Oxford Word of the Year Is "Rage Baiting"

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is great to be back. I am refreshed, and
I want to thank Craig for filling in for me.
It's good to have time off, reset a little bit,
and I'll tell you why. The Oxford word of the
Year is rage bait. We live in a world of
rage bait, and I got to be honest with you.
It pours the hell out of me. We try to

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do our show here differently. Do we piss some people off? Yes?
Do I piss off both sides? Absolutely? Am I more
interested in solutions than problems? Yes? And it's unfortunate that
we are in this world right now where the only
thing that matters is rage bait. That's it. And I'm

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talking about the world of politics right sports even forgot.
I mean, this weekend you had Lane Kiffin leave Ole
Miss go to LSU and the rage bait and insanity
that I saw out there because of that is incredible.

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It doesn't matter what it is anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We joke we do a hot take Tuesday on my
local show where we throw it hot takes, but the
hot takes have nothing to do with politics and all
silly things, right Like, I don't like raisins and it's funny,
but the reaction I get even in those situations is tremendous.
And we live at a time now where look, the

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right has mastered this and the algorithms. They figured out
way quicker than the left did how to use the algorithms,
and having time off was great. I didn't follow any politics.
I didn't follow anything. I mean, obviously, if the world
went to hell in a hand basket, I would know

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what's going on. But the reality is I focused on
hanging out with my family. No rage bait, no fighting,
none of that stuff. Rage baiting wins the day. And
the beauty of it is, if you're a politician, rage
baiting is all that matters because it then takes everybody's

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eyes off actually solving any problems, which we know is
something none of them want to do because there's no
money in the problems, there's no power in the problems,
there's no fiefdom that they can rule over. If the
situation that you want a solution to is fixed, it's

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the exact opposite of what you get in the private sector.
In the private sector, you find a problem and then
you come up with a solution, and you become successful
in the political world. You find a problem and you
decide run with that problem, use that problem, divide people

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with that problem. There is your success, not a solution
rage bait.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I don't know which part of this compound noun bothers
me more that social media algorithms look for and feed
to us the worst part of our political diet, or
that we so eagerly gobble it up and reward anyone
who pitches this poison. People who are developing platforms on

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social media, if you see them popping up, they are
doing exactly this. This is what made the right righteous
on social media. Okay, they have been dominant there for
a while. The left is catching up and they're doing
it the same way they are.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I've seen it. But it should matter what the topic is.
It should matter, Hey, is there something real here? Can
we find a solution to a problem. It's not about that.
I'm telling you guys, it's not about that. And I
discussed this all the time with the powers that be
that I work with, because they know I don't do

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rage bait. They know that I can't do crazy hyperpolely
because it makes me laugh and I find it ridiculous.
They know that. I mean, it's just one of those
things where that's not me because they don't overreact. And
I think a lot of that's do with that that
I played in sports for so long, and I just
the pressure that that kind of stuff that I was

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heaped upon as a youngster going to Europe as a kid,
that kind of stuff of people screaming and yelling. I
just kind of put that to the side. I don't
know what it is. What makes me sad, what makes
me pissed off is the fact that everybody, as Chris
Cuomo put there, buys into it. That's what frustrates the
hell out of me. People buy into it. Why do

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you buy into it? Why do you buy into all
of this stuff that's an overreaction. Why do you buy
into this, the fact that somebody presents you with truth
and you get angry at them. Why is it that
we consume it? We're addicted to this as much as
it is out there. We're only seeing this more and
more because we're asking for it more and more.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Tell yourselves what you want, feel any way you want
about it. Nobody on the left was raised with more
deep roots in the Democratic Party than I was, and
I'm telling you you're doing what you say you oppose.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's rage bait all day, okay, and.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Everyone doing it knows it makes everything worse except one thing,
their bank accounts.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
The irony.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
One of the main avenues of rage bait is what
making people hate elites, privileged insiders?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
What's it all code for rich?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
But at the same time, those people who are trying
to make you hate those people are using these tactics
to get rich.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's why on the left.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
And the right you see more and more people trying
to cash in on driving the rest.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Of us crazy.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Scroll through your feed, affordability, healthcare ideas, price fixing.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Why aren't those things trending? Because they're not entertaining. All
that matters is entertaining. Nothing else matters entertaining for the
sake of entertaining. No entertaining through rage. Because rage does

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what causes an emotion? What does emotion do? It causes
you to then pay attention and usually participate answer stick
around longer. Rage works. It's one of the things I
always tell you here when you listen to us, is

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we I want to find solutions to problems. Solutions doesn't
sell in the world of anger. Anger sells easier. Do
you know how much bigger I would be if I
just come in here and I just played crazy stuff
and we have fun with that once in a while.
But I can't do it every day because it's just insane,
and both sides are insane, because both sides have figured

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out it's just easier for me to grab the low
hanging fruit and to pick the five percent on each
side who willing to engage, and then the rage happens,
and then it's just it is infuriating. I tell my
wife that all the time. Infuriating is when you can
have a conversation with people, because it's just easier to
scare them and to get them angry, then have a

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conversation that is based in nuance and reality. It's just easier.
I want you to react now. I don't care about
your long term quote unquote reaction. I just want it
all now, as fast as I can get it, because.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
What works is not solving. What works as exploiting problems.
Look at what's trending again. The proof is there for
all of us to say, this isn't hidden the President's
MRI results. I want to show them how hegseth sucks
for the boat strikes. Why Stephen Miller is a Nazi

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according to some rage bait podcast chanting globalize the Intifada
at the sight of the Boston marathon bombing, Trump pardoning
the latest bad guy them Honduran drug lord. At the
same time, we're going to go after Venezuela for drugs.
Why all of these topics are designed to.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Piss you off. They are all heat, no light.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
And look, I know, I know, depending on your side, Well,
hold on, I agree with some of it, but not
that what Trump did.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Or on the other side, Oh do I hold on a.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Second, but that one is really bad. That's the Left,
I know, because you have been trained to believe that
whatever is good for your side is good, and whatever
is good for the other side is bad.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
And it's about the tribalism. You don't want to get
kicked out of the tribe, so you're going to react
in such a way, even if you're resented with evidence
in the contrary, You're going to figure out a way
to get rage and angry. It is so frustrating, it is,
And I sit here every day and I think, what
the hell happened to common sense? What the hell happened

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to conversation? What the hell happened to nuance? What the
hell happened to us? We're just being fed the things
that we want, and that is the frustrating thing. We
got to want better. If we want to see real change,
we got to want better. I've said this over and over.
I never want my president to fail. I don't care
who he or she is, and I don't care who

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gets the credit, as long as the job that gets
done is the job that needs to get done. But
we live in a time when it's sell the sizzle, not.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
The stake, so we hop from one provocation to the
next and lose sight of what should matter, like making
healthcare more affordable. Remember the shutdown that was trending when
it pissed you off, and it was supposed to be
about what fighting the good fight for ACA subsidies and beyond,
because affordability issues with healthcare affect everybody, not just those

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using the ACA and needing subsidies to do so.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But where to go. It's gone because it doesn't work
as well. So true rage bait is not just the
word of the year, it's the reality of our modern time,
and we should rage against that. But unfortunately, we like

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reality TV. We like the shiny object. We don't care
about what happens behind the curtain, which is a shame.
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It has been almost one year since Luigi Mangioni became
known to America as the man who allegedly gunned down
Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare CEO. Remember that horrific it's
been almost one year. Now they're back in court.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
One year after prosecutors say Luigi Mangioni brazenly assassinated the
CEO of United Healthcare in Midtown Manhattan. The twenty seven
year old is due in court for a multi day
hearing that could determine the balance of evidence in his
state murder trial. Mangoni's attorneys are trying to limit prosecutors
from using key evidence, including a three D printed gun
and purported journal writings they say police illegally obtained last

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year when they searched Mangoni's backpack during his arrest without
a warrant.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now this is a big deal because if they were
to get this thrown out, saying, hey, everything in the
backpack is unadmissible, what do they have? They have no
smoking gun, They've got nothing. I mean, they don't a's
journals that literally, the smoking gun, the three D printed gun,
all of the things in there out it is just

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words versus words. He said, he said, how do you
know it's me on the camera? That kind of stuff.
I mean, it would weaken the entire case. And that's
a big if. Obviously, it's a big if. Remember they
thought all kinds of things when they approached him in
that MacDonald's.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
The defense has said that Mangioni's backpack was searched ostensibly
because police feared that he might have a bomb. But
we saw video of the officers approaching, and there are
eight or nine of them that eventually come round, and
none of them look particularly worried that there's any kind
of an explo device. And you even see a McDonald's

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employee going in and out of a nearby broom closet,
and other customers walking by to go to the restroom.
So no one seems particularly concerned that there would be
any kind of a bomb.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, they don't. And the whole thing is they believe
the defense is making. The argument against the prosecution is, hey,
you had no warrant for his backpack. You didn't even
read him or advise him of his rights. You just
went grabbed the backpack, look through it. And now everything

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that you did up until that point before you read
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all that out, they would probably have to go and
rethink the charges. I don't know, not quite sure what
they would do, or just take a chance. You can't
say we're not going to try him, but do you
try him on other things? I don't know. We'll find out. Meanwhile,
across the pond, if you will over to Ukraine, we
can talk to our buddy Mike, Leon's military analyst coming
up in a little bit about this. But what is

(16:18):
going on there because so much has been focused on Venezuela,
which we'll also talk to Mike about.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Putin has been signaling publicly that he is not ready
to compromise. He has been repeating his demand that Ukraine
would draw from all the territory that he claims. He
has said that it is pointless to sign a deal
with President Zelenski, suggesting that he is illegitimate. And here
in Ukraine today, the war continues to rage unabated. We
have seen Russia launch a missile strike against the southeastern

(16:45):
city of Denipro, hitting a warehouse run by a humanitarian organization.
At least four people killed there and over forty injured.
These sorts of attacks happening daily.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Putin still holds all the cards, So why would he
want to give anything up at this moment in time?
Who is really designing this piece plan? If there is one,
it's Putin and his people. Do I think that they're
gonna get anything done? I don't because at this moment
in time, there's no reason for He doesn't need the
off ramp. He knows that Trump and them aren't really
gonna do anything. So it's really up to Europe if
they want to see this thing come to some sort

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of end by pushing back against Putin. We'll see, we'll see.
We're gonna ask Mike Lions coming up a little bit
about this. It's gonna be I think the hyper focus
is on Venezuela. What's going on there here in America
and Europe. You're gonna have to figure this one out,
I think. Let me know what you think. Three two, three, five,
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straight ahead.

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Speaker 2 (18:04):
Is that time of the day. We talked to our
good buddy Mike Lyons, military analysts, retired major in the
Army and the best damn military guy around period. Case closed,
and he knows the ends, the outs and all of
that stuff. And after the recovery of you know, hockey,
which you were doing and eating all the turkey, we
got to talk unfortunately, war and there's a lot of
it out there. Hope you had a good holiday, brother.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
At chat all good, had a great holiday, Go get
some some time, sit down with the family, and did
some hockey. But ready to get back at it. We
have a lot of stuff going on in that's wascurity
front right now.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
So you got a great article and you send it
to me. We talked a bit about it yesterday. You
sent it to me today about Ukraine and Russia. We'll
get to Venezuela and some of the other stuff in
a minute, but the whole thing with Ukraine and Russia,
you hit it spot on, man. This isn't this isn't
a truth. This is a truth, This isn't a war's over.
We're all happy, go lucky, this is hey, you know what,
no more killing, but the war's not done yet.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
I think this is at best in armast and it's
just a pause that we'll take this brutal conflict into
the future that's going to leave more questions un answered.
And this is just as administration trying to get any
deal done at this point, aside to trying to get
real peace that's there. And I think that's why I

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think this really matters right now, because it's winner. I
think that there's so many things going on the battlefield
in this case going forward, this is really not going
to solve this problem. So from my perspective, we've replicated
the situation in Korea from nineteen fifty three, and we're
going to create a situation in Eastern Europe that's going
to provide an open door for more invasions and much

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less security and much less peace.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
I think in a time when we need just the opposite.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, Mike, you talk about that, and you brought
up some great things in the article about Russia right
now has no reason to stop. And the people putting
this together realistically, I mean, Zelensky's got to sell it
to his people. Look, guys, the killing is going to stop,
but we're giving up a lot and there isn't a
lot of guarantees that I think would make them happy.
I think they're just counting on the fact that maybe

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everybody in Ukraine just wants this over.

Speaker 9 (20:10):
I think that's what it is. They want the killing
to stop. We all want the killing to stop. There's
no question about that. There can't really be a security
guarantee in Europe without NATO.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
It's just as simple as that.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
Now, I don't think that NATO necessarily is put in.
Ukraine becomes part of NATO right away and it's an
instant solution, but you're going to have to have NATO troops,
NATO security type organizations, interoperat ability with military units there.
You know, that same non aggression structure that ruled the

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day back in the nineties when Ukraine gave up its
nuclear weapons just didn't work. The West didn't come to
Ukraine's aid here three years ago, or actually fifteen years
ago when they first took place. But so I think
that they're going down the same path again that can
keeps getting kicked down the road, and without NATO being
involved somewhat, this is really not going to work.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Why should they trust us? Though, that's the whole thing.
We signed something said, hey, were you giving up your nukes?
We really appreciate that. Don't worry, We've got your back.
And then when push came to show, we're like, oh,
the other guy signed that, that wasn't us. Why should
they believe anything we're going to be about now?

Speaker 9 (21:19):
You know, this is a classic Russian thought about how
the West operates. That they can we can grind down
their will to negotiate, grind down their ability to try
to create some kind of peace in that region there
and knowing that the Allies play out their differences on
all the world stage to see, and recognizing that each

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of these different NATO countries has different capabilities, and Donald
Trump uses the leverage of the United States over all
of them. At this point, I think the you know,
the country is close to the situation. Poland feel very
comfortable because I do believe that NATO gives them that
security blanket that they've not had, and so I can
understand why Ukraine would want this. But again, this is

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more or less shaping out to be what's this boundary
going to look like between Ukraine and Russia? Put up
a DMZ, And here we go back to nineteen fifty three.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Talking to my clients military analysts. We talk about all
things military and all the things going on conflicts globally.
What do you think is going to happen in Venezuela.
We have fifteen thousand troops there. Now it feels like
it's getting closer and closer to something. Maduro one minute,
you know, he's like, here, take all the oil you want,
and that's not good enough for us. I don't know

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what's going to happen. I just think something is going
to happen.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
So I'm looking for that comparative again.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
And I guess it's technically possible that the United States
could design, maybe execute some kind of operation to capture Maduro.
But this is way more complex, risky, escalatory than anything
that took place in eighty nine when we grabbed the
dictator back then, and just cause in Oriega, So is

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this same thing kind of doable back then? You know,
back back in eighty nine, we had troops in Panama,
we had logistics, we had the army involved, and that,
to me is the key to this whole thing. The
army is nowhere in the Caribbean right now, And we're
not invading anybody without the military involved, without the army
in particular. And you know Panama was different back then,
so Venezuela is. It's just not the same situation, you know,

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thinking about maybe that's what they're thinking. Special opscuys are
going to go in there and just pinprick and just
take out Maduro. I just I just again can't see it.
Venezuela so much larger, difficult, terrain, dense urban areas, years
of decay, you know, just top to bottom. The mission
is just layered with risk over risk on a much
more detailed military. So I'm still not sure what the

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strategy is right now with trying to get him to leave.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
No, and I don't think he's going to leave, even
though I think his neighbors would like them not to
the US not to invade because of him. But I
continue to go back to this, Mike. We're great at
the first part, right, We're great at getting rid of
whoever's there. We're awful at the second part, especially over
the last in a four or five decades, which is
replacing them with somebody where hell doesn't fall apart, Right,

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And I could easily see this becoming Libya where we
go in, we think we've done something, or we he
finally is deposed or whatever happens, and all of a sudden,
instead of it becoming the things that we thought it
was going to become, it becomes a healthscape.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
Yeah, i'd absolutely spot on.

Speaker 9 (24:21):
You know, we've got that raw military capability to you know,
penetrate Venezuelan defenses and certain special ops guys infiltrate and
you know, high value targets, you know, go after what
we need to do, use cyber you know, shape that battlefield.
We do all those things, blow a lot of things up.

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But to your point, we can't figure out what happens next.
That wouldn't know what to do. And that country has
ripe been natural resources, rareroath minerals unless we're ready to
come right behind it with some other military and state
department that we've always failed on doing. Uh, it can
even fall a lot further. This is it's being masked

(25:02):
as this drug traffic operation, and I think that's where
we've got to, you know, recognize that that we're going
after some of the sources. Most of it's in Columbia
though actually it's not necessarily Venezuela though they're the you know,
they seem to be the mule of these drugs. But again,
you bring this all together, the risk, the political costs,
what's a clear uncertain endgame on this and this insurgency

(25:26):
that would happen in our hemisphere, for this nor Diega
style decapitation operation.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
I just sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Talking to MIKEA. A. Liones military analysts, we talk about
all things in the military world. The things are going on.
So Mike, the whole thought process is Maduro's bad, he's evil,
he's a you know, drug dealer. But hold on, We're
going to pardon another guy who ran a country who
was also the same thing we say Maduro is, and
he was actually convicted here in the United States. And

(25:54):
I just feel like you're selling these things to the
American people in the wrong way. You're doing a disservice
to the voter, to the American people, and you're doing
disservice to our men and women in uniform when you're
selling something that seems like you have no idea what
you're doing. This.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
Yeah, that pardon in that individual looks like this is
one of these benefits of the doubts that I believe
that the administration feels that person was wrongly accused.

Speaker 10 (26:17):
Now again I.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
Don't know enough about it's more of a legal aspect
of it, but it doesn't it doesn't appear that this
administration has explained itself enough, and I think that still
has to come. I think that maybe they will, but
I don't know what whether or not this will lead
to more political let's say, concern from the Republican side

(26:40):
at least to say, hey, listen, what exactly.

Speaker 10 (26:42):
Is going on with that situation?

Speaker 9 (26:43):
So I'm going to, you know, for now, let's see,
give the administration the benefit of the doubt, but we
still need some information on what went down with that
as well.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, giving them the benefit of the doubt. I
think we're seeing more and more people that are stepping
up on the right side of the aisle and saying, hey,
you know, we need some more questions answered, and we
also need some some serious conversation about what's going on.
You're striking these drug boats. You've got this situation. Now,
where did Heseth order something? But now it's the admiral

(27:16):
who did it, and they killed these two guys that
survived the first you know, a strike in September and
it is this is again, we don't even know what
they had on there. We don't know what. You know,
this is becoming one of those situations where you saw
this coming and it feels like, Okay, what are we
facing here? Are we facing illegal strikes? Are they legal strikes?

(27:39):
Do we know what they actually had? Where's the proof?
More and more Republicans I see are asking questions besides
just the Democrats.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
I thought that what the Secretary put out yesterday was inappropriate,
basically shifting all the blame to the admiral that was
that he said was responsible.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
For the attacks.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
I mean, you know, the initial Washington host To article
likely didn't have all the correct facts.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
You know.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
I didn't really comment a lot about this because I
wanted to see a lot of that come out, because
there are a lot of ifs. You know, of course
that we should not be shooting at non combatants, let's say,
from a law of land warfare perspective.

Speaker 10 (28:17):
However, from from where I what.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
I would understand about a target like this, and having
talked to people in the Navy that our weapons systems
officers and alike, first of all, they're not they don't
necessarily have eyes on the target. They're assuming that if
they're given they're given clear to fire, that that that
a target's legal. If if if they've determined that hitting
the boat the first time is a legal target, well

(28:41):
then finishing it off the second time is a legal target.
It doesn't matter who's clinging to the side of it,
whether it's Robinson, Caruso Arose from the Titanic, it doesn't
matter who's cleaning to the side of it.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
So a legal target is still a legal target.

Speaker 9 (28:55):
So that that's my perspective of it. And it looks
like again I'd not sure the secretary orders something that's
you know, unless there's an audio of him saying, let's
kill them all, then okay, then he's going to obviously,
you know, have to face those repercussions. But I think
this has been this has been generated in a lot

(29:15):
of ways, and it's pierced a very unfortunate veil because
there's professionals involved up, up and down the chain of
command when it comes to acquiring these targets and taking
them out.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
You know, that's a great question. You've got professionals up
and down right, You and I have talked about this,
Who are going, Okay, I'm going to listen. You know,
I'm giving orders. I'm going to follow these orders. But
it feels like there's this disconnect, like we're going after
these boats that supposedly, but we don't know what's on
those things. There hasn't been proven anything. We blow a
little boat up in the middle of twenty four hundred

(29:45):
miles away from the shores of America. We don't exactly
know what's on any of those things. So is there
any worry that they could get in trouble like any
of the men up and down, Because, like you said,
I think what Heset did the other day and the
whole thing with like blaming the admiral, I would be
a little bit worried for my you know, Am I
going to get thrown under the bus on something here? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (30:05):
And what Mark Kelly said about the fact that when
basically the Democrats come back in power, they're going to
hold responsible people chain of command for doing this, that's
completely inappropriate. I mean, this is we've pierced this veil
here of confidence in the chain of command and it's
and it started with that video. And it seems as
though we've created a situation of this illegal orders are

(30:29):
given now and we're looking for you know, or a solution,
looking for a problem to solve it, and it's it's
I think it's really damaging. It's damaging the civilian military relations.
I think it's going to take maybe another generation. But
if we're talking about the things that he's saying, and
that's bringing military members to bear over decisions four years

(30:50):
from now that they made today, that's me lie stuff
and the liking and where we have all this information available,
We have the video, we have audio, we can see
what's going on, and everything is not in the right context.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
So we're we're in this real slippery slope.

Speaker 9 (31:06):
I think I think maybe the administration should release information
that talks more about the strategy and going after the
boats and the proof that they have as to why
they're legal military targets. They say their military targets because they,
you know, have declared war on on terrorism here at
this point. But again, you still can't necessarily shoot people

(31:30):
that are surrendering.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
I'm not sure people floating around on a boat they
are still surrendering that I saw this comment that was
made that they could still call somebody else to come
help them.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
That's true.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
And again if that target has still not been destroyed,
that's still illegal target from the first hit as well.

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From the Ohio Valley to Appalachia, all the way up
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Speaker 8 (35:46):
He is.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
He's a politician in California. Yeah, it's good. Oh wait,
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he wants to remain a politician in office. Yeah, you
might have to to Texas. We're going to talk about
that the big race happening in Tennessee, that the Republicans
have been hyper focused on and what I mean hyper focus.
They have turned Afton Baine the lady running into the

(36:09):
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
It is a big day in Tennessee because it is
the seventh District, the race that has consumed the Republicans
actually over the last several weeks. And the reason is simple.
Afton Maine, who is a local politician right she's been

(37:16):
at the state level, jumped into the race for the
retiring Mark Green, and she is taking on a guy
by the name of Matt Van Epps. Now I know
Afton pretty well, Okay, polar opposites in what I believe,
and I've met Matt once. I interviewed him a couple

(37:37):
of weeks ago. Nice guy, everything that you know. He's
exactly if you went to like Central Cast and go like,
gimme a guy that has checks all the boxes for
patriotic trumper. He's that guy. Aften is closing in in
fact to the point where it has been all hands

(38:00):
on deck for the last ten or so days for
this race, and it is about to get serious. And
there's a lot more to it than just whether or
not she's a good politician or he's a bad one.
There's a lot more to this.

Speaker 14 (38:15):
Democratic candidate Afton Baine is a progressive, but she's running
on this message of affordability, something that Democrats want to
make the center of their campaigns to retake the House
and maybe the Senate next year. So how far can
this message go, I think is the question for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
It could go far except for the fact. Now I'm
going to say this right now and I'm talking to
Afton a little bit later. She can come on my
local show. I'll play some of that for you tomorrow.
I don't think she's gonna win. I think the Republicans
pull this out. But it's the what you have to
look at is how big of a margin was there.

(38:53):
This was a district where Trump won by twenty two points.
The reason she's not doing better, and I'm gonna tell
you guys this right now again, here's the thing. When
Aften she when I first got out here to Tennessee.
My producer Bell, great guy headless Bells we call because
he refused to be on camera, says to me, Hey,

(39:13):
Afton Baine's coming in today. I'm like, all right, I
don't know who she is. She she's fun, uber, progressive,
thorn in the side, the whole nine yards. I said, okay, cool,
and I got attacked because we did an hour. We
just bs. We talked about all kinds of stuff. We
didn't argue and fight because you know me, I don't
do that. It's not what I do. And she was
real cool, she's fun. I don't again her politics. She

(39:37):
believes a lot of it. She doesn't have a you
know my buddy Matt who he comes on after me.
He and I have chatted about this before. It's not
grounded in reality. The reason that Madonnie won is because
he was able to He's a much better politician, right,
because that's what everybody's They're comparing her to AOC, they're
comparing her to Mandani. That's what the Republicans have done.

(40:00):
By the way, the Republicans have made her a much
bigger deal than she probably should have been. Also because
they didn't do anything. I will say this man, she
believes a lot of this stuff, and she's out there
every day. She's banging on doors, she's talking to people.
She's out there every single day putting in signs, going
up and talking to people. And the affordability thing is huge.

(40:23):
It is. But she has also been in a situation
where she has said stuff about, well, you know, I
don't really like Nashville, and it was and I defended her,
said I was the only one who defended her because
it was twenty twenty. She said it as And she
continues to kind of say, it's not that I don't
like Nashville. She loves Nashville. But she says, look, do

(40:44):
I like the pedal taverns? Know? Do I like the
woo woo girls that are here for Bachelotte parties?

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Know?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
They drive everybody crazy and drive everybody in Nashville crazy.
At times she said that I get it, but it
didn't come out great. She's also been out there trying
to block ice and do a lot of those things
that you know what, that's a perfect foil for the
Republicans that go, look what a radical she is. Where

(41:11):
she has gone really wrong, though, is stuff about the police.
She has not answered the questions that have been put
in front of her. Some of the things she said
in the past have been very radical, where you easily
could have come back and said, look, I don't want
to defund the police. That was the summer of love,
remember that, George Floyd. I think we need a new

(41:33):
and reimagining of the police. I want us to be safe,
but I want our police to be safe. There are
ways that she could have gone about doing things that
she just didn't, and that's why I don't think it's
going to be you know, they had it this weekend
right around two point different. I don't think it is.
I think this guy wins Matt Vann Apps by ten.

(41:54):
But it's closer than it should have.

Speaker 15 (41:56):
Been said from the beginning, since Mom Donnie was on
the scene. Is coming to a city near you. This
is where the energy is. Whoever is in power in
the White House typically has a hard time in that
first midterm. AOC has figured out, Okay, she's picking people.
Matt Banepps, you could not find a better candidate. Each

(42:16):
checks all that, he's amazing American, it's patriotic, and he's
willing to serve.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And yet it's this close.

Speaker 15 (42:22):
I do think that he will win, hoping, but in
fact the fact that it is close is a warning
sign to Republicans everywhere that this democratic energy from the
far left is not going to stop, and it won't
be Deskin un necessarily, but you'll have Democrats. Maybe Harold
will say she's not a real Democrat. No, like this
is actually where the party is going. She campaigned with

(42:45):
AOC the weekend before the election. That tells me that
they're not worried about her.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
No, that's not where the party is. The average person's
not there. If you put a Democrat who wanted to
only talk about affordability, if you put a Demomocrat in
there who would say, look, we need to absolutely get
rid of criminal illegal immigration, immigrants whatever you want to
call him, undocumented whatever. If you were to have some

(43:13):
common sense in there and continue to stick to affordability,
I think that they would have made this race even
closer and had a chance to win. But what it
does show is how close this race is, not because
of her, but not even because of him, because he's
exactly what you would think. I mean, like I said,
if you go to central casting, Matt van Apps is
that guy. He's a you know, he's a former veteran.

(43:36):
I still think he serves in Tennessee National Guard, who's
a helicopter pilot. He has seen active duty in war zones.
He looks the parts, got the perfect I mean, it's
again Central casting perfection. It has nothing to do with him.
It has all to do with the fact that people
are pissed. They're pissed because life feels unaffordable because it is.

(43:59):
They're pissed because they feel like the Republicans are continuing
to do whatever Trump says, and they're gaslighting them when
it comes to affordability, and that they they are paying
attention to the things that are happening locally here, in
particular unaffordability when it comes to housing. You're going to
see prices shoot up, when it comes to the ac
all of that stuff, and they should be talking about affordability, affordability, affordability. Again,

(44:24):
if you put a different candidate who's a Democrat, not
even a Centrist because that's ridiculous, Just a regular old
Democrat in there who talks affordability and has some common sense.
I think this race is the Democrats to lose. But
they've got the perfect foil. But It took Mike Johnson
coming here. It took millions of dollars being poured in here,
It took Donald Trump calling in when Mike Johnson was here.

(44:48):
It took I mean, it has taken a lot for them,
which shows you there are some serious issues that they
need to fix before next year. Because if I was
to tell you where I think this thing's going next year,
I'm gonna tell you this right now. I think the
Republicans are going to get boat raised. And yes, affordability

(45:09):
is a big deal. Yes it is. What do we
always say here, We're a checkbook based voting society. And
if the Republicans want to get back on the path
to win, you better figure out how to get that
message out there. Stop gaslighting people, Start empathizing with them,

(45:30):
Stop playing the game of everything is great and doing
the same thing that Biden did, mistake after mistake after mistake.
Stop doing that. Focus on We're working hard. This isn't
going to be easy. This isn't overnight. And because it
wasn't overnight that cause this, it's not going to be

(45:54):
overnight that fixes it. But we understand we're doing everything
we can to bring down the prices to make it
easier for you to give the American people the things
that they need, which is affordability. Across the board, come
up with something better than It's great. Everything's great, It's
never been better. You should deal with it. I don't

(46:16):
know who you guys are listening to. It's all lies.
That's not going to work. I think we recognize that
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Speaker 16 (46:30):
This Secretary of Defense, Pete Henkseth put the blame for
the second Strength squarely on his commander, Admiral Mitch Bradley,
saying on X I stand by him and the combat
decisions he has made on the September second mission and
all others.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Since I have news for you, I mean, we talked
to Mike Lyons. I'm going to play some of it
next hour as well. If you missing it, make sure
you're have the podcast. There's a lot there with this
soul with Venezuela, and it just feels bizarre that they're
shifting over the blame from Hegseeth to an admiral now

(47:12):
and it feels like, well, we found our scapegoat. That's
what it feels like to me and I in the
frustration level with this is tremendous. And I again, why
are we there? I think it's a fair question. Why
are we doing anything there? Well, because of the drugs. Again,

(47:34):
the pentannel doesn't come from there. Everybody recognizes that, all
even Michael Ies just look at all the cocaine comes
from Columbia. Very little is traffic through there. Why are
we there? I think it's a very fair question. And
why are we saying, Hey, Maduro's bad. But Hernandez, Orlando Hernandez,
the former president of Honduras who we convicted in our

(47:58):
courts in New York City of drug trafficking, who was
sendenced to forty five years, and we're partning him and
his ties to the likes of the Sindealoa Cartel, El
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Speaker 2 (49:52):
Texas is always interesting, a good barometer of things that
are going on. Jasmine Crockett obviously, for the most part,
looks like running for the Senate, but you have something
else happening with their entire situation of the redistricting and
then California doing what it did. Guess what California might
see happen in Texas. Somebody from California, Darrel Issa, moved

(50:15):
to Texas so he can continue to stay in politics.

Speaker 17 (50:19):
Wait what now, Darrel Aisa, who has long time been
a congressman in California, according to punch Bowl News and
the Texas Tribune, is at least thinking about the concept
of moving from California to Texas to run there as
a congressman, even though he's currently a congressman from California.
Isa's team we reached out to him and asked him

(50:40):
about it. They said, we don't have any news tonight,
but stay tuned. That was the comment which was not
exactly a denial.

Speaker 18 (50:48):
I think that you know this very admitted on both sides.
Admittedly partisan Jerrymander in California has caused him to now
be in a district that is very, very hard to
win on purpose. It was Jerrymander to become a Democrat seat.
And I think he's looking at all of his options.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
They're all looking at all their options. Can you believe
this now, No, you can't. You should. This is what
politics has become. Professional politicians. I've told you this over
and over again, and I mean it. For the most part,
they're not ideologues. What they are are business people who
like the power, who like all the stuff that they have.
They would easily switch teams if they knew they could

(51:26):
continue to hold the seat that they're in and not
have to give up DC and all the stuff and
the trappings that come with it, and that includes switching
states if need be.

Speaker 18 (51:38):
Wait what, But I think that right now this is
more like I think trying to figure out what's going on.
You've got Texas lines that are currently being litigated in
federal court. You've got California lines that are being litigated
in California court.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
But I think that if those lines I could see stay.

Speaker 18 (51:54):
I could see him doing some focus groups and some
polling and seeing whether or not he can get away
to it. Remember, darre Lisa has now national name ID
because he, of course was the chairman of the House
Oversight Committee during the almost all of the Obama administration, so.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
He could make the leap.

Speaker 18 (52:07):
And of course he's one of the wealthiest members of Congress,
so he would certainly be able to communicate to the voters.
And I could tell you one thing, if he were
to make that leap, there's not a single voter in
that district who wouldn't know what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
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Speaker 18 (52:29):
But I will say it's kind of interesting because somebody
told me, don't you have to live in the state
that you're in, And so I did a little bit
of research, and what I found out is the constitution
says you have to live in the district at the
moment you are elected.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
There we go again. It just shows you they're willing
to do anything to keep the power. Let me know,
what you think. Meanwhile, scotus this week hearing some stuff
very interesting. Cox and Sony are battling it out over
a ruling that Cox ended up losing. When it comes
to piracy, which is a big issue in the world

(53:04):
of entertainment.

Speaker 19 (53:04):
Everyday, billions of people illegally stream or download copyrighted material
like music, movies, or TV shows. The key question before
the Supreme Court is our internet companies complicit in those
copyright infringements simply by giving online pirates access to the web.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Now, what they're saying is, look, just because somebody downloads something,
we provide a service, they take that service and go
somewhere and download something illegally, doesn't mean we should be
on the hook for it. We're doing everything we can
to alert you guys of these pirate websites, but it's
the individual, not us, that should be held accountable. And

(53:43):
this will be interesting to see what happens. A jury
sided with Sony and Cox is supposed to pay a
billion dollars in damage. They're appealing to verdict, so we
will see what happens. But think of this for a second.
If this was upheld, what kind of floodgates could open
for Internet providers to be in a situation where they're
now being held accountable for individuals' actions using their service.

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And should this be open to anything. Somebody commits a
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Speaker 2 (54:43):
Rage bait. Don't be raged and or baited when it
comes to all the crap that goes on out there,
because it is ridiculous. Do not fall for it. We
tell you that all the time. Why, because that's what
we do here. We are not over reactors and sense
rules the day. Truth above all else. That should be

(55:05):
the only thing that matters. Okay, Rage though sells.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
The Oxford Word of the Year for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
You know what it is?

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Rage bait Online content deliberately designed to elicit anger or
outrage and get this is the part that kills me
in order to increase traffic or engagement. Man, we're not
even hiding it anymore.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Why did they pick this word?

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Use of it tripled this year and it seems to
be a fundamental aspect of dominant culture.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yes, the old saying sell the sizzle, not the steak.
What I always tell you about reality television. Why do
we watch because it's a train wreck. We don't watch
because five women go to dinner that are just ordinary women.
We watch because there's five women who, at any given

(56:05):
moment will say something ridiculous with fake hare and fake boobs, screaming,
yell at each other in the middle of a restaurant.
Five normal women sitting there having a conversation. Nobody pays
attention to nobody does. Drama sells rage cells. So the

(56:31):
drama sold for a while, but it's not enough anymore.
Now we need rage because you paid attention to the drama,
but you react to the rage. Oh what, Yeah, you
came for the drama, Stay for the rage, rage bait.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I don't know which part of this compound noun bothers
me more that social media algorithms look for and feed
to us the worst part of our political diet, or
that we so eagerly gobble it up and reward anyone
who pitches this poison. People who are developing platforms on

(57:09):
social media, if you see them popping up, they are
doing exactly this. This is what made the right righteous
on social media. Okay, they have been dominant there for
a while. The left is catching up and they're doing
it the same way.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Rage wins the day. When it comes to reaction, rage
e Wool's reaction, rage equals emotion. Emotion equals you doing something. Now,
the right has dominated, and it if dominated where the
culture wars. A lot of what Trump has won on

(57:50):
was culture wars. Right, It's it's hilarious. They're still trying
to go back to that. Well right now it's not
working because reality is setting in of affordability and stuff,
and that becomes an issue. But when it comes to
getting people to pay attention, the reason Marjorie Taylor Green

(58:10):
got so big is because she was great at dude
what rage baiting. Trump was speaking and doing what he
does in twenty fifteen, and he just things changed and
it led to craziness. And then the left is trying

(58:32):
to figure out how they do the same damn thing.
The problem is they're not very good at it. They're
not because it seems so contrived, but they're trying to
catch up as best as possible. But rage baiting do
not fall for it, care about the truth. That's what
matters if politics is what you're interested in, care about

(58:53):
the truth, and it's okay to laugh at some of
the goofiness, because we do. Both sides are insane, and
I'm talking about the extremes on both sides. By the way,
a vast majority of us eighty five ninety percent, we
live in the center left, center right world. Okay, there's
far more of us, but we don't have the bully
pulpit when it comes to social media.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Tell yourselves what you want, feel any way you want
about it.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Nobody on the left.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Was raised with more deep roots in the Democratic Party
than I was. And I'm telling you you're doing what
you say you oppose.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
It's rage bait all day, okay.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
And everyone doing it knows it makes everything worse except
one thing, their bank accounts. The irony one of the
main avenues of rage bait is what making people hate elites, privileged,
the insiders.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
What's it all code for rich?

Speaker 4 (59:50):
But at the same time, those people who are trying
to make you hate those people are.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Using these tactics to get rich.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
That's why on the left and the right you see
more and more people trying to cash in on driving
the rest of us crazy scroll through your feed, affordability,
healthcare ideas, price fixing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Why aren't those things trending? Because they don't sell as
well and the entertainment values not as good. It's not
it's not as good. And that's what matters. See online.
What matters is do I get more likes? Do I
get more clicks? Do I get more views? Can I

(01:00:32):
sell this to voters in a certain way? Can I
sell this to people that will donate money? Can I
get a reaction? Et cetera, et cetera? Can I build
my brand? I'm going to read you a few names
right here, Vern Buchanan, Adrian Smith, Mike Thompson, Mike Kelly,

(01:00:56):
David Kustoff. Do you know who they are? No? You won't.
You want to know who they are are They're on
the most powerful committee they have, which is the Ways
and Means Committee. Guess who doesn't participate in the Ways
and Means Committee MTG. The Matt Gates is of the world,
AOC Bobbitt, Jamal Bowman when they were there, and the

(01:01:19):
reason is simple because when it comes down to getting
stuff done, serious people need to do serious things. When
it comes down to raising profile, when it comes down
to building a brand, fighting in public, getting people to
pay attention to something that doesn't matter. Well, then there's
a lot of useful idiots out there that will buy whatever.

(01:01:41):
These useful idiots at times are saying. Rage bait should
infuriate all of us, But how can it when we're
the ones who consume it, When we're the ones who
are part of the reactionary group. People go, I know
you tweet a lot, Why why don't I because it's

(01:02:05):
you could say hi on there and somebody can tell
you to f off. It's just all rage, right, That's
all it is. It's just rage. Anger. I'll go there
and get some news, but for the most part it's
just it is ridiculous. I answer my DMS and things
of that nature. But outside of that, no, no, I'll
do other stuff. But the truth is, at this point

(01:02:28):
in time, we've gotten to this point now where rage
is the only thing that matters. In rage, perpetual rage
is where so many people online live and it is
very frustrating. We always had one or two people who
raged in your community. The difference is now everybody's one
or two people can connect with each other.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Because what works is not solving what works is exploiting problems.
Look at what's trending again, the proof is there for
all of us to say this isn't hidden the president's
MRI results. I want to show them how Hegseth sucks
for the boat strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Why Stephen Miller is a Nazi?

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
According to some rage bait podcast chanting Globalize the Entifada
at the site of the Boston marathon bombing, Trump pardoning
the latest bad guy them Honduran drug lord.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
At the same time we're going to go after Venezuela
for drugs. Why all of.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
These topics are designed to piss you off. They are
all heat, no light and look, I know, I know,
depending on your side, well, hold on, I agree with
some of it, but not that what Trump did. Or
on the other side, oh do I hold on a second,
but that one is really bad. That's the Left, I know,
because you have been trained to believe that whatever is

(01:03:50):
good for your side is good, and whatever is good
for the other side is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
A lot of that is true, A lot of it
is Look some of if it's important, I mean, we
can have the question, if we're going to go into Venezuela,
why are you pardoning a guy over here who in
the Honduran president, former Honduran president, who basically destroyed his
own constitution so he could run again and then was
arrested and convicted in a court here in America. We

(01:04:16):
can have that conversation, right, We can have conversations. The
problem is it's about having a conversation when everybody wants
to throw a fit, be angry, get pissed off, scream
and yell. And that's the frustrating part of this. I
expect so much more, you know, the audience I try

(01:04:38):
to cultivate is everybody. I want the tent to be bigger.
I want us to have conversations, and disagreeing is a
wonderful thing because I think we're smart enough to have
a conversation. Whether it's about affordable care, you know, for healthcare,
whether it's about immigration having common sense reform, we can
have that conversation. The issue is people in mass it's

(01:05:04):
just easier for them to act on emotion, that's it.
It's easier for them to act in a way where
I can sit here and try to have a nuanced,
serious conversations, or I can just say something so ridiculous
where you'll react and then all of a sudden, other

(01:05:25):
people reacting and the emotion's got you, and the algorithms
go in a way it goes, and I just I can't, man,
trust me. A lot of my people that I work
with want me to just go over the top at times,
and I'm like, I can't. First of all, I can't
hold a straight face with that because so much of
it is so ridiculous. It's more ridiculous than the Hallmark

(01:05:46):
movies I love to watch because it's just not real.
And many of the people that a lot of people
follow out there, I know them, I'm friends with them.
I know they don't believe ninety percent of the crap
they're saying. Some of them do, but a lot of
them don't. They believe a little bit of it, But
then they ratchet it up, right, I'll take it up
to eleven instead of ten.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
So we hop from one provocation to the next and
lose sight of what should matter, like making healthcare more affordable.
Remember the shutdown that was trending when it pissed you off,
and it was supposed to be about what fighting the
good fight for ACA subsidies and beyond. Because affordability. Issues
with healthcare affect everybody, not just those using the ACA

(01:06:31):
and needing subsidies to do so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
But where to go. It's gone because it doesn't work
as well, and all that matters is likes, clicks, et cetera,
et cetera. It's easier for me to scare you into
doing something based on an emotion and reaction than have
a conversation about what it would take to do something else. Why,
because that's something else would take compromise, it would take

(01:06:55):
time to do it right. And that's the fear of
getting rid of anything, the filibuster and things of that nature,
because the issue is going to be we're going to
see mad swings because a small, loud group of people
will control too much of the information. And that's something
I don't want. I don't think you guys want either.

(01:07:17):
It's the old saying the loudest politicians have the least power.
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Republican potentially in Texas, even though he's a Republican in
California serving, but now he may be redistricted out. So
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Speaker 8 (01:09:34):
Deep States, No deep doo doo Eyeah, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Could Luigi Mangione catch a huge break before his murder
trial even begins? Remember who he is, what he did?
Allegedly with the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Year, one year after prosecutors say Luigi Mangoni brazenly assassinated
the CEO of United Healthcare in Midtown Manhattan. The twenty
seven year old is due in court for a multi
day hearing that could determine the balance of evidence in
a state murder trial. Mangoni's attorneys are trying to limit
prosecutors from using key evidence, including a three D printed
gun and purported journal writings they say police illegally obtained

(01:10:21):
last year when they searched Mangoni's backpack during his arrest
without a warrant.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Wait, what that's right. So what the defense is saying
is you came because of a phone call I think
for the manager at the McDonald's. You showed up, you
took his backpack, you searched it illegally before you even
read him his rights or told him what anything was about.

(01:10:47):
That's what they're alleging, and that you went right in
there and you took the backpack, no warrant, know anything,
and dove right in and you can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
The judge will ultimately decide whether the search and seizure
of the backpack were properly done, and whether the items
in it can then be admissible a trial. And those
items include what prosecutors said as the murder weapon, a
three D printed gun, along with a red notebook where
prosecutor said Manchioni revealed his plan and a possible motive,

(01:11:22):
saying the target is insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Literally the smoking gun, because without that you're gonna have
to figure out where you go from there. If they
decided now you can't have any of this, it's all
non admissible.

Speaker 20 (01:11:34):
If the defense wins just one argument, for example, the
contents of his bag was illegally searched, then you don't
get a diary, you don't get a three D printed gun,
you don't get any of the identification or things that
connected Luigia Mangioni through the chase.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
If you can't present that to a journey, what kind
of case do you have done? That's gonna be a
great question. It's gonna be very interesting. Let me know
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(01:12:12):
day and wrap it up the day at seven o'clock
Eastern on YouTube right here on the Chad Benson Show.
All right, coming up, our number three of the program,
more from our buddy Mike clients military analysts. We talk
about Venezuela, a lot of stuff going on there, obviously
Ukraine not being paid a lot of attention to and
needs to be paid attention to. Also, we talk about

(01:12:35):
what's going on in District seven in Tennessee. Why the
Republicans are throwing so much time and effort in a
race today that they'll probably win. But what does it
say if it's not by the margin they're hoping it is,
could say a lot. We'll talk about that as well,
a bunch of other good stuff to get to, including

(01:12:55):
what's trending. If you missed you of the show, shame
on you. Our number three of the show, straight ahead
is the Chad Benson chap.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Affordability stupid. It's kind of like the economy because it
is it's what matters big race in Tennessee today. That
and I've continued to say this, I believe that the
Republicans will win. That being said, way closer than it
should have been. And the reason fordability number one issue

(01:13:56):
for Americans, right left, center, don't care, care way too much.
How can you care? Oh, you don't care too much.
You live and die in this stuff, and you don't
need to. People who don't care about politics, they care
about the economy. People who care way too much about
the politics. They care about the economy. Super right, super left,
they care about the economy. People in the middle people

(01:14:17):
milk toast, lukewarm, they care about the economy.

Speaker 14 (01:14:20):
This is a district Donald Trump won by twenty two
points last year. The fact that the special election has
become the center of the political universe, it's really a
testament to the excitement Democrats feel after sweeping key races
in New Jersey and Virginia last month, and Republicans growing
concerns about the president's unpopularity and facing backlash in the
midterms next year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Look, his unpopularity, you can't deny that. And he's a
bit of a lame duck. The Epstein stuff didn't hurt him.
High prices, I mean, there's a lot of stuff we
can go on and on about He's done some good
things right, But the reality is it's always about affordability.
What if I told you guys, he could solve Ukraine,
he could fix the Middle East, he could cure cancer,

(01:15:04):
and he could stop all the fentanel from getting into
the United States. And you know what if prices are
too damn high compared to your wages, guess what, we
don't care. That is the world right or wrong that
we live in. So the Democrats have Aft in Bane.
She is running against him. She is uber progressive. And

(01:15:25):
I'm going to say this for all clarity here. I
know Aten Aft and I are friends. She was the
first one to come on my show when I moved
out here. She is really good people. I do not
agree with her politics. I think she is misguided at times.
I think she wholeheartedly wants everyone to do well and
thinks that there is a lot of corruption in politics,

(01:15:46):
of which I agree with her. But I do think
if there was another candidate running that was a little
bit more polished, I think the Republicans would be in
serious trouble. That being said, there is no doubt that
this race is too damn close for them, and part
of that is them. They made this race too close

(01:16:06):
in the way that they went after her and made
her starts kind of like what happened with Katie Hobbs
out in Arizona. The Republicans after twenty twenty election win
after Katie Hobbs. They turned her into a star, which
in turn ended up being all that she needed to
rise to the top in Arizona and become the de

(01:16:28):
facto nominee for governor, of which she won. So they've
kind of done that with aften for Republicans.

Speaker 14 (01:16:34):
They really need to stop the bleeding and showed that
the president and the Republican Party in this moment still
has some political muscle and the ability to turn out
this coalition that propelled Trump to victory in twenty twenty
four and helped Republicans win the popular vote. These voters
are not showing up when President Donald Trump is not
on the ballot. They need to find a way to
fix that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
And I don't know if they show up, but if
he's on the ballot right now, they may show up
more against him if they can't straighten some stuff out again, right, wrong, good, bad, whatever.
It isn't about him, but it is about him. Because
during these races, and this is a weird race, right
it's December, it's just after the holiday, and it's cold
and wet and probably snowy throughout the day. The numbers

(01:17:18):
coming in so far, because they don't have the breakdown
of who got ballasts, who don't get ballats for early
voting seems to lean a little bit towards often right
now for independence, which right now are really against the
Republicans and Democrats. And these are off the voter rolls.
So today's turnout will be interesting because I don't know

(01:17:38):
how many people are gonna show up. There might not
be a lot. That's just the reality of this. It's
a mid term ish special election before the mid term.
Not quite sure, it's you don't know. I still think
that Matt Van Epps will win, but I don't think
it's because he was anything special. He was He's just

(01:18:00):
you know, go to central casting, get me a guy
that says I'm a patriot, that looks the part. And
it's a good guy. By the way I've interviewed Matt.
He's a very nice guy and I think you do
a fine job. And I think he's going to win.
But you know, this isn't even so much about Aton
and Matt. This is about where we currently find ourselves,

(01:18:20):
the affordability. If you don't believe me, especially amongst the young,
here's the new gallop pole. Right now. Capitalism stumbles with
young adults who eighteen to thirty four have a forty
three percent favorable view of capitalism. We're like thirty five
to fifty four. I'm still in that range, thank god,

(01:18:41):
not for much longer. Fifty percent. That's it. And by
the way, fifty five and older is only sixty two percent.
The issue isn't capitalism. The issue is crony capitalist, which
is what when you look out and about in the
world of politics, what do you see and feel You
feel crony capitalism. You feel a bunch of well to

(01:19:03):
do people with lots of money are hanging out with
powerful people who want lots of money to help them
continue to hold on to their fiefdoms, and that they're
living in a world that's much different. And you feel
like they're talking about the stock market right Wall Street.
You're living on Main Street and going, hey, they're getting
further and further away from me. I'm feeling like there's
some issues here. How about starter home. This is another

(01:19:27):
one of gallops percentage do not own a home and
do not foresee owning a home. Are you ready for
this now? This is in the next five years. Half
eighteen to thirty four do not think they will own
a home and do not own a home and will
not in the next five years thirty five fifty four,
twenty percent don't own a home and do not feel

(01:19:48):
they will own a home, and fifty five or older
fifteen percent. This is an issue that is serious and
here is one that you need to take a listen
and a look to if I'm the Republicans, and the
fear of capitalism, no, the fear of crony capitalism, small business,
big business positive look ninety five percent of people and

(01:20:13):
this is all age groups, so okay, ninety five percent
have a positive view of small business. Thirty seven percent
have a positive view of corporations big business. This is
an issue that the Republicans are going to have to

(01:20:34):
face and they need to figure it out. The young,
the gen Z, millennial gen X, they don't want socialism,
central run government. What they don't want, though, is a

(01:20:54):
corporate run government telling the government what they need to do.
They're not spending as much. They feel a pinch, if
you don't believe me.

Speaker 21 (01:21:05):
Overall, eighteen billion was spent on Black Friday. But you've
got this new survey finding that thirty four percent of
gen Z is plenty to cut back on their holiday spending,
and that is a problem for the economy and for
the retail sector. So here is the average expected holiday
spending by gen Z for twenty twenty four and eighty
two this year, eight hundred and fifty dollars. So they're

(01:21:28):
definitely cutting back, as you can see by those numbers.
And here's the thing is that retailers they want to
hook them in young Carly. They want to get you
when you're young, so that when you start to make
money in your later years that you'll come back and
spend on the same brand. They want those loyal customers.
And that isn't really happening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
No, it's not. They don't have the money, they don't
have the disposable income. They are struggling. It's not because
they're all lazy and they're stupid in the mean and
they got dumb degrees. That's what I hear all the time. No,
it's not because they come out of college on average
forty eight thousand dollars in debt. That's on average. They

(01:22:10):
then have a softening job market with narrowing opportunities, and
when they do get a job, they're underemployed for what
they went to school for in their mind, and they're
playing catch up from jump.

Speaker 21 (01:22:26):
Only group right now, this is going to make you laugh.
The only group right now that plans to spend more
for this entire weekend, leading into this week and for
the holidays is gen X. Really think about it, right,
that's the forty five to six year old group. They're
making more money.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah, that's true. So you know the administration their focus
is on affordability right now. They see this report and
what must they be thinking.

Speaker 21 (01:22:49):
They must be thinking that they've got to figure out
a way to help that younger generation with affordability. And
that's the buzzword in Washington, right But it is about
this generation is now starting to pay high rent, they've
got student loans that they're getting hit with. That debt
is hitting them, and they're also struggling in the job
market because a lot of times when you see companies
do layoffs or staff reductions, what have I said before,

(01:23:12):
you take from the top and you take from the bottom.
So those young college age or recent college graduates, especially
those in this survey, say that they're the ones cutting back,
and it's because they're struggling in the job market.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Absolutely, affordability, affordability, affordability. That is the key word. Rage bait,
maybe the Oxford word of the year, but affordability is
the political word of the year. Speaking of politics, darryl
Isa makes me laugh. Wants to well, he wants to

(01:23:47):
continue to be a congress person. The issue is he's
in California. He's getting redistricted out of his position, so
where might he go Texas?

Speaker 17 (01:23:58):
Now, darryl Isa, who has long time been a congressman
in California, according to punch Bowl News and the Texas Tribune,
is at least thinking about the concept of moving from
California to Texas to run there as a congressman, even
though he's currently a congressman from California. Isa's team we

(01:24:18):
reached out to him and asked him about it. They said,
we don't have any news tonight, but stay tuned. That
was the comment, which was not exactly a denial.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
No, it's not a denial and the reason they say
that is because that's probably what he's going to do.
And all he has to do is if he wins
the election. If he does run in Texas, he only
has to be a resident there when he's elected, not
for like a year or two or anything like that.
It shows you what people are willing to do when

(01:24:51):
it comes to holding onto the power and the power
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Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
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It's fine. I was trending on the interwebs on this Tuesday.
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charges relating to child issues, the sexual nature, and he's
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Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Is that time of the day. We talked to our
good buddy Mike Lyons, military analysts, retired a major in
the army and the best damn military guy around period.
Case closed and he knows the ends, the outs and
all of that stuff. And after the recovery of you know, hockey,
which you were doing and eating all the turkey, we
got to talk unfortunately, war and there's a lot of
it out there. Hope you had a good holiday.

Speaker 10 (01:31:41):
Brother at shad Ale. Good had a great holiday.

Speaker 9 (01:31:44):
Good get some time to sit down with the family
and did some hockey. But ready to get back at it.
We have a lot of stuff going on and that's
Curry Front right now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
So you got a great article and you send it
to me. We talked a bit about it yesterday. You
sent it to me today about Ukraine and Russia. We'll
get to Venezuela and some of the other stuff in
a minute, but the whole thing with Ukraine and Russia.
You hit it spot on, man. This isn't this isn't
a truth. This is a truth. This isn't A war's over.
We're all happy, go lucky. This is hey, you know what,
no more killing, But the war's not done yet.

Speaker 9 (01:32:15):
I think this is at best an armacist and it's
just a pause that we'll take this brutal conflict into
the future that's going to leave more questions unanswered.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
And this is just as administration trying to.

Speaker 9 (01:32:29):
Get any deal done at this point, aside to trying
to get real peace that's there. And I think that's
why I think this really matters right now, because it's winner.
I think that there's so many things going on on
the battlefield in this case going forward, this is really
not going to solve this problem.

Speaker 10 (01:32:47):
So from my.

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
Perspective, we've replicated the situation in Korea from nineteen fifty three,
and we're going to create a situation in Eastern Europe
that's going to provide an open door for more invasions
and much less security and much less peace.

Speaker 10 (01:33:01):
I think in a time when we need just the opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
You know, Mike, you talk about that, and you brought
up some great things in the article about Russia right
now has no reason to stop, and the people putting
this together realistically, I mean, Zelensky's got to sell it
to his people. Look, guys, the killing's going to stop,
but we're giving up a lot and there isn't a
lot of guarantees that I think would make them happy.
I think they're just counting on the fact that maybe

(01:33:26):
everybody in Ukraine just wants this over.

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
I think that's what it is. They want the killing
to stop. We all want the killing to stop. There's
no question about that. There can't really be a security
guarantee in Europe without NATO.

Speaker 10 (01:33:38):
It's just as simple as that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
Now, I don't think that NATO necessarily is put in
Ukraine becomes part of NATO right away and that it's
an instant solution. But you're going to have to have
NATO troops, NATO security type organizations, interoperat ability with military
units there. You know, that same non aggression structure that

(01:34:02):
ruled the day back in the nineties when Ukraine gave
up its nuclear weapons just didn't work. The West didn't
come to Ukraine's aid here three years ago, or actually
fifteen years ago when they first took place. But so
I think that they're going down the same path again.
The can keeps getting kicked down the road, and without
NATO being involved somewhat, this is really not going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Why should they trust us? Though? That's the whole thing.
We signed something said, hey, were you giving up your nukes?
We really appreciate that. Don't worry, We've got your back.
And then when push came to Schev, we're let go,
the other guy signed that that wasn't us. Why should
they believe anything we're going to be about now?

Speaker 9 (01:34:37):
You know, this is a classic Russian thought about how
the West operates. That they can we can grind down
their will to negotiate, grind down their ability to try
to create some kind of peace and that region there,
and knowing that the Allies play out their differences on
all the world stage to see, and recognizing that each

(01:35:00):
of these different NATO countries has different capabilities, and Donald
Trump uses the leverage of the United States over all
of them. At this point, I think the you know,
the country is close to the situation. Poland feel very
comfortable because I do believe that NATO gives them that
security blanket that they've not had, and so I can
understand why Ukraine would want this. But again, this is

(01:35:21):
more or less shaping out to be what's this boundary
going to look like between Ukraine and Russia? Put up
a DMZ and here we go back to nineteen fifty three.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Talking to my clients military analysts, we talk about all
things military and all the things going on conflicts globally.
What do you think is going to happen in Venezuela.
We have fifteen thousand troops there. Now it feels like
it's getting closer and closer to something. Maduro one minute,
you know, he's like, here, take all the ail you want,
and that's not good enough for us. I don't know

(01:35:51):
what's going to happen. I just think something is going
to happen.

Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
So I'm looking for that comparative again, and I guess
it's technically possible that the United States could design, maybe
execute some kind.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
Of operation to capture Maduro.

Speaker 9 (01:36:03):
But this is way more complex, risky, escalatory than anything
that took place in eighty nine when we grabbed the
dictator back then, and just cause in Oriega. So is
this same thing kind of doable back then? You know,
back back in eighty nine, we had troops in Panama,
we had logistics, we had the army involved, and that

(01:36:24):
to me is the key to this whole thing. The
army is nowhere in the Caribbean right now, and we're
not invading anybody without the military involved, without the army
in particular, And you know, Panama was different back then,
so so Venezuela is. It's just not the same situation,
you know, thinking about maybe that's what they're thinking, special
special opscars are going to go in there and just
pinprick and just take out Maduro. I just I just

(01:36:46):
again can't see it. Venezuela so much larger, difficult terrain,
dense urban areas, years of decay, you know, just top
to bottom. The mission is just layered with risk over
risk on a much more detailed military. So I'm still
not sure what the strategy is right now with trying
to get him to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
No, and I don't think he's going to leave, even
though I think his neighbors would like them not to
the US not to invade because of him. But I
continue to go back to this, Mike. We're great at
the first part, right, We're great at getting rid of
whoever's there. We're awful at the second part, especially over
the last four or five decades, which is replacing them
with somebody where hell doesn't fall apart. Right, And I

(01:37:24):
could easily see this becoming Libya, where we go in,
we think we've done something, or we he finally is
deposed or whatever happens, and all of a sudden, instead
of it becoming the things that we thought it was
going to become, it becomes a hellscape.

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
Yeah, I'd absolutely spot on.

Speaker 9 (01:37:39):
You know, we've got that raw military capability to you know,
penetrate then as whale and defenses and certain special ops
guys infiltrate and you know, high value targets, you know,
go after what we need to do, use cyber you know,
shape that battlefield. We do all those things, blow a
lot of things up. But to your point, we can't

(01:38:01):
figure out what happens next. That wouldn't know what to do.
And that country has right been natural resources, rareroad minerals
unless we're ready to come right behind it with some
other military and state department that we've always failed on
doing Uh, it can even fall a lot further. This
is it's being masked as this drug traffic operation, and

(01:38:24):
I think that's where we've got to, you know, recognize
that that we're going after some of the sources. Most
of it's in Columbia, though actually it's not necessarily Venezuela,
though they're the you know, they seem to be the
mule of these drugs. But again, you bring this all together,
the risk, the political costs, what's a clear uncertain endgame
on this and this insurgency that would happen in our

(01:38:45):
hemisphere for this Noriega style decapitation operation.

Speaker 10 (01:38:49):
I just sorry, Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Talking to Mica Liones, military analysts, we talk about all
things in the military world. The things are going on. So, Mike,
the whole thought process is, but Duro's bad, he's evil,
he's drug dealer. But hold on, we're going to pardon
another guy who ran a country who was also the
same thing we say Maduro is, and he was actually
convicted here in the United States. And I just feel

(01:39:13):
like you're selling these things to the American people in
the wrong way. You're doing a disservice to the voter,
to the American people, and you're doing disservice to our
men and women in uniform when you're selling something that
seems like you have no idea what you're doing. This.

Speaker 9 (01:39:26):
Yeah, that pardon in that individual looks like this is
one of these benefits of the doubts that I believe
that the administration feels that person was wrongly accused.

Speaker 10 (01:39:35):
Now again I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:39:37):
Enough about it's more of a legal aspect of it,
but it doesn't It doesn't appear that this administration has
explained itself enough, and I think that's that still has
to come. I think that maybe they will, but I
don't know what whether or not this will lead to
more political let's say, concern from the Republican side at

(01:39:58):
least to say, hey, listen, what exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Is going on with that situation.

Speaker 9 (01:40:02):
So I'm going to, you know, for now, let's see,
give the administration the benefit of the doubt, but we
still need some more information on what went down with
that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
You know, giving them the benefit of the doubt. I
think we're seeing more and more people that are stepping
up on the right side of the aisle and saying, hey,
you know, we need some more questions answered and We
also need some some serious conversation about what's going on.
You're striking these drug boats. You've got this situation. Now
where did hexth order something? But now it's the admiral

(01:40:34):
who did it? And they killed these two guys that
survived the first, you know, a strike in September, and
it is this is again, we don't even know what
they had on there. We don't know what. You know,
this is becoming one of those situations where you saw
this coming and it feels like, Okay, what are we
facing here? Are we facing illegal strikes? Are they legal strikes?

(01:40:57):
Do we know what they actually had? Where's the proof?
More and more Republicans I see are asking questions, besides
just the Democrats.

Speaker 9 (01:41:04):
I thought that what the Secretary put out yesterday was inappropriate,
basically shifting all the blame to the admiral that was
that he said was responsible for the attacks. I mean
the you know, the the initial Washington Post to article
likely didn't have all the correct facts.

Speaker 10 (01:41:22):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:41:22):
I didn't really comment a lot about this because I
wanted to see a lot of that come out.

Speaker 10 (01:41:26):
Because there are a lot of ifs.

Speaker 9 (01:41:27):
You know, of course that we should not be shooting
at non combatants, let's say, from a law of land
warfare perspective.

Speaker 10 (01:41:35):
However, from from where I what I.

Speaker 9 (01:41:38):
Would understand about a target like this, and having talked
to people in the Navy that are weapons systems officers
and alike, first of all, they're not they don't necessarily
have eyes on the target. They're assuming that if they're
given they're given clear to fire, that that that a
target's legal. If if if they've determined that hitting the
boat the first time is a legal target, well then

(01:42:00):
finishing it off the second time is a legal target.
It doesn't matter who's clinging to the side of it,
whether it's Robinson, Caruso or Rose from the Titanic, it
doesn't matter who's cleaning to the side of it.

Speaker 10 (01:42:09):
So a legal target is still a legal target.

Speaker 9 (01:42:13):
So that's my perspective of it. And it looks like,
again I'm not sure the Secretary orders something that's you know,
unless there's an audio of him saying, let's kill them all,
then okay, then he's going to obviously you know, have
to face those repercussions. But I think this has been
this has been generated in a lot of ways, and

(01:42:34):
it's pierced a very unfortunate veil because there's professionals involved up,
up and down the chain of command when it comes
to acquiring these targets and taking them out.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You know, that's a great question. You've got professionals up
and down, right. You and I have talked about this.
Who are going, Okay, I'm going to listen. You know,
I'm giving orders. I'm going to follow these orders. But
it feels like there's this disconnect, like we're going after
these boats that supposedly but we don't know what's on
those There hasn't been proven anything. We blow a little
boat up in the middle of twenty four hundred miles

(01:43:04):
away from the shores of America. We don't exactly know
what's on any of those things. So is there any
worry that they could get in trouble like any of
the men up and down because like you said, I
think what Hegset did the other day and the whole
thing with like blaming the admiral, I would be a
little bit worried for my you know, Am I going
to get thrown under the bus on something here? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:43:23):
And what Mark Kelly said about the fact that when
basically the Democrats come back in power. They're going to
hold responsible people chain of command for doing this. That's
completely inappropriate. I mean, this is we've pierced this veil
here of confidence in the chain of command and it's
and it started with that video. And it seems as
though we've created a situation of this illegal orders are

(01:43:47):
given now and we're looking for, you know, or a solution,
looking for a problem to solve it, and it's it's
I think it's really damaging. It's damaging the civilian military relations.
I think it's going to take maybe another generation. But
if we're talking about the things that he's saying, and
that's bringing military members to bear over decisions four years

(01:44:08):
from now that they made today, that's me lie stuff
and the liking and where we have all this information available,
we have the video, we have audio, we can see
what's going on, and everything is not in the right context.

Speaker 10 (01:44:22):
So we're in this real slippery slope.

Speaker 9 (01:44:24):
I think I think maybe the administration should release information
that talks more about the strategy and going after the
boats and the proof that they have as to why
they're legal military targets. They say their military targets because
they you know, have declared war on terrorism here at
this point. But again, you still can't necessarily shoot people

(01:44:49):
that are surrendering.

Speaker 10 (01:44:49):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 9 (01:44:50):
I'm not sure people floating around on a boat they
are still surrendering that I saw this comment that was
made that they could still call somebody else to come
help them.

Speaker 10 (01:44:57):
That's true.

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
And again that target has still not been destroyed. That's
still illegal target from the first hit as well.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
My client's always great talk to you, will.

Speaker 10 (01:45:04):
Do it again next week, brother, Thanks, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
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Solid fun show. Today. To kick it off after taking
a few days off, we talked war, which is unfortunate,
but the reality we talk rage bait. Don't buy into
the rage bait. I don't how many times I have
to tell you guys, stay away from rage bait, okay,
because it's not good or healthy for anybody. I still
think that Matt Benneff's when all is said and done,
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(01:49:20):
And in reality? I know often and I don't think
she ran a great campaign. I think she hustled. I
just think that it showed that the Republicans have some
serious issues out there and they better figure out how
to deal with it. You guys, have a blessed and
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of too there oh as always night night Jack.

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