Senate Blocks Democrats’ Bill to Extend Expiring Obamacare Subsidies

Senate blocks Democrats’ bill to extend expiring Obamacare subsidies. Fired Michigan coach Sherrone Moore accused of stalking victim 'for months' in police dispatch audio. Paul Limon, tech expert, talks AI, Disney and Sora. Worst Christmas songs #3. Indiana Senate Republicans reject Trump’s redistricting push. Zach Abraham of Bulwark Capital Management talks the economy and the stock market. 

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Not a shocker. Healthcare bill didn't get through the Senate.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
What more than twenty million Americans are all but certain
to see their healthcare insurance premiums soar at the end
of the year after Senate Republicans blocked a move to
extend Obamacare subsidies.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
After this, we'll not have time to try again before
premiums shoot through the roof.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
But Republicans refusing, saying the whole healthcare system needs to
be overhauled.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The regrets. So called plan is a three year extension
of the status quo. No reforms, no revisions, no rethinking
of the way that Obamacare works.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
But Republicans still have not agreed on their own healthcare
plan and President Trump hasn't released a plan of his own.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh but plants coming soon and just working. And we'll
talk about that in a second before we get to that. Though,
this was not a shocker, not a shocker. This is
my shockface. You can't see it because we're on radio.
But it's very shocking. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Couldn't be any more shocking than it is right now.

(01:20):
Very shocking. That being said, Chuck Schumer, who dare I say,
as awful antiquated.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
As weak as he is right now in his power
and skills. He still has some tricks. And the fact
that John Thune decided to take their proposal up was interesting.
Was that it got voted down.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Exactly Unfortunately, our Republican colleagues used to do what they
should have done. I want everyone here to understand just
what happened on the Senate floor. Senate Republicans just shove
the American people off the side of a cliff with

(02:17):
no parachute and with an anchor tied to their feet.
Republicans just blocked the Democrats bill for a clean, simple
extension of the ACA tax credits, the last chance they
had to ensure people's premiums do not skyrocket in the
coming months. Democrats did the work, but now Republicans chose

(02:41):
the consequences. Now Republicans have all but guaranteed that tens
of millions of people will see their premiums double or
triple or more next year. Republicans now own America's health
care crisis.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes they do, and that's what you wanted. You guys,
listen to my show all the time. God bless you
for that. I care about solutions. The problem is what
it is. You find a solution to the problem. And yes,
the Democrats Obamacare, this is your mess, but it needs

(03:23):
to be cleaned up. You want a politic on some
other things, go do it. And this was brilliant politics
by him. He got them to vote by doing what
three year extension. If you would have said, hey, let's
get together, let's do it for one year, let's figure
it out, it will go from there. No no, no, no,

(03:46):
no no, no, let's do three years. Because you knew
the Republicans were never going to go for it. Your
goal was to make sure that they own it, make
sure that they were the one holding the bag, because
that's what voters are going to look at, and voters
have a right to say, Republicans, this is on you

(04:06):
as well. Now, this may be their mess, but you've
had ample opportunity to fix it over the years, and
you haven't. You did show votes when Obama was president,
and then you didn't really have a plan and McCain
said no, and then there was that. But this was

(04:26):
masterful because the goal here wasn't to get three years subsidy.
No no, no, no, The goal was to saddle them
with the problem.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Democrats try to lld you to stop this healthcare crisis.
We put real legislation on the floor to ensure these
tax credits do not expire, and Republicans blocked it not once,
not twice, but thirteen times throughout the year. Thirteen times
they voted against extensions of the ACA credits. Thirteen times.

(05:05):
We tried over and over again. Then we tried one year,
we tried two years, we tried three years, we tried everything.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
They kept saying no.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
And of course Republicans had every opportunity to negotiate, to
join US or for a serious plan to prevent premiums
from rising after January first. Instead, today Republicans voted down
the only plan that would have stopped the premium spikes,
while having no plan of their own.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Man that was boring but powerful in the sense of
what it's going to do. It's going to land at
the feet of the Republicans, and the Republicans do not
know what to do with it. See, it's one of
those things when you talk that good game, right like

(05:57):
we talked the good game over here doing this, we
got the plan. You want to know what their plan
is don't get sick? What don't get sick? Did you say,
don't get sick? Yeah? Maybe I don't know. We got
a plan. What's your plan? I don't know. I can't
tell you. I would like tell you, but I can't
because of the thing.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
What thing?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I don't know. We're trying to get it patented right now.
It's a superplan. It's in a box, special box. It's hidden.
You guys can't see it. Did he say, don't get sick?
Is your plan? See, it's not just about the cost.
Go look at the numbers. Not only is the cost
gone up, satisfaction's gone down. We need an overhaul and

(06:41):
a complete fix. When it comes to healthcare. The Republicans
don't have a plan. They don't next week, Mike Johnson
may or may not roll something out. I think the
smartest thing to do. And I continue to say this,
And if I'm Donald Trump, I'm looking at the numbers
with affordability. I'm looking at the numbers when it comes

(07:02):
to a lot of different things, and they are not well.
And if I'm him, I don't want something else, rightly
or wrongly saddled to this horse trying to make it
to the midterms next year, and so I would say,

(07:23):
let's do a one year a one year subsidy vote
and then by next year we have to have this done.
We have to. But you got to take it seriously.

(07:45):
You do. And it's funny because Mike Johnson's like, well,
this doesn't really address the cost. No, it doesn't. But
you guys should have been doing this wasn't a surprise.
So frustrat.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
It is.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And Republicans, now's your chance. I keep saying it you
win healthcare, you fix it, man, that's going to go
a long long way. Don't screw it up. Doesn't mean
it's going to be perfect. But the some of the
stuff I've seen them put out in the last several

(08:24):
days is not it. I will tell you that right now.
You know what, the don't get sick planned seems to
be what a lot of people are going to run with,
or as I like to call it, the roll in
the dice. Speaking of that, can we be serious right
now about what's going on with the Michigan football coach.

(08:48):
So it is crazy to see what has happened because
it was kind of vague the other day, right like,
it comes out that he's been fired for cause, and
we talked about it the first day that this was
not something that was really a surprise. It wasn't really

(09:12):
something that you know, wasn't talked about or people didn't know.
But they wanted to make sure they had all their
teas cross in their eyes dotted because they didn't want
to pay him as pay you know, because these coaches,
that contract is guaranteed outside of cause. So we were
talking about Brian Kelly got fired from LSU and he

(09:35):
sowe fifty four million dollars and he was fired. It
was just your can't we were going to go in
a different direction. He didn't do anything wrong, he just
did went on the field, and because of that they
had to pay him out. They tried to get out
of paying him out. They wanted to have him you know, hey,
what if we could just give you like X amount
we owe fifty four? What are you twenty four? Now
He's like, no, I want all my money and they

(09:57):
have to pay him all his money. Now when it
comes to Michigan, this is where it gets interesting. Like
we said, this is not a closely guarded secret what
was going on. And because of that, there are now
rumors that they wanted to get rid of him, and

(10:20):
that the person in question, who was his executive assistant,
Paige Shiver, was actually a plant. What yeah, that's the
that's the latest conspiracy already, that she was a plant
to help get Michigan to get rid of him. Man, conspiracies,

(10:46):
Oh goodness me, they start fast. It just it's amazing.
And look, people's lives are ruined. They are people screw
up in life. People make poor decisions.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
We all have.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I have, everybody has in life. Some are worse than others,
some hurt more. But that's what again, this has become.
Nothing can be just as what it is. This guy's
a father of three, a husband, and it's just insane

(11:28):
not to mention the fact that he was threatening to
kill himself and took knives over to her place. Oh man, crazy,
And yet right to the conspiracy theories. It's what we do.
It's what we do anymore. Nothing can be as it is.
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(12:58):
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
Joe, you're listening to the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
It is that time of the week where you take
a listen back to the chaos, the craziness and the
lunacy that was just this week. Thank god it's finally Friday.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
She's like the only fat nine I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
What happened to just you look nice?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Well?

Speaker 8 (13:30):
I'm done with politics, is you?

Speaker 9 (13:32):
I'm done with going along to get along?

Speaker 10 (13:34):
This is the first time since I got elected at
twenty eighteen where the residents are afraid of their own government.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I'm not a hundred dollars holding me. I know how.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
I'll say anybody's burning old. I do my boggeting and
do my skim I'm on the morning.

Speaker 11 (13:53):
I'll be brock.

Speaker 12 (13:55):
It's fine.

Speaker 11 (13:57):
I'm a friend here. It's fun.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I think you get more respect when you're well dressed.

Speaker 13 (14:11):
It's always good to just stress up and feel good
about yourself.

Speaker 14 (14:14):
Is it bad that I don't want to see it
in the women's locker room.

Speaker 13 (14:18):
I'm here to report that many of the traits I
go along with being a nice guy do, in fact,
hinder you in the dating market.

Speaker 11 (14:26):
It's fund on motor, it's fun.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Working.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Come after me, call me names. I don't care. Call
me what you want. Go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 15 (14:45):
Whatever Erica has gone off on conspiracy theorists. Obviously every
journalist out there is emailing me because it's it's about me.
It's indirect, but it's also about me.

Speaker 16 (15:00):
STYMI wondering if I ever Windy had a thirty hours
slowly Junity Brodie.

Speaker 11 (15:10):
Of Free.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know this whole thing is they use the word affordability.
It's a Democrat hope. We're never supposed to be in
the position before Glory called the great coach is great? David?
What a week?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you know what, we covered it all because that's
what we do and that's who we are. And remember
if you miss any of the show and you're like,
what did they cover? You can always grab the podcast
right here on the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 17 (15:50):
That's the gaition into Sharon Moore earlier Wednesday and determined
with credible evidence that he had had a inappropriate relationship
with the staff member.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Have you ever made lunch with your crotch?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Because today we are are you actually attracted to women?
I am attracted to women? Sure you are, Nick, Sure
you are. Some of the stuff that was missed this
week because we could have done as we can every week.
Ten of those finally Fridays. Yesterday, yet another grand jury
said nah to the indictment of Letitia James, the mortgage fraud.

(16:29):
She came after Trump? Did Trump come after her? Is
it weaponized? Did she weaponized? They've got her and then
they didn't. Now I want you to listen to these
numbers when it comes to how rare to go to
a grand jury and not get an indictment.

Speaker 18 (16:46):
The last time that we had available statistics out of
grand juries and how often and how typical these things
called no true bills are how often that the Justice
Department fails to get an indictment. It was in twenty
teamed it and that was out of one hundred and
sixty five thousand cases that were brought by prosecutors in
just twenty thirteen, only five were rejected by grand jury's.

Speaker 10 (17:10):
That is.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Insane because there's the old saying, right, you can get
an indictment on a ham sandwich. No not if Tiss
James is holding it.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
All right.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Coming up next, Paul Lamone. You guys know him. We've
had him all the show. Our tech expert, AI expert,
my business partner, my uncle. We're going to talk about
AI and the big deal that was done yesterday in
Hollywood with Disney and Sora. That's next Chad.

Speaker 19 (17:39):
Benson Show, Son, Chad Benson Show, The Chat Benson Show yesterday,

(18:04):
how did he was shook up a little bit by
Disney and their new partnership was Sora.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
They're going AI kids, And if you don't know what
that means, I think a lot of people have no
idea exactly what it means. Because Disney's not just going
AI where they're gonna use some of it. They're allowing
people you and I and everybody else to actually use
two hundred plus of their characters from The Avengers thinks

(18:35):
of that nature. But nobody's really sure exactly what it
all means. That's why last night I called the person
I ain't know who knows AI. Who's my mistress, partner,
my uncle. You guys have heard him on the show
many times, big time creative nerd Fatty Acid Studios, which
is a massive AI studio that's on the creative side

(18:55):
of things.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
And I asked him, all right, dude, what exactly does
this mean for the average person? For Disney all of
those things? Because this has really shaken up Hollywood. Yeah,
what it means not what everybody's thinking.

Speaker 20 (19:13):
Doesn't mean you'd be able to create your own episode
of Mickey Mouse fights Luke Skywalker. What it does mean
is all their characters, not the voices, but the characters
are open for short form content, so memes at the
end of the day. So you're gonna allow to be
able to create Disney Plus Channels style memes.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Disney Plus will play some of these.

Speaker 20 (19:35):
They'll play some of it, but it won't be there
still has to be the quality checks and also the
you know, the content checks. So it's not like I'm
gonna just push it and everybody's gonna see Mickey Mouse
like vomiting into into you know, the Dumbo's Ears because
I could make that little video and suddenly appears on

(19:55):
Disney Plus. They're putting their toes in the water for
what media is going to be in the future, and
they're saying, we're gonna start with kind of like this
short form vertical shorts media meme type you know content,
and you one ut a percent know because it's a
multi year deal that by the end of this year deal,
they're going to say, hey, look how good this is.
What if we made users could now prompt their entire episode.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's what I think it's going to come to, because
you've said it for exponential experience. Everybody wants to own
experience in this. They want it. With music. We've talked
about like artists who are going to join together, We've
talked about all those things. But first of all, I
was joking today, I'm like, I don't know how many
you know, Hans Christian Anderson. You know stories, you guys
have run out. You must have run out of all
of them you could find, right, there's no other German

(20:37):
that wrote any kind of you know, So all right,
I guess we're gonna have to turn to the people.
I mean, think about it a year from now. And
I said this on the radio last couple of days.
The next James Cameron may be in a garage in Iowa.

Speaker 20 (20:49):
He's going to be because remember, I always point to
one of the largest IP authors on earth was a
single mom. Yeah, just riding the train, wrote Haylar Potter
got turned down ninety times because all the smart people
said that no one, no kids get to read a
book that long got turned down ninety times and became
one of the most prolific IP holders with Harry Potter

(21:10):
that you know you could she she's up there with everybody. Yeah,
you have you know, you see it all the time.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
You see that.

Speaker 20 (21:15):
You know the Mars movie with oh the guy trapped
on Mars, it's a oh, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, thank you.
That was from an independent guy. He couldn't get his
book published, so he did it independently. The number one
music artist right now in country is it Ai.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (21:32):
Warner Music said they're more than open to having AI
basically what Disney's doing letting people remix their artists and
create new AI tracks. It's it's coming and this is
something we got to think of. We used to think
entertainment something we sit down and it just pushed get
pushed to us. Now the audience needs to think of
entertainment something that can tailor to me. It's not just

(21:53):
going to be pushed. If I don't like that episode
of Stranger Things, I'll change it. If I think that
it shouldn't be ending at season five, And they went
off on a hair brain trail kind of like the
end of Game of Thrones, which a lot of people do.
For example, I could fix it. I could fix Game
of Thrones indeed I could fix. It's a new way
to approach your media that the audience I think is

(22:13):
going to be quick to accept, but the creators need
to learn to accept. Yeah, the creators and I have
to be careful because we're dealing with quite a few
of them right now, still have this concept that nobody
can do things as good as they can. But that's
that's I think historically that's never been the case. There's
somebody like you said in Iowa, in Utah, they can

(22:34):
do things. Every bit is good. Yeah, they just don't
have the connections or the the tools to do it.
And this is going to change that.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, I was talking to a lady, Jamie Paul.
She's a singer. She's got a couple hundred thousand people
on Spotify. Her husband's a big you know, he's he
writes like he he writes like not operas, but musicals
not you know, I mean, it's they're big. And she's
out here and you know, like she's huge in Japan

(23:05):
and we were talking yesterday, and you know, she's got
a new song out with Larry Gatlin from the Gatlin Brothers,
his baby It's cold outside, And she says, you know what.
I did a demo for this guy and I just
sang it and then I put it into sona and
or whatever it. She goes, it got back to me.

(23:27):
They said thanks for the demo, and she says, hey,
can I releases as a single And they said, yeah,
that's absolutely cool, even though somebody else it was meant for,
like a dude, but they won. And she goes, it
is incredible what it produced. And I didn't have to
do anything well. I sang it and I didn't have
to do any of the I didn't have to to
mix it. I gave it three or four prompts of

(23:48):
what I wanted it to sound like, and the first
time wasn't good. The second time was perfect.

Speaker 20 (23:53):
Everybody got mad at that McDonald's commercial because I was
reading the comments r and people are like, oh, now,
computers making everything. Some of it is educating people. That's
not possible. That's not gonna be possible for an incredibly
long time. It takes an incredible amount of human interaction
in order to get this. Any form of narrative, any
form of other than like a cat juggling or something,

(24:15):
but you know, any form of coherent narrative, takes human
interaction at very high levels all across the production. It
just takes less amount of humans. At the ind of
Avengers movie, you have two hundred or more names. That's
not going to be that case anymore. But is that
a bad thing? We now only get giant movies or

(24:35):
tiny movies. All that middle ground movies have been washed
away because there's no money for it. So audiences are
one side complaining because they said, oh AI is taking
over and it's getting rid of jobs, and the other
side they're complaining. All Hollywood does and entertainmentustry does is
rehash the same old things because that's all you'll spend
on right now. So AIS can be able to bridge

(24:56):
that gap. I'm going to be able to create an
Avenger sized spectacle at a Downton Abbey.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Cost always put the doubt and Abbey with you, and they're.

Speaker 20 (25:04):
Always in the Downton Abbey, and that's going to be
the big difference. Now audiences are going to realize that
AI is not taking away jobs. They're talking about jobs,
but as allowing more people to work, but just not
as many on every single project.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Talking to Paul them own CEO of Fatty Acid, studios,
AI creative studios. I see why people are scared of
AI in some ways because limited understanding of the opportunities
in front of him. But that's the whole thing, man, opportunities.
People don't really know exactly what to do with it yet,
whether they work in an office or they're creative, and

(25:41):
they think that it's something that's going to take everything
away from them.

Speaker 20 (25:44):
I use it kind of like a legacy. Jen and
Rodenberry had. How many Star Treks made after him. Some
of them are really horrible and he's rolling in the grave,
but some of them really good. And he established the
world and characters everybody loved and then just got built upon.
If I was a creat and I established worlds, and
users in AI started building on my role worlds and

(26:05):
expanding them and making them larger than what I originally created.
And at the same time, I'm benefiting the reward because
I still get a percentage or royalty because it's my creation.
How's that scary' that's you don't have the ability to
do that anymore. I mean, unless you're JK. Rowling or
you know, George Lucas or something like that. AI now

(26:25):
allows users to enjoy something to take off and make
franchises of what you might have just had as a
single production.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
You know what, I think it scares people when we
talk about AI and business. Everybody thinks everybody's going to
lose their jobs. But they're talking about that in a
how can we slick things down? You're a major corporation,
You've got five hundred thousand people. How can I make
it's only three people work here and I get all
the profit. But you forget about it from the creative
side of stuff. First of all, that's a long way
away from getting rid of everybody because it's they're still

(26:55):
struggling with that. They don't know quite how to do it.
And trust me, every business in the world likes to
have no what do you worked for? Everybody work for free.
That's never gonna happen. But the creative side, it's massive.
It's massive.

Speaker 20 (27:08):
And you know what, at the end of the day,
if you are a barista and the robot is trained
to make a you know, you know, a fruit loop latte,
well that's cool, but somebody had to come up with
that idea.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
The robot didn't.

Speaker 20 (27:23):
So there's still no matter what segmentation of business that
the AI starts to enhance, there's going to always be
humans involved. Now the question always is is how many humans?
And then what will the ones that what will the
humans that get pushed to the side be able to do?

(27:44):
Like what will the barista be able to do with
their you know, gender studies degree other than be a barista.
Well they may have to go back and learn how
to be a plumber, you know, learn to plumb. I
remember when they was like learn to code. Now it's
learn to plumb, learned electric. It's a transitional period and

(28:06):
that's why it's scary. But it is not the dystopian
outlook that everybody puts on it. And all the naysayers
on AI are getting proven wrong daily. This deal with
Disney proves there is just the beginning of the applications
for AI. It is not answering questions, It is not
chat GTP. And so when people go, well AI can't

(28:28):
grow beyond this, you mean it can't grow beyond this
because you're pigeonholing it to basically a search engine abilities
Or are you saying Gemini, which is Sora, which is
Disney contract is finding ways to monetize itself in multiple industries.
That's how you see these tyion dollar companies be able

(28:48):
to actually make back or potentially make back moneys for
their shareholders. It's not because they're going to have the
best Google alternative. And that's why people are putting the
equation of AI and they also not putting in equation
of the breakthroughs. We're having an equipment yeah, where even
you know, our handheld devices, even cell phones will soon

(29:09):
have the capability to be able to compute AI question
and answers and those kind of things there on the
phone itself. Not to mention the network size approach that's
going to happen. Basically, it's all the same naysayers. You
read back, if you there's a book about popular delusions

(29:32):
and the madness of crowds, and it talked about from
the tulips to the to the to the shipping lines.
You had people realize that, what do you mean, I'm
getting tobacco from America, ship to China back and forth. Well,
here's all thing's wrong with that, here's us will never
sustain itself. Well, of course it did. We now have
a global economy because shipping turned this whole thing into

(29:54):
you know, something that works everywhere. I even saw the
anti electricity propaganda during the early nineteen hundred from.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Big Candle, from Big Candle, Big Candle in Big Way.
It was.

Speaker 20 (30:05):
It was scary things about how electricity is gonna ruin
the world. Yeah, you know, don't don't trust electricity. It's
a killer. It's a hidden killer in your house, no joke.
And I just see the parallels right now about AI.
People are scared of it because they don't understand it,
mostly because they don't use it. And that's why I
always say use it, use it, as it'll demistify it.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and I just tell everybody use it because you're
not gonna break it. No, you know, you're not gonna
break it. Go ahead and use it and figure out
what you can play with it. And it's it's fun.
You're not gonna break it. I think everything's are gonna break.
It's like, oh my god, I'm gonna break. You're not
gonna break AI. And don't fall in love with it. No,
don't give it a name. Don't give it a name.
Don't know what mine calls me now, good morning sunshine.

(30:48):
I'm like, oh god, it's talking to me now. And
they're clingy they are. It's very clingy, they are. I
used Gemini once after I use chat Gypt and chat
GPT is like, did you go somewhere else and do someone?
I was like, oh, what other ais are you using?
That's right, none, I don't really I love you, let's it.
I mean just experimenting with other So that was my
conversation last night with Paulomone, CEO of Fatty Acid Studios.

(31:13):
Creative nerd guy was one of the creators of World
of Warcraft and all that stuff, talking about AI and
the well what's coming with AI? Which is going to
be again very very interesting. But the whole thing with
Disney has shaken up Hollywood in a major, major way.
So hey, who knows. Again, you get the characters used,
you don't get the voices, but the creativity and the

(31:35):
opportunity to have your stuff if it's good on Disney
plus and the potential for Disney to then say, hey,
I like this, Let's see if we can do some
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worst Christmas songs of all time. Number three Marry Christmas.
Number three comes from a band I like. They're called
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Oh Sanna, I've been waiting on you.

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Oh Sanna, I been killing just for fun.

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Will the party's over? Kid?

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Speaker 1 (36:23):
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Speaker 2 (36:54):
Where do we start? Where do we start? Indiana? Did
you get yourself some Cohn what? It's very interesting. Yesterday
we touched on a little bit what would Indiana do redistricting?

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
The fight that is on right now. Everybody's trying to
figure out how they can redistrict get themselves more. The
Republicans are desperate to get themselves more seats. I mean
it's evident. I mean both parties redistrict excuse me, Jerry
Mander whenever they can. But there's kind of a way
that you do it, right. Texas went against that. California
then had a vote so they could do it. And

(37:31):
there's pressure on other Republicans and Democrats to get to
doing it as well, because that's exactly what our founding
fathers were hoping for. It's like o if only in
the future these places would do everything they can to
make sure that they could hold on to power regardless

(37:53):
of how bad they do. Nineteen ninets. Thirty one knows
this bill has been defeated.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
We stay quiet and gallery, thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
You're welcome. That was them reading it out yesterday. The
Conservatives had a supermajority have a supermajority in Indiana. There's
a lot of reasons why this happened, and some of
it is the fact that the attitude was not of

(38:29):
gratitude but more of threatening nature, which I think kind
of how should I say this turn some folks off?
In Indiana?

Speaker 21 (38:40):
A conservative think tank claiming Trump threatened to stript federal
funding from Indiana, saying roads will not be paid, guard
bases will close, major projects will stop. White House officials
tell Politico Trump never made such threats.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's not what other people are saying. Gene Lysing was
asked about it.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
I voted for him three times.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I like a lot of the things he's done. I
didn't like this. Why would I cave to? What I
would tell you is bullied.

Speaker 19 (39:11):
You wouldn't change minds by being mean, and the efforts
were mean spirited in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
We're not going to be intimidated wards, we're strong, people
go who's yours. There's also something else. Trump really needed
Indiana in twenty sixteen because he needed evangelicals, because let's
be real, he's Donald Trump. Mike Pence helped him. And

(39:42):
there's a lot of old school, if you will, conservatives
in Indiana, old school conservative, Christian conservative that aren't the
nationalist but they're Christians first and foremost. And I'll tell

(40:06):
you this right now, this I think is more than
just pissing Trump off. I think it sends little shockwaves.
This is the first time in group that they stood
up and said no, we're not going to do this,
and it wasn't even close. Is it a wake up call?
We're going to find out because I as we've talked about,

(40:27):
and we're gonna talk a little bit later on with
the Jim Kennedy of the Kennedy Institute of Public Policy Research,
where do the Republicans go after this? Because there's a
lot of Republicans that I think are going to retire
in the next six to eight weeks. You're going to
see a ton of a flurry of announcements and could

(40:47):
be twenty, could be thirty, could be forty, could be
who knows what they see the writing on the wall. Yes,
I think as we've heard from some of them, Don Bacon,
the likes that they're just kind of over the vitriol
and the hate that's out there. And that's understandable. That
is some of them are going to say, oh, I

(41:08):
don't want to go down with the ship kind of thing.
There's also some of them thinking, even if I do
win right a dead red district, then what Trump's not around?
I continue to do what I do. Who's going to
believe or buy into what I'm saying. And I've talked
to a few old school conservatives, both in the House

(41:28):
and who lead campaigns, and that's the worry that some
have along with all the other stuff. And there is
other stuff, case in point yesterday healthcare that ain't getting done,
that isn't getting done at all. And I'm surprised that
John Thune allowed the vote to go through with the

(41:53):
Democrats rather than just taking the vote at all.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
That he did.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I'm just kind of shocked by doing that. He allowed
Chuck Schuber to and Chuck Schuber did something, he maneuvered
around him, and he's old right, He's in his little
rascal moving around, and he maneuvered around thoone, because now
you're on record saying no, we're not going to extend

(42:19):
those subsidies, and your subsidies are going to go up,
and it's now a U problem.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Unfortunately, our Republican colleagues refused to do what they should
have done. I want everyone here to understand just what
happened on the Senate floor. Senate Republicans just shoved the
American people off the side of a cliff with no

(42:44):
parachute and with an anchor tied to their feet. Republicans
just blocked the Democrats bill for a clean, simple extension
of the ACA tax credits, the last chance they had
to ensure people's premiums do not skyrocket in the coming months.

(43:05):
Democrats did the work, but now Republicans chose the consequences.
Now Republicans have all but guaranteed that tens of millions
of people will see their premiums double or triple or
more next year. Republicans now own America's health care crisis.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
They do that was by design. Well play, old man,
well played. I mean, Democrats, this is your stuff, but Republicans,
you're in charge. And so the question is what do
you do now. So both those things died on arrival.
The Republican and the Democrats said it next week, supposedly,

(43:50):
Mike Johnson's got his, but those are now. Trump signaled
something yesterday which I think is smart. I think he's
finally maybe listening to what some people are saying. I
hope he is, because if I'm them, the Republicans, I
extended for a year. Put the ball back in their court,
extended by a year, and then come up with a

(44:11):
real plan to fix cost, come up with a real
plan that improves our actual care rather than just make
stuff cheaper. I really believe we can work on healthcare
together and come up with something that's going to be.

Speaker 13 (44:31):
Much better, much less expensive for the people, less expensive
for our nation.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But if you don't, if you can't, it's going to
be a nightmare because unfortunately, you are going to get
saddled with it. It's going to land like a lead balloon.
So why not put some helium in him, kick it
out for a year, actually work to get something done.

(45:00):
And by work to get something done. Take the serious people,
the people you don't hear about, the people that are
on the Ways and Means committees, the people that you
wouldn't even think are anything other than an accountant, right
a vice principle. You know they don't look the part.
They're not on TV, they're not out there tweeting a

(45:21):
thousand times a day, they're not saying something crazy, and
allow them to get in the room and to actually
figure out what they can do to start to bring
the cost down, to make it more manageable, and how
we can get ourselves in a situation where there is
us closer to our care provider rather than than ninety

(45:45):
seven hundred people between our care provider. Telling people we're
going to give you an HSA account. I'm a big
believer in those two. But giving somebody one thousand dollars,
they can't spend it on premiums, soames go through the
roof giving them the grant. Isn't it gonna help them?
I would like to see no subsidies. I think most

(46:06):
people would because it's affordable. So that's the thing. No subsidies.
But because you guys fix the problem enough that you
caused by the way, and in doing so, this allows
people to have choices that we no longer seem to

(46:33):
have monopolies. The lobbyist we can go on and on.
We've talked about it. So Republicans, once this thing hits
January first, it's over. Remember next week is it? They're gone.
Then they're on vacation again. Then what well, you can't
just tell everybody, hey, our plan, because there are who's
the plan with the plan? I got the plan?

Speaker 6 (46:53):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
It's a plan?

Speaker 6 (46:55):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Don't get sick? What don't get ye, it's sick. Hey, doc,
my arm hurts when I do that. Don't do that?
Oh my goodness me. We'll see, we'll see what happens.
It's going to be interesting, no doubt about that. You've
got a week and hopefully, if to me they're smart,

(47:21):
they'll kick it out a year. One year, get working
on it in the real way that you need to,
and start going around the globe and looking at models
that work in other countries. Let me know what you think.
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about energy. Energy is going down. Uh, gas prices are
going down, but electric prices are going out. When we
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Speaker 1 (49:49):
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Speaker 2 (49:51):
This time last week. We're talking about the World Cup
and the draw of the World Cup. The schedule is
out now and and let's just say as excited as
I am, and we're working on some stuff where we're
going to be covering it. I went to the last
World Cup. I was, you know, still in and around

(50:15):
the world of soccer. So we had friends and we
had people that were able to hook us up with
tickets and stuff, and so that was a blessing. Yeah,
this time the average person, Holy Mother of.

Speaker 22 (50:27):
God, FIFA didnt announce prices as low as sixty dollars,
but critics say those tickets are nearly nonexistent. A new
price list now shows tickets starting at one hundred and
eighty dollars, nearly nine times the twenty one dollars price
tag that US officials targeted when they bid for the tournament.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Expensive, ecxpensive, and I'm gonna start breaking some of those
numbers down here in the second continue.

Speaker 22 (50:55):
If a fan wanted to watch their team go all
the way to the final, tickets could top eight thousand dollars.
While some tickets are being offered at fixed prices, FIFA
is also using dynamic pricing, adjusting prices based on demand.
FIFA says the pricing model reflects the existing market practice
for major entertainment and sporting events.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I understand that I do. And it's a huge event,
and it's crazy to think about the cost of some
of this stuff, and it's only going to go up.
So these are the first round games, Okay, wait till
it gets to the knockout stages and beyond, because you're

(51:37):
talking about then the major players playing each other, the
big power teams, right like potentially Brazil versus the Netherlands,
or Spain versus Germany, or potentially the US, going on
and on, and they're playing one of those teams so

(51:58):
I'm going to give you a rundown of the NUB
just for the first round games. Okay, these are the
first round games. You want to go see. Mexico first
round game four thousand dollars, Canada versus two be determined
sixteen hundred, same thing for USA versus Paraguay three two, three, five,

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the first round games. And by the way, if you think, well,
fifteen hundred, there's only four percent of those left. The
Mexico game, there's only two percent of tickets left. So

(52:42):
people aren't going to you know and saying, ah, we're
not going to go to this. They're spending it. But
if you think this is expensive, wait till the next round.
Speaking of expensive and affordability, Trump is touting, you know,
gas prices where they are, and that's great. We all
want to see gas prices come down. If you don't

(53:02):
want to see gas prices come down, you're insane. You
don't want to see them collapse too much, especially if
you're in the oil industry. But for us, we'd like
to have it as free, but that's not the way
the world works. But as gas prices are coming down,
that's actually being offset price wise. As far as savings
every month by electricity, natural gas is up big time

(53:25):
and in some states they are feeling well. I guess
the heat energy costs are on the rise.

Speaker 9 (53:31):
A new report finds that the price of electricity has
increased thirteen percent across the country this year. Since the
beginning of the year, New York's energy costs have gone
up more than five hundred and fifty dollars, just behind Missouri's,
which increased more than five hundred and sixty dollars, and Massachusetts,
which saw the biggest increase more than seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 12 (53:52):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
And I don't think it's going to get any better
based on the data and the data center's coming to
help AI get powered. No, I don't think that's going
to get any better anytime soon. Speaking of the economy
and whatnot, coming up next, Zac a Ram, chief investment
Officer Board Capital, is going to join the program. We're
going to talk about the economy, we're going to talk
about the market, and we're going to talk about what
he said when it comes to lowering rates or keep

(54:16):
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Show is that time of the week we talk about
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chief of investment officer Board Capital, joins the program. All right,
let's see here. Where do we start. Oh, the economy.
I don't know if you're aware of this.

Speaker 11 (54:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I feel like there's issues and we got a rate cut,
and you said it. I played it the last couple
of days last week. You said, we have basically two
bad choices. Choice number one, we cut rates, We're gonna
run hot four to six percent. Choice number two is
we don't cut rates, and then all of a sudden,
we're probably gonna go into recession. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (55:22):
Yeah, And that's and that's kind of where you're at.
I you know, there's there's a lot of there's a
lot of really conflicting data. I think you and I
talked about this too. I think everybody's holding to the
whole retail sales number. But like I said, to you, Yeah,
Black Friday retail sales numbers, gross numbers, we're up seven percent.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
The volumes were down one. So what that says to
me is that that was not increase buying, right, that
was just increased prices. When you consider the.

Speaker 23 (55:49):
Bump that household wealth took this year and then you
look at those retail numbers, I think it tells you
what I think anecdotally most of us know, which is,
you know, the consumer in that middle ground consumer that
I'd say kind of makes.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
Up the.

Speaker 23 (56:05):
You know, if you take if you take the economy
and you've got the top ten percent, you know, and
you got that next percentage that goes from you know,
seventy to eighty, right, that twenty percent in the middle
I think they're struggling. And you know, I think the
middle class now to the fifty percentile, everybody's it's tight.
And I think when you look at credit cards, when

(56:27):
you look at crowdfunding websites, all of those things would
suggest that that kind of middle ground consumer stretch to
the max.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
You know what I got Several people asked me this week,
they said, hey, when you talk to Zach, ask him
about what's a K shaped economy because you keep hearing
it's a K shaped economy, it's a K shaped economy,
And I'm like, you know what, let Zach explain to you. Yeah,
so it's.

Speaker 23 (56:52):
Actually a really good analogy K shaped economy. So think
about the K, right, the top part of the K
is going up, bottom part of the K going down. Right,
So saying, hey, the people at the top of the
economy are doing better, right, doing phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I'm a perfect example. I manage money for a living.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Right.

Speaker 23 (57:08):
Our company had to another record year, right, banner year.
My incomes ives has ever been. Our employees incomes with
the highest to ever been. We manage money. We're kind
of emblematic of.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
The K shaped economy.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Right.

Speaker 23 (57:21):
You flip around and look at the guy that the
guy has's gotten raise in the last two years.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Right, Meanwhile, prices keep going up.

Speaker 23 (57:27):
He's on that lower okay, right, that's leading lower house
prices is getting more inaffordable.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
He doesn't know he's gonna.

Speaker 23 (57:32):
Pay for college for the kids. And the problem you've got.
And I was explaining this to my cousin who just
started working for me. He's twenty five, first real job
out of college, and you know, he's asking these questions,
you know what's going on? And I said, look, economic policy,
And I use the air quotes on purpose because it
really wasn't but monetary and economic policy for the last

(57:54):
twenty five years. If you boil it down, you can
distill it right down to the baseline of what it was.
It was all about boosting asset prices the baby Boomers.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Owned and why did they do that? Mostly for political reasons.

Speaker 23 (58:08):
The Baby Boomers were the wealthiest generation in the history
of the country and the largest voting block. So if
you're a politician then wants to get reelected, what are
you going to do? You're going to aim your policies
at them. And that's what they've done.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
And it's it.

Speaker 23 (58:22):
You've just kept reinforcing it because the things that boost
asset prices typically aren't that beneficial to the actual economy.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Right, And so it becomes the financialization of everything.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Right.

Speaker 23 (58:35):
How many homes in America are owned by corporate America
investment funds? I don't know the number, but it's by
far a record. You've financialized everything.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
And why have you done that?

Speaker 23 (58:43):
Because that's where the growth has been, right, Like, let's
not forget what these last ten years leading up to
COVID were you know, you had an incredible stock market
run from twenty ten all the way to twenty twenty,
and yet at the same time, what did we see.
We saw the slowest on record for wage growth in
an economic expansion, and that was in an economic expansion

(59:05):
that was the longest on record that saw the greatest
stock market gains.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Why was that?

Speaker 23 (59:10):
Because everything you did was aimed at asset prices, zero
percent interest rates, quantitative easing operation twist when they were
selling the front or they were selling the front end
and buying.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
The long end of the curve.

Speaker 23 (59:22):
That was all about trying to bring long end rates
down right, look at the I mean just everything you
did was about stimulating asset prices. And this is what
we've been talking about for the last ten years, is
that when you keep on pushing that button with every
single problem, you will eventually get to a place where
that button becomes the problem.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And you even hear it. Now, listen to the Trump
administration every time people and same.

Speaker 23 (59:47):
On the left, every time they throw out an economic idea,
it's some kind of subsidy. New York sending out three
hundred and six hundred dollars checks to everybody to help
with inflation. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, right,
And so it's like they just keep going back to
the well and you're looking at them and going, guys,
that we're not having a deflation problem.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Right.

Speaker 23 (01:00:09):
It's like it's like you somebody yelled fire and you
grabbed a blowtorch. See, no, we need a hose man,
you know what I mean. And it's it's like they're
not waking up to it. And so look, the bottom
line is this. You said it perfectly in your preamble today,
which is you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Got two clear choices.

Speaker 23 (01:00:30):
You can either tackle inflation or you can try to
stimulate and drive asset prices higher, and inflation is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Gonna rip and neither good. No, that's that there. Hey,
now it's time to be big boys.

Speaker 23 (01:00:43):
Now it's time to put our big boy britches on
and admit that we're facing a lot of decisions, none
of which you're good.

Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
No talking talking to sack a Ram chievestment officer board Capital.
You know you talk about that the baby boomers. My
mom's a baby booter and she said yesterday, she goes,
I'm loving the fact that you know, she's retired now.
And she goes the fact that I can draw more money,
and my you know, every it seems all the time,
I just look at it's growing, and it's growing, it's growing.

(01:01:12):
And she goes the meantime, I got your little brothers
and sisters and they're renting a six thousand dollars fourteen
hundred square foot house together in Garden Grove, So six
thousand dollars a month or sixty five because they had
to pay like like not fees because they had dogs,
so they had to pay an extra two fifty for
So it's sixty five hundred dollars a month for their house.

(01:01:35):
I think it's fifteen hundred square feet or something like that.
And I'm and she goes, I get the fact that
the frustration level with the younger generation and the happiness
of the older generation.

Speaker 23 (01:01:47):
Yeah, I it's hey, And there there is a lesson
in there. And I hate to be the guy bringing
this up because what is it? How does it help
us right now?

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
It doesn't?

Speaker 23 (01:01:58):
Okay, But also sometime times you get in these bad
situations and you realize the only upside is the lesson
you're gonna learn you know what I mean, Like you're like, okay, hey, look,
brace yourself, boys, this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Is gonna hurt. However, remember to take notes right so
we don't have to go there again.

Speaker 23 (01:02:13):
And I kind of think that's one of the situations
we're in economically, and and it's and it's it's it's
tragically unfair to the young folks. The older folks don't
want to take the pain, right, and they want those
stock prices to keep going up. And and I'll tell you,
I think that you got an interesting look here, because

(01:02:34):
when you know, when we start talking about stock prices,
you know, I think that's starting to look a little
shaky too, especially on a relative basis.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Billy, what are you talking about? The SP's up seventeen
percent this year and as accept twenty two.

Speaker 23 (01:02:47):
Yeah, let's I'd venture to guess they won't be up
that much next year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
No, I venture as well.

Speaker 23 (01:02:53):
And then the flip side is Chad. You know, I've
been telling you so long. We did some work today
on a name, and I just want to use this.
This is a quick example for you and your listeners.
You know, I've been talking about gold mining and silver
and gold and silver for the last eighteen months before
it was cool, and those things have run a lot
right past gold this week. Well yeah, yeah, so yeah,

(01:03:17):
silver's getting off to the races. Man, it's kind of
worrying me. It's going up so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Well yeah, because it blue pass where gold had grown
this year, and you're like, Holy mother of goodness.

Speaker 23 (01:03:25):
I know it has Okay, and and and being mister
sensitive and managing risk and all that kind of stuff.
Is that that always concerns me. But there's something else
happening here that I don't think anybody's really realizing. And
nobody has been in and I'm talking not with any size,
not with any money whatsoever. Nobody has been in precious
metals since twenty eleven. Okay, it has been like a

(01:03:48):
roach motel. Okay, tech took off. Those things were in
the doghouse and didn't get up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Right.

Speaker 23 (01:03:56):
Well, think of what has happened to global markets, market
capitalization levels around the world, government debt, deficit, spending, money supply.
Think about what's happened since the last time fifteen years
ago when people were in in measurable amounts into.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
The gold sector.

Speaker 23 (01:04:16):
Okay, Well, because it's been such a long hard winner,
you have less shares outstanding trading on the markets for
gold miners today than you did then. Okay, in the meantime,
look what's happened to the money supply, Look what's happened
to crypto? All these things have exploded. Okay, the gold
mining industry is contracted, you are, in my opinion, you're

(01:04:39):
starting to see the very beginnings of money starting to
flow in those channels. The difference is those channels were
made to handle one hundred gallons an hour. This market
wants to pump ten thousand gallons an hour into these
ill liquid names, and these things are gonna go ballistics.
So normally I would be concerned about what we're seeing

(01:05:01):
with silver because it's going up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Too fast, kind of like gold did.

Speaker 23 (01:05:06):
But when you start realizing how small those markets are
and they have not grown, and they have contracted over
the last fifteen years while everything else has blown out.
I mean, you go back twenty eleven. I think twenty eleven,
you had like nineteen trillion in debt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Ye are your pressing forty? Yeah, all the good old
days at nineteen trillion.

Speaker 23 (01:05:29):
That's when we were fiscally responsible. But so so okay,
people are like, oh, it's overrun, not even close.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
We own a name.

Speaker 23 (01:05:39):
Can't say the name, I can tell you off air,
but we own a mining company that's based in Nevada.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
This thing is up one hundred and forty percent this
year or something like that. Okay. It is currently trading.

Speaker 23 (01:05:53):
At the equivalent of about a nine hundred, nine hundred
and fifty million US market cap. It's a Canadian gold miner,
but their mines are located in the US. And we've
been watching this thing nine hundred let's call it a
nine hundred million dollar market cap. They've got four different projects,
they have no debt on the balance sheet, all permitting

(01:06:14):
and everything is done. They are currently producing, and what
they're doing is they're using that production revenue to get
the next mind producing and kind of a daisy chain effect.
And in addition to that, they've got those properties they
own have reserves, not resources, reserves, so proven gold in
the ground at current prices, and excess of fifty billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Okay.

Speaker 23 (01:06:39):
On top of that, they own one of only two
autoclaves in Nevada. Now, what an autoclave does like a
giant oven that you run your gold or through it.
Burns off the organic material, and it increases drastically in
certain cases the amount of gold that you actually recover
out of the ore. Okay, so ideas are fake numbers,

(01:07:01):
but hey, if you run your goal through the system,
you'll recover fifty thousand dollars worth of gold. If you
run it through the autoclave first, you'll recover seventy five thousand. Right,
that's kind of kind of the way it works. So
autoclaves are very rare and extreme. You haven't built one
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Country for forty years, Okay, you're not.

Speaker 23 (01:07:21):
You will get new mind permits and authorizations before you'll
see any new auto claves built. So if this company
wanted to sell this autoclave that it just did a
refurbishing on, you're probably looking at a sales prices somewhere
between five to seven h are million bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So we're buying the company at a nine hundred million
dollar market cap.

Speaker 23 (01:07:43):
So we're effectively buying an expensive autoclave and getting fifty
billion in gold reserves thrown in. As a kicker, you
look at these things economically, and I can't tell you
what the price of the stock's going to do, but
I can tell you Organizationally, when you're buying companies at
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What happened and now the conspiracy theories wrapped around it?
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Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
This is the Chad Benson Show, the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
For all the chaos and politics, and trust me, there's
plenty of that. There's some other chaos going on, and
it's already started to become a conspiracy and it's a
huge story. So if you guys don't know about what
happened with the football coach of Michigan, you're about to.

(01:13:55):
And then the new conspiracy that's shirling around.

Speaker 24 (01:13:59):
The firestorms surrounding former University of Michigan head football coach
Sharon Moore is only growing. Local authorities telling NBC News
their investigation into an alleged assault is ongoing and that
more will be arraigned later today, though he has not
yet been formally charged. It comes as NBC News obtained
this audio from Wednesday afternoon of a nine to one

(01:14:20):
to one dispatcher describing a chaotic call from an ann
Arbor home. Public records show a female university employee has
an apartment there.

Speaker 19 (01:14:28):
It's called the caller to It is in the location
of the house attack here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
The state depends out here for months.

Speaker 24 (01:14:35):
Moore's name is not mentioned on the audio, and so
far police have not commented on whether he's connected to
the alleged assault.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Now you hear this, So here's a guy, right, seems
to have it all. What young one of the youngest
college football coaches in the country. You see that everybody knows,
you know who he is, and he's leading, by the way,
arguably one of the top five most famous football programs

(01:15:09):
in the country. It's up there. You've got USC, Alabama,
Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State. I mean these are this
is royalty. And what happened? How did this guy decide that,

(01:15:34):
you know, hey, I'm gonna go and and do this.
Is there more to the story? And then he goes
over there and he threatens to allegedly do something to
this staffer who obviously was having an affair with And
that's where everything starts to go kind of wacky, because

(01:15:54):
the latest this is gonna be arraigned, and we don't
know what the chargers are gonna because he even charged yet.
But you know that he was threatened to hurt himself allegedly,
all of this stuff. And this is a man whose
life now is turned way upside down. It's horrible. People
have affairs, people do bad things. Yes, this moves it

(01:16:17):
up a notch. Right, you recover from a lot of stuff.
Nobody cares in football if you had an affair, all right,
you know when they care when you're not doing well
and they have an opportunity to get rid of you.
See where I'm going with this. This is where the
conspiracy comes in that the page lady paid Shiver, whose

(01:16:41):
dad I think is a scout for the Bears, was
a plant. That she was a plant because they wanted
to get away from him and for whatever reason they
didn't want to fire him and pay him out. They
were very excited about not paying him out. This is

(01:17:04):
the now new conspiracy that she came out of nowhere
was put there by somebody, maybe the not so much
the faculty, but I'm talking about donors and all of
these kind of things. And to get close and to
I mean, this is already where's it's taken off from.
It's insane, which got me thinking because you see the

(01:17:26):
stuff with Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk and of course
Candace Owens and all of this stuff that's flying around
with that and how nasty that's become. But that's clicks
likes and all of this kind of things, and it's
horrible what's going on there. Because Charlie died, it was horrific.

(01:17:49):
Lives are ruined. We talked about that. We know why
they throw the conspiracy out there. Clicks likes, shares, subscriptions, right,
subscribe to my channel and what else? Own money? Right,
So they don't care about the the the infamy means nothing,

(01:18:12):
right because a subscriber is a subscriber. Thumbs down, thumbs up,
doesn't matter as long as you're watching. As I said yesterday,
it's not personal business. With the Nick Foy intesis and
the Tuckers and all of those things. Well, they're just
asking questions. And you know, all these things tend to
be true. No, they don't all tend to be true,
and in many cases they swing and miss. And next

(01:18:32):
week we're actually going to count down some of the
great conspiracies. You know, we know about the the did
we or did we? You know, land on the moon?
Who killed you know? JFK and all these but there
are stuff out there that you have no idea how
wild it is and how many people believe it. But

(01:18:53):
it got me thinking about conspiracies altogether, and how do
we get there? How does somebody in many cases extremely
intelligent people, not always, but in many cases, what do
they do? They get sucked up? It's crazy. And the

(01:19:16):
patterns that people look for, the way that the brain reacts,
that's the thing that interests me. I'm an Ockham's razor guy.
Usually the simple answer is the answer, because I like
to know, here is this right, and we've solved this

(01:19:38):
puzzle and away we go. It's not always as simple
as that. But one thing I don't do is I'm
not going to be Charlie Brown with the football, right,
go to kick it and then it gets moved because
I see a lot of that canvas. Oh I got
all the receipts, Well, yeah, you never produce. So many
people out there have a lot of receipts for stuff,

(01:19:59):
and every once in a while, like a broken clock.
You're right, But a lot of times it's more asking
questions and the way you ask it sucks people in.
And the fact that this thing with the shumiir Moore
is only a few days old and already the conspiracy
of how they wanted to get rid of him, and

(01:20:19):
the reason is is because he was black, and they
didn't want to fire him because he was black, because
it would have made him look bad, like they're being racist.
And they also have known about this for a long
time and why didn't they step in sooner? And oh,
my goodness me, it's crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:20:34):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
So we're going to count down next week because I
just find this fascinating how people get to the point
where they think that an Egyptian plane fall around Charlie
Kirk and Erica Kirk. How you know we start you know,
I mean you start thinking about all of these things,

(01:20:57):
where how many of these conspiracies it's a false flag,
sandy hook. We can start going on and on about
what about this and what about We're never gonna Some
of it is entertainment value, which is you know, and
if it's if it's a silly thing you know that's
out there, it doesn't hurt anybody like to be you
to Triangle and stuff like that, which is you know,

(01:21:19):
folk core. But there's some conspiracy. But it's different when
you're talking about humans lives. But it's still weird when
you think about how people fall into these things and
how in just a day or two it's like, is
somebody crafting these things? I'm just curious, let me know
what you think. Three two, three, five, three eight, twenty

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four to twenty three at Chad Benson Show, is your ex,
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when we get into Wars, I think conspiracy in a
much bigger way because we've we've known that. We get
into wars and it's it's a money thing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
We know what the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Conspiracy it's not so much a conspiracy is it's a
shaping of a narrative so people can make money. It's
not the conspiracy it you know, used to be. Venezuela
is a perfect example. Remember how it started out. It's
like this is about drugs. Oh yeah, yeah, drugs, Narco

(01:22:18):
terrorists has been around for a long time. And then
it's like, well that's because they're friends of Hamas and
you're like, okay, I don't even know how we even
got to this point, just say you want to go
in and attack and take all the damn oil.

Speaker 26 (01:22:29):
The administration now sanctioning six additional tankers they say are
carrying Venezuelan oil, in addition to sanctioning three nephews of
Venezuela's president, Nicholas Maduro. Overnight, Maduro firing back, calling the
seizure of the tanker kidnapping and robbery, comparing it to
something out of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
That's kind of funny. So he's not going anywhere. And
the more people they sanction and the more people they
go after the US, the more likely there's going to
be something that happens on land. Because we're offering Maduro
the opportunity to leave, how many other people are going

(01:23:13):
to go with him? And those people that stay back?
Do you think they're going to go down quietly?

Speaker 26 (01:23:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I don't think so. I don't think so at all.
I like raccoons. That was a good transition. This guy,
he's trying to get a law passed at least in
his state, and we're trying to do it out here
in Tennessee as well, to legalize raccoons outside and the
clearly marked raccoon crossing zone is one thing. You want

(01:23:41):
them inside the house.

Speaker 16 (01:23:42):
Absolutely, But in at least thirty two states, pet raccoons
are illegal, including here in Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
So Casper Road a bill raccoon ownership to change that
and got it in front of state lawmakers.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Their incredible companion.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Yes they are, and they should be allowed to be pets.
They should. People say, well they're dangerous. First of all,
you can buy I can show you fifty different places
where you can buy raccoons that have been neutered, raccoons
that have been bottle fed and raised, and raccoons that
have all of their shots. They don't have rabies, all right,

(01:24:19):
that just doesn't happen anymore. Well, they're dangerous, are they?
We had two people killed here the other day by dogs.
I can guarantee you. Dogs kill more people than raccoons,
guarantee you. And what if we talked about raccoons. What's
going on with their faces? Their snouts, they're shrinking.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Why is that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Because they're domesticating themselves. We're seeing it in foxes in
parts of eastern Europe they've domesticated themselves. We're seeing it
in several animals. Why not raccoons. That's what I want
for Christmas. My wife won't lend me three two, three,
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Let's find out what's trending on this five day. We're
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I like that.

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But people are like, why why is super Girl so drunk?
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Not the football team, but the legislation because they deny
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came hard, tried to get her, tried to indict her,
her and Komi, and of course we know how that went.

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Well.

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They decided, hey, we're going to go back to the
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Prosecutors are alleged that she was seeking more favorable loan
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Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Down, shot down. Do you want to know how rare
that is the.

Speaker 18 (01:30:07):
Last time that we had available statistics out of grand
juries and how often and how typical these things called
no true bills are, How often that the Justice Department
fails to get an indictment. It was in twenty thirteen,
and that was out of one hundred and sixty five
thousand cases that were brought by prosecutors in just twenty thirteen,

(01:30:27):
only five were rejected by grand jurys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
What's the old saying they could get a grand jury
to indict a ham sandwich, but not Tiss James, unfortunately
for her. I don't think they're giving up because there's
an unlimited amount of times you can go back. Apparently. Yeah,
if you miss any the show, sham on you grab
the podcast coming up. Our buddy, Jim Kennedy Kennedy Institute
of Public Policy Research joined us a program we'll discuss

(01:30:53):
health care, the economy, all kinds of stuff straight at Chad.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
BENSI Chow Sun Chad Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Since down of the Week and talking to our good
buddy Jim Kennedy, Kennedy and se Tent of Public Policy Research.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Let's see here, affordability, Venezuela, who knows what's going on
with Ukraine, and of course healthcare. It's been a hell
of a week, dude, Which one of these do you
want to start with? Which one of these do you
think is the biggest issue?

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
You know, I'm not sure.

Speaker 14 (01:31:45):
To me, maybe the healthcare because that affects so many
people on a daily basis. I mean, it's okay, so
many people being fifteen to twenty million people, which is,
you know, less than ten percent of the population. But
for them, you know, it's going to affect them on
a basis, daily basis. If it doesn't happen by the
end of the year, and the Republicans just aren't doesn't
seem like they're going to budge on it. If I

(01:32:07):
was them, my first recommendation was basically, bite the bullet,
extended for a year, and then try to figure out
something between now and then, because you aren't going to
fix it in the next two weeks. That's clear, because
that great plan that we've heard of for what is
the next seven or eight years now? The Trump had Act,
you know, almost ten years because yeah, in twenty eighteen,
twenty seventeen, he had a plan to replace Obamacare with

(01:32:28):
his great Republican health Care Plan, which has never materialized
normally ever seen any of it on paper other than
hell Snaman's account, which came out about a month ago. Yeah,
they haven't ever delivered anything. And while yeah, I mean,
the Democrats have created this mess with Obamacare and the
continuation of the subsidies and them continuously growing at a

(01:32:48):
very rate higher than inflation because all these church companies knew, hey,
we can charge wherever we want because the government will
just fund the difference. Basically, this payments by the individuals
youmacare have stayed fairly stable.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
They've got up maybe the rate of inflation or less.

Speaker 14 (01:33:05):
But the shurance companies have been raising the policy rates
at a much higher rate, and the government's been making
up the difference. And there was a huge chunk of
money in COVID bills and in some of the Biden
bills I think might have been the Build Back Better
Bill where they were basically throwing hundreds or one hundred
billion dollars or so at subsidies to basically make up
the difference in Obamacare.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
And it's kind of like with the universities.

Speaker 14 (01:33:27):
If you keep giving me more money and thinking that
there is more money, I'll just keep raising rates until
somebody screams and they stop funding it. And we may
have reached that point. But for the Republicans, they're gonna
get this is somehow going to get hung on them.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
I just just know it. They didn't break it, but
it's going to get hung on them.

Speaker 14 (01:33:43):
And this is of all of the problems to me,
This is not the one you want hung on them
because you don't want people's health to be something that
you're responsible for quote unquote ruining. And it's going to
make great b roll for the twenty twenty six midterms,
that's for darn sure.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
If it doesn't get solved one way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
No, you're right and talking to you, Jim Kennedy Kennedy
Institute of Public Policy Research, And it is going to
This is something you know because smart's what the Democrats did.
Whether you like Democrats are not politics wise, trying to
make it for three years and they said no, So
they go all right, now it's yours. Okay, So and
no matter how they flip it, people go, yeah, we

(01:34:19):
get it. We're not stupid. We know they were the
ones who pushed this through. We know they're the ones
that this thing's a hot mess because they their dream
of this thing becoming the great fixture of a lot
of things wrong with healthcare. It didn't happen. But you're
the wanting charge and you've told us for years you
have a plan, and the plan that I think they

(01:34:40):
have is are you ready for this? Don't get sick?

Speaker 14 (01:34:43):
Well that's a great plan, but unfortunately for a lot
of people, they don't get sick, they get ill. They
get chronic illnesses. And I don't necessarily mean diabetes. I
mean stuff like cancer. And there really isn't a way
as far as I know, for some mini cancers to
avoid them. Sure, you can catch them early and reduce
you know, they reduce the costs and increase the likelihood
of survival. But there's certain cancers that are just hereditary

(01:35:04):
and you're going to get them because you've got bad genes.
Blame mommy and daddy for that. But outside of that,
you may very well wind up with a cancer. Regardless
of how healthy you are, how will you eat, you
don't smoke, don't drink, you know, run whatever. But there
are some things that are either environmental or genetically based
that you're going to get sick. You know, some person is,
and more than some people, a lot of them are.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
And that's not something you can do.

Speaker 14 (01:35:27):
And I know you're partially joking when you're saying that,
because it is kind of silly for them to, you know,
actually push that as a policy. I would I'd be
cringing if they actually do kind of try to push
that as the official policy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
That's where's in the health savings account idea? But either way,
like I.

Speaker 14 (01:35:41):
Said, by by getting them on the record on the vote,
which I know what they were doing. I know they
weren't thinking that they were going to get a pass.
And why while Thune let this happen is kind of
bad management by him, is that you've basically now created
the ad for every Democrat running against a sitting Republican
in Congress to say so and so voted against healthcare extensions,

(01:36:01):
and you'll have the date, and you'll have the you know,
and you'll have the bill number that they voted against running.

Speaker 8 (01:36:06):
In the ad.

Speaker 14 (01:36:07):
And you've just created that ad for every sitting House
member in the every city Republican house member for the
twenty twenty six elections. Which is why they need to
get this fixed. This is going to cost them more
in the twenty six elections than anywhere else. So they
don't fix us, which is why you just got to
bite the bullet and extend them for a year or
hopefully be able to put the other a solution between
now and then that they have twelve months between now

(01:36:28):
and then to basically figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Talking to Jim Kennedy, Kennedy inst the public policy research
between that AD and the AD that will be running
everywhere gym, which is I give the economy and how
I've done in the economy an A plus plus plus plus. Look,
I want Trump to succeed, I want all my presidents
to succeed. But I'm not going to lie and say
it's an A plus plus plus plus plus because it's

(01:36:51):
not not not.

Speaker 14 (01:36:52):
No, it is probably not an A plus economy for
the majority of Americans. It is not a D economy
for a majority of the Americans. Is a D economy
for some Americans. But there's always going to be the
economy unfortunately for some Americans. But for the most part.
You know, the affordability thing is then you've mentioned this before.
You can't look at it as and just you know,
it's a hoax. It's not a real thing. It's a

(01:37:13):
democratic talking point. There are real people that are feeling
real problems in the wallet for various things, whether it
be health care costs that they're going up, whether you
know a little bit if you've got a corporate plan
or more if you've got one of the Obamacare plans,
and the price of gasoline in some areas, and the
price of food in a lot of areas, and they
aren't necessarily related to anything that Trump is done. Now

(01:37:34):
some of them are, some of them are terrif related.
But the price of beef has gone up just because
of cow shortage, because a lot of people stop farming
cows because of global warming threats, and and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
And and then you had a massive drought, yes, which
was huge, And.

Speaker 14 (01:37:48):
The cow problem relates to milk prices, dairy prices, a
little bit of an esoteric but chocolate's been up over
the last year because of drought and other and other
economic variables in West After So that's been something that's
clearly out of the control.

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
Now.

Speaker 14 (01:38:02):
Yeah, sure are some of them for stuff that that's
brought in overseas. Not a lot of the food is,
but some is are to the tariffs. And whenever the
Supreme Court rules on that, that'll get sorted out one
way or another.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Either the tariffs will stay or the tariffs won't stay.

Speaker 14 (01:38:16):
But I mean, for the month of September, the administration
claims that they had the lowest trade deficit since twenty twenty.
It's down to seventy billion dollars and including they had
strong trade with China. Now, I know we weren't sending
them soybeans in September that we usually do or October
or November because of the trade war and the tariffs.

(01:38:37):
So for the farmers, I did believed he introduced a
farm subsidy bill earlier in the week to basically help
bail out the farmers. You know, remember the famous Bill Clinton,
I feel your pain. He's basically doing just the opposite
of that. He's not feeling their pain. And for the
one thing he did have, he did seem to be
able to have that empathy for people and then I'm

(01:38:58):
here to fix your problems. And this take on it
that he's given recently really doesn't make it look like
he really has their concerns at his you know, at
the forefront of his policies, and that basically, you know,
I don't care about you, and you know I've got
enough money and I'm not being affected, so you shouldn't
be affected either. So you know, he's like you said earlier,
I think one of your shows, he's out of touch

(01:39:19):
a little bit with it. He needs and someone needs
to train him out. I don't know who it is,
but some of the administration needs to about saying this
is bad messaging. We can't just ignore the people when
they say that there's a problem, or at least provide
them with some sort of data and things to back
up when you're saying that it's an eight plus plus
plus plus plus plus, I will pick out the right
number of pluses their economy, which, as we've said, is not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Talking to Jim Kennedy Kennedy Institute of Public Policy Research.
There doesn't seem to be anybody realistically that is around
him or that has the cohone's enough right because he's
kind of new to to a lot of people that
are willing to speak out to go to him and say, look,
you're going to have to message in a different way.

Speaker 5 (01:39:59):
Yeah, I'm looking confused because I thought that Susie Wilds
was was doing a decent job of keeping him in
check and keeping his messaging and that you know that's
nine months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Well she did say that this next year, you know,
whether he likes it or not, he's going to be
he We're putting him on the ballot and he's going
to be out there. I think she recognizes that. You know,
you and I both know this. With him, you could
say that Jim. But the reality is is when he
gets out there on the own on his microphone and
he goes off script, then that didn't always entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:40:29):
Yeah, And and that's the thing about him that makes
them different is politicians for the most part, will you know,
if you can show them the polling data, they will basically,
you know, listen to their chiefs of staffs and their
political experts. He's a CEO, he's not a necessarily a politician.
So basically he said to my company, I do what
I want. I'm the chief executive, and if I don't

(01:40:49):
want to listen to you, I don't have to listen
to you. And in fact, I can fire you if
I don't want to listen to you. And I don't
think that is because I think he knows that she
does keep him on. You know, that does keep him
somewhat railed in because none of the chief of staff
really we're able to rail him in previously when the
first in the first administration. And I think that's why
he chose her for the second administration, because deep down

(01:41:10):
he knew that he did run rough shot over them,
and he needs somebody that he can respect and not
run rough shot over the man whose opinion when it
really comes down to something tough that he will listen to.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
But it's nine months in and I'm not really sure
where her abilities to do that they are.

Speaker 14 (01:41:23):
We'll see in twenty twenty six, because definitely he will
be on the ballot, whether she wants to put him
on the ballot or not. The Democrats are definitely putting
him on the ballot, and they're going to make everything
about Donald J.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
Trump because he is their number one foe. He is
the biggest boogeyman to them.

Speaker 14 (01:41:39):
And everything's going to be about him, regardless if it's
going to be the sixth six congressional district in Indiana
or wherever it is. They're going to make it about him,
and he's going to have to be out there answering
for it or they're going to lose a lot of
seats in Congress.

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
Next fall, unfortunately, is not a laughing matter.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
No what do he last questionnaire and Jim Kennedy kennedyans
to pog policy research. They're expecting I wouldn't be surprised
what next week' said last week. If we get a
couple more announcements of some people retiring, and I have
a feeling when they come back after they're again another
break that they we see upwards of twenty thirty plus retiring.

(01:42:18):
I think some of them see, Okay, this isn't going
to go the way we want. What do you think
you think they're going to lose the House but keep
the Senate.

Speaker 14 (01:42:25):
I'm pretty sure they're gonna keep the Senate based upon
the way the based upon who's what seats are up
in the Senate, because remember it's one third, it's not
one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Every every time there's only thirty three ish seats that
are up.

Speaker 14 (01:42:38):
The House is a lot. But the problem with the House, though,
is I mean the advantage, sorry, not the problem. The
advantage of the House is there are so many districts
that are absolutely almost in a sense unlosable for both
parties way that the seats have been created these days.
So the thing is only takes four or five right
now because of the razor within margin. So yeah, they
could lose it. The thing is chatted, it's ten months away,

(01:43:00):
it's almost eleven months away, and so much can change
between now and then. That could make Trump look like
a winner, and it could make them look like a
horrible loser, and there's just too much it can go on.
Right now, I would say it's to me, it's a
toss up if they're going to lose the House or not.
Maybe sixty forty they will because there are just a
few seats I've got to flip, and you generally lose

(01:43:20):
seats in midterms, you know, for the party in power,
for the party there's won the presidency. That's just tradition
and based upon history, he should lose five to ten seats,
which would mean they would lose the House. And that's
going to be a problem because his agenda will come
to a complete and utter halt, even even though they
do have the Senate sale, because all there will be

(01:43:41):
is hearing after hearing for Trump impeachment, because that's all
they're going to do for the next two years, from
twenty seven on to twenty eight, is to try to
impeach Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
That's all they will do if the Democrats get the House.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Man, it's going to be interesting. Jim Kennedy Kennedy Institute
of Public Policy Research. Go check out his subs kipper
kippr And of course at Ruddy Jim on the Old
X Brother good talking to you. We'll do it again
next week.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
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I'm done with going along to get along.

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Yeah, yeah yeah, but I'm looking over there. It looks
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(01:49:33):
breath and remember the reason for this season. You guys,
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