September, right, so during the mother September
prices were up. In fact, gas prices increased by about
eight percent on.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
A monthly basis. That was the biggest monthly increase in
about two years.

Speaker 20 (01:15:47):
But this is not just about gas prices, which are
you know, they're still relatively low.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Even if they they're still relatively low comparatively to what
we've had in the past.

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
Let's be real.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
They're they're doing okay, but remember think of compound interest,
think of all of the things. Everything has to trickle down.
It's not about scaring you, it's just about being aware.
You know, I was talking to somebody the other day,
it's like, well, you shouldn't say this, and you shouldn't
say that, you know about, you know, on my local show,
because you don't want to scare people. I said, no,

(01:16:18):
it's not about scaring people. It's about giving people the perspective. Look,
this is what things look like, right, proceed with caution.
I think most people understand that, and I get it.
I mean, do I think that this is all coming
to some sort of head and that the economy is
going to collapse? No?

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
But do I think you couple the government shut down
with inflation news and the fact that coming next what Saturday,
you're going to have the tariffs going on China supposedly.
Now we don't know how long those are gonn last,
if they're going to go in at all. But all
of these things are up in the air. And I
was talking to somebody yesterday, I don't even know what

(01:16:56):
tariffs are actually on at this moment in time.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
I don't. I mean, I would like to think, is
this is it that one is?

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Do we call this one off?

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
Or this this This country has tariffs, but they're only
kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
They're not all the way there, And you know, so
I have no idea, but I think we're going to
start to find out that a decent amount of tariffs
are in effect, especially over the next several weeks and months.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
They went up.

Speaker 20 (01:17:22):
Yes, yeah, they're Also this is about the grocery store,
which is another pain point for consumers, and which right
which is also being driven in part by tariffs, because
we did see significant increases for a number of different items.
Canned vegetables, ham other items of food went up.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
But then there's other.

Speaker 20 (01:17:39):
Tariff exposed items that have gotten more expensive. For example,
apparel peril went up by almost one percent on a
monthly basis.

Speaker 15 (01:17:47):
They warned this was coming. They warned that it was
coming in the.

Speaker 20 (01:17:49):
Wrong because so much of the clothes is they're imported,
so they are exposed to those tariffs. A girl's apparel
jumping by almost four percent on a monthly basis. And
then two other things that are exposed to tariffs that
I'll just call out. Appliances they went up significantly by
about two percent. And also some some furniture increased significantly.
We know that furniture just got tariffed by the president.

Speaker 17 (01:18:12):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Furniture, the furniture it's been tariffed by the President. But
some companies are eating it, let's be real, but they're.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Not going to eat it for long.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Companies, they said, shielded buyers according to New York Times,
but that isn't going to happen anymore. Cars, toys, tea
among the products set to be more expensive in the
coming weeks and months. And the toys is a big
deal obviously, And I think a lot of people also
got ahead of the tariffs. They bought because they expected

(01:18:47):
tariffs to be, you know, to be in play. Companies
have passed along about thirty percent of the new tariffs.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Consumers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
That's we had to pay nine percent onto suppliers, and
they absorbed fifty one percent through August.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
But they expect that to change.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
So I think in the coming weeks we're going to
start to see a little a little something different here
if if these tariff situations don't start to change, and
you know, we don't know what's going to happen. You know,
I was watching somebody today, uh talking about how fast
this administration and things go, and it was soccer and Jenny,

(01:19:26):
if you ever see it, he's great, they have breaking points.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
But he was saying, I just want to remind everybody
a week ago.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
So two weeks ago, we had the Israeli Hamas ceasefire
all that stuff. It's great, right and which is phenomenal,
and you guys have heard me talk about that. Then
you had last Friday. Zelensky's in here. Apparently he and
Trump get into an argument because he Trump's basically telling

(01:19:54):
him you need to give up the Dawn Bass region,
and Zelensky's like no, and so they got into another argument.
Nothing like what we you know, because it was it
was behind closed doors. Then Trump says, well, we're gonna
have a meeting with Putin because I talked to him
and everything seems to be good. Then he cancels the

(01:20:19):
meeting with Putin and then tells Zelensky, hey, you remember
when I told you when we argued that I wasn't
giving you any tomahawks. Yeah, they're on their way and
out of you. You knew what you want with them,
and I was like, yeah, So who knows what's gonna happen.
Time in this administration and in politics today is so
much different because not only twenty four hour news cycle,

(01:20:40):
but while that plays a part, and I also think
we want reactions in twenty four hours. We want solutions
in twenty four hours, and we want to see that
you're making an effort to find those solutions in twenty
four hours. That's a tough thing. That is, oh my lord,
gonna be interesting. Indeed, speaking of interesting, the nightmare for

(01:21:03):
the NBA and the gambling probe obviously is huge.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
Stephen A. Smith thinks there's more to it than just
the gambling issue.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
And that maybe.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Maybe Trump wanted some revenge.

Speaker 35 (01:21:20):
But anybody that has been around him, anybody that has
talked to him, anybody that has seen his reactions from
the sports leagues and the positions that people have taken,
they are not surprised at what's going on today. I'm
watching a press conference with the director of the FBI.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Tell me, when we've.

Speaker 35 (01:21:41):
Seen that, we've seen people, we've seen accusations before, We've
seen athletes get in trouble with the law before. You
don't see the director of the FBI having a press conference.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
It's not coincidental.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
It's not an accident.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
It's a statement, and it's a warning that Moore is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Oh more is coming. So I'm trying to figure this out.
So this was some sort of get back at the NBA.
I just want to tell everybody this has been going
on for quite a while, and the NBA maybe I
don't know what they knew what they didn't know, because

(01:22:22):
you know, the FBI might have brought them along a
little bit earlier in the process. But when we're talking
about this investigation, this has been.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
Going on for a few years. And by the way,
there is a new.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Video out that somebody found of a poker player who
was actually talking about this a few years ago, the
poker scam that was going on, and Johncy Billips he
mentioned by name as being a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
This must have been like five years ago, twenty nineteen ish,
la and then it came to Vegas for a few days,
and it was all built around Chauncey Billups.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
All built around Chauncey Billups.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
He goes on to tell a story of how he
knew and everybody had talked to and knew that the
game was BS and that it was it was fake.
It was it real that people were going in there
and they were getting absolutely obliterated. And now we're finding
out that they had special tables that were X rays.
They had glasses where you could see marks on the cards.

(01:23:29):
I mean, this was as they never stood a chance.
They didn't And Billups, you know yesterday it was just
about the poker game.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
We're coming to find out more that that ain't true either.

Speaker 7 (01:23:42):
The authorities said that these games had been going on
since at least twenty nineteen. This is a deep and
widespread alleged scam. Billips made his first appearance in court
in Oregon. He will come to Brooklyn to formally enter
his not guilty please, and then the prosecution will go
from there in Billips, according to federal prosecutors, was involved

(01:24:05):
in the other scheme too, the one that alleged certain
NBA figures provided inside information for sports betters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
They're talking about the fact that these coaches, because there's
another coach, Jaman Jones, that they were allegedly telling players
stats as far as their health, they were Lebron James
was one of the people they were talking about health wise.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
I mean, this is I mean, this is real issues.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
And Terry Rocher, by the way, who yesterday arrested the
Miami Heat player Moore's coming out that this guy was
absolutely doing the over under on himself, and I mean this,
I wouldn't be surprised if there's more than just this.
I'm sure the FBI probe is going to continue, but
the NBA today has to be figuring out how the

(01:24:57):
hell do we figure this out? Because our season just
started and all anybody's talking about is the fact that
this thing seems to be rigged and that isn't.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
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Speaker 17 (01:26:46):
Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, sera.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
What trupping?

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
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Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
The ween Les start with the Yahoo East Wing Demolition.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Tropical Storm, Melissa Chauncey billups pretty much trending everywhere, Rush
Ukraine war WHOOPI Goldberg. Apparently she had to clarify she's
not a racist after missing after admitting she says stupid
stuff when she is tired and drunk.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Okay, what somebody says stupid stuff while drunk, Get.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Out of town over to x JP Morgan, the Trump
administration's tear down to the east wing.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Venezuela. I have a feeling that we're heading there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
He also said he doesn't think he has to declare
anything if they do go into Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Nah, we don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Constitutions, Constitution, Qatar, Israel, Colombia, jd Vance, Candice Owens kind
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Phillips number one trending thing. Of course it should be
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(01:29:17):
Quinton Johnson, lots of stuff about the gambling. The mob
is one of the other things that's trending because people
are like, the mob still exist. It does the costinostra, right,
it's their thing. It's there, a little thing, but it
doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
But it does, but it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
The White House, though the demolition is upsetting some people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Do I understand that, Yes, I do not gonna be
one of these people that go, oh, but am I
going to overreact?

Speaker 24 (01:29:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
There, Look, the ballroom is going to be pretty cool,
I'm sure. Is it going to be three hundred what
is he three hundred, three hundred fifty million hour from
like two fifty to three fifty. But you know, people
are upset because there was some things they said they
weren't going to have to touch, and the East Wing
was supposed to be one of them, and they went
and did it, and that kind of pissed people off.

Speaker 21 (01:30:06):
I asked the White House. Why once they realized the
entire East Wing would have to go, they didn't tell
the American people.

Speaker 36 (01:30:12):
Look again, with any construction project, changes come. If you
look at the renderings, it's very clear the East wing
was going to be modernized.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
Now the east is well again.

Speaker 36 (01:30:22):
The President the plans changed when the President heard council
from the architects and the construction companies.

Speaker 21 (01:30:28):
The White House still has not submitted plans to the
National Capital Planning Commission, so we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
See some people are upset about it. I don't mind
modernizing some of it, do. I think, though, you need
to go through the proper you know, chain of command
with what we have here, because it's history. I think
that should be absolutely something you do. The reality is
he's gonna do what he wants to do. So there
you go, like him, hate him. He's Trump coming up.

(01:30:53):
Jim Kennedy Kennedy Institute Public Policy Research joins the program.

Speaker 6 (01:30:57):
We are going to talk about Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Among other things. It is to chet that the job.
Then Chad Benson Shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
Talking to our buddy Jim Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Kennedy Ants at a Public Policy Research that time of
the week, we talk about all kinds of stuff politics,
pop culture, and all the good stuff that's going on
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Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
Off the air, we were talking Jim about the you
know trum.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Trump says, yeah, you know, Pete X Seth, if he
wants to go over and talk to Congress about Venezuela,
he can go ahead and do that. But they basically,
you know, they can't stop us from doing anything. And
you said, well, that should make the left. I said,
you know, that should make every American if we really
go in there by land to take on Maduro in

(01:31:58):
that mighty Army of Venice, everybody right or left should say,
hold on a second, this feels like war and you
don't have the right to just go to war.

Speaker 37 (01:32:09):
Yeah, it depends upon how much action is required and stuff.
Because you get like, I think, doesn't he have thirty
days sixty days to notify Congress of things like that
under the War Powers Actor or Gulf of Talking Resolutions
if forgot which one is in effects, I guess it's
a War Powers Act.

Speaker 15 (01:32:24):
I think he's got thirty six days.

Speaker 37 (01:32:25):
The main thing he has to go to Congress to
get a to declare war, which we haven't. You know,
we don't declare war all the time. We're just going
to do these things and then like someone fills out
the paperwork in the back end and it's not really
a war. But also we need to get it for funding.
And of course there isn't any Congress to go get
funding from right now because they're shut down, so kind
of puts them in an odd place. But yeah, if
he really is gonna like if we're going to take

(01:32:46):
over and occupy a country, yeah we need to go
to Congress first to go do that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
If he's just going to kind of mess.

Speaker 37 (01:32:52):
Around in Venezuela, which I'm not necessarily saying, I'm completely
you know, for or against to be honest, that we yeah,
he can mess around for a little while before necessarily
has to go to Congress. But yeah, if you're really
are declaring war like you know, like as in nineteen
forty one declaring war, yeah, I definitely need to go
to Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
That's the way we do it.

Speaker 37 (01:33:11):
That's why we have a constitution.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
And he said this today, I think we're just going
to go in and kill people that are bringing drugs
into our country. Okay, he says, we're going to go
there kill them. You know, we're going to go there
to be like dead. So I don't see there's any
reason for us to go to Congress.

Speaker 37 (01:33:29):
Yeah, there probably is the reason going to Congress for that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah, yeah, he said he doesn't see any necessary reason
to do so.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
I don't what's the use of the whole constitution at
this point?

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
And I keep asking my friends, who are too many
of them are freaking just a bunch of terrified, little,
freaking trembling kids, about why don't you say stuff like
this when you tell me that, well, yeah, he shouldn't
do this stuff, but did you would never say this
outside of that because you're afraid it's the constitution?

Speaker 10 (01:33:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Like I mean, at this point, why don't you just
declare everybody you don't like a drug dealer and a
and an enemy combatant of terrorism of the US and
just do whatever you want.

Speaker 37 (01:34:09):
Well, don't get any ideas because he may start doing
that pretty soon. I mean, you know who, But think
about who who do we mess with?

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
There?

Speaker 37 (01:34:16):
Really isn't you know that he hasn't already declared a
terrorist organization? At least it's going to go declare war
and Antifa or Antifa, which he kind of already did
declare a terrorist organization. The Iranians are a terrorist organization,
has laws a terrorist organization. Hamas is a terrorist organization.
I think the who this are terrorist organization in Yemen.
So pretty much everybody that we mess around with, you know,

(01:34:39):
that we have spats with, is pretty much, you know,
short of us going to war against you know, Pakistan
or India. They you know, we haven't really you know,
declared them a terrorist state. But for the most part,
everybody we pretty much mess around with, they've already declared
them a terrorist state. So yeah, but that's not the rules.
You've got to basically, you know, we have a consolation
for a reason. Besides, you know, there ma may be

(01:35:00):
people out there and think is how is Susie Wilds
dealing with this? Because I can't see her being happy
about a lot of this, and she is like the
one person that supposedly has the ability to rein in Trump.

Speaker 17 (01:35:11):
He listens to her.

Speaker 37 (01:35:12):
I think she's threatening to quit seven hundred and forty
two times if he doesn't listen to her. And he's
got and he keeps going through chiefs of staff and
this one this time he hasn't, so I don't know why,
you know, she can't be happy about him going out
there and just talking off the cuff like that. So
it'll be interesting to see what happens when next time
she gets ahold of them and you know, lectures them
about doing this, if that makes a difference or not.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Talking to Jim Kennedy Kennedy Institute of Public Policy Research,
we talk about politics, pop culture and everything else. The
you know, it's funny you talk about the Independent. The
Independent is the fastest growing as far as the quote
unquote register is independent. We've only got two parties, Jim,
and both parties are well, they're they're kind of six

(01:35:53):
and one half dozen to the other right. They're there
for the job and the party. They're not there for
the people. And I think people are getting frustrated by it.
Saw the latest numbers today, like gonneriea is more popular
than Congress because at least she had to have fun
getting Gonerihea, you know, Congress doesn't do anything, And I'm
amazed that these these people sit around and think fifteen percent.

(01:36:17):
Trump at his worst in his first term, with all
the stuff hanging over, wasn't even close to fifteen percent.
They should be so lucky to be in the thirties.
Have you seen two more groups of people? I mean,
they take the cake of ineptitude.

Speaker 12 (01:36:34):
No.

Speaker 37 (01:36:34):
In Congress is Congress is for the last fifteen years
has pulled abysmally. There's I don't can't recall the time
that Congress has gotten maybe mid thirties for something.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
But that's a bit about it.

Speaker 37 (01:36:47):
Congress has been despised for at least the last fifteen
to twenty years. In general, they just, you know, they
don't do a lot of good things. And like I've
you know that I've mentioned before about this is that again,
the people that were getting into Congress in many cases
are there because they're looking to basically promote their own
brand or create a brand that will get them on

(01:37:08):
television or get them their own show, or get them
a podcast or something like that. There's tony of people
that are doing it for the public service aspect, but
those numbers seem to be going down and down, and
we seem to get and it's not just her publican
thing or a Democrat thing. It's on both sides of
the aisle. There is no party specific to this phenomena.
To where their people are out there trying to basically

(01:37:28):
create a brand by getting elected to Congress and promoting
themselves as you know what you call it political influencers
from Congress, and I think that's part of what's further
irritating people. They can seem to get a lot of
things done that seem to be that seem to be
common sense things. Right now you got the shutdown, you're
starting to get starting to get to where it's going
to start getting into people's wallets because now we're getting

(01:37:50):
into a new month that's not going to have any
budgeted items. So for example, like certain the food stamp
problem is getting shut down, a lot of the food
banks are getting shut down. But yeah, the problem of
going to an independent to a third party, I would
think you would need someone like an Elon Musk that's
got that kind of money and clout to go behind it,
because sometimes I'm thinking, I'm thinking you're going to need

(01:38:10):
at least a billion dollars plus to create a viable
third party because there are a lot of people out
there that I know that that don't want to deal
with politics because as far as they're concerned, they think
the public and the Democrats are the same party, just
with slightly different variances between them, and then you know
they're both corporate parties. It's like, well, no, there's a
lot of differences essentialies are getting on the local level

(01:38:31):
and the state level between the parties and what they
stand for.

Speaker 25 (01:38:35):
So that's not good.

Speaker 37 (01:38:36):
And I don't know if those are the type of
people that would be brought in the politics that aren't
that really aren't in that fifty percent that are participating
in national elections that would be interested in a third
party candidate. But again, you know, you brought up like
the Libertarian Party to be Libertarians are Republicans that want
they want legal weed. I've always said that it's maybe
a little bit of a you know, maybe a little

(01:38:57):
bit of a of a sarky comment in general on them,
but that's kind of what I look to there. They've
never been able to organize in any great numbers for anything,
that's been able to put third party candidates into any
office beyond you know, maybe a local elected official or maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
A state representative here and there.

Speaker 37 (01:39:14):
I don't count that Bernie Sanders thinking he's a Democrat,
or the Angus King thing in Maine because he's basically
a Democrat too, So I mean King's a former Republican
who actually just got po'ed at the party and walked
away from it. So as far as the Independent Party,
you know, it's been trying a bunch of times, and
you've got to get someone who's really got a lot
of money and really has a strong belief they've really
got to stand for something that's going to make a

(01:39:36):
people take notice. And I think you're going to need
to get the people that aren't currently voting, because I
think the people you already got are too much into
their tribes to William to go to a third party
thinking that they're going to give up what their tribe
is standing for.

Speaker 6 (01:39:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
you've got a couple of minutes, your Jim, when does
the government shut down? And who gets the blame? Because
that's what this is about. This is about power and
who feels they can go the longest. Right now, I
saw what's his name, Frank Luntz today said, look, right now,
nobody is getting blanked for this, and so there is

(01:40:10):
no winner, which means that everybody else kind of is
the loser, because until there's a clear winner. As far
as who withstands this the longest, nobody's coming to the table,
who do you think is going to blink first?

Speaker 37 (01:40:22):
That's a good question. I would think that it could
be Thanksgiving till somebody blinks. I don't think they're going
to be able to kind of sell people over Thanksgiving
with the many people that are going to be short
of food come that time of the year, which is
it's only four or five weeks away. But I think
that that somebody will blink by then, and I think
that Democrats will blink. As far as a real winner,

(01:40:43):
there never really is a winner, because I mean, the
American public loses, the people that aren't getting paid or losing.
And at this point you don't really every I mean,
who won the two thousand and nineteen shot down, I
don't really even remember who you know who won that,
who even blinked? Just basically, these things, once they are
once there no longer in the forefront, people just kind of,
you know, just file them away and move on toward

(01:41:04):
the next christ were the next crisis. And remember with Trump,
there is so much coming up every day. It seems
like that this will quickly pass, even in a twenty
four hour news cycle, once it is solved, and I
think the Democrats will blink because they'll find you know,
Trump's not hurting. His popularity's not going down, He's not
hurting from this. The Republicans aren't really hurting very much
from this. The Democrats maybe hurting a little bit from this.

(01:41:27):
But I don't think any again, like you said, I
don't think there really is anybody who's drastically losing until
one party does. I don't think there really is going
to be movment unless somebody is able to, you know,
move them emotionally on the fact that we're coming to
Thanksgiving and people that need food assistants aren't getting it.
And I don't think you want to be you know,
either party wants to see people at Thanksgiving not having

(01:41:48):
food on their plate, to have anything to be thankful forgiving.

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
No, no doubt about that. That is not a good look.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
all right, Jim, the Dyers taking on the Canadian Blue
Jays from Toronto.

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You know, I know who you're going with. You're going
with the same pick. I'm going with which is the dollars.

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And what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Dodgers and six I'm gonna go Dodgers in five.

Speaker 37 (01:42:13):
I they'll win it here. They have not won a serie.
They've not won the World Series in Los Angeles since
I believe nineteen sixty three. So if they can, if
they can win it in five, they will win it
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
He has spoken, Therefore it cannot be challenged ever. Jim Kennedy. Kennedy,
it's the out of public policy research. Good talking to you, brother.
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 15 (01:42:35):
Thanks Chad.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
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today and our scary movie countdown.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Freddie with Scissors sounds great compared to this.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
We're still on our march to number one scariest movies
of all time according to the Chatometer, and this one
today based in a true case of exorcism that took
place in the seventies in West Germany.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
It is frightening and amazing. Are you ready? We're at
number six. Let's get to it. The time has.

Speaker 19 (01:45:08):
Come, so prepare yourself for a journey of fear from
the darkest corner of cinema, the most bone chilling tales
ever told. It's the countdown you've been waiting for. Which
movie will take the top spot. You'll have to listen
to find out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Are you ready?

Speaker 19 (01:45:31):
Number six?

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
Number six? This movie is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Several of you recommended it and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna go watch it again and it is absolutely
up there. Came out in two thousand and five. Yesterday
we did a movie, sinceter right, amazing movie. Scary movie
directed by Scott Dereckson. This movie, directed by Scott Derekson,
starring Laura Lenning, Tom Wilkinson, and Jennifer Carpenter came out

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and five the movies called The Exorcism of Emily Rose.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
I don't care about my reputation.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
What I care about is telling Emily Rose's story.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
To cross Satan good need?

Speaker 34 (01:46:24):
Do you understand how long they can put you away
for this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
I want people to hear what only I can tell
and what is that? What really happened to Emily?

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
And why?

Speaker 15 (01:46:35):
So she believed that her actual possession began that night
of the hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
I think she did.

Speaker 28 (01:46:41):
Emily, Hey, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
It has begun.

Speaker 6 (01:47:06):
Such a great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
So the movie came out nineteen million dollar budget, one
hundred and forty five million made. It's often considered one
of the few exorcism movies that successfully mixes courtroom procedure
and horror, because when you're Tom Wilkins in there, he's
an amazing actor. He plays the priest who is charged
with her death because of the exorcism, and he goes

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on trial, and it is incredible because it mixes the
courtroom drama but also the fright that comes with her exorcism,
and it is just amazing. Now people are saying, why
is it so scary, Well, first of all, it's loosely
based on an actual case in Germany, West Germany at

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the time, a woman by the name of Annalise Michelle
who ended up dying and her fam Emily and the
priests were charged in her death. This is a tape,
an actual tape of part of the exorcistem and it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
Is creepy name, so creepy, so creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Indeed, an amazing movie, a scary movie, but a movie
that again, as somebody who's not into gore and horror,
if you watch this movie, it is gripping and incredible
with the courtroom drama but also the flashbacks of this
young girl that is just amazing. Number six in our
horror movie Countdown The Exorcism of Emily Rose. Three two, three, five,

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