Trump Offers Illegal Immigrants $1,000 to 'Self-Deport'

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chat Benson Show show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now we're at the point where we're going to give
you dollars to leave. That's the beauty of America. We're
going to pay you to leave our country. You want
to go home, we'll send you home with a thousand bucks.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
What that's your party?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Give?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Tell them what they want.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
They are now offering undocumented immigrants one thousand dollars and
a plane ticket to self deport and they say that
this won't just jumpstart deportations, but it will also save money.
The administration says that the average cost to arrest, detain,
and remove an undocumented immigrant is more than seventeen thousand dollars.
And they say one person has already taken them up

(00:53):
on their offer, booking a flight from Chicago to Honduras.
And they say they've seen some additional interest already.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I got one person to do it so far, it's
early days. But then I saw the numbers. Right, it's
like seventeen grand and you're offering me a flight and
a thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why don't we bargain here?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'll take thirty five hundred, and you can even put
me a coach if I'm a dual citizen. And I
want to go back and visit. Like let's say you're
from Let's say you're born and raised here, but you're
a dual citizen.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Fon Duras.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
He's like, I want to go home see my grandma.
Maybe I'll get them to pay for it, and then
when I get there, I'll be like, thank you for
my money.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And then what about my American passport? Oh geez, Chad.
Now you give people.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Ideas they're not going to get the amount of people
that they want out of this country. And that should
pits us all off because the president before us, who
for the last eighteen months of his predicin, the Presidentancy

(02:01):
was not there was a hot, steaming mess who made
Bernie of Weekend at Bernie's look like he was Robin
Williams and Jim Carrey on Coke. I know what somebody's
gonna say, Chad, you shouldn't say that about Ron Williams. Well,

(02:22):
he did have an issue, and you see where I'm
going with this, though Bernie was way more with it
and he was dead. But the difference between Trump and
the others is Trump's bad, He's evil. He's only deporting

(02:42):
people because he's a racist, and he's a Nazi, you know,
the usual stuff, and Democrats you lost this election. A
big part of it was to the fact that, well,
you suck at immigration and enforcing the border, and now

(03:03):
Trump's got to figure out how to get people out
of here. But when it was Obama, nobody cared. Now
that it's Trump, everybody's like, that guy's a hero that
you're deporting. That guy's a swell guy. But they're not
going to get the amount of people they want to

(03:23):
get out of this country.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's not gonna happen. It isn't.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And it's simple. It's just numbers. You know, we talked
last week what was the big thing? What was like
the big story last week in pop culture? Could one
hundred dudes beat a gorilla?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yes? Because of numbers. It's the same thing here.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
The amount of officers you have for ice, the amount
of money you have to devote to ice, pales in
comparison to the amount of land area you have to
cover with the amount of people you have and the
amount of people that are here illegally.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
But we've talked about this since the election.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
All of us have, like you're they talked about importing
millions and millions of people they're not going to be
able to do that.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
First of all, one of the reasons.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
President Obama was able to do it is because there
were a lot of illegal immigrants down by the border,
and so he could move them across.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
With Joe Biden, you had five.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
Million illegal immigrants come in very quickly. They were also
able when they finally awakened to the fact to that.
I mean, the border's kind of quiet right now. They're
not going to get you know, millions of illegal immigrants deported.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
They're just not.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
So.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
They've gone from during the campaign promising a bloody mass
deportation and I'll.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Saying, we'll give you a thousand bucks. Yeah, I mean
the borders, which by the way.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Economically makes the most sense.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It does, and they promise a bloody mass deport What
did you get that morning?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Where where did you get that?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where in God's name g you know what Trump promised
He's going to hit everybody with sticks on the way out,
shoot them all on the knee. I mean, what what
are you talking about? You were so full of crap. Continue,
the board has.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
Been quiet even during the final months of the Biden administration,
after they did start cracking down because for a long time.
By their own emission, they were slow to act there
and it has even gotten quieter since Donald Trump took office,
in part because of their they didn't sort of install
a culture of fears. Immigrants didn't want to try to
try to risk it there. They're not going to hit
their numbers, not only because there's just simply aren't the
immigrants that they can support in a logistical.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Fashion, but it's too expensive.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
We talked about this during the transition, but what they
thought they were going to do, the plans they were unveiling,
it just wasn't going to happen. We also remember remember
the thoughts of like migrant camps being built across you know,
near major cities across the country.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
None of that has occurred.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
We had a few high profile ice raids in that
first week or two.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
That was about it. There was an attempt of shocking off.

Speaker 8 (05:58):
That was the first place we've been talking to about
like a great like yesterday. The El Salvadore Prison is
the next play in terms of trying to create this
idea and not to belittle the with the plights of
the people who are actually there, but to create this idea.
There's this widespread deportation effort. They simply haven't been able
to do it. Now they're turning to this cash payment.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're gonna try everything, and it's just it's not going
to work because of the size, the amount of area
that they have to cover, the amount of people that
are here, and we can go on and on about
all of.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
The stuff, but the.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Reality is, you just don't have the man power. Excuse me, Chad,
I do believe you met person power. Okay, you just
don't have the person power and you don't have the money.
And it is frustrating because when I think about that,
we should all be pissed because the last guy allowed
people to come here.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Willie ef and Nilly, I don't know if you should
say that. I know, right, I don't even know where
we got that. We'll look that up in a second.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And I mean to the tune of I bought ten, twelve,
fourteen million, God only knows. We're not even counting godaways.
You opened the border, you allowed millions of people to
come in. And I like how they said, well, the
reason they were able to deport people last time easier
under Obama, and then it's because they were all close
to the border, and so Greg Abbott's like, well they're

(07:29):
not going to be because everybody else, you know, we
can't afford this anymore.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
We can't.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So we're gonna send them mount to everybody else who
wants them, because they're just oh yeah, they're great, and
we'll take them all because we're gonna take twice and
say whoa. And what ended up happening. Then everybody started bitching,
wining in a moment. Well now they're spread out everywhere,
and so this is going to be an issue. And Democrats,
you caused this. I saw a hilarious article in seven

(07:58):
four today saying, no matter how much the Democrats continue
to hammer trumpet his low poll numbers, they whistle by
the graveyard because their numbers are way worse. They would
kill to have Trump like numbers and they don't, and

(08:19):
they don't. And the mess with immigration lies with them, period.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Peer re ed. Meanwhile, are they going to open up Alcatraz?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
No? Stop saying that the fact that Scott lonely Scott
on CNN is like I think it's a good idea.
All of you stop saying it's a good idea. It's
not a good idea. You're not going to be able
to house all the people. You think, oh, this is
gonna be great. The amount of money it would take

(08:56):
to As I was explaining to people yesterday, the amount
of money, because people were like.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
This is a great idea. Yeah, this is gonna be
a greadit. No, no, no, no, no no. Do you care
about spending money?

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well do you want to spend money? Well, you know,
I mean we want to make sure we we save, right,
that's the big goal. This is gonna The amount of
money to get Alcatraz up and running is billions.

Speaker 9 (09:25):
This is gonna be potentially something that the Bureau Prison
is gonna look at, and for the Bureau Prisons that
has been cast strapped for so long, understaffed for so long.
In a recent Inspector General report said that they needed
two billion dollars worth of repairs just in existing facilities alone.
They're gonna need a lot of money and a lot
of resources to get this done.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
No, this is easy, It'll be great. And then you
see everybody there.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
Even my man Scott Jennings, lonely, Scott, I think it's
a pretty good idea.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Stop it.

Speaker 11 (09:55):
This is the era of doge, The idea of reopening
a prison that's been closed for many, many decades because
it just doesn't make sense to house people there.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Why. I don't know. He said he was going to
study it.

Speaker 12 (10:06):
I mean, we have a prison overcrowding problem you've been
fussing about recently, him sending American criminals overseas to their prisons.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Don't we need more prisons in.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
The United States? Why Alcatraz?

Speaker 11 (10:18):
It costs three times as much as to put prisoners
there with them. Alcatraz closed after twenty nine years of
operation because the institution was too expensive to continue operating.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
What would it cost to build a new one?

Speaker 12 (10:28):
How many millions?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't know, what I know we need more prisons.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Just to give you guys a snapshot of what Alcatraz
can do. Okay, as far as holding prisoners maximum three
hundred and thirty six from thirty four to sixty three,
the average daily population was about two sixty to two
seventy five, with the highest ever being three oh two.
And it was designed that way to hold the worst

(10:53):
of the worst of the worst. So do I think
this is a good idea? No, and stop encouraging it.
But you know, it's got everybody talking about it, So
there you go. Problem solved. They're not talking about the economy.
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the kids, Trump was right, which pisses a lot of
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Speaker 3 (12:53):
A new book.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Points it all out, talk about that bunch of other things,
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all gets underway tomorrow, Hope in time.

Speaker 13 (13:16):
It's the daily dance of the Cardinals and the journalists.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
But the countdown is on Eminence. Hello, how is today's meeting?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Hello?

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Eminence?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
How is today's meeting?

Speaker 6 (13:27):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 14 (13:27):
The Cardinals will move into the Santa Malta residence and
slowly out of the world's gays.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
On Wednesday, they will take their oath of secrecy and
conclave will begin.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Ooh, the oath of secrecy.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
And it's interesting why they do this the way they
do with the secrecy. They they're sweeping every couple hours
pretty much every room inside the where the assisting chapel is,
where any of them are going to be staying, basically
anywhere inside of their They're sweeping for bugs.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And the reason is they don't want to know outside influence.

Speaker 15 (14:01):
It became a way of protecting the papacy and the
electors from interference from secular governments. You know, kings, emperors,
they all wanted to influence who would be elected, and
so they thought that if they locked them away and
kept everything secret so nobody knew how each person was voting,

(14:22):
that that would make the church, the cardinal electors more independent. Today,
I think it's to keep the press so bad.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Which is absolutely true, because the press is the worst.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So there are one hundred and thirty six cardinal electors,
but there's two hundred and forty plus cardinals, but you
have to be under eighty to vote. So that narrows
down to one hundred and thirty six. So if you're
over eighty and you're a non elector, so you can go.
You can attend, but you don't get a vote. So

(14:55):
that's the way this works. Now, when all is said
and done, they finally come up with a pope that
they all can agree on.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Let's get it right, guys, because last time some issues
with the smoke.

Speaker 15 (15:08):
Two conclaves ago the month Sigior didn't follow the directions
of the technicians and the smoke came out gray and
everybody was confused. So at the last conclave they added
that the largest bell in Saint Peter's will be rung
to announce that the election has taken place. So as
soon as you see that big bell begin to swing,

(15:32):
you know that we have a pope.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 15 (15:51):
And he will soon be announced.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Because last time, remember how gray some of it was,
And they're like, do you guys have a pope, and like, eh,
maybe we asked him what did he say? Maybe, uh,
yesterday I got a usual hateful email. I get a
lot of those I don't care that, but talking about

(16:16):
the fact that I, in their words, poked fun at
the Catholics.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
And the Pope and stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
And I'm like, no, but I'm not going to pretend
that this is some sort of you know, you guys
out there are defending Trump saying, oh, it's no big deal.
But when you bring up anything that happened with the church,
in particular with the scandal, everybody flips out about it.

(16:52):
So one person's like, I demand you apologize, and I'm all, no,
I'm not going to apologize.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm not going to apologize because I didn't say anything
that was untoured, not a word. And there is a
lot of issues out there that the church still has
to deal with, a lot of if you will come
to Jesus moments that still have to happen. So no,
I won't and don't defend Trump and his AI pictures

(17:23):
like I don't know how it got there. And on
the other hand, when you bring up the scandal of
the sexual nature.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
You freak out. If you've missed any show grand the podcast,
Chad Benson.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Joe.

Speaker 16 (17:39):
Son, Chad Benson, Joe.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
The Chad Benson Show, COVID Man, did it do a
number on our lives?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
What about our kids' lives?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Do you remember when Trump came out and said, we
can't do this, can't close everything down, We can't do
any of this. And man, we can't let this thing,
especially for the kids. This cure be worse than disease.
You remember that he got mocked for it.

Speaker 17 (18:23):
We have to open our country. You know, I've said
it often. The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And of course he was mocked mercilessly for that. Oh
my god, Hell, Darry wants to kill the kids and
the abuse was that real?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
New book out out of an abundance of caution.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, David Swig talking about his new book.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
He was on with News Nation today.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And kind of setting the record straight, you know, with
facts and data.

Speaker 18 (18:53):
As the pandemic wore on, evidence began to mount that
school closures and masking kids and separating desks by six
feet wasn't lessening infection or mortality rates compared to European countries,
for example, that quickly reopen school doors. Nevertheless, in some areas,
schools stayed closed for nearly a year and a half,

(19:13):
and according to a new book, we are now seeing
the very real effects of that on children in their
both learning and their mental health. In the book An
Abundance of Caution, author David Swig also argues that the
decisions made to keep schools closed were based less on
actual evidence and more on contrived benchmarks and political tribalism.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
It's a damning assessment and damning.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
The political tribalism in the book is insane. It is
I mean, it is all the things left. I want
you to listen to this that you accuse the right
of being, which is anti science, right, partisan hacks, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
All of the things that you accused them of. You
were in Spain.

Speaker 18 (20:06):
What we all remember where we were March twenty twenty,
when the globe planet Earth it felt like shut down.
Schools shut down, and two months later, in May of
twenty twenty, schools in Europe reopened. Nobody did that in
the United States.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Why the difference, That's right.

Speaker 19 (20:28):
The end of April beginning of May twenty two, countries
in Europe began reopening their schools.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Millions of children.

Speaker 19 (20:35):
This wasn't a tiny schoolhouse in Tibet in the mountains
somewhere with twelve kids, millions of kids. And this was
ignored or dismissed by our public health authorities and largely
by the legacy media as somehow bizarrely irrelevant. And that
set us on our course where we were basically divorced
from what's known as evidence based medicine or evidence based

(20:57):
public health.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, we were divorced from real.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And you we're going to talk about education next hour
in the Department of Education. And I said when it
happened and the battle went on to not reopen schools,
that the damage was going to be huge and that
parents wouldn't forget.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
And they haven't.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That's why you're seeing a school choice pick up steam.
More kids are being homeschooled. And whenever there's a a hey,
we're thinking about doing this, and the you know, you've
got the administrators and the unions and everybody out there
screaming and yelling, it falls on deaf ears because the
parents knew what was going on. Everybody did, and they

(21:45):
felt like, our kids are pawn in this game and
it all has to do with you. Hate Trump.

Speaker 18 (21:52):
Okay, so weeks go by, months go by, children in
Europe aren't dying in mass Why didn't we then look
and say, oh, held on, we can send our kids
back to school in America.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
These are really good questions.

Speaker 19 (22:06):
I spend four hundred and fifty pages trying to explain
how is it that something so manifest, something so harmful
and ridiculous when you had evidence, existing, empirical evidence in
front of us. Unfortunately a large part of it has
to do with tribalism in our countries.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Politics.

Speaker 19 (22:22):
Politics is a large part because of the public health
establishment tends to lean in one direction politically, and also
our legacy media shares that same political direction. Anything that
Trump said was basically radioactive.

Speaker 18 (22:38):
And we should just say too, like, you're not some
right wing, crazy, crazy guy, You're nots.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
This topic a politically.

Speaker 19 (22:45):
I've written for the New York Times, the Thank You York.
I am not a right wing ideologue by any stretch. Okay,
so it's hard for me to report and hard for
me to take in.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Why is that simple?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because the guy believes in progressive ideas, but he also
looks at facts and data, which most people can't do.
If it goes against their beliefs, and he said, hey,
my team on the left.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Is ignoring everything.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Because Donald Trump, and they don't care about anything other
than if he says it's green, we say it's orange.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
If he says it's up, we say it's down.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
If he says the data in facts are showing that
this isn't transmitting from kids to adults really at all,
and it has zero effect for the most part on children.
They would say it's killing millions because of kids. That's
why they can't go back to school.

Speaker 18 (23:58):
Okay, so here's the thing. The American Academy of Pediatrics
came out with the recommendation saying we think schools should open.
A few days later, President Trump posts on social media,
reopen the schools with as you put it, many exclamation marks.
And what does the American Academy of Pediatrics then do.

Speaker 19 (24:19):
The Academy reversed its guidance immediately after Trump's tweets.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Gone was this idea?

Speaker 19 (24:24):
They initially very aggressively said kids need to get in school.
They said, don't worry about six feet of distancing. If
you can't do it, three feet is fine. Just get
ements of school.

Speaker 18 (24:33):
They reversed themselves just because Trump said open the school.

Speaker 19 (24:36):
I mean, we can't prove that that's what happened, but
people can look at the timeline.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
There was nothing that changed.

Speaker 19 (24:42):
Epidemiologically and that span of time for them to change
the rules. It happened immediately after Trump's tweet. And I
have lots of other examples beyond the AAP that showed
that there was a deep, deep type of tribalism and
group think amongst these powerful institutions in our country, where
we had this kind of manufactured idea of a consensus

(25:03):
that didn't really exist in reality.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, it was about Trump, to feed him at all costs.
He is all that is evil, and so we must
do everything in our power to fight against anything he says.
Because he only cares about the business and this, that
and the other doesn't care. It became a game of

(25:26):
what can we do today to make the guy in
the White House angry and weaken him. We should all
be pissed. I'm extra pissed because I have little adopted
brothers who took a backward step in their education because

(25:47):
both of them have IEPs special needs, and the struggle
for those two years in California was tremendous.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
My kids.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Not being able to go to school for a while
was an issue, but not as bad because we were
in Arizona as other places, all because of tribal politics.
Think about that. So whenever you hear why don't they
believe us? They don't believe science, they don't take us seriously.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
You did this to yourselves.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
How do you expect to win back people's trust when
every time something like this happens? Guess what you get
proven out as being shysters and then you cry wolf.
The damage is more than just done. Three two, three, five,
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Speaker 3 (28:20):
Trial of the Century.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Maybe because there's no other trials going on right out
that are the Trial of the century. How about Trial
of the quarter century. Maybe that's the best way to
describe this.

Speaker 21 (28:32):
Jerry's selection is underway and the most anticipated trial of
the year, the racketeering, conspiracy, and sex trafficking trial of
Sean Colmes. Federal prosecutors who are trying to prove Colms
used his power, wealth and fame to force women into
drug fueled orgies known as freak offs and then threaten
them into silence.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Man, he's gonna have some he's views.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think we can all agree with that, and it's
very interesting on what he's been charged with and what
he faces and why he didn't take a plea deal.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And we'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Now, if you're gonna be a juror, you have to
fill out some paperwork, as you know, because let's just
say some of the stuff is definitely NC seventeen.

Speaker 21 (29:25):
Jurors filling out this written questionnaire saying there may be
graphic and sexually explicit evidence in connection with the case,
and asking if there's anything that would make it.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Difficult to be fair and impartial.

Speaker 21 (29:35):
Many perspective tours also saying they recognize the names of
other celebrities that might come up at trial. The defense
aiming to convince the jury the government is trying to
police consensual sex by a swinger who they say invited
others into his bedroom.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And that's going to be their big defense is they're
going to try to say everything was fine, it was consensual.
Just because I'm a freak in the sheets doesn't mean
I'm criminal. But now you have to parse through the jurors.
And I was talking to a couple of people yesterday
and I said, you want to find as many people

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as you can, right that's going to fit what you're
looking for as a defense attorney or as a prosecutor.
And the goal would be to find as many people
who don't know a lot about this case. And at
the same time, I'm not sure I want a human
being that doesn't know anything about this.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Anywhere near.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
A case unless they just woke up for a coma
and they said, hey, I've been always hoping and praying
that if I was to wake up that I would have.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
A chance to be a juror on a big case.

Speaker 22 (30:47):
Oh, it's such an incredible cross section of lives. There's
one woman who remains on the jury pool who said
her ex husband serve time for attempted murder. And there's
one guy who was pulled over by the police once
and said he does not trust law enforcement because he
believes officers have their own agenda. He was excused from

(31:09):
the jury polls. So this is how it's going until
they can get forty five jurors to question more in depth.
That will probably begin starting sometime tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And we'll see. This is Barrett Berger. She is a
former prosecutor. Smart lady talking about the fact that while
if you go and look at what he's been charged with,
it's a lot of rico, and rico's one of those
things where you throw a wide net out and then
you try to put a whole bunch of stuff in it.

Speaker 23 (31:40):
But he's been charged with encompasses a lot of the
bad stuff that you discussed, for example, the racketeering conspiracy.
One of the beauties of the racketeering Statute is that
it allows prosecutors to bring in a whole pattern of
small predicate acts. So, for example, if there's something that
happened that may not on its own be a federal

(32:00):
crime that federal prosecutors wouldn't be able to charge standing alone,
or if there's something that happened that maybe outside the
statutal limitations with this Rico statute, they can bring all
of these individual acts in charge them as part of
this pattern conspiracy that was all done on behalf of
the enterprise. So I actually think this Rico conspiracy is
a really strong charge.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think it's very strong.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It is very strong because there's so much in this
and their defense is, hey, it's just a bunch of
you know, it's a bunch of consensual sex that you
guys find wacky, and we partied and it was all consensual,
and you know, sorry if you don't think that, you know,

(32:45):
my lifestyle is cool. But none of the other stuff
that's supposed to be bad has been charged in this case.
It's just all kind of a whole bunch of stuff,
and most of it's civil. So if you go and
see so far what's been charged as far as criminal,
it's not all the bad stuff that is awful. That

(33:10):
stuff's been civil. The bad stuff is just wrapped up
in rico. But it's about the jury period case clothes.
Get the right jury and you get a win. That's
why jury selection is the most important thing when it
comes to cases.

Speaker 13 (33:24):
Which is why jury selection, which is going on right now,
is so key. Prosecutors need to make sure that they
vet these jurors to be able to say that they
can set aside their bias and they can find him
guilty if the facts meet the law.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Can they do that?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
What if somebody's a big fan just wants to be
on it. I don't know. I don't Maybe they just.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Want to be on it.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
You know they're looking around, well, you know, I just
kind of want to be on this thing because looks cool.
Can you get a conviction? Absolutely? I think they will.
He was offered something. But this is my take on
this situation. With him alone, he's not going down alone.
I think his goal is to crush everybody's soul. I

(34:12):
think his goal now is he's not going to sync
with this ship by himself, and he is going to
expose and destroy as many people as possible and lay
blame at other people's feet.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's my take. But if you get the right jury,
you never know.

Speaker 13 (34:29):
You got to get The ideal scenario is you get
as close to twelve people, all loving freak offs and lube,
and you take one step back because obviously they're not
going to reveal that, but they've got to be open
minded to dismiss some of the very liberal, outrageous and
what you would say is offensive conduct as well. That's
not a crime. Where's the crime? And when you narrow

(34:52):
it down, you get people who get cross examined vigorously
and they can't be believed. And there's where you get
your reasonable doubt, if at all.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
It's gonna be interesting, and it's not being televised, so
we're gonna have to look for those pictures that they
drawn out and then hear what the people inside who
rush out have to say.

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Speaker 2 (36:54):
The Education Department, the Federal Education Department. You know, last
hour we talked about COVID. Can I tell everybody parents
don't forget. They don't And I remember working on boy
geidos sher best friend telling him during the chaos of COVID,

(37:17):
parents won't forget, they won't forget what is going on,
and they haven't in the Federal Education Department that if
you go back remember you know, divorce and everything, they
weren't going to get rid of it. There were things that, oh,
this might be okay, Well then it one ended up happening.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
COVID came, It became a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Trump was out, People were pissed though about their kids' education.
You saw an explosion in charter school's choice, homeschool Trump
two point zero, and now what people are like, Yeah,
let's uh, let's get rid of that thing the Department
of Education and the Department of Education is again it's bizarre,

(38:07):
Like right now, we're like, we're asking kids, Hey, guys,
remember when you took out all those loans. You need
to pay them back now. Yeah, but the last guy
told us that we didn't have to. Yeah, well he's gone, okay,
and that wasn't constitutional.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You got to pay back your loans.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
We're sorry that people lied to you and told you
that you would get everything you dreamed of if you
went to college, But you gotta pay it back.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Student debt has got to go.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Student activists say we're special. We shouldn't have to pay
our debts. There you go to hell because I'm not
going to pay it.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
No fewer than four out of ten borrowers are in
repayment now.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
The Trump administration says if you don't pay.

Speaker 18 (38:56):
That could mean wage garnishment or money withheld from tax
refunds and Social Security benefits.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
About time. College students don't deserve special handouts, and neither
do rich colleges. Look at this library Colleges got away
with raising tuition much faster than inflation because taxpayers paid
the bill.

Speaker 18 (39:17):
The more the federal government was involved in loans and
grants for students, the more tuition increased.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Which is crazy because when you're going to go and
guarantee those loans, you might as well just increase the
hell out of them. And that's what they did. And
then make college, well, thirteenth grade. That's also a SPA.
Just make it the coolest thing ever, so you get
to lure people in the first.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Thing you're struck by is our jungle lobby banyan trees.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Colleges chase this taxpayer money by offering ridiculous perks.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
In house day SPA.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Students will come to us and say, this is what
sealed the deal. He used to be reading, writing and arithmetic,
and well we're now the fourth are recreation.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
It's about time I'm our government stopped funding luxuries like that.
And there's another benefit one students know they actually have
to pay back their debts. More, we'll think twice about studying, say, surfing,
or other ridiculous courses today's colleges offer, like Lady Gaga
and fame Zombies, taco literacy, even how to watch TV.

(40:22):
Courses like these rarely help anyone get an actual job.
Shouldn't you communicate this to kids before you take their money?
This YouTube channel mocks what colleges do. If we can
sell you a master's degree for another seventy grand gave
me my money back.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Uh yeah, by the way, the taco thing, I'm a
big fan of tacos.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
But you don't need deva course of taco literacy. You don't.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
What are we doing? And here's another way. I've been
saying this for years, and I stand and buy this.
If you want to go to school and get a
degree an interpretive dance with a minor in gender studies
of basket weavers in the fifth century, that should be

(41:17):
three hundred thousand dollars a unit. If you want to
go to school and do something that's truly going to
benefit society, engineering, right, AI studies, whatever, something that people
are going to use that's going to benefit society as
a whole, that should be priced at a much lower rate.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Than the others of which I mentioned. But it's not
just college. And this is where I talked about earlier parents.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Remember, it's good that the education Department's finally starting to reform.
But wait, why is there a federal education department? Anywhere
education's funded locally, the federal department is largely useless.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
The decline and the quality of public education.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Some Republicans have tried to close the department for years.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would like to dissolve the ten billion dollar National
Department of Education.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Reagan failed, And during Trump's first term, when he made
Betsy de Voss Education Secretary, I asked her he would
abolish the department.

Speaker 19 (42:23):
No, I think there are important roles to play to
ensure students are not discriminated against.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
But now the mood in America has shifted. Recently she wrote,
shut down the department. It need not exist.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Zero problems with that. A vast majority of the money
comes from where local, which is great. The politics, though,
almost one hundred percent of it comes from the federal
side of it, and that is frustrating. And when I said, parents,

(43:02):
do not forget go back to COVID, go back to
the nightmare.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
That was.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
The way that the education system and the politics of
COVID and education where they went against anything Trump said.
He said, open the schools, they double locked him down
and we saw that. We talked about it last hour.

(43:30):
We'll probably talk about again next hour. But I said,
they're not going to forget this. Parents will not forget,
and they haven't. And that's why this time around there
isn't the pushback that you would normally see from the masses.
Pre COVID. Oh, you can't get rid of the Department

(43:52):
of Education. Now they're like, yeah, I don't care, get
rid of them. They're stupid, right, they're dumb. They didn't
do anything. They hurt our kids. They played politics, and
our kids can't even read, for God's sakes, because they're
pushing all kinds of wacky crap to them.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
We're going to end education. Coming out of Washington, DC,
teachers' unions are furious.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
It will destroy families, communities, and students.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
After all, the media say the department.

Speaker 24 (44:19):
Helps twenty six million children who live in poverty, seven
point five million students with disabilities.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
It's not doing any of those things. Coridangelis studies education policy.

Speaker 25 (44:30):
The department was created with the express purpose to close
achievement gaps and to improve student outcomes, and the outcomes
aren't getting any better. They're getting worse.

Speaker 18 (44:38):
Students across the country are struggling to read, falling behind
in math.

Speaker 25 (44:43):
If you have bossed the Department of Education, we can
have more student improvement over time because you'll give more control,
more power to the individual states to figure out what
works best.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
But unions say kids need the department.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
No, no, they don't. Kids, you don't need unions. I'm
here to I'll tell you that right now. You need
no unions. And the Department didn't do anything for you.
You say the politics came out of Washington. The education
should come out of your state. Let's get rid of
the politics of Washington and just allow the education to

(45:17):
do its thing.

Speaker 25 (45:26):
They're not your kids, Becky, they are the parents' children.
Becky's just worried about her gravy train coming to an end.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Becky Pringle does make almost half a million dollars a year.
The head of the other big union makes more.

Speaker 25 (45:39):
People like Randy Weingarten, who make over five hundred thousand
dollars a year to trap your kids and her failure
factories that we call public schools.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Unions like the federal Department because it's one stop shopping
for all their demands. And Democrats who get almost all
the union's political donations. Fight to protect that bureaucracy is
a code rid shout it from the rooftops moment. Trump
can't just do this. Congress created the department. Only Congress

(46:07):
can eliminate it.

Speaker 25 (46:09):
It does require a sixty vote majority.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 25 (46:13):
I don't have a lot of confidence that seven Democrats
are gonna come along. But Trump is taking a different
approach to give a death by a thousand cuts.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Death by a thousand cuts.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I like that because that's what you're gonna have to do,
because Congress doesn't do its job at all.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
We've talked about that over and over again.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Congress is cheering all the executive orders because they look
back and go, we didn't have to make any decisions.
This guy's just gonna keep doing stuff. Takes this way
off the hook, and then it'll be lawsuits and it'll
be all these kind of things. It'll be a long
time before it gets to us and us making any
kind of actual vote on record where we could be
in trouble.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Oh man, this is good. Keep doing it, sir, keep
doing it, doing it a great job.

Speaker 26 (46:58):
Nastallyoffs that are how happening at the Department of Education.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Trump fired a thousand people. They had to be doing something.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
No, they weren't.

Speaker 25 (47:06):
They were pushing paper. They were taking in six figure salaries.
And that's why things haven't really changed all that much
since half the department's gone.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
Maybe those Education Department workers will find something more useful
to do and funds will be freed to give children
more choice.

Speaker 25 (47:21):
It's time to set the children free, and we should
free families from the clutches of the teachers unions once
and for all.

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the battle about to get worse? Talk about that real

(49:37):
I D stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Chad Benson Show, Chad Benson.

Speaker 27 (49:51):
Israel approving plans to seize control with the entire Gaza Strip,
calling up tens of thousands of reservists, a massive military mobilizer.
A senior Israeli official saying, if no hostygen ceize far
deals reached by the time President Trump finishes his trip
to the Middle East next week, a new offensive will begin.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Uh oh, I would say, it's about to get ugly
over there, but it's already ugly. Let's getting ugly here. Currently,
at the University of Washington, there is a march. There
is a takeover of certain places at the University of
Washington outside agitators Antifa et cetera, et cetera taking over

(50:32):
because they want the school to what divest and get
rid of anything Israel, move back, move, That's pretty much
all they do. So what's going to happen, Well, it's
about to get ugly over there again.

Speaker 14 (50:48):
It seems reasonable to me to think that this is
part of a negotiating ploy would they do it? Could
they do it? Well, yes, will they do it? I
don't think that's so. You know, Israel has occupied Gaza before.
It was not a happy period and it ended ignominiously
with an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. It will be very

(51:11):
difficult to say the least.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Look, I think we can all sit back here and
say no matter what happens in the short term, the
long term is going to be uneasy all the time
because there's always going to be people that want to
make sure that this conflict goes on it benefits them,

(51:35):
whether it's Iran, whether it's Israel, depending on the time
and what's going on.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Oh Jed, how could you say that, Well, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Being honest, or whether it is some other group that
is out there, like the likes of the Hooties, like
the likes of Hamas and everybody else, because it's good
business for their business. They don't care about the people.
The people are a sacrifice for their business. President Trump.

Speaker 17 (52:08):
People are starving and we're going to help them get
some food. A lot of people are making it very
very bad.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
What do you if you look?

Speaker 17 (52:16):
Hamas is making it impossible because they're taking everything this
brought in. But we're going to help the people of Gaza.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
If you're missing any show grad the podcast, we appreciate
that right here in the Chad Benson Show. And there's
some questions to be asked about the amount of money
we're spending over there, and is there a solution that's
real on the horizon or is it just all noise.
It's not gonna be permanent in the sense that there
will never ever be fighting again, because we always know
there will be. But there's got to be something better

(52:46):
than this because people are starving over there, and yes,
Hamas has a role to play in it, so does
Israel and so do we. And I know what people
will say, so you're anti Israel. No, I'm pro Israel,
but I'm also peace and there needs to be a
real sit down, come to whatever God you worship moment

(53:11):
with everybody. And I think the issue is at some
point in time, when do we talk to the other
quote unquote leaders in the region and say, hey, guys,
let's find some people that aren't aligned with Hamas, that
are residents, that are leaders, and let's start elevating them

(53:32):
to the point where they're actually the go to rather
than trying to negotiate with people that are truly the worst.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
And that's a.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Tough thing to do because we live in a time
where the noise is loud.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Israel's not backing down.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
This has kind of been on the back burner comparatively Russia.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
And then of course tariffs and all the things going
on here.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
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Speaker 2 (54:44):
It is teacher appreciation. We on top of that, we've
been talking about education all day. Here's the substitute teacher
who's kind of surprised that kids are how should we
say this not the sharpest right now.

Speaker 28 (55:00):
Wh y'all was lining to me on this app when
y'all said that these kids didn't know nothing. These kids
don't know shit like nothing, not a They don't know
basic maths like a dition, subtraction, division, fractions of multiplication,
they don't know none of that, and it is really sad.
They can tell you what a gay person is, was bisexual?

Speaker 4 (55:20):
What the diddy do? What kind of.

Speaker 28 (55:22):
Gun it is?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Who sang this song, the lyrics to that, and they
know all of that.

Speaker 28 (55:28):
They know what studs and dykes is, but they don't
know what basic maths.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
No, No, they got the struggle bus on that one.
So it's sayed how far kids have fallen, like say,
blaming on a lot of different things, but education seems
to be one of the least concerns in schools nowadays.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Parents, What are y'all doing? Y'all feeling y'all? Kids? It
is out on these teachers. They're all that they're doing.

Speaker 28 (56:02):
There is talk, play around, horse around, y'all got word
to do, like I'm not understanding and they don't and
they don't even understand why they don't understand.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
And that's more confusing, Like what.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
That's substitute? Very happy with what's going on? What I
read yesterday one in five adults can't read. There's always
something like that every year, and I'm like, no way,
how can that be Even the dumbest kids in school,
kids who got f's Maybe me sometimes we can all

(56:38):
read most of it was about effort and show it up.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I just don't think you get that, Chad. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
No, I'm just saying point out the insanity of some
of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Now the top kids can't do anything. Oh oh that
is weird.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, weird indeed. But in today's world, I guess it's
just normal. You're ready to have some fun. It's time
for little Trump. Derangement syndrome.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Is a con artisan of the eulogy.

Speaker 23 (57:12):
And I love every day, wake up every day and
I'm pray that he'd died.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Absolutely, that's an evil thought to say.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Do you want to win based on winning the argument?

Speaker 29 (57:23):
I want him to be gone out of our hair,
in our country.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
He is destroying the entire world.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Wow, so you can think about that. I want him
to be gone dead, all of that. I mean, just
think about that for a second. Well, it was not
a fan of Biden, never once that I wish an
e any ill harm. Yet you have people that are deranged,

(57:51):
you have people that are nutty. Trust me, I've heard
from the right too, So set a gass down. But
the left is much more vocal about their disdain for Trump.
And because in theory he's a meani. People just turn
a blind eye as if this is a normal way
to act. And some man lost his life over it,

(58:18):
some man nobody even talks about losses we talked about.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
He was brought on stage, is fair?

Speaker 9 (58:23):
His jacket was brought on stage at the at the RNC,
you know, And so what did you talk about.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
It wasn't a person that shot him.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
It was a gun that did the damage.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
So Trump and may he died tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Was the gun that shot him? You guys didn't know that?
Oh yeah, let me tell you what happens. So guns
can think and do whatever they want.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I don't know if you guys know this. They can't.
They can just do whatever they want. By the way,
his name was Corey Camfetori who was killed at the
Trump rally, not some man. If you're gonna just go
out there and say something least kind of half ass,
get it right. I mean, the google's in front of you, lady.
But when you listen to that, you're thinking to yourself, Wow,

(59:09):
you're that bitter? Of course you are.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
What do you bet they're single? Speaking of that?

Speaker 26 (59:14):
I want a divorce. I don't want to live with
mega people anymore. I don't think that this is a
sustainable model for society. We are never ever, ever going
to see about how society should operate period. I do
not know what the solution to this is, but what

(59:35):
I do know is that Donald Trump is destroying the
structures that glued this country together faster, more violently, and
better than I think anyone could have ever imagined.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Wow, she wants a divorce from MAGA. Not quite sure
what that means. Does that mean you want to move?
I'm just I'm trying to You're the one thing you
want a divorce from magat So we're trying to put
it all together here.

Speaker 26 (01:00:07):
So I think the likelihood of the United States continuing
as one country is rapidly diminishing right before our eyes.
And maybe in the end this will do us a favor.
Maybe it'll even do the world a favor, because I
think the reality is we can't live together.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
We just can't can't live together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Actually we can, and we're going to continue to do
so because I don't know what you think is going
to happen. AM unfamiliar with the thought process that you
currently have. This is another one of those we're going
to have a civil war thing. How many times do
I have to tell you? Do you have an app
that's about a civil war?

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
No, so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Are you actually going to get up and do something? Well,
I mean, I got other things going on. I hoping
other people could do it for me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Mm mmm, yeah, it's that's not happening.

Speaker 26 (01:00:59):
You want to live that way, go for it. If
you want to live in a completely reversed reality where
no one knows how to read and no one takes
any medicine and you all just kill each other over
and over again with unmedicated pandemics, that's fine. I don't
care what you do at all. I just don't want

(01:01:21):
to be around it anymore. Genuinely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
What I love about that is we're getting rid of
the Department of Education because nobody can read so more
government didn't seem to get it done, and the oh,
you guys just don't take medicine for the pandemic, only
to find out that you guys all on the left
win against not all, but a vast majority the science

(01:01:47):
when it came to kids and a lot of things
because of Donald Trump. The minute Trump got involved out
with the science and in came the politics and you
want a divorce, Well we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Give you that divorce. Congratulations, We wish you the best.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Meanwhile, Immigration Nation, who's ready for a little self deportation?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And Immigration Nation.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
They're now offering undocumented immigrants one thousand dollars and a
plane ticket to self deport And they say that this,
you know, won't just jump start deportations, but that it
will also save money. The administration says that the average
cost to arrest, detain, and remove an undocumented immigrant is
more than seventeen thousand dollars. And they say one person
has already taken them up on their offer, booking a

(01:02:36):
flight from Chicago to Honturas. And they say they've seen
some additional interest already.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And I'm glad they're doing that before the real ID
kicks in, because we're gonna have to give a real id,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Uh oh chat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I don't know how many people are going to take
them up on this. I can't imagine it's going to
be a ton. I mean, if you've traversed through hell,
you've saved up your life savings and handed it to
somebody who at any given time was going to run
away with your money and or abduct your children and
or do horrible things to you. Then you got through

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The thought of a grand and a free trip home
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Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Yeah, the chatms and shall.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Less than twenty four hours away from the real ID
nightmare that shall begin.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Are you ready? Let's be real.

Speaker 30 (01:05:13):
Frustration and confusion at the DMV is basically a cliche,
but this week there is one primary culprit, and that's
real ID. I'm here in Camden, New Jersey at the
Motor Vehicle Commission. It's basically New Jersey's version of the DMV,
and folks I've been speaking to all morning told me
the same thing, that they are here to try.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
And figure out their real ID.

Speaker 30 (01:05:33):
These people describe a packed house inside of this building
behind me. Some have been lucky and we're able to
figure out their real ID and get their hands on
their application form.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
But others were not so lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Others are not so lucky, and it has been a
and you know what, I continue to say this too.
It's also crapshoot man. You roll up on some of
these people who work at the DMV, and if you're lucky,
you might just get that one that's like, I really
don't care. And then you get that one that's gonna

(01:06:06):
make sure that you have every single thing right. They're
looking at your birth certificate. You're fifty two years old.
You've had that thing in your pocket, You've had it
inside of a book, it's been inside boxes, it has
traveled with you through two marriages.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
And four homes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
And they're not quite sure if that little raised emblem
is right, so they may make you go back and
get yourself a new one. Then you roll up and
the next one in the line that you got lucky
with when you pulled your ticket and it says now
serving number eight and you roll over there and that
person doesn't give a rats ass if you handed them
a bubblegum wrapper, they're gonna give you your ID.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:06:53):
I spoke to one man who said that he missed
it just because he was missing one form of identification.
I spoke to another man who assumed that his ID
was a really D because he just got to renewed
a couple weeks ago, only to learn that it was not,
in fact a real lied D.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
So all were going home without any luck. And that's
what it is, man, I'm telling you guys, it is luck.
It is luck. Are you lucky? Did you get lucky with?
The person in line?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Buddy I work with produces my local show, had to
get himself another birth certificate because even though his was old,
the rays on the you know the stamp there, we're
gonna let it fly. And you're thinking to yourself, what,
And then I talked to people. My buddy Dave goes

(01:07:44):
to the Coolidge one in Arizona. Since there's like two
people in the DMV, that's it. He rolls in, doesn't
have any other form of ID outside of his birth
certificate and they look at his license say yeah, you're fine.
They gi him a real I D. They got there,
and like days, it's the luck of the draw sometimes.

Speaker 30 (01:08:06):
So what should you keep in mind as we approach
this May seventh deadline to get your real ID. Well,
first off, you'll know if your ID is a real
idea or not because it'll usually have some sort of
symbol like a black star or a gold star.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
The other thing to note is that you should really
check your.

Speaker 30 (01:08:19):
State by state regulations and rules about how to go
through this process because it will likely differ. And finally,
as this deadline goes into effect, keep in mind people
without real ideas at the airport may be subject to
additional screening if they do not have it as they
try to board their plane.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Or just get a passport.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You can expedite a passport for a few extra bucks
and that gets you. I think it's two weeks, otherwise
I think it's four. And that passport is everything you need.
I mean, that's everything you need right there. That is
your Once you have your passport, that is your and kaboodle.

(01:09:02):
When it comes to all things you go into work
you're like, you know, you apply for a job and
they say you got the job.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Do you have all your stuff? Enter your passport? There
you go, oh yeah, yeah. Interesting. Indeed, h are you
scared to fly? Because there's some issues.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Nationwide when it comes to you know, the left is
blaming Trump right like, that's the thing that makes me laugh.
You have Chuck Schumer out there going, oh, this is
all Doge's fault.

Speaker 29 (01:09:36):
Doge hacked a chainsaw and fired many people at the
FAA who have not been replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Did they fire air traffic controllers or paper pushers?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Tell me more? What else where else they failed?

Speaker 29 (01:09:52):
We have atc folks giving warnings. We have a nineteen
ninety technology being used in twenty twenty five, and we
have safety issues, plain and simple.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
And is that Doughjess fault.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
People have been saying that for years. But this is
the way modern politics is.

Speaker 29 (01:10:10):
The technology is old and must be updated. It was
one of the things that one of the things that
happened at Newark is a copper wire burnt. Why are
we using copper wire in twenty twenty five? Have they
heard of fiber now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
If you haven't heard what happened in Newark. It took
one second for things to go sideways with a wire
to shut everything down, and then it just became a
giant nightmare. And one of the things we've talked about
with flying is so many things now are direct flights.

(01:10:47):
So what happens is once one flight is missed or delayed,
then what happens you start to see, whether it's weather
or whatever, the domino effect. Now you multiply that by
a whole airpower to folks, and it's a nightmare.

Speaker 24 (01:11:05):
For the eighth day in a row, delays and cancelations,
mounting the average delay on some arrivals nearly four hours.
The FAA has already worn that runway construction, and the
shortage of controllers would disrupt the number of planes scheduled
to fly in or out United Airlines, cutting at least
thirty five round trip flights per day, saying without more

(01:11:26):
air traffic controllers, they have no choice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
And that's Newerk, so not good, and we need to
modernize it in a lot of ways because as the
technology grows inside of the aeroplanes, the technology on the
ground in many places has stayed stagnant, and in some
cases we're talking decades three, two, three, five, three, eight,

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COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
New book is out about the damage done in particular
to the kids, and it is a fascinating book really
explaining how bad it's been, not just for the kids,
but how politics and the people who couldn't stand Donald
Trump played a massive role in what went on in

(01:12:52):
our schools and how our kids suffer for it in
a major way. Talk about that immigration of bunch of
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Speaker 20 (01:13:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
All right, people, get ready for this one. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Trump was right about COVID and kids and school no.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Yes, not just kind of right.

Speaker 17 (01:13:52):
So do you guys remember this, this abuse, tremendous abuse.
You know, I've said it often, The cure cannot be
worse the problem itself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
That was Donald Trump at a debate talking about opening
up the country, talking about the schools can't be worse
than the disease to cure, and he was mocked.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Mercilessly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Come to find out, it's a new book out called
out of an abundance of goushion that maybe he was
one hundred percent right. Well, we didn't know at the time.
Isn't it funny that you didn't know at the time.
Always with Trump, as much as he drives me crazy,

(01:14:35):
you guys know this, We always go back to, well,
we didn't know at the time. Well, I think he
knew a lot more, and I think a vast majority
of it, As this book points out, it was just
about tribalism and the disdain for one individual and then
everybody else had to sacrifice, in particularly the children I'm

(01:14:58):
talking about here in schools.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Because well, Trump.

Speaker 18 (01:15:04):
As the pandemic wore on, evidence began to mount that
school closures and masking kids and separating desks by six
feet wasn't lessening infection or mortality rates compared to European countries,
for example, that quickly reopened school doors. Nevertheless, in some areas,
schools stayed closed for nearly a year and a half,

(01:15:25):
and according to a new book, we are now seeing
the very real effects of that on children in their
both learning and their mental health. In the book An
Abundance of Caution, author david's Wig also argues that the
decisions made to keep schools closed were based less on
actual evidence and more on contrived benchmarks and political tribalism.

(01:15:46):
It's a damning assessment and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Damning assessment, Davis writes, your book isn't just a damning assessment,
it is a straight out you people played with kids
like I will never forgive the bs I saw with
not just my kids, but my little brothers who are adopted.

(01:16:12):
They've got IEPs, their special needs, and the hell they
went through for two years because Donald Trump said this,
so we're gonna do that? And what did I tell everybody? Parents?

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Do not forget?

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
They don't you want to know why school choice is up, up, up,
up and away? Do you want to know why homeschooling
and charter schooling is up. You played with the kids.
You use them as a pawn in your game of crap.

(01:16:53):
I understand a little bit of caution at first, but
that went away very early.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Yet in some places two years.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Two years on stuff you made up at times.

Speaker 18 (01:17:11):
We all remember where we were. March twenty twenty when
the globe planet.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
Earth the shut down.

Speaker 18 (01:17:19):
Schools shut down, and two months later, in May of
twenty twenty, schools in Europe reopened. Nobody did that in
the United States. Why the difference?

Speaker 19 (01:17:31):
That's right, the end of April beginning of May twenty two,
countries in Europe began reopening their schools.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Millions of children.

Speaker 19 (01:17:39):
This wasn't a tiny schoolhouse in Tibet in the mountains
somewhere with twelve kids.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Millions of kids.

Speaker 19 (01:17:45):
And this was ignored or dismissed by our public health
authorities and largely by the legacy media as somehow bizarrely irrelevant.
And that set us on our course where we were
basically divorced from what's known as evidence based medicine, are
evidence based public health.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It became tribal common sense and reality went out the window.
Parents haven't forgotten and they're not going to forget That's
why when we talked about last Hour getting rid of
the Department of Education, we're five years ago. People freak
out about it. Parents are like, yea, I don't give
her at to ask. Go ahead, blow it up. We
don't care. They're a hot mess. They're politics. They screw

(01:18:26):
with our kids. No, no, no, okay.

Speaker 18 (01:18:29):
So weeks go by, months go by. Children in Europe
aren't dying in mass Why didn't we then look and say, oh,
hold on, we can send our our kids back to
school in America.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
These are really good questions.

Speaker 19 (01:18:43):
I spend four hundred and fifty pages trying to explain
how is it that something so manifest, something so harmful
and ridiculous when you had evidence, existing empirical evidence, in
front of us. Unfortunately, a large part of it has
to do with tribalism in our country.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
Politics.

Speaker 19 (01:19:00):
Politics is a large part because of the public health
establishment tends to lean in one direction politically, and also
our legacy media shares that same political direction. Anything that
Trump said was basically radioactive.

Speaker 18 (01:19:15):
And we should just say too, like, you're not some
right wing crazy crazy guy, You're not.

Speaker 19 (01:19:21):
Coach this topic a politically. I've written for The New
York Times, the.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Thank You York.

Speaker 19 (01:19:27):
I am not a right wing ideologue by any stretch. Okay,
so it's hard for me to report and hard for
me to take in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Dude is saying, I don't want it to be true.
But the facts, the data points to this. There's no
nuance or let me tell you what happened here, there's
none of that.

Speaker 10 (01:19:49):
It's just like, look, if Trump said it was good
to go back to school, they would say, if your
kids go back to school, they will problem not come home.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Based on what we don't know, based on the fact
that he said it's good to go, like it didn't
matter at all. They could be sitting there going you know,
this is all a lot. Yeah, we know, but still
it's Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
That's how bad it was.

Speaker 18 (01:20:18):
Okay, So here's the thing. The American Academy of Pediatrics
came out with the recommendation saying we think school should open.
A few days later, President Trump posts on social media
reopened the schools with as you put it, many exclamation marks.
And what does the American Academy of Pediatrics then do.

Speaker 19 (01:20:39):
The Academy reversed its guidance immediately after Trump's tweets.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Gone was this idea.

Speaker 19 (01:20:44):
They initially very aggressively said kids need to get in school.
They said, don't worry about six feet of distancing. If
you can't do it, three feet is fine. Just get
him into school.

Speaker 18 (01:20:53):
They reversed themselves just because Trump said open the school.

Speaker 19 (01:20:56):
I mean, we can't prove that that's what happened, but
people can look at the timeline.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
There was nothing that changed.

Speaker 19 (01:21:02):
Epidemiologically in that span of time for them to change
the rules. It happened immediately after Trump's tweet. And I
have lots of other examples beyond the AAP that showed
that there was a deep, deep type of tribalism and
group think amongst these powerful institutions in our country, where
we had this kind of manufactured idea of a consensus

(01:21:24):
that didn't really exist in reality.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Because they didn't care.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
It wasn't about solving a problem of COVID. It was
about the orange guy is really bad. It's about the
orange guy is really mean, and we must resist, even
if it means we sacrifice the kid's education.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
It's what we got to do. It is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
And that if him saying it's it's time for kids
to go back, it's got to be doubly bad because
he doesn't listen to science, or he looked around and goes, hey,
you know, none of these kids are dying. Oh jeah.
They were dying everywhere. It was non stop, all over
the globe.

Speaker 19 (01:22:17):
It's important for me to say. People may be thinking, well, yeah,
but they did it to save lives. It's very important
for people to understand this saved zero lives. The evidence
was clear before the pandemic. Lots of the academic literature
explained why this would be the case, and we certainly
saw that within the evidence throughout the pandemic as well.
Closing schools did not help anyone. It only harmed kids.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Man listen to the science, unless, of course, the science
leans in theory to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
It shouldn't have writer left at science. But once science.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Became political in an election year, and quite frankly for
the last umpteen years now, once politics overrode everything and said, hey,
science is a great place to to do things. Science
is a great place to to to to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Do and force certain things that changed everything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
And this was the worst of the worst in this
situation because of what it did to our kids.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
And I will never forget the sob sis.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
When I look at my little brother, in particular Elijah,
who I love, and he was in a good spot
and he slipped so far backwards and it was a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
And my little one, who could kind of go to
school then she couldn't ensure. You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You know they talk about this, especially the young kids
who have struggled reading, you know, reading and stuff, because
they're making wear masks.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
It was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
It was asinine, it was stupid, it was political, and
it has cost us, and most importantly, it cost the kids.
They're not getting back there, prom they're not getting back
their third grade, they're not getting back there, any of
that stuff. It ain't coming back. Somebody said to me

(01:24:28):
the other day, which I thought was phenomenal. He said,
I saw this somewhere chat I think it's great. I
don't know how much time I have, but I know
how much money I have. Meaning you're not getting back time.
Or you can know how much money you have, you
can know how much of something you have, even as
a kid, but you know how much time you have.

(01:24:50):
You're not getting it back. That's the most precious. And
we rob them of that, and by.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
We, I mean the media.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
The establishment of the life left insanity robbed so many people,
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Let's find out what's trending on the old webs on
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Start over in the magical world of Twitter, where the
Angry Live. The MET Gala number one trending thing. No
Way Way Alcatraz. They should have the MET Gala there
next year. I know it's not the Met, but it
would be kind of neat. Celtics Cinco de Mayo, Rihanna,

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Aaron Gordon, Zendia, Rosa Parks. And the reason she's trending
is because Lisa from Black Pink, which is a K
pop group, wore essentially lingerie to the Met and the
lingerie was Rosa Parks and people are freaking out about that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
She didn't treads herself. People, she didn't know.

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Google number one training thing Teacher Appreciation Day. The MET
Gala had over a million one million searches, up one
thousand percent. Rihanna, Diana Ross, look at us, Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
See where we're going this all the Met.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Gala asap Rocky Sabrina Carpenter, Jennifer Aniston. So man crashed
his car through the front gate of her bellel Or
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Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
And finally over the magical world of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
YEAHO Met Gala, Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, she was at
the met Mike Pence, Scolds Trump, Shiloh Hendricks and I'm
going to talk about that coming up a little bit.
Also trending, among other things, the Magical world of Yahoo.

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So the Shiloh Lady was not at the met gala.
And if you don't who she is, so she's a
mom from Rochester, Minnesota who called a little kid the
N word. And now the battle has been gun. It's crazy.

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It's like, well look at this over here. Look what
they did to Austin Metcalf and his family. So we're
going to now take this girl's cause up. And she's
being canceled. We're gonna raise money for her. It's insane.
Is this is this where we are? That's a sad
place to be and she is raised well not her,

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but people have raised a ton of money for her.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
And I mean a ton of money.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
She's heading towards a million dollars, which is insane.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Tries to crazy. How do we get here? This is
why we can't have nice things?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
And this is the battle of online bs that goes on,
which gives me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Nothing but crappy attitude at times. I'll tell you that
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More on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
The Saint that is, he's not in the running to
be pope.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Abrego Garcia, he's not, especially after the point where he
wanted to apparently do horrific things to his wife. Have
you noticed that the Democrats are like, well, I'm going
to just move out here a little bit from this guy.
It's really about everybody now, okay. But they're trying to
figure all the things out because last week TBI that's

(01:31:57):
the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, and the the POPO that's
the police five, oh whatever you want to call him,
released a video where Abrego Garcia was pulled over and
they said, hey, this guy's trafficking folks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
But Friday there's a court hearing.

Speaker 32 (01:32:17):
Sources TELEBC News investigators recently met with an inmate in Alabama,
the owner of the SUV Kilmara Brego Garcia was driving
when he was pulled over in Tennessee in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
We've got a bunch of paper here, a nunci Juan Porci.

Speaker 32 (01:32:30):
Yes, well, buck to troopers let him go with a warning.
Their agency says the FBI made the decision not to
detain him. Word of the new Justice Department probe comes
as administration officials face a Friday deadline to give depositions.
With a federal judge ordering the government to facilitate a
Brego Garcia's release from a salvador In prison.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I don't know how they're going to do that because
the end of the day, he's a l Salvadorian. So
him being in his own country, could we put sure? Yeah,
it's not even pressure we can call up and go do
give him back. That's the pressure we need to give
to him. So I don't think this guy is a hero.

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And somebody text earlier and said he's here illegally. He
had two hearings. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Remember this is about due.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Process and listening to what the courts say, and the
courts in this case pre Trump said, yeah, he can
be deported. You just can't send him to El Salvador.
It's not about whether or not he could be deported
and should be deported. It's about where. And it was
pretty much anywhere but there, but lo and behold he

(01:33:50):
went there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Could we have sent him to Alcatraz? So funny when
I say that we could have, but why would we?

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
The people because I mentioned this earlier about Alcatraz. The
people that get excited about Alcatraz and the U I
think it's good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
It's not a good idea. It's too damn cost. It's
not cost effective. And I'm a cost effective kind of
cat and this is not cost effective.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
It's quite the opposite when it comes to the cost.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Okay, And I mean that. I know some people are
recite what we can do all kinds of things with it.
No we can't. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
No, to reopen Alcatraz. How will you use it? How
did you come up with the idea?

Speaker 17 (01:34:39):
I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker.
We're talking about we started with the movie making will end.
I mean it represents something very strong, very powerful in
terms of law and order.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Our country needs law and order.

Speaker 17 (01:34:51):
Alcatraz is I would say, the ultimate right Alcatraz sing
sing and Alcatraz to the movies, but it's right now
a music believe.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
It, and a lot of people go there.

Speaker 17 (01:35:02):
It housed the most violent criminals in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
It did at a time which what's very long. I
mean the reason was simple. I'm expensive.

Speaker 17 (01:35:12):
Nobody ever escaped to One person almost got there, but they,
as you know the story, they found his clothing rather
badly ripped up and it was a lot of shark bites,
a lot of a lot of problems. Nobody's ever escaped
from Alcatraz and just represented something strong having to do
with law and order. We need law and order in
this country. We'll see if we can bring it back

(01:35:34):
in large form. Add a lot, but I think it
represents something. It's got a lot of It's got a
lot of qualities that are interesting. And I think they
they make a point.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
They make a point, Well, what's the point point is?
I thought we were supposed to be saving money. I
love the goal of this whole thing with Doge was
to save money and be effective. Did you give you
guys a breakdown of the alcatraals. The amount of people
that they can put on Alcatraz is minimal.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
And what I mean minimal, I mean virtually nope. For
the amount of people we have.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
At its maximum three hundred and thirty six inmates, it
never once reached capacity. During its operation, which lasted twenty
nine years, average daily population was about two sixty two seventy,
highest recorded number being three hundred and two folks.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Now, the reason was intentional.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Alcatraz was built to house the inmates who were considered
particularly dangerous, disruptive, or escape prone. Each prisoner was signed
a single occupancy cell, so you get one cell and
one inmate in that cell, nine by five. It's about
strict control and isolation.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
But the cost.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
They closed it in six three because of the cost,
and to try to redo it today would be well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Whole hell of a lot, Lonely Scott, this is.

Speaker 11 (01:37:10):
The era of Doge, the idea of reopening a prison
that's been closed for many, many decades because it just
doesn't make sense to house people there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Why.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
I don't know. He said he was going to study it.

Speaker 12 (01:37:20):
I mean, we have a prison overcrowding problem you've been
fussing about recently, him sending American criminals overseas to their prisons.
Don't we need more prisons in the United States?

Speaker 11 (01:37:31):
Why Alcatraz It costs three times as much to put
prisoners there that them. Alcatraz closed after twenty nine years
of operation because the institution was too expensive to continue operating.

Speaker 6 (01:37:41):
What would it cost to build a new one?

Speaker 12 (01:37:42):
How many millions?

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
I don't know. I know we need more prisons, but
nobody's going to escape. Chad, You're right, nobody is going
to escape. So did anybody ever escape? How many people
tried to escape?

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Thirty six, by the way, thirty six a little over
one a year. The most famous nineteen sixty two Frank
Morris and brothers John and Clarence Anglin. So it was
June eleventh, sixty two. I love the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
I went out there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
It's by the way, if you've never been to Alcatraz
and you have a chance to go before they turned
it into a place that can house, you know, a
couple dozen people at a tune of a billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Go there. It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
So they dug through the ventilation grades and it was
awesome the way they did this. Now, again, these are
not good dudes, but there's a romanticizing of it when
you go out there. Because one of the other things
that's very interesting about it when you go out there
is many of the people who give the tours were
either guards and this has been a while so most
of them may not be around anymore, but they were

(01:38:42):
guards or they were inmates themselves, which is crazy. So
they dug through the grates like the ventilation. They built
a raft from rain coats and then they vanished. They
were presumed drowned. FBI closed the case in seventy nine.
They never found any of the bodies, and then, of

(01:39:04):
course escaped from Alcatraz Clinticewood.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
That's that movie forty six.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
A few other folks tried it that turned into a
violent uprising after two days, two correctional officers and three
in mates were killed. The dummy Head escape is super
famous when you go there, so Ralph Rowe and Theodore
Cole Row and Coal they slipped through a window during
a storm, disappeared, and they too were presumed dead. In total,

(01:39:36):
thirty six attempted escapes, twenty three or cot six were
shot and killed, two drowned, five including Morris and the
Anglin Trio, were never found, and to this day they
remained a mystery. So alas there you go, are their
bodies out there that are inside the belly of a

(01:39:57):
giant shark? Possible they just drowned and fade in another world?
Also possible. Is it possible that they did escape again?
Also possible, never found their bodies. That was the goal

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Popin' ain't easy. Are
you guys ready for it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
The white smoke, the black smoke, the bells, the stuff.
It's Pope in time. Oh yeah.

Speaker 33 (01:42:09):
Starting tomorrow, the center of the world is effectively going
to be focused on the Sistine Chapel in the right
corner over here. That is when the cardinals will enter
inside the Cistine Chapel, the Swiss Guard will seal it,
and then all onlookers will be ordered out. The first
vote will be taking place tomorrow, and then that chimney

(01:42:29):
that's standing a top of the Sistine Chapel, well, that's
where billions of people will be paying attention from across
the globe here to whether it's black smoke or white smoke.
White smoke is the moment that we know that a
two thirds majority has been reached, and then at some
point in the aftermath of that, the next pope will
walk out on that balcony that has the red curtains

(01:42:51):
on it, there to be presented to the world. It
is a historic process here Marquee, one that has played
out time and time again through out the centuries. People
are waiting for those traditions and history can be renewed
once again.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Here there you go. So Pope in time is here,
Pope in time is back.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Now for those of you guys don't know, not only
is popa not easy, picking a pope ain't easy. You
got the politicking, You've got the conclave, You've got the
battle that goes on behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
You got the guys smoking cigarettes, going chow chow chow.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
I all think they say chow, but the reality is
most of them aren't from Italy. But you don't know
in fact how many people will be voting on pop
and stuff. Well, right now, there is two hundred and
forty ish cardinals worldwide. Okay, so you got two hundred

(01:43:50):
and forty cardinals. One hundred and thirty six are eligible
to vote. So to be eligible, you have to be eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
That's the only you gotta be a cardinal one under eighty.
Non electors though, so if you're eighty plus you can
be there, you can attend, you know, you can do
all the stuff. It's like a champion's dinner at the Masters.
You get to do all the things, but you don't
get a vote. Okay, Now, there's said to be so

(01:44:22):
many people there. They're having to fix some of the
sleeping arrangements. Some of them may have to stay it
like a you know, Motel six or somewhere, Howard Johnson,
somebody leaving the light on for us. But they're gonna
lock it down. They've been sweeping for days. So they
go in and they sweep, and they go in and

(01:44:43):
they check.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
Is there anything here? Is there anything he? Is there
anything here?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Want to make sure it's here, Want to make sure
it's here? Is there anything here? Anything going on here?
How about now? How about now? They want to make
sure is there any kind of stuff that's going on?
It's anybody hidden here? Somebody put a bug over here?
Is there something happened over here? Somebody hid in the
closet trying to catch something that's going on. Now that
being said, the vote's gonna start. So last few days

(01:45:11):
they've all got together and after the funeral they all
started going all right, cool, beans talk about let's talk
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Who what, Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
And now they're going to get some serious business. But
there are rules to popen and pick and popes.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Yeah, there is.

Speaker 33 (01:45:27):
There are certain parameters that we know about at this point.
So tomorrow, when the conclave begins, there's going to be
one single vote. Then on Thursday, assuming that a two
thirds majority has not been reached, there will be four
votes that will continue on every day. But after three
days there's a break, one day off in which the
cardinals are expected to reflect, to pray and think about

(01:45:51):
what direction the future shall go.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
And then it gets interesting.

Speaker 33 (01:45:53):
After thirty three votes, that's when you have an effective runoff,
where two top candidates ultimately get put out onto the
pedestal and then decisions are made between those who candids there.
So that's how we anticipate these next couple of days
are going to go here.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Now I have been because a lot of people are betting,
because there's a lot of degenerates out there. I would
never do such a thing, but it doesn't mean I
won't talk a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
About some of that stuff. But one of the things
people ask, why is it so secret?

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
It's secret for a lot of reasons, not just the
security side of stuff, which is always interesting, but because
back in the day people wanted to influence picking of popes,
because arguably there were times when the pope may have
been the most powerful figure.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
In all of Europe.

Speaker 15 (01:46:45):
It became a way of protecting the papacy and the
electors from interference from secular governments, you know, kings, emperors,
They all wanted to influence who would be elected, and
so they thought that they locked them away and kept
everything secret, so nobody knew how each person was voting.

(01:47:06):
That that would make the church. The cardinal electure is
more independent today.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
I think it's to keep the press so back, which
is true. So I mean you gotta think about this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
So from the eleventh of the thirteenth century, and just
give you a snapshot here, Pope Gregory, Pope Innocent the third,
that's a cool name. Pope Thunder not there, but we're
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was close to the kind of power these cats had.
Pope Gregory took on Emperor Henry. Right, you had Pope
Innocent eleven ninety eight to twelve sixteen, good reign right there,
arguably the most powerful pope ever. This cat forced King
John of England to submit and declare England a pappal fift.

(01:48:03):
Think about that. So that's the reason for a lot
of this stuff. Now it's the digital age and they
want to make sure that nobody gets a sneak peek
at something. So just putting it all out there, we're
trying to give you guys snapshot of all this stuff
and why they do the things they do. And then
let's not forget the crusades. Pope could call and mobilize

(01:48:25):
massive military campaigns across Europe in the Middle East, poping kids.

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Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
She's us like an eh, as we all know, right,
I'm not really a fan of Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Shut up, but tomorrow is the day they get going.
What are the over under on days?

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
At take? I picked five.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
I think by the weekend we've got one. Some people
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